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Pictures of 4channers at the big political rally in Portland yesterday

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Christ.
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>female
>/pol/
Confirmed for false flag psyop
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This isn't photojournalism. This is autism. You and your subjects.
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>>3089788
Look at all those Based Stickman wannabes.
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Who let these people out of their basement?
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>people paying to have meme t-shirts and flags made
>mugging for the camera with their pink mma gloves and le ebin wp hand gesture
>literally being cordoned off to contain their dangerous levels of autism
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>>3089788
>Fatties
When will they learn
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>>3089815
I'd ask the same of you, but you grew up in a single wide trailer and now pull them for a "living"
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>>3089810
>adult male who likes memes
I'm going to throw up
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>>3089827
the true face of /pol/
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Daaaamn. Wish I could've been there with my "JEWS DID 9/11" sign.
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Holy fuck I hate Americans
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>>3089786
Good job.
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no doubt why /pol/ is most criengy board of 4chan
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I can't even feel anger anymore.
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>>3089848
most americans hate these americans too
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Holy crap this is cringy.

Especially the guy with the meme shirt and flag. Jesus.
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>>3089799
w2c jeans?
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>>3089881
Doubtful, these Americans behave themselves unlike most leftists.
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>nu/pol/
>in any year

NOT
EVEN
O N C E
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Jesus I only visit /pol/ for comedic relief. Honestly if they were alive in NAZI Germany, they would fall under Hitler's degenerate prerequisites and be gassed.

Putting a face to them only makes me laugh at them more haha cheers OP
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>>3089971
nu/pol/ please go
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>>3089788
Literally a fat SJW with just the political slider flipped to the other end
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>>3089808
>>3089788
has memeing gone too far?
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>>3089815
hahah ironic coming from you fatty
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resize your images you fucking cunt
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>>3089801
This guy actually looks normal. Probably a decent person.
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>>3090071
>he fell for the horseshoe theory meme
m80... lole
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>>3090119
You're right. I'm far more likely to run into a /pol/tard venting his views online then a tumblr SJW landwhale. Like I'm watching a video about cute parrots playing with cups and scroll down to find half the comments to the video are /pol/ memes, conspiracy theories, and political trolling.
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Jesus Christ it's Chanology all over again.
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>>3090103
>kekistan autist
>normal, decent person
pick one
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>>3090155
it's worse in a way, at least they were railing against scientology instead of just pretending somebody wants to take away free speech so they can continue having public circlejerks
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any pictures of the side you're on?
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People replying on this thread are actually more cringeworthy than those people attendeding at this rally OP poorly photographed (really, these photos are trash and should've been deleted in camera).
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>>3090376
>>3090379
kekistanis detected
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>>3090383
any pictures of the side you're on?
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>>3089792
why does it cringe me so bad?
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>>3090387
meme magic as a lifestyle brand
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>>3090384
Looks like there's one here >>3090112
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>>3090376
>>3090379
>>3090384
>/pol/ slowly realizing what normal people think of them
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>>3090456
The pictures are shit, OP
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>enter thread for the snapshits
>realize this thread is a combination of snapshits, YLYL and cringe thread

holy shit OP, I applaud you.
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>>3090383
No, actually I'm a libtard. You're just a fuck scum who >implies

>>3090456
another
>implying
I should say 'go out and take pictures', but I guess it would be just a good waste of time and earth oxygen on your walk. just stay at home lurking your safe-based shitty threads
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>Not being a centrist and laughing at both sides
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>>3090574
your butt is hurt, /pol/
>>3090673
did you just find out about >implying or something?
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>>3091087
Literally every neutral fag is fiscally conservative and socially lib.

Left center fag here, fiscally pretty liberal (for the betterment and stability of society) and socially neutral (yay civil rights, fuck da pc police/people who don't respect cops)
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>>3090007
>how dare you call me out on my bullshit
>leave
Take your own advice
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>>3090574
what did you expect? they're photographs of /pol/
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>>3089992

yeah, the ones that support traps and other gay shit, like you
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>>3091333
fuck that was a shit comeback anon
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>>3089796
The look of pain in this womans face haunts me
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>>3089786
the technical quality of these images is shit, but the content is the most important and relevant on /p/ right now
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>>3089786
Not bad, but kinda frame wider and crop to the good bits perhaps?

>>3089816
That's what a good setting for taking photographs looks like.
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>>3089786
>>3089788
>>3089791
>>3089792
>>3089796
>>3089798
>>3089799
>>3089801
>>3089804
>>3089808
>>3089810
>>3090112
Didn't realize how much 4chan is infested with normies now. Only normies do this autistic shit.
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>>3091137
Very true, I laugh at alt right tards and SJWs equally
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>>3091087

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>>3091838
>Only normies do this autistic shit

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>>3091885
you must be the most autistic shit poster lurking /p/ atm

how come you be so fucking retarded? Do you have any master degree on it, or you just born this way?
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>>3092078
i also enjoyed that post
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>>3091838
I want you read aloud what you just typed, but slowly. Maybe, just maybe, we can figure out what went wrong there.
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>>3092505
Normal = Autistic

Non-autistic = FIRE

Seems easy.
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>>3089788
>>3089799
Take these to /fa/ and let them laugh
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>>3089801
>infidel t-shirt
Another person who probably doesn't even know what that word actually means.

This is like 4chan's version of Dashcon. Anyone who identifies with a website this much needs help.
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here are some more pics

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>spazz out about people mistreating the US flag
>break the US flag code by wearing it as clothing and on it without due cause
It's pretty amusing.
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>adult memers, fatties, and hypocrites
I expect nothing and I'm still disappointed.
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>>3092830
Jesus. We're reaching levels of embarrassment that shouldn't even be possible.
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>>3092830
>that token nig in the background
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what would win

A minorities majority with welfare from the gov and Antifa/liberal flags

or

>a fucking kek
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>>3092768
You obviously never saw the OG 2008 meetup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IqDF7YSCDE
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>>3093008
>i look at old 4chan shit on the internet

hello kym enduser
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>>3093008
fuck I remember that day. I came along and turn back home because I was ashamed as fuck for browsing 4chan. I remember I stoped visiting here for about a year
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I was at a rally here in oceanside (I was one of the organizers actually)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/newdimensionfilms/albums/72157682894257320
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>>3093359

To clarify, I was an organizer of the counter rally (in support of the muslim community).
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>>3093359
wtf is up with that sign, is that some kind of ironic misspelling of "lose"?
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>>3093360
a cuck is still a cuck, no matter which side of the LARPing festivities you align yourself with
You're not an activist, you're just an attention whore
(of course he'd be a tripfag too)
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>>3093364

It's not ironic, they're just idiots. Another sign misspelled "meant" (written as "ment").

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>>3093369

Oops forgot to resize.

>>3093367

That's nice.
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>>3093369
>xD look how uneducated the rabble are
What a typical capital D Democrat.
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>>3093374
Is it normal for adults to misspell words like "meant" and "lose" in America?
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>>3093390
It actually is.
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>>3093390
That's normal in every country. And this is why Liberals are losing votes. They mistake an uptake in democratic capabilities (internet) for an increased audience to their own form of class warfare, which aims to humiliate rather than educate the uneducated; who it turns out make up vast swathes of the population.

Conservatives aren't as quick to insult, which means they're better at working the middle.

You could learn a thing or two from people that can't spell portmanteau.
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>>3093408
>portmanteau

Take it easy with the big words there, fancy-pants. I'm talking about everyday words that everyone should know, words like "meant" and "lose." There's no way that the literacy levels in America are so poor that an average adult cannot be expected to spell those words correctly.
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>>3093408
one of the best parts of the election was all the conservatives who started opening up about how us liberal meanies hurt their feelings so many times with our evil elitist mocking of their spelling of the word lose
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>>3093421
Behind the part where your reason for caring is that you lost, of course.
I'm not a conservative, I just don't like cocky pseudointellectuals that mistake spelling and semantics for higher knowledge.

Your choice to identify yourself as a liberal does plenty for popping that balloon on its own. What an intellectual powerhouse.
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>>3093374

I don't vote for democrats. Hillary Clinton had slaves
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Btw, I don't think being bad at spelling makes you dumb (I'm bad at spelling), but these people ARE dumb, and it's especially funny because they're also had signs that said "speak our language."
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>>3093451

Ah see I made a mistake right there. Happens all the time (usually not on a big ass sign though...).
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>>3091137
You only care about civil rights when it's not for whites.

Non-whites don't care for civil rights at all.
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>>3093371
You "treating Muslims nicely" will not get you any brownie points later on.

You are a prime target for forced steroidization.
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>>3093463
>>>/pol/
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>>3093431
>you lost
im canadian lol
>>3093431
>mistake spelling and semantics for higher knowledge
who said anything about higher knowledge? people spelling lose as "loose" doesn't make me a genius, it makes them dumbasses who can't spell at a grade school level lol
>Your choice to identify yourself as a liberal does plenty for popping that balloon on its own. What an intellectual powerhouse.
you really shouldn't be talking about knowledge and intellect when your political stances are along the lines of "ALL LIBRULS R STOOPID" lol
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>>3092093
I learnt on the job
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>>3091885

socially liberal, fiscally conservative is just codeword for I hate niggers and poor people but boy do I like smoking weed
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>>3093520
>lol, lol, lol
lol, kill yourself you dullard
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Literally everything about this thread is gay as fuck

Including you faggots thinking you're better than the autists from /pol/
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>>3093681
>can't do anything but point out the fact that i said lol
lol
>>3093684
>IT'S JUST AS BAD TO MAEK FUN OF /POL/ AS IT IS TO GO FULL AUTIST AND WAVE MEMEFLAGS AT PROTESTS
yeah, no
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>>3093360
>I want western society to turn into a crime ridden swedish slum to prove to the world how not racist I am

Kill yourself
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>>3093782
>I view all immigration as a threat to my fragile sense of self
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>>3093788
You've never actually been to Sweden, have you?
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>>3093782
>I protest "sharia law" even though nobody is trying to enact it in my country
definitely not an excuse to just hold anti-muslim rallies, you sure fooled everyone
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>>3093636
>we can only have balanced finances if we hate niggers

what are you trying to say anon?
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>>3093367
>>3093782
Remove yourself, nerds.
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>>3093788
Different anon but I'm a third gen and I believe that if you come to this country and make no attempt to assimilate you shouldn't be here. Granted we already do a damn fine job of that for the most part.
>>3093794
Not yet they're not.
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>>3089802
>Stickman wannabes
No, they just want to protect themselves from being harmed.

The leftist facists have deemed them to be evil people, and have justified physical violence against them.

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>>3094119
>leftist
>fascist

How's that bubble, anon?
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>>3094120
Let me give you an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJwWYsAk1I8

They want Academic freedom to bow to their rules, and their justice.
They are offended by some of the stuff that has been researched, and want those publications banned.
Leftism these days is nothing but anti science facists.
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>>3094124
Not going to ruin my recommendations with your kekistani links, but thanks anyway.
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>>3094125
>caring about recommendations
hooktube.com/watch?v=yJwWYsAk1I8

Sometimes you have to see how crazy your own side is, or you will just be swallowed up by them, before you even notice it.
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>>3094120
Here's my take. Many of the SJWs active today wish to heavily restrict any sort of speech/activity that goes against their agenda, an agenda that for the most part is extremely disorganized and slightly dangerous. Didn't really believe in the SJW stereotypes until I began encountering them at uni and when they began to take over certain campus organizations. These people are usually rather devoid of common sense and seem to have a tenuous grasp of reality. You could very much argue that the same is true of the alt-right and you'd be mostly correct. I will admit sharing /pol/s virulent hatred of antifa/sjws, however I don't partake in that board for a few reasons (they don't take very kindly to non-whites).

The fascist=leftist analogy was put forward by that anon because today many on the extreme left are resorting to violence, coercion, and the spreading of hate speech (quite ironically) to advance their nonsensical goals. Their arguments are weak, and arguments with them in person usually resort to personal insults rather quickly. Many that I've encountered are usually upper-middle class/sheltered uni students who have little real world experience. They're very loosely organized and have no coherent message/leadership besides a few slogans. What they lack in planning they make up for with a rather unbridled fanatic will to shame/slander/bully anyone that does not agree with them. Most dangerous of all, these people are trying to get into leadership positions to cement their ideology into law. Based upon all of this, one can come to the rough conclusion that in the modern day many on the extreme left can be considered to have semi-fascist tendencies.

Before you accuse me of being some kind of /pol/ack, I didn't vote for Trump and I would've preferred the election come down to Kasich and Webb even if that was never going to happen.
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>>3094140
A person who uses violence to oppose other viewpoints isn't immediately a fascist, no more than Trump is literally Hitler. (He's not a fascist, either.) Fascism is a specific ideology. Antifa are violent, but to call them fascist is a dodge to distract from the ideology of groups Antifa oppose. And to call anti-racist/anti-fascist anarchist groups fascist is just plain silly.

I don't have any interest in discussing some vast SJW/Antifa conspiracy.
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>>3094154
Was more talking about similarity in tactics, though I will say that street thuggery from either the left or the right is the same.
>Anti-racist/anti-fascist
The former claims to be anti-racist, yet apparently has no qualms about putting white people down at every opportunity and (much more important to me) will not hesitate to call non-whites who do not support their agenda race-traitors/uncle toms. The latter action particularly pisses me off because that is in direct contradiction of the idea that most of these groups push as a "more tolerant and free" society. The Anti-fascists claim to only have beef with fascists, yet routinely label anyone to the right of center (and even some on the left who do not toe the line) to be "fascist". This to me is a dangerous generality. Granted you could easily utilize the same argument when saying that many on the right think that anyone on the left is a "commie" or a socialist, or more often than not confuse the terms.
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>>3094154
>to call anarchist groups fascist is just plain silly
Let's do the checkmark list for your friends.
>characterized by dictatorial power,
>Check. They are anti democratic when democracy isn't going their way, and wants their opposition overthrown.
>forcible suppression of opposition,
Check. They even resort to deadly force against the trump supporter.
>and control of industry and commerce
Check. They wish control of the universities, they wish control over academic freedom, they wish control over various publishing industries like comics and video games.
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>>3094160
read more than the summary next time, junior.
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>>3094140
>they don't take very kindly to non-whites
That's kind of naive to put it that way.
It isn't always true, example: http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/113869826/

Anyway, that's too simple to put a very complex matter.
They don't hate you has an individual.
They respect coloured people who have their brains in order.
They're just very vary of certain communities. For example Baltimore and Detroit have a certain non-white demographics, and the violence and murders per capita in those two cities are in the top 50 of the world's most murderous cities, legitimately on par with African cities and South American cities.
There is no excuse for that in America where you are more likely to go overweight than go hungry.
And every time they point out things like this, the left call them racist. Just don't buy into all of it.
Some of it is just regular 4chan trolling, some of it is real. It's complex.

>>3094166
The checkmarks fit all your facist friends. They have become the beast they hate.
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>>3094156
>The former claims to be anti-racist
The internet had a lot of fun with this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZCVHB68cuY

>I oppose voter-id laws because those laws are racist
>blacks are too stupid to navigate the internet, so this racist law discriminate them
>These racist laws restrict blacks who are too stupid to find the DMV
These college kids just cannot see the racism coming from their own mouths.

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>>3094167
>race realism
>blaming large groups of people for not bootstrapping themselves en masse out of the socioeconomic hellpit they were born into

wew lads
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>>3094203
>socioeconomic hellpit
So far none of them have died of hunger.
They all have houses. Lots of abandoned houses. So they are clearly not suffering from being homeless.

Can you enlighten me as to why they must kill and murder as much as they do?
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>>3094206
sophistry. baltimore and detroit have some of the highest rates of poverty in US cities. you can have food to eat and a place to live and still be poor as shit, with a miserable life and either no opportunities to better yourself or insufficient education to take advantage of them. when you're born into a dirt poor environment, you have very little chance of getting out of it. when you're stuck being poor as shit, desperation sets in and the drug trade as a way of life becomes more appealing, and the drug trade involves violence. people who aren't in the drug trade in those cities aren't the ones being murdered.

but go ahead, talk some more about personal responsibility.
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>>3094211
>baltimore and detroit have some of the highest rates of poverty in US cities
One could argue they are spoiled compared to poor people in China, and poo people in Eastern Europe.

Why is it you don't see the Chinese cities in poverty murder as much as those people in Baltimore, Detroit, Cape Town, Acapulco?

What about the Eastern Europeans? They are much poorer than any American slum. How can you explain this difference?

>desperation sets in and the drug trade as a way of life
Since you put this as the definitive answer, it must be common knowledge then? Why don't they stay away from that which can get them murdered, or turn them into murderers?
Are you saying those people are more stupid and incapaple of connecting the dots like you?
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Why should we give a fuck about who's browsing this website, what they look, which clothes they wear ?
What matters is what they say. If they are retards, just ignore them.
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>>3094269
because their superiority complex is contrary to their own behavior and degeneracy and that is comical
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Autism Speaks.

Are they all wearing helmets to protect their softspots or what?
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>>3094216
>Are you saying those people are more stupid and incapaple of connecting the dots like you?
lol what a shit attempt to turn this issue into that stupid voter id video that got posted earlier. they don't get into the drug trade because they view it as risk free and totally awesome, it's out of desperation
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>>3094290
The political left are using violence on everybody who disagrees with them.
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>>3089788
this explains the decay of pol
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>>3089971
most americans are not really americans anymore
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>>3094396
>they don't get into the drug trade because they view it as risk free and totally awesome, it's out of desperation
I don't understand this argument.
You have a house, you have food on the table, you have TV, you have internet, you have your family. Why would to get desperate to the point you will murder someone?
Can't you at least make your argument more clear?

Your characterization of these people in Baltimore and Detroit seems to be rather negative. Are you by chance looking down on them?

And by the way, why are you ignoring there are people in poorer communities in Eastern Europe and China who doesn't turn their cities into murder capitals of the world?
You could argue they are even more desperate.
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>>3094411
>You have a house, you have food on the table, you have TV, you have internet, you have your family
no, you don't necessarily have that combination of things if you are poor enough. also, do your own research if you wanna find out why the drug trade is bigger in some places than others.
>Your characterization of these people in Baltimore and Detroit seems to be rather negative. Are you by chance looking down on them?
lol still trying this?
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>>3094416
>98.9% of American homes have TV
>no, you don't necessarily have that combination of things if you are poor enough
?? https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/business/media/03television.html
Only the Amish people don't have TV.

They can all get any house, because those cities are full of abandoned houses.
There is food stamps all over the place, because they always elect democrat mayors who can never fix the problems.

And yet according to you, they become desperate for some strange reason, and get into conflicts that turns them into merciless murderers.
And you seem to imply none of it is their fault.

Do you actually believe the things you write?
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>>3094431
>They can all get any house, because those cities are full of abandoned houses.
yup, no poor people struggle with any kind of housing issues because... abandoned houses exist? fucking christ it's starting to seem like you're doing some kind of stealth-parody of conservatives who don't understand poverty
>There is food stamps all over the place, because they always elect democrat mayors who can never fix the problems.
lol and the same shit over here, all poor people are now well fed and not malnourished in any way because "food stamps" and "democratic mayors"
>And yet according to you, they become desperate for some strange reason, and get into conflicts that turns them into merciless murderers.
yeah it's almost as if there's a whole shitload of complex factors that go into it and your fucking simpleton-ass view of things isn't taking that into proper consideration or something
>And you seem to imply none of it is their fault.
i know you all like to pretend liberals don't believe in personal accountability but if you really think every single person regardless of their financial standing has the same opportunities or face all the same pitfalls in life you're literally retarded
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>>3094431
You have no concept of what it means or feels like to be poor, or of the toll it can take on somebody's physical and mental well-being. Poverty isn't instantly solved when you own possessions A+B+C.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty#Definitions

Read more. I'm not gonna do your research for you.
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>>3094439
>malnourished
That seems to be an obesity problem. You imply they get desperate enough to murder because they are fat?
I don't buy that explanation.

>no poor people struggle with any kind of housing issues because... abandoned houses exist?
Sounds like it. The people you talk about seem to have roofs over their head.
Look at the Amish people, they don't go on murder sprees because the government isn't giving them free housing. They just build their own house.
So housing clearly isn't an issue.

>yeah it's almost as if there's a whole shitload of complex factors that go into it
You're making it complex to the point you are unable to give any reasonable explanation.

>>3094444
And you can't answer why the poverty stricken cities in Eastern Europe aren't murder capitals of the world.
Why is Detroit a murder capital, and other cities in China and Eastern Europe not?
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>>3094445
>I don't buy that explanation.
that's because it's your dumbass misinterpretation of what i said
>>3094445
>They just build their own house.
>So housing clearly isn't an issue.
you are just trolling, there's no way you can actually be this stupid
>You're making it complex to the point you are unable to give any reasonable explanation.
lol i didnt make it anything, it is what it is and you're apparently too stupid to find out about it
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>>3094450
>misinterpretation
When you are malnutritioned, you're either a skeleton who lacks food and is about to die of hunger, or you are an obese landwhale.
America obviously do not suffer from the former. Nobody in Detroit has died from hunger yet.
So there is only the latter.

>you are just trolling
I'm dead serious. You are implying people get desperate and murder others because of housing problems.

But this argument doesn't make any sense. Because there are other countries that are worse off, and they don't have murder capitals of the world.
And there are other communities like the Amish who don't get your housing programs or your food stamp programs, and they don't turn into murderers.

And you have 0 explanation why.
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>>3094454
>When you are malnutritioned, you're either a skeleton who lacks food and is about to die of hunger, or you are an obese landwhale.
no, that's wrong and stupid, like most of the things you say
>You are implying people get desperate and murder others because of housing problems.
no moron, that's you and your constant need to try and sum up complex issues in a single (moronic) sentence. i said housing issues are one of the many challenges people face when living in poverty.
>there are other countries that are worse off, and they don't have murder capitals of the world.
yeah it's almost as if america has way more guns and drugs than any of those places
>And there are other communities like the Amish who don't get your housing programs or your food stamp programs, and they don't turn into murderers.
because they live a self sustaining rural existence that is extremely religiously principled. you think poor people born in the inner cities can just buy land in the country start up a fucking farm at the drop of a hat?
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>>3094462
>no, that's wrong
So what did you mean by malnutrition?
Do they just buy the wrong kind of food with their food stamps, and somehow end up murdering someone?

>i said housing issues are one of the many challenges people face when living in poverty.
And yet, by your own admission, poverty doesn't seem to mean shit. Because plenty other countries have poor people who are actually starving, but they don't turn their communities into murder capitals.

>yeah it's almost as if america has way more guns and drugs than any of those places
So you blame it on guns and drugs?
Peach Springs in America has 36% poverty. the same access the guns and drugs. Why don't those people over there murder and murder like the people in St. Louis, Detroit, and Baltimore?

>can just buy land in the country start up a fucking farm at the drop of a hat?
What's stopping them from joining other communities like the Amish and assimilating into their way of life?
Anything must be better than going around and killing people.
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>>3094445
It's almost as if you started from a preconceived notion about who commits crime in American cities and why, and you discard out of hand any arguments that contradict that idea. Or you're trolling. Either way, you're wasting everybody else's time.

>eastern europe
Lower population density, poverty distributed throughout rural areas, stricter gun laws in some cases, much lower availability of guns.
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>>3094478
Wrong. Europe in general is far more densely populated.
As is China.

Eastern Europe have free access to firearms, that's actually not even a problem. And yet they don't murder anywhere near as much as Cape Town and Detroit.
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>>3094479
Oh! Oh! You've convinced me! It's the negroes!

You consistently gloss over the arguments people are making and you simplify the situation to fit the concepts you have in your head. You don't read and you cherry-pick information to suit your narrative.

Fuck off. This discussion is going nowhere and you're a racist piece of shit.
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>>3094487
>You consistently gloss over the arguments people are making
How am I supposed to believe you when you didn't come up with anything besides nonsens that is easily debunked.

If you actually have the slightest interest in solving the issue, it starts from properly identifying the problem.

>you're such a racist for pointing out crime capitals murder a lot of people
This accusation doesn't solve anything. That's just you throwing the towel in the ring.
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>>3094492
You have no interest in identifying the problem. You think you know what the problem is already, because Rush Limbaugh or David Duke told you so, and you form your arguments to support that predetermined conclusion. I could sit here all day listing links and statistics here, but you'd ignore them all because you're convinced that black people are responsible for their own misery.

You're a waste of time.
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>>3094512
>You have no interest in identifying the problem. You think you know what the problem is already
Isn't that why I an engaging in an open dialogue with you, and giving you every opportunity to convince me?

I haven't said anything that even suggest I know what the problem is. All I have done is take down the excuses you put up.
And you're angry because of arguments that pick apart all of the excuses you are making.
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>>3094516
More sophistry. I've wasted enough time on you.
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>>3094521
It's because you have nothing left. You threaten with all sorts of links and statistics but you know they are worthless in the face of real government statistics.

You're simply unable to argue, unable to explain the uncomfortable questions like why this and that race use so much more welfare and murder so much more than Asians and Europeans.
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>>3094521
Friendo, another anon here. You're the one that's engaging in sophistry. The other anon is at least trying to bring facts to the table. You're just being "you're evil, [looks to audience] and dumb, amirite?"
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>>3091885
>homeless
In Denmark we give them free money for just existing, more than enough money for housing.

But throwing money at the problem solves nothing.
We still have homeless people. Why is that?
Perhaps we are not big enough communists?
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>>3093421
>us liberal meanies hurt their feelings so many times with our evil elitist mocking
To be fair, this pretty much is what your liberal friends do.

They openly mock blacks with all sorts of prejudice like "blacks are too ignorant to navigate the internet", or "blacks are too poor to pay enough money to internet service providers".
>>3094172
Those types of videos are making the rounds over the internet, one of the mirrors have 1,6 million views.
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>>3094476
>Do they just buy the wrong kind of food with their food stamps
see how fucking uneducated you are on the subject? in case you didnt get the memo that the rest of society got fucking years ago, yes, poor people buy lots of cheap processed food, >and somehow end up murdering someone?
like it's been stated multiple times already, murder is usually associated with the drug trade, which you can find out about the connection between that and poverty if you have any fucking interest in researching these subjects instead of just jerking yourself off about them
>Peach Springs in America has 36% poverty. the same access the guns and drugs. Why don't those people over there murder and murder like the people in St. Louis, Detroit, and Baltimore?
because there's not a 100% correlation between amount of poverty and amount of murders where each city's murder rate is determined by it's average income? do you literally just shut your brain off after the first sentence of every explanation of an issue?
>What's stopping them from joining other communities like the Amish and assimilating into their way of life?
gee whiz, moron, i have no clue. they should just take the money they don't have and buy land out in the country and take up farming practices that their families haven't been pursuing for generations like the amish.
>Anything must be better than going around and killing people.
and yet the problem persists... almost as if it is complex and multi-faceted and you're a huge dumbass making no real effort to understand it
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>>3094641
>because there's not a 100% correlation between amount of poverty and amount of murders where each city's murder rate is determined by it's average income? do you literally just shut your brain off after the first sentence of every explanation of an issue?
It's like poverty and drugs isn't a reliable indicator of the presence of murder...I wonder what is though?
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>>3094641
>poor people buy lots of cheap processed food
What does this have to do with the topic of murder rates?
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>>3094646
>anime response
Thanks for reminding me where this discussion is taking place and who I'm talking to.
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>>3094656
>They have such poverty!
>They eat processed food!
>They are desperate to get drugs!
>It's not their fault they murder someone, it's the oppressive system!
You need to stop treating black people as if they are babies.
They are increasingly seeing through your bullshit, by the millions as your liberal friend keep screwing up.
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>>3094666
>be a dumbfuck
>misinterpret everything that gets said to you on account of not being intelligent enough to actually process it
"WHY DO PEEPL KEEP PRESENTING ME WITH FLAWED ARGUMENTS???"
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>>3094670
There is no misinterpretation. You are putting your hand over murderers as if they are children who never knew better, and put the blame onto everything else.
You blame guns, you blame drugs, you blame processed food, you blame Barack Obama and his system, you blame everything but the perpetrators themselves.
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>>3094666
>actually framing an argument about muh personal responsibility as libtards being the REAL racists
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>>3094676
It is pretty much arrogant and racist to paint all blacks in Detroit and Baltimore as irresponsible children who don't really know what they are going.
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>>3094677
That's a hell of a strawman you just knocked over there. You're the one trying to convince everybody that there's a causative relationship between race and murder. I'm trying to explain why cities like those have a nasty cocktail of socioeconomic factors that lead to the amount of violence they have.

But go on, tell us about how people choose a life of drug crime willingly. Tell us about how people prefer to stay in poor urban areas when they could move out to live with the Amish any time. Tell us about how poor mothers just don't care about choosing better schools for their children. Tell us about how the urban poor prefer to sit on their porches instead of getting STEM jobs. Provide quotes, if you could.
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>>3094672
>>3094666
lol already clocked this bullshit coming a mile away >>3094439
>i know you all like to pretend liberals don't believe in personal accountability but if you really think every single person regardless of their financial standing has the same opportunities or face all the same pitfalls in life you're literally retarded
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>>3094690
>relationship between race and murder.
There we go, 15 hours into the conversation and the liberal is finally willing to be open minded.
Have you ever heard of the Marshmallow test?
http://www.grad.umn.edu/sites/grad.umn.edu/files/experimental_study_in_psycholo_0.pdf
It shows there exist fundamental differences in behavior of the subject, which is heavily tied to biology and race.

African children are more likely to eat the marshmallow right away, instead of delaying the gratification and receive twice the marshmallow.
Asian children are more likely to do the smart thing and wait until they get two marshmallows.

Think of the one marshmallow as the drugs, as the easy way out.
Think of the two marshmallow reward as the option to struggle in school and working towards a better life through honest means.
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>>3094722
Ah, now you've gone full race realist. Thanks for showing your true colors.
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>>3094730
>showing your true colors
You mean by referencing to a scientific study from a university?

Do you object to the study's methodologies? Or do you object to the existence of these studies?

If the latter, thank YOU for showing YOUR true colors. As everybody can see, liberals hate science.
I called this all the way back here>>3094124
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>>3094167
Thomas Sowell is cool. He started out as an ardent commie, and has done a 180 as he aged. Since this is p/ I will not comment on the arguments here.
But I will say this Sowell is a gear whore, and now shoots exclusively digital. Much like many of we old bastards. He uses Nikon if you are curious.
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>>3094733
Do you really think you can extrapolate from an analysis of a single study in rural Trinidad with a sample size of 53 to draw a comparison between ethnic groups on a global scale?

Did you even read about the details and conclusions of the study, or do you pass around that image as some kind of holy truth about the negro?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment

>Absence of the father was prevalent in the African-descent group (occurring only once in the East Indian group), and this variable showed the strongest link to delay of gratification, with children from intact families showing superior ability to delay.

You're only pro-science when you can cherry-pick research to suit your conclusions.
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>>3094706
>every single person regardless of their financial standing has the same opportunities or face all the same pitfalls in life
Did you know, in Scandinavian countries like Denmark, the government bend their head and twist their back in the most painful way to service the immigrants from Arab and African countries.

They do everything they can to give the children equal opportunities and be inclusive, in ways only a true socialist country can be.
They give the minority children more attention, give their parents extra money, changing their laws to make sure their parents are never going poor, even if they have no jobs.
Money, schooling, housing, everything is provided in this socialist paradise.

And yet these children from Arab/African countries grow up to be criminals.
6 times more criminal than their peers from India and China.
Why is what?

Even though this Socialist paradise attempted to give them everything, it still wasn't enough.

Perhaps one day you will wake up and realise you had the wrong diagnosis to the problem.
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>>3094743
No, I agree fully with the study. A good nuclear family helps a great deal.
You know... the same nuclear family the liberals have tried to destroy.

But there is also a biological component there which you must not ignore.
Don't point the finger on me, I'm all for science.
It's your liberal friends who wants to ban science they disagree with.
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>>3094748
>you must not ignore

Weasel words. Not scientifically significant.

>the same nuclear family the liberals have tried to destroy

Post sources.
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>>3094750
Says the guy who hasn't cited anything.
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>>3094744
The Balkans, Turkey, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and Iran are not Arab or African countries. Nor are they all Muslim countries, or Pashtun, or Slavic, or Turk. It's almost as if there are more complex factors at work here.

Citizens born in Denmark are three times more likely to be involved in crime than those visiting from the USA. Why is that?
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>>3094755
>A giant hunk of the Ottoman Empire
>not Arabic
Goddamn guy...

>Citizens born in Denmark are three times more likely to be involved in crime than those visiting from the USA. Why is that?
Tourists, on the whole, tend to not be criminals, just like black people on the whole tend to be criminals.

Protip: you can't allow or disallow interpretations of data based on how you feel.
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>>3094755
>Citizens born in Denmark are three times more likely to be involved in crime than those visiting from the USA.
Because White American are extremely good at assimilating into Danish culture and respect the new socialist paradise they have come to. They have a gratitude to the new host country which is very similar to the Chinese and Indians.

>Turkey, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iran are not Muslim countries
Lol.
>It's almost as if there are more complex factors at work here.
Religious identity. The muslim children gang up in school with other muslim children and become bad influences on each other.
After they drop out of school as illiterates, they make crime gangs together.

One of the gangs we have in Denmark is called "loyal to familia" pretty much consist of muslim losers who dropped out of school and make money on drugs.
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>>3094757
>suddenly talking about the Ottoman empire instead of ethnic Arabs

Moving the goalposts, are we? You folks are the ones trying to say that certain ethnic groups are less equal than others.
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>>3094759
He's right though. The Arab countries are among the worst offenders, despite the whole country welcoming them into a socialist paradise over the last 50 years.

We have given them everything, they have never needed anything, and yet they are the most criminal of our guests.
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>>3094758
>Muslim
>ethnic Arab

These don't mean the same thing. They aren't synonyms. The fact that you conflate them is revealing. We were talking about ethnicity, and now we're talking about religion. We're about one step from somebody saying that it's not racist to hate Muslims.

What it boils down to is that you're trying to assign all the evils in the world to the religious or ethnic groups you don't like or are afraid of, and you're willing to bend your oh-so-scientific criteria to place the blame on anybody you want.
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>>3094762
No I'm trying to tell you muslim children group up very early in life, they bond through their religious identity and do all the good and bad things together.
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Anyway, enough of this sidetracking about Denmark. It was just to show you you are wrong.
>>3094706
>>3094762
>the same opportunities or face all the same pitfalls in life
Don't blame it on the lack of opportunities, and don't blame it on random pitfalls.

We have tried to give our Africans and muslims more advantages than native danish children, we have tried to give them higher special treatment, expensive special schools that teach in their mother tongue. Nothing works.
It's not an issue of unequal opportunities.

It's about people who make dumbfuck life decisions, and dumbfuck liberals who blame it on everybody else than the perpetrators who make bad decisions.
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>all the asspained /pol/babbies itt

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>>3094757
>Tourists, on the whole, tend to not be criminals
That's also true. But that study was people who had settled down in the country.

So not exactly tourists.
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>>3094772
You do realize that in around 100 years time, the world will be split between Sharia Law and Asian psychopathy, right? Your great-grandaughter will either be stoned for getting raped or drowned in a river. Western Culture is at war and its losing, quite sadly because of progressives doing everything they can to undermine it.

And to be clear, I'm not even talking about the relative detail stuff, but more a rolling back everything since the Enlightenment.
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>>3094780
>That's also true. But that study was people who had settled down in the country.
>>3094755
>those visiting from the USA.
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>>3094782
>Asian psychopathy
Give me a fucking break.
Japan is probably the most peaceful society on earth, because being densely populated. They are doing great at avoiding becoming shit cities like Detroit and Baltimore despite being 130 million Japanese closely tight together.

South Korea is doing fine too, Samsung is awesome, and developing a lot of cool technologies.

China isn't all that bad either, they are very pragmatic in their problem solving.

>>3094783
That was the liberal guy I was trying to lecture, he doesn't know shit about those statistics.
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>because being densely populated
*despite being
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>>3094782
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
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>>3094798
>thinking that's a rebuttal

But please, tell me how Europe is better now than 20 years ago.
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>>3094801
I can't, because the neoliberals fucked us in 2008 and austerity caused all kinds of damage.
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>>3094801
The post-soviet collapse recession ended in like 1999. So slightly under 20 years from a massive low point, economically speaking.
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>>3094801
Oh, I'm sorry, you were looking for this

>everything bad is the fault of the nonwhites
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>>3094782
Take a step back and read what you just wrote and in a moment of self reflection recognize what a fucking tool you are. You sound like a doomsday prepper.
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>>3094805
Not quite.

However, Non-whites and non-asians are indeed to blame for their own fuckups.
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>>3094808
And poor people are poor because they made bad decisions, uneducated people were never interested in education, and people who can't afford health insurance deserve to die.

t. Paul Ryan
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>>3094811
>And poor people are poor because they made bad decisions
See>>3094614
How do we solve the problem? Do you want us to throw even more money at them?

We need your wisdom, mr. Liberal.

>people who can't afford health insurance deserve to die
Try to at least understand the other size of the argument.
If you eat and eat until you become a 400 pound landwhale, would you blame me for not wanting my taxes to fix your life decision?
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>>3094817
http://www.humanityinaction.org/knowledgebase/9-homelessness-in-a-welfare-state-perspectives-from-copenhagen
>Homelessness is not a housing or financial problem, but a condition generally caused by a lack of social competencies.
>According to Brandt and Pedersen, most - but not all - homeless people in Copenhagen either abuse drugs, abuse alcohol, have mental disorders, or any combination of the three. Pedersen noted that there is a social hierarchy within the homeless population itself with alcoholics at the top, those with mental disorders at the bottom, and those who abuse drugs in the middle.

>If you eat and eat until you become a 400 pound landwhale

then you probably have an underlying medical problem and should get your stomach stapled.
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>>3094835
>abuse drugs, abuse alcohol
So you admit bad life decisions exist? It's not the racist system that suppress them, but their own bad life decisions?
Could it be? Have you finally realised?

>then you probably have an underlying medical problem
Isn't 30% of Amerifats fat as fuck?
Their life, their choice to eat and eat.

We can warn them all we want, bu they will still eat, and not listen to reason.
And then you are forced to pay for their health care, because they get all sorts of cardio diseases.

Do you see how your system is unjust tyranny for the working class?
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>>3094841
Drug use is a choice. Drug addiction and alcoholism are chronic diseases that most people can't fix on their own and should be treated medically. It's nice how you skipped over mental illness, though.

>Isn't 30% of Amerifats fat as fuck?
It's plain to see that you've never been to America and don't understand the set of circumstances that have got us to where we are (cities oriented around driving, food portions too large, too much processed food that's readily available and cheap thanks to subsidies, too much sugar in all our food).

It's easy to ascribe everybody's problems to personal responsibility when you gloss over details and simplify every situation.
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>>3094847
>Drug use is a choice.
Yes. And every child is told there is an addiction that follows it.
And yet there are people such as you who claim the White Patriarchy is suppressing those poor people in Detroit.

But the truth is it's just a bunch of retards who made bad instantly gratifying life decisions. (They choose 1 marshmallow now over 2 marshmallow later)

>cities oriented around driving, food portions too large
What about the 1970's You still has your entire society revolving around driving, and you didn't have fat epidemics then. Blaming your problems on cars? What a fucking terrible joke.
Just go exercise you fat fuck.
Blaming it on food portions? Just stop eating too much you fat fuck.
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>It's nice how you skipped over mental illness, though.
Oh well, I can't win every arguments, so I make concessions here and there.

I somehow dooubt all of Baltimore is suffering form mental illness though.
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>>3094852
We were talking about homelessness and now you're back to drug crime?

>>3094850
Who mentioned the white patriarchy? You did.

Who's denying that the environment a person is born into molds them as a person and shapes the decisions they make? You are. Who's denying that good education can help a person make good decisions in life? You are, apparently.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/poverty-disturbs-children-s-brain-development-and-academic-performance/
http://www.scilearn.com/blog/ten-facts-about-how-poverty-impacts-education
https://ideas.repec.org/p/pra/mprapa/31826.html
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-athletes-way/201507/childhood-poverty-has-detrimental-impacts-brain-structure

You're big on the idea of racial predestination, I guess.
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>>3094858
>>We were talking about homelessness
No, we're about about stupid people making bad decisions in life. And you think more socialism giving them more money will solve everything.
If denmark's socialists can't solve it, make you think your policy is any better?

>Who mentioned the white patriarchy?
That's what liberals do. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-neo07Rrbg

You seem to think there is some racist system keeping down the poor in USA.
So I linked you to all the homeless poor in Denmark, and it turns out there is no white patriarchy who keeps them down.
All of it is just your wishful thinking.

>environment
>education
I already went through this. Africans and Arabs here get free housing and free money, and free school.

What more do you demand from us?

Teach me your Liberal wisdom, what is it we are doing wrong?
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>>3094869
I am not smarter than Denmark's experts, but I do recognize that if Denmark hasn't solved homelessness (which is relatively low compared to Denmark's population), then it's a complex problem. Hence the article I linked.

>You seem to think there is some racist system keeping down the poor in USA.

You keep repeating this as if it allows you to be totally ignorant to the idea that poverty and crime self-perpetuate.

>Africans and Arabs here get free housing and free money, and free school.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Denmark#Education

>On average, immigrant students have weaker performance levels in reading, math, and science than their Danish peers at the end of compulsory education
>It was found that demographic characteristics such as the student's gender, number of siblings, language spoken at home, home education resources, the number of books in the home, parents' level of education, parents' income and occupation, and parents' labor market experience explained between 40 and 65% of the achievement gap between immigrant and native Dane test scores.
>Although it was predicted that second generation students would outperform their first generation counterparts, the study found that country of origin should be considered when evaluating second generation academic performance, with Pakistani and Lebanese second generation students performing better than first generation students, but Turkish and Yugoslavian second generation students performing at the same level as first generation students.
>The PISA Etnisk 2015 study indicated that the achievement gap of first-generation immigrants had narrowed to the level of second-generation immigrants from 2009 to 2015, but that the scores of second-generation immigrants had not improved in the same period.

So, education takes time. Perfect assimilation doesn't happen overnight.

>another anime response
I have really got to stop replying to your bullshit.
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>>3094887
>which is relatively low compared to Denmark's population
It is low. But it still exists, and no matter how much money you give to these people, they will stiff make bad decisions with that money.

Bad individual decisions shouldn't punish the collective.
The things your politicians propose is insanity.

>poverty and crime self-perpetuate
Nope. Over here they get free everything, and more than enough money to live in decent housing in decent neighbourhoods.
Yet they choose to band together in ghettos which they then turn into crime holes.
They don't lack anything over here, and yet they commit robbery, rape and murder anyway.

>Although it was predicted that second generation students would outperform their first generation counterparts
>education takes time.
Nope.
Pic related, see: http://www.dst.dk/da/Statistik/NytHtml?cid=20403

The column that reaches index 250 are the 2nd generation from non-western countries.
They were born here, and yet they commit all the crimes. You can't just say we need to wait for these people who were born here to assimilate better.

There is something completely fucked up about the culture they still cling onto, something that turns them into utter failures despite everything we have done to help them and their parents.

>Perfect assimilation doesn't happen overnight.
Americans, Hindu, and Chinese assimilate perfectly>>3094744
What's up with that?

How can you possibly explain this difference if you insist on only political correct excuses?
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>>3094897
Let me quote Wikipedia again, since you seem to have a problem with reading comprehension.

>the study found that country of origin should be considered when evaluating second generation academic performance, with Pakistani and Lebanese second generation students performing better than first generation students, but Turkish and Yugoslavian second generation students performing at the same level as first generation students.

So second generation immigrants from countries that are more "western" and "white" did worse than immigrants from Muslim countries.

Here's your anime face.
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>>3094903
>So second generation immigrants from *SOME* countries
Does it matter if the father or the son commit the crime?
We need to work against those criminals regardless.

Here's your Pakistanis>>3094744 commits 5,4 times as much crime as an American.
Your Lebanese friends, commit 7,7 times as much crime as an American.
Your Turkish friends, commit 5,8 times as much crime as an American.
Your Ottoman friends, commit 5,8 times as much crime as an American.

You're telling me we need to have patience with Arabs and Arifans who are born in our country, but that's just nonsensical.
Your solutions are worthless.
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>>3094841
>So you admit bad life decisions exist? It's not the racist system that suppress them, but their own bad life decisions?
why are you morons always so desperate to paint personal choices having a negative effect and systemic racism having a negative effect as mutually exclusive?
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>>3094910
>systemic racism
Tell me more about this Systemic Racism.

In Denmark we do everything we can to give the Arabs and Africans benefits, financial support, housing, special schooling in the mother tongue, free higher education that's the same as that of native danes.

And yet they fall behind compared to people from China and India.
Are you telling me our system is racist against just some, but not everybody?
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>>3094912
i dont know what the history of systemic racism in denmark is, but like this post earlier demonstrates, there's a whole lot of factors that you seem overly desperate to condense into a simple one sentence explanation along the lines of "brown peepl dumm and bad, white peepl good and smort">>3094887
>It was found that demographic characteristics such as the student's gender, number of siblings, language spoken at home, home education resources, the number of books in the home, parents' level of education, parents' income and occupation, and parents' labor market experience explained between 40 and 65% of the achievement gap between immigrant and native Dane test scores.
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>>3094915
>brown peepl dumm and bad
But people from India are brown too, and they are literally angels compared to the real baddies.
See>>3094744
Brown people from Morocco commit 4,2 times as much crime as brown people from India.

Are we being Systemic Racists towards Moroccans?
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Ugh, discord is leaking again...
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>>3094529
My thoughts exactly. I find it ironic that he's pushing back against the left-wing fascism as he's hurling insults in lieu of arguments.
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>>3094948
>being this asspained about insults

such delicate snowflakes
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>>3094948
It wasn't that bad. The first half of the thread was a waterfall of insults to people who hold a simple rally.
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>>3094807
We live in a world where major European police forces actively cover up pedophilia and sexual crimes in general perpetrated by Muslims because of political correctness.

Tell me, adherents of which culture will be the one that manages to survive?

See, that's the long and short of what most idiots just see as racism. The whole cloth truth is the culture of Africans and most Muslims (Sunni) is wholly incompatible with that of the West. One or the other will come out on top and squeeze Western Culture out because of attitudes like you just expressed. You can deny it all you want but it is happening. The UK government even assists in the enforcement of Sharia Law within its own borders (Muslim Arbitration Tribunal). That isn't multiculturalism. That's a foreign invasion that pisses on your country's culture and laws. There's no attempt within these communities to adapt to UK culture, but with their own understanding or spin, just a wholesale rejection and replacement.

And this isn't anger, just disappointment. The war is already lost. There are too many like you who refuse to see the forest for the trees. You kneejerk "not all muslims" to any legitimate concerns. You are quick to shift blame from Africans when much the same happens with them. And no, whites/westerners/whatever you believe I'm championing are not remotely perfect, but take a long look at where social progress has originated. Now take a look at stated goals of people like the various Sunni Caliphs as well as the numbers that follow them.
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>>3094965
>evryone so mean to muh memeflag wavers
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>>3094969
I just believe you should be able to take insult if you dish out insults yourself. It's a fair game.
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>>3094910
This guy has a lot of good insight on the systematic racism in America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNumDWB3rk
It's real. It does exist.


When he was 9-16 years old, some evil people told him:
- Whites want you to fail
- Education? Employment? Staying our of jail? They want you to fail
- Son, get good grades, because the white man already don't want you to get into college
- Son, don't do anything illegal, because the white man is already looking for reasons to lock up black man
- the narrative of white privilege
- White people don't have to work as hard as you
- White people are in conflicting competition with you

This is systemic brainwash of black children, making them grow up to become racist against whites and see them as an enemy.

That's one of the really huge sources of systemic racism against whites in America.

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>>3094770
>don't feel part of their parents culture since they're so far removed from their native country
>don't feel part of their new country's culture since they're so new to it, and most of the natives treat them like shit/at least not as equals
>be rootless, searching for an identity
>mosque is the only place they are truly welcomed

And you wonder why they're not integrating easier
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>>3095009
>since they're so far removed from their native country
Please look at those from India, China, Philippines. They too are far away from their native country, and yet they are doing such an admirable effort.

>don't feel part of their new country's culture since they're so new to it
Most of these criminals are BORN in Denmark. No goddamn excuses.

>natives treat them like shit
Go fuck yourself.
My countrymen are far more brainwashed liberal/leftist than you could ever hope to become. Don't you fucking dare accuse their efforts to help foreigners with racist accusations.
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>>3095005
black culture is the real issue
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>>3095016
American culture is the real issue
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>>3095011
It's still a god damn excuse when they aren't made to feel a part of that society, by racist fucks like you and well meaning people alike. Even most people positive towards immigrants don't actually treat them like equals, but as someone that only needs to be helped. Both most """left""" and """right""" are failing to integrate immigrants in other words.

The Indians have a much longer history of being a part of """Western culture""" and its expectations, with the whole colonization and all.
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>>3094402
well, Nazi sympathizers do deserve to have their heads caved in.
Also Ironic that these mongoloids who idolize hitler would have been exterminated by him.
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>>3095120
They just exterminated the top 1% jews who crashed their economy and your communist friends.
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>>3095148
>Source: Inforwars.com
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>>3095113
>they aren't made to feel a part of that society,
>Even most people positive towards immigrants don't actually treat them like equals
The scandinavian countries have done nothing but be accommodating to the new guests. My country in particular has done far more for them than your shit brain could ever imagine.
In Britain they were so polite to their guests, they let gangs of muslims rape 1400 children for years, out of fear of being called racist if they dared to step in.

Do you see what I mean? You go beyond every limit to infantilize the perpetrators of these crimes. Your are the racist elitist asshole who think rapists and murderers are just children who don't know any better, that they raped and murdered because the system pressured them to do so.

>The Indians have a much longer history of being a part of """Western culture""" and its expectations
By that logic, so does Pakistanis. And yet Pakistanis steal and rape 3,9 times as much crime as any Indian.
The only expectations we have is common sense. Don't steal, rape and murder, etc, you get free money every month, just stop doing crime.
And yet they commit crime anyway.

No, you are just full retard.
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>>3095157
>WHY CANT TEH LIBRULS JUST REALIZE THAT ALL BROIWN PEEPL ARE BAD AND EVIL??? IT'S SO OBVIOUS WHEN YOU SHUT OUT EVERYTHING THAT CONTRADICTS IT!!!
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>>3095169
Those from the Philipines, China, and India are model citizens who integrate well in Denmark and commit very little crimes.
Whereas muslims from Morocco, Turkey, Pakistan commit 3,8~4,4 times as much crime.

And the only explanation you offered was to call us racist. Put all of the blame on us, as if we did something bad.

But even so, your though process has so many holes in them. If Denmark was such a hostile place to Moroccans that they are forced to murder and rape, why did they move here in the first place?
There is no war in Morocco, they are not refugees.
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>>3095173
>And the only explanation you offered was to call us racist.
because even still the only explanation you're offering is "being muslim and from x, y, or z country = bad"
>Put all of the blame on us, as if we did something bad.
you did, it's the thing i just mentioned
>If Denmark was such a hostile place to Moroccans that they are forced to murder and rape, why did they move here in the first place?
lol and you're saying my thought process has holes in it?
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>>3095178
>because even still the only explanation you're offering is "being muslim and from x, y, or z country = bad"
That's what our prison statistics show. There is no other way to interpret the results.
We have done everything you could possibly expect from a host country. but to no avail.

If you could share from your infinite Liberal wisdom as to what we should have done better to accommodate these murders and rapists, please try.

>it's the thing i just mentioned
No, there is an order to this. I can't call them bad unless they do something bad. The things I say are purely reaction to our prison statistics.
First, they do crime, then we have statistics, then I call them bad.
In that order.

In your dead brain, you have the order mixed up.
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>>3095181
>all these mental gymnastics to pretend that there are no factors that contribute to criminality outside of ethnicity/religion
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>>3095005
>systemic racism against whites

It's so cute when racists appropriate terms that describe things that actually exist in order to promote the idea that the brown people are the real problem
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>>3095207
>appropriate terms
Ohhhh, so Murrifat blacks and liberals invented english language.

Nice going dodging a real issue that plague your country. It just goes to show you don't care about fixing and mending the country, but only make it worse.
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>>3095200
If there was, it would have shown for the statistics of the Phillipinos, Chinese, and Indians.

The problem here is you are brainwashed by the notion that all animal races are equally good at every discipline.

That's why I often say leftists are the most anti-science people there exist. You have no respect for biology, nature, gender.
You are by far the number 1 biggest threat to scientific progress in the world.
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>>3095225
>thinks others are brainwashed
>doesnt blink for a second at the notion that ethnicity and religion are the only factors that influence criminality
this is why everyone is laughing at you people
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>>3095225
also
>implying you people give any kind of a fuck about "science" that isn't just studies you can crudely hammer into the vague shape of "x group i already don't like is bad, and here's PROOF!!!!11!!"
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>>3095225
sure, call liberals anti-science when racialists are all about cherry-picking studies that support their predetermined conclusions and ignoring all factors contributing to success or lack thereof other than race (and Islam). you people are no better than phrenologists.
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>>3095236
What other factors? You linked to some naive bullshit that>>3094887
- Accused us for treating muslim boys and muslim girls differently,
- Accused us of not giving the poor muslims enough books in their homes,
- Accused us for the numbers of siblings the muslims have
- Accused us for the language the muslims speak in their own homes

Eeeeeeverything is the Danes fault. Muslims never aint din'do no noffing.
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>>3095239
>>3095241
I love science, it's the reason we have truth in the world.

I especially love science which isn't afraid to explorer truths that are uncomfortable.
This type of science which your communist friends seek to suppress and ban.
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>>3095244
Why so narcissistic, bro? Not everything is your fault just because it's not directly attributable to the personal decisions of the people you hate. Have a little humility.
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>>3095244
>Accused us, Accused us, Accused us
just because you're incredibly thin-skinned and have some kind of weird victim complex about the issue doesn't mean you were accused of anything. those are just a few factors that were identified in that one specific study that i was pointing to as an example of how little thought you people put into anything besides going full tunnel vision on what race/religion the people in any given study were and how that must be the only thing that mattered
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>>3095250
>Not everything is your fault
See>>3095009 and see>>3095113

According to the infinite liberal wisdom, eeeeverything is our fault.
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>>3095251
>victim complex
Considering we get weekly muslim self-combustion and muslim trucks of peace in Europe, you can't really blame us.

>those are just a few factors that were identified in that one specific study
And those factors are self inflicted within their own culture, within their own homes.

I left out those reasons for your sake, because they are lists of what the muslims do wrong compared to Chines, Indian, Philippinos, Americans.
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>>3095252
>I feel personally offended when people being up problems in my society, which I perceive to be perfect and blameless and aligned with my ethnic identity
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>>3095255
>people being up problems in my society
You didn't bring up problems in my society, you brought up problems in muslim society.

It's only natural to respond back in kind when you bring up factors that makes up the trash culture from the middle east (no books in homes, too many siblings, boys and girls treated differently) and pin them as what's wrong in our country.
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>>3095257
>my society is perfect and blameless and ethnically pure
>the only way it could have problems is because some impure race imported them
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>>3095256
~40 more posts until autosage? Let's go!
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>>3095258
>perfect
*Better, superior, the very why they move here, instead of moving to Mexico, or China.

>the only way it could have problems is because some impure race imported them
Those other factors you listed, are all ingrained in muslim culture.

The people from other Asian countries are strangely enough perfectly integrated in our country.
Strange, huh?
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>>3095260
Just 40 more years until America collapses.
You want more socialism? Have at it, just know that it won't solve anything, you will still have homeless people like we do, you will still have uncontrollable rape and murder from African and Arab people, just like we do.
Your ideology is a lie, and Scandinavia is the living proof of this.

Let's go!
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>>3095261
People migrate from societies with fewer/worse opportunities to societies with more/better opportunities. Simple as that.

Thankfully for you and your friends, Denmark has instituted asset forfeiture at the border so that immigrants will be discouraged from going there.

I'm honestly not sure why you're in here complaining day after day, though. Denmark is showing itself to be one of the least friendly western countries to immigration.
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>>3095264
My favorite thing about racists is when they really put themselves out in the open, like with this post.

Plus you've an anime picture. Could you be more of a stereotype?
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>>3095265
>asset forfeiture
That's called equality my friend.

Native danes who seek help from the government must also sell their stocks, live off their riches in their bank before they get welfare.
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>>3095267
I like it when retarded liberal Americans don't understand equality, and don't understand why rich muslim immigrants must pay to the state to finance the weak and the poor.
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>>3095268
Do you read, or do you just make things up?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/26/europe/denmark-vote-jewelry-bill-migrants/index.html

This is not about welfare. It's about discouraging refugees from seeking asylum.

>Items of "special sentimental value" such as "wedding rings, engagement rings, family portraits, decorations and medals" are exempted, according to the Danish Ministry of Immigration, Integration and Housing. But "watches, mobile phones and computers" can be confiscated, it says.

>"We hope this will start a chain reaction through Europe where other European countries can see there's the need to tighten the rules on immigration in order to keep European culture," said Martin Henriksen, spokesman for the right-wing Danish People's Party, which supports the law.

>rich Muslim immigrants

I thought the problem was poor muslims causing a drain on danish society? You could at least use consistent reasoning for why you hate muslims.
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It took 1 professional socialist from Denmark to destroy a whole board of amateur socialists from America.

That feel when Denmark > Murrifats

>>3095343
>This is not about welfare.
Welfare, socialism, redistribution of wealth. It's all the same thing, the same thing retarded west coasters look up to.

If they have wealth, our socialist government will take that wealth and redistribute it to the weak and the poor.

Deal with it, Amateur.
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>>3095346
Sure, ignore the quote from a member of a Danish political party you probably voted for. If you're of voting age.
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>>3095349
Hello amateur. The guy you quoted is not in the Danish government.
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>>3095350
Did I say that he was? He's a spokesman for a political party.

Here's a quote from somebody in government:

>"We need to take measures to basically make Denmark a little bit less attractive compared to the other European countries that people seek asylum in."
>Marcus Knuth, Danish MP

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/01/25/464300740/denmark-wants-to-become-a-little-bit-less-attractive-to-refugees

Why even deny this? It's what you're in favor of, as you've repeated multiple times in this thread. Are you changing your tune now so that you can take the role of an enlightened socialist? Socialists can be racist, too.
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>>3095353
>He's a spokesman for a political party.
That's the equivalent to interviewing a member of the House of representatives and use his opinion to represent why Obama signed some executive order.

You would be pretty fucking dumb to do that.

>Why even deny this?
When did I deny it?
It's just a nice side effect. And it displays the hypocrisy of you Amateur socialists.

You love the redistribution of wealth, but only until it hits yourself, or your muslim butt buddies.
Then it's "Ohhh no! Socialism bad"

Too bad, idiot. You have to take the whole package of wealth redistribution.

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>>3095354
>I found something to talk about besides crime, education, and marshmallows
>I'm a true-blue socialist except when it comes to the homeless, alcoholics, drug addicts, the mentally ill, and people born in Denmark but not of Danish ethnicity
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>>3095358
Do I need to remind you that it was you who bought up the topic of redistributing wealth from immigrants?

>I'm a true-blue socialist
Scandinavians are far more socialist than you Murrifat amateurs could ever hope to be.

I'm glad you gave me the opportunity to show you your place in the beginner ladder. You still have a long way to climb, amateur.
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>>3094167
There is no excuse for that in America where you are more likely to go overweight than go hungry.

says a sheltered bitch who has never grown up under any form of hardship.
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>>3095364
Nobody is forcing you to murder another person, or stealing from a shop, just because you couldn't get fat enough from the food stamps.
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>>3095362
Maybe some are, but you aren't. You're just talking like one because you think it's helping you win an argument.

You talk way too much like a Republican to be a socialist. You and any given Reaganite, Thatcherite, or Randroid would get along just fine.
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>>3095368
>Maybe some are, but you aren't.
How offending.... I just schooled you in redistribution of wealth, and did I get any appreciation from it?

Nope, I get compared to Thatcher by ungrateful amateur socialist.
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>>3095370
>still posting animes like it means something
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>>3095372
>He is still butthurt over our government stealing wealth from his muslim butt buddies
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>>3095374
Is this what your argument has devolved into? Why should anybody ever take you seriously? Not that you ever had a great argument in the first place.
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the funniest part of the joke that is /pol/ is that they don't know that they're the joke
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>>3095375
It can't be helped, I'm playing against baby socialists who don't know why a socialist government would take wealth from a certain group of people and give to another group of people.

Your ass buddies over at CNN apparently can't use their brains either. I should take you guys as typical American intellects.
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>>3095385
It's pretty great that your government found a way to scare off pesky refugees while also keeping up a facade of socialism, isn't it?

I imagine this thread is the only place and time you will ever claim to be a socialist.
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>>3095387
>facade
No, my naive and young Amateur.
That theft of goods you objected to, that is the true face of socialism.

If you want to be like us, stop whining and crying just because the government starts stealing from you.
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>>3095388
Oh, I get it now. This is about you being angry at socialism for its high taxes, and delighting in how you see it as being turned on the people you hate. Because revenge or something.

I knew you were a Thatcherite.
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>>3095395
Nah, I benefit a lot from our socialism. It must bother you a lot that I see the pitfalls and benefits to either side, and can call you out on your naive bullshit.
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>>3095403
It sure seems to benefit you and hurt Muslims, in Denmark's case, so I see why you tolerate it.
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>>3095406
Ohhhh such hurt muslims, not they will have to get free money from Sweden and Germany instead. How awful of us ;_;

Muslims benefit even more from Danish welfare than native danes do.
They are about 3% of our population, but they take about 25% of our welfare money.
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>>3095408
Isn't that how socialism works? From each according to his ability, to each according to his need?

Or are you saying some people are more equal than others in your version of socialism?
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>>3095459
I'm not sure what you two are actually on about.

Denmark isn't socialist, it's social democratic. To just plainly say it's socialist is quite dishonest as the foundation for the nordic system is socialist ideas within a capitalist system, not a socialist one. Our markets are freer than the US'.
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>>3095459
There are a few different ways to look at it.

Premise 1:
>Mexicans, Blacks, Muslim are inferior to Whites and Asians
Oh, so that's why 54% blacks in American on welfare.
Ah, so that's why 52% Mexicans in America on welfare?
I see. That's why this 3% muslim populating eating 25% of our country's share?

Premise 2:
>Mexicans, Blacks, Muslim are equal to Whites and Asians
Then why are 54% blacks in America on welfare?
And why are 52% Mexicans in America on welfare?
And why is this 3% muslim populating eating 25% of our country's share?
That can't be. They are equal to us, the obvious conclusion is they are cheating and scamming our socialist system.

If you ask me to accept premise 1, then you're telling me to be a racist, is that really okay with you?
If you ask me to accept premise 2, then I have to take action an repel the cancer that is undermining my socialist paradise.

Which ever one you choose, you lose.

>>3095466
>Denmark isn't socialist
More socialist than murricucks can ever be.
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>>3095468
>More socialist than murricucks can ever be.
For sure, but that doesn't necessarily make it a socialist state. Funnily enough, the Nordic Countries are better at letting people achieve the American Dream, ie the idea that anyone in society can acquire wealth and success by virtue of their own hard work, no matter their background.
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>>3095468
For your version of case 2 to be true, you have to assume that all Americans start in life with the same opportunities and built-in advantages. To refute that, you have only to look at our president.

All people deserve the same chance at success. In the current world, people simply don't all start with the same chances or advantages. Some start at the beginning of the foot race and some start 75% of the way through it. Some start 100 yards behind the starting line. Social progams exist to help them get a little further along in the race.
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>>3095476
Blacks and Mexicans have far larger advantages than Whites and Asians. You retarded murrifats are kicking asians out of university to make room for dumber people.
http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21669595-asian-americans-are-united-states-most-successful-minority-they-are-complaining-ever
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>>3095476
>To refute that
You will need to refute the Danish statistic as well. In a socialist country where school and university is free for everybody, the muslims drop out of school and join criminal gangs, and stay on welfare, despite all the good things like education is offered to them for free.
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>>3095487
>Blacks and Mexicans
>far larger advantages

You're an idiot. You should try reading sometime. It'll do you some good.

Even better, maybe visit America someday. Take a walk through Brownsville, NY.
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>>3095493
When you kick out Asian students to make room for retards who never opened a book in their life and never did any homework, you guys are the retards.

And the world is laughing at you.
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Bump limit hit. G'night, everybody. It's been real.
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>>3095496
Aww, the Libshit is retreating right when we reached the part were he would defend his fellow Democrats' racism and discrimination against Asians.

Such a shame.

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>>3095525
oh man, how will he ever defend against that nonsense you just made up?
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>>3095527
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html

Your country is trash. You Libshits are racist against smart and productive students while you let in retards who destroy your campuses.
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>>3091838
What?
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>>3095530
JFC that affirmative action bullcrap is the most racist thing I can imagine for a modern wester country to pass as a fucking law.
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>>3095570
Berkely is a center of violence.
Missouri uni is facing bankruptcy and closing down its dorms.
Yale professors are fired for encouraging Halloween.
Evergreen university has been hijacked by BLM terrorists, and now bans white students.

The low iq people the universities have invited in are now turning against the universities themselves.
Banning all the smart kids, to let in all the dumb kids turned out to be not such a great idea.
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A paragon of Liberal wisdom and virtue: https://youtu.be/K50Sx-rszQs

Liberal professors are now attacked for being white. They got what they wished for all along.
This is the liberal paradise.
A place where smart students are exiled, a place where violent thugs are accepted.
Truly a paradise of our leftist friends.

It feels so gooooooood.

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Yare yare, looks like I accidentally made a libshit angry.

Words can't reach his leftist dinosaur brain anymore.
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Asians and Whites are too smart!

I have an idea, let's ban them from our university: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_g9uIHCAZs

Now we can all be equally stupid as the mexicans and blacks! Equality!
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That feel when liberals are literally criminals.
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That feel when I support abortion.
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That feel when Trump now has a federal database of the illegal aliens.
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That feel when Trump will do as liberals ask for.
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That feel when liberal world citizen is killed by the Africans she loves.
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That feel when liberal and dead.
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That feel when African intellectuals discover African magic in universities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i80qaETtw8
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>>3092830
The back of the bald guy's head looks like a jew nose
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https://edsource.org/2017/at-cal-state-algebra-is-a-civil-rights-issue/582950

>The next civil rights court battle for California higher education may be about algebra.
>The culprit is Intermediate Algebra
>About 80 percent of African Americans required to take more than one remedial class in math do not complete their math requirements within six years
Nice work Libtards.
Math is now too racist for your African Americans, because it's too hard for them.

So the American solution is to make it a civil right issue and lower the standards.
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>>3095148
Not even remotely true.
They murdered gypsies, blacks, jews, handicapped people etc.
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>>3095637
wow, shocking to see /pol/ use victims of a tragedy as ammo for their "BROWN PEEPL R BAD AND EEVIL" campaign. surely we all thought they were above this.
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>>3095758
Muslims may murder others, but /pol/ are the real evil guys!
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This math is the number 1 oppressive threat to African Americans in today's society.

We have to do something about this racist math....Somehow reduce its racism against Blacks and Hispanics.
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I-it's n-not oppression, guys, it's just their culture...
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>>3095870
>still posting trash in hopes somebody will fite u
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>>3095891
The reason you were blown the fuck out in every argument in this thread is because you spend too much time in your safe space, while your opponent had his fangs shapened in open battlefields like /pol/.

Safe spaces dull your claws, open debates sharpen them.
There is the ultimate expression of the above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFFJWzgUmTE
A beat of war vs a woman who spend too much time in safety against oppressing opinions.
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>>3090456
that's not /pol/ it is reddit and their t_d
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>>3092834

those are some yellow teef
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>>3093374

Oh ok, let's just accept idiocy so you don't get your e-feelings hurt.

I lol heartily and also shake my head when I see a snowflake liberal "lose" her shit in a youtube rant.
Quit being a pussy.
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Leftism = Violence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0f6tDoP5Fw
They have it in Europe, and they have it in America now too.

It's when they lose everything they become the most dangerous and violent.
Lose every argument => violence
Lose the election => violence

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>>3097214
Speaking of idiocy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbvbgKiL-iI

The left is doubling down against science. "scientific racism" is their new bad thing.
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