>atheist believe this

>>126107150
well done

you're still retarded though

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOPVVdg8noc

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>>126107150
>evolution is fake
>god is real

double score

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>>126107150
gaytheists btfo

tip harder faggots

>>126107150
That's literally a fact though

>>126107150
Except its actually true...

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>>126108118

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>>126107150
this is the first known bird

notice the tail

>>126108435
Not an argument, gentile.

>>126107150
Not an atheist but its not really a matter of belief at this point, the bone structure, number of bones, ect in just about any bird you find pretty much is a match morphologically to just about any theropod dinosaur you look at which alone demonstrates ancestry but more than that there are fossils of theropod dinosaurs with proto-feathers which are absent from other kinds of dinosaurs. Also the genes for things such a teeth are still present. Its pretty conclusive that birds evolved from dinosaurs (though technically are still considered dinosaurs taxonomically)

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>>126107150

>>126108607
As well as the long legs

>>126108607
Technically that isn't a bird, its a dinosaur with avian features, a transitional dead end

>>126108914
>not having a living dino chicken you can show off
>unethical
>implying it's going to feel self conscious or something
fucking retards

>>126109065
don't forget the claws on the "wing" tips

>>126109108
It's because it's a fucking fraud. I'm sure they tried to and all they got were mutilated and deformed chicken corpses and came up with "Muh ethics" when someone called them out on their bullshit.

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Excellent trigger bait, my lad. Fedoras are falling over themselves to tip in your thread.

>>126107150
WTF i love jesus now

>>126108118
>muh dinosaur bones
I feel bad for you

>>126109369
I like how they point to bacteria as proof of evolution too. Simple-minded drones.

>>126108844
>muh dino bones

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>Not giving a fuck about genes and evolution

Nigger whut?

>>126107150
This picture is cute :)

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>>126108914
>we made chickens into dinosaurs, but we can't show you, sorry goys!
>6 billion really died in the holocaust, but we can't show you the bodies since they're all ashes and candle wax now, sorry goys!

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>>126109369
And I feel bad for you christcucks

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>>126108914
>cucked.com
wew lad
Why does nobody shun these Reddit niggers anymore?

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According to "smart" people, those "inner fish" in the picture you posted evolved for no reason out of rocks which spent 7 billion years floating through a deadly radiation-soaked vacuum.

Here is the series of events which degenerate atheists want you to believe happened:

1) A giant explosion happened for no reason when a wave fluctuation happened and caused an imbalance between energy and negative energy (LOL) which spread countless trillions of tonnes of material over 13 billion light years in diameter.

2) All of this protomatter arbitrarily separated itself in to groups for no reason, all the light gasses formed stars and all the heavier elements formed planets and rocks.

3) After several billion years of being a deadly environment which is hostile to life and amino acids, some rocks evolved in to amino acids in this toxic environment.

4) Over a billion years those amino acids collected together and arranged themselves in to DNA for no reason.

5) This DNA was bacteria and this eventually evolved in to fish.

6) The fish decided that it was too easy swimming in water, so half of them decided to flop on to land and see if they survived.

7) Half of the ones that survived out of water, mated and bred with each other and grew legs and lungs.

8) Fast forward a billion years and fish evolved in to dinosaurs, and then dinosaurs evolved in to birds.

9) A few monkeys randomly got larger brains and discovered the art of making tools for the purpose of tribal warfare.

10) 200,000 years after this, le black science man and Bill Nye the Bachelor of Engineering Guy are making TV shows while dancing around like buffoons to teach people they are stupid animals who are alive for no reason and are a collection of biological cells governed by random electrical impulses in their brains, yet they somehow are superior to Christians and have better morality, even though they change their opinions every single year and would accept Islam when their life is threatened

>b-BAWK
*scratches dirt*

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>>126109538

>>126109451
I don't believe in evolution because certain primates are our brothers in a species sense, and I have a belief that certain primates other than humans have souls, but no other animal does. So basically, I don't believe we evolved from a type of chimp, I think we are just a very similar life form to a chimp.

>>126109265
it's definitely a fraud

http://www.nature.com/news/dino-chickens-reveal-how-the-beak-was-born-1.17507

http://www.livescience.com/50802-chicken-embryos-with-dinosaur-snouts-created.html

>>126107150
Kek

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>>126109733
>I have a belief that certain primates other than humans have souls

>>126107150
>im too retarded to see the similarities
DOTR cant come soon enough

>>126109538
Not even christian, nice ad hominem though.

>No fossils of modern birds exist from much of the time dinosaurs did
>No fossils of most modern animals exist from that time
>fossils exist

I don't even have to connect birds to dinosaurs, religion's already fucked from the above.

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>>126107150
http://www.conservapedia.com/Counterexamples_to_Relativity
>religious cucks believe realtivity is not real

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>>126109851
In Day of the Rope, atheism, larpaganism, and all others jewish subversions are annihilated. You niggers vastly overestimate your numbers.

>>126109846
Look at bononos, they have souls. Look at a dog, it doesn't. A chimp will recognize itself in a mirror. A dog will not. Animals are biological machines whereas primates are complex being capable of thought

>>126107150
You could replace the T rex with a dad of the 50s and the budgie with his cuck hipster son and it would be equally unbelievable but true.

>>126109871
Your ability to utilize logic only when it conveniences you is quite comedic. I am having sincere laughter now, thank you for this.

>>126110085
Bonobo I mean

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>>126109733
>Not believing in math
>Not believing in the Tesla code or Fibonacci code
>Not believing in evolution
>Not believing in anything but in god

NIGGA WHUT

>>126110110
>confused as to how I came to my conclusion
>act like you don't care and post a fedora-tier reply
Love it when muh science fags think they are smart.

>>126107150
Disproving atheism does not prove your religion

>>126110085
You don't even know what a soul is. You're one step above a fedora.

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my ancestors

>>126107150
You're right, OP. God magicked the birds into existence and dinosaurs aren't real, their bones were put there by Satan to trick us.

...fuck off.

>>126110217
>implying I believe in God
>implying I'm not Zoroastrian
>implying the Fibonacci sequence isn't the essence of the infinite way

>>126110263
>not holder of science degree
>claims to elucidate the failures of science
Another one, Daddy! Another one!

>>126110085
I guess gorillas have no souls and chimps do

>>126110310
Yes, I do. You being smug and trying to shoot me down doesn't change that

>>126110397
>implying I'm not a chemical engineer
AMA fedoraboy

>>126110417
Precisely

>>126107849
>plateaus are tree stumps

Lost it

>>126110478
No, lad. You have no concept. You are a literal child. Sentience is not sapience.

>>126110067
>frog doesn't believe in objective truth
it's no wonder le penis lost

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Yeah, how on earth could something soo different be related? Utterly ridiculous...

>>126108607
That's a dick

>>126110539
>implying chemistry illuminates evolutionary theory
>fedora
>fedora
Do you not have any other aspect of a filthy NEET to mock besides the fish in a barrel? Such low effort...

>>126110085
It's about intelligence and not your fucking soul bullshit.

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>>126110387
Neger I'm just gonna leave you there. May the flames devour the rest of your brain.

>>126110629
Sentience is the ability to think and understand the self. Chimps can look in a mirror and apply liostick. Infant chimps also have the same level of self recognition in a mirror as an infant human (not sure of the exact experiment, but you can look it up)
an ape is a being of soul with a purpose different than a human.

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>>126107849
whos retarded now gehboy

>>126110539
Did you get a lot of job offers out of college? I heard the market for the major was declining because a lot of the older guys aren't retiring as expected.

>>126109460
Yes actually.

>>126110085

My cat knew of her own reflection.

My cat had soul confirmed

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>>126107150
My ancestor was an amoeba

>>126110749
You said I don't have a science degree. I do. You just moved the goalposts to say I don't has a degree in evolutionary science.I
>if you don't go to a Jewish owned liberal university to get this specific degree you can't talk about this alleged fact of human origin

>>126110652
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson%E2%80%93Morley_experiment

>>126110794
You've already admitted to being a contrarian retard by saying you're Zoroastrian. No further conversation is necessary. Good day, lad.

>>126110821
No, the market is pretty trash, lots of work abroad though.

>>126110085
>animals don't think

Right...

>>126108019
Haha Jews BTFO by no hats rule.

>>126111002
>a creation science degree

>>126111050
>giving up
Awwwwwwwwwww babbys first assfucking

>>126111002
I am mocking the fact that you haven't presented a refutation of the evidence, just appeals to your authority. Once you revealed the source of your authority, which I ceded to you by not refuting the damn point, it was furthermore not relevant to the argument you were making. Give me something concrete to cede to you, stop making non-arguments.

>>126107150
OP is a dick-licking faggot who has never heard of Mary Schweitzer.

>>126109633
>This DNA was bacteria

(You)

>>126111184
Chemical engineering as previously stated.

>>126109633
1) The Big Bang wasn't an explosion, it was the expansion of the universe itself from a singularity. Since it was the beginning of time, speaking of causation is nonsensical as there was no moment preceding the effect. Such phenomena aren't just possible they are observable, vacuum energy for example is entirely random without cause, just effect.

The universe isn't 13 billion light years in diameter, its actually been estimated to be 90+ billion lightyears in any direction you could look from earth due to inflation accelerating rather than slowing down

2)There was no protomatter at the moment of the big bang, just energy. Matter could not exist until about 300,000 years after the big bang due to the universe being too hot for matter to form. Either way how it clumped together into the first stars wasn't random, it dictated by the fundamental forces of nature namely strong and weak nuclear forces, gravity (now that there was mass) and electromagnetism

3) Rocks didn't evolve into amino acids, organic compounds through chemistry formed into the first amino acids, chemistry is not random its largely dictated by the electromagnetic force

4)It didn't take billions of years, it likely only took a few hundred million since it happened at most 4 billion years ago on earth, again it wasn't for no reason it was a chemical process.

5-10)Every sentence is nonsensical

>>126110085
look her in the eye and tell me my dog has no soul

>>126107150

>He actually doesn't believe in evolution in 2k17

Christ cucks

>>126110679
The irony of using a creature which man has purposefully and dutifully manipulated isn't lost on me.

>>126111208
No appeals to my authority, only telling you what I am since you made false assumptions about it! You have presented no evidence. Dinosaur bones, which are known frauds and created by certain archaeologists as a claim to fame, is not evidence of evolution. Sorry.

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>>126111361
Good goyim.

>>126107150

take a biology course

>>126110387
the Fibonacci sequence was a way to count breeding pairs of rabbits you dingus.

>>126108914
>make dino-chickens
>no plans to hatch them
So you didn't make shit, then.

>>126111357
I could easily do that. Your dog was bred to be your slave. If it wasn't bred as such it would be just like any animal in the wild.

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>>126107849

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>>126107150
HAHAHA

>>126111259
So you're as qualified to speak about evolution as Bill Nye is on Gender. Good to know

>>126111492
It's in everything, moron. Stop stating cringe facts that have nothing to do with anything
>HA I know this, fuck you

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>>126107150
>t-rex
Ancestors are small theropods you dumbshit.
Only an idiot would believe t-rexs survived the k-t extinction event.

>>126111554
How qualified are you..? I'm not saying I have special qualifications. Can you not have a discussion about it? Pathetic

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Bought a hand-fed cockatiel a week back, only 2 weeks old, they really do look like little dinosaurs before their feather come in.

>>126111446
I have myself found dinosaur bones, as part of my capstone program for my geology BS. I'm not an advanced scientist or anything, I'm on my way to a career, but I have encountered in far removed rock beds evidence that stands in contrast to you.
Furthermore, there is plenty of room WITHIN evolution for God. Evolution as evidenced in the rock record is punctuated, occurring rapidly during periods of population bottlenecking. What explains this random, powerful transformation but God Almighty?

>>126111667
>so uhh
>there was uhh
>dinosaurs and uhh
>a meteor killed all of them
>but uhh
>birds evolved from them
>uh uh don't as how they could evolve if they were all wiped out and uhh
>bones and shiet

>>126111302
clever atheist boy

did you learn that from your wife's son? or your wife's boyfriend?

>>126111667
Ikr? What kind of fucking idiot thinks we survived that?

>>126108204
>>126108118
>>126109851
>>126111489
Large theropods did not survive the K-T event. Small theropods are ancestors of the birds. OP is using retarded, inaccurate pics.

>>126107150

That's funny

>>126107150
theists believe this too

just because God created the observable universe doesn't mean that He didn't use evolution. the book of Genesis is pretty obviously allegorical.

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>>126107150
Because it's fucking obvious. How are you so proud of being retarded that you feel the need to display it everywhere?

>>126108118
No, Modern birds evolved from bird-like therapods, most of which were pretty small. A T-rex is actually closer to crocodiles.

>>126111446
OH, and I did make false assumptions about you, that is correct and I take the blame for that. My mistake.

>>126107150
I laughed

>>126107150

>see flag

nevermind

I DONT UNDERSTAND EVOLUTION SO IT MUST BE FALSE! REEEEEE

>>126111795
At an archaeology site, where they place bones for you to find. Answer me this, if fucking dinosaur bones were always under the ground waiting to be found, why were none found until after a scientist created a theory of the dinosaurs? Fucking fairy tales mate

>>126111818
>we
Mammals survived. I'm talking about the ancestors of birds.
>>126111816
>what are fossils
Look at a them, faggot.

>>126111817
I'm not an atheist

yup

>>126112001
>implying anyone who disagrees with you is misinformed, because you are obvious the header of all truth
How can you browse pol and believe in this Jewish lie

>>126112001
>I DONT UNDERSTAND
top kek
Leftist arguments are so pre-2010.

>>126112059
>Mammals survived. I'm talking about the ancestors of birds.
Oh... Haha, y-yeah. Me t-too, human!

>>126112059
Look at what fossils? The admittedly fabricated models in the museums? Or the replica ones you buy at the gift shop? Hmmm

>>126111920

I mean, when you think of it, Dinosaurs to birds isn't a huge stretch.

>Meteor hits
>Dust gets thrown into atmosphere
>Food becomes scarce
>Dinos shrink in size as a result, can't sustain a huge body with little calories
>They may have already had feathers, but the cold would definitely help encourage that trait

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>>126112284
>t. delusional faggot

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>>126108019
Assuming evolution is a linear progression makes your ignorance obvious. How can you claim to disagree with an idea you are being lied to about?

>>126111816
Some smaller dinosaurs survived just like small mammals survived you fool. The meteor didn't wipe out all dinosaurs or life, if it did we wouldn't be here right now

>>126109633
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xuCn8ux2gbs

>>126107150
>believe athiest checkmate
this, believe!

>>126111537
>gravity isn't real
>woke

>>126112369
Dinos didn't shrink in size. The large ones that required a ridiculous amount of energy to survived died because there was no food, which happened to be almost all dinos except for smaller ones. Mammals filled the niche and became dominate over several million years. The smalls ones that were able to survive were mostly scavengers that couldn't compete with the larger dinos and pretty much remained as scavengers throughout the years.

>>126112369
That isn't how evolution works. I mean you can have rapid changes under extreme pressures sure but shrinking from the size of a Trex down even to the size of an emu in very few generations isn't really possible

>>126111817
>Brazil
>intelligent

>>126112004
No, I dug it out of a mountainside in Montana, which was a couple miles round. That would be a hell of a project to place that there.
They weren't always under the ground. The ground changes fairly rapidly geologically speaking. Once they get buried, they keep getting buried, until something major changes like an earthquake or a change in the motion of the plates. That brings them back up to the surface, where the rock around them wears away, because it was only stable where it was made miles below the surface.
And fossils have been known forever. The Chinese trading along the Silk Road sold dragon bones as alchemical medicine which were powdered dragon bone when samples were analyzed from modern sources.

>>126107150
Despite all the irony, the truth is birds literally ARE dinosaurs

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>>126110067
>believing in literal JEWISH PHYSICS
>not believing in the ether
>shiggydiggydoo

>>126112477
>doesn't understand gravity is a mathematical meme lie and the phenomena of things falling is literally just buoyancy and density

>>126109451
>"GOD CREATED EVERYTHING HOW COULD ALL THIS COME FROM NOTHING"
>God has always existed we cant comprehend things because god created us to not understand"

>>126107150
>See image
>Checks flag

I knew that it was going to be burgerstan.

>>126109733
We didn't evolve from chimps. We are distantly related to chimps. Our common ancestor is so dead that we don't know what they were. We're talking millions of years here.

>>126112654
>shrinking from t-rex to emu
This isn't how it happens... t-rex's died, there are no ancestors of the T-rex. The lineage ended. They are however, related, NOT ancestors, to smaller theropods, which are the ones that ended up as the birds. This T-rex became a bird meme needs to die.

>>126112756
>he believes in dragons

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>He believes ancient roman propaganda used to control the poor by telling them to live in a "turn the other cheek" manor by making up the story of Christ.
>being mentally cucked by a civilization from over a thousand years ago.
You've done this to yourself mate.

>>126107150
so metaironic kek

>>126110067
>General relativity fails at quantum scales
>No working GR quantum theory
>General relativity fails at largest scales (spiral galaxy rotation problem), have to """discover""" overwhelming majority of universe is magical "dark matter" and "dark energy" that is invisible and doesn't interact with anything other than gravity in your theory
>Really just a fudge factor to make your broken theory's predictions match up to wildly different reality
General relativity BTFO!

>>126112830
Please explain this to me. Seriously, I want to know how you think that this would work

>>126113027
Genius. Absolutely brilliant deductive reasoning. I do, in fact, believe in dragons. That is what I was saying.

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>>126107150
You clearly haven't done battle with a rooster before.

>>126111441
We are just an environmental force like any other that manipulates a creature's development. Wolves, birds, reptiles all have had their behavior and traits manipulated by, and to, other animals.

>>126110085
Our meat computers just kick most ass. Elephants have better memory though.

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>>126112369
Anyone who thinks evolution has to be linear simply misunderstands how natural selection works. Traits are selected for based on the ability of their hosts to reproduce more frequently than animals without the trait, that is all. Whether or not a trait adds complexity to the organism does not matter.

That being said, the VAST majority of dinos were the size of chickens.

>>126113052
>He doesnt know what "turn the other cheek" means in proper context

americans are the proof of evolution

>>126110307
It would prove the validity of such practices though.

Athiesm, more like FAGGOTRY

>>126107150
It's already been proven, you're the last remnants of an idiotic culture that hates science and exploration. End yourself.

>>126112412
So did the meteor have dinosaur-sensing technology...?

>>126113194
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson%E2%80%93Morley_experiment

>>126113272
Go hold a ball with air in it underwater. Gravity remains a theory until you can create a repeatable experiment of an object orbiting a larger one. Cavendish failed at this.

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>>126113580
Pic related = (You)

>>126112872
>believes there was nothing then an explosion
>thinks he's better than muh God fags

>>126112991
So we have bones of dinosaurs but not our much younger monkey dads?

>>126108118
CHIRP

>>126111302
>couldn't argue entire post
>its all nonsense

classic athiest logic is to resort to kaballah as universes origins, and when you get btfo, simply increase how many years or how far away or how fast it's moving , or how large it is, so your bullshit can make sense, but iit never does because it's all built upon laws based in theory which are not the truth.

>>126113826
futurama_missing_link.mp4

>>126113678
>the moon
>inb4 fake moon landing/hologram moon

>>126108844
>match morphologically
>these two different things aren't different
Get out of here. When we stop finding plants with DNA in between animals then I'll believe. Till then literal magic is more believable.

>>126111816
while somehow simultaneously transforming into petrol, yet every dinosaur bone we dip in acid yields blood vessels

>>126113979
Which space mission did you go on? None. You're taking second hand information and using an appeal to authority.
>daddy NASA made billions showing me these moon landing movies so they're true

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>>126113851
>being this retarded.
How do you live with yourself?

>>126113746
>avoids my pointing out of his shit sandwich of an argument
>posts 9gag tier meme

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>>126109633
>bill nye cucked out so muh sandnigger desert book is true

tell me 1 reason why evolution denying threads aren't /x/? pseudo fake history are /x/

>>126114165
So you're gonna use some charlatan's argument or answer as an excuse to denounce evolution instead of from a scientist who studied it??

>>126110397
(((Science))) degree.
Oh yeah I really love spending three weeks on one problem, totally worth 50k per year.

>>126114155
>can't argue points at all, resorts to ad hominem.

keep sucking freemasonic cocks

>>126107150
Certain type of Rockefeller-inspired atheist believe this.

Some could be atheist without believe this.

But correct, most Western atheist are based on Rockefeller system and thus believe this.

The Big Three Foundations push this. Pretty dumb no evidence.

>>126112872
>god can't create himself
>but the principles of the universe can create themselves
Atheshits

>>126114528
>appeal to authority
Try again.
It doesn't make sense, and you can't explain it further.

>>126114152
So then the Jews just want to make us believe that the moon exists for no reason?

>>126114680
How can anyone prove that God didn't make the big bang happen? LITERALLY makes infinitely more sense than "nothing exploded then it was universe xDdddd"

ITT: Both Christcucks and fedorafags defend their ideologies based on weak assumptions. Learn2Ockham

>>126114661
>no evidence
why do I keep baiting
why god
why is always 90% of american flags
jesus christ, you can literally emulate evolution with a bunch of hamsters
what the fuck do you think dog breeds are

>>126107849
most of those ones arent even Christian tard

>>126114605
There's plenty of evidence on the internet and archived in books from the scientific studies on evolution, and it's generally accepted and peer reviewed in the scientific community, no one but idiots deny their African descent. And if you deny abiogenesis, then you really need to off yourself.

>>126114771
You only believe it's for no reason because you are brought up to believe only the material world exists and knowledge of thoughts don't matter of have implicit power . They do. Jews know this, but tell you it's not true.

>>126107150
PROOF CHRISTIANITY IS THE ONE TRUE FAITH

>>125637346
>>125637346
>>125637346

>>126114771
Nice try. The moon obviously exists as it's observable by everyone. Try to stop forming disingenuous Jewish arguments when your worldview is being questioned.

>>126114986
>some of the niggers left I guess and became white because the sun and if you don't believe this you are dumb

>>126114850
The same anyone could say: How can anyone prove that God did make the big bang happen?

I think we've found many examples of smaller winged dinosaurs that ate completely verifiable fossil records. Fucking religionfags everyone

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>>126114986
>This guy again

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>>126114528
>denounce evolution

evolution is a theory not a religion, and a very new theory full of fraud and professional bullshit
>>126114359
Social darwinism is categorized as the application of darwins theory of evolution as interpretted as a natural function of society itself and has shaped the political paradigm of every major leader of the last century.

The fact this has never occured to you shows how little you understand.

>>126107150
EVOLUTION AND BIG BANG = FAKE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TX31d-tPr6M

>>126115141
You can't but It makes infinitely more sense than nothing made nothing happen but it was really everything

>>126115024
So then tell me the fucking reason then.

>>126111357
Lol, I'd gorge her eye out with a spoon for like $500 bucks.

>>126114605
That's not an appeal to authority, rather an appeal to the researchers, but it seems you can't be bothered to take 3 hours of your life researching a claim from valid sources who have used the scientific method and proven it fact, this is why you fail at logic.

Post more ancestor images

>>126115405
I just said the reason, you have the reading comprehension of a nigger

>>126114001
Fun Fact: 60% of your DNA is identical to a banana

>>126115181
Funny enough, that actor and I have the same name.

i hate americans so goddam much

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>>126107849
>plateaus are tree stumps
what

>>126107849
the earth is flat and hollow???

>>126115639
Then kill yourself

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>>126112872
>thinks God follows physics

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>>126114165
eggsdee

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>>126114986
>it's generally accepted and peer reviewed in the scientific community,

which clearly means it cannot in anyway be wrong.

hey hows that global warming and meting ice caps coming along?

if you deny abiogenesis, then you really need to off yourself
>haha athiestic theories can't be denied, because clearly noone is ever wrong about these things

>>126115292
The reason why no one uses that reasoning is because you can apply it to anything, even stuff you know the answer to. You can just say "because God did it" to literally everything and you can't prove or disprove it.

Why not look for an answer instead of immediately resorting to what is essentially a cop-out?

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>>126107150
That's not actually what T-rex looked like. We've found quills in their arms and heads.

>>126115772
There's nothing wrong in believing God, as long as you're not a fucking idiot who denies science and scientific facts.

>>126115713
No. NOT HERE.

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>>126110085
Magpies can do the mirror test you retard

>>126109633
Just wanted to add, the (((negative energy))) accounts for 95% of the mass of the universe, of which they cannot detect by any known means, but know it to exist. They cant figure out what 95% of the shit that exists is, or how to detect it...but they know its there...but listen to them about whats real and whats not when it comes to religion! They totally know a small fraction of a percent of what is really out there and therefore know most about religion!

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>>126111748
They are good pets. I had half a dozen as a kid. They get lonely though so you need to get more than one. Otherwise they start pulling all their feathers out when you're away from home.

>>126115458

>but it seems you can't be bothered to take 3 hours of your life researching a claim from valid sources

projecting.


>(((valid sources))) who have used the scientific method and proven it fact.

still not arguing any points from ones own research and simply referring to authority.
liek I said keep sucking freemasonic cocks

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>>126115800
Sometimes I wonder if we only exist to fuck the universe and obtain it's vagina nectar.

>>126114155
life couldn’t form from sugar, protein, water, and lightning we have all hat stuff and haven’t been able to create life and the Big Bang form from literally nothing. And the single celled organisms we have found which would be like in what atheists to believe the first forms life have 8-12 chromosomes pairs and 8,000 genes. That doesn't come from lifeless sugar, protein, water, and electricity. Also then where the hell did trees come from too? Also before you say fungus/mushrooms those are more related to animals than plants.

From what I remember the first forms of life were thermalsynthesis (bottom of the ocean at thermal vents). The cell would have to solve all of these problems within it's short lifespan before it drifted too far from the heat, or got destroyed by something physically:

1: Process/digest energy.
2: Establish a barrier between self and the outside.
3: Establish- either actively or passively- some form of Homeostasis.
4: Grow and develop from it's infancy. Hence produce and develop more complex proteins.
5: Reproduce.

You can't explain all of those things in detail, that isn't even the full list. And the odds against it happening within the first 3 billion years of the planet's existence is astronomical.
Nobody understands the big bang. I heard it described as the "everywhere stretch" as the amount of space that existed today did all exist, but was smaller. Or something.

What we do know is our laws of physics break down, and nothing makes any sense. Potentially when the creator was writing/programming them?

Anyone with any experience in higher math and physics will tell you how often triangles, trigonometry and a few irrational, infinitely long and infinitely complex numbers (pi, e, square root of 2, square root of 3, 1/2 square root of 2, the convergence of the fibbonaci sequence) all come up. This is not out of coincidence.

>>126116173
>Scientism in 2017


>universe is 70% dark matter, which exists even though we can't see or detect it or prove it exists

>God is only for idiots who need imaginary friends

>>126116215
I'm not here to argue. And a fallacy isn't always invalid.

>>126115940
Earth is 6000-7000 years old. God created the earth. Evolution is a lie.

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>Father of Big Bang Theory Georges Lemaître was a Roman Catholic Priest
>Carl Linnaeus classified humans as apes and he was a young earth creationist
>Charles Darwin was a christian who discovered natural selection
>Gregor Mendel the Father of Genetics was Catholic

>Evolution and the Big Bang are 'Atheist' theories.

>>126116494
mfw reproduction requires past information passed forward and this renders big bang/evolution foolish as it implores you that a 747 jet assembled itself for no reason except nature, yet noway god exists.

>>126116691
And you believe this from a book written by kikes, our very enemies, well done sir.

>>126114984
But they are equally stupid.

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Science is a new religion

>>126116893
Forgot link
https://youtu.be/vw-6ToEcirE

>>126116842
New kikes are bad. Old kikes aren't.

>>126116893
It would have to be dogmatic in order to be a religion.

>>126116716
Jesuit priests control every astronomical observatory in the western world.

athiests dont realize their useful idiocy

>>126116862
>thinking college is dumb is as stupid as believing in a flat hallow earth
No I think you're the retard

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>no these figurines are fake lol
>good goyim

>>126116893
>>126117114
Scientism is very dogmatic

>>126117314
What the fuck is Scientism?

>>126117086
Still though, it doesn't hold up to the evidence presented by peer reviewed studies on the universe. Science is democracy, not religion.

>>126107150
Im not atheist but how do you explain observed unnatural selection? It can not be denied. So unnatural selection happens and proves that without selective breeding nature will take over and do it instead. So what is stoping evolution from happening? Does god just decide to stop the process when a subspecies splits off too far? That would be gold medal mental gymnastics right there

>>126117263
Where's your hat? You're supposed to post the hat.

>>126117464
Even selectively bred organisms are subject to natural selection, humans merely artificially amplify the survival pressures beyond just the environment.

Natural selection never stops, not until extinction.

>>126117459
"Oh yes goyim aliens are most diffidently real even though there is no proof and seeded our planet"

>>125637346
https://youtu.be/vw-6ToEcirE

>>126117314
I'm not an atheist, I don't believe in a personal God, rather the universal forces of energy that binds us with quantum meme magic and the gravity of galaxies and stars.

>>126116494
mfw when math is arbitrary concept made by man and has no bearing on the physical surroundings whatsoever

>>126117459
>Science is democracy

It most certainly is not, a majority consensus means precisely dick to new evidence which invalidates previous interpretations of theories.

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>>126117464
Hey where are those transitional species that the entire theory of evolution depends on?

Macroevolution has never been observed and waved off as "muh millions and billions of years"

No species reproduces with another species creates viable offspring

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>>126109633

>1) A giant explosion happened for no reason when a wave fluctuation happened

You don't know shit. The data encoded in the spectral intensity of the CMB background can predict (with high statistical significance) the distribution of matter in the universe.

http://www.azoquantum.com/News.aspx?newsID=2924#

Holy shit, shortly after we found gravity waves are legit too, bringing the whole story together (if you're not a retard)

https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/news/ligo20160211

> 2) All of this protomatter arbitrarily separated itself in to groups for no reason

Gay. You know that's not what happened to matter in the early universe. Heat, hydrogen, gravity. Less ingredients in the entire universe than your shopping less. What the fuck do you think you get? Hiroshima. Check.

> After several billion years of being a deadly environment which is hostile to life and amino acids[ ...]

What deadly environment is that exactly? Amino acids change ionization and structure across pH. Peptide bond is very stable, acid hydrolysis of amide bond needs to be really hot to get over activation energy.

> , some rocks evolved in to amino acids in this toxic environment.

Rocks? More like, carbon. And nitrogen. You know, the shit all over the air and in the water. And though aminos are stable and all over the place (ayy, even inside meteors http://www.pnas.org/content/68/2/486.short), it was probably sugars first. RNAs/ribose based some shit. Which, (see pic) are generated by light and hydrogen cyanide in water. Wow! Fuck me!

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.201300321/full

>>126117966
What? nature has laws it follows (math) like how fast something accelerates

>>126118105
The world is what we believe read "1984"

>>126117966
Wanna know something crazy? Same could be said for logic but until its invalidated by something which can show itself to be more accurate or reliable its all we got

>>126118220
You got it reversed, math follows natures rules, nature doesn't follow math's (our perception of) rules.

>>126118105
You're a leaf, plus, it wouldn't be a democracy without peer reviewed papers and a huge number of applications for different specialists and smart cookies.

Also, your universal health care is going to fall apart should WW3 break out, enjoy.

>>126117774
Yes, unnatural selection is the same process coming about in human controlled environment is what i was trying to get across

>>126117780
>gravity of galaxies and stars.

lies

gravity does not exist .

>common definitions of gravity used by the scientism priests

A. Emergent property of mass
B. A force on it's own
C. a product of elctromagnetism
D. We don't know , butit's useful for measuring, stop asking questions goy , newton already proved it. We went to the moon in 1969

>>126118378
nature follows the laws of physics not physics follows nature

>>126118220
Nature doesn't have laws, Laws are merely descriptions of consistently observed phenomena.

In short, the laws of the universe are man made abstractions too and they may not be entirely accurate

>>126118184
>gravity waves are legit too,

sure they are, because the scientists told you so with their experiments in their secret labs, ignor all opposing research.

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God

>no evidence of existing

Evolution

>evidence of it happening

/pol/autists btfo

>>126118459
You're here on /pol/ arguing to a centrist when you could be Googling the answers to some of life's mysteries. I'm a not a scientist, so don't use my argument as a means to debunk something that's been proven using the scientific method, again, science is democracy.

>>126118300
yfw logic is only a paradigm introduced by greek pagans, nd inherently incompatable with ateism, as without gods or piety one cannot have values, and therefore standards of thought and morality. Except those conceived arbitrarily by experience.

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>>126118603
>doesn't read threads before posting

>>125637346

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>>126118845
fedorautists BTFO

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>>126118600
Not so secret and reproducible.

>>126118521
there are no laws of physics, there are only expression of observations, and theories.

Butterflies, kites, and airplanes shit on you laws of gravitation

and higher order of density elements shit on your newtons laws.

>>126118845
>reading threads filled with bs from christfags

>/pol/tards are more reliable scientifically than real scientists

weeb nigger

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>>126118957
>there are no laws of physics

>>126108914
Fake news faggot

>>126112411
your reddit is showing

Atheists literally believe that a hydrogen atom + time = 500 billion galaxies with 500 billion stars each. Only God could do such a thug.

>>126118811
Except the fact we do good for the benefit of the common group, instead of bad deeds such as the taboo of fratricide, we learned cooking thousands of years before christ, which allowed us to chew easier, leading to smaller jaws and more room for the skull containing our spectacular encephalon. Sorry, but humanity is nothing but a product of itself, even it's deities it loves so much, they're all a product of our minds.

>>126118917
Shows graph with arbitrary numeric values that if deciphered, no doubt proves nothing about gravity.

but insinuates much that will no doubt contradict with previously presented theories. But thats fine because at least the goy think this is physical proof of gravities existence, even though it exists in mythematics only and completely in observable or reproducible in an experiment.

Unlike simply experiments with buoancy and density,

>>126118119
You're fucking retarded. Macroevolution is the logical extension of microevolution on a geological timescale. By definition it cannot be observed over fewer than millions of years, meaning obviously no one person can watch it unfold. The fact that microevolution exists necessarily implies macroevolution exists as well because it's just microevolution over more time.

Transitional species are well documented in the fossil record. Archaeopteryx is the missing link between dinosaur and bird that the OP apparently has never heard of, for example. It's just that every time such a fossil is found Christcucks cry "b-b-but where's the missing link between modern birds and Archaeopteryx?"

You know how some people say climate change is man-made and others say it's a natural occurrence over a geologic timescale? It's one or the other. Nobody says "lol climate change has never been observed".

>>126119121
>didn't read the thread
>believing science which changes a lot

>>126107150
>christian here.
how can you not believe in a god that can set in motion a series of events that is continually evolving and self sustaining and ultimatly yeilds the greatest and most significant substance in our galaxy...... life

>>126118603
>atheism has so many holes in it you have to believe in Ancient Aliens and everyone is a black woman at their core

>religion
>accepts humans can't explain everything
>teaches proud of your own identity

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>>126107150

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>>126108607
birds have a tail too dumbass.

>>126119332
>actually autistic

b& for underage pls

>>126119289
Why is that? Why could only God do that?

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>>126119314
>Macroevolution is the logical extension of microevolution
>bacteria are the same as cats

>>126119121
>Bill Nye has done a 180 on everything he taught on his children's show
>now preaches a post-modern feelings based agenda.
oh yeah, those scientists sure aren't corruptible or anything.

>>126119310
you sir haven't been keeping up with currrent events. Gravity waves were first detected last year and since then have been consistently detected til today and even generated in the lab. They exist.

>>126119584
>actually autistic

b& for underage pls

>>126119302
>Except the fact we do good for the benefit of the common group

hahahahaha

>which allowed us to chew easier, leading to smaller jaws and more room for the skull containing our spectacular encephalon.

this is a guess at best, not even a complete theory, this is like saying child carrying enabled humans to walk upright, and living in water environments are why we don't have fur.

it'a just pulled out of ass.

>>126119656
BILL NYE IS NOT A SCIENTIST. HE DOES NOT HAVE A PHD.

>>126118119
Transitional species are all species. By the time a species evolves into something different its ancestor does not just hang around, for example if you have A evolve into B then A does not exist because evolution does not stop for A. Instead there could be C that has also evolved from A so C and B are related and A is a thing of the past.

Not the best explanation but i dont know how else to explain something to someone who does not understand the process

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>>126119121
16 minute video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRB16BARvz0

Links in pic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZKocFGQf24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp8AF7i9A3U
http://www.newgeology.us/Shroud.pdf
http://www.sindone.info/DILAZZA3.pdf
http://www.shroud.it/ROGERS-3.pdf
http://shroud.com/pdfs/whanger.pdf
http://www.shroud.com/pdfs/accett2.pdf
http://shroudnm.com/docs/2013-01-10-Yannick-Cl%C3%A9ment-Reflections-on-Ray-Rogers-Shroud-Work.pdf
http://shroud.typepad.com/topics/2005/10/secular_peerrev.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type_distribution_by_country
http://www.shroud.com/pdfs/ssi08part5.pdf
https://shroud.com/pdfs/orvieto.pdf
http://theshroudofturin.blogspot.ca/2016/08/medieval-photography-nicholas-allen.html
http://www.shroud.com/pdfs/soonsrepsonse.pdf

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>>126107150

It is not only atheists who accept evolution. Intelligent Christians do as well.

Rather it is only Muslims, Mormons and the dumbest of all Christians who deny it.

>>126119575
hey dumbass
birds don't have bones in their tail like a lizard

>>126119314
>You're fucking retarded.
>muh single example Archaeopteryx which was a proven made in china fake, just like many other fossils used to support evolution have been revealed as fakes.


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-fake-fossils-pervert-paleontology-excerpt/

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>>126109633

> 4) Over a billion years those amino acids collected together and arranged themselves in to DNA for no reason.

It was RNA, which forms interesting patterns (motifs) and patterns-of-patterns (domains) which have interesting an specific chemical activity depending on their orientation and order.

What's even crazier is that some of those structures perform chemical functions elsewhere on their little nanobot body, self-catalyzing. This self-assembly of molecular machines should probably freak anyone out.

Oh, then you find out that some of your most ancient genes, ones which you share identically with all life on this planet, has some of these self-editors baked into the low-level cellular source code (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3334697/).

> 5) This DNA was bacteria and this eventually evolved in to fish.

Encapsulation was the first thing, really. Imagine a molecular machine sitting around, and it's particular surface makes A into B. If this was inside a container, a barrier that kept the A in a closer proximity, the effective concentration of A is increased. It's worth noting that the speed of the reaction is exponentially proportional to the concentration of A, so this is a big deal. It's a chainsaw motor vs. Lambo V12.

So when metabolisms were making more of themselves, yeah, you could call that bacteria.

>>126119860

Why are almost all of those sites that exist specifically to defend the shroud of turin and the rest are Youtube vids

>>126119653
>reading comprehension

Absolute strawman. I don't see how you can make such a retarded extrapolation from what I said. What I said is that given millions of years, the modern bacteria could evolve into more complex, multicellular organisms akin to cats. That doesn't mean the current bacteria are the same as the current cats. Microevolution observable in a human lifetime doesn't produce enough changes to warrant something being classified as a different species. It takes millions of years. And macroevolution is just the name for microevolution over millions of years. If you think that amount of change cannot happen in millions of years then you either a) don't understand how long millions of years is or b) don't believe that microevolution exists either. So which is it?

>>126107849
The "global warming" meme is a hoax. Get Bill's Nye out of your asshole.

>>126119540
>126119540
kekimus maximus

>>126119748
They observed the change in the bones they found in Africa, but like I said, you're not willing to do any research by yourself, you're not autodidactic, you're retarded.

>>126119604
>>126119289
lmao i wonder where that (you) went

>>126119550
a known fake

>>126119953
>Intelligent Christians do as well.
you mean heretics

>>126109633
>atheists
What does cosmology have to do with non-belief (atheism)?

Just because I fail to believe in one more god than you doesn't mean I ascribe to any particular science or philosophy.

>>126116893
>things Theists tell themselves to feel better about their cosmology.

>>126120086
>bacteria evolving is the same as cats evolving

>>126107150
No one cares if you're too stupid to understand evolution. Go be illiterate elsewhere.

>>126120175
They're butthurt by the cold hard cock of exploration and discovery, the thread is best abandoned to 4Plebs.

>>126119860
shroud of turin is already a confirmed forgery

>>126120250
>implying it isn't
https://youtu.be/vw-6ToEcirE

>there are still people who doubt evolution
Go do some research you retards.

>>126120086
Real macroevolution is unobservable but it happens over millions of years, believe me Science is right and peer reviewed. even though rapidly reproducing species placed under innumerable condition have reproduced as the same species . Take it as faith that they evolved so we can feed you more bullshit about dinosaurs, and land mammals evolving into whales , and people on mars.

>>126120066
>youtube vids are bad
What you expect to link to ones saying it's fake?

>>126120384
>can't read
literally the guy's first point

>>126120018
>single example

There are dozens of examples. I just gave one because it's in the OP. Archaeopteryx is not the same as archaeoraptor, which was revealed as fake almost immediately. Archaeoraptor was unveiled at the end of 1999 and a few months later it was published that it may be bullshit. By the end of 2000 it was confirmed fake.

>>126120025
I read somewhere that they found an RNA sequence that's extreme damaging, and that there exists another sequence who's only purpose it's to inhibe it, meaning that it's origin it's outside the cell and that it is an foreign attacking RNA that got stuck in our genetic material and we need an specific counter for it permanently.

>>126107150
So do Christians. Stop making us look retarded.

>>126120129
>incomplete skull and tooth remains indicate humans generally had smaller jaws because we think so and no way we ever collect regular ape fossils like Java man and Pilttown man.

>>126109089
yea bird bones are different correct?

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>>126107150
Atheists believe in the big bang too, which is the
largest meme in the history of humanity. Also, atheism attracts a large percentage of faggots,
for obvious reasons.

>>126120644
no you're a heretic

>>126120384
so has lucy and a fuckton of other fossils.
only catholics care about that shit