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John Lennon - Imagine

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From an ideological perspective, what are your thoughts on this song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLgYAHHkPFs
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That this belongs on >>>/mu/
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The Beatles Jew.

I had a Beatles period. Wish I hadn't.
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>>102640576
http://www.rooshv.com/john-lennons-imagine-programmed-you-to-accept-the-globalism-nightmare
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>>102640576
Gaaaayyyy
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>>102640576
keep imagining losers, this shit aint gonna happen in your lifetime or ever
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>>102640713
>From an ideological perspective
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It's a pipe dream
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Stop listening to leftist drivel
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I remember watching some documentary called "Communism by the backdoor"
They had a whole elaborate conspiracy about this song, pretty funny.
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Fuck John Lennon and fuck people from Liverpool.
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>>102640983
>>>/mu/
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Here's the thing, that song is about a dystopian 1984 nightmare.

t. Mike "The Kike" Enoch
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>>102640576
Pure Marxism.
But peaceful world were all people are nice to each other sounds nice. But it won't happen because such a world can only exist in the mind of a Marxist.
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>>102640576
John Lennon was a great songwriter, and I love music enough to ignore shitty leftist/degenerate lyrics if the music is good. But 'Imagine' is complete garbage.
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>>102640576
I haved mixed feelings. A world without borders is impossible and would never work out, but a world with no religion sounds pretty good senpai.
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>>102640576
absolute utopian non-realitarian garbage
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>>102640576

A world with no country, no possessions, nothing worth fighting for and nothing to worship is the absolutely worst kind of world I can imagine. It's a dead, sterile world. Peaceful, but this peace would be worthless.

Fuck Lennon and fuck this garbage song.

You may say I'm a fossil, a leftover of the past.
But I'm not the only one.
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>>102640576
I like the piano work, but the lyrics could only be dreamed up by somebody who has very little understanding of the workings of the world / the human condition.
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>>102640576
i like the song.
but its pretty depressing.
from all angles it removes adversity, all obstacles, all goals, all motivation.
it makes me wanna lay down and die
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>>102641111
God damn anon calm down
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>>102640576
Godless commie horseshit.
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I used to be part of the EYP (European Youth Parliment), it's an EU youth organization, and they played this at the end of the grand session, getting us all to go shoulder to shoulder and sway to it, I realised then and there we were being indoctrinated by this globalist propaganda
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>>102640911
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>>102641111
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>>102640576
He talks about peace but punches his life, lmao.
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>>102640576
The song is complete garbage.

Also, Lennon was a shitty guitar player.
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>>102640576
TL;DR
>imagine if everyone acted white but was still brown enough for me to virtue signal about diversity, oh and MUH GOMMUNISM
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He is a dreamer and he helped actively to subvert a whole generation of no goods leeching of the state while living to long. Iam glad he is death otherwise one should kill him. John Hiroshima Lennon will enter history as one of those who have helped fabricate World War III
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Globalist propaganda.
>>102640576
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>>102640576
>imagine all the people living for today

Then who lives for tomorrow? Who's going to do the work while these faggots dance around and hold hands? Fucking commie bullshit
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>>102640576
It sounds nice, but doesn't seem practical.
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>>102640576

It is, in a nutshell the goal of the Mystery Religion of Babylon. Abolition of all nation states, abolition of all religion (save theirs), abolition of all private property. A true "equality" for all us serfs with no borders, no culture, no past or future.... soulless automatons.

Glad someone had the sense to rid the world of this communist piece of shit.
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>>102643336
>imagine if everyone acted white
What a beautiful world.
Alas, it cannot be achieved without use of nukes. Glad we have those.
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>Imagine if everyone was white.
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Delusional. World peace is unachievable. Blue-pilled as blue-pill can get.
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>>102640576
terrible.
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I prefer this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtY5bv-oxLE
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The only thing tragic about Lennon's death is that it happened 40 years too late.
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In a way it's a nice thought, everyone getting along, no wars bla bla bla, but it's idiotic to think it'll ever happen, people will always find a difference to fight over
And nobody should have to sacrifice their nation or culture just for some hippie shit
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>>102644037
this
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>>102641979
this
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>>102640576
Sounds dystopian. The soundtrack for a suicide cult, really creepy.
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>>102641403
>Pure Marxism.
This.
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>>102640576
He was playing MINNNNDDD GAAAMMMESS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6G2s6LNQQY
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>>102640576
I think it fits with a non-hoppean libertarianism, but theres the globalism problem, so I wouldn't like it.
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'magine all the people living life in peace ? I 'magine.
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>>102640576
A state of nature sounds nice but in reality it would be violent and overall shit
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>>102640576
*kicks in door*

*struts in with psalms on holsters*

jhin wrote that song when he was living on a 5ve star hotel pentsuite,, just so you know

*flicks brow and walks out*
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>>102640576
The world isn't going to be a planetary hugbox anytime soon, if any time at all.
But it doesn't hurt to imagine things, yeah. As long is doesn't make you want to march on a leppo.
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>>102640576

Drivel sung by a piece of shit hypocrite leftist
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>>102640576
I actually wrote something on this song for Composition last semester. I suppose I might as well post it.

1/2

I once loved John Lennon’s “Imagine” for its beauty and wistfulness. However, when I stopped to think critically about the song’s lyrics, I had a terrible realization. In recording “Imagine,” John Lennon was not just dreaming of a better world; Lennon, like many science fiction antagonists before him, was dreaming of a world completely free of individuality.


The tip-off was when I sang the song as part of a chorus in ninth grade. My choir director had decided to change the phrase "and no religion, too” to “and all religions, too.” When I asked him why, he gave me a very straight-forward answer. “Well, we can’t have no religion!” Religion, it seemed, was very important to him. “Wait,” I thought to myself. “isn't everything else that John Lennon mentions important too? What about countries and possessions? I like my country, and I like my possessions.”


This is when reality set in. I realized that “Imagine” must have come from the propaganda wing of SEELE, the secret organization whose goal is to merge all humans into a single entity. I’m kidding, of course. SEELE is a fictional organization from an anime that I hadn’t even watched yet at the time. Still, I saw “Imagine” as propaganda and my fellow choir members as sheeple, unable to see the truth about the song.
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>>102646248
2/2

Later that same year, Glenn Beck lambasted Glee for indoctrinating the youth of America, using their cover of “Imagine” as evidence. He didn’t seem to understand that Glee was just a television program that covered popular songs, or that “Imagine” was a popular song long before Glee covered it. His embarrassing lack of research, along with his general reputation, made me want to disassociate myself from him by altering my own view of the song, which made sense to me as a fourteen year old. And so, I decided that “Imagine” was benign, and that I had merely been over-analyzing it.


However, in the time since making that decision, I have realized that I shouldn't change my opinions just because I don't like the other people who share them, and my view on "Imagine" has reverted to being a critical one. I also have a name for the ideology expressed by Lennon in his song; it is called communism. This ideology exists outside of science fiction, and there are some students on my own campus who subscribe to it. However, I do not hate “Imagine.” I merely hate the ideology that Lennon drew his inspiration from. In fact, I have learned to enjoy “Imagine” by constructing my own narrative for it. Musical buffs use the term “villain song” to describe a musical number used to introduce a villain or explain their motivations. “Imagine” is John Lennon’s villain song.


It is worth noting that, despite clearly favoring communism, Lennon was a successful capitalist. In court, the assassin who killed Lennon cited The Catcher in the Rye, a book written from the perspective of a man who is obsessed with hypocritical individuals, referred to within the text as “phonies.” I speculate that Lennon’s assassin was incensed by the hypocrisy inherent in a chart-topping song about the glory of communism.
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>>102641825
? A christian world is a better world.

Other religions can die out as they produce worse results.
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>>102640576
it's a song about imagining a perfect world. A world with no ideology, no conflict. It's fun to imagine but it could never happen.
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>We're gonna be bigger than God/Jesus in America!
And then you got shot, asshole. Feeling very godlike now?
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The song represents what the world will look like after the day of the rope
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>>102646248
You sound like a pretentious moron, i bet you think nobody understands you and your eternal struggle against the dim masses.Write a poem about it faggot then recite it to your boyfriend.
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>>102640576

after ww3

also, fuck off hippie
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>>102640576
the song implies a nuclear holocaust of all life on earth
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>>102642138
Stand strong my man.
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>>102640576
Gay song by a wealthy musician

have another bong it, I'm sure it makes it sound even better OP
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>Imagine no possessions

He says when he was worth $800 million
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complete cancer
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>>102646793
Lefty fags never shut up about him, despite his death.

Just like Christfags never shut up about Jesus.

I'd say he succeeded.
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>>102640576
This song is communism and multiculturalism in a nutshell. Fuck this gay ass song.
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>>102640576

It's shitty commie gutter trash for brainwashing moron baby boomers
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>>102640576
Pretty much the worst song ever written.
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>>102646491
A Christian world would be better than most but at the end of the day the only thing in religion that matters is moral agency.

>Other religions can die out
Yeah I would be happy if we would just do away with religions that proactively give harmful results. Christianity hasn't been a problem for hundreds of years, I don't think buddhism ever has been.

I'm looking at you islam
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liberal hippie pacifistic cuckold bullshit
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>>102640576
the music is alright but the lyrics describe a dystopia
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>Imagine all the people living for today

Commie genocide NOW.
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Pushing his satanic luciferian ideology.
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>>102642138
based magyar
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>>102640576
If wishes were horses beggars would ride
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>>102646248
>>102646308
Please tell me this is bait

This is the most pretentious shit I skimmed through in months
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>>102640576

Back in the day?
Whoa dude deep as fuck .. he's right .. all we need to do is smoke weed take mushrooms and let go of everything.

Today?
Hippy bullshit.
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what about this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njG7p6CSbCU
just as bad? worse? better?
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Like communism, he assumes far too much of people. Humans are vile, tribal creatures who have existed in some form of conflict or war forever, and I'm not exaggerating. We have been killing each other en masse long before even modern man emerged. There's no escaping this. War, violence, and bloodshed are synonymous with humanity.

Guy took one too many mushrooms and forgot that, it seems.
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wew
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>>102647634
Christians have never been a problem, they have been a solution for most of history. Sure it's stained but what isn't?

Our problem is a lack of Christianity.
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>>102640576
The song makes me sick to listen to, it has since I knew about the globalist agenda and all of the other shit I do today.

It demonizes things that give individuals strength -their faith, their countrymen, and the things they've worked hard for- all with a call for unity over individual thought. Especially the "nothing to kill or die for" line. Imagine life being so utterly pointless.

It's the most frightening thing I can think of.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea2kCxCaBh0

This version is by far the superior one.
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>>102647313
seek sex
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Whenever religion gets mentioned at all, my father starts ranting, says religion is the root of all evil and caused every single war, then he'll inevitably start singing this song. Happens every god damn time.
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>>102640576
>people living for today
>people living life in peace

pick 1. those living for today will fuck their peaceful neighbors, figuratively and literally
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>>102640576
Commie atheistic satanic globalist NWO filth.
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>>102640576
The only good part is the "no religion" part.

You'd have to be pretty retarded to be religious these days anyway. I mean you probably have an IQ below 80 if you're religious.
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rich fag with loads of material items sings communist bullshit.
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>>102640576
The song sucks and the lyrics are also total Utopian nonsense.
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>>102648780
Amen
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>>102649287
wont it be great when those sub 80 IQ sand niggers take over Europe though/?
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>>102640576
the idea of globalism is nice, unfortunately Africa and the Middle East exist

it's more of a dream than anything
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>>102640576

song is weak and cucked

sage and gay
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BTFO
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>>102640576

Simplistic drivel.
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>>102648868
I meant it made me sick before I knew about globalism, not since.

Fuck.
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>>102640576
Sounds fucking boring, both ideologically and musically.
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>>102649423
Western Europe, maybe, not Eastern Europe.

They have no chance here.
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>>102649655
I hope so, hopefully the better industry moves east before the west is completely fucked
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>>102643772
Beatles power rankings

1. Paul McCartney
2. George Harrison
3. Ringo Starr
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Power gap
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9001 john lennon
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>>102640576
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I've had a deep hatred for this song from the very first time I heard the very first note. Still hate it to this day.
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>>102641111
Kek has spoken
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>>102646248
the first 2 paragraphs were good desu
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>>102649992
If we still believed in religion and gods, we wouldn't have the medicine which saves your ass today from the most basic viruses or engineering which makes it possible for you to own a car and use giant infrastructures.

Abiding strictly by religion is what defines present-day Muslims, who haven't produced any significant scientific discovery or feat of engineering for centuries.
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>>102649920
No no no. 1.George 2.Paul 3.John 4.Ringo
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>>102640576
Idealistic but unrealistic.

The idea is worth promoting. Hope and work for the best but prepare for the worst. And I also happen to be Christian and like my religion, even though I'm not an extremist who expects everyone else to think like me.
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Pretty much what ar' Nige thinks.
https://twitter.com/simonblackwell/status/469219768147640320
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>>102648780
>Our problem is a lack of Christianity.
Amen.
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>>102640576
Naive is the best adjective I can find for the content of the song.
The song itself is an absolute masterpiece though
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>>102651197
Wrong.
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>>102643310
How is >8< not a meme yet?
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>>102651197
>implying there weren't a shitload of religious scientists that viewed their work as discovering god's creation
Tip harder.
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>>102651634
>faith
>mental infancy
>imaginary friendos
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I know someone who was very close to him and can redpill you guys on him if you want
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His utopia sounds nice but unfortunately will never be a reality due to how flawed humans are. Also change starts at home - he was an abusive violent man
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The problem with the whole 'world without borders' mindset is that the leftists touting it really mean 'a world without white borders'.

White culture must go, but every other culture is sacred and marginalized and must somehow be kept distinct AT THE SAME TIME as being enmeshed in this theoretical cultural cesspool.

It makes no fucking sense besides them being apologists for minorities.
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>>102640576

He was a Socialist race mixing cunt that swallowed the commie line and was used against the British population by Soviets.

And then he got what he deserved.
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>>102652411
>>102652347
No, not really. They were forced by their own environment to pledge allegience to the god-of-the-day, otherwise they'd have their heads cut.

If you didn't signal your allegiance to religion, you could have the same fate as Giordano Bruno or Galilei.

But the closer you go to modernity, the more these deist scientists become a very rare occurance, rather than the norm.

Guess what, the environment changed and they had the freedom of conscience to believe whatever they wanted. And their high intellect couldn't accept a childish explanation like religion.
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>>102652758
It makes perfect sense when the desired outcome is genocide of white people.
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>>102653092
>They were forced by their own environment to pledge allegience to the god-of-the-day, otherwise they'd have their heads cut.
Nice meme retard.

No, there were tons of christian scientists (James Maxwell) that were devout and true believers.
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>>102640576
its stupid.
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>>102653082
I believe shortly before his death the CIA were investigating him. I wonder if the CIA had him killed to stop him spreading commie propaganda
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>>102651197
no. Universities were coined by the Holy Catholic Church
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>>102649103
I have a UTI right now

Feels bad man
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The shapmeister made a video about it
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>>102653092
>But the closer you go to modernity, the more these deist scientists become a very rare occurance, rather than the norm.

Or maybe it's still the norm and you just don't hear about it because of an active campaign to promote anti-theisism.
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>>102651197
>being this ignorant of just how many influential scientists were Christian

Spoiler: It's most of them
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>>102640576
Perhaps the greatest song ever?
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>>102654851
No?
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that he is fucking retarded.
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>>102655079
ok, well we're all entitled to our own opinion.
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>>102641111
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>>102640576
This song is completely anathema to everything I believe. I physically retch when hearing this song.

"Revolution", on the other hand, is a great teardown of anti western shitfucks who just want to destroy everything and replace it with half baked nonsense and sandniggers.
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>>102655265
>ok, well we're all entitled to our own opinion.
Uhh, no we're not. Imagine no opinions, it's easy if you try.
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>>102640576
It's all imagination
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>>102640576
quintessentially degenerate
>imagine the world was shit and boring and dominated by ((them))
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>>102641111
Scousers eternally btfo

BTW is Paul Joseph Watson a Liverpudlian? I know the UK has a billion different accents but he kinda sounds like a Beatle
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>>102640576
its a song for cucks
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>>102640576
>multimillionaire musician telling me I should give up my possessions and beliefs for his unfeasible utopian society
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>>102655806
Meatier
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>>102640576
Was right about religions, everything else is just globalist bullshit.
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>>102640576

nonsensical utopian commie gobble-de-guck
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What a little faggot.
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>>102641979
>realitarian

We making up words now to sound smart?
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>>102649287
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Imagine there's no platitude
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to cuck or kike for
And no marxism too
Imagine all the people living life separately in peace,
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>>102640576
Fucking Disgusting
>dreams about communist utopia
>wants no country
>wants no religion
>wants racial tolerance to everyone
>wants peace

Lennon was a fucking arrogant and narcissistic leftist ass hole.

No fucking wonder he was killed.
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>>102655806
>BTW is Paul Joseph Watson a Liverpudlian?

Nah, he is from somewhere in Yorkshire. desu i am southern and can not place it that easily.

https://youtu.be/ScELaXMCVis
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>>102640576
I think John Lennon never formed a thought worth remembering in his entire life. He stated obvious shit an 8 year old will think but eventually grow out of when they realize real life doesn't work like your imagination.
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>>102651197
t. Gypsy
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>>102647071
and Yoko holds onto all his shit tightly like its her balls.

won't let Paul have primary credit for songs Paul entirely wrote and composed
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I like Dig a pony
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>>102640576
IMAGINE
APPLE CORP.

( Imagine A Paul Corpse)
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>>102651634

I doubt you'd find many English politicians willing to criticise Lennon. Hero.
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>>102653631

Doesn't mater if it was the CIA, it was commie propaganda, and he needed to die.
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>>102640576
John was a perfect representation of human beings. He was a contradiction. A hypocrite. There was no 1 John. He was a perfectly flawed human being. Also very creative
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>>102641979
Did you mean non-realist?
Cause there's a name for that
Idealist
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>>102649992
>Islam
>Peaceful
>not a detriment to the world
k
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>>102640576
pinko garbage
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>>102659993
Islam being extra shit doesn't mean that atheism isn't shitty.
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>>102640576
Peace goes directly against what humans crave, chaos and freedom.

In times of peace the warlike man attacks himself
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>>102640576
>Nigger couldn't get along with Paul McCartney to write music.
>Thinks people can get along deciding on who gets the office job vs. who takes out the trash

Typical hippy faggotry.
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>>102659552

just a musician mate
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>>102646248
I like the point you're trying to make but you come off as someone that dickrides himself too hard.
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>>102640576
Hearing that fucking song at the end of The Killing Fields was unbelievably disgusting.
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>>102640576
It's describing the communist ideal.
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>>102640576
Horrific leftist "utopia."
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>>102663477
This. Lennon was clearly a communist, pushing the cultural-marxism agenda since the mid 70's.
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At first glance it's globalism: the theme song

Later listens it kinda feels like a criticism of institutions like the UN who want "the world to be as one" despite constant wars, poverty,,
etc.
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>>102640576
Encapsulation of modern day ideology the goal of which is to fuse all human being together because of the misguided idea that we're all the same and that there is only one possible way of life or that all ways of life are compatible with one another.

If Lenonn was still alive he'd deserve to be shot.
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Imagine if he shut the fuck up.
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>>102644340
this.
A Perfect Circle's remake makes it easier to see this song is really a dystopian marxist nightmare.
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>>102646248
You need to kill yourself right now holy fuck
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>>102663990
Yeah because the world today is pretty much perfect.
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>>102664601
>leaf
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>>102664234
He did. Someone shot him.
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>>102664601
Someone put it quite well.

The communist ideal lies across a lake of blood and you never get there.
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>>102664687

(((someone)))
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>>102664687
Ha, imagine that.
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>>102640576

I have a giant poster framed on my wall that has the lyrics on it. To be honest, It's been there so long I haven't been bothered to take it down. At times I read it and question my past fandom with Lennon.
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>>102664887
Why so polarizing? The US has social programs. Yet it's not communist.
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>>102640576
You don't need to imagine it, there are real life examples of societies with those aspects to them. They suck.
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>>102664685
stupid fat
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>>102640576
While I would like to see an end to religion, I do not want to see a world of globalism and diversity.

If you think about it, liberals complain a lot about Christianity, but that really got the ball rolling for globalism and communism. In essence, the very idea of Christianity is one world under a single religion. You couldn't really have things like the Social Justice Warriors or globalist corporatism without the teachings of Christ.
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