50mm lenses

>>3101681

I assume you mean Besides Canon, Nikon, and Minolta.

Because all three of those have a better selection of Full Frame lenses.

>>3101686
If you round up every nikon, canon and minolta 50mm there would be fewer and none would be as good image quality.

>>3101681
>Why choose any other brand?
Because Sony are unreliable and have shit customer service. Further more the only people that think they are good are splogs and shills and people who don't take photographs

>>3101681
why would you need all of them?

Also,
>50mm
Pffff, patricians use 55 or 58mm.

>>3101681
Sony: you can have any lens you want!....as long as it's a 50.

>>3101687
>none would be as good image quality.

IIRC Zeis Otus (for manual focus) and Sigma art (for auto focus) are still king of image quality.
And the old Sigma still has the nicest bokeh.

Why get any other 50 than those 3?

>12 variants of the easiest-to-make focal length with the worst real life applicability

really activates the almonds.

>>3101696
the zeiss 55mm outperforms the otus on everything except vignette and transmission.

>>3101688
Also their cameras cook a full English breakfast, will give your home black mold if you get one drop of water on them, and are actually $3000 plastic mockups that crumble into dust if you press the shutter button. Nobody has even noticed yet.

>>3101681
>half of lenses in OP's pic are for crop sensors
OP surely is a faggot

Kill yourself you little cunt.

>>3101715
>3 out of 12 are crop lenses
>half of them


Don't listen to fujicunts, their math is worse than Diane Abbott's.

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>tfw using Techart adapted Leica lenses on Sony A7ii

poorfags will never know this feel

>>3102328
Post one half decent shot from this ridonculous consumerfag setup of yours then.

And how's that battery treating you?

I got a fucking warning for reporting this bullshit. These fucking cunt mods actually support the sony cancer threads that are ruining this board.

/p/ is doomed

>>3102328
ITT: we fantasise about gear we don't actually own.

>>3101711
>with the worst real life applicability
what?

>>3102346

You want to censor discussion about a brand that you don't like, no one has harmed or wronged you from this company, but hating them is a facet of your life now?

Just think about your life for a sec.

>>3102349
I only have 9 different 50mm lenses :(

>>3102364
>How can anyone compete with Sony
>Why choose any other brand?
>muh discussion
The sole purpose of creating this thread was to bait in replies in hopes of starting another shitfest of sony cancer. Those were your intentions.

Just think about your life for a sec.

>>3102371
But his points are valid.

>How can anyone compete with Sony?

>Why choose any other brand?

Just think about the answers for a sec

>>3102371
You anti sony people are pathetic, you couldn't come up with any reasonable rebuttal so you went ad hominem.

Loser.

>>3101712
No it absolutely does not. You should occasionally check some other sources than dxo.

>>3102376
>all these normal lenses
>wow woow

>wish i had some other focal lengths as well ;_;

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>>3102376
>sonygger calls others pathetic

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>>3102378
The 55mm is sharper, has a t value much closer to it's f value and less flaring due to concave front element. I literally can not force out ca on my copy, even shooting things like reflective glass or railings with strong backlighting, nothing at 100% crop.

>>3102384
How many focal lengths does leica do?

>>3102390
Still no argument? no wonder you identify with the global symbol of being a beta.

>>3101681
>shitty as fuck ergonomics in everything from cameras to remote controls
>unreliable company that will outright lie to you and then blame it on customers "mishandling" the wares
>equipment just craps out if exposed to anything other than a cleanroom
>shitty company practices in general
>focusses only on NUMBERZ and not on making an actually usable product
>"We will not invest 10 million in security to prevent 1 million of damages" *customer data gets hacked* "well, uhm..." *customer data gets hacked again* "well, here, have 10 dollars for our store only"
Have I mentioned that they are lying bastards?

>>3102392
wew lad, ease up on all this projection

I'm AMAZED that the Sonytard hasn't posted a contrast-chart yet

>>3102392
>my c-c-copy has no CA guise, s-s-seriously.

Ahahahahahaha

>>3102376
>muh moral high ground
>muh hyperbole
Never go full retard my man. U know this.
You couldn't wait

>>3102376
>"Sony is a dishonest, immoral company and you shouldn't give them money"
>"WOOOOOW NICE AD HOMINEM DUDE, TRY MAKING A REAL ARGUMENT MAN!"

>>3102396
>subjective opinions and one off issues

>ergo
Yep, people have different hands, sony never has catered for fatties and spade handed labourers in any of their products.

>customer service wahhhhh
You mean some people try and claim warranty repairs on mishandled goods and get upset when they can't have their cake and eat it? Just take the camera killing corrosion issue that was definitely gonna kill every sony camera? Still only that one example from the guy that lives on the beach as far as I can see on google, surely there should be a glut of white, crusty camera innards by now? And according to my local store, for any warranty repairs they send off they get a replacement refurb unit within a week, sorry you live in a 3rd world country tho.

>sony only paid me $10 for using their free services WAHHHHHHHHHHH

seriously bruh? Pathetic.

As I said, you got any actual argument against sony products?

>>3102401
I can post an example when I get home if you want, that's the joy of being on this side of the sony argument, we can backup our claims and give evidence.

>>3102415
>Attacks on a companies personality
Lol

>>3102459
Kill yourself moopco

>>3102355

50mm subtends a shitty, boring field of view my man

>>3102459
>Yep, people have different hands, sony never has catered for fatties and spade handed labourers in any of their products.
Unless you have crabhands or undying devotion to a soulless company, you will soon realize that sony doesnt make cameras, remote controls, controllers, etc. for human hands or human minds.
So many people comparing the A7 line to other camera lines list in their review that the menus are cumbersome and irritating and the button placement annoying.

>>sony only paid me $10 for using their free services
More like "sony paid me 10$ only usable on their store for leaking my credit card information TWICE despite knowing that vulnerabilities exist"

>As I said, you got any actual argument against sony products?
Yes, they're shit in any lateral aspect despite the absolute exactness of every pixel on a 42MP image, the company is shit and everytime they handle something important other than increasing their sales, they fuck it up.
A company has obligations to its customers, not its shareholders.

>>3102459
>"Lol, you attack the personality of a company, pathetic, you fat, ugly idiot"

Where you born this retarded or did you have to try hard?

>>3102459
>says "that's like your opinion, it's not true for everyone!"
>then goes on to say "And according to my local store"

Also, the shitty ergonomics and menu controls of Sony are well known
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXkjssgbVaY&t=7m45s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk19TuyKiXc&t=479s

>>3102459
>wall of text
>some of the replies completely miss the point of the original posts
>the "Sony side of the argument" appears to be incomprehensible.
Don't bother proving anything about your CA lad, you're the one who has to use it. Whinnies, maybe you have the one example of this lens that isn't a highlight rainbow vomit fest.

Ahahahahaha

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>>3101681
Why are all those lenses so huge?

>>3102474
>OP specifically makes a point about 50mm lenses and asks for a reasony why people shouldn't buy Sony
>replies make tons of points why one shouldn't buy Sony
>OPtard sits on his tiny 50mm-island and ignores the rest of the world

Noone needs to prove the 50mm argument wrong, because it from the beginning wasn't the only part of the discussion.

>>3102476
Cuz they can autofocus

>all this dancing around the "our 50mm are the best evar, you all lose!"

You know what, I don't even care about CA or anything. Let's say that the Lenses Sony has really have the fewest CA in the world and the history of forever.
Nobody cares. People just use anti-CA tools in post anyway.
30 years ago, when there was no way to PostProcess, one could have made a valid point about the exact, miniscule advantage of Sony-Lenses, but we live in and age of sufficiency. A camera isn't about PixelPeeping. It's about creating pleasing images. and nobody fucking cares about a tiny band of blue and red that they cant see and wouldn't notice anyway
Meanwhile, Canon made a 120MP APS-C sensor for superlarge prints (made by their printers)
Sony is busy selling to nerds that wank on datasheets because the exact numbers of their system of choice is just a tiny bit higher

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>>3102479
kek

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>>3102481
Sony shooter here, I have a Zeiss 85mm 1.4 that fringes (thankfully nowhere near as bad as my Rokinon) and I'm shooting on the A99ii. Many times, CA has interfered with a lo-ap photo and automatic removal in programs like Lightroom can mean that borders on similar-colored objects can end up compromised.

If you think that CA doesn't affect photos, I've noticed a lot of photos I've exported where the fringing around high contrast edges like my girlfriend's hair created a purple halo effect. Even after correction, the region that once contained color now ends up like a "ghost" fringe that doesn't contain the purple or green hues, but still compromises fine detail.

I'd gladly pay for all the features this lens brought to me, without the CA at 1.4-2.2, where I like using this lens most.

Pixel peeping is no different than a chef insisting he samples each ingredient in his dish. Not a necessary step because "garlic is garlic" but some of us like to work on pixel-level. Don't become obsessed with it, but understand the necessity to start with the best.

Ever since I've gone to 42mp I can't go back. The cropping ability and sharpness is just too good.

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>>3102470
>can't put iso/wb on a dedicated button/dial on sony

Yes you can, it even has a dial dedicated to iso as standard.

>you can set it to a custom button, but then you're down a button

Yes, because all 9 are custom buttons, proprietary buttons are dumb as shit.

This is what tony talked about in a recent video, anyone nay saying the sony is usually doing it off false information or jumping to ridiculous conclusions.

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>>3102516
>"Toggle AF/MF" set to AEL button under thumb on grip
Comfiest thing on the planet.

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>>3102483
>what is flange distance

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This is the best 50mm I've used in a while

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>>3102483
heavier and wider than the sony 55mm 1.8, also it's t value is 1.7, on a 1.4 lens, sonys' t value is 1.8, on a 1.8 lens. It also resolves about half as much fine detail.

Canon also has nearly a stop worse vignetting

Oh, and it focuses faster and more accurately on an a9 than a 1dx ii.

kek indeed.

>>3102520
how

its worse than the nFD copy in almost every single regard

>>3102524
Ergonomically speaking is great, the fact that the aperture ring is on the edge is very helpful, also, it has great bokeh being a f1.4 is not the sharpest lens, but it works great.

>>3102524
with old lenses sample variation is a lot more important than reputation.

>>3102483
Plz the 1.8 version is so much better and cheaper

>>3102479
>>3102479
Just set it to f8 and the focus to like 9 feet to infinity

>>3102565

Hyperfocal distance is 34 feet for 50mm at f/8. Another reason it's a shit focal length.

>>3102570
kek, I only zone focus with my 35 mm

>>3102533
This looks like it was shot on fuji

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>>3102392

>>3102533
Tell me about Jason. Why does he abuse the HDR?

>>3102483

>posting a lens with an optical formula dating back to the 1970s

top fucking kek

test

>>3102963
Ahahahaha.

BTFO.

>>3102520
>Not the 1.4 SSC

I shoot Sony and Canon.

I took my a7ii with two batteries to Shanghai and Taipei. It rained non stop for 3 days in Taipei and my camera got wet like crazy. I had no problems.

If you primarily shoot video yes the battery will drain fast and if you buy shit 3rd party batteries the battery will drain fast.

the ergonomics is great. If i put a 35 2.8 zeiss I can literally carry my camera all day without a strap or wrist strap no probs.

I prefer to shoot Sony a7ii over my 6D all day. My photos

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>>3102392
>I literally can not force out ca on my copy

I can on mine. I still love it, though.

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>>3103041

>$800 nifty fifty
>performs about as poorly as a $100 canikon lens, if not worse

You poor cux.

>>3103032
>I can literally carry my camera all day without a strap or wrist strap no probs

Pussy. I routinely carry a gripped dslr all day without a strap or wrist strap no probs

>>3102963
>comparing 21mp to 42mp

Lmfao

>>3103041
Your copy looks trash bro, take it back to sony.

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>>3103074

>>3103074
See the "blur unit" on the side? The sharpness tests are equalized to the specific camera resolution thus negating the effect of variation in mpx count, making comparisons possible. Sonytard.

I'm not saying the 55/1.8 sony is a bad lens, it's just not really all that special. Definitely not some otus killer like sonytards make it out to be, and way overpriced for what it is.

>>3103031
I also have that one

>>3102517
I also do this

>>3103047
Sure, bro.

>No other 50mm or 50mm f/1.8 lens has anywhere near the optical technology of this lens. It is significantly sharper wide-open than anything from Canon or Nikon.

>>3103074
>bad copy

I doubt it. The 55/1.8 is known to have significant CA and besides that issue it is the sharpest lens I've ever used.

>While sharper wide-open and having great bokeh, this lens has worse spherochromatism and flare than the other lenses.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/sony/zeiss/55mm-f18.htm

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I like my nifty fifties, but I prefer 35mm over 50mm... I find it much more versatile, even on fool frame.

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>>3104249

Go 40mm.

40mm best mm.

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>>3103809

It also appears to have significantly more chromabs. Is it $700 sharper? How is it stopped down?