Are 645 medium format cameras even worth the purchase?

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For years I thought anything smaller than 6x6 was stupid. Then I started shooting a bunch of 35mm in point and shoots. Realized how fun it was and how photography doesn't always need to be slowed down and super deliberate to get good results. Then I heard about the Fuji GA cameras, basically everything I liked about shooting 35mm point and shoots in a medium format package. Picked one up and have been loving it.

I still think shooting 6x4.5 with an SLR is silly, just as I think shooting 35mm with one is silly. But if you want to shoot MF in a portable package...there are a few good choices out there.

>>3112000
>shooting 35mm with [an SLR] is silly

nice trips but please explain. not necessarily arguing, just curious.

>>3111997
If you wanna go medium format compact and can afford it you might as well go 6x7

it's not liek a 645 compact is actually compact compared to a 35mm or an aps-c digital like a GRD

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>>3111997
>f4.5

>>>3112000
>f/4

Couldn't they have put a f/2.8 lens into these?

>>3112018
costs pretty much the same. all depends what you use it for
i use a 645 for travel and a 6x7 for when i can afford to slow down and set up the shot properly. mentally preparing myself for an 8x10 camera i guess

>>3112018
Exactly I wanna get a medium format rangefinder but can't choose between 645 and 6x7. The only benefit I see in 645 is more shots per roll. Also why are there no 6x6 rangefinders on the market?

>>3112025
>Also why are there no 6x6 rangefinders on the market?

There is the Mamiya 6 but it's not much smaller than the 6x7 Mamiya 7. But you can slightly retract the lens.

>>3112020
it doesn't cost the same if you're going for some really good shit like a mamiya 7 or a makina 67, they are on average twice as expensive as a fuji 6x4.5

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>>3112016
If I'm going to bother carrying a camera around that can't fit in my pocket, I might as well be shooting at least 6x4.5. Just my personal preference.

>>3112018
It actually is quite a bit smaller depth wise. The retracting lens of the GA series makes a considerate difference. Here's a picture of it compared to a Mamiya 6 with the lens retracted (try to imagine the 6 without the lens hood). I used to own a Mamiya 6, the GA is definitely more compact than either of Mamiya's RF offerings.

>>3112019
I mean, sure. How that would affect final camera dimensions and price tag, who knows. I imagine if they didn't do it it's because it would have had a negative impact on one of those things. The slow lens is my main gripe with the camera.

>>3112025
I know I'm shilling the Fuji GAs hard, but I think it'd be a shame to have your first medium format experience be one. They really are just like big point and shoots. If you really want a 6x6 RF, I can't recommend the Mamiya 6 enough. Stellar camera and one I used for travel for years.

>>3112028
I'd say 3x as much. Fuji GAs are ~$350 - $450.

Have to admit that I don't like the 4:3 aspect ratio. In MF I got 6x6 and 6x9 and while I like the square format from time to time, I prefer 2:3. So, for it's not worth the purchase.

>>3112019
But anon, considering that 645 is almost twice as large as 35mm (FF), f/4 is ~ f/2.8 "equivalent".. muahaha

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>pic related
my Fuji GA645i

fun to shoot. haven't developed any film yet from it, but have around ~10 portra 400 rolls through it. getting it dev'd on thursday.

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>>3112315

the best part is that you get 16 shots from it.

the camera also tracks how many rolls have been shot through it, which is pretty fucking awesome.

I shoot this camera mainly at night to utilize its on camera flash.

I also use this camera to shoot street photography with MF instead of 35mm because it has auto focus and auto exposure.

I bought mine with a roll counter of 18 for $580 shipped from Japan on ebay

>>3112315
>>3112317
Fuck that's pricey broski. Also, that's not a roll counter it's a frame counter. If yours shows "018 00" that means it's had ~1800 shutter clicks...or ~112 rolls of 120.
Hope your shots come out nice! The on-camera flash is fun.

>>3111997
no. better get xpan. at least you can get film for it.

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the difference between 645 and 35 is much more significant than the difference between 645 and 6x7

so yeah buy a 645 camera if you've never shot medium format it'll knock your socks off

this is a bronco etr, the cheapest medium format system outside damn holga

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>>3112867
But anon, the prostitute was standing still for you, and you still missed focus.
Are you sure your mirror is correctly aligned?