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>>115240161
Great. Now watch as SV moves to India.

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>>115240247

Thank fucking god.

>>115240247
Good luck convincing the software leads, that actually keep an eye on the poo code monkeys, to relocate to India.

They won't even leave California.

>>115240247
So true. White people don't have jack on superior Aryan Indians.

>>115240161
70% of them are fucking Pajeets?

>>115240161
Windows 11 might be decent after all

>>115240247
Code monkeys can be easily replaced

>>115240247
Poo in loos are excellent at maintaining SV for low prices after whites and chinamen already built everything, but they're not capable of making anything new. So I doubt that would happen and if it did I expect it to fail spectacularly.

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>>115240161
>70% poo in loo

God damn.

>>115240247

Lol they'd have to first learn how to use the designated shitting streets

>>115240161
I work in a major SV company. I'm like one of ten white people in my building. There are like ten Asians and the rest are Indian.

>>115240247
Where will we find grunt programmers that copy pasta code together? Oh that's right, everywhere.

>>115240633
These aren't codemonkeys. They low level software engineers that work 120k jobs for 60k/year and the economy has flourished because of it. Engineers are fucking overpaid in this country as it is.

>>115240247
They're not going to lose all their white programmers just for some poo in loos.

How is this not socialism? You're stifling the free market, here. If, I, a business owner wishes to reduce their labor costs and earn more money I should be able to. Why do you, using the government as a tool, pillage my potential gains? Why do YOU have a right to extorting me via forcing me to hire dumb Americans vs. smart foreigners who will work for less. I don't want to hire Americans who don't take learning seriously, graduate from glorified high schools called colleges, and demand tons of money. Socialism, not even once.

>>115240247
Poos & gooks can only copy, not create.

>>115240496
true Aryans are actually Persian

that´s at least where the word comes from

>>115240747
and yet you hardly notice them compared to other groups

really makes you think

>>115237833

>>115240941
>muh free market
Keep your neoliberal pseudo-communist bullshit away from America.

Old America (up to 1920) was the most libertarian nation to ever exist, and very protectionist.

>>115240941

It's called demographics. These brown people will give you a socialist utopia if they become the majority.

>>115240941
If you do have the right to do this, don't I also have a reciprocal right to subsidies for hiring Americans? Look at any standard test scores, even if you exclude blacks and Hispanics, white Americans are generally pretty dumb. Asian students treat their education like a full time job, and the effort shows. Americans just...well they don't take it seriously and act like snowflakes when no one will hire them.

>>115240161

>i need muh underpaid intern slaves

so, why are liberals all about enslaving foreigners?

>>115240519
Yes. I do a lot of work with Microsoft/Amazon which almost exclusively employ pajeets.

>>115240884
No Jr. level software engineer is making 120k. You're a fucking idiot if you think that. They're at most making 50k to 60k. These pajeets are largely making around 40k or less.

And no, jr. level software engineers can be replaced easily. Jr. level doesn't mean you haven't been around long enough to make connections. It means you know nothing and you need to be hand-held for atleast 1 to 2 years.

Thank fuck.

>>115241166
Right, the world today is exactly as it was in the 1920s. That's great. I'm convinced! See how long your firm lasts when have more labor costs, produce a worse product, and have to hire from a pool of idiots.

>>115240247
who cares? what major advancement has there been since ~2010 with the rise of smart phones (which were nothing but a cell phone and palm pilot rolled into one)?

pretty much everything in the past 7 years or so has just been slapping two existing technologies together, i.e. smart refrigerator/toaster/lamp/thermostat, or getting meager boosts in performance.

not to mention that fob curry niggers, if you ever met any, aren't innovators. they are cheap, sub par labor. their universities are dog shit, and all the curry niggers i met that were educated in india perform far worse than their US educated equivalents. worse yet, once they get management positions they hire more curry niggers.

>>115241190
Visas dont come cheap, you do not use them for interns. You use them for people in another countries branch who are good at their jobs. You pay them less to cover the visa cost

>>115241420
You're missing the whole point. What you're saying is that markets should be controlled by the government. That's the definition of socialism. If you'd argue that the government should tell me who I can and cannot hire, then why not argue for single-payer, or some other dumb socialist idea.

>>115240247
Cool then all of the debilitating traffic in my neighborhood will go away (south fremont). Housing prices will begin to fall, making it affordable.The schools will be less asian/indian so my child will feel less alienated. The stateless orientals will leave for wherever the money is, and I can have a community again.

I am employed by a tech company, and if them leaving means I have to go into manual labor or some other industry, I'd do it tomorrow if they left.

>>115241239
They pump and dump their employees. Being promoted pass entry level dev. Is hell in those companies.

They know that the entry level devs are the burger flippers of the software industry

All Pajeets and Chinks can do is copy. Maybe now you guys can actually higher people with actual talent

>>115241567

And now you can save all that visa money and hire an American worker and give them a salary they would command for their work.

I don't see the problem with that.

>>115240941
>dumb Americans vs. smart foreigners
kill yourself, curry nigger.

so it isn't because the indians and chinese are particularly smart, right?
it's because they don't mind working for slave wages in unsafe conditions, right?

>>115241567
Actually, if you apply for visas in bulk and you're short-changing your entry level employee by atleast 7k, you'll make your money back in 2 years or less. Entry level for US citizens goes from 50k to 65k. That's a lot of wiggle room to import pajeets and still make a profit.

>>115241685
Americans generally don't have that talent. Importing cheaper workers allows firms to get the best employees for the best cost. This, in turns, allows them to be competitive. Anything else would stifle innovation because, on average, Americans produce a lot of trash for every one genius. This is tantamount to trying to legislate full employment. The USSR had full employment, and look how wonderful that was!

If your job is at risk you either need to (1) work for less or (2) actually go out and learn something that's valuable, not just cry to Uncle Sam other people are smarter than you.

>>115240161
India color of poo. Just like it should be

>>115241604
then fuck off to whatever country lets you hire whoever you want. problem solved.

>>115241604
Are you really defending the practice of using foreigners instead of actual Americans? You're really pathetic

>>115240247
fuck you

>>115240247
Shiticon Valley

>>115241095
Actually it does. I have no idea when they started arriving or how quickly. They really are the aryans of sandnegroes.

>>115241807
Why subsidize mediocrity? This is the same line that liberals use with single-payer. ''Look, we can't make it on our own so help us!'' This is what the American workforce believes, all while screaming against socialism. You can't have it both ways. Stop acting like you're entitled to a firms money.

>>115242006
The talent pool is lacking no matter where you look.
The only positive I'll say about American entry level devs is that they at least speak the language and have decent enough reading comprehension skills.

Hiring Indians makes your sprints short as fuck because you constantly need to make sure they're not confused over simple shit.

>>115240161
Trump will keep all his promises

>>115241356
Don't worry m8, it will only affect those losers in California.

>>115240247
They're moving to near Portland, on the Washington side of the river.

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>>115242006
I fucking hate you libertarians so fucking much.

Not everything revolves around economic efficiency you stupid faggot, this is a country not a goddamn shopping mall.

Your parents don't send pajeet down the street to university because he got better marks than you in high school. Your country doesn't abandon you for easily exploitable pajeets because they'll do it for cheaper or have more degrees (that are from shit uni's).

also pic related

>>115240161
this right here was why I sided with trump.

>>115242006
>Americans generally don't have that talent. Importing cheaper workers allows firms to get the best employees for the best cost.
fuck off, shill.

you would need to have absolutely 0 real world experience to believe truly believe that.

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>>115242006
>Muh economy
Or you could care for your people

>>115242092
I'm defending the practice of fostering competitive industry. If a country has no competitive industry, it's totally fucked. If X firm makes Y product, but competes with Z firm who makes a better Y product for less, and thus passes that savings onto the consumer, then X is fucked. Utterly fucked. This isn't hard to understand. Markets work best without government interference.

Why not just institute basic income if your goal to just funnel money into the pockets of undeserving, unproductive, entitled Americans? Wouldn't that just do the same thing? The whole point here is you want Americans to be considered first for hiring, but why even bother having them work if they're going to sink firms? Just give them money to live and build their dumb socialist universities.

>>115240941
there are ethical concerns that come along with supporting countries like India and China where basic human rights are trampled.

you do not have a right to exploit workers simply because their shitty government is indifferent.

if you don't have ethics or morals fine. enjoy an eternity living in a lake of fire when you die. but outsourcing labor to places that abuse humans in a daily basis is wrong, and you know it.

>>115242336
Entry level devs are pretty woeful nowhere they come from. The retention rate for entry level is fucking pathetic through the industry. They come in expecting someone to hold their hand and train them. Which will never happen.

However American entry level devs at least have used a computer before coming to the job site.

>>115242251
I'm not a libertarian, I'm a republican. This is the platform of the GOP. Why do you think we're called the pro-business party? Because basic economic logic doesn't escape us like it does those who support this contrived entitlement program of ''HIRE AMERICANS EVEN IF THEY'RE DUMB!''

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>>115240161
I don't get it, what's happening?

>>115242508
>Why not just institute basic income if your goal to just funnel money into the pockets of undeserving, unproductive, entitled Americans? Wouldn't that just do the same thing? The whole point here is you want Americans to be considered first for hiring, but why even bother having them work if they're going to sink firms? Just give them money to live and build their dumb socialist universities.
Easy, because you can't win elections without providing your voters with jobs. That's the only fucking thing that matters in America. It doesn't matter if losers that wouldn't vote for him are no suffering as long as Trump's supporters are employed and have a good wage.

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>>115242251
As someone in tech, there IS a shortage. Most American engineers are mediocre at best. All the top tier go to work for Google, Facebook, and Apple. That leaves all the other tech companies with the dregs who still demand $150K starting salaries just because they got an EE/CS degree.

>>115242427
What? Like offering them a good education, a pollution-free environment? Healthcare? A chance in life to rise above the status of their parents? What the fuck do you think I am, a socialist?

>>115240941

You mad, globalist shill? Sorry that our collective national interests don't align with your personal interests. The market will adapt, sorry that it's not in your favor this time.

>>115242806
And that is bad why?

>>115242508
Cheaper software very rarely = better software.
Just as more code rarely = better code.

A lot of issues we see on software stability, efficiency, and security are linked to the fact before the people working on these teams are incompetent. Their leads may be incredibly smart, but they can't micromanage every implementation that goes on underneath them.

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>>115242776

Globalist kikes and Pajeets BTFO

>>115242777
The problem being there won't be any firms hiring if they aren't competitive. The way a firm stays competitive, and this is really basic even an American should understand it, is deliver a better product for less.

>>115242942
An average engineer is not worth $150K. I would rather pay Sujal $80K knowing he will work his ass off.

>>115240247
Good riddance. We can out produce and out compete them if they move.

>>115243001
That implies there are foreign competitors with an equivalent skillset.

That's just not true at this time.

>>115241685
this,
>Pajeets in charge of coding

>>115243001
And that is where the next solution comes from: Devaluing the US dollar or becoming protectionist.
>>115243101
You are thinking from the pov of a company boss. They only make up a small minority of the US population.

>>115242987
>>115242892
Except, it's you...the public, who will suffer when the economy slows down and America can't innovate. I hope you're open to living in a trailer and getting food stamps. But, hey, you might not have insurance but MUH GUNS.

How can a country have fallen so far?

>>115242964
So, you're assuming something here. Cheaper software can bring in more money if it sells more copies than the better, but more expensive software. Why sell greatness when average will sell far, far more?

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>>115242713
oh fuck you its semantics you dumb enlightenment faggot, republicanism or neoliberalism is rooted in libertarian ideology. fucking neck yourself if you can't even make that distinction you stupid cuck faggot.

So what if economic efficiency says so? Maybe we should take time and work on ourselves because we're 'dumb' as you say.

This never ending quest for MUH GDP GROWTH and MUH 'CONOMY is toxic to any society or people.

Again this is not a shopping mall, it is a country, a nation, and a family. Look at Japan, they're doing pretty bad right now, but they admit that they would rather work on themselves than take the easy way out by importing foreigners for quick economic gain and growth.

You capitalist pigs need to be physically restrained or removed before you continue to destroy groups of people and nations in the name of shekels. Kike.

>>115242508
>Markets work best without government interference
H1-b visas aren't government interference how?

Besides the fact the Americans aren't considered for hiring because companies are allowed to import poor foreigners to work for less. If a field is competitive and profitable it will succeed no matter what the people making the product demand to be paid.

Artificially lowering the price of things does nothing but destroy an economy in the long run.

>>115243101
Working your ass off doesn't mean you'll get a solid piece of software.

There's likely a good reason why someone demanding 150k is required and why the guy offering 80k will likely leave you 230k in whole after everything is said and done.

>>115241916
they mind it. but what are they gonna do?

Americans have been brainwashed into thinking globalism is fine, and that it doesn't matter that Chinese children go blind assembling iphones as long as trans genders get their own bathroom.

we have enabled China to exploit billions of people just to barely compete with our GDP. surprised more politicians don't make this argument.

future generations will see our ambivalence towards workers' rights in Asia while still consuming the goods they produce as barbaric. same with factory farming

>>115240941
>regulating immigration is socialism
Christ, I actually hate libertarians more than leftists.

>>115243210
Like I said, I'm a republican and I will defend the job creators of this country. That's as American as apple pie. Can you believe what these ''Americans'' are saying, crying about how they're entitled to a quality lifestyle by accident of birth? This is like sick people demanding doctors take care of them or poorer children demanding that tax money be taken from our innovates and put to silly uses like education.

>>115240247
the whole H1B pyramid scam was devised by globalists as part of their race replacement scheme, it has nothing to do with worker shortage, skills shortage, or other smoke screen excuses

it is a corporate migrant smuggling scheme, as implemented with the migrant refugee scheme
Reminder that the "skilled labor shortage" is a sham.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

>>115243210
That's reality though. Small firms can't afford American top talent, so they use H1B guys.

>>115242806
I work for a company that is very similar to Symantec in size, but makes a lot more money.

I agree there is competition with google and apple who are down the street, but we realized we're better off hiring college students and natives rather than poo's who can barely speak the language or understand the culture.

We can get more by fostering and teaching these people than by getting an under performing indian. The trend is now changing towards college students.

But even if our domestic population is 'shit' then, yes we will take a hit, but when and where does this easy cop out of importing foreigners stop?

>>115242987
Pretty much lol

Infosys Pajeet tears

>>115243226
Average software is incompatible, crashes constantly, has security vulnerabilities, doesn't adapt to user needs, etc.

That's just not how the software industry works. You literally get what you pay for. Getting a competent engineer on the cheap doesn't exist.

>>115243416
But the long term cost of importing these foreigners to replace Americans in unfathomable.

>>115241604
Then every politiician in our history was a socialist and we've always been socialistsZ

>>115243474
All people are egoistic as fuck m8, nothing weird or wrong about that. If I had to let a baby starve so I could live, I would do it unless it was directly related to me.
>>115243574
Small tech companies don't even need people working in America, they can outsource that shit over the internet.

>>115243574
If you dont have money to poach top talent, train it, grow it.
If you cant even do that, you cant afford to run a business
HB1s decimated Americans, its a sell out visa
Killary wanted to raise the cap too

>>115243574
Most visas to go big companies though. They prefer visa holders because they have less bargaining power.

>>115242006
>equated cheaper workers to best employees in the same sentence.

>>115243416
As long as there are quality guys in charge, the Pajeets make good workhorses. I work with a lot of them. Some of my American colleagues can be real prima donnas.

>>115243574
If they couldn't use h1-b guys they would still survive, or fail and be replaced by something that can.

>>115243433
Americans have to be brainwashed because they lack the critical thinking skills to grasp basic economic realities of the 21st century. This isn't an American century. America is a country of 300 million people, half of whom are likely too dumb to be trusted with a toaster. India and China have billions, so of course they're going to produce better talent by statistical chance alone. America NEEDS those talented individuals to drive us forward, to become our doctors, etc. This is about putting America first. This is why advocating for immigration restriction is socialism. If you want to adopt socialist policies like job entitlement, healthcare for all, don't expect this country to be around long at all. From the founding America has been about getting the cheapest labor (see: slavery) and using it to fuel our economy. Now, the slaves are white as well as black, but it's the same America.

>>115243776
this is literally what the San Francisco Giants did before they became 3x world series winners

They fostered their farm players instead of going out and trying to poach big talent or getting cheap dominicans

>>115240247
If that was really an option, it would have happened over a decade ago

>>115243769
Outsourcing is bad optics, though. Many companies go for "insourcing" AKA importing Indians

>>115240941
>free market
lol who gives a fuck

100% free market =/= maximum happiness

>>115241266
My firm hires out of college at 90k and we're not on the coasts. Granted, most of them are morons but it's the only way to attract top talent.

Pay well, but always be ready to fire quickly. Cream rises to the top.

>>115243226
And that is where you have gone and contradicted yourself. See, makin average cheap shit just to sell is a huge brake on innovation. Especially if, as is the case nowadays, all major companies do this. You're ready to sell the future of your country for pennies.

>>115243689
Absolutely. But even from a business sense but perspective, it doesn't follow. I've seen several projects move from one company to the other and trade hands over decades because of financially affordable incompetence.

It's best to just bite the bullet and pay the guys that have the strongest resumes.

>>115243950
Go the fuck back to /leftypol/

>>115242511
hey nigger, its the indians choice to work for him for a shitty pay, it aint slave labor if they can still quit

>>115242942
>And that is bad why?

Because the entire Western economy is screaming for better software.

We're wasting countless billions a year on useless office labor just because there aren't enough software engineers.

>>115243474
>lincoln, washington, etc weren't americans
>only people who don't cherish any feelings for their countrymen are
Lynching would be too good for you people

>>115243950
600 million Indians are street shitters.

>>115244136
Why don't companies just train more then?

>>115240941
>Muh free market
>Falling for Jewish schemes this hard.

>>115244240
This

>>115243899
You're full of shit. The language barrier is annoying. They have constant trouble when it comes to following documentation. The handholding becomes ridiculous when you're shuffling taking because kirpal can't read enough English to grasp javadocs.

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>>115240941
>gotta jew fast!
Bringing in boatloads of literal Turd World niggers to undercut labor is called international communism you degenerate kike.

We hang your ilk first, globalist scum.

>>115243950
>India and China have billions, so of course they're going to produce better talent by statistical chance alone
If you have 10 brownies and 50% of them are poisoned and you have 100 brownies with 70% of them poisoned, which ones do you chose?
>>115244045
And that stops now. If all American companies have to hire domestically, none will be at disadvantage within the country.
>>115244136
>We're wasting countless billions a year on useless office labor just because there aren't enough software engineers.
As someone who is involved in that sector, a solution would be forcing universities to drop the requirements. I've seen courses decrease by over 80% within 2 years.

>>115241685
This. Every time CodeGuru goes down their productivity plummets. Not that it's terribly high to begin with.

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>>115240941
It's preliminary National socialism you globalist scum.

You don't screw over your countrymen by hiring cheap foreign labor, while taking advantage of the freedom and security provided to us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le-9uWKe2dk

>>115243689
>But the long term cost of importing these foreigners

We're talking about HB1's, right?
So they will be kicked back to India once they lose their value.

>>115244323
>>115244240

Because you need people with an IQ above 140 to write top-notch software, and you've pretty much exhausted all of yours. Besides, isn't the STEM meme long dead for smart Americans? Don't they all work in finance?

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>>115243226
>Except, it's you...the public, who will suffer when the economy slows down

No one believes you anymore, Sheckleberg. It's become increasingly clear that gobalism is contrary to our economic interests.

>>115243912
Oh they'd fail, but there is no such promise they'd be replaced. That's just wishful thinking. Or, the companies would just move to Canada...

>>115243844
From my point of view, better = what brings in more revenues in the short-term. In the long-term, who fucking cares I'll have sold the company or moved on. Or we'll just spend more on marketing.

>>115243679
There is a reason we don't all drive tanks and own airplanes, it's too expensive. A commercial manufacture of, well, anything understands that they can't just make the best, most expensive product that is objectively by every metric better then their competitor. There are trade-offs. People drive cars that are less safe because they're cheaper. They buy lower quality food because it's not the best, but it's acceptable. Look at the gaming industry, it's fucking huge, but it puts out rehashed shit every year. Why? It's cheaper and they know that the amount of consumers who buy it because it's cheap greatly outweigh the loss of customers who refuse to buy it because it's bad.

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>>115240941
>smart foreigners
>will work for less
Was being poor part of the plan?

>>115244059
No you don't. If you're some startup that's floating on venture funding that'll fold next month, maybe.

Industry standard is way below 90k. And you'd be paying 90k to people that most companies passed on.

DEAR GLOBALISTS & FAGGOTS:

IF YOU WANT POOS GO 2 INDIA

>>115244136
>>115244240
I know it's a meme, but you can't train a mediocre engineer to be great. You can go from mediocre to good, but the best engineers just have it, intuitively. At that point, the best thing to do is give them the space, freedom and support to innovate. (And a team of serfs... uh, I mean good engineers to multiply their productivity.)

>>115240496
>>115240496

>>whites invent control systems technology

>>whites invent entire fields of mathematics and electronics in a single generation that allows computational systems to function

>>whites invent programming languages as abstract systems of data input to replace complicated machine code

>>muh superior Indians look at us!!!! You need us h1b super scholars who can't figure out how soap or deodorant work

>>115241685
>pajeet code
>no comments
>generic variable names like 'x or, "id1"
>chunks of code that, upon close examination, are artifacts left over from some other project that don't actually do anything anymore.
Fuck pajeet code. They're basically the Shakespeare's Monkeys of computer programming. There are a few that have gone full autism and understand the intricacies of certain systems at the cost of all social skills , but the vast majority are just haphazardly cobbling things together.

>>115243474
>Like I said, I'm a republican and I will defend the job creators of this country as they move those jobs to pajeetistan

>>115244090
Lefty? You think this a leftist idea? This is business. It's not political. I see workers who will work for less, allowing my company to earn more, and I want to EXERCISE MY RIGHT TO FREEDOM to do so, even if it means not hiring as many Americans. Hire Americans for what they're best at, social media and crying about stuff like guns and god.

>>115244432
>a solution would be forcing universities to drop the requirements.

lol what?
So make degrees even LESS useful?

Yeah, let's make it even harder to find SKILLED software engineers..... - great plan.

>>115244590
Canada is a dying country

>>115242006
>cheaper is better

globalist shill detected

>>115240802
I would find a different job, I hate working with Indians

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>>115243546
>the whole H1B pyramid scam was devised by globalists as part of their race replacement scheme, it has nothing to do with worker shortage, skills shortage, or other smoke screen excuses

>Israel flag

>>115240161
Thank fuck its time they did something

Literally my single issue vote

>>115244526
Yes, but those guys aren't the majority we're importing. There must be a way to select for a few top tier workers without bringing in hordes and cutting into our own people.

>>115241178
>>115240941
Found the currynigger

>>115244887
The standards are already lower in India and otherwhere than in the West.

>>115244703
This.

I'm stuck interviewing jr. and sr. level engineers 5 times a month.

And there's often just those guys that just get it. There's no unknowns, they have every trait that makes a good engineer..

Those are the guys that when we talk about after the interview we argue who's going to place them on which of our projects.

>>115244956

True that. Raising the H1B cap to ~100k should work then, right?

>>115244590
>wishful thinking
It's worked so far.

Only recently has the world been reeling from so much economic, political and societal uncertainty.

And only recently has globalism become such a trend.

>>115244781
>vast majority are just haphazardly cobbling things together.

Most American coders are just as bad.

>>115244587
>>115244517
>>115244361

Jews are pretty leftest. This idea has been the guiding ideology of the GOP for a long, long time. If America didn't believe this ideology, of free markets, totally free markets, when why are the House and Senate filled with those who support these ideas?

>>115245060

Minimum salary requirement* not cap

Can we start deporting, too?

There is nothing more irritating than having a pile of poos talking in the hall near your office. CAN YOU NOT YELL AS LOUD AS POSSIBLE AND TALK LIKE ANY OTHER NORMAL PERSON ON THE PLANET

THANK YOU

>>115244760
Indians like to brag a lot. One guy copy&pastes and whole country takes credit for his monkeying success. Their mentality is absolutely shit and the country is infested with such morons.

>>115244956
Tougher than you'd think. Even their 'respected' schools are diploma mills. GPA inflation and fraud are rampant. We've even flown guys over there to interview directly to see if it would improve our ability to spot the best ones. Nope.

No, fucking damn it, why now?! I finally got to work on my portfolio thinking I could apply for a job in SF. REEEE!!!

>>115244604
Sounds like someone who's underpaid :^)

>>115244863
No, its a leftist idea to despise your countrymen and do whatever you can to undermine or ignore their interests with the end goal or product being the destruction of the country and people that birthed you.

>>115245231
Nothing like getting Vietnamese calling in from UC Irvine to bullshit us on what SQL injection is.

The fob couldn't even Google the shit considering it was a phone interview.

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>>115243226
>The economy will grind to a halt because we can't make shitty software made by streetshitters sold at premium prices!
Lol okay.

>>115245292
You'll thank us later. You do not want to work with the west coast faggots.

>>115240941

I don't. I simply choose to use the government to make you not be able to sell here or be able to use this country as a safe ground. If you want to leave america and go somewhere else, fine. The government is not forcing you to stay here, but the government is saying, if you want to sell here or be in this country, you have to abide by these rules. Nothing is stopping you from completely leaving america and sell your shit to Indians while hiring Indians etc.

This is a race to the bottom, of course Americans can't compete with globalism, american workers have rights, and are less numerous, which gives each worker more value. And the people have every right to elect a president who takes us out of the global marked with a protectionist economy so that companies can compete against each-other using the exact same american rules, in america while competing for the american peoples money.

>>115240948
this.

you have to work as a programmer with them to truly realize how incapable they are of anything new or innovative, they just copy and they copy badly

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>>115244781
>chunks of code that, upon close examination, are artifacts left over from some other project that don't actually do anything anymore.

I really shouldn't be suprised when I see a dozen lines that do nothing except undo whatever the previous operation did, and yet here I am.

Good. But it's not enough.

>>115240247
Cool, then we can tax poogle.

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All according to plan, best timeline is best

>>115244956
>cutting into our own people.

What are you talking about?

Every skilled programmer who isn't a complete aspie can find a job easily.

>>115241028
my gf is persian :3

>>115240161
FUCK YES

SINK THE CHINKS

DELETE PAJEET

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>>115240161
>Trump backstabbing indians

>>115244905
America is dying, too. That doesn't mean there isn't money to be made. It's not bleeding a stone at this point, but it's getting close.

Here is America, a country once a global power of economic and military might, reduced to a neo-Feudalistic society where we celebrate our chains. The people fight against the chance to break their chains. They don't want what every other developed nations has. They want to wallow in sorrow because suffering is a virtue (Jesus, LOL) and they're only ONE STEP AWAY from being millionaires. This idiotic nonsense is best displayed when the poor cry about the DEATH TAX. Guess what? That tax only applies to people with an estate in excess of more than $5,000,000. Your trailer isn't worth that much. Your used car isn't worth that much. Your dumpy children aren't worth that much. Since the beginning, America has been a dumping ground. The colonies were to be the dump of English refuse who could be put to work and earn their betters money. We're coming full circle back to that, and everyone here is excited about it? Nah, this country is trash.

>>115245349
I make well above that. I interview our perspective sr. and jr. level engineers.

I also don't work at a company who's product depends on 20 years of venture capitol before turning a profit. We also don't fly in dinner from the east coast as an employee perk.

>>115241028
Correct, that's what the name Iran comes from too.

>>115240941
DESIGNATED

>>115245292
Trust me you do not want to have to interact with Indians

>>115245568
They should learn to shit in a toilet and then we can talk

>>115245568
lol BBC world service last night ran a story about some guy that got shot who happened to be Indian. They interviewed his sister or something like that

>I wanted to go to america
>I know how awful muslims are but I believed they were nice people in america
>I thought it's not like how I see in the movies
>But now I'm too scared to go

LOL

>>115245417
Ask a Pajeet to create a periodic worker thread and watch him sweat chana masala.

im a gook, who went to middle school, high school, top state uni, and top stem grad school here. am i acceptable, anons?

>>115245804
You skipped out on nursery school and elementary school? Sorry, you have to go back, cheater.

>>115245569
You're ignorant and full of shit. Many talented people, like the quakers or the sons of primigeniture families, came here and many states have a higher iq than any european country. You start by saying that immigration control is inamerican and then proceed to say that americans are trash and nothing matters. You're spewing bullshit to justify your subhuman lust for material objects, nothing more.

>>115245353
What? What world are we living in right now? Right-wing American politics is all about fostering business at the expense of the population. Look at the ACA. It had a public option, but the insurance lobby rightly knew this would put them out of business because they couldn't compete. So, the GOP made the Democrats drop the public option. The public made the necessary sacrifice here, that's smart. The free market is always better than government.

>>115240941
Then leave. We don't want you here.

>>115245077
Thanks to the conversion of American universities from educational institutions into liberal indoctrination centers.

We really need a new civil war to burn out all the rot.

>>115244956
They do its called O-visas

>>115241095
The fuck? You ever been to top half of California? It's only Spics, Asians, and Poos around here.

>>115245887
>nursery
>elementary
who is william buckley

>>115245628
>>115245404
>>115245399
Indians are the laziest pieces of shit I've ever met. Some of my friends work in engineering and they always have to clean their shit up because you fuckers don't know how to code.

Also >poo in loo ≠ intellectual
nice try triggering posts though, you can't change your dirty skin color and you can't change that you're pretty much a joke as a people.

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>>115245097
>left/right false dichotomy

Jews are GLOBALIST.
Ayn Rand was no leftist, but the end result of her ideals is exactly the same worldwide subjugation by an all-powerful elite.

Totally free markets on the INTERNATIONAL scale are a sham.

The free market is for
>within the country,
>and comparable European/ 1st world nations

Not for the 3rd world factory hordes.

Pure capitalism and communism are two sides of the same shekel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s

>>115240941

dont flatter yourself poojeet

contrary to (((globalist))) propaganda you are not a nation of Einsteins and Oppenheimers

(((we))) smuggled you turds in for the great race replacement scheme and brazilification of white countries and not for your glorified copy-paste skills

you are on par with welfare leeching illegal Bonobos and Pedros, except you get corporate welfare from Jewish companies and political interests to promote the race replacement agenda

>>115240884
Been a CodeMonkey for 20 years. Broke 80k the first time last year

>>115242776
He's supposed to be the bad guy?

>>115245060

Also, put something like a $25,000 dollar annual excise on the work visas; if sufficiently talented Americans really are that hard to find, that should still be saving you money.

>>115245097
>If America didn't believe this ideology

If we believed that, we would have elected Hillary.

Also, maybe read some history? For most of it's existence, this country has been aggressively protectionist.

>>115245399
>This is a race to the bottom, of course Americans can't compete with globalism

To elaborate, the 'benefit' of Free Trade here is that we have the opportunity to burn down three centuries of improving standards of living and quality of life so a few hedge fund managers can give each other an extra .5% yield for however long it takes us to burn through our inheritance.

>>115246047
Just got a message from the president of my former uni updating us on the great future plans (to get more alum donations). He was all about how the board of trustees and and special focus groups worked really hard to present a glorious plan:

1. more diversity
2. psychological services
3. more diversity
4. training classes on how to obtain more diversity
5. special ceremonies to honor more donors

Guess we won't be needing any shades for this "bright" future.

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Oh my gosh.....what would we ever do without Indian programmers

The software companies are making millions and they hire rejects from overseas that write shit programs that conform with their dimwit brains from living in a toilet

Fuck you fucks that want to allow foreign invaders

>>115245927
Go back further to even before the colonies were a reality. They were proposed as a dump for English refuse. Those that touted the idea and sought funds sold their plans as a win-win, less trash and more money for the Crown. This worked, and despite SOME exceptions, most of the original colonists didn't come here for religious reasons, they came because they were common scum. The chance of exile or imprisonment (which meant death) was offered, and the condemned chose exile to the colonies. Of course, this experiment failed and the early colonies didn't do anything but cost money as poor tend to be unproductive and stupid.

>>115240247
they can't, all their patents are filed in the US.

>>115241178
You're nothing but a kike. A filthy, disgusting, leech of a Jew. There's a bullet with your name on it.

>>115240941
>accuses others of using the government as a tool
>literally advocates using the government as a tool to fuck his countrymen out of jobs

Libtard hypocrisy strikes again.

>>115243950

> no qualified American candidates.

in a nation of 300+ mill, there is no such thing as not being able to find a qualified American. it is pure deception.

that excuse works in lil countries like Iceland or Bahamas, but not US


the HR is to blame for their incompetence

H1B is simply a human trafficking scheme that is part of race replacement agenda

>>115245569
>JESUS, LOL

Stopped reading there. Its one thing to be a fedora (I'm one) but you're tipping to hard to be worth listening to kiddo.

>>115242713
This is exactly why trump won, you're a cuckservative. You have no nationalism or pride of nation. You would sell your own kid if the price was high enough.

>>115246323
How is this relevant at all? Only the smallest portion of their blood would be in our veins today, never mind your revisionist nonsense. You are a liar and worshipper of mere currency.

>>115246295
Sad, but Trump, your lord and savior, is going to cut the taxes on those managers and make sure they invest their wealth to gain more political power. Funny, isn't it? Keep being proud of your chains.

- Let Pajeet come over.
- He automates 100 low skilled jobs and goes back to India


- Deny access to Pajeet.
- Have to import 100 Mexicans to do the jobs he couldn't automate.


Real smart, Trumpards.

>>115246080
>mfw had to move to Bay Area from Europe because reasons
>mfw sometimes I don't see another White person for a week

>>115242006
>best employees at the best cost

You have no idea how bad these people are at what they do. They are hired because they are disposable. No benefits given, crappy wage, and if they speak up their visa isn't renewed. It's modern day slavery. What you are discussing is the original intention of H1B. It hasn't turned out that way.

>>115246323
Jesus Christ I wish you and your family were dead you fucking kike. Fuck off and die.

>>115246714
Mexicans walk across the border instead of having to fly. It's better for global warming that way.

>>115242713

indians end up destroying the company and the company goes out of business. There's like 500 companies that were taken over by indians and ALL of them went out of business

anyone who outsources to them will have their company ruined OR will have to hire white knight American consultants to fix the mess they've created.

alot of companies are bailed out by these dumb white knight goys who fix the failed systems created by pajeet

these white knights who keep the company afloat are usually then fired for multicultural reasons

see >>115243546

>>115240161
/g/ is gonna be happy

>>115241239
Good, which is the name of higher-trier visa btw?
also
>m8 ruS

>>115246714
Are you retarded?

>>115246447
The reality is that the American entry level candidates are just as qualified as the poos as far as work experience goes.

The only thing you're buying by hiring Americans for entry level is making the software more reliable, secure, and efficient namely because of work ethic and lack of language barriers.

Hiring Americans over poos is not going to lead to a huge insurgence of of highly talented engineers being discovered. Most of those guys are already working.. and leading the poos/correcting their broken shit.

It will mean that we'll likely have slightly less egg on our faces when it comes to huge software mishaps though. Simply because we're hiring people that can read the fucking manual and are somewhat competent at googling their problems.

>>115246601
I'm greedy, but greed isn't a vice it's an American virtue. How the fuck can a nation lionize someone like Carnegie, Rockefeller, Leland Stanford, Trump all the while screaming that GREED IS BAD! So, if I'm a worshiper at the alter of capitalism, you're right beside me paying your respects. The only difference is, you make a sacrifice without knowing it.

>>115246447
We can't force qualified people to relocate to us. Foreigners want to relocate.

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Hold up dumbys

USCIS has only suspended "Premium Processing" which allows employers to pay $1000 for a decision in two weeks. They are still, as of now, going to process just as many H-1Bs between April and October and just as many Pajeets are going to come in.

Not to black pill anyone, but don't be let down when you hear they are still handing out H-1Bs.

>>115246714
Boss hires Indian company to build e commerce site and run social media campaign. I explain India and why so cheap, get overruled. Say OK but please don't give them access to servers or passwords. He does it anyway but doesn't tell me.
Thinks its an absolute success with hundreds of people signed up in the first few weeks.
Site is zencart install
Signups are all fakes with uploads from a database.
Our servers are now being used to send Viagra spam.
All orders created are scams to po boxes with stolen cards.

>>115246670

No way? cutting taxes of those hedge-managers that stay in america and making them stay here? How awful. He is punishing people for leaving america and undercutting workers, he isn't after punishing them in general. You're not arguing socialists, but nationalists here. This capitalism evil stuff doesn't actually work here, because we're anti-globalist, not anti-capitalist.

Free-trade countrywide, and not world-wide is the solution, and if we can make it easier for businesses inside the country to start up and reward them for being successful, why not.

>>115246799
>G0y

>>115247049
STOP HACKING BULLY RUSSIA!

>>115246714
I work in IT business and sometimes it takes 3 Indian compsci "doctors" to do one man's job

I have worked with indian """""""engineers"""""".

They are living scum, you can explain them how to do stuff 100 times, they will pretend they got it and inevitably still be able to fuck up. If they manage to climb the ranks they will start thinking they are living demigods and start treating subordinates so bad, the enitre productivity gets fucked up and they get demoted again.
I currently work as a supervisor into a chip plant, first thing i did was firing every single pajeet i could get my hands on (with the exception of a single based sikh bro) and told the manager not to send me any more indians or i'm out.

Worthless curry monkeys

>>115247020
Die you globalist Jew.

>>115247047
He's cutting their taxes regardless if they invest in moving American jobs out or bringing them in.

>>115246447
>in a nation of 300+ mill, there is no such thing as not being able to find a qualified American.

300 million inhabitants.
200 million of whose of working age.
10 million of those with IQ above 130.
5 million of those male.
100.000 of those pick a career in software.
95.000 of those not complete social retards.

It's nowhere enough.

>>115247122
>they will pretend they got it and inevitably still be able to fuck up
This is exactly what I mean.

They have the gall to lie to my face like they understood what the documentation said.

Even when you pull down code chunks and show them exactly what it does, they'll still insist in their broken English that what they did wasn't retarded.

>>115240247
Who?

>>115247023
Yeah but no expedited process means the company will be forced to choose a hire sooner. They'll want a guarantee that they'll stay, so hiring American becomes safer.

>>115247122
>first thing i did was firing every single pajeet i could get my hands on (with the exception of a single based sikh bro) and told the manager not to send me any more indians or i'm out.
#YOLO

Every once in a while I admire how ruthless and racist the chosen can be.

>>115246373
>>literally advocates using the government as a tool to fuck his countrymen out of jobs
Can you please explain?

>>115247020
Carneige gave away vast swaths of his fortune in death.

Rockefeller was a devout Christian and philanthropist throughout his life.

Read a book sometime you stupid Gordon Gecko LARPing kiddo

>>115247250

The very OP of this thread said he punished visas, which allows them to take in cheap workers, so according to the very OP, he isn't. Not in this case anyway.

>>115247259
This is why the entry level software dev exists.

They take marching orders from software leads. That's it.

>>115247250

he also killed nafda and TPP

>>115247410
u wot m8?

Carnegie was an outspoken proponent of having the US rejoin the British Empire. Globalists are going to get the rope.

>>115247004
poos not even once
poos are beyond incompetence

you must be bobbin on some curry crack to even consider poos are on par w/ entry level Americans
>>115247020
>relocate
doesnt matter if it is Detroit, NY, Cali, Texas, your whites are being racially replaced

sure some places like detroit or alaska have difficulty attracting natives, but then the company isnt doing the job of attracting people and offering incentives

face it these pajeets dont stay with their h1b sponsor either, once their green card arrives, they join an indian run company

and the cycle repeats by replacing the ex-h1b pajeet with more h1b pajeets

the reality is your country never had a problem producing qualified engineers and workers throughout its history especially now with a population of 300 mill, a few places like detroit need to develop incentives to attract, but your h1b scam is nation wide race replacement

>>115247045
>Oy Vey I work in e-commerce

>>115247122
>Oy Vey I work in a chip plant

Nice try, Schlomo

>>115247020
>none of those people are remembered as great
>all the greatest ones, lincoln, tr, washington weren't greedy
>"we rich are superior"
>he says after demonstrating ignorance of basic history

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>>115240941
What? How is it not using government power when you bring these people into the country? Who grants the visas? Hint: it's The State Department.

based Trump

>>115247528
Politics aside its hard to say he was greedy when he threw away as much money as he did to charity

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>>115246294
>Comic book writers make bad guy a reference to current events
>Everything he's saying is unironically true
>They unironically think what he said was bad
>This is Marvel now

>>115247360
All of the H-1Bs under the cap will be issued and 85,000 subcontinentals show up on October 1 all the same. Unless Congress lowers the cap before April 1

>>115247434
Because they are unqualified curryniggers

Indians can buy fake qualifications from diploma mills that don't get verified because muh brown skin

Whites have to go through university to get the same qualification in their countries
Some dipshit middle manager before my current one moved both ops and security to India and our programming team to fucking CHINA

6 months later the dumb bitch is behind schedule by at least a quarter and we're over budget by like 3 fucking MILLION dollars. She got fired, thank god.

My current manager shifted all of our Ops back and re-outsourced our security to a US-based company in the same timezone for less money and they've already caught a bunch of shit the pajeets didn't (like entire fucking subnets weren't shipping logs)

Now I have to get everything in place to "insource" dev and get our shit back on track.

fucking pajeets, man

>>115244863
>This is business. It's not political.
Business IS politics in the world of globalist corporations and capitalist monopolys.

>>115247410
Okay, but how did he get vast swaths of money to give away? He wasn't going around paying everyone a living wage, giving them the best safety equipment, etc. He was undercutting his competition like the ruthless capitalist he is, that's why he's admired. His loyalty was to money. You think Standard Oil would have grew as large as it did if it respected the jobs and well-being of the companies it put out of business? Right...

I'm sure every lionized industrialist was happy to put the livelihood of their countrymen first over profits.

>>115247542
>poos not even once
>poos are beyond incompetence
>you must be bobbin on some curry crack to even consider poos are on par w/ entry level Americans

Do enough interviews with entry level devs, you'll realize they're all pretty shit.

But re-read my post. I said that curry devs suffer from complete disinterest in becoming stronger engineers and have such a thick language barrier that communicating with them the intricacies of software engineering is impossible.

>>115247613
He's a neo-liberal.

They want to abolish all borders.
They are the reason the EU got swamped with low skilled immigrants.

>>115247589
are you really that stupid, curry nigger?

this is a rhetorical question.

>>115247613
>Who grants the visas? Hint: it's The State Department.

WRONG

actually wrong-ish. DHS decides if the alien is H-1B eligible. State issues the visa foil, but the only hold it up if the alien is a criminal.

>>115247796
Not really charity. It's control of the flow of money in order to achieve his personal interests while looking good as a PR stunt.

I'm not going to say some good things weren't left behind in the process, but I would invite you to read, "Foundations: Their Power and Influence" which summarizes the findings of the Reece Commission investigating the anti-American activities of the tax-free foundations in order to expand your understanding. "The Creature from Jekyll Island" is also good in this respect.

>>115247861
Yup. Then an actual human being like TR cuts you down with no effort and suddenly morality matters again and you're crying about le ebil big gov.

>>115247259
>5 million of those male.
T R I G G E R E D

>>115246714
>pajeet
>automating anything
Fucking kill me. As if America doesn't have DOZENS of white phds struggling to find a job.

Pajeets... Doing fucking anything. You'll have to spend TWICE this sum because it won't fucking work, ever, their code, their engineering of worst quality. I'm asking -- please use your phds and rewrite all the code for them, all these python libraries -- pajeets did it horribly, we are already experiencing the results...

tl; dr: Pajeet, you have to go back! Go back to your starving country, starving people walking on the streets. Don't pretend you don't have them! This is your real country! No other country will be ever yours!

>>115247526
The TPP was dead in the water. Clinton would have killed it, too. Trump loves to claim credit for shit he didn't actually do, Carrier? Yeah, enjoy that automation. How about the F-35? Those ''savings'' were already in the pipe. How about the Keystone XL pipeline steel having to be made in the U.S.? Guess what, it's not and American steel won't be used because IT'S NOT FUCKING COMPETITIVE.

>>115247259
We functioned fine for centuries without you dirty shitbags. Having worked alongside your ilk I can easily say we could function without you. In fact a lot of the mess in our current IT systems are highly likely CAUSED by you.


As a programmer, a good portion of my work is just fixing some garbage a pajeet left behind, and I can charge an obscene amount of money for it.

I work in the field of computer science. The poos are what we use for work that we aren't serious about. Corporate hassle is a drag, and I can't get any fucking thing done without triplicating forms upon forms of grade A horse shit that nobody reads. Typically the way things work is like this: White IT people make a beautiful, fast, fluid application in a state that does not include a lot of useless features, this gets sent to the poos where they toss in a fuckton of bloat until it breaks, then we sit and fix and refine until it is fast and fluid again, then back to the poos for more bloat and ruin. This cycle continues forever, it's my job to unfuck poojeet poogramming over and over and over again. So, basically no new software ever gets developed, and every once in a while we lose a vast sum of money due to down time created by the poos. This is, of course, accompanied by massive downsizing, constant fear of lay-offs, and 22 managers per every 1 worker.

>>115248119
By "competitive" you of course mean "cheap" right?

>>115245569
>They don't want what every other developed nations has.

Which is what, exactly? Mohammedan rapists?

>>115245927

Don't forget the bit where a signfigant fraction of the English aristocracy decided to move over here after that whole Cromwell thing.

>>115245939
>ACA public option
>Bankrupt all other insurance providers
>Government runs healthcare
>Alinsky.exe

>>115246670

So then the excise needs to be higher. It's like you have no understanding of incentives.

Are you the next evolution of the CTRobot? It seems like you're saying allot with no comprehension of any of the matters you're discussing.

>>115246967

I think it's the O-series.

>>115247020
>Carnegie, Rockefeller, Leland Stanford

Weren't they around back when our economic policy was unapologetically protectionist?

>>115247023

What this does is buy them time, at least another month, to come up with a more permanent solution. H1B season starts in early April, and they'll have less to bitch about a change is you make it clear they won't be hearing back by May.

Also, more time to bring USCIS into compliance.

>>115247250
>Cut taxes
>Punish outsourcers

So the wealth stays here, and the reduced taxes and more favorable environment mean people like you don't have ground to stand on when you bitch about what it does to Muh GDP.

Maybe you shouldn't have brought this up.

>>115240161

Nice. Thanks President Trump!

>>115240247
>Shitty Vultures

>>115247122
>I currently work as a supervisor into a chip plant, first thing i did was firing every single pajeet i could get my hands on (with the exception of a single based sikh bro) and told the manager not to send me any more indians or i'm out.

Have you mentioned this story on an H1B thread before? Because I think I remember seeing an Israel flag talking about Pajeets and a chip factory.

>>115247542
>you must be bobbin on some curry crack to even consider poos are on par w/ entry level Americans

Or be a decision-maker sufficiently detached from actual operations, I think.

>>115247935
>neo-liberal
Basically bullshit artists.

>>115247999
Regardless, it's the federal government.

>>115248242
>Weren't they around back when our economic policy was unapologetically protectionist?
And in the case of Rockefeller in particular, taking down the protectionism was a primary goal.

>>115247824
A common story. If you don't keep an eye on them, they go off the reservation real quick.

You need a strong engineering lead to watch them and deal with them on a daily basis or you'll get a steaming pile of shit. Which is why the h1-b program even exists. They import them because the engineering leads will not be fucked with going to India and they know that.

If you ask John the software lead to go to india to oversee how the integration with the existing controller interface is going; he'll say "Fuck you, I got a job offer for 8% more that doesn't require me going to India."

The problem is John is afraid of being racist so he doesn't say, "I wish these curry niggers would learn English. I'm getting tired of translating documentation to Punjab"

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>>115246480
wew lad

>>115245568
You have to go back to fear the LOO witch.

>>115240941
>free market
You're free to go to India and open your business there.

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>>115240247
Fake.

Intellectual labor is abundant in the USA, it's just not immigrant from Asia levels of cheap and controllable.

As US citizens get access to SV, you'll see the entrepreneur spirit of them create competitive enterprises to significantly deflate the current monopolies.

Get it?

>>115248089
>As if America doesn't have DOZENS of white phds struggling to find a job.

PhD's in bullshitology, yes.

>>115248175
Fucking this. Based Israeli knows.

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>>115240161

>>115247861
All these edges cutting my eyeballs

Rockefeller was well known for treating his employees fairly. He gave paid vacations to his workers.
Standard Oil grew to dominance because he mastered vertical the best and played the fuck out of the railroads.

Seriously try reading a biography of him sometime, I read Titan myself when I was in an edgy MUH ALL I NEED IS MUH GREED phase and came away humbled.

He gave over half his fortune to charity dummy.

>>115240161
Yay, pojeets are staying home and make india superpower by 2020

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>>115247122
based

>>115248119

I hear a lot of would have here, good if they would've, but trump DID.

enjoy the automation? oh wow now, so we're getting cool machines in the US that does it, and you get it cheaper, great, so why are you complaining then?

I'd rather have automation than have jobs go to third worlders working for jack shit. makes no difference to me. and shouldn't to you either. You always want cheaper shit, and more money, wouldn't automation be cheaper than hiring third worlders? great, trump provided a fantastic option for you. You're welcome.

Competitive to what exactly btw? the world? I don't care. I want corporations in america to compete on american terms, not world terms. So take your muh neo-liberal globalism elsewhere.

>>115247880
>Do enough interviews with entry level devs, you'll realize they're all pretty shit.

i've seen retards pass interviews w/ flying colors only to prove that the interviewer should be gulag'd

and i've seen the opposite


CGI comes to mind

I have it on good authority that the Obamacare system that failed when the floodgates were first opened was made by the Indian branch of CGI...

obamacare system launch failure caused by poojeets was major news here and entirely exposed the h1b scam and hindu IT supremecy b.s

the whole H1B pyramid scam was devised by globalists as part of their race replacement scheme, it has nothing to do with worker shortage, skills shortage, or other smoke screen excuses

it is a corporate migrant smuggling scheme, as implemented with the migrant refugee scheme

the soros/globalists destroy everything


CGI Group, Firm That Botched Obamacare Site, Gets $4.87M Extension

http://investorplace.com/2014/02/cgi-group-contract-extension-obamacare-accenture/


CGI in congressional crosshairs over Obamacare rollout

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/canadas-cgi-at-centre-of-us-probe-after-botched-obamacare-rollout/article14988515/


Montreal-based CGI under fire for delays and glitches plaguing Obamacare website tech firm helped build

http://business.financialpost.com/fp-tech-desk/montreal-based-cgi-under-fire-for-delays-and-glitches-plaguing-obamacare-website-tech-firm-helped-build

>>115248776
Yes, and the Clinton Foundation and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation probably count as charity to you, along with Planned Parenthood.

>>115248519
>And in the case of Rockefeller in particular, taking down the protectionism was a primary goal.

Right, but then we get back to the fact that a lot of these people are hardly lionized.

>>115240247
intel is moving back from china.

the software giants if anything are the most incapable of moving.

Software is just knowledge written down in a foreign language, If you transfer everything to india everyone has to reread and understand the code and how the code was put together. Its like you have 10,000 authors to an ever expanding book and then all of a sudden you decide to fire all those authors and have 15,000 new people start rereading it from the start before you can write a single new word.

sv is the least likely industry to move overseas.

>>115240247
Fuck Silicon Valley

FUCK

YES

>>115240941
America first, cunt.

>>115248688
No it's not bullshitology you filthy projecting pajeet. Just because phds are not used by their primary function doesn't mean it's bs. They are working hard as fuck, they are actually studying stuff and have a higher level of functioning than you.

What IS bullshit is ANY of the pajeet certificates, that they FAKE and FAKE and FAKE.

>>115247259
You don't need an IQ of 130 to be a programmer. 105 or higher is all you need.

>>115248242
Please, you know what I mean, socialism. Socialist policies like legislating who a business can and cannot hire. That's socialism.

Oh boy, government is EVIL and more tinfoil. The fact is, the GOP decided that your health was far, far less important than the profits of the insurance industry. Medicare and Medicaid control costs significantly better than private industry, but fuck that free market is best market, right? Stop with this tinfoil nonsense.

No, because cutting the taxes of some random manage doesn't mean the wealth is going to stay here. They could, literally, invest in a firm that helps companies outsource under these new rules, profit off of that, then be taxed less and support political bodies that then cut their taxes further and make immigration easier. These people aren't being punished at all, they're being rewarded for making risky bets with money they know the government will give them if they go insolvent.

Protectionist economic policies largely apply to dealing with other countries. What about cut-throat competition within the country? We all need to eat, and if boss X says we'll pay you dogshit but feed you, you'll take that job. Now, when boss Y says, ''hey! I'll pay you more!'' you'll go there, until boss X develops a method to automate your job then you get fired and replaced with a machine.

>>115248028
Yes the fact that he built libraries across the country because he believed in the value of self-education was part of the globalist cabal thing.

Seriously if you want to fellate someone for being a greedy rich fuck use Zuckerberg or the neuvo-rich like him, that nigger hasn't done shit for anyone

Alot of shills trying to defend third world immigration in this thread

>>115248971
*not bullshitology -- in math, computer science etc

>>115248862
Trust me, I know a lot of details about the CGI Obamacare rollout flop.

I'll just say, the companies that were rolled in to fix the issue don't outsource to India and won't hire anyone that isn't fluent in English.

>>115240729
What is SV?

>>115248971
phd : too much non-transferable skills, which doesn't really mean much, compared to masters with real experience

>>115248119
>Clinton would have killed TPP

Now you've just gone full retard.

>>115248971
I would like to mention that Russians here on visa are relatively rare, and that while I'm not going to suggest that all Russians are really smart and not niggers, at least the ones that make it here on visa have in my experience been bright and hard working.

>>115240161
Amelica Fulst

>>115249139
silicon valley

>>115248175
To clarify: I'm 100% white native Dutch.

I have my own software company and finding skilled software engineers is my #1 challenge.
I never hired any Indians, but I have hired several Romanians and Moldovan.

I just get a little pissed when (((you))) spread dirty lies about the IT job market.

>>115249139
Silicon Valley

>>115249055
Please try to pay attention. I never said shit about the libraries, or the museums for that matter. But that's hardly the extent of how he spent his money.

>>115249071
They are probably third world migrants themselves thinking that host nations really can't do without them.

>>115249040
As long as you're depending on Intel's single-threaded performance.

>>115244939
Israeli Jews with American citizenship are kinda based and honestly in my experience they implicitly want a majority white America lol

>>115240161
FUCK IMMIGRATION

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>>115241642
>south Fremont
I'm up the hill from you. Weird.

>>115249055
murican' eduction
Nouveau*****

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>>115249040
Then why do you need pajeets?

>>115248843
Automation can be a great thing if the benefits of automation are distributed properly. If I can fire hundreds of employees, pocket the profits, and tell them to fuck off they get nothing all the while lobby to keep even MORE of the money be cutting my taxes, that's a raw deal for the worker don't you think?

>>115248917
Intel made their bed by dumping billions into hiring under-qualified SJWs into their ranks after firing off huge amounts of talent.

>>115249394
Education*

>>115248971
They aren't software engineers.

I can't use people with a PhD in sociology or women's studies.
I need software engineers.

>>115249174
The TPP had no support outside of industry. Clinton campaigned against it. It was a great deal for American companies, but American workers were too entitled to realize that Wall Street's interests are Main Street's interests.

>>115249508
A friend of mine basically offered to get me a job and join him as a plant manager because of the brain drain there and him having to go personally do other peoples' jobs all the time.

>>115249444

And the alternative is you doing the exact same shit, except moving to india and hiring slaves, makes no difference to the american workers.

>>115249223
here's the deal, slavemaster

during the tech bust, and economic recession 2000-2005/7, native US engineers had practically no job prospects and became unemployed, thousands of applicants to few positions, at the same time poojeets h1b were recruited left and right, given jobs en-masse

then another bigger bust from 2008-2012/3, more poojeets recruited to replace the whites

natives became discouraged at engineering professions as they saw unfair, discriminatory hiring practices: racial replacement agenda under the guise of skills shortage and diversity

There are a couple of lawsuits out there in which US citizens who were displaced en masse in favor of citizens of poo-in-loo are suing under anti-discrimination statutes for discrimination in hiring due to national origin.


the openly criminal discriminatory and illegal hiring practices of companies has not been brought to justice

they have abused the system to implement large-scale human trafficking under their race replacement/genocide agenda on par with the migrant crisis in europe

the IT industry is just one example, in healthcare, nurses that were fired to have them replaced by indian/flip FOB under the guise of diversity

There are companies that fired their US programmers/nurses and forced them to train their own replacements, threatening to withhold their severance packages if they refused to train the Indians.


after years of illegal and discriminatory hiring practices, whites became discouraged, as was part of the plan

so now poos dominate, as was planned

i know white dutch programmers that struggled for opportunities during times when poos where recruited en-masse

>>115248917
>sv is the least likely industry to move overseas.

Though my understanding is that California is loosing it's grip on the Tech industry.

Of course, moving to Texas or New York is hardly the same as moving to Pajeetland.

>>115249051
>That's socialism.

But what if we combined it with some kind of national ideology to avoid it's self-destructive tenancies? Some kind of... Social Nationalism?

>>115249655
You need to be horsewhipped tbqh

>>115249176
White immigrants in white countries are rare, because Jews know -- it will bring them opposition. Immigration is a natural organizer, if whites organize Jews will stand no chance.

>>115249656
She didn't campaign against it at all. She adjusted her speeches to match Trump and Bernie when the Ada computer program her staff was using determined people don't fucking want the Jew World Order. You are fantastically ignorant.

>>115249626
>>115249394
Get a room faggots, you're both wrong is "Nouveau riche".

>>115249626
Touché

>>115249444

Kill your self false flagging Marxist shill

>>115240941
then leave. you're free to do so. so so many will happily take your place.

>>115241642
Have you seen the east side lately? I grew up in Redmond and I don't even fucking recognize it anymore it looks like Bellevue and Mubai were fused by a planar alignment

>>115249842
Don't speak to him like that you fucking piece of shit.

>>115249265
>Not really charity. It's control of the flow of money in order to achieve his personal interests while looking good as a PR stunt.

Nigger you just said his charities weren't actually charity now you're adding this rider of "oh yeah he did but really it was xyz"

Please pay attention to your own fucking words

>>115249394
Thanks my mind got BEANED