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Can some leaf give me a quick rundown and redpill me in montreal?

Also, what's the gist about Quebec politically??
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>>115210897
Montreal is probably the most culturally interesting city in Canada.

It is 50% French and 50% Anglo. Sort of like a hybrid of a European and north American city.

Why are you coming here? To be a care attendant or a nurse, or to work at Tim Hortons?
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>>115214278
I was just curious knowing how the french and the anglos live there.

Do they all speak english/french?
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>>115214454
Mostly yes.
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>>115214513
How do people who do not know french live there? Must be hard
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>>115214454

I went there in 2013. I found most people I passed on the street or spoke to at stores/restaurants/etc. were bilingual. This was downtown. In certain neighbourhoods outside of downtown, they're strictly French speaking. And as a matter of fact I went to a Subway in Outrement and was treated very rudely for placing my order in English.

It probably would've been worse if he knew I was from Alberta.
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>>115214765
>In certain neighbourhoods outside of downtown, they're strictly French speaking. And as a matter of fact I went to a Subway in Outrement and was treated very rudely for placing my order in English.
To they despise the anglos or they just think it's a bit disrespectful to not know their culture?

>It probably would've been worse if he knew I was from Alberta.

Why though
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all the young people are bilingual even if they have absolute terrible accents

some older folks still speak only french or english

some neighborhoods are still almost entirely white
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i live in montreal, im going to do a quick rundown
pros
>nice building for north american standard
>most people in the city are billingual
>most muzzie behave and dont make a lot of problem
cons
>lefty
>one ghetto filled by haitian (they arent really dangerous though)
>shit tier roads because of weather

politic is wird here, even though quebecer are nationalist in some ways they act like a bunch of cuck and dont mind being flooded by migrants
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>>115214992
>Why though
Quebecois are cuckolds
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>>115214675
you can live in MTL without speaking french
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>>115215457
Isn't that montreal has the most muslim population in the whole canada?

>>115215531
>nice building for north american standard
How fucked are property prices?
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>>115215623
What's the beef between Quebec and the rest of canada?

>>115215629
>you can live in MTL without speaking french
Wouldn't it be a bit harder?
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>>115215685
not that much if you compare to other canadian cities
>>115215623
this
>>115215629
yes but you are probably going to start understanding it after many years
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>>115215812
quebecer thinks the rest of canada is holding them back while its the other way around
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>>115216014
Secessionist? Why is it the other way around though
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The western suburbs on the island of Montreal are almost entirely English speaking, while the rest of the island is mostly bilingual and the off island suburbs are predominantly french.
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Montreal resident here;

Pros:
Great food if you know where to go i.e. gastronomically excellent food comparable to what can be found in Europe $$$.

Good music I guess if you give a shit.

Cons:
Literally everything else. Cosmopolitan shithole - multikulti - shit roads. Shit weather most of the year. Corrupt - lots of wasted money going to organized crime. Absolutelt must be able to speak French to live here otherwise dont bother.

If youre a chad like me and wanted to be a degenerate and fuck random girls and get fucked up its great. High quality sluts for sure.

But I aint about that life anymore.

You can find good quality traditional European girls here too which is nice. Ones who are actually virgins or low partner counts who are also racist enough to not burn coal or shawarma.
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>>115216164
because quebec is the province with the biggest debt in the cunt, we also have the most corrupted provincial governement in the cunt and the only thing keeping us away from becoming a greece tier place is the rest of canada. plus most native quebecer tend to be ignorant beyond resonning and deny any kind of critic toward them
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Most Muslims are from french Algeria and Morocco
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>>115214992

>they despise anglos or...

I think it's that they've had to cling to every bit of culture they can and have managed to keep certain neighbourhoods (and most of Quebec outside of Montreal) traditionally French. The fact that I, an obvious anglo tourist, walked into their regular neighbourhood with no tourist attractions, just where they live day to day, and asked for a sandwich, is a little more than a nuisance. Language is everything to these people.

>why though

If Quebec is California, Alberta is like Texas or Alabama. We're political opposites. And we give them billions of dollars in equalization payments.

If you put it in that specific context, I was the anglo benefactor asking for my french beneficiary to make me a sandwich.
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>>115210897
it's fun to live in when you're in your 20s, especially as a student
>nightlife
>cool architecture
>no need for car (city built around metro)
>cheap rent
>cheap hydro (5.8c/kWh)
>cheap car insurance (25 bucks a month)
>lots of restaurants
>girls are hot
>girls are complete sluts, will fuck within 1st hour of date
>poutine

now the /montrealredpill/
>shit economy
>no jobs
>fastest eviction process in the world (involving a "court)- don't pay your rent, evicted within 30-45 days
>if you're not a native french speaker you will never get a job, not even min wage
>everyone is poor
>mental illness is huge
>homelesness everywhere
>literally like 25% of people are on welfare
>every woman is an uber SJW cultural marxist
>everyone over 35 is either married and slaving or committed suicide
>for some reason Quebec holds record for mass shootings
>if you own a car you will go broke adjusting your alignment due to the potholes
>if you own a car you will go broke due to parking tickets
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Russian in Mtl here, living in the city for 20 years

>dirty
>filled with leftist students, feminists, anti racists
>lots of immigrant ghetto, haitian hood, arab hood, filipino hood
>too many ugly condos
>lots of junkies and prostiutes in some areas, parks filled with needles
>too many anglo only people who shit on the province's culture
>shit roads, always some roadwork going, lots of traffic
>paying 50% income tax before deductions
>job market saturated in my field
>people are cunts
>police are bigger cunts
>lots of homeless
>there's a gay village downtown
>weather is retarded

Good things:
>many qts of all sorts, most girls are easy
>not as expensive as Toronto and Vancouver
>rather good public transit
>lots of (((free))) unis
>good food
>fun events around town
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>>115217142
I was living there last winter, and the place is full of welfare parasites and SJW socialists. Other then that it's a beatific city with a great night life. Festivals all the time.

We need to glass Tam tams however
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>>115215685
Montreal has lots of muslims mostly concentrated in the north central part of the island and even the north east part of the english speaking west island. The black population is huge in the poorer east end but most of them aren't violent or dangerous as they would be in a similar sized American city. Although the Montreal north and st Michel boroughs in the east end have the most blacks and the highest crime rates in the city.
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>>115217142
i knew we had chinatown but a filipino hood? never heard of it. same goes for the arab one, they arent focused around one place from what i saw(we do have lots of them though)
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>>115216754
> Takes billions of dollars from Albert annually

>Constantly acts like a dick to Alberta.

> Have the lowest tuition in the country due to federal subsidies. Liberal students cry and protest about tuition

Welcome to Quebec
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>>115215531
I met a muzzie who grew up in Montreal and he hated black people, he talked about how at least the neighborhood we were in was only occupied by illegal immigrants and not blacks so there wasn't much crime. Must've missed the quiet revolution
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>>115216803

You get it. 20 years ago, people thought it was hate against anglos but in reality, they saw into the future and wanted to protect their culture from what was coming. Today, you have to respect them for protecting their culture agasint the Muslim invasion that has all but taken Toronto.
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>>115216574
this
The 3 girlfriends I've had had less than 5 partners and were racist as fuck. People like to shit on Quebecers but they don't realize that we're probably the white people with the strongest sense of identity.
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>>115217142
mtl police are good if you're white and dressed nicely

if you are non-white, an SJW liberal hippie or homeless person they will either beat you for no reason or shoot you
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>>115216952
Lots of poor but also lots of wealthy and very wealthy.
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>>115217888
They should to the latter more often desu.
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>>115217430
Tams are shit and degenerate, but yes other festivals are pretty great. Osheaga attracts too many american party normies though.

>>115217537
Cote des neiges is filled with flips, but they're not too bad compared to the jews and arabs.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petit_Maghreb
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>>115218034
the (((wealthy))) live in Outrement, Hampstead or ((((((((((((Summit Circle))))))))))) [literally 90% jewish]
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Montréal is a Muslim city. Seriously it's completely overrun. I work downtown our entire client is Mohammed. Depressing. The québécois don't reproduce anymore. The place will first in Canada to institute sharia law.
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>>115216952
>fastest eviction process in the world (involving a "court)- don't pay your rent, evicted within 30-45 days

You say that like a bad thing, squatters and deadbeats OUT OUT OUT

Anyway I'll pop over for a night, Matthew Good's playing in a couple of weeks and I haven't been in years

t. Gatineau
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>>115218218
what are you talking about, do you work by Concordia? That shithole is Muslim infested

But montreal is very white outside of certain neighbourhoods

I live in an area where I can go weeks without seeing a single Mohammedean. The only non-whites are gooks who keep to themselves and are polite
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>>115218433
It seems to me like Concordia is mostly asian infested. Most restaurants around there are asian, with a few kebab shops.
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>>115217764

And I do. But that's a two-way street. If you want to have an autonomous province/culture, you can't be relying on the subsidies of your cultural enemies.

Perhaps it's a sad indicator that good, traditional cultures are no longer sustainable and they will only survive as a novelty.
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>>115210897
Rent is about half or 2/3 the price of other major Canadian cities where there are jobs.

Small companies (under 50 employees) don't have to have French in internal correspondence like emails and other paperwork.

Daycare is dirt cheap, like $7 a day.

The Asian takeover hasn't reached it and probably won't for the foreseeable future since they have no grasp of French and no ambition to ever learn it. However the Quebec government takes their money in exchange for allowing them a backdoor into the country at which point they immediately move to Vancouver or Toronto.

If you want an urban lifestyle it's by far the best major city in the country to raise a family. The subway system is convenient too. Also Quebec residents get cheap university tuition and McGill is an excellent school. Overall it's the last stand of the original Canada as far as places with actual jobs go.
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>>115218433

Yes. Guy Concordia. That's true I live Plateau much nicer than downtown
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>>115218269
Yeah but tonnes of slumlords and Montreal takes slumlording to a new level

I once rented an apt and it turned out to be infested with mice and the landlords literally didn't do anything. I'd find dead mice in my shoes, under my bed, in my cabinets, etc. The apartment wasn't fucking habitable
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>>115217884

Remember that time they wanted to pass some charter that critics called "anti-Islam"? What was in that?
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Montreal is one of the four Great Shitholes of Canada. The other three shitholes are Toronto, Edmonton, and Vancouver.

Rest of Quebec is pretty based though, pic related.
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Another shitpoint: bars/clubs have to close by 3 am.

I'm not into this anymore so don't really care, but back in the student days it was annoying.
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>>115218824

I get why Edmonton's a shithole because I live here, but why the others?
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>>115218824
This photo is so mesmerizing
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>>115218584
>Rent is about half or 2/3 the price of other major Canadian cities where there are jobs.

There are no jobs. $50K (CDN, 35K USD) is considered a god-tier wage here

>Small companies (under 50 employees) don't have to have French in internal correspondence like emails and other paperwork.

Those are coding slave shops that pay fuck all-- 60K (45K USD) for a senior coder lmfao.

>Daycare is dirt cheap, like $7 a day.
Multi-year waiting list and its adjusted based on income, if you work you pay closer to $30 a day

Everything else is correct
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>>115218985
>why is Toronto a shithole?
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>>115218646
lol called it. That place is Saudi Arabia

I live in the plateau too, 1250 for a 1000 sq ft soundproof condo with AC, by an SAQ, cab stand, 3 mins walk to metro, beside 24h couche tarte, grocery store 1 block, restos everywhere

>but no fucking jobs esp finance, my field

so i have to move to multikulti hell hole NYC or London soon
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>>115218985
>why is Vancouver a shithole?
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>>115218985
What? Edmonton's a shithole too?
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>>115218987
Quebec is the superior city in every single way. I grew up in montreal but lived 6 years in Quebec city.
Montreal is a dirty globalist mess that has stagnated in the last 30 years, mostly because of corruption and lack of vision.
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>>115218646
>>115219341
I'm probably moving to plateau in July, redpill me about life in that hood. Only know about the hipsters.
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>>115219389
see pic
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>>115219341
Bummer. I do love Montreal I should prolly just find a different job. Can't imagine living in a unilingual city ever again
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>>115219504
Too expensive for hipsters now. It's nice, mostly Frenchies from France. But you're at the centre of it all. Close to the best food and amenities
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>>115219389

Not really. Just cold, dreary, slow-moving. We have bad roads, always under construction, high housing costs (just bought a $240 000 condo), and only a couple neighbourhoods that have good nightlife.

There's lots of work, close access to lakes and the mountains, and a major airport, but it's pretty plain-Jane in most respects.

>>115219116

Okay lots of blacks, Edmonton doesn't really have that much of a problem.

>>>115219383

Okay, lots of asians. Edmonton doesn't have that big a problem, but it's noticeable.
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>>115219628

For the record, they removed the "City of Champions" slogan after the Oilers missed the playoffs for eight straight years. The year after, the Eskimos won the grey cup, but whatever.
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>>115219908
A lot of Parisians moved to Plateau because it's the most European-like city in North America, and an apartment that costs 1k a month would cost 5000 euros in Paris

Although the French bitch about the taxes, they say they are higher than in France lmfao
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>>115219961
Toronto is essentially a city-sized concrete toilet and the epicenter of the marxist cancer eating at the fabric of Canadian society
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>>115219961
>There's lots of work
What the fuck are you smoking? Where? mcdonalds paying $11/hr?
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>>115210897
Just wait a few years everything will get better.
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>>115220289

Railroad bro. CN and CP. $65k starting. Just shitty hours.
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>>115220289
$20 is considered a high wage here and $30/hr is considered god-like, anything above that is a myth

Also 50%+ taxes
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>>115210897
lived there for 5 years

pretty cool

degenerate in a lot of ways though (high quality drugs are everywhere, many of my friends OD'd on fentanyl etc)

drinking culture

everyones a pothead

a lot of nigs, morrocans, algerians, and the largest community of Jews in North America outside of New York City
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>>115219908
Fucking frenchies. Oh well at least there are no niggers.
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>>115220181

Actually, now that I think about it, it kind of gives that impression. It's all corporate. All immigrant. The only thing I desire to see there is the Hockey Hall of Fame at Leaf gardens.
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>>115218985
Some people can't handle Toronto's energy. It's constantly in flux with tons of people and construction.

Half the population was born outside the country and it's super easy to have a terrible time if you don't make enough money to socioeconomically segregate yourself in a decent building.

It's the centre of a vast conurbation so a lot of people waste their lives commuting 2 hours a day from the exurbs.

It has minimal access to decent parks or nature.

The city is filled with people who are there for money or opportunity but are waiting until they become successful enough to move to where they really want to be, like back to their home countries or somewhere with better weather and even more big city opportunity like NYC or London.

You need money to have a good time here. However despite all that it's far from a shithole. Toronto is like entering a Star Trek colony if you're from a run down or small city. It's bustling, lively, and has a lot to offer. It just isn't for everyone.
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>>115220486

Are you talking about Edmonton or Montreal?
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>>115220525
t. middle name Beniamin and live in Mtl, and worked for a Jewish investment bank in NYC
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>>115220530
I've got no beef with the Frenchies. It's more the employment situation no one makes money other than the slumlords
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>>115220486
This is the problem 100%
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>>115220728
kek

I lived in NDG, right near Hampstead so Hasidics everywhere

once saw an elderly Hasidic man walking around outside of an elementary school with his dick hanging out his robes
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>>115220666

If you need to be borderline rich to enjoy the city, I consider that a bad thing. And what are the benefits of eating and drinking "downtown Toronto" over eating at a decent restaurant anywhere?

You're getting delicious food and intoxicating drink. What does it matter where you're sitting?
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>>115220666
>Some people can't handle Toronto's energy
my fucking sides

wait
>666
what did kek mean by this???????? toronto is a shithole?????
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>>115218209
You forgot the west island. Dollard very Jewish but Beaconsfield and Kirkland are all rich white people. And Hudson further west is heaven on earth literally 100% white English and wealthy.
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>>115220890

When I was walking through Outrement I saw hasidics all over the place. Something about those stand-alone curls was seriously disturbing.
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>>115217543
> Have the lowest tuition in the country due to federal subsidies

Wrong. Education is a PROVINCIAL responsibility. It is paid with the highest taxes on the continent. Quebeckers would gain more FEDERAL money if they were to hike the tuition, as the federal government give taxe breaks for tuiton payment.

> Liberal students cry and protest about tuition

Wrong again. The liberal party is the one who want to hike the tuition. Everyone who protested the hike hate the liberal party.

Typical anglo who talks shit about Quebec but doesn't know shit
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>>115220890
>once saw an elderly Hasidic man walking around outside of an elementary school with his dick hanging out his robes
pics or it didn't happen

Have you ever driven around (((Summit Circle))) atop the mountain? There's some house that's built like a Nuclear bunker with gargoyle statues everywhere, and it had a Bentley, Lambhorgini, and like 7 other sports cars parked along the road
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It is a leftist and frog rathole that needs to be glassed. The worst rabble live there. French people are scum, the niggers of the white race. Don't come (for your mental health).
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>Quebec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klm5YwCwK60

Also support for independence is growing. A new party that formed, Anglos for Quebec independence, and another one that wants the US to annex it
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>>115221076
>Wrong. Education is a PROVINCIAL responsibility. It is paid with the highest taxes on the continent. Quebeckers would gain more FEDERAL money if they were to hike the tuition, as the federal government give taxe breaks for tuiton payment.

because they really aren't getting enough already
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>>115221182
One of the biggest houses in Westmount is owned by a Qatari who's barely ever in town.
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>>115221852
It's called buying loyalty. Millions of Quebeckers are dissatisfied with Canada, hence equalization payments. Please do cut it so the less enlighten citizens can finally see the light and get out of this abomination of a country
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>>115220891
I painted a dark picture but it's not that bad.

Toronto makes it easy to customize your life in almost limitless ways. It's a centre of leftism because every culture and subculture is present here.

Also while the city as a whole is expensive almost anyone can make it work and live in their preferred neighbourhood as long as they work full time and not for minimum wage.

The city is also very young, like packed with people in the 20-40 age bracket. Tons of ambitious people come here.

Overall it's actually quite underrated. The people are better looking and friendlier than their reputations would reflect. People here don't start conversations by asking how much money you make like they do in Vancouver. And they're generally interested in making connections and aren't closed off.
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>>115219628
Edmonton is such a shit hole.
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>>115222656

Most of my impressions of Toronto come from Kids in the Hall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j1nHdURKgE
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>>115221833
>A new party for independence
god fucking damnit
not again?
We need ONE united party for independence, NOT 5.
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>>115223144

It would be a shame if you had to...stay Canadian.
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>>115214278
It's way more than 50% French though. It's more like 95% French and 5% English.

Montreal is like France, very liberal. Girls are hot though, although they are becoming more and more feministic.
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>>115210897

Quick rundown you say?
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>>115222813
Edmonton is the white trash Canadian blue collar major city. Too many drug addicts and alcoholics.
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>>115223144
I fucking hate Quebec Solidaire for that reason.
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>>115224068
What Wikijew says: 56.9% of Montrealers speak French at home, 18.6% speak English and 19.8% speak other languages.
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Are there any jobs for an aglo, most of them require that you speak french as well (shit tier min wage jobs)
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Montreal, its a fuck up of a city that has noble origin but as of late went really down the shitter, corruption is rampant to the point that you simply can't get any important and lucrative construction contract in the city if you don't pay the mafia a given percentage, its culturally dying and alienating itself from the rest of the provinces as it become gradually more and more ''diverse'' as to please its divided populace, going as far as getting a metropolis status as to become a sanctuary city with little approval of the rest of Quebec, nearly all the medias have become [voluntarily?] misinformed click-bait tier trash possessed by you know who, all the politicians act like everything fine under the sun while mafias and black street gang (mostly illegal hatians nobodies that copy american gettho culture because they are that braindead, calling Quebeker racist pos asking for payback even if we never even owned slaves, the legal African who worked to get here are generally a great bunch, well the one that aint Muslims) have been at war for years now, with pizza parlors (see: Mafia/gang money laundering) going down in flames by molotov 2-3 times every single month, the price of gas is inflated the fuck up within the city, etc.

It really has become an utter and complete shithole, its a sad sight. And now that it has become a sanctuary city we peoples living in the metropolitan area will pay the price, shit suck.
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If you are from Toronto and you can't speak French, you will have a bad time in Montreal. There are literally groups of thugs that walk around asking questions in French and if someone replies in English they get their teeth knocked out. If you say your from Toronto you may even get stabbed.

>Be Canadian
>Learn French you lazy fucks
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I dont understand why kekbec doesnt just leave canacuck. They speak french there ffs
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>>115225404
Ya sure. I've lived here my whole life speaking English and that never happened.
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>>115210897

Learn some french or at least try to speak it. we will gladly help you with directions or whatever, just the fact to try and bland in the culture will give you a 90% boost. dont forget that quebec is the main culture of canada, no matter what the others are saying, the rest of canada beside the maritime has no cultures beside being anglos, tim horton eating idiots, and frustrated sandniggers , jews and chinks who are butthurt because they think canada is english. After montreal try to hit quebec city .
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>>115225895

Google up ''adscam'', and that it was all started coincidentally the same year (well they had proof of activities going as far as 1996 but we'll be honest, it surely started earlier than that, you can't just make such a thing appear on a moment notice, it take a lot of planning) of Quebec referendum that ended on a bullshit vote of 50.58 no for 49.42 yes... the entire thing was surrounded with fraud and legal debacle that ended nowhere, with the federal government going as far as making one of the main actor in this whole clusterfuck, Michel Bastarache the supreme judge of Canada... Also everytime there is a new reveal the medias pretend to care but they speak very little of it and throw it under the rug asap, if you ever dare ask for more they'll just tell you they talked of it already. Shit like this:

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2013/07/10/le-oui-finance-illegalement

Tl;dr: Is not that we don't want to, its because the federal government is a Tsundere bitch that claim to hate us but try everything to stop us from leaving because its aware if it loose 1/3 of the entire country population at once and the access to the Saint-Lawrence, which is invaluable in term of trade since its the main waterway to the Atlantic for many northern american state and ontario.
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>>115216952
>>cheap rent

beside verdun , hochelaga or mtl nord, you won't find anything lower than 800$ / month
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>>115227754

*it will get utterly shafted as a country and will be literally divided in half and get itself stuck with an overloaded system it barely manage to pay up as it is of now. Basically to let us leave would be suicide.
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>>115225895
We won it on paper last referendum, but lost by 1% because the liberals and the rest of canada were shitting in their diapers and found a way to win. They all know if quebec leaves canada, they are going to be a third world country since quebec is the real canada.
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>>115227760

My family owns an 8 unit building.
5 1/2s. We charge $850 heated.

Not a fucking roach motel either. Not fancy or modern or newly renovated but clean warm and safe somewhat quiet family building.


Of course all our tenants are Lebs now...
Anyway I wish my family would tenovate everything and charge more rent but wtv.
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>>115218269
also from gatineau. living in sherbrooke for school currently though
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>>115210897
Liberals, Arabs, cucks.
Good food and drinks. Joe beef is dank
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>>115218824

I come from Quebec City but now live in Montreal for work. God I miss this place.
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>>115215531
Montreal is disconnected from the rest of quebec ..

it has been stolen by mass immigration and it's a fact .... there's some place in MTL you can't talk en english and some you can't talk en french

more than 90% of the immigrants entering goes to montreal ....

the quebecer is not the assimilated society you see in mtl
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>>115231075

Montreal's always been disconnected from the rest of Quebec. The difference is that now it's so populated that the Media & Cultural center that it now is dictates what's (((right))). Social Media is reversing that trend slowly, but we have some pretty deep-seated semitic elements that have always been there. Thanks, Eternal Anglo.
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>>115218718

Jesus, are you that fucking brain dead you haven't realized that what a politician say isn't an actual representative of what the peoples think? Its all theatre, behind the scene its the same machine working as always
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>>115218584
>McGill is an excellent school.

kys
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>>115218718
It was a law to force government to appear secular during their working hours, that means no kipa or big crucifix and also no hijab so obviously the law is only targeting Muslims and everyone ignored that the law would apply to anyone wearing religious symbols.
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>>115220486
this is quebec in a nutshell
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>>115225404
nice larping faggot

the only chance you have to be stabbed in mtl are the haitian gang and illegal immigrant
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>>115210897

Downtown Montreal fag here.

>most students per capita in North America
>pretty liberal on account of the students, but not as bad as you'd imagine
>lots of nightlife, which is annoying a/f if you're not a degenerate clubber
>very, very cheap real estate (even downtown, I pay >$1,000/month for a decent place)
>francophone/anglophone mix is interesting, however English is really beginning to dominate, I've lost most of my french over the past 5 years because I never need to use it
>honestly a pretty cool lace all-in-all; lots of (((jews))) but at least there aren't as many shitskins as Toronto
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>>115215812
>Wouldn't it be a bit harder?

Maybe a little bit, but English is becoming so widespread that I've lost most of my french over 5 years since I never need to use it anymore.

Unless you're in the east-end of the city, English is all you'll ever need.
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>>115216014
Couldn't be more true, Quebec has a Brazil-tier corrupt government and only survives on their annual welfare payments from the federal government.
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>>115218209
Aside from omitting the west island, you're forgetting about Westmount and TMR
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>>115235262

>very, very cheap real estate (even downtown, I pay >$1,000/month for a decent place)
>1000$
>Cheap

Jesus fucking christ, you can get yourself a nicely sized house for half that per month in the metropolitan area, even cheaper if you go further north into the small villages and cities that are starving for new citizen.
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>>115235791
In a way though without that dependence on welfare we could move forward to a more libertarian and free government. Welfare does hold us back and it's also a bribe to older people so they'll keep their pension in exchange for voting for whatever Federalist party.
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>>115235976

I live right downtown though, near McGill campus, this location in TO would be well over $3,000/month.

I used to live ~20 minutes farther from campus and I paid $500/month.
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>>115210897
Montreal is a cesspool of homeless, faggots, and hipsters. Quebec is a liberal province full of faggots who want to separate from canada while still receiving all the benefits of being a Canadian province. They take the most money in comparison to how much they give back, and they think they are better than everyone else even tho most of them are uneducated dumbfucks with at least 12% Native American blood. Quebec is literally the worst province.
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>>115236076
Oh I'm confident Quebec could be prosperous on it's own, I mean 96% of our power is from hydro-electric so it's some of the cheapest in the world, but we would need a substantial government overhaul before we could aspire for a free economy.

The welfare has caused he government corruption, and the corruption is why we can't separate (I'm not a separatist either way).
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>>115221076
That was a great read thanks
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>>115228430

Just hold another referendum then?
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Isnt quebec white too?
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>>115236519
>They take the most money in comparison to how much they give back

What's the official separatist rebuttal to this? Reminds me of when the SNP could never even say what currency they would use as an independent Scotland, bunch of retards honestly
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