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A lot of us often paint homosexuality in a bad light and see it as self evident, but I think that to properly argument against degeneracy you need to articulate the stuff you believe in in a convincing way. So here goes.
When people throw the word homophobes around its usually implied that it's baseless and has no real meaning and that anyone who rejects it is an uneducated bigot, but they never go into why people would reject it.
Essentially what it is is the rejection of men becoming like women (because nobody really gives a shit about lesbians in thst same way, they're a different case all together). Why is that a bad thing? Because hyper competitive masculine gender roles are tied into the ideas of self reliance and self confidence and more importantly, responsibility over yourself and your family. Like, that's the traditional role of a man, to be someone who suffers when it's the right thing to do for those around you.
Homosexuality is very psychological in that a lot of it has to do with either the abscondence of self control and personal responsability, which is why a lot of people in high stress high positions end up using sexual taboo and homosexuality as a release, or the predation of the weak out of selfish sadism. When you become a bottom you essentially give yourself up to someone else for, however temporary, a relief from personal responsability.
Now, that's honestly fine and dandy as a taboo thing you keep under wraps, maybe not as someone in a married lifestyle who has a wife to take care of that... but as something you make your lifestyle out of, its kind of just aggrandizing a personal weakness of character. It's also why a lot of gay culture is infantilist and in the worst cases pedophilic and rapey. Infantilism is the psychological escape of the weak in the same way that irony is the psychological escape of the cynical.
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So the issue then becomes not one of religious dogma, but rather, that homosexuality proves to breed several bad character traits in people. Mainly, either it breeds the contentness of being weak willed and subservient to others as a lifestyle, or it breeds predatory tendencies, or worse, both. That's often seen in victims of rape who become rapists themselves, such as the sad story of bachi boys or male Indian prostitutes.
Now, the thing is, with that established, does that make homosexuals themselves bad people? Does the legislature to barrel people from being influenced into being weak willed have a place in society? If we are free, should we allow people to be willingly weak? These are questions worth asking.
It also cannot be understated that overexposure to pornography does psychologically warp people. One can be exposed to countless hours of content depicting homosexuality in an impossibly idealist light that, for example, never once brings up the scatological aspect of it, and thus impressionable young men become more open to the idea of fucking men women and realizing too late that they're being influenced into accepting a willing weakness.
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You just pulled a whole bunch of false ideas out of your ass and wrote a story around them as if they were true.
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Subsequently, even if one acknowledges that homosexuality is a not so great lifestyle, surely you would simply live and let live in a free society? And hopefully be able to teach your children about why they shouldn't partake in that weak willed hedonism.
But of course, people are formed as much from the world around them as their parents, and it goes without saying that despite the narrative of homosexuals being oppressed, they're very heavily normalized in media. It's mostly lesbians, but due to the blurring of lines between men and women in homosexuality and the very intentional merger of the two groups, it creates an impression that homosexualism is cleaner and prettier than it is. Ironically using heterosexualism to advertise homosexualism.
Therefore the standard to live and let live becomes problematic, for lack of a better word, as a standard that is seen as actively negative becomes more normalized. Their standard becomes one that they believe they are normal arena one day could be the standard.
So the issue with degeneracy is that rather than being a problem of morality, it becomes one of normalcy. The answer to evading is that rather than attempting to rationalize the good or bad of it, to simply establish a standard.
Homosexuality is bizarre, even amongst minorities. It is in the best interest of homosexuals to remain on the outskirts of social dogma so as to pursue themselves without harming others, and thus incurring hate upon them, and it's in our best interest for self evident reasons.
In this scenario, live and let live becomes possible.
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>>115071270
Nah.
I say it as someone who was bicurious, got into the destructive community, thought about it for half a minute, and snapped the fuck out of it.
Homosexuality is absolutely a consequence of exposure and is completely something you can control and erase, just stop watching porn for a few months and, oh, what a shock, you no longer have a cloud of sexual overdose putting you in a bad mindset of an addict.
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>Homosexuality is very psychological in that a lot of it has to do with either the abscondence of self control and personal responsability, which is why a lot of people in high stress high positions end up using sexual taboo and homosexuality as a release, or the predation of the weak out of selfish sadism. When you become a bottom you essentially give yourself up to someone else for, however temporary, a relief from personal responsability.
The thing is, it's exactly the same for women. How can you condemn a homosexual man for being weak without condemning heterosexual women for the same reason? I think that homosexuality shouldn't be normalized to the extent that it has been, but there's a small portion of men (less than 1%) that are totally incompatible with the normative way of living as a heterosexual man, they are innately too much like a woman and shouldn't be ostracized for it.
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>>115072727
Women are not expected to guard the perimeter, and shouldn't. They should give birth and take care of the children. Feminine men neither can guard the perimeter nor can give birth. They are thusly useless.
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>>115072727
Because men and women have different standards.
A woman has no need to be strong or self reliant and in a lot of recent cases it's come up that women who fell for the feminism meme are vocally stating how miserable it's made them by denying them of what, innately, women most naturally want: someone who IS self reliant who will either completely or partially absolve them of personal responsability, most importantly in a financial sense. It isn't that women don't or shouldn't have the same drive as a man, it's that the standards are different for a variety of psychological reasons.
Strong women and stronger men are the ideal, but a lot of them are content being mutually weak and stronger together, or a usually, almost universally, dominant man and weak woman. The key is that these are more or less natural, non parasitic relationships where in a good scenario a weak woman isn't being made less of because she's a weak woman with a strong man and the strong man isn't predating on someone with emotional issues.
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>respect me to read an dissertation on that OP likes to suck cock and why we shouldn't condemn it
Men are made for women and vice versa to reproduce so that mankind can thrive. Pounding another man's hairy anus is against the biological law, serving no purpose but itself and thus degenerate. Period.
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>>115073827
If a man has a hormonal problem that made him too feminine to compete with men, isn't it ok to low the standards for him?
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OP trying to justify his gayness ?
Libtard kike trying to narmalise gayness ?
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