Ugliest Camera

The one you have with you.

>>3097504
All the Nikon

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I found one of these ugly things while cleaning out my grandparent's basement. It's no wonder the American camera industry never took off.

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>>3097504
C'mon now, Werras are pretty cute. The later ones with rounded corners even look really nice I think.

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>>3097570
kek

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just... why...

Anything inside a smartphone

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>>3097537
I have a nikon f3 and it is pretty nice looking desu.

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still want one

>>3097504
I think it's kinda stylin

>>3097509
holy shit, /p/ made made me laugh

>>3097771
>gigantic top-lcd at bottom-mid
what the heck?

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Can't stand that fake RF aesthetic

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It's fucking huge, too

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>>3097817
ill end your fucking life, buddy.

>>3097800
that slope is the tackiest and most mongoloid design decision ever.

>>3097817
This is camera art. Don't call it ugly.

>>3097824
Ugly as piss.

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selenium meters were a mistake.

>>3097504
but it has a tessar. id call it ugly hot, or ugly interesting.

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I still kinda want one, though

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This clusterfuck gets my vote.

>>3097800

Fakr RF/Fake retro is disgusting.

At least the a6k series, while still hideos compared to the a7 series, modernizes itself.

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>>3097854
Bow to your master

There's a lens that I want to buy but my already whatever aesthetic camera will go full uggo if I grab it, however it'll work great for what I want to do.

Conflicting shit.

[nospoilersonp]28mm f/2.8 AI on my D7200[/nospoilersonp]

>>3097817
/thread

>>3097835
fight me u lil bitch

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It's like the SEGA Genesis of SLRs.

>>3097817
Don't bully her, she's just.. Different ..

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>>3097816
>>3097569
Leica has made some pretty rangefinders in its time, but on the whole they make a bunch of fucking ugly cameras.

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>>3098922
Whatever design sense they once had is long gone.

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>>3098941
>finally make a digital Leica M that is as thin as the film ones
>ruin that perfect straight lined design with a grip for casuals

>>3098948
The grip's not the problem, for me. It solves the difficulty of maneuvering the camera with your right hand after they removed the film advance lever.

To me, the clean lines on the recent bodies (M and non-M) are too clean, too sterile. They make the cameras look like concept renders, or like plastic mock-ups.

>>3098846
shit looks dorky as fuck.

>>3098948
>>3098941
What's even the point in digital Leicas? I get the love for the film ones but why does anyone buy digital?

>>3099254
It's the only true digital rangefinder, since the Epson RD-1 was discontinued. The lenses are stellar.

That, and it has appeal as a lifestyle brand and neck candy.

>>3099267
What's the point in digital rangefinders when mirrorless exists though?

>>3099280
literally nothing

>>3099267
>neck candy.
what a gay thing to say.

>>3099280
It's arguable that an optical rangefinder is still more accurate than focus peaking. But it has its own drawbacks.

>>3099321
>It's arguable that an optical rangefinder is still more accurate than focus peaking.
- /p/, 21st June 2017 A.D.

>>3099336
Care to debate that statement with more than a shitpost? Do you have personal experience with both, or are you just being an ass?

>>3099346
No I'll let you figure out why you're daft on your own
Google a CLA and tell me when I need to calibrate my focus peaking

>>3097509
kek

>>3099461
The fact that old cameras need maintenance doesn't mean the mechanism is inherently less accurate.

Rangefinders can get knocked out of vertical alignment by sharp knocks, which is one of the limitations, as well as long minimum focal distance for most RF systems, and the inability to support zooms.

Focus peaking relies on contrast detection, and the amount of contrast in a scene is subjective to a camera and lens. Focus peaking doesn't work so well when a lens has low contrast wide open or in low-contrast scenes, and it's difficult to nail once you stop down past f/5.6 or so. When an optical rangefinder is on, it's on.

I say this as somebody who has both and uses both.

>>3099472
Focus peaking isn't less accurate than a rangefinder because it struggles in low contrast.
A) you can improve this performance by modifying your camera settings for deeper contrast
B) its a perception issue, a user issue, when peaking becomes "inaccurate"
It's not inaccurate, it's just becoming difficult for you to see.
Focus peaking on a low contrast lens is equivalent to a rangefinder with a very washed out patch.

I say this as somebody who uses both and probably takes more photos with each than you.

>its difficult to nail focus at 5.6
it's also pointless to care about "nailing focus" with deep dof. Learn to scale focus and quit making your life more difficult.
Real rangefinder users don't even use the rangefinder mechanism often. It's a meme. Rangefinders are for scale-focusing users or gearfags.

>>3099485
Sure, whip out your e-peen and jack off a bit.

>It's not inaccurate, it's just becoming difficult for you to see.

If there's not enough contrast for the focusing guide to function, then the focusing guide is nonfunctional in that situation, making its accuracy moot.

If your rangefinder patch is washed out, you shouldn't be using a 50-year-old-camera that hasn't had a CLA.

>Rangefinders are for scale-focusing users or gearfags.

I guess you don't take many portraits with yours.

>>3097504
This is one of the best looking cameras there is, in my opinion. Only exception I see is perhaps the minox 35gl.

>>3099510
Only literal retards shoot portraits on a rangefinder. Prove me wrong by posting your evocative rangefinder portraits

>>3099510
>I don't know how to increase contrast in camera and don't you dare talk down to me for it

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>>3099616
I don't like to post photos of people on /p/, but since I've already posted this one here, here you go. I wouldn't have been able to scale focus that. I happen to like taking portraits with rangefinders.

>>3099617
Because I'm not here just to be spiteful, I went to check out some of the jpeg settings in my camera that I've never bothered with. I found a detail setting that did indeed help give the peaking more to grab onto in low-contrast areas. So, thanks for the motivation.

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>>3097605
>tfw zoom af

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>>3097870
not even the ugliest zenit

>>3099280
As far as the final result is concerned, a good mirrorless camera will give better results in the absolute majority of cases.
But it's fun to use a rangefinder, just like it's fun to use manual lenses.

>>3099321
It's not arguable. Rangefinder is indirect, depends on precise mechanical calibration and is prone to parallax error, while peaking operates on the actual captured image at pixel level. However, if you've got some skill, rangefinder focusing can be *faster* than using peaking, and it does not fail completely when there's not enough edge contrast.

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>>3097504
by far, as well as one of the worst cameras ever made. don't waste your freaking money on this crap, ever.

>>3097799
totally agree

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Sigma plz

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bunch of casuals

>>3102102
don't you dare

>>3097799
It's a shame too. If it wasn't for the horrid design and terrible controls it would have been a decent camera.

>>3099280
It's designed for manual focus so in theory it should perform better in that regard. Some people also like seeing outside the frame and rangefinder focusing.

>>3102102
just about the ugliest thing I have ever seen

>>3097799
It looks so plasticky and shit. How can they fuck it up this badly?

>>3097800
it's not just about aesthetic though, it has a great optical viewfinder which is actually really useful for some types of photography, I use the optical viewfinder about 50% of the time and digital for portraits and close-ups.

>>3097856
>Fakr RF/Fake retro is disgusting.
so you want a camera that requires you to press several buttons to accomplish something, won't let you change iso, aperture and shutter speed when the camera is turned off, requires you to use menus, etc?
sounds like you just want a worse user experience, the fake retro is not just about "muh nostalgia" it actually makes photography more fun and convenient. It's also nice because I've had FAR fewer people stop or say something after shooting them with my fuji than with my old sony, in part because I think they see it as a film camera or not a serious camera but the IQ is much better than my a6300 due to fuji's superior apsc lenses.

>>3097821
it would be uglier without the slope. If the top was flat it might look fine but I like how the dials align with the top, It doesn't really look weird in person desu, it's comfy.

>>3099336
he's right

rangefinder focusing from my experience is far more accurate than focus peaking which always seems like a rough estimation and never as precise as just autofocusing, on any of the systems I've used.
In fact, good rangefinder cameras are the only type of cameras I prefer manual focus than autofocus.

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>No Omega 120 yet.

It's a complete clusterfuck.

>>3103456

>1円 has been deposited into your Fuji shill account.

>>3103485
Is this the camera that steals the soul of whoever you take a picture of?!

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>>3103485
Oi cunt u wot m8? I have a Koni Rapid M, it's fucking awesome.

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>>3103518
Lol, maybe to blind people
Because, you know
It hurts your hands to hold and operate

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>>3103485
Omega made some of the weirdest cameras.

>>3103518
samyang af 35 2.8
half the price.
smaller.

>>3097565
looks and even the name sounds like some australian mutant animal like a wombat

>>3103535
>>3103485
>>3101721
>>3097832
>>3097870
>>3097605
>>3097565
>>3097559
weird ass robot heads

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>>3103537
Shit Samyang has a 35 now?

>>3103537

Zeiss 35 is obly $550 here.

No reason to consider the Samyang. Especially with that atrocious CA.

>>3103535
It's as if they cobbled it together from old car parts.

>>3103535
A 6x7 TLR? I love this. Probably rare and pricy as fuck though.

>>3098952
I thought the removal of the advance lever was stupid.

They're willing to dump the screen because "muh minimalism," but use an electronically controlled shutter.

>>3102185
heil Hitler white boy!

>>3103773
Are you talking new or used here? Because god knows that the Samyang will still cost significantly less when used.

>>3104000

New.

>>3103515
I had one. I've always been a big Konica fan. The film advance is so fucking fun, but I'm not a rangefinder guy, so I gave it away to a buddy.

I wish Konica produced a medium format SLR. I'd ditch my RB in a second for that.

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>>3097870
>yfw

>>3104727
Good movie

>>3097504
That camera is actually quite beautiful

The ugliest cameras are those amorphous blobs you see often nowadays. They look like they just designed the electronics etc. and just dunked it in thick black shrink foil.

>>3097509
fpbp

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>>3107232
>The ugliest cameras are those amorphous blobs you see often nowadays

90's AF revolution suddenly turned everything into bulky ugly plastic and we're only now starting to recover. Canonikon's DSLR abominations are straight outta KMZ's design boards.

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>>3107274
The thing is that a lot of cameras post T90 are designed with ergonomics in mind. All of the later KMZ cameras are just curvy to be curvy, and still have SLR brick ergonomics from the 60s.
I mean yeah they're not pretty like Fujifilm or Leica cameras, but they're more tools than fashion pieces and they feel good in the hand.

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>>3097570
who needs a view finder they said
it will be great they said