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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.
Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
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>>115059079
1st for fuck OFF commie scum
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>>115059079
Automation is the future comrade!
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GET OFF MY FUCKING BOARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>115060846
That's June you fucking imbecile.
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>>115061282
literally who?
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>>115060591
Indeed.
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>>115061409
Some tranny with an autistic manchild boyfriend that's part of the "youtube skeptic community"
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Again this commie spaniard?
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>>115061991
Hi comrade nice to see you again
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>>115061825
Also, you do realize posting Anime girls with commie symbols won't bluepill us to turn into commies, right?
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What are capitalists going to do when their wasteful system collapses and they run out of resources? Will they start killing each other?
When machines take their jobs are they gonna finally accept that communism is superior?
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>>115062259
We wont run out of resources because we'll be colonizing other planets while you commies will be squatting in abandoned buildings, bitching about capitalists.
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>>115062472
>colonize other planets
>Still need soviet spacecrafts to get into low orbit
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>>115059079
>THERE IS NO NEED FOR COMMUNISING ALL THE FACTORIES AND THE FIELDS, AND THE FORRESTS AND THE MINES UNDER A NEW KIND OF GOD MADE OF FLESH AND BLOOD AND CLAY AND HATERED!
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>>115062603
Are you saying the USSR is an example of communism? You can't even keep your shit story straight.
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>>115062788
Forgot link
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uFDuGNCxyl0
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>>115062472
Yeah sure. China already owns your stupid country.
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>>115062806
How so? Communism hasn't existed yet
(1) Soviet society was indeed socialist.
(2) This society had many undesirable and problematic features.
(3) The problems of Soviet society were in part related to the extremely difficult historical circumstances in which the Bolsheviks set about trying to build socialism, but that is not all: important policy mistakes were made (just as possible in a socialist society as in capitalism), and furthermore the problems of Soviet socialism in part reflect serious weaknesses in classical Marxism itself.
(4) The failure of the Soviet system is therefore by no means irrelevant to Marxian socialism. We must reflect carefully on the lessons to be learned from this failure.
(5) Nonetheless, unlike those who delight in proclaiming the complete historic rout of Marxism, we believe that a different type of socialism—still recognizably Marxian, yet substantially reformulated—is possible. The Soviet Union was socialist, but other forms of Marxian socialism are possible.
(6) This claim can be sustained only by spelling out in much more detail than hitherto both the sorts of economic mechanisms and the forms of political constitution which socialists consider both desirable and feasible.
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>>115059079
Hi you throbbing Thunderfags, I'm back!
I have a puzzle for you too!
1) Theft is immoral
2) Thus gibmedat-ideologies like socialism are immoral
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>>115063425
You know why communism is impossible, and by definition doesn't work?
Human nature.
I've told you this several times, but each time I tell you the truth, you never reply.
Because you cannot argue with reality.
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>>115064041
you mean "nature of individual organisms"
self-ownership and ownership over your actions in reality are natural properties of individuals, not "rights"
Socialism/gommunism/whatthefuckever-ism requires theft, thus it goes against the nature of biological individual entities
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well fuck me, I whow up and all the commies run away. How boring. I wanted to have a funny discussion with you guyyyyyyysss
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>>115064515
God bless you for being right
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>>115064976
God bless you too good Sir.
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>>115065924
porky gives you funds to initiate a revolution under anonymity, what do?
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>>115066179
He is giving me the rope to hang him?
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>>115066897
i don't know, will you accept it?
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>>115060677
lmao
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>>115066897
yes we already know that communists are thugs and murderers. But can you provide an argument why commuism is not inherently immoral? I already gave a hint goddamn
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>>115067083
commies don't believe in morality because they don't believe in God
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>>115067213
Well, morality doesn't require a god. When a commie says that morality does not exist, then I will ask him if it is OK to murde him. If he answers yes, he contradicts himself because you can't accept your own murder since that defies the definition of murder (the only excuse is to say that murder doesn't exist which is hilarious). If he says no, then morality clearly exists, and the exact definition is merely a matter of working out the details.
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If a commies says "moral theories are bullshit", he contradicts himself since communism is a moral theory (as in, a sub-set of ethics that is about enforceable behavior). Moral theories evdiently exist, and therefore they have to be 1) objective ("universal") and 2) consistent. Any theory that is not consistent nor universal is invalid, because reality itself is objective and consistent and theory that is designed to describe reality, has to have those 2 critical properties.
Communism / fuckit-ism is a theory that is inconsistent as it clearly says "murder / theft is sometimes moral", so communism / fuckit-ism cannot be a valid theory. Ever. Into the trash it goes.
Commies know that, and they know very well that they have no arguments, so they resort to violence. Which we have ample evidence for.
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Isn't it funny how the working class are never Marxists? It's almost as if the working class don't give a fuck about Marxist bullshit and just want low taxes and decent jobs
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