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that pretty much all the photos I liked from the batch, other newbies feel free to post

Do some post processing because this shit is making my eyes bleed. On second thought the composition is so subpar it's not even worth trying to polish these turds. Just burn it all to the ground and try again.

>>3121671
Try to be more drastic with the angles you're shooting at, there's a lot of head-on shots. It'd also be good to incorporate a variety of poses, don't know if she was a professional or not, but if you plan on doing it again try researching poses to give you inspiration/a better idea of how to pose. I'd also do portraits and headshots, and maybe make the clothes not so similar to the background.
>>3121675
>>3121680
These two are my fave because her face is exposed the best in the first, and you're at a lower angle in the second.

Love the vibe of the shoot overall

>>3121687
Ay thanks bud and yeah she's my neighbor not a professional so we were just kinda winging it, I tried my best with the poses.

I plan on doing another shoot soon with her and a friend at a old mansion in town soon so Ill try out more portraits and headshots when there.

thank you for the legitimate feedback btw

she's not great at facial expressions, just kind of making the same neutral face in most of them. i'd do some colour correction so she doesn't look so yellow.

>>3121690
No problem! Fashion shoots is my favorite thing to do atm

Another thing I'd suggest is to have her move through the poses, that way you get some unique poses caused by movement. Instead of static poses, you know? You may have done that already but I find telling that to my friends helps to help them feel a little more comfortable.

>>3121713
Ya I was snapping away as she was going through poses, just a bit too much motion blur on most of em too look good

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>>3121671
>>3121675
>>3121677
These 3 are excellent from a posing and composition perspective, but your white balance is utterly fucked. Way too warm.
Also you can tidy these up with a little cropping.

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>>3121880

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>>3121881

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>>3121881
nice bokeh i guess

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>>3121675
This or

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>>3121675
This

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Part 1.

>>3121671
This would have been better as a portrait orientation, a bit tighter in, higher exposure. She looks bored.
I'd suggest having this one as a 3/4 shot in stead of a wide environmental; you'll still have the buildings in the background and the rail around her.
Then the general list. The general list will be for pretty much all the photos. This one has OK white balance, at least comparatively.

>>3121672
This composition is just boring. The surrounding environment adds nothing as poorly lit as it is.

I get what you're trying to do, but here's where it's falling short:
If you exposed the image how it should be despite the lighting conditions, the overhead lights would be completely blown out.
That shot would be better earlier in the evening, when there is more light from outside. You might have to make arrangements to have the lights on at that time, depending on timers and what-not.
The strip of overhead lights looks like it is growing from her head. She needs to be much closer to the door; it will frame her better and add plenty of separation to the ceiling. There will still be plenty to have a good environmental texture.
Maybe consider shooting a little wider and getting closer, or using a longer lens and getting farther back. Your model is a bit lost in the scene.

>>3121674
This one is a bit better, though exposure is still much too low.
The model looks stiff and uncomfortable. Hands in the pockets is not flattering to anyone. It's like she doesn't know what to do with her hands.
She needs to be better separated from her immediate surroundings, or positioned differently. There is not nearly enough interior context in my opinion. The droplets on the glass are nice, but the pole to the right is distracting. The post she's leaning on looks like it's growing from her head.

More to come ...

>>3121910
Part 2.

>>3121675
Better than the previous photo, though I still dislike the placement of the post.
Hands, yo! She needs to learn to use them, and you should learn to direct them.
Still refer to the general list.

>>3121676
White balance on this one is better.
It is still under-exposed.
She is off-center, which adds a lot to the photo:
The doors are less covered, and the light bar is not growing from her head.
The shadows are still much too harsh. Her legs and hands are severely darker than her face.
She clearly has no clue what to do with her arms and hands.

>>3121677
This one is meh.
She's back in the center, blocking the door, with lights growing fro her head.
She's yellow again.
At least she did something with that mop on her head, and has an excuse to do something with her hands (though it's not really a great thing for models to do with their hands).

>>3121679
Fake smile.
Yellow model.
under-exposed as shit.
Poor background choice. Oddly cut-off buildings are distracting. either position her so there are more, or so they are not so badly cut off (such as shooting from higher up -- is she taller than you? Were you crouching? She's not a car! You don't have to shoot from the ground!)

More to come ...
Distracting rail.
Over-all not terrible, but if she weren't so bland, the surroundings would catch less attention.

>>3121910
>>3121914
part 3.
This needs to be much tighter. Landscape is fine, but really get in there! Her head needs to be just below the top of the frame, her feet just above the bottom. If she knew what to do with her hands (holy fuck her right hand! The hell is that?!), her left elbow wouldn't be so far out, and you could frame with her arm just inside the shot. You would still have great context that she is on stairs with a colorful mural.
The lighting in this building is better for the shot, but still uneven. Even if you had off-camera lighting, stairs are difficult.

>>3121681
This one I think is about the best in the set. The buildings in the background are better hidden.
The model looks like she is at least doing something with one of her hands, though she is still clueless with the other.
Her pose is a bit odd, especially letting her hair drape all over her body like that (she'd hiding what she's supposed to be displaying: the curve of her left side in that pose), but it could have worked better.
Your white balance is OK, but the image is still a bit underexposed.
You could have been either closer to the rail, putting the brown building close to the right side of the frame. This would facilitate putting the model in a better location in frame.

General list to come.

>>3121910
>>3121914
>>3121916

The general list, part 1:

Her outfit is bullshit. It looks terrible, and looks bad on her. How, you ask?

The solid black top makes her look two-dimensional; it has no shadow or depth. In a dark environment, even a medium-dark tone would have been better. People are round; they need shadows. The top is so dark it doesn't even have fabric texture. This isn't about boobs. It's about good photography.

Her shorts are not good for photographs of this type. If they were of rebellious teen-ish antics, then maybe. She needs something ... else. Their fit is not flattering to her. Short shorts look much better tighter in photographs. The pockets are distracting.

She has no actual style; it's like she believes wearing black with everything will make her look stylish. It doesn't. Her top is dressier than the shorts, which belong in a bin or with a baggy -- or at least less fitted -- jersey. The white on the shoes is distracting from the rest of the outfit, though if she were wearing something like a sports jersey, they would work decently enough; especially with more colors.

The top would look much better in a brighter environment, and with better bottoms. Even something like fitted jeans would work much better.

Why is your model yellow in almost every shot? Why white balance on the background, and not the subject of the photos? You said you've photographed cars. How do you not know how critical white balance is?

You would do well with off-camera flash -- even if just a little -- to improve your exposure of your model.

Her hair is a mess. Stray hairs are distracting. It just looks like she doesn't care about herself. Did she have it styled for the shoot?

more to come ...

>>3121917
general list, finale.

Her expression is terrible. She looks bored or fake in almost every photo. Try getting natural expressions.

Did you even re-touch? What's with the blemishes? Did she have a makeup artist or even apply any makeup before the shoot? It's not about making her look like plastic, but damn!
Is she beaten on a regular basis? The fuck is with the bruises on her legs? The odd veiny marks and patterns?

She is not leggy; she has long legs, but they are not shapely. She looks like the type of 'model' who thinks she can get away with just being skinny.

>>3121907
this one beats the other one because at least her skintone doesn't look bad

do you shoot jpegs?

My one suggestion (take with salt im new too) would be to have your model look away from the camera.

she has a blank expression which looks bland when straight on to the camera, whereas looking away might turn that into an carefree look

>>3121836
>>3121677
>>3121674

I like these, but white balance is off. Use a grey card next time or if you want to really hit it (especially for a human subject) get a color check card.

Reflection on the glass is anooying/diistraction. Angle it or get a cp filter.

SHe has a dance figure. I would ask her to wear something like a ballet dance outfit, and shoot again at that location. The pipes on the wall and the parking structure lends to the Urban Ballet thing, imo.

Nice set overall, and at least you didn't spill your stomach contents.

>>3122014
IMO she just looks bored. The direction she is looking does not matter.

Look at the photo where she is smiling. It's not real. It's a construed emotion for the camera. I know, she's a modeling and not capturing a moment. But models can fake it well enough to make it seem real.

She shows no confidence, no happiness, no passion. She is a void. She is not engaged with what she is doing. She is hoping her 'pretty' looks* will be enough to get her modeling work.

Judging by the fact that she is completely clueless about what to do with her hands, I can say she is likely as inexperienced at modeling as OP is with photographing people. This would also explain that she doesn't know what to do with her face; she does not know how to play off the camera.

* She's really not that pretty. She's not bad, but the way she presents herself to the camera is completely uninteresting. She also does not know how to work with what she has for the best benefit to herself.

>>3121671
The first one is perfect, the rest has some issues, most have been mentioned. Nothing wrong with her bored look, the black top or the white balance though. And you should't crop them. The fact that you are not used to shouting portraits shows in a very positive way.

>>3121944
Either fuck up the background or make her skin slightly more realistic that very few people really care about

Do you actualy take pictures?

>>3121907
Make it portrait instead of landscape

>>3122016
Were you abused by a woman as a child?

>>3121671
>Exposure Time 1/10 sec
>ISO Speed Rating 100
>Exposure Program Manual
Too dark overall.
Shoot in P mode and bump that ISO and expose for your fucking model. Nikon awful skin tones need to be polished with Raws, especially with those mixed light sources. Damn! even your pop-up flash could have saved your pictures.

>>3121671
did you bang her after the shoot?

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>>3121675

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>>3121672
dont listen to the faggots above. theyre criticizing shit they cant even see lmao.

since youre shooting digishit you have lots of room for error and transformation, that includes shit light. get better pp game, so you can model your shot to what you had in your mind when you shot it.

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>>3124402
>>3124411
Great job, you overexposed his shots. What was this supposed to fix, exactly?

>>3124424
shut the fuck up, you retarded tripfag

I'm not saying what he's done is super good, but considering these were high iso jpegs, the second one actually looks better and the overexposed bits are unimportant

>>3124483
The shots were exposed fine. Any problems they had couldn't be fixed in post, except maybe the white balance (which he didn't even change in his edits)
I'm more pissed because he was a dick about criticizing OP's pics when they're not even that bad. Hell, they're pretty good for a person working with a model for the first time. Then he acted all full of himself because he "fixed" them with his shitty edits

>>3124491
his edits were shit, but in what world are those shots exposed fine, they're dark as fuck

aren't you the guy that made a creepshot tele thread?

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>>3124492
Yessir. Why, are they underexposed?
It's not that the shots are underexposed, it's that his model is poorly lit. A slightly dark scene is fine, but if your model almost blends into the background because of it, then you've got a problem. Again, this isn't a problem you can fix in post (without looking grossly artificial). The solution is to find spots where the model is better lit.
and btw >>3121675 doesn't even have that problem. She's perfectly lit. The only issue is the white balance

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>>3124396
No but I got some succ, she invited me to go out with her friend, we got drunk and snuck into a estate and swam in their pool lmao

>>3121671
No shoe on head?

>>3124402
woah dude wtf that looks like a 16 year old played with the sliders in lightroom for the first time in their life

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>>3121671
These are all generally poor due to exposure/lighting, white balance, and too high of ISO.

You should have worked closer to any lights around you, and set your white balance with a grey card for each light. You'd get some funky backgrounds but at least she'd have normal skin tone.

>>3121672
Awkward pose, cool location, move her to the side a bit.
>>3121674
Awful WB, beam behind her sucks, focus is off I think it's on the window.
>>3121675
Better but all previous problems remain. WB so fucked.

>>3121676
Face too dark legs look weird, good position in the hallway, would move her one more step to her right.

>>3121677
I like the pose more, but need to move her back to her right.

>>3121679
Such a bad facial expression. Cool setting, but her face is underexposed

>>3121680
Fix the marks on her legs in post. Can crop out the above stuff if you aren't going to include the entire mural.

>>3121681
One of the better ones, but her face is underexposed again, and WB is unnatural.

>>3121880
Get this shit out of here.

>>3124497
Best in thread girl looks precious <3 do you have more

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>>3125814
Idk if you looked but the ISO is as low as possible

>>3125855
Yeah fair enough. My bad. I guess it's just the camera being pushed to its limit in low light.

Do you pay your models or do people you know volunteer?

>>3127851
This chick is my neighbor she just hmu

Going out to take more pics with her tonight

>>3128335
well?

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>>3128815
just got done

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>>3128955
Shadow makes her boob look very strange

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>>3128960
I'm not trying to shit on you mate: have you ever looked at a good portrait?

I don't mean the stuff that gets posted on the internet. If you are into fashion stuff like this look at magazines, look at photo books, look at art.

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>>3128964
Do you notice what's wrong with this picture? If you find it: it's a metaphor for what is wrong with most of your stuff. You don't pay attention, you just place somebody somewhere and press the shutter.

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>>3128971
Ya the fly lmao my dumb ass only missed this one I caught the rest

>>3128982
You are so ignorant that I won't even start trying to help you.

>>3128985
Thank you photo god

>>3128973
arrr matey

I think you can learn a lot from your own photos here, but it's really difficult to do that without letting them sit for 3 years and then coming back.

First of all- color balance. You are shooting in the evenings and she and everything else is illuminated by yellow light. (Much more than you feel when you are there, your eyes adjust.) There isn't much you can do to fix this apart from: a) shooting earlier b) using some much bluer light that is either there, or you bring it with you. It doesn't have to be daylight balanced, it just has to be much bluer than the one that is there and you can set the white balance. Feel free to also bring grey cards and take photos of them.

Second: exposure. If you are shooting a model, don't expose for the scene, expose for the model. Because blowing out the background is less bad than having your model's skin in the shadows and getting it blotchy as a result.

Third: poses. This is to a large extend the model's fault and tell her not to feel free to look at herself in the mirror for half an hour and try different faces and so on. Modeling isn't easy and it isn't natural for most! Look at this one: >>3128952 She looks much better than that photo, which makes her look sort of dumb, overweight, and without boobs.

Next, and in this case really next, comes composition. It doesn't seem you have much to work with, but perhaps flat geometric backgrounds would do better. Rent out a hotel room if you can, or find a chair next to a white wall, or something.

>>3128966
This is the only good one.
>she's literally green, but at least you can see her and the pose and expression are flattering.
Why the fuck won't you fix your white balance?
It takes one click in PS.
Also cropping and straightening is a thing.
Jesus wept.

>>3128955
>>3128999
I kind of like the first picture, although it could be sharper, and the crop is a bit awkward (did you crop it?). Unlike anon I don't think she looks dumb or overweigh, and I don't need to see her boobs. You could have done some touch up around her mouth in post though.
>>3128955
not bad, but take out the street light on her shoulder (you should have taken a step to the right). The shadow on her boob is indeed awkward, but i's normal to miss stuff like that at first - not that difficult to edit in post. >>3128964
the open fly is hilarious, fuck your models after the shoot, not during!

Other than that she should work on her poses and facial expressions, but you should also be able to tell her what to change during the shoot without pissing her of if you do it nice and calmly

>>3129068
wb obsession is for fags, I'm sure it's his artistic choice ore something, but cropping and straightening could help some of those pictures

>>3129093
>wb obsession is for fags, I'm sure it's his artistic choice ore something
plz tell me you are trolling... plz..

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>>3128973
look for nice spots ahead of the shoot and get her to stop putting her fingers in her belt loops. give her something to hold if necessary, and a belt obviously

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>>3129105
no trolls on this site

>>3129105
purple balance is all that counts >>3128953

light the face or smt

it looks flat

>>3129093
>implying this shit is deliberate grading
Nah, he's just a lazy fuck.

>>3129126
Do you really think the pics come out just the way they are in this thread they are obviously processed

don't have time to put in a long response right now, but the second shoot might be worse than the first one. tons of exposure and wb problems.

don't get discouraged, you'll get better. practice very slowly and deliberately on non human subjects in similar lighting. once you can do that, then focus on posing and live model etc.

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>>3129448
god, another white balance nazi, it's not that big of a deal, he should concentrate on composition and directing the model

>wb obsession
>white balance nazi
has someone ever been so triggered by one slider?

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>>3129651

>>3129653
triggered yes, but by all the people being triggered, not the slider

>>3129651
>it's not that big of a deal
>still fixes it
Looks infinitely better

>>3129671
it's not that big of a deal because it's so easy to fix. my point is he should first focus on the things he can't fix in post, like composition, poses, facial expressions and more general lighting

>>3129927
sometimes wb is an easy fix but it is often unfixable

>>3129671
>>3129651
>streetlights are red
>implying that's the proper whitebalance

>>3130272
>they are
>it is

>>3130281
>>3130272
>not using masks to have correct WB on the model and correct color of background lights

>>3129656
they're just pointing out that the white balance is off, how is that different from pointing out any other quality of the image being off?

op said "rip my asshole" not "suck my dick about it"

>>3130286
>ignoring obvious irony
>expecting me to put actual effort into fixing his shitty jpgs to make a quick point
>>3130296
true, just got annoyed with the repetition, also no harm in ripping some rippers

Nice pics

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did this edit OP

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>>3131399
lets make her face as flat as possible

your light always sucks op

>>3131402
yea the lighting on her face is really bad especially in a jpg, maybe OP has more room to fix it in raw.

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>>3121671
>>3121672
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>>3121681
>underexposed
>no background separation
>weird skin tone caused by underexposure contrast with post-golden hour shitty light
>boring compositions

Open your aperture, if you can't get past f2.8 you shouldn't be shooting portraits or fashion (bar runway) with that lens.
Fix your white balance.
Shoot an hour or two earlier.

>>3129651
white balance is such a small thing compared to composition and direction that there really isn't any reason to get it wrong.

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>>3128955
>>3131836
>>3131835
fuck wb, just take off her shirt

>>3128966
Same Paris Hilton expressionless stare of being angry/bored/are we done yet pose.

>>3132057
Old ugly goblin hands. Where's the catch-light from?

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>>3128966

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>>3132057
this is fantastic

>>3132057
love the shot

Listen OP, if you didn't smash, I will never forgive you.

Sorry if there are any ladies itt

Your pictures are boring at best, And godawful at worst, Which is the dominant case.

Did you at least Smash?

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>>3121671
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background is too distracting. there's no contrasting exposure between her and her surroundings which makes it look pretty flat as well.

my advice, use dodge and burn to help your subject pop out of its environment if you can't do that already on location. also, try to eliminate as much clutter as you can. if it doesn't add to the image, it takes away from it.

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>>3132057
love this one. lighting composition and posing 10/10 but anon was right about those goblin hands lol

>>3121679
>that white balance
>that fucking facial expression

>>3121907
>>3121906
Note to yourself, if the background doesn't make a change, cut it and keep only the model, >>3123238 Exactly what this fella says, the little drops in the back gives it a good effect. Nice work on that one

>>3124411
It has a nice framing gives it a simetric look with her being asimetric, makes her stand out, she could use another outfit to contrast with the urban location

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How much do you charge for a basic outdoor shooting ?
I usually do around 500 photos of a person ( most of them are the same scenario etc)
I edit them all, delete the unfocused ones, upload them all to cloud server and give her the link. and share on my ig and let them use on their instagram too and credit me.

>www.instagram.com/colornoise_linz

This is my 2nd acc, just bc i didn't want to upload "model shootings" on my main acc
It just happened that some girl contacted me asking if 'd shoot with her. I agreed, she sent me outfits photos, we picked one and decided to meet.
1hour later she msgs me "hey i can't, im in stress, bye"
This fucking annoyed me so much that i decided to do it for money only now, fucking bitches....lol

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>>3129110
Woah, I'm new her (not op) but it's interesting how much difference it made by cropping it. How do you learn that?

>>3136189
just practice. I've been doing it for 4 month now, bought Lightroom and ps 2 month ago, simply played with the dials and tried differed crops for different compositions until i found out what I liked and what works. as long as you shoot in manual and don't use any presets you will learn fast

>>3136068
love the model, looked at your stuff, really nice, but why don't you straighten your pics and why do you overexpose most of your models so much?

>>3136200
hey,, what do you mean by straighten ?
overexposing little bit so i don't get too many details of the skin maybe :)

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>>3136207
skin still looks good (although I can't/won't do much with a jpg), and there are better ways to clean the skin than overexposing!? that's what schoolgirls do on their phones

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>>3136207
>straighten
like this

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>>3136207
your version, I'd also crop it btw

veteran model photographer here.

1. look for good good light. not fucking night time/indoor shit light. wIndow light is your friend. take it from there.
2. stop focusing on all the shit around the model. it's a model shoot. get close and connect with the model. connection is everything. her face says, "this is taking a while but he's being nice so I'll shit the night away to not hurt his feelers"
3. you've got promise. also you're on the right track. these will embarrass you one day.
4. her outfit is bad.
5. look up pose inspirations and bring them with you.

God these are so lifeless and stiff

hope you didnt post these anywhere besides /p/ anon

>>3136260
post your own work or be immediately dismissed as a roleplayer

I don't know if it's just me but she seems tense? You need to connect a bit and chat with the model before starting with pictures Imho.

Retarded questions coming right up:
>>3133788 Is the dof effect here made only by the lens or also post?

Second, not necessarily connected to the pic: How do you properly set wb of your photos? On what feels right or do you have a specific way?

>>3137131
I am not that poster, *but* ...

It looks like the DoF was created by shooting wide. The rainbow effect in front of the model looks like a prism was held i front of the lens.

As for white balance, you've got options, both creative and not so creative. Some people use a shite balance card, while some people will set the white balance based on the type of lighting (not so reliable since light temp is so variable these days, though some people can 'see' the tint better than others), and some people do it all in post.

Basically, you want to adjust the shite balance so the skin tones -- at least in this case -- are as accurate as possible, or at least so they look as good as possible.

Of course, some people will go overboard and make images look different with 'creative' shite balance. This needs to be done with purpose, and not just whipping sliders until it looks ironic like a hipster turd made the image. At least be a good hipster, and have a reason for it as a creative effect.

>>3137131
just use auto white balance

>>3137131
if auto wb fails, use a grey card

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??

>>3140285
discount jonwayne?