Patreon Client Pricing

Keep in mind Patreon is not charity, it's crowd-sourced payment. If a "creator" is at the point where they hire a commercial photograph, they are at the point where they sort this kind of stuff out like professional businessmen.

Imagine you're shooting some art collection in a museum, and the custodian wants to license the photos for postcards in the souvenir shop or whatever. That's how you should approach this.

>>3062785
honestly not going to read all your examples
clients will do all kinds of stupid shit and I gave up, just charge what you can up front and give them a high res Jpg

for that reason I'm shooting less and less digital and going back to analogue, I charge $600 half day and $1200 full day plus film / processing (mostly 120, 4x5 but I have a fridge stocked with hard to find 135 film stock). They get the negs / transparencies, and I recommend a scanning service who offers drum scanning

the local market for digi has just been murdered, so many people offer $100 photo shoots. I'll do cheap shit like that but use a shit a6000 and take 6 months to give the clients their photos because i don't want them to call me again, but is some cases this has the opposite effect.

>>3062785
I guess I don't understand what the problem is.. Once you agreed to shoot for a negotiated price, what the customer does or does not do with the photos they commissioned you to take for them is none of your business right? Or am I missing something in your post?

>>3062926

This is incredibly unhelpful. The examples are prime reasons why this is a complicated issue.

>>3062790
I think this is a good example, but one of the issues is that there are people who have established fanbase and are hoping to use that as a side hustle. I'm all for that, but I know I can't quote your example to those who are just starting.

>>3062939
This is not correct. Much like shooting for businesses and corporations, licensing and usage is one of the primary sources of income for photographers. The photo is going to live on well past the initial shoots so usage is designated with guidelines, rights, fees, etc.
However, when it comes to Patreon, monitoring usage is nearly impossible and I don't want to give a ridiculous break in pricing to someone who then pumps out hundreds and hundreds of prints with no payment my way.

I know my work is good enough to drive sales up for patrons and on patreons and don't want to be taken advantage of, yet I want to be fair.

At the beginning when you're going over the prices, bring up the option to license your photos for them to print and sell. The earlier you let them know that you own the pictures and you'll need compensation for them to sell it, the better.

Try upselling it. Call it the "Patreon Package." First, pick a price for how much the licensing will cost. Go on their patreon and see how many patrons they have and base the price on that. You might have to do some trial and error to figure out a good formula.

Then put some additional features in the package. If you don't already give 100% absolute highest resolution and 100% image size, then give them that. Print off proofs to show them what their pictures will look like once printed. Give them a few pictures at 1:1 aspect ratio optimized for them to post on patreon. And naturally, all of this will be an additional fee. Even if they don't buy the Patreon Package, that licensing fee alone will look better when you compare it to the full package.

>>3066351
*give them a few pictures at 1:1 aspect ratio optimized for them to post on INSTAGRAM

>>3062926
filtered desu

>>3062926
>for that reason I'm shooting less and less digital and going back to analogue
There are still actually some dorks that will go for film shoots over digital and pay real money for that crap? Wow, crazy world we live in.
>>3064101
Dude, you don't sound even relatively pro if you are having such dilemmas. Get yourself an attorney to work legal stuff of licencing out or just quit pissing your pants over "POSSIBLE LOST PROFITS" cos you sound like Hollywood crying over TPB.