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BILL C-16 PASSED: Thread #3: Green eggs and Ham Edition

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Senate hearing on C16 featuring Jordan B. Peterson (the only man with common sense in the room): https://youtu.be/KnIAAkSNtqo

Behead those who He She
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Canada fact 1:
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Canada fact 2:
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>>126090626
But we made up for it by taking in syrians
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>>126090538
Whats c16 and why is jordan relevant to it. Also, is this canadian senate?
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Canada fact 3:
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>>126091056
Nope wrong post link,
I tried
>>126074225
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>>126091110
woooah
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>>126090538
>cunt lays out a trap for a solid minute aiming to make peterson look like a racist nazi bigot
>peterson immediately shapes up and demolishes cunt's argument with a single statistics 101 statement, completely dodging the trap
fuck...
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Feminists are upset guys. We need to use them
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/transgender-rights-bill-female-born-spaces-1.4110634
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Sort yourself.

Sort your people.
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>>126090956
Ok just looked it up, what the fugg canada?
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>>126091514
>I may have been born male at birth and I was born with a penis, but I was born a woman
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>>126091583
Annex us.
Start a petition to annex Canada and a letter to Trump and just see what happens
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>>126090538
Actually more than one person was sensible, curiously enough. Looks to me like even the courts are fucked as clearly, objectively didn't listen or take into account ANYTHING that has been said on the side they dislike.
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>>126090626
Fuck off dude it was only Quebec !!!
You anglo cuck followed your british leader like the eternal anglo that you are !!
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Summary:
Here is the bill for anyone interested:

http://www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Bills/421/Government/C-16/C-16_1/C-16_1.PDF

Simply put, it allows "gender identity or expression" to be actionable under our hate speech and discrimination law.

I believe the question of if refusing to use someone's pronouns is actionable under criminal discrimination is up to the Department of Justice, and in a page now taken down, they said they would interpret the law based on the policy of the Ontario Human Rights Code which states misgendering someone is discrimination and runs foul of the Ontario Human Rights Code and thusly the criminal code if the Justice Department accepts it.This is the policy here:
http://www.ohrc.on.ca/sites/default/files/Policy%20on%20preventing%20discrimination%20because%20of%20gender%20identity%20and%20gender%20expression.pdf

Even if the Department of Justice doesn't accept the policy, than misgendering someone or refusing to use their name is still against the Canadian Human Rights code and you could still be brought in front of a tribunal, fined, and held in contempt of court if you ignore it, which may include prison time. Bill C-16 would only give them more protection do this. Mostly the tribunals deal with employment matters, but not always, such in this case:
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/rights-tribunal-orders-quebec-comedian-to-pay-35000-to-young-singer-he-ridiculed

Here's the Justice Department talking about their intentions to accept the Ontario code:
http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/pl/identity-identite/faq.html
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Canadian fact 3:

WE DONT FLINCH
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>>126090626
>>126092139

From Wikipedia:

>Under King's administration, the Canadian government, responding to strong public opinion, especially in Quebec, refused to expand immigration opportunities for Jewish refugees from Europe.[75] In June 1939 Canada, along with Cuba and the United States, refused to allow entry for the 900 Jewish refugees aboard the passenger ship MS St. Louis.[76]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lyon_Mackenzie_King#Ethnic_policies
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>>126092129
All the people who voted for it will never meet these snowflakes en masse and don't have kids who will become like these social fuckups
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>>126090538
you will literally be put to death by lethal injection for playing dude look like a lady in your own home in canada. they're going to implement transgender death squads and will patrol for illegal language.
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>>126092332
except when you arent called your preferred pronoun
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>>126092271
This image outlines some of the practices of the Human Rights Tribunals. You can find more information online.

Here is Jared Brown's legal opinion on Bill C-16:
https://litigationguy.wordpress.com/2016/12/24/bill-c-16-whats-the-big-deal/
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>>126092332
>>126092424

Soldier is French Canadian btw
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It's illegal to be conservative basically.
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>>126090756
Where did it all go so wrong /pol/?
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>>126092352
Makes sense. As is, it's now a very legitimate life-threatening issue to have to work with someone who isn't sane, to the point that it is now a very valid and serious reason to consider resigning as soon as possible.
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>>126092567
mapel syrup probably, ask /x/ about it
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>>126090626
Fuckin anglo hating on us when we are the fuckin based nation that gave birth to canada
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it's funny, during the election we had all the lefties and socialists saying they would move to canada if trump won, now i wonder how many right-wingers/conservatives in canada are wanting to come down to US
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>>126090626
Reeeee i hate youuuu
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>>126090538
Thy/Zee are a bunch of fucking cucks!! Fucking kill Zee/Thy-selves canadian pieces of shit!!
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>>126092907

None, because if you're really a conservative you're not a rootless cosmopolitan
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>>126090538
Reminder that the US is on the same way. The leftists want to dictate speech everywhere.

>Not using transgender pronouns could get you fined

>Employers and landlords who intentionally and consistently ignore using pronouns such as “ze/hir” to refer to transgender workers and tenants who request them — may be subject to fines as high as $250,000.

>The legal enforcement is in line with the city’s guidance on discrimination based on gender identity or expression.

http://nypost.com/2016/05/19/city-issues-new-guidelines-on-transgender-pronouns/

Wonder where this will end. Can someone who identifies as attack helicopter sue when e.g. it is misgendered as a AH-64A when in fact it identifies as AH-64E?
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>>126092907
I lived in the USA as a child but didn't stay long enough for green card. Wishing so hard we stayed right now. I'd be citizen by now.
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>>126092567

We need to spread this countries real history and memory
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>>126092907
None because only leftards exist in this cucked land.
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>>126092075
I seriously second this.
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>>126092581
It's just going to make life harder for snowflakes desu. People won't want to hire them, will make up reasons to segregate them. See: >>126091514 feminists are already upset cuz peniswomen are trying to get into born female only spaces like rape therapy
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>>126093033
Firstly, yes. Secondly, you should identify as "Kill the kikes"/"hang the spics".
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WAT HABBENING
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>>126093018
of course, im more referring to the younger people, specifically in college. must be pretty spooky to think that if you dont call a tranny "ze" or whatever, you could go to jail and possibly have your education fucked with
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I CANT FEEL THE WAY I DID BEFORE DONT YOUR BACK ON ME I WONT BE IGNORED
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>>126093237
I hope so. If even one case backfires it would be hell, though. All you need is one judge to decide it's illegal to refuse a tranny like that and you're now looking at a precedent to demonstrate it's illegal not to accept a tranny regardless of any other characteristics.
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>>126090538
You leafs are fucking pathetic. Do something about this kind of shit because it's about to be too fucking late to take a stand.
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>>126093033
>Can someone who identifies as attack helicopter sue when e.g. it is misgendered as a AH-64A when in fact it identifies as AH-64E?
checked
going against my flight plan is now illegal.
Checkmate atheists.
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>>126092907
none because trump is a neocon zionist
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>>126093420
Can pol come up with a feasible way to exploit this new law?
None of the helicopter memegenders or whatever. If I'm gonna get fucked I might as well fuck someone else. All aboard the man train
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>>126092271
Simple way to troll the law. Create new gender "hitlerkin" pronouns mein/meinself/mein fuhrer
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>>126093719
>Get fined for anti semitism
Your move retrad
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Exploit the law. Create some stupid gender that they know is fake, identify as it. When they refuse to accep your pronouns, sue them. Beat them at their own game.
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>>126090538
Whats going on with the dude on the right? Guy in the red shirt and blue tie. Start the video and then just watch his face.
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>>126092525
so is the terrorist :^)
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>>126091110
Truly Canada is the most powerful country.
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>>126094080
lol i noticed that too when i watched it a few hours ago. seems to have some kind of twitch
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>>126093662
Just pick a gender pronoun and start reporting absolutely everyone for not using it.
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>>126093662

It won't be easy, because the SJW control the Human Rights Commission and Tribunals. They are legally obligated to look into any complaint you make, but beyond that, they probably won't make tribunal case out if it unless they think you are serious. One way to help this along would be to make a complaint against a business or government. They seem to take discrimination much more seriously in those situations.

At the very least, I suppose you could tie down the human rights system and fuck with them, and you should.
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>>126093293

It's less widespread than it seems. I joke about it with my friends all the time

>>126094101

He's Amerindian
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what is to stop our attack helicoptorkin from having overtly racist homophobic pronouns.

I am an apache my pronouns are thus
nigfag:niggerfaggot:blackieMcqueen
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Wait so it passed senate and is actually law now?
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>>126094740
no just the review counsel
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>>126094552
>what is to stop our attack helicoptorkin from having overtly racist homophobic pronouns.

Oh I dunno, things like currently existing hate-speech laws
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>>126094740
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>>126092271
the only way to get rid of this is to get a politician to misgender you. Have them arrested.
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>>126094740

There's just one more step, Royal Assent. I believe it's basically the Queen's agent approving of it, which they obviously would. Just a formality at this point.
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>>126094982
What does it still have to go through to become law and when will that be?
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>>126095020
"You do have freedom of speech in Canada, until you don't"

Trying to turn binary things into grey areas
Truly the way of scum
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>>126090538
Why would old ivan eat pork; and he only needs pork to call him daddy
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IT'S LIKE
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never forget where u came from fellow leafs
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>>126090756
RACIST! DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH!
WHO CARES WHAT THIS OLD DEAD WHITE MAN SAID? WE'LL HAVE TO DESTROY EVERYTHING HE WROTE OR SAID SO WE CAN MOVE ON INTO A PEACEFUL MULTICULTURAL SOCIETY
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>>126093849

ontairo human rights commission would implode
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>>126093033
>1 post by this ID

A similar law in the US would be unconstitutional. The US doesn't have any "hate speech" exemptions, free speech is absolute.
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>>126095407
Great Britain has forsaken us
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>>126093849
Unfortunately, stating that this is anti-semitism is now a hate crime.
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>>126092907
I do, and I should have the ability to move there within the next 5 years or so through my career. I will definitely retain property in Toronto though due to the extremely valuable market.
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>>126090538
>Behead those who He She

What are you ISIS?
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>>126095211
>Once a bill has been passed in the same form by both the Senate and the House of Commons, the Governor General as representative of the Crown attends Parliament in the Senate Chamber. The Members from the House of Commons are then summoned by the Usher of the Black Rod to the Senate. Once all parties are present, the bills that are to receive royal assent are presented to the Governor General or a Justice of the Supreme Court of Canada acting as Deputy of the Governor General. The formal request is made in the following manner: “May it please Your Excellency: The Senate and the House of Commons have passed the following Bill, to which they humbly request Your Excellency’s Assent”, the title of the bill is then read and the Governor General or her Deputy signifies assent by a nod of the head.

Just red-tape archaic nonsense left. They were running out of time to pass it, but I'm not sure if the recent vote stops the time. If it doesn't you should see it passed quite soon, two or three weeks.
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Where a my leafblower when you need one...
MEXICOOOO? MEHICOOOOO?
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>>126095967
No, only canada.
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>>126091110
So is the shit I just took. What's your point leaf
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>>126095020
if any lawyers are around there is a term for "using the law, to hide from the law"

Chief Frenchbong sir, My true personality a wretched slave, please mastah punish me. It was all a lie, I was born this way
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>>126095211
>>126096045

Yeah, it has to royal assent(ascend?) before June 23, or it gets sent back to the Senate and I think it will have to be voted on again. I guess it's time to get all the "hate speech" out of your system before then.
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When will Peterson get fucking arrested already so that we can finally get rid of these shit threads.
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>>126096516
t.sam harris
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>>126092139
I grew up in Quebec in the 80's and can testify that there was always a lot of anti-semite sentiment.
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>>126095682
All it takes is another radical marxist president.
Look at your gun right in blue states.
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>>126091583
It's just the terminal stages of our virtue signalling death spiral.

Now that the precedent has been set for government compelled speech, the sky is the limit. Maybe people who live in Sharia zones will be forced to pray. Maybe people will be forced to date trannies. Who the fuck knows anymore.

This bill was literally passed for FEELINGS. They literally said "feelings" in the hearings as a reason for this.
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>>126096719
I've heard that they're even cheaper than their stereotypes and a pain to deal with for service providers (I never worked in the domain so I can't confirm)
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Did any conservative MPs go against it? There needs to be political winds against this type of overreach.
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>>126097403

Why would they? It doesn't affect businesses, which is all the Conservatives care about
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>>126097275
I really hope this affects liberals the most.
>accidentaly say the wrong pronoun
>jailed
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>>126092394
>dude look like a lady

Wow. Never thought about that. Just how many songs, movies, TV episodes, etc, just became illegal?
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>>126092271
That is just sad. You're not far from taking the cuck crown from us Cuckada.
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>>126097687

Or a movie that /pol/ would love where two black guys dress up as white girls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA-O4oS-Wb8
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>this is now thoughtcrime in canada
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>>126097403
Of course not. It would be hatespeech if they did.
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>>126098482

Within parliament, MPs are legally protected from liability from anything they say, or something like that
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>>126091110
A lot of Canada isn't habitable. There is a limit on infrastructure which is limited by the size economy. I guess we can make log roads into deep northern forests and settle immigrants in tents.
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>>126098576
Wow, that's cool. We should pass motions so that the entirety of the country is a parliement. Combined with gender garbage, we can all say we're MPgendered and save cucknada.
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>>126090538
Surprised none of the opposition could even answer why these "71 variations of gender" aren't even used by the same people that want them. Or why they don't believe this would cause confusion on the masses. Or why context is an acceptable claim when it's toward "marginalized" people.
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>>126098710
....Canada should be the worlds refugee center.
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Legally hate speech is:

Section 319 defines “public incitement of hatred” as an indictable offence:
(1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any
identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of
(a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or
(b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.
(2) Every one who, by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully
promotes hatred against any identifiable group is guilty of
(a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or
(b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.

>defences vs. charges

No person shall be convicted of an offence under subsection (2)
(a) if he establishes that the statements communicated were true;
(b) if, in good faith, the person expressed or attempted to establish by an argument an opinion on
a religious subject or an opinion based on a belief in a religious text;
(c) if the statements were relevant to any subject of public interest, the discussion of which was
for the public benefit, and if on reasonable grounds he believed them to be true; or
(d) if, in good faith, he intended to point out, for the purpose of (their) removal, matters
producing or tending to produce feelings of hatred toward an identifiable group in Canada.

>statements include words spoken/written/electronically or electromagnetically or otherwise recorded/signs/gestures/other visible representations
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>>126095020
But what happens when a niggerkin goes to jail? If the guards refuse to say their pronouns they go to jail too. And when all the guards are in jail, then what?
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>>126098913
counterpoint: antartica

It's large and no one lives there
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>>126099351
>On Genocide
Section 318 is also pertinent, as it defines advocating or promoting genocide as an indictable offence:
(1) Every one who advocates or promotes genocide is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to
imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.
(2) In this section, “genocide” means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy
in whole or in part any identifiable group, namely,
(a) killing members of the group; or
(b) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical
destruction.

In sub-section 4 of 318, “identifiable group” is defined as any section of the public distinguished by
colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation. (R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 318; 2004, c. 14, s. 1.)
Legal proceedings for charges under Section 318 or Section 319 of the Criminal Code cannot be instituted
without the consent of the Attorney General.

However, the Supreme Court rulings gave us this:

Truthful statements can
be presented in a manner that would meet the definition of hate speech, and not all

truthful statements must be free from restriction. Allowing the dissemination of hate
speech to be excused by a sincerely held belief would provide an absolute defence
and would gut the prohibition of effectiveness.
The benefits of the suppression of hate speech and its harmful effects
outweigh the detrimental effect of restricting expression which, by its nature, does
little to promote the values underlying freedom of expression. Section 14(1)(b) of the
Code represents a choice by the legislature to discourage hate speech in a manner that
is conciliatory and remedial. The protection of vulnerable groups from the harmful
effect emanating from hate speech is of such importance as to justify the minimal
infringement of expression.
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>>126099450
>A little more insight into hate speech:

Prohibiting
representations that are objectively seen to expose protected groups to hatred is
rationally connected to the objective of eliminating discrimination and the other
harmful effects of hatred. To satisfy the rational connection requirement, the
expression captured under legislation restricting hate speech must rise to a level
beyond merely impugning individuals: it must seek to marginalize the group by
affecting their social status and acceptance in the eyes of the majority. The societal
harm flowing from hate speech must be assessed as objectively as possible and the
focus must be on the likely effect of the hate speech on how individuals external to
the group might reconsider the social standing of the group.

Not all expression will be treated equally in determining an appropriate
balancing of competing values under a s. 1 analysis, since different types of
expression will be relatively closer to or further from the core values behind the
freedom, depending on the nature of the expression. Hate speech is at some distance
from the spirit of s. 2(b) because it does little to promote, and can in fact impede, the
values underlying freedom of expression. Hate speech can also distort or limit the
robust and free exchange of ideas by its tendency to silence the voice of its target
group. These are important considerations in balancing hate speech with competing
Charter rights and in assessing the constitutionality of the prohibition in s. 14(1)(b) of the Code.
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>>126099496
Framing speech as arising in a moral context or within a public policy
debate does not cleanse it of its harmful effect. Finding that certain expression falls
within political speech does not close off the enquiry into whether the expression
constitutes hate speech. Hate speech may often arise as a part of a larger public
discourse but it is speech of a restrictive and exclusionary kind. Political expression
contributes to our democracy by encouraging the exchange of opposing views. Hate
speech is antithetical to this objective in that it shuts down dialogue by making it
difficult or impossible for members of the vulnerable group to respond, thereby
stifling discourse. Speech that has the effect of shutting down public debate cannot
dodge prohibition on the basis that it promotes debate. Section 14 of the Code
provides an appropriate means by which to protect almost the entirety of political
discourse as a vital part of freedom of expression. It extricates only an extreme and

marginal type of expression which contributes little to the values underlying freedom
of expression and whose restriction is therefore easier to justify.

The fact that s. 14(1)(b) of the Code does not require intent by the
publisher or proof of harm, or provide for any defences does not make it overbroad.
Systemic discrimination is more widespread than intentional discrimination and the
preventive measures found in human rights legislation reasonably centre on effects,
rather than intent. The difficulty of establishing causality and the seriousness of the
harm to vulnerable groups justifies the imposition of preventive measures that do not
require proof of actual harm. The discriminatory effects of hate speech are part of the
everyday knowledge and experience of Canadians. As such, the legislature is entitled
to a reasonable apprehension of societal harm as a result of hate speech. The lack of
defences is not fatal to the constitutionality of the provision.
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>>126099542
Truthful statements can
be presented in a manner that would meet the definition of hate speech, and not all

truthful statements must be free from restriction. Allowing the dissemination of hate
speech to be excused by a sincerely held belief would provide an absolute defence
and would gut the prohibition of effectiveness.

The benefits of the suppression of hate speech and its harmful effects
outweigh the detrimental effect of restricting expression which, by its nature, does
little to promote the values underlying freedom of expression. Section 14(1)(b) of the
Code represents a choice by the legislature to discourage hate speech in a manner that
is conciliatory and remedial. The protection of vulnerable groups from the harmful
effect emanating from hate speech is of such importance as to justify the minimal
infringement of expression.

Section 14(1)(b) of the Code also infringes freedom of conscience and
religion as guaranteed under s. 2(a) of the Charter. An infringement of s. 2(a) will be
established where: (1) the claimant sincerely holds a belief or practice that has a
nexus with religion; and (2) the provision at issue interferes with the claimant’s
ability to act in accordance with his or her religious beliefs. To the extent that an
individual’s choice of expression is caught by the definition of “hatred” in s. 14(1)(b),
the prohibition will substantially interfere with that individual’s ability to disseminate
his or her belief by display or publication of those representations.

>Done
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>>126099351
>>126099450
>>126099496
Why not just have actual free speech? Why not allow people to advocate genocide?
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>>126099428
The niggerkin self-identifies as a troubled 14 year old girl, so he goes to juvie with other young girls
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>>126099723
If the judge thinks otherwise and sends him/her/nigger to real jail, does the judge go to jail too? How does this work, leafkin?
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>>126099630
Exterminate those who use the "zhe" and do not listen to us the superiour "che" identity.
Death to all who do not recognise our constructed superior way
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>>126099428
>And when all the guards are in jail, then what?
All of Canada is a jail now so who cares.
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I hope trans-racialism is next. I'll identify as an Inuit and get free skidoos and no gun laws.
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>>126099841
Che tell zhe, hecster!
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>>126100142
Protip: it's actually already a thing.
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>you have freedom of speech
>but you're going to prison if you say the wrong thing goy
I LOVE BIG BROTHER
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>>126091110
nice troll fagit
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Can't wait to join Islam and oppress women and gays. I will make sure they get what they asked for!
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>>126092271

>behavior that reinforces traditional heterosexual gender norms

it is now a hate crime in Canada for a man to have sex with a woman.
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Men
>I am a male
>"no, you are a girl"
>Ey fuck you buddy
Walks away

Women
>I am a woman
>"no you are a man"
>How dare you?
Cries

Trannies
>I am a quasi-femme transhermaphrodite
>"no you are a man/woman"
>RAAAAAAPPPPPEEEEE
Calls the police
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>>126101022
Just identify as attack helicopter before fucking and you can live your flight plan to the fullest
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>>126101022
>behavior that reinforces traditional heterosexual gender norms
Holy shit I didn't even notice this. Pure subversion.
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>>126101968
If you were to demand that the typical tumblrina refer to you as an apache attack helicopter, they'd most likely call your demand ridiculous, possibly citing its utter scientific implausibility.

Then ze will turn around and demand to be identified as an astral-gender non-binary gender-fluid questioning demiboy.

Really, what is more asinine? I mean fuck, at least most people know what the fuck you mean by the phrase "apache attack helicopter." Academics should start publishing papers defending the legitimacy of identifying as an attack helicopter, so we can point to the "extensive scholarly literature" that backs up the demand.
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>>126092560
we have to vote for Bernier
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>>126093018
there is no substantive difference between Canadian culture and US culture
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>>126103365
niggers
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>>126102772
its entirely possible. psychology is a by the numbers game. if you get a statistically significant number of people. Perhaps talk to some right wing groups for the funding.
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>>126103272
>being that much of a literal cuck
lol
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>>126093662
jokes about cis and males are now harassment. report all who do
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>>126093557
Tbh we did everything we could. There were protests that the fucking state-owned media of-course ignored, and we had the physical manifestation of logic and reason itself, Dr. Jordan Peterson, spearheading the campaign against the bill and we still failed.
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>talking about or being hetero makes me a modern marquis de sade
>tfw my tongue will be removed because im too stubborn to comply
its all about fair rights until it comes to mine
at what point can we evoke our duty to disobey unjust laws?
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Aboriginal Organization here, i decide to now rebel with Peterson. Will consider attacking this bill because the liberals are not inclusive enough in the most accurate possible definition of gender, which also includes my sovereign interpretation of two-spirited people

12D chess bro
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>>126103272
Do you honestly think at this point that it matters? No conservative will DARE repeal this. Not one of them has the man parts to stand up to the snowflakes.
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>>126091110
Do you live in Igloos after Dong Lee buys up all nearby homes?
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>>126103763
>not playing 1488D chess
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>>126095407
>>126095839
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>>126103272
Already joined the conservatives and voted for him in the leadership election. my conscience is clear
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>>126093557
there's nothing we can do
they made it near impossible to get guns. media is biased to their cause. most canadians are brainwashed so it's impossible to get support. there's no money for the average joe to finance a true counterargument.
id do more if I could, bong
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>>126093557
:(
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>>126103763
Please, please force them to pass legislation defining two-spirited. That will set the precedent for legislation defining each and every one of the six gorillion gender identities. I want parliament to do nothing but bicker over what queer androgyne post-femme demi-butch non-binary intergender quasi-homo multisex means.
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>>126095682
Why do you think Dem's want Trump out so bad? Their ultimate goal is to completely rewrite the Consititution to their will. The left hates freedom more than anything because they can't control it.
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>>126104025
>there's nothing we can do
You can do what I'm doing: leaving.
Take your wealth, your productivity, and your ingenuity and just get the fuck out.
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>>126103979

>voted for Bernier
>my conscience is clear

Shame on you
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>>126103811
Have faith in Mad Max.
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>>126103365
SHART
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>>126093557
What's the problem?
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>>126104419
yep
that's about the size of it
my wife and I are seriously considering leaving. it's a question of destination and how to make it happen logistically
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>>126104680
I stand corrected
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>>126104610

That's just because Bernier hates law in general
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BERNIE WILL MCGA
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>>126104610
>We must protect minority groups against hate and discrimination
No you must not.
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>>126104844

For the Chinese
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>>126104896
We don't want to become a Trump shithole like the USA.
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>>126104896
>not realizing that by the time Mad Max gets into power, whites will be a minority
It's Mad Dimensional Chess, lad.
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>>126104610
The absolute fucking

MADLAD
A
D
L
A
D
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Battle stations boys JP Army on deck
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>>126090626
They hate us so they humiliate us.

They will not win.
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he's nervous as shit
or shaking like that a normal thing for him

is he just a Beta after all?
Some kind of roedent?
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>>126090538

sounds like his lawyer friend had common sense too. The fact that this bill passed means Canada has fallen.
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>>126104260
No, I'm going to ironically go against it as an aboriginal organization in Toronto, I like having unpopular opinions, i'm not going to shill for the fucking government and assholes like everyone else because I know my government has a grudge against me and im not going to sell out to appeal to the popular diversity card like most are , forget that
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>>126105854
Daily reminder your awoos have been hijacked to declare my own sovereign territory and society in Toronto, to ultimately create outer haven, from metal gear solid
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>>126090538
at the start of the clip one senator refers to him as 'Mr' Peterson... then 19 minutes in another refers to him a few times as 'Dr' Peterson...

his correct title is 'Professor' not 'Mr' or 'Dr'

yet this legislation is partly about people using the correct title... in this case these aren't made up/self appointed titles but ones that he's earned
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>>126106080
we were played like a haram harmonica!
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>>126105689
Not a psych but I think he has some kind of bipolar thing going on.. If you watch all of his lectures on maps of meaning or personality, he has noticeable on and off days. Some lectures he's passionate, dynamic, etc. Others, it seems like he struggles to get words out.
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>>126106144
He has a PhD. Is he not both a Professor and a doctor?
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>>126090538
So Dr. Peterson is going to jail?
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Did leafs really make tumblr otherkin genders into law? There is no research backing any of it up. It's 100% fairy tale.

Explain yourselves.
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>>126106388

when you're appointed as a professor it is your formal title

Professor > Doctor

Doctor merely means you've got a PhD (or other doctorate or you're a medic using it as a courtesy title)

Professor is an academic appointment that not all Drs will achieve
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>>126106742
I don't think they understood the scope of it. They're retarded. I'm sure they mean to protect transgenders without realizing that people make up their own genders and shit and are crazier than they anticipated. Going to jail for not saying zhe? what the fuck.
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>>126104468
who else should I have voted for? tell me, I'm genuinely curious
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>>126090538
holy shit dude, Peterson must have an IQ of like 140, dude makes up sentences on teh fly that go way over people's head.

fucking kek when that tranny in the back was shaking her head though, lmao
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>>126106864
should also add that not all 'professors' actually have doctorates - though few in number these exceptions exist
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>>126106996

Nobody because there are no good candidates for any party
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>>126106742
Just like there is no evidence that affirmative action is effective in the increasing the academic performance of minorities.

Both of our countries have retarded laws, don't act like you are somehow any different.
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>>126107062
then what do you propose we do to fight this? there's nothing else we can do
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>>126107198
>>126106929

So basically your government is controlled by SJW cultists bent on championing a religion that hates straight white people?

Leafs need to arm themselves.
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Anyways it's too late for all leftist shills using the idealism of these laws to gaurentee an authoritarian future. I withdrawal all my support from leftist causes and declare them potential traitors who must be subject to investigation.

Now I officially side with the Peterson alliance, by a declaration that I have already committed myself to developing political commercial ads for my political campaigns class, for the conservatives.

Expect references to the liberal party, in contrast to soylent green, and the twilight zone, in ultimate hilarity that will make Canadian politics number one !

MWHAHAHAHAAHAH !
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>>126107335

Well there's some hope in provincial politics for us. It's probably best not to vote in federal elections. On the other hand though, Bernier would probably be significantly more harmful than Trudeau so I might vote against Bernier if he has a chance (which I doubt)
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>>126107371
Luckily a lot of our police are females and minority manlets. I'm not too worried tbqh senpai.
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>>126092907
>it's funny, during the election we had all the lefties and socialists saying they would move to canada if trump won
god how I wish they actually kept their word
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>>126092519
>third parties not involved in the alleged offences may nonetheless file complaints
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Why won't I move to Canada?
Because they're fucking retarded.
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>>126107575
well BC just narrowly avoided an NDP takeover, but I don't see much of a future for right wing politicians in this province, seeing the state of mind of most of my peers
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>justcanadianthings
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>>126106742
It is because Trudope is a SJW loving cuck who is doing all this for votes and only hears 1 side of it without thinking about the rest of it. Sure, he was doing it to protect 1% of the population, but there are people with Gender Dysphoria who havent do it and they can make up whatever Gender they want.

This guy sums it up
>>126106929
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Have you ever wondered if far Right, Authoritarian, waiting in the wings regimes are just using the cry baby Left to push Laws that can be used to totally gut them when the pendulum swings back to the Right? Which it surely will, the way things are being pushed and the idiot Left will realize too late, wrapped in the webs of their own making, that they were just the useful idiots being used to make the rope that's now around their neck and push once centrist, mostly tolerant people to cheer when it tightens and the bottom drops out.
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>>126107856
Says the degenerate American that's Canada's geographical toilet
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>>126107885

But isn't Liberal vs. NDP in B.C. basically an implicit race war or something? Just take control of immigration like we did and the fuckups of the federal government won't hurt you as much
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Yo Canada anons - this law is the perfect set up for some top tier trolling. All you attack helicopters out there better start demanding some helicopter pronouns and threatening legal action if denied.
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>>126107957
>Which it surely will
you clearly have never met any young canadians...
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>>126107198
Affirmative actions are in full effect in cucknada as well though.
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>>126093529
illegal to refuse to have sex with a tran on the basis of being heterosexual
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>>126107957
shut up
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>>126108164
I am aware of that, however it would likely not have existed here if it was rejected in the US.
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>>126108177
>>126108079

>literal thought police

This is making me rage too fucking hard. In a desperate race to be not American, leafs went full retard.
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>>126093662
maybe this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2016/10/07/a-university-told-students-to-select-their-gender-pronouns-one-chose-his-majesty/
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>>126108548
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>>126108104
Actually I have and the ones I know are extremely conservative. I was shocked to hear one of them say nigger (hard "r"), unironically, out loud, and at work. Then again, they're here now, so maybe they're fleeing Canada's future re-education camps for heterosexual, non-muslim whitey
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>>126107993
No, NDP is backed by cucked gibsmedat white drug users and teachers and their brainwashed students, the liberals are backed by Indians and chinks and whatever other white people that are left
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>>126090538
Thought this was about a real Senate for a sec lol
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>>126105119
>Gets arrested for wrongthink
>"Haha at least we don't have Donald Trump
>Gets thrown in jail for misgendering a proud demi-sexual glitterkin
>"Haha at least we don't Donal Drumpf
>Gets sodomized in prison by a silverback gorilla that identifies as a human
>"Haha you mad Blumpfkins! BTFO Canada number 1"
>Dies of AIDS
>Tombstone reads: "Proud Canadian, died knowing he didn't live in the US, emphatic about his liberal leanings and tolerance towards others"
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>>126108674
I've never met a Canadian, let alone a young one that would say that. But then again I'm from BC
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>>126093272
That would be an awkward conversation to have at the tribunal.
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>>126108787

But didn't your Liberals want to tax chink homeowners?

>>126108674
>>126108941

It depends where you're working. Universities are shit places to be because the atmosphere is so suffocating now, but if you work in more blue-collar type things, I've seen people say "I hate Arabs" just casually. I've been in both types of place and the difference is pretty big
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>>126109306
>But didn't your Liberals want to tax chink homeowners?
only the ones that live in China and build empty Apartment buildings as an investment
>It depends where you're working. Universities are shit places to be because the atmosphere is so suffocating now, but if you work in more blue-collar type things, I've seen people say "I hate Arabs" just casually. I've been in both types of place and the difference is pretty big
Funny enough the only (partially) redpilled young people I've met have been two egyptians, lebanese, and half chink half italian
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>>126105689
>>126106243
he's just got chronic depression and is getting old
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>>126090538
You leafs have gone fucking insane. This is one of the most grotesque violations of individual liberties i have ever seen. Day of the rake cant come soon enough.
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>>126109951
It has to be a pretty crushing burden being the only sane voice in the mental asylum of Canadian academia.
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>>126110137
this
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>>126110069
please nuke us, america
fire away
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>>126109864

They have to go back.

>not south pls
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>>126107913
Canada: the polite dystopia
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>>126110414
I'm half mexican myself, and I've been thinking of going to live with my family down there just to escape this madness desu
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>>126096045
>Usher of the Black Rod
blakced
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Not using your damn pronouns
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>>126109864

I'm sure there are more "redpilled" people than you realise. Like recently the French-from-France immigrant wife of this friend of mine mentioned how "Hitler was the only one who really threatened the Jewish financial system" in a conversation I was having with them. I was pretty surprised desu, but I don't like Hitler myself
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>>126105333
>>126105377
>No one even checks the digits anymore
Truly, Kek will punish you fools.
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>>126110966
I wouldn't be surprised, but people are too scared to speak out for fear of losing their jobs, harassment, doxxing etc
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>>126111097
re
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Richard Warman must be masturbating furiously rn.
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>Mfw it doesn't happen in French because leftists would need to rebuild the whole language from scratch
How does it feel to be an anglocuck with a non-patriarchal language?
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>>126090538
This will be of no effect. The danger of even encountering a trans person is virtually zero outside of universities. When this blows over it will be in some click bait article titled "10 weird canadian laws you've never heard of!!"

Also, the social justice tribunals have literally no real punitive power. They handle the landlord/tenant board and both Landlord's and Tenants get away with the most asinine shit you could imagine. The fines they charge you with are voluntary and only a cuck would pay them.
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>>126110719

Tbh I'm half-French (Canadian) and half-English (Canadian) but I probably won't marry an English girl because Anglo Canada doesn't have much of a future as I see it. So I can understand why you'd think that way
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>>126111128

People tend to be more open in personal situations I find, at least here
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>>126091110
*breathes in*
HHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHAH Alaska's size doesn't make any fucking sense AHAHAHHA
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>>126111773
I'm just worried that with mexico rapidly developing (they're on their way to first world status despite what you hear on pol) our social justice shit is going to start happening down there too
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>>126111663
I encountered a trans salesperson when shopping at the Winners in Collingwood. Looked like Columbo wearing a wig and a dress. Terrible five o'clock shadow. Creepy as hell.

Sure it's rare but you could encounter such a snowflake anywhere, and if you don't actively play along in their sexual fetish of pretending to be a woman you could now be charged and ruined for life.
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>>126111851
very true
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>>126112131

I don't think so. Spanish is more like French in that the language itself is gendered and you can't change that, like >>126111646 says

Latin America and Latin stuff is pretty cool anyway and I don't share /pol/'s opinion on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcUxrpIwuQ4
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>>126111646

Real reason it doesn't happen in French is because you refer to everyone, male, female, trans, old, young, gay as "toé"

You are the most inclusive.
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Fun fact

That "gay refugee" from Ghana was officially granted asylum. Canada has officially opened the floodgates
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>>126112579

We pronounce it as "toi" actually. Not our fault that Parisians from "Fronce" pronounce it as "tou-ah."
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>>126112671
I am quite certain that allowing every gay in Africa to come here and squat in a Montreal ghetto won't have any effect on our AIDS statistics at all.
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people you are missing the beauty of this. This won't be used by crossdressers, this will be used by the eager feminists and virtue signalers. People on campuses will be ousted for improper thinking, and they'll be held to it by the legal system. If someone refuses to pursue legal action in the classroom, they'll be an accomplice to the charged. This will be used to hang the stubborn professors and teachers, people in office, etc. And it won't even be LGBTQ2SY and Z pulling the trigger half the time.
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>>126112886
Oh he also claims he's actually bisexual. So don't expect him to be seen with guys

And he has no fingers so don't expect him to ever have a job
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>>126090756
I would love for this to be true, but its just too abharent to be truth spoken from his mouth

not even our politicians back then were that open against immigration, and this is coming from a 5th generation canadian
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>>126112717

I've always heard it as "toé" and not "toi". Maybe "Twé" is more accurate?
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>implying males who identify as female want to be called xir or xor instead of she
It's only the mentally retarded people who identify as dragons and apache helicopters who care about these pronouns
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>>126113087
http://activehistory.ca/2015/01/john-a-macdonalds-aryan-canada-aboriginal-genocide-and-chinese-exclusion/

http://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/was-john-a-macdonald-a-white-supremacist/

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/sure-john-a-macdonald-was-was-a-racist-colonizer-and-misogynist-but-so-were-most-canadians-back-then

http://www.timescolonist.com/news/commentary-john-a-macdonald-s-white-supremacist-views-were-shocking-even-by-the-standards-of-his-time-1.21570
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>>126113049
>he has no fingers
So he was caught stealing and the village he lived in cut his fingers?
Allowing literal criminals into your country as refugees
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>>126113208

I'm basically just saying that there's no reason to imply that we pronounce it differently than we should
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so it's now considered a hate crime to make a joke about someones gender identity on social media.

can't wait to see all those people tweeting about CIS white males get thrown in jail for hate crimes..

oh wait, it probably wont apply to that gender identity..
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>>126104777

Australia - WE NEED MORE WHITES WHO AREN'T FUCKED IN THE HEAD!
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>>126104265
pjw is that you?
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>>126103607
"Cis" is not a real gender identity.
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>>126091110
this is a total lie

kys leaf
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>>126113049
>And he has no fingers
You are now aware that the Canadian tax payer will have to pay someone to wipe this useless nigger faggot's bum for the rest of his life because a bunch of rich liberals in parliament wanted to show each other how virtuous they are.
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>>126090538
Peterson said he'd go on a hunger strike if he gets put in jail.

What will you do?
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>>126115065
did he really say that? where at?
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>>126092567
This faggot.
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>>126115190
at an interview on tv.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kasiov0ytEc
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>>126092525
that explains why he looks like he's ready to surrender
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>>126115065
Actual hunger or a Theresa Spence hunger strike where she ate stuff.
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>>126115277
oh, ive been meaning to watch that. interesting. it probably wouldnt be too much of a bother considering the diet he has to be on for his depression
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>>126115331
Peterson doesn't seem like a man for half-measures.
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He should just apply for American citizenship. Canada is a lost cause.
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>>126090538
>I'm a free speech guy

NO YOU ARE NOT A FUCKING "FREE SPEECH GUY" IF YOU ARE WILLING TO COMPROMISE ON FREE SPEECH

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST I HATE YOUR PIECE OF SHIT NATION
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>>126098021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb1WUVAtseU
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did it actually pass? please tell me this is a lie

nobody wanted this fucking bill
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>>126090538
4chan still say I look like a robot. Shouldn't this be illegal by now?
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>>126092525
May 1992, he was demoted to private and served 45 days in an Edmonton military prison for cocaine use.

Sounds about right
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>>126090538
one step closer to the day of the rake
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>>126093557
>lmao
bro you can't even own a plastic knife
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>>126090538
>Peterson: Okay, so let's assume that [identity] is changing and contextual.
>French faggot: Yes.
>Peterson: Then why is conversion therapy a problem?

I will never not be amazed at this man's ability to drop fucking intellectual nukes.
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>>126116775
>b-b-b-but the trannypocalypse is coming down on you stupid leaf
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ITT: Anglos finding out that language can be politicised, regulated, enforced.

Not very nice, is it.
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>>126108104
I'm 19 and most of the kids I know are anti-PC and anti-SJW. They're not very political overall but the groundwork is there.
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>>126117210
huh, never heard of that, pretty fucked. ill have to look that up
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>>126090538
>Video opens with pretentious violin melody
Leafs only know the form of state, not the function.
A nation of middle schoolers playing at being a country.
And I would know.
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>>126092567
>Where did it all go so wrong /pol/?

Around 1968.
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>>126117359
based america
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>>126091110
That doesn't seem right. Is that true?
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>>126118273
100 and 10 percent.
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>>126103901
>>not playing 1488D chess

Keep your 88, Hans. We play 4D lacrosse in Canada.
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>>126104419
>>126104777
>it's a question of destination
Where the fuck are green leaves going to go? Where? Can you name even one place that is somehow better than where you are now?
Wealth an ingenuity? Enjoy your stay in Vladivostok retards.
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>>126110966
>I was pretty surprised desu, but I don't like Hitler myself

National Socialism has no place. It was particular to German, with their history of authoritarian government. We have and need British institutions. The parliamentary government and English common law.
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In English, when speaking to a person in the second person, it's incorrect to use pronouns to refer to the second person. You'd say, "How are you?" and not, "How is he" for instance.

Therefore, anyone arguing that others must use specific pronouns when referring to themselves seems extremely self-absorbed to me. They're attempting to regulate conversations that they're not even involved in.

Its like saying call me by X, even though I'm not around to hear it. Am I right?
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>>126118136
hey fuck you buddy
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>>126091110
HUUGGEEEEEEEEEE
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>>126119328

French civil law > English common law
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>>126119328
Looks like it's working well for you guys.
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>>126090538
I just can't wait for when one of the supporters of the bill and the surrounding legislation faces backlash for accidentally "misgendering" someone. Or when a doctor faces backlash for labeling a woman with a feminine penis as male in paperwork. Or when a biologist faces backlash for only mentioning male/female in his study. But most importantly I can't wait for some /pol/ack to attempt to press charges when people refuse to call him by his chosen pronoun of "kike," or "nig-her," or "Hitler did nothing wrong-er," or whatever else.
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>>126119178
I'm a dual citizen US/Canadian, I've been considering Colorado for ages now. Just gotta pin down the gf for keeps and I'm there
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>>126119743
>the government gives you rights, anything not granted is ding dong bannu

better than
>You can do everything unless it's explicitly banned

wew lad
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>>126090538
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>>126092798
>>126092139
We. Fucking. Hate. You.

Based? You got your asses handed to you when we came and then you cried about keeping your culture of you tried to subjugate the natives into Christanity and force them to speak only French.

Fuck you, you whiney double standards sacks of shit. Die. KYS. Please just jump in the St Lawrence.

Fucking hate canadian french filth. God Damn.
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>>126120134
>>You can do everything unless it's explicitly banned

The creation of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms set everything up for what is happening today. Forgetting about English Common Law and creating new charters based on U.N. shit was a mistake.
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>>126119976
It's cute that you think the law is going to be applied consistently in an unbiased manner and not just used as a club to silence any opposition to neo-Marxism.
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>>126115690
> nobody wanted this fucking bill
The Media wanted it.
Inkpots get what they want or they spill!
Leafs obey Inkpots like everybody else.
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>>126101968
>live your flight plan to the fullest
nice one kraut
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>>126120134

No, it's more

>making laws based on a code

vs

>letting some judge cuck your laws up because he feels like it
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>>126090538
Since when has the senate ever voted any differently?
We've been trying to abolish the senate for like 10+ years now but nobody will retire.
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>>126120477
When the press starts supporting the suppression of freedom of speech, you know that all the journalists have been replaced by les collaborateurs.
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>>126119489
To be fair, (to my understanding) the bill itself doesn't mention pronoun usage; it just makes "gender identity" and "gender expression" categories protected from discrimination. The problem is that what does and doesn't constitute as a violation of this protection is essentially left up to the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal, which has stated that they would rule usage of incorrect pronouns as a violation. It seems that the fundamental problem with this bill basically that it makes "gender identity" protected against discrimination but doesn't actually define what constitutes discrimination, but rather leaves that up to a group that is ignorant/oppressive/idiotic/whatever. Canadians please correct me if I'm wrong about this, but that is my basic understanding.
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>>126092519
>Truth is not a defence

This is your cue to start dragging politicians screaming into the streets.
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>>126090538
>go to a Service Ontario building today to renew health card
>as I'm reading the list of what is on which floor I see

>>>>Social Justice Tribunal - Floor 3

wew lad. What a shitshow this place is.
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>>126092519
>all that fuck you to the common man
Well, Canada, it was nice having a hat. Too bad you will be culled to make way for New Turkey, and hence will become merely a giant radioactive crater in the middle of the ocean
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>>126120407
That's why I said "attempt." If someone tries to do what I described they'd obviously fail spectacularly, but I'm sure someone will, and I can't wait to see the headlines when they do.
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>>126107012
I have an IQ of 140.
Peterson is much brighter than I am...
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>Don't you think it'd be hurtful, Dr Peterson
>It'd hurt people's feelings
>Thats why they should be able to call the police, fine you and possibly send you to jail for not saying zir.

Fuck leafs. Thank god Peterson shut him down so succinctly
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Bros what does this mean? Just never talk to himshees? This is a fucking nightmare. I don't go out of my way to be rude to people but the implications of all this is terrifying
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>>126121316
And all those fucking fat men in dresses in the peanut gallery, they're probably hard thinking about all the attention they're getting.
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>>126121361
Just don't talk to trannies. It's not worth it lad.
>that should make life better for them!
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>>126121361
do what i do and dont speak to anyone and constantly stay in your head, you'll be safe!
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>>126121361
Not like it's that difficult to begin with. They're a tiny fraction of the population and now they'll be even more ostracized than before.
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>>126113049
I think if someone is going to claim asylum for being gay they should
have to prove it by publicly fucking another man or even a series of men.
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>>126115194
This.

He also did it behind the Queen's back, in her fucking palace. (pic) I'm glad he got B E A N E D by Castro.

Quebec should be gassed for the politicians she has spawned and turned into a giant national forest.
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