ITS HAPPENING CHINESE INSURER WARNS OF MASSIVE DEFAULTS AND UNREST

>>126073228
bump

china about to short dick us

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Is it 2008 again?

for china or for usa

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What a time to be alive. It's all coming together.

Transplants leaving Florida en masse again when??

>>126074333
china over 13 trillion yuan is at stake of a ponzi scheme by evil china men, im not joking either

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>>126073228
These digits say that you could have stopped it.

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>>126073228
No shit.

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>mfw can't into economics

What's this mean?

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C-China will g-grow larger??

Bumping for Seth

YOU FUCKING CHINESE FAGGOTS YOU COULD HAVE STOPPED THIS STYX TRIED TO WARN YOU!

CHINA IS A DECK OF CARDS WITH NO SUPPORT!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uyLCvdd-YUc

Are WMPs the same as subprime mortgages or wat

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>>126074877
Hhhm... A vewy good pran!

>>126074877
China has been generous.

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>>126073228
The article said that if regulators give the insurers more leeway then a catastrophe could be avoided. What is the likelihood of the Chinese deregulating more?

And how many times have we been told China is going to collapse?

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>>126075408
We will live in prosperity!

>>126075514
a high high chance, china is not honest at all in anything, some moron will fuck the entire thing up and crash everything like that bank, the workers stole the jewelry and money for themselves

>>126075175
HOW DOES HE DO IT?!

is it because he channels occult magic?

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ugh

such is the tide of nature

>>126075693
HE IS THE CHOSEN ONE HE JUST NEEDS TO GET PAST HIS CIVIC NATIONALISM

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We need to let Kek know that we want china to collapse. It's gonna be a massive shit show.

>>126075573
The Ecommunist says that its going to crash every other month or so, but it never does. This is probably to scare Chinese investors into buying more into pseudo-Western banking schemes like HSBC.

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>millions of Chinese refugees flee to america
>/pol/ autist defend them because they're "traditionalist" and not like the black/Muslims/Hispanics

>>126073228
>Unironically thinking this

>>126073228
self bump

>>126073228
Bump for limitless suffering

self bump

>>126080410

China's going to collapse, any day now. Like the last 3650 times.

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>>126073228
This will be worse than 2008.
This will be the Big One.
Ron Paul, Martin Armstrong, and other voices have been warning us.
pic very related.
It's why the elites want WWIII so bad. They need an external enemy so the people don't come after them with pitch forks.

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>>126074408
>Whiterose is a hacker affiliated with the Dark Army. Xe is a Chinese transgender woman with an obsession for managing xyr time. When xe and Elliot Alderson

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>>126073228
Surely now China will collapse.

>>126073228
I work in Finance. We've known about a credit bubble in China for years now. The chinese banks have been selling wealth management products that are essentially derivatives to different things like commodities or an index etc... they payoff the old products with new product sales. It works just like a ponzi scheme. Of course this shit was going to blow up.

>>126074782
It means the US treasury could get wrecked as china dumps all the US debt it holds into the market to bail itself out. China may start slashing its currency. Also expect most commodities and materials prices to plunge except for precious metals will probably be ok.

>>126075297
They're derivatives but they problem is how popular they are, how shittily they are sold with the bankers telling people they basically can't go down and the fact that they are paying off old ones with the sales of new ones like a ponzi scheme. This has been going on for years. I think I first read about this in Grant's in 2015.

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>>126073228

THE STAR WILL GORGE ITSELF ON CLAY.

CHINA EATS DIRT!

>>126086673
whats gonna happen with chinas new gold backed yuan?

October 2016 Sharia law is changed for Muslims to purchase gold as a commodity.

December 2016, China begins purchasing 20 tons of gold per month.

December 2016 China opens gold clearing banks in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE and Bahrain.

January 2017 Russia begins moving currency back onto gold standard

January 2017 China begins moving currency back onto gold standard

March 2017 George Soros enters gold bull market.

April 2017 US market posts huge gains and spikes that represent an eventual plunge.

Buckle up boyos.

China is going to try and curtail crypto currencies and get ahead of the curve.

>>126073228
this is china stepping up economic war since their media subversion is failing

too many people questioned the russia narrative in america

too many people dont want war with north korea

washington and california and chicago and new york were supposed to be enough

with the Clintons in their pocket it would have been

now the whole fucker has gone off the rails with Trump fucking them every single way

isnt that right shill fuckers? hows that money laundered chinese money taste

tick tock tick tock mother fuckers

those laptops are full of chinese subversion evidence

what happens when america pulls all electronics manufacturing out of asia due to concerns over your hijacking?

this shits all going down and trump is going to land this shitty plane the best he can

dont blame him, this 20t ponzi debt scheme was on purpose but the fuckers in britain and israel wont every convince america to go on the gold standard

get fucked commies and zionists

America forever

>>126087232
China has either been lying about their current gold reserve or they've been lying about how they are obtaining it. They've been saying they are mining it in china, but when you look at the speed their reserve increased versus the actual speed it can be mined it's impossible they have done it all themselves. which means they've either purchased it off the open market or are lying. I've heard stories that chinese miners have been told to purchase the gold off of global markets and pretend like they mined it so that might be the case.

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>>126087574

At least if we go to war with russia trump will have all the power in the world to crush the deep state after he uses them up

r-right guys?

>>126087574
i see you are in the know

its time for the greenbacks to come back

fuck the rothchilds and their commodity based jewopoly currencies

>>126088086
>china whoops

>>126088135
I bought silver, im too poor to afford the gold.

>>126087574
china own alls crypto dumbass, china, jews and some neets in that order

>>126087989
spread this far and wide

gold is a fucking trap presented as a solution

the fucking kikes have a monopoly at it via the bank of england

america loses on the gold standard

nixon tried to builid on JFK's work to get us on the Greenback standard again but was Impeached

its on fuckers. anyone pushing gold is an obvious shill for the rothchilds who own the gold monopoly like the debeers own the diamond monopoly

>>126073228
good thing they have a centrally managed economy to make sure this doesn't happen

>>126087574

>March 2017 George Soros enters gold bull market.

Do you Know About George Soros and the Romanian gold mine conflict right now?

>>126087574
>March 2017 George Soros enters gold bull market.
He started buying gold in 2016, OFFICIALLY. Which basically means he started buying gold at least 6 months earlier. So, he started buying gold in late 2015.

But yeah, honestly. If China wants to enter the world stage for real and get just as much influence as UK or USA. A world-wide recession is the way to go.
Won't happen until 2018 or later though.

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If only we listened when it actually mattered

I JUSTGRADUATED COLLEGE GOD FUCKING DAMNIT
>WE DIDNT LISTEN

>>126075917
Trump wins every time

>>126088638
Im still in my first year of college

>monthly china will collapse thread
why is whitey so scared of big china cock

>>126088471

Also..

people talk about Lundered money but never eleborate on wher ehte money comes from..


ITS ABOUT THE DRUGS, HUMANS AND WEAPONS AND ORGANS STUPID!!!!

AND JUST ABOUT EVERYONE IS IN ON IT!!!!

>>126088508
couldnt stop this momentum

the biggest thing foreigners need to fucking do is rebel against your leadership that is anti Trump

America gave you a way out by rebelling unlike the rest of you fuckers

If you guys government colludes against Trump, consider it a world war with us fighting your fucking "international relief agencies"

>>126073228
>Can economics anon give me a run down on what this means?
t.Word anon is not good with numbers

>>126088638
yeah, well i graduated in 2010, it was a barrel of monkeys. fuckin' buckle up, kiddo

>>126073228
(((insurance)))

All insurance should be state run.

We need a massive happening to change the world.

>>126088274
Silver is likely to go up faster than gold from a slowdown in china anyway. 70% of silver is mined as an adjunct to industrial metals. Only 30% comes from mines that are solely designed for silver. China is the largest user of industrial metals in the world. As the prices for industrial metals like iron copper etc... fall the production from those mines will fall as well which will lower the production of silver of which demand could be higher because of the looming economic problems. Silver will have supply shrink while demand increases. Gold will only have demand increase. The rate at which it's being mined will probably stay the same or increase slightly.

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>>126073228
Did you know Rome fell because of financial issues? The Western world will fall the same way as Rome.

Asian masculinity btfo again. Your women are ours

>>126088808
america has been at war with britain since its founding

specifically, the city of london and the royal family

these fuckers have destroyed every attempt at setting up and American bank till the Civil War

During the Civil War America finally broke free like Hitler did later

In the end the fuckers reasserted control in both cases

America must go to war against Britain and their children Israel and China

Russia is our greatest ally in this but America must learn that Zionist USSR is not Russia.

>>126088787
Unlike Trump we (Norway) actually have an Alt-right anti-globalist, anti-jew candidate, who also happens to be a libertarian. The only two noticeable things he has done so far is to talk favourably about Trump and shit about jews and circumcison. Scrolling through his twitter and you see that he is anti-gay and cultural nationalistic, and not r_the_donald cuck nationalistic.
https://twitter.com/lysglimt/

>>126088808
chink-kikes getting called out by king chink for running a pyramid scheme bank
chink-kikes not happy, threaten to nuke system into a recession

>>126089458
Trump is not what you think.

You have to be old to remember his 2000 run.

If that candidate pushs gold, you have a wolf in sheeps clothing.

>>126082680
Wouldn't the jews get genocided for realsies in WWIII though?

>>126089526
Sounds about normal carry on gook kikes

>>126089008
financial issues from taking on too many darkies

makes u think

>Zerohedge

but doesn't stuff happen on there eeryday? the world is ending when you go to that site regardless which day it is.

so what makes this truly "happening"?

>>126073228
i honestly doubt china could cause a global financial meltdown. The center of the world is America; not China.

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>>126087073

>>126089526
perfectly said.

The bolsheviks fled to China and setup their new Ponzi schemes there.

Chinese are as much a hostage as America.

Only the British seem to be willing participants with their love of their fucking royal family.

The rest of the World has been lied to about Americans being complacent and loving Israel.

We want Britain and its fucking children the CIA and Israel to get the fuck out of our Republic.

Its no coincidence that the Federal Reserve was setup by JP Morgan, a literal British fucking agent against us.

The whole make fun of other white people originates from fucking Britain

Here is the evidence

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/us-government-pentagon-fake-al-qaeda-propganda-videos-a7348371.html

Our money is being laundered to Britain to attack us and the rest of the world except Israel

>>126088471
Small details, can you enlighten me?

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>>126087574
What if I own 2 Kilograms of bitcoins

>>126089756
Its not America. Thats a lie.

Its the City of London.

New York is a colony of the City of London.

Or havent you ever wondered why each state in the US doesn't have its own stock exchange?

>>126074517
>>126073228
i knew this was coming

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>>126089586
I am well aware of Trump's 2000 campaign, but for me it doesn't matter what he said 17 years ago when what he does today has so far been disappointing. He hasn't shot down any Russian planes so I am content (unlike what Hillary would have done.
Lysglimt, on the other hand, is what he has always been, a Ron Paul tier libertarian. His past shows quite well what kind of guy he is, an honest one. What he says today is not too different from what he said 8 years ago, and what he has been doing supports the view of him being at least somewhat honest

>>126088014
They are probally getting it from Africa.

>>126074408

>everything's falling apart
>"it's all coming together."

????

>>126087989

maga

>>126090603
New to /pol/? We have been wishing for 'the real habbs' since years back.

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China built enough housing for 3 billion people more than twice its(rapidly aging) population, this is the 2006 real estate bubble x10

Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are going down with the ship, America still has hope because they actually diversified their economy

>>126090819
Since 2008 they went on a fucking debt binge unseen in history, just building shit constantly with no demand, the entire chinese economy is a ponzi meme scheme

>>126074517
13 trillion? Is that a lot? Trying to understand GDPs is like trying to understand the scale of galaxies to me.

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>>126076417
>MFW there are probably honorary Aryans in Idaho in an Aryan Nation compound as we speak.

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Communist revolution in America soon, comrades.

>>126089008
the old diluting gold content trick

by the 4th century

roman coins were about 80% nickel

>>126091105
thats probably 90 percent of chinas gdp right now if that 13 trillion doesnt come back, china could fucking die

>>126091105
Yes the bond market is supposedly only 80 trillion. The entirety of US debt is 20 trillion.

>>126091105
thats not their GDP

its their exposure to risk

and its disastrous

>>126073228
God, I missed economic doomposting.

>>126090951
Exactly, they've had a shit ton of money flood into economy that is already shitty at efficiently allocating resources to begin with. It's like the roaring 20s in china and we are about to witness the chinese great depression.

>>126088493
It has to happen when the meme impeachment shit stops. It has to without a doubt pinnable on Trump.
Right now the bubble is being pumped.

The fictional story of China I often read is that of 7% annual GDP growth, fast rising wages, and growing middle class consumerism underpinning so many corporations growth and revenue estimates. However, the non-fiction reality is a different story all together. That of Chinese credit growth quadrupling since '07 as the primary trigger for the doubling of wages and tripling of GDP over that period.

A quick review from 2000 should help offer some perspective:

>00-->'07 global credit grew $55 T (China was up $5 T or 9% of the global total). Chinese core pop grew by 120 million (9.5% increase vs. China's '00 total population). China wages rose 2.3x's, GDP 2.9x's. China represented 30% of global growth in oil consumption.
>08-->'14 global credit grew $57 T (China credit grew by $21 T or 37% of global credit growth). China's core population rose 42 million (3% increase vs. China total '08 population). China wages rose 2x's, GDP 2.9x's. China represented 56% of global growth in oil consumption.
>15-->'21 China's core population will fall an est. <-11m> (or a -1% decline vs. China total population and the decline will only accelerate thereafter).

To maintain China's GDP and wage growth in the '15-->'21 period, particularly as global exports are decelerating and China's core population is shrinking, China will likely need to quadruple its credit base again. This would be no easy fete as this would equate to an increase of $84 trillion or $12 trillion a year!

>>126090103

Wiki is a good start

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ro%C8%99ia_Montan%C4%83_Project

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Hey guys... is this a prepper-level happening where shit really hits the fan? asking for a friend

>>126091354
Hold off until I get my pilots license. Free Helicopter rides.

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The gazillion dollar question is if China's core population is sure to decline, and China credit isn't likely to quadruple again (again, that would be $84 t or $12 trillion/yr over the next 7 years); how likely is China's wage and GDP growth to maintain its pace over this next 7 year period??? China's rise of oil consumption? China's shopping mall bonanza? China's housing surplus? China's role as pre-eminent driver of global growth...or any growth (period) in China??? Or perhaps contraction is the most likely outcome and the implications for commodities to consumer goods will be decelerations and/or contractions for oil, steel, apple iPhones. You name it and growth of Chinese demand is set to collapse (not necessarily demand itself, but growth in Chinese demand at anything resembling the past 15 years is highly dubious).

Image: Chinese total GDP, total Credit, PPP (Purchasing Power Parity) of per capita earnings, juxtaposed with decelerating annual core (15-64yr/old) population growth. Plainly, credit growth was substituted for decelerating population growth to maintain overall growth.

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>>126073228
ZH never comes through...
Big if true though

How is this a bad thing for America if China fails?

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CHINA'S DEMOGRAPHICS

China's 0-64yr/old population will shrink for decades (chart below)...despite China's politically implemented one child policy, nearly all nations that have moved from high to low birth rates have been unable to revert back to higher birth rates. This is true across the EU where nation upon nation have unsuccessfully offered incentives of all sorts to increase birth rates. The story in Asia is the same in Japan, Taiwan, S. Korea, and China all seeing significantly negative birth rates...and Asia (incl. India) in total has fallen from 5.8 in 1950 to 2.1 children per female of child bearing age as of 2015...and still falling. China's softening of its one child policy a couple years ago and outright abandonment now are likely to have little, if any, impact on this. And China's net emigration isn't likely to reverse itself...but probably more plausible than birth rates rising significantly.

CHINA'S SHOPPING MALLS

From '14-'16 China is building 65% of all new global retail space...nearly doubling existing shopping mall square meters within China...all while China online shopping is growing by leaps and bounds and China's shopping population is now declining. The same story goes for growth in China skyscrapers, growth in China office space, and massive infrastructure growth for a declining under 65yr/old population?!?

CHINA HOUSING SURPLUS

Again, in a nation faced with decades of a shrinking 0-64yr/old population (representing fewer potential buyers every year)...a massive overhang of 50 to 100 million vacant housing units (primarily high end units) seems about the worst possible scenario.

>>126092089
because we will collapse aswell and drag the world with us

Fuck not again

>>126091799
No. It will be bad though. Definitely a recession in china and maybe some other emerging markets as their economies rely heavily on selling natural resources and china is the largest producer of natural resources. Canada might get fucked too given that their real estate bubble could be attributed to chinese buying tons of real estate in canada. There maybe some additional global fallout as well economically, but it won't be the end.

>>126090795

>nybög kallar mig nybög

nä nu jävlar

>>126073228
Nice.
China's going to collapse

>>126089909
what anime is that?

>>126091866
>he still defends capitalism despite living in its final death stage
For what purpose?

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>>126090058
>Tfw the Anglo still out Jews everyone

Feels good man

>>126073228
I met with my broker last week. JP Morgan Chase is moving to USA centric funds. They see the world burning. They are always on the side of money and they know Americans. We kick ass when we choose to.

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>>126073228
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>>126091951
>b..but my new service economy
Net bullish or bearish for Canada? Asking for a friend.

>>126090446
be careful of honest idiots like ron paul

anyone pushing for the gold standard is a traitor

trumps run and what he said then matters far more than young people think it does

he is a pretty consistent guy

>>126073228
Lmao, can't wait for us to jack up our beef prices to pay for the loans. We may be broke, but china will starve and their government will collapse.

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So how do we become the Jew and profit from all this?

>>126092589
enjoy it while it lasts.

the city of london will fall.

what lincoln and hitler couldnt finish, this generation will.

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>>126092284
timeline?

>>126074081
>short dick US

No friend
We're not living in one of the biggest housing bubbles ever devised in mankind history.

China literally builds cities that have nobody in them.

China's government also lacks the funds at this point to buy all of their assets in the case of a massive collapse.

America is going to eat shit, too. But we would literally see riots and unrest in the streets of Bejing if this bubble pops instead of deflates. As in people-eating-one-another-to-survive anarchy

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>>126073228
And again we will be hit more than everyone else.
Ah well, c'est la vie, back to suffering.

>>126090058
The Federal reserve was literally set up in response to JP Morgan. During the financial crises of 1907s JP Morgan bullied other bankers to bail out the United States banking system which began to fail as a few banks already started to fail. Congress didn't like that a few bankers could have such a large impact on the american economy so they created the Fed so they could have better control over the banking system instead of JP morgan being the one behind the reins. The fed might have grown into a monstrosity since then but it wasnt created by jp morgan.

>>126092840
they dont give a fuck what they eat over there ive seem them eat sludge from the sewers

>>126091460
And us too, since it means we'll never get paid back for the bonds we've lent them.

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>>126093387
that sucks

>>126074227

Potentially January 2016 again

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>>126073228
avg home prices are back at same level as before 08 cash, buckle your seatbelts boys and girls.

>>126093705
So Chinks slashing Yuan again?

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>>126093387
yeah, that really sucks

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I have about $40k in the bank not really doing anything
Should I buy Gold?

>>126093417
What about the Jekyll Island meet?

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>>126073228
Anybody remember the 2015 China stock market threads? I've been fooled once before. How do we know this one is legit?

>>126093161
There isn't one. The signs of these issues have shown up 2 years ago. You can't time this stuff. You can see that someone put a can of gas next to the fire, but you can't figure out which spark is going to set it off.

>>126093886
Buy lead.

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>>126092767
Bearish, Canadians are tapped out with debt there's not much room to continue growth

Just put all your money in a 3x leveraged S&P
500 index fund and hold forever

>>126089909
m- my Cresta.
>>126092366
Great Teacher Onizuka.

>>126089308
Plz no senpai

>>126092797
>he is a pretty consistent guy
4 u

>>126093886
Or you could wait and see if china and the globe really does collapse and then buy everything at basement prices. In a crises sometimes your most valuable asset is liquidity/cash.

>>126073228
China will not make any bold moves until they reach their "10 year goal". They are closer than ever to that number 1 spot.

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>>126093878
>tfw natural selection shall weed out the unadaptables again

>>126092767
Net bearish. bearish for canadian real estate and businesses associated with natural resource production- mining, timber, oil and gas.. Natural resrouces supply a lot of Canada's economy.

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>>126094073
hmm... well the head jew Soros just doubled down on his SPY puts.

follow the jew gold?

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>>126082964

I hate these gooks for buying up Canada, I hope their market crashes and all their rice fields burn.

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>>126074877
i'll make the sacrifice!

>>126088014
Canada sold all thier reserves

>>126094917
Better sell your real estate to them now while it's overpriced. You can buy it back after the collapse for a better price.

let the happening commence, I want to go innawoods

>>126095092
Except our money is going to be fucking worthless.
We have chronic dutch disease.

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>>126094093
>holding a levered instrument long term
You understand that leverage works both ways right?

>>126094669
This sounds reasonable. Just.

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>>126090603
All depends on your perspective(s)

>>126095092
>tfw both of your siblings settled down last year and bought a house
there's no way I can bring myself to tell them it's better to sell

>>126094994
Can I have some shoes?

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>>126094669
We're basically fucked

>manufacturing dead
>housing bubble at peak, 50% of people would have trouble with a $200 emergency bill, interest rates going up most people are "house poor"
>oil industry dead
>mining dead
>lumber industry just had layoffs, will collapse with the housing bubble pop
>200,000 high school graduates, 400,000 college and uni graduates, and 300,000 immigrants arrive every year while job creation is a pathetic 200,000

Canada is probably the only country where white collar professional making 100k a year go to payday loan places

>>126095199
exchange it all into pounds sterling

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>>126093886
Buy ovens

>>126095674
Is the pound stable while Brexit is going on?
I know the Euro is inevitably going to collapse, so you might have a flight for stability in the pound.

A big economic crisis will lead to a civil war in europe at this point

>>126095653
What blows my mind is that the government still talks about stuff like a skilled labour shortage without bursting into laughter. Usually when there's a shortage, the price goes up, meanwhile wages are at best stagnant. I suspect we're right fucked famalam.

>>126095574
I'm sure they will be able to sell it for what they bought it at in a decade or so.

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>>126095653
Trump fucked you guys with the lumber tariff
We're (kinda) sorry

>>126095853
i guess we'll have to wait until we're actually out of the EU to know for sure. or at least until we have negotiated a deal with them

>>126094887
Stanley Druckenmiller who used to work with Soros is a pretty big gold bull right now.

>>126090603
BUY THE DIP

>>126092868
Shorting Chinese stocks is difficult

Wait for it to all come crashing down

Then, during a crisis, buy shit up cheap cheap cheap.

You will need some kind of protection. It'll be like Russia in the 90s. So that's either be part of a big Western corporate with private security or get in with local mob/government (there is little difference now and there will be less difference when the shit hits the fan)

>what I'm gonna do
>not even a Jew

>>126086191
Are you short on anything then?

>>126094887
soros has been making terrible bets on the market crashing for over 2 years now.

>>126086191
Can you tell me how REITs will be affected?

I really want to pull a 3X short on a couple REITs that I think are garbage

>>126096123
honestly that's just your representative doing a good job for your country, and ours doing a shitty one

>>126094022
They are all legit, including this one
Problem in china's government is a little too powerful and have been able to fix things

>>126096765
you dont have access to chinese reits.

In north america nothing will happen

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ITS

FUCKING

HAPPENING

you fags have been saying this shit since 2013

>>126088421
>the fucking kikes have a monopoly at it via the bank of england

the Chinese run the world market on gold, because they will only trade opium for gold, check the exchanges, Hong Kong and singapore have the most physical gold every time

>>126089308
>America must go to war against Britain and their children Israel and China

Israel and Britain are along with Germany and France slave states of Rome, who is China's bitch

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>>126094022
>be chink
>want to draw beautiful girl
>can't find a chinese one
>just draw an average japanese girl

>>126086191
Yes I'm short 5% S&P to hedge equity allocation which is only 30% of the portfolio model. I own gold and silver with about 10% of the portfolio model 1/2 of that exposure is to the bullion through etfs the rest is through specific mining stocks. theres about 25% in bonds the rest is in cash or alternatives. Like market merger arbitrages convertible arbitrage, managed futures, and some call option spreads.

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>>126096919
Ignore all happening threads, especially so if they are linked to "zerohedge".

>>126096946
>the Chinese run the world market on gold
They don't run shit.

They do, however, have way too much influence in Hollywood (go figure) and many of our politicians.

>>126086673
I thought China got rid of most of its US debt sometime in 2012-2015

>>126097129
>>126097129
Meant to respond to

>>126096555

>>126097408
>got rid of 1 trillion $ debt promise
HAHAHAHAHAHAHH

>>126097130

Uh. Happening threads are the best threads.

If you are not here for the happening threads.... I dunno man.. new?

>>126097408
They sold some but still own a lot

http://ticdata.treasury.gov/Publish/mfh.txt

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>>126096694
a broken jew is right twice a year

>>126097588
>happening threads are the best threads
You are the newfag around here, bucko. Take your existential hate + resentment and shove it up your asshole.

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>>126089226
False

I have 80% US stocks, how fucked am I?

>>126097884
Hahaha... that's so cute.

>>126097129
You think I should sell my S&P index fund that I'm up 43%, right?

>>126098079
I just wanted to try out some Peterson lines for once, leaf. Stop laughing at me.

>>126095509
More importantly beta decay will fuck your gains.

By the way, I remember being in China a few years back and hearing various Chinese colleagues and girlfriends of friends telling me about how their families were all investing their money being promised very high returns.

>they all love the concept of interest because it sounds sophisticated as fuck to them, justifies their being penny pinching hoarders and also is money for nothing... basically everything a Chinaman wants from life

I had conversations where I basically said "there's no way you're being offered 8% year on year - you aren't big enough to get that sort of deal" and they insisted, time and again, that that was that they offered. The first 5 or so times I just assumed it was Chinese people lie-bragging like they always do but eventually I was convinced that people are signing these contracts with "financial agents" (i.e. shadow bankers) many of which they have been introduced to - funnily enough - by actual state bank employees to give them legitimacy. "Middle class" Chinese people locking a good chunk of their savings in to "wealth management products". I even knew a few of the dumber expats buying in to it too.
>and hearing some expats say "some people get rich via Ponzi schemes and I plan to get out in time"
No wonder the fucking globalists love China, hey?

Meanwhile their entire middle class's paper wealth is backed up by nothing at all but insanely overvalued, empty crumbling apartment blocks that nobody wants to live in.

>>126096765
It's hard to say about REITS. US Tsy long term interest rates may decline which may be seen as a boon for REITs in general in united states.

What does any of this mean for a NEET with no job experience, no skills and no money?

>>126098184
Well. Then.
Respect, commonwealth brother.

who will america go to war with to cover their losses?

>>126098094
Maybe you should reduce it and then buy it back if the pricing is better. S&P in general is pretty expensive anyway.

>>126098334
It will be even easier to get laid in China if your parents pay for you to go travelling there.

>>126098206
The tracking error on the leveraged ETNs are ridiculous anyway.

>>126097950
Probably not great if you need the money in the next 5 years. Fine if you're investing it for retirement that's 20 or 30 years away.

Should I just be holding cash in anticipation of an inevitable crash?

>>126098481
We're setting up Russia as the big bad guy all over the news, but I doubt we will go straight at Russia. We'll probably start another proxy war with Syria or Iran.

>>126096919
It will be right eventually. One of these threads is bound to call it. It's not like 2008 is going to be the last market collapse in history.

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>>126098498
It's a small amount but I know we're are way over valued, I see what the market looks like and cash out and buy back.
What's your opinion on diamonds and diamond mines? I know they're luxury but do they retain any value like metals in a rescission?
Lastly, any thoughts on GE? I bought in during the crash when I first started and I'm up like 80%. Seems like they might have some trouble ahead but seems relatively safe and I like the .25 dividend. Thanks friend, you've put a lot good info in this thread.

>>126098408
Don't get too comfy in these threads... I'm warning you. Stay safe, friend.

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>>126098570
Still be stuck up bitches though
Go to Thailand
50/50 roulette of trap or thot

>>126098875
yeah wont need it for ~25 years... Still went a bit heavy recently in total stock index so I may reduce it a bit... feels like I bought too high

>>126098481
The plan was Russia but then the election happened. We could dust off Iran or maybe light the fuse on the norks but I'm sure there are lots of out of the box ideas on the table.

>>126095653
In addition to lumber industry. Trump just cucked you. A recent EO levied high taxes against or flatout banned importation of Canadian wood into the US (I'm not sure which option it was)

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>>126099399
Russia is a shit hole
American wants resources
ISIS oil in Syria is the first option
Nork REMs would be good too

>>126096123
>Trump finally brings about the day of the rake

>>126099113
I've never invested in diamonds so I couldn't tell you much about them.
I do like having precious metals as a hedge on the portfolio and I normally hate them but it feels right.
GE is ok. It's probably fairly valued or slightly undervalued.
If you own the S&P in a retirement account and are regularly saving in it staying put and saving more when it goes down is probably the best thing to do. It's really hard if not impossible to time the market perfectly and if you aren't planning on using the money until 20 years from now it won't matter. Just stay the course and save as much as you can during the dips.
Maybe move some from the S&P to emerging markets after china melts down as they have the best long term prospects over the next 15-20 years for sure if that's your time horizon.

If you're thinking your time horizon is the next 5 years then pump the brakes a bit and move into more conservative investments. Not necessarily gold, but maybe a little. Maybe just cash and short term debt instruments that are investment grade.

>>126099374
Since we started with data on the S&P in the early 1900s there hasn't been a 15 year period where it has not ended higher than it began and that includes the great depression. If your time horizon is long and you are saving regularly just up your savings during the dips and don't worry about it.

>>126099113
My impression was that the diamond market was completely manipulated by the big boys (de Beers, etc.). Supply is heavily suppressed to keep prices up and they're fairly illiquid. Full disclosure: I'm a leaf.

>>126100637
>Supply is heavily suppressed to keep prices up

every fucking commodity on the globe is handled this way

nothing is rare, trying to sell a bucket of oil is like trying to sell a bucket of water

>>126087574
All oil still sold in Dollars. People fucking forget the fact that our dollars worth is based on foreign currency.
>How I by oyl?
>Gimme yer munny 4 mine
>Ahhh Kk
Gold... pfft

>>126100360
I have a roth thats my main and a regular trading account I take high risks with.
I have been fucked by every Chinese stock I've ever owned. Maybe after their crash it will be better but I've been fucked like 6 times. Thank you very much again buddy.

>>126094186
thanks

>>126082680
>post chart from 1979 but relabels it 2017
faggot

>>126075175
That's about all. Peace out.

>>126074227
its the current year

>>126088733
Because if current trends are maintained China will likely have the world's largest G.D.P. within 15-20 years. They already have the world's largest P.P.P., but when you're measuring the comparative wealth of nations as a whole, G.D.P. is a better metric. This is especially true when one country is developed and one isn't, as P.P.P. will always favor developing countries.

But I digress. China will probably be the leading economic power within a couple decades, and China is a fucking shitshow so that wouldn't bode well for the world.

>>126100793
Agreed, but diamonds are a special kind of (((commodity))).

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/02/have-you-ever-tried-to-sell-a-diamond/304575/

>>126100637
Fair enough, the company I'm talking about is Canadian too. Dominion Diamond Corporation, used to be Harry Winston Diamond but the crash all most killed them. They got bought out by a mining company though they are still in retail.

>>126100896
The entire chinese financial culture seems to be to try to scam everyone. I've been burned on a few chinese stocks before and feel like I can never trust them.

>>126101190
Jewelry grade are luxuries, industrial grade are now synthetic. Personally I feel like PMs are more attractive in a financial crisis type situation. That said, prices are already breddy high. I know fuckall desu.

>>126101016
but that's wrong, you fucking retard

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/sovereign-debt-crisis/sovereign-debt-crisis-cycle-due-2017/

>>126074517
6.88 yuan to the US dollar, mumble mumble, = 1.9 trillion USD? Doesn't seem like SUCH a big deal.

>>126092014
the tylers have correctly predicted thirty of the last two recessions.

what if this was the globalist plan all along?
>white men obsess over asian women
>collapse china
>flood white countries with chinese refugees
>lefties happy
>righties divided because chinese are "so much better than those terrorist refugees!"
>white conservatives breed with chinese conservatives
>white liberals breed with shitskins
>white identity gone, everyone becomes a worthless mulatto
>jews have gained complete control

>>126091543
Yuan, not USD

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>>126102974
>implying that in two generations superior conservative hapa hybrids won't just glass the entire Middle East once and for all
Wew

>>126075691
> china is not honest at all in anything,
And thanks to Trump we're going to let them process our chicken and sell it back to us.

>>126101353
>trusting the panda jew

>>126103327
All you gotta do is read the label. Not hard.

>>126075175
so this confirms it's not happening then, that retard is never right

>>126073228
>source is zero hedge

Place has been saying the world economy was going to end on a daily basis since it was created.

>>126102974
>implying Jews aren't mullatos with a lil white blood

>>126103649
Doom porn sells ads, at least to retards without Adblock.

>>126097360
>Chinese .. have way too much influence in Hollywood

Yeah we noticed - Chinese fucking everywhere in the movies - maybe time to start learning Mandarin again.

>>126074877
Mmmm nice rocation!

>>126097884
oh jeez. The worst thing about redditors isn't their culture, it's their lack of intelligence.

>>126095653
have you tried adding social programs giving more benefits to the immigrants? That might fix it.

Ok, if this happens, will i get money if i buy chinese CDS's (allowed since dec16), sell them when it explodes, and then buy chinese gov bonds when chinese risk premiumhits massive numbers, and then everything chills?

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Meanwhile Australia sits back and watches it all burn from the best seat in the house. Feels good man

>>126103649
I really am fucking sick of the doomfaggots. Literally spouting the same shit for over a decade now. They are worse than the MSM if you want to inform yourself.

Like seriously, is there one fucking person out there who is accurate with their predictions? One fucking person?

>>126087073
Kek works in chaotic ways

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>>126087073
Its China investing heavily in Africa

>>126104548
Peter Schiff. At least he says he is. Remember when gold hit $5000. Pfft

>>126103470
You know fast-food restaurants will use that stuff. Hopefully some of the chemicals will leach out into deep-fry oil :)

>>126089308
US back under British ownership after 1935 Social Security Act.

>>126092428
Like the man said, to give commies such as your reddit self free helicopter rides. Now fuck off.

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>>126091105
>is 13,000,000,000,000 a lot? I don't know. I'm not too sure

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>>126074408
I hope all this happens in the same week.
>Hillary investigation starts
>Russia Schizophrenia from the left reaches terrorism heights
>Antifa burns college building down
>Trump assassination attempted
>China's economy collapses
>Democrats in the government urge the military to act against Trump
>US economy crashes due to presidential uncertainty

Literally a perfect storm for the fire to rise.

>>126090209
A disturbing thought.. makes sense though, the Rothschild family doesn't like to travel

>>126091769
What does Trump mean when he says, "China is a currency manipulator"?

>>126104762
>The star will gorge itself on clay

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/amyjadesimi/2017/03/14/how-chinas-60-billion-for-africa-will-drive-global-prosperity/amp/

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>>126104535
>economy based on real estate and resource extraction
Yeah cunt, you'll be fine.

>>126090603
>he doesn't want global collapse
It's like you LIKE being under Islam or something. If the governments are unable to keep their people under control revolutions will happen all across Europe, gassing Muds and probably even government officials

>>126095509
Top that shit up before the margin call, yo.

>>126086673
>dump
What does that mean? How do you dump debt. You mean loan sharking? Asking for it to be payed immediately?

>>126088014
IS CHINA LYING?
[X] YES
[ ] NO

>>126073228
it's gonna crash
SOON

Ok while we are at it please recommend some resources about personal finance and investments

>>126103327
>And thanks to Trump we're going to let them process our chicken and sell it back to us.
>thanks to Trump

Are you stupid enough to believe your entire country wasn't being sold out to the Chinese before a few months ago?

Please tell me you're not that stupid, anon. Please.

>>126105625
It means they'll sell US government bonds, which are debt instruments. It's tricky business.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE REDPILL ME

Will trump save us???

>>126077717
>not ironically feeding into it

>>126105869
Hmm
Fucking Jews always gotta complicate everything. If you owe money that means a negative balance, period. I only know basic stock markets, not international bullshit trading.

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>>126104535
Cunt if china even farts, we shit ourselves.

>>126091951
China slowing on oil consumption could push the peak oil zero hour back a decade.. this isn't a bad thing, cause when that happens civilization could legitimately collapse

>>126105928
China is China, again.
>lie and trick people
>lie about your GDP
>lie about how you manage your economy
>play Jewish games with your currency to make more money (value) in the short term, but increase the bubble that will pop in the long term.

>>126106118
Government bonds are like promissory notes, if that makes sense.
>I'll gladly pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today

>>126105764
There will be no safehavens during the next collapse.

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>>126091354
Anti Communist revolution instead.

>>126104548
Jim Grant. He's normally early but he's generally right. He called the Japanese stock bubble in the late 80s the tech bubble and the housing bubble in the US. He's also been talking about these problems in china for the last two years.

>>126105625
You can't really demand payment for a bond that isn't due yet, but you can sell the debt to someone else.
When we buy tankers full of shit for walmart, the Chinese shippers are not paid in cash, they are paid in US Treasury notes. This is partly what makes up "muh 20 Trillion".
Supposedly, China doesn't want to be paid in these bonds anymore, so that could be bad.
>good podcast, check out goldenjackass.com

>>126106299
So the US gave China millions of bonds in exchange for [Value] money? Fuck, I wish people actually ran the government like a fucking business. I hate liberals always saying that the government shouldn't be run like a business because there are people in it. Well, if the government were small and in no involved in social issues this would not be a problem.

>>126105242

if this happens, give me like two days notice so I can make sure to have plenty of beer and burgers. a week that full of happenings deserves a party.

>>126105764
The intelligent investor by Benjamin Graham.

>>126106294
It means selling ownership of the debt to some schmuck.

What this guy said: >>126106567
It basically means said schmuck can try to squeeze blood from a rock when the wealth the debt (a promise to pay at a later date) was based on is long gone.
Fair warning: I'm economically illiterate, but even I understood that much.

>>126106567
>Supposedly, China doesn't want to be paid in these bonds anymore, so that could be bad.
Definitely not a good sign, the whole concept of fiat currency is based on confidence from what little I know.

>>126106567
Thanks m8, any recommended episode? Are they high level stock trader talk or is it more easy on newcomers? I tried listening to this interview with Peter Schif and a chink, it was like they were talking german
>yes but what about the negative dividends of international stock trading companies
>well, it's not about the dividends but about the futures and forex markets because if the futures were to default then the ROI value of their stock holdings would collapse and quickly rise again creating a dead cat bounce which would trigger an increase in government bonds.
>hmm, of course.
What.

>>126073228

https://discord.gg/swp3YFF

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Back in 08 I remember dollar went from 10 pesos to 7.


YOU CAN DO THIS CHINA

>>126106313

It is hard to have one without the other anon. As we know a revolution must start with a revolt.

I can't wait.

>>126107170
>when the wealth the debt was based is long gone
So like investing on food that goes bad, or flipping a house for 50% less of what you borrowed... Hmm

>>126105625
Over supply of bonds drives the price down, suddenly US debt isn't worth much meaning high interest and yields so the US can continue taking out loans.

>>126106567
>We bought everything from China with $20 trillion of t-bills.
Haha, truth be told we've actually jewed the fuck out of the chinks. We can default any time we want and they're completely fucked.

I mean selling the loan to another party.

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bond.asp

>>126106568
Businesses issue bonds all the time.

>>126095653
Well aware my friend, I'm having a fucking hell of a time trying to find work. Used to work with my provincial government but the jobs got axed this year

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>>126073228
I will have a Chinese sex daughter in this lifetime

>>126107667
Yes, the problem I see is when they issue more than they make in taxes, a deficit. You can't run a credit card every month for 10,000 when you only make 2000 a month. It's unsustainable.

>>126107408
Right. It would screw with interest rates, our economy, and our currency.

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so... vix options or gold anons?

>>126096765
If the tenants fail everything fails

>>126107408
That's also ignoring the hole it would leave in pensions, balance sheets, retirement funds, etc. that previously bought those bonds at the higher price.

>>126088429
They will be forced to sell it to prop up their shit

>>126097950
You're fine if its long term and they are solid companies.

>>126087073

Wasn't there a formation depicting a Chinese inscription from long ago discovered on a rocky mountainside that stated that their communist party will fall?

>>126108096
China and the US are in a financial mutually assured destruction type relationship. I'm sure it'll end well.

>>126107922
The nature of the dollar is that it is introduced to the economy at interest. The bills you have in your wallet only exist because they were issued in exchange for bonds. You're straying into a complex issue that household budget running doesn't really apply to.

>>126090058
So the eternal anglo is the one true jew of this world?

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>>126108451
>Tfw stock market brainlet

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>>126086191
Well certainly you've protected Americans from this risk, correct?

>>126102974
FALSE.

WHITENESE WILL BE THE ELITE RACE WITH CUNNING TO ECLIPSE THE JEW