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Why are Anarcho Capitalism and Natonal Socialists on this board

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Why are Anarcho Capitalism and Natonal Socialists on this board so similar? They're very different ideologies but it seems like strict libertarians like Molyneaux are somewhat supportive of Hitler. Why is this?
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Molyneaux is a hack fraud who says and does things to get more popularity, notoriety, and followers. He isn't motivated by intellectual integrity, and no matter how much he uses terms from a community college's Introduction to Philosophy course
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>>120781337
Okay but why do people tend to support National Socialism when they're Hoppean libertarians
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I am natsoc and i have nothing in common with capitalist and even less anarchism.
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Nazis were anti-capitalistic in theory but in practice used it to their advantage

Not the answer you are looking for but that's just what I do
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>>120781572

If we call these people libertarians the word is essentially meaningless, natsoc people and anarcho capitalist people aren't interested in liberty or anything that libertarians have to say
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>>120781709
Yes just like fascist, no economic dogma.
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>>120781572
Because the differences are merely economic at that point.
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>>120781940
There are people on this board who consider themselves: classical liberal, minarchists, libertarian, confederates, anarchists, etc who fully support Hitler's Third Reich. There has to be some political or psychology connection to these. They're on completely opposite sides of the spectrum but fully support that their ideology. I am just wondering why
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Both see the evils of creating money with interest attached as creating interest slaves of a society.

Ron Paul taught me that and I recently discovered Hitlers economic advisor thought the same thing
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>>120781125
I'd say if right-authoritarianism becomes dominant then classical libs will switch.
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>>120781125
Its because they're not actually libertarians. They are fascist who want less government restriction is all. Nobody here really likes democracy and deep in their hearts they now it.
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>>120782275
>There are people on this board who consider themselves: classical liberal, minarchists, libertarian, confederates, anarchists
Shills falling for shills
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Molyneux is a contrarian weasel.

>Molyneux stated that his mother was born "in Berlin in 1937 to a pretty Jewish clan" and lived there with her family until the Allied fire-bombing of Dresden in 1944.[8]

Every fucking time.
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>>120782275

In terms of ideology there is no connection.

Empirically (if you are looking for this type of answer), I would attribute it to the marketing campaign that industrialists and capitalists have had underway since the labor disputes of the late 1800s and early 1900s that tries to lend intellectual legitimacy to capitalism and markets. Libertarianism is what stuck, so now lots of people call themselves libertarians without thinking or talking about liberty
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>>120781125
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>>120781125
No one here is seriously ancap, it's just a meme and ancap is a oxymoron if you understand how private property requires a state and capitalism requires private property. Hitler's regime wasn't Socialist, the Nazi party originally was under the Strasser bros but they were purged in the 1934 Night of the Long Knives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strasserism
>Initially, Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric, although such aspects were later downplayed in order to gain the support of industrial entities, and in the 1930s the party's focus shifted to anti-Semitic and anti-Marxist themes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
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>>120784965
Private property doesn't require a state

And yes, I am a real ancap

As for OP, the reason we "share" so much is just a recent thing, because we have a common enemy which is democracy and cultural marxism
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>>120781125
There is nothing in common. It is just you could create your natsoc Nazi farm inside an ancap society and nobody would bother you as long as everything is voluntary. Just as someone could create their communist farm.
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>>120785454

> Private property doesn't require a state

lmfao
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>>120781125
Because only whites are interested in libertarianism let alone anarcho capitalism and most have high enough IQ to be Jew wise and race realists too. One just wants to collectivise to stomp enemies and the other just wants to be left alone to smoke weed.
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They find common ground in stuff like race realism and historical revision.
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>>120781125
I honestly think it is because if so-called libertarians and ancaps had to choose a full statist ideology, they'd chose fascism or national-socialism before communism.

This in fact happened during the Spanish Civil War, most of the right-wing politicians joined Franco for the same reason - not because they liked Franco, but because they prefered Franco to the Communist Republic.
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>>120781125
we're all closet natsoc lolerbergs because otherwise you would get lynched before the uprising
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>>120786984
>lolerbergs
what a forced stretch
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>>120781572
Probably because libertarians can't have the society they want, they may as well have a society that doesn't tolerate a bunch of feelings.
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>>120782283

this desu

END FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING NOW

GAS THE BANKERS
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>>120781125
>Neetsocs
>Good
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>>120784965
>No one here is seriously ancap
Bollocks, there's loads of us. The attraction it's a robust rw ideology, that avoids the issue of being a bootlicking robot statist. Hoppe is the ultimate redpill
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>>120781125
Libertards and ancrapitalist are useful idiots that will be gassed.
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>>120781125

THey are not at all, I don't know what you're smoking.

Molymeme is no libertarian he goes wherever the wind blows.
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>>120781125
Theyre both crazy and delusional.
Nat socs and ancaps both just want to destroy niggers, and think they are invincible enough to do it in their ideologies
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>>120787102

Free enterprise is by definition simply the absence of restrictions and regulation on commercial activity.
Capitalism is a powerful economic system as it relies on consensual mutually beneficial transactions at every level of the economy to constantly optimise and eliminate inefficiencies.
Capitalism has created more wealth than any other economic system.
Do not be decieved: Capitalism is ten thousand times the cancer that Marxism could ever be.
Capitalism is a materialistic ideology, and the free market cares for nothing but profit.
Fast food, pornography, cheap plastic chatchkis imported from china: these are what capitalism peddles.
Our air, soil, and water have been poisoned for profit.
It is an egalitarian system that doesn't care if you're white, black, man, woman, aethiest, or gay, so long as you can fork over another shekel for a big mac.
It pushes feminism and mass immigration to lower the value of labor, as dictated by the iron law of suply and demand, because labor is a limited and valuable resource.
No material wealth is worth the destruction of race, culture, and nature.
No material wealth is as valuable as blut und boden.
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>>120782275
autism, ever heard of it ?
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>>120782283
Ancaps have no ideological opposition to interest
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>>120781125
Redpilled libertarians realize they need NatSocs to clean up the filth that 50+ years of Marxism has brought us. They're not willing to do the dirty work themselves, so they view us as an ally.
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>>120787663
why bother it's not like autists have children
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>>120787807
WTF i love fascism now
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>>120781709
NatSoc is based off free enterprise.
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>>120788073
>own factory and some land in ancapistan
>import mexicans by the truckload to work for cheap in factories & live in cupboards
>it's not open borders tho
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>>120787944
I don't know what AnCaps you are listening to but the ones I listen to advocate real money not debt based fiat currency created by fractional reserve banking.

Its a central theme.

Why should one generations debt be passed onto anyone else unvoluntarily?
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>>120788337
>what are private communities and private cities
>what is contractual-based societies
>what is voluntarism
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>>120786626

I don't think its one or the other, I think people are a mix and it comes down to idealism vs realism

Libertarians see themselves as realists and national socialism as an impossible ideal, so they choose the more realistic option that is to be left the fuck alone to numb themselves to the state of society by getting stoned

If /pol/ would drop the hurr weed is degenerate shit there'd be far more overlap
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For anyone serious about learning more about rw libertarianism or ancap, pay us a visit in /lrg/ libertarian right general.

Or start here to understand the snekpill

>Rothbard: Anatomy of the State
https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf

>Hoppe: Democracy—The God That Failed (2001)
http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf
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>>120788385
Ancaps dont believe in centralised banking.
That is to say, private banks are legit and can do pretty much what they want unregulated.
If your parents signed away your inheritance money from shit loans well too bad
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>>120788477
a bunch of crap that wont work
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>>120781125

national socialism is an "empirical"(based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic) system and ancap is an "a priori" (relating to or denoting reasoning or knowledge that proceeds from theoretical deduction rather than from observation or experience.) system.

What national socialism does is build a government with extreme power to actively remove from society what they deem "undesirable".
In the sense that they have knowledge about how an object affects society as a whole, for example that mentally deficient people reproducing will hurt the life standard of the society that has to support these people, and act on that knowledge.

On the other hand ancaps or libertarians in general create a passive system with minimal central force. They would argue that only the current size and power of the central government has allowed for the existence of degenerate lifestyles that happen on the cost of the net taxpayer (usually mentally and bodily healthy individuals) and thus oppresses the productive class in society.

What makes them so similar is that they both have almost the same vision for how an ideal society looks like, the only difference is that national socialists want an "active" system and ancaps want a "passive" system.
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Most libertarians are closet fascist who are too afraid (from years of brainwashing) to actually take the NatSoc-pill
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>>120788863
True, should just convert to neetsoc now which will definitely happen
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When it comes to AnCaps and Nat Soc, they see each other as simply a means to an end, no more, no less,and not as actual allies. Think about it, OP. The only time an AnCap type society would even emerge is in a time of political destabilization or post-apocalypse. If every individual group or individual is given the right to govern themselves and go upon the principal of not breaching each other's NAP, wouldn't it be the perfect storm for a National Socialist society to rise out of that? They could easily set up in any region of their choosing, establish some rules that outsiders aren't allowed to violate aka a NAP to all those AnCaps out there, and eventually expand by annexing those who aren't well armed or well connected enough to fend off the National Socialist's expansion.
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>>120781125
When you are libertarian you defend the right for people to say and believe in what you want.

Some of the points expressed by the Natsocs are perfectly valid, this it's evident if you remove your prejudices about them.
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Virtually everyone who has jumped on the altright/natsoc train in the last 2 years was a former libertarian/ancap myself included. The reasons for this are simple

>freedom of association
this is obvious. Ancaps want people to freely associate and exclude with anyone they want. Natsocs believe that left to our own devices these "associations" would be drawn on racial/ethnic lines.

>nonwhites and their propensity to endlessly ask for gibs

another obvoius point in which libertarians/ancaps and natsocs agree. Both realize that nonwhites only hold back a nation by being parasites. This was one of the main issues that drove me off the deep end.

Why do we as a country have to import people who are a net negative on our economy/state welfare system?

Both ancaps and natsocs want the same thing in the end: to live peacefully with their own people. The problem with ancaps is they are by definition passive (NAP) and will always be trampled by leftists. Natsocs recognize that being passive is why conservatives and Ancaps always lose, and why lefitsm and liberalism have always won.
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>>120789010
Surprsingly good answer and I would tend to agree

This doesn't apply to all ancaps though, there are still ancaps like Jeffrey Tucker and Adam Kokesh who are "duud weed lmao" type of dudes

Then you have the redpilled ones like Hoppe which do want almost the same preservation of culture like natsocs want
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>>120781125

Neither of our political systems work when Jews, dysgenics, and retarded nonwhites are in the mix.

Many Ancaps also realize that fascism is often a temporary phase to correct a broken body politic/culture, and can easily end in their preferred political system.

Therefore we have a tentative alliance based on logical reasoning.
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>>120789010
Yes.
They both hate niggers and jews and want to get rid of them. Thats it
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>>120788795
>can do pretty much what they want unregulated
right, because the money is REAL money. Not national debt fiat currency.

I didn't mention inheritance or shit loans. My point is our governments are spending money that doesn't exist. They print it by declaration (fiat) which devalues all currency in circulation. The future generation inherit this devalued currency and find houses and raising a family is unaffordable.
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>>120789010
>national socialists want an "active" system and ancaps want a "passive" system.

It's also about not wanting to hand over responsibility to a (presumably) totalitarian state. Force certainly can exist in a libertarian society, but the government is not the sole arbiter of where and when it can be applied, as it is currently.
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They're both retards who have no idea what they are talking about.
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The real answer is that they both appeal to stupid and uneducated people that think really highly of themselves and can't explain why life constantly humiliates them
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I don't like planists at all but I hate commies and natsocs hate them too so at least we have something to talk about
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>>120785454
>Private property doesn't require a state
>"durrr hey mister Schlomostein let us sign this contract for you to deliver me some goods"
>Mr. Schlomostein never delivers the goods yet you paid
>"Mr. Schlomo give me my goods"
>"No."
>"O...okay"
>the retarded Swede never got his goods and without a state to enforce the contract there was nothing he could do
>he and his wife starved to death 2 weeks later

Yeah you totally don't need a state! kek
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>>120789411
Like i said ancaps have no issue againsy fiat currency.
They believe that having competition between smaller private banks will regulate the issue of notes, as opposed to a "final monopoly issuer" in the case of a federal bank which can issue with impunity
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as weird as it sounds, ancap and fascism are essentially the same thing. fascism/reactionaism is when people feel like the government isnt protecting them anymore, so they take protection into their own hands. similar ancap is about wanting to have completely ownership of your own property and who is allowed to use it. In both cases its about the illegitimatcy of the government in charge and how they are just making things worse.
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>>120781125
National Socialism is in total opposition to the modern system.
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And of course we both really, I mean really, hate fucking commies. Fuck communism.
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>>120789745
>nat soc
>not totalitarian
Well not quite, but its firmly authoritarian
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>>120790192
>competition between smaller private banks will regulate the issue of notes
with interest or without?
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>>120789745
I'd like you guys more if you were more like the left column.
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>>120790413
True.
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>>120781125
Because NatSoc is essentially a state that enforces Hoppean AnCap ideals (moral, family oriented, non-exploitative etc.)
If we're going to have a state it might as well be one that acts in our interests. At the end of the day the state is a compulsory spending machine. Given the choice I'd rather it spent that money on protecting my interests, unlike quasi-socialist third-worldist liberal democracy or soulless communism.
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>>120790249
I agree its reactionary to the status quo, but fundamentally they both hate niggers and jews
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>>120789280

> Virtually everyone who has jumped on the altright/natsoc train in the last 2 years

What is that - like 3 people - at best?
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>>120790187
Oh there are enforcers all right, they are just not government is all. From the simplest, which is free market forces, (ie no cunt buys from shlomo any more - no artificial monopolies so his competitors put him under), through covenants, up to private defence contractors etc etc
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>>120790413
Fair enough
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>>120783309
wtf m8
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>>120781125
Because liberty is an intrasocial concept that can only be shared and enjoyed among basic equals, and some types of social limits are perfectly natural barriers to the sorts of misconduct that undermine both individual and social health.
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>>120790466
Doesnt matter.
If a bank loans without interest it will be more attractive to borrowers but they need to make money in other ways obviously.
Ancap ideology is "let the market sort it out"
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>>120790767
lmao, you don't belong here
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TOPKEK

>>>/lgbt/8093549
>>>/lgbt/8074088

Get a room, faggots
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>>120781125

Right wing ideologies all favor the same values, Individual, family, society, God. They only differ on the means to attain and improve upon those.
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What if I am an Anarcho-National Socialist?
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>>120788277
Originally it was. It turned into centrally planned crap once the war started.
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>>120790549
The first quote there is badly worded, but if what he is saying is sexual freedom (no faggotry, keep it in the bedroom), no gun restrictions, drugs are a personal choice and responsibility, and defence of private property - that's fine by me
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>>120789073
fucking retard
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>>120791018
>"let the market sort it out"
right - and the more attractive choice will always be real money with no interest attached. A fiat currency with interest attached can't compete and will surely fail, but you can offer it, I suppose.
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>>120781125
Because Ancap is nothing more than private little national socialist properties.
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>>120787473
Oh fuck all the way off.
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>>120788795
That's not the same as putting someone into debt before they are even born.
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>>120781125

They both want to live in similar societies, and both have the exact same ideologies opposing them. They can respect each other.

But I think you mean Libertarians/Hoppean Snake Memers and Natsoc/Fascist/Hard conservatives.

I think a lot of "natsoc" people here are just excited fascists desu.
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>>120781125
because the only way to save hummanity is one or the other
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Murray Rothbard thought right-wing populism was the key to getting his ideas out later in his life and beyond a few principles economics are a secondary concern in National Socialism. I think you could easily find a middle ground.
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>>120791751
Your parents can easily do that to you if they wanted.
Its just not the state ok?
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>>120781125
Because ideology is contextual. In certain countries (like the US) national socialism wouldnt work so anarcho capitalism is the best alternative, etc
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>>120781125

both have a room for racial realism and generally belive in evolution. egalitarians hate them.
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>>120791644
t. the monkey cuckservative
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>>120781125
(((Anarcho-Capitalism)))
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>>120790940
I have a trap socialist canadian, m8. I love leaf boipucci.
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>>120781125
they're fucking dumb
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>>120791544
The problem is probably no bank would realistically not have interest on loans.
As far as fiat currency concerned, possibly it would not exist as it is now, but that is easily circumvented by fractional lending anyway.
Its all moot anyway cos ancap is dumb and wouldnt work
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>>120788795
> much what they want unregulated.

but you have to sign in into the bank. thats far less harmful if I can choose my contract and not be forced into it. personally i don't see much of an adventage of a central bank. it seems to give politicans a bit to much power which tends to be abused for gambling short term goals before elections (in a democracy at least).
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>>120782173
>merely economic

This is why /pol/ sucks ass, you suck ass.
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>>120781125
Probably because both are fringe ideologies which are anti-marxist and on the right side of the political spectrum. The enemy of thy enemy is thy friend.
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>>120781125
Libertarians are here because everyone is allowed to talk. Nazis are here because it's the only place then can express their ideas without being attacked by the rest of society.
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>>120792824
You HAVE a canadian socialist trap?
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>>120793235
I posted pics of her the other day on the libertarian thread. It happened a mess. I have an American trap that also is a /pol/tard
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>>120792899
I think you've mistaken todays fake fiat currency for value. Todays currencies are debt - nationaldebt - and are devaluing all the time.

AnCap advocates real money. You can't go wrong with real money. Its literally impossible.
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We have common enemies (kikes)
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>>120791773
Nah, m8. I actually believe in National Socialism being able to work if given an actual chance. It can be applied to ((((civic nationalism)))) or to ethnic nationalism. Surprise, surprise, I'm a supporter of the latter kind.
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>>120792928
Central bank is all about capital stability and national capital leverage.
In the age of mercantilism a central bank was powerful because mercantilism is essentially state capitalism. It is still very powerful tool for developing economies for example.
If the state does any kind of capitalistic economic activity it requires a bank. If it doesnt, then it shouldnt have one
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>>120793603
Oh shit I thought that was just bad english, fair play
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>>120793776
Would you like to start an ethnic enclave?
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>>120793700
No note based currency is "real money".
Do you mean trading gold coins or something?
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I consider myself a Libertarian Capitalist, yet I see the value of NatSoc. For Libertarianism and AnCap to work, the general spirit of man must be heightened. There's far too much degeneracy in our culture for a proper Libertarian or AnCap society to function. That's why I support a slow transition into NatSoc in order to 'purify' the hearts of man and culture. (Fascism if only necessary) Once the general population is more elevated in thought and spirit, a slow transition back to Libertarianism should be successful. Less degeneracy and an evolved understanding of self and culture leads to a better state of man that no longer needs as much government oversight. Anyone else have similar views?
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>>120793603
traps are gay
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>>120794174
Pretty much sums it up.
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>>120781125
Libertarianism and ancap are both ideal societies for further sustaining (((corporate oligopoly))), and play useful idiots against their own interests by promoting passive and post modernist naive idealistic thinking like the NAP & immorality of violence.

However with the popularizing of race realism libertarians/ancaps have realized their idealistic societies only have chance if they remove the people who dont support them, but have perhaps yet to realize that includes all women & non autists.

So the interests coincide with physical removal. Though it is funny that if ancaps did have their perfect new man for their utopia, they wouldn't need to abolish the state because such people would keep it under control. This I think is the crux of the mis-attribution of tyranny to government inherently, the modern government is bad because it has no incentive to be good, the people beneath it are all played against each other or neutralized easily with socialism gibs. This is all a result of the "multicultural" and "diverse" society that changes the government into a corporation by removing the connection to the people, the USA is no ones absolute homeland.
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>>120794174
Precisely
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>>120794174
>fascism

meh anon,

monarchy + free markets + moderate etho nationalism = GOAT.
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>>120794174
An analogy is like a chronically fat person. They are too fat to walk telling them to just be healthy bro won't do shit. They need surgery by now, that surgery is national socialism followed by intensive care. Then they need to learn the good habits and then become a healthy person (small government state with a strong moral societal fabric)
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>>120795163
>monarchy
Aaaaaand into the trash it goes.
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>>120794020
Gold or Silver or notes that are backed by anything of value (like food maybe), sure. But most importantly with no interest attached.

It can even be a fiat currency just as long as everyone knows how many are in circulation and being printed and the effects of printing more of them and how this affects the value.
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>>120795554
>1 post by this ID
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>>120795699
Yes all these options can possibly work.
A bank that issues currency is just a tool. It can be used for good or evil
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>>120795286
No wonder a burger would go straight for the fat person analogy.
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>>120794174
>That's why I support a slow transition into NatSoc in order to 'purify' the hearts of man and culture. (Fascism if only necessary) Once the general population is more elevated in thought and spirit, a slow transition back to Libertarianism should be successful. Less degeneracy and an evolved understanding of self and culture leads to a better state of man that no longer needs as much government oversight.
That was pretty much the entire intellectual foundation of fascism and national socialism. Rebirth of the nation, and therefore the citizens, through palingenesis. It took a lot from the idea of the classical Roman dictator. The difference between it and the Roman method was that they sought to improve upon the older system's perceived faults. If the dictator is selected in times of great peril, when a period of excessive liberty and degeneracy has crippled the nation, why not just make the dictator a constant station?
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>>120781125
Im wondering that too honestly. I'm mostly a libertarian at least according to most political test i take but I cannot help myself from having some sympathy for the third reich (''nazi sympatizer'' if you prefer buzzwords.) I've no fucking idea why i literally can't explain it
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>>120781125
Anarcho-Capitalists are anti-degeneracy and we have a history of supporting historical revisionists, including Holocaust revisionism.
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>>120796304
Everything the Nazi's fought against is what AnCaps fight against. Communism, degeneracy, etc. And AnCaps are race realists. AnCaps only think that National Socialists are bad at economics but we think that of everyone. So if you're going to be wrong on economics an AnCap would prefer you to at least be pro-Christian, pro-White, pro-Germanic values, and anti-Communist. Nat-Socs are all of this.
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>>120796872
>ancaps think natsocs are bad at economics
Now thats irony
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Neither will ever happen IRL anyway
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>>120790549

Who cares what a degenerate who doesn't want to preserve culture wants
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>>120796304
I'm a hoppean lib, but honestly who doesn't sometimes dream of just being part of some marching hoard, setting the world to rights with steel and flame?
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>>120797409
ancaps think economy is just numbers floating in theoryspace and that collusion doesn't exist. They also somehow doen't understand that free markets are probably the least profitable existence. They will always seek to escape free market and implement more like what we have today.
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>>120781125
They are both theoretical solutions to the same problems.

Ancaps aren't actually opposed to government(IE rules), they are opposed to governments they don't like.
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>>120798174
>who doesn't sometimes dream of just being part of some marching hoard,
the few of us who aren't raging cucks ?
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>>120793776

I guess what I meant was a lot of the "natsoc" memers, not the people on /nsg/, have developed fascist tendencies but express themselves through natsoc stuff.

To you, they should be useful allies. Libs/fascists/natsoc should all work together for the many ideas they have in common before bickering among one another.
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>>120796872
i think we need a couple centuries of state sponsored eugenics program and other very authoritarian stuff if we want a working ancap society one day

let's be honest no ancap would like to have the gubment disappear now the world would be a fucking mess
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>>120798722
>muh rugged individualism
Have fun dying alone
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>>120798722
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
― H.L. Mencken
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>>120781125
since when has anarcho-anything been accepted on /pol/

OP being a stupid nigger thinking anarcho-capitalism is the same as libertarianism
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>>120799194
Mencken was the man.

The only thing that natsocs and ancaps have in common is anti-egalitarianism and anti-political correctness, also the majority of ancaps and natsocs are white males. Today, we have a world of forced association and egalitarianism above everything, therefore natsocs and ancaps will join forces on some issues.
I don't believe all who claim they are natsocs, are, many are closer to traditional conservatives or paleocons than natsocs. And the same can be said about supporting the Third Reich, no ancap can support the Third Reich, yet some might do just for fun, because it shocks people.
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>>120793776
>ywn have a qt nazi waifu
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>>120800440
>thats probably considered blonde in germany
kek
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Because the Ancaps aren't actually Ancaps, they're just Confederate apologists.
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>>120787637
The funny thing with ancaps though, in my experience, is they're the sort of people who will be walked over by fascists.
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>>120782275
Your falling for shills

Natsocs think they can rally ancaps to their cause. In fact, they do it with everybody on the right.
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>>120801301
Not true, did Hitler invade Switzerland for example?
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>>120781572

Because Libertarians are cringy retards who think they can pander to NatSocs by being edgy.
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>>120801518
What a completely inept comparison.
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Same reason the Soviets and the Americans were on the same side in WWII. Because they're faced with a common enemy. Once political correctness is dead they'll turn on each other without a second thought.
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>>120801706
Not an argument
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>>120801805
Much in the way your comparing an ancap community to 20th century Switzerland is not.
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>this is literally considered swedish in Sweden
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>>120800440
There's lots of steaming hot Nat Soc courtship in this video
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX_l2InVI5c
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>>120802029
you have to explain why its a false equivalency not just say it is one
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>>120799080
No, I understood what you meant. I was just saying I'm not one of those that claim NatSoc just to meme spout. I truly believe it. Even those who meme spout it though will eventually believe it themselves.
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>>120781125
They have shit economic views with similar cultural views to us. Ancap is just not compatible with Nationalism but don't tell them, let them be happy.
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