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This is the Film General Thread: "Winter Sucks" Edition.
This is a place to post about anything film related. Processing, scanning, developing, gear, etc is all fair game. Let's fill this thread with images so try to include an image with your post.
Have fun! Remember, there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.
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>>3029063
show shit done with the nishika.
>>3029065
Just got it. Going to do a test roll this week to make sure it works, then I'm flipping it. Will post a few towards the end of the week.
>>3029063
can someone tell me why everyone loves pro400h so much?
Just bought some of this. Anyone tried this out before?
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>>3029069
It's beautiful film imo
>>3029073
yeah if only you could hit focus tho
Why is getting your film developed and scanned so fucking expensive? it's almost like $20 a roll in NYC.
>>3029110
>why is this jew city so expensive?
>>3029110
Do it yourself or send it away to be developed. Neither are difficult
>>3029116
TheDarkRoom is alright, there's probably hundreds of places that you could send it off to.
If you grow the balls to do it yourself the dev costs comes to less than a dollar for a roll
>>3029069
its nice.
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>>3029117
I live in an apartment, I dont really have room to have barrels and shit laying around.
>>3029119
wait did you also post one with a big wooden cable spindle?
that was pro400h?
>>3029120
I think you may have a misconception of how big developing gear is.
A Paterson tank is the size of a jug of milk and that's pretty much the only thing you need. The chemicals come in ~500ml bottles or less. All you need is a room (or darkbag) that is totally dark with no windows, most people use their bathrooms at night. After you load the film in darkness you can do the rest in your kitchen sink. It's stupid easy and takes up no space at all
>>3029124
yeah it was 400h too. good memory lol.
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>>3029127
I was trying to figure out what film it was
glad I finally found out
what are you shooting with?
>>3029125
Is there a tutorial or anything to read? I'm intrigued now.
>>3029129
those were done with a pentax 67.
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>>3029130
Yeah lad just youtube it, search 'B&W film developing tutorial' or something.
The basic process is this:
go into your totally dark room (or bag) with your paterson tank, the roll of film, a pair of scissors and a can opener. turn off the lights, wait for a couple minutes for your eyes to adjust (since it might not actually be totally dark). Grab your roll of film and the can opener and pop open the top. Pull out the spool inside and prepare for film to go everywhere. Scrabble around in the dark and film the leader of the film. Grab your scissors and cut the leader off, leaving a rounded section. Grab your reel, load the film into the 'ears' of the reel and start slowly walking it onto the reel. This will only take a 45 seconds or so to get the film onto the reel. Once you feel the spool from the cannister hit the reel, grab your scissors and cut it off, then reel the last bit of film onto the reel.
Get your reel, place it on the center spool of the tank and then put the tank back together, making sure to put the light tight lid on. You can turn on the lights now, and that's the hard part done. Practise all this with an old roll of film in the light so you can do it down pat.
The next part is the actual developing.
Developer goes in. You agitate and wait for the certain amount of time.
Developer goes out. Water goes in. Agitate, and water goes out.
Fixer goes in. Agitate, wait for certain amount of time. Fixer goes out.
Aaaaannd you're done. Screw off the light tight lid, look at your negatives for a sec, then let the negatives sit under running water for 10 minutes or so. Hang to dry
>>3029081
The RF was off at that time unfortunately. Another 400H shot.
>>3029120
Space is not an issue when it comes to develop film. I load my tank on the toilet seat in a 2'x3' room since it has no windows. After the film is loaded into chill on my couch while developing and fixing.
how do i scan the film on the v700?
emulsion side facing the glass?
or other way around?
Got a nikon fm2 with 50mm 1.8g lens rykkor for 75 bucks. Pretty good deal?
I found a nishika the other day for 3 dollars. Going to take it on holiday.
>>3029168
DSLR scan or a dedicated scanner.
I use a Plustek 8200ai, you could pick one up for less than $200 used. Pays for itself after about 10 rolls
here's a raw scan from it
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>>3029168
epson v500.
>>3029183
If anything the quality is a lot better than what I get from a lab. You also get a lot more control over colour grading and whatnot
>>3029183
labs apply presets, crop and do lots of shitty shit over the photos. self scan is the way, or by someone that knows what hes doing, not a lab.
>>3029183
I just did my first roll of film with a kit at home and it's way more simple then I thought it would be.
I'm very glad I did it.
One thing though to non newbies. I know you're meant to store film in the cold but what about developer, blix and stabiliser?
>>3029139
Is the process the same for colour? I'm getting a scanner but also considering developing at home too.
>>3029204
I'm interested in developing at home too now, would also like to know the process for color.
>>3029207
Just youtube "developing c41 film" and what the 18 minute long video
>>3029110
NZ fag here. Damn broe, store in my town does it for $10, cant imagine paying $20 for that shit
Do I keep film in the fridge or freezer? I'm guessing fridge if you shoot often, and freezer for long term storage?
Took the CMEHA along for some logging.
Wish I got some action shots but I had to do the cutting, couldn't let my hapless madman uncle kill himself and fell one on the tractor.
Reeling in the catch with a log winch powered by the tractor.
A closer look at this unholy contraption. Don't want to be anywhere near it when it's running.
Uncle on his way to rig chokers on the last remaining logs.
One more look at our old Valmet, early 60's model with the optional cabin. These things were built to run until doomsday and any fault can be fixed with a monkey wrench and a can of oil. Engine runs on pretty much anything. It'll probably still be running fine when I enter my grave.
A murky gas station shot to call it a day. Smena Symbol with T-43 f/4, RPX400 stand developed in Rodinal.
>>3029173
It's a very camera, good luck!
>>3029193
Cool and dark is all you need. Congrats on getting started!
>>3029212
>I'm guessing fridge if you shoot often, and freezer for long term storage?
Exactly. The only film in my freezer is IR stuff because I basically never shoot it.
>>3029225
Cool shot.
>>3029072
It's not the best. Looks better at 50, pic related. Not very sharp for such slow film.
Fuji is just as cheap.
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>>3029250
Looks so similar to Kodak Colorplus that I'm suspecting a rebrand.
>>3029253
Yep, it's Kodak coloured when you dev it too.
Consensus seems to be that it's actually Vericolor 100.
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>>3029262
Brisbro?? This street looks familiar
>>3029267
Pretty sure it's Latrobe terrace in Padington
>>3029265
>3.5euro each
If you think that's jew pricing, I think you need to check the mirror, Ishmael.
>inb4 no reflection
I'd rather pay $5AUD for lomo branded kodak than $8 for Kodak branded Kodak that's no better (Gold200).
How's Agfacolor Vista 100? There's 48 27exp rolls local for $110. I'm about out of c41 35mm. Worth grabbing?
Some pictures from a recent trip (will make a proper thread once I have all of them developed)
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i have a yashica electro 35 in perfect condition EXCEPT for the viewfinder which is fogged. is it too difficult to pull it appart to clean it? i dont want to fuck up shit. i need to sell it.
Where to buy c41 kit and how many rolls can one kit produce?
>>3029465
>what is google
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/109267-REG/Tetenal_T109306_C_41_Press_Kit_for.html
http://www.firstcall-photographic.co.uk/tetenal-colortec-c-41-rapid-negative-kit-1-litre/p6690
https://www.fotoimpex.de/shopen/chemistry/tetenal-colortec-c-41-negative-kit-rapid-1000-ml-for-12-16-films.html
https://www.macodirect.de/en/chemistry/color-chemistry/c-41/4537/tetenal-colortecc-c-41-kit-for-1l
https://www.amazon.com/Ultrafine-Unicolor-Powder-Developer-Liter/dp/B00OU6LXUG
>>3029469
Do you need all that stuff in order to develop your film?
>>3029478
you need one of those
You also need a tank, maybe a changing bag (a dark room is also fine) and some other misc stuff (thermostat, funnel etc.)
GF dropped my rolleicord onto granite floor. The back lid was bent and unable to close. I bent it back by hand and it is now closing shut, but is slightly malformed along the edges, making me nervous about light leaks.
Was thinking I might get some air sealing rubber tape on there before I run an expensive roll through it, any experience?
>>3029478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB8qXU7dkNk
Just keep everything at 100F / 38C at all times. Except the stabilizer at the end. Can be room temp as he says in the vid.
>>3029110
Where do you go? And are you getting only scanned to a CD or prints too? I usually go to Luster Photo on Avenue A
>>3029532
question the average photo labs scan your film at which pixel dimensions at average? and, do they give you JPEG or TIFF files?
should be great if they give you 16bpc tiff files but don't know if they do or do u have to take the film to a specialized lab to get that
So if I buy film like fujifilm 400 should I only shoot up to 400 iso?
Also to get the right shot what do you adjust first. Shutter speed? Aperture? Or iso?
>>3029552
i've heard that with film, you better overexpose a bit. the tonal curve in the highlights permits that. in fact i've found a great article on it:
http://terriniphoto.com/?p=6417
>>3029496
Id put a junk roll through and see if there's any leaks. Also sell that gf wtf
>>3029496
>GF dropped my rolleicord
time to drop her too.
EBAY CHINESE CHANGING BAG
cop or not? any experiences?
>>3029496
>GF dropped my rolleicord
>rolleicord
>cord
She's signalling that only beta-manlets shoot pleb-tier Rolleis. Ante up niqqa. Pimp slap that ho, get a Planar Rolleiflex.
>>3029549
Odds are they will be JPEGs and <2000px on the long side. 99% of lab scans I've seen are pieces of shit and overpriced. That's why pretty much everyone scams themselves.
>>3029552
Shoot it at 400. As far as adjustment order goes, it doesn't matter. I typically try to keep my camera set to 1/125th and adjust the aperture accordingly. I almost always adjust shutter speed first and then aperture. I'm not a bokeh fag so I try to keep my aperture as small as possible. That's just me though, there's no right or wrong way so long as you end up closing correctly.
>>3029496
Seems like it could work, run a cheap test roll through it first after you fix it up. Luckily my gf has never dropped a camera of mine. Shes only accidently knocked my guitar over, snapping the neck...
So Nobody's tried Agfa Vista 100? It looks good from what I can see online...but would like to hear an actual opinion on it if possible. Also just realize I've dropped $350 on film in the past month...think I have a problem.
Got my first mechanical film camera today, pic related. How hard is it going to be to transition from digital to this, /fgt/s? I'm currently using a Kodak Gold 200 roll, is that the best for this particular camera or does anyone have a better recommendation?
>>3029646
Yes, Kodak Gold 200 ist the best for this particular camera.
>>3029646
Kodak Gold is nice cheap film to use while you get the hang of things. Just bought 10 rolls of gold 100 myself!
>>3029646
Soviet lense coatings aren't exactly what you'd call "optimised" for american films. Everything will come out slightly red.
Try ORWO film.
>>3029110
yeah send it out. the lab by me is not the best but it's only 3.50 for color and 5.00 for black and white, 120 or 135.
>>3029110
I use a Canon CanoScan 9000F Mark II. It's about $150, and it works quite well.
Am I retarted or is it fucked to get a 120 roll on a Patterson reel? Holy fucking hell I've only been using steel reels and I went to throw a roll of portra on a Paterson and I think I right dicked the roll. Is it just me? On a side note colour deving went well today otherwise.
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>>3029687
yep, getting mf film on a paterson is hell.
Nwadays if I need to do a roll of 220 I use a paterson and load from the centre of the reel, as if it were a stainless. Soooooo much easier. (I do this because I don't have stainless 220 reels)
No reason you couldn't to it for 120 as well, and just get two rolls on the one reel into the bargain.
>>3029687
It's easy as fuck. Don't push the film past the little ball bearings. Instead line it up and pull it through. Once you get the lead edge past that point do the typical twisting motion to put the rest of the roll on. I find 120 easier than 35mm. Lights off to lights back on takes less than a minute.
>>3029707
i have no idea what these other people are talking about Paterson tank made everything way easier and quicker...
Has anyone fucked around with a minolta cl? I found one at my dad's house that he said hasn't been touched in decades
>>3029729
>he said hasn't been touched in decades
just like his son lmaooooooo.
>>3029732
The struggles are real.
>>3029729
its a nice expensive tiny 35mm range finder with a meter ... its a good camera
How do I prevent my film from sticking/jamming with Patterson / Samigon reels? I keep my reels very clean and just to make sure ordered a brand new one and had the same issue.
I shoot HP5+ and can feed the reel on for about 60 - 75% of the roll but then it begins to stick and jam resulting in either an entire lost roll or losing a bunch of shots.
I've tried techniques such as scrubbing the reels with hot water and heating them up a bit with a hairdryer before trying to feed it on but have failed every time.
When I first got my reels I was shooting Kentmere and had no issues feeding it on but now even kentmere gives me issue on the old reels and the brand new one.
Any tips would be great, I'm not switching to stainless steel because I'm already broke as it is.
>>3029752
The very start of the film likely has a bend in it. It needs to be perfectly straight otherwise it'll stop loading near the end of the roll.
Happens to me all the time. Just keep a level head and do it again until it works. Make sure the start of the film is nicely rounded
>>3029752
do you have a two reel tank? make sure you keep the correct two pieces of the reels together, if you swap them around the reels can be the wrong width. I fucked up a roll of 35 and a roll of 120 before I realized the reels weren't identical to each other
>>3029759
I always round the film off on the ends.
Would having the natural bend of the film be too much?
>>3029762
I do have a two reel tank but it happened on a brand new samigon reel that I got today also.
>>3029763
Rounding off does nothing for a Paterson reel. I've always left mine with hard corners, and have never had a problem. I also dry my reels for a couple of days after use, so they're bone dry when stored. That may change things.
>>3029707
Ahhh that makes sense pull through then just wind on the last little peice. I'm gonna give it another go tomorrow.
>>3029768
Mine are always as dry as possible
>>3029763
It depends. If you try loading the film emulsion side inwards and it doesn't load, try loading it with the emulsion side facing outwards and see if that helps.
90% of the time that works for me
can some folks post more pro 400h? i know a guy in ja pa n who is offering to order for me, free shippin from nippon
>>3029496
Discard woman, acquire sanity.
Bin that shitty TLR too before you catch medical gayness and start shooting HP5.
>>3029646
How hard? You got yourself a Soviet camera, nigger. These things appear sturdy but can die on you at any time without warning. Open the back and fire the shutter several times at all speeds to see if it works at least for starters. Then google up the operating manual and read it through. Then google up how to calibrate the rangefinder because chances are you have to do that to get correct focus. Then google up sunny 16 to know how to expose at least in daylight conditions, or carry your digishitter along to meter with something.
The best film for your camera is the cheapest film you can find in your area until you know what you're doing, or until your FED breaks and you toss it in a junk pile wondering whatever you were thinking.
Christ, people. Soviet cameras are meme cameras. They are not reliable. They are not half as sturdy as they were built to appear. Usually the only damn thing worth anything on them is the lens. They're about the last thing any first-timer to film should get.
>>3029822
>this is what capitalist dogs actually think
Kamera is fine
>>3029720
>>3029752
As I said, the key is to PULL the film through in the beginning. After that it should be smooth sailing. I don't even understand what could go wrong after that point. Your reels are completely dry, right?
>>3029769
It's a game changer. Last time I had issues loading a Paterson reel was back in HS (10 years ago) before I knew this trick.
>>3029793
Just copped 5 fresh pro-packs of 120 for $100 here in Japan. Here's another 400H
>>3029853
I always pull it through and make sure it's seated correctly.
The reels are 110% dry.
>>3029865
My only other suggestion is to use your thumbs to lightly grip the film as you twist and turn the reel back and forth.
I honestly can't think of another thing you could be doing incorrectly. its definitely not the reel's fault, as me and others have zero problems loading film on the same exact reel. They're simple machines and it comes down to user error.
Another 400H.
>>3029737
Has a 40mm Rokkor on it too. I just need to get a battery for it to see if everything is actually working right.
>>3029752
Try this method anon: https://www.kpraslowicz.com/the-secret-to-loading-35mm-film-for-development-175
Basically pull the film all the way out of the canister and then snip the end and reverse it.
>>3029752
When the film gets stuck, you just give the reel a few light slaps on the side with the flat of your hand.
Don't worry, you won't fuck the film or the reel, but you will unstick the film and be able to spool it on.
May have to repeated several times throughout the loading process, as your reels get older.
>>3029793
Just order some, you won't know if it works for you before you shoot it.
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Anyone know where i can buy washi film in tokyo?
Man did I fuck this shot up.
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>>3030034
actually, i like it! all these diagonals, man. and the muted palette works very well at least for me
>>3030054
Cheers. I don't like how he's merged with the air traffic control tower. In hindsight I should have times it one step earlier so he would be half in the shadow and half out. That would've been badass....
Same roll but felt this one worked better in black and white.
Olymous OM-10
Sigma 28mm f2.8
Want to get a tetenal c-41 processing kit to dev my own film for the first time, however I'm in Aus and so can't order from BH Photo.
Any Australian's know where I can get something similar?
>>3030034
It's beautiful anon, don't be paranoid about it!
>>3030071
hope u get these girls working into "artistic" nudes
>>3029110
color house in nyc is $7 a roll for 120, can't imagine it's more than $8 for 35mm. Process only.
Volunteer at ICP or Bushwick Darkroom and use their scanners plus meet other photographers, have access to classes, and the ICP library. 100% profit.
>>3029110
Its the same in Ohio. I can imagine that they dont make much money off it anymore. Just like those little kid rides at the mall; they used to be .50 but now they charge 1.00 because what little people use it are forced to pay their prices
>>3030109
it's sold on amazon too, dunno if you guys got that yet
>>3030027
>big nosed cutie
oof
>>3030484
>>big nosed cutie
its a normal sized nose for a dog.
>>3029283
holy fuck this is nice
Lately every film thread gets less and less pictures posted the last couple have been a 10 to 1 ratio.
>>3030484
She shoots Pentax exclusively too.
I think it's motion blur.
>>3030501
Says the guy not posting any pictures.
Pentax 50mm 1.7 shot, since it was discussed in the thread, and no one else is posting any pictures.
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>>3030034
It's one of my faves in this thread, and that's considering how most of them are pretty good in the first place. Love the shadows and the geometry, great job anon!
>>3030488
HOLY FUCKING SHITTTTTTTT LMAOOOOOOOO
>>3030501
I think it's fairly understandable, since people have to wait until they develop their film and then usually dump it in the thread all at once.
I shoot ~1 roll of B&W a week, usually develop every sunday night and usually post my favorite photos from the roll that night as well. So for the rest of the week I have nothing else I want to post, but naturally I still want to contribute to discussion. I'd imagine others have similar habits
Here, have one I didn't post because it's not good
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Yo kurwa, come back dude. I'm getting my adapter ring tomorrow. At least one of the two arrived. I'm hoping it's the nice one from Portugal so I can use the 80mm on the Nikon FE. Gotta' finish the 800 Fuji reel in it, though.
>>3030564
given uv focuses further than infinity, a 80mm will have to be stopped down lots to catch stuff in its shallowish dof. unless you wanna macro flowers to have slightly different boring patterns appear. do portraits. uv portraits look stellar, like nothing else. If you need to reach me I'm over on the pee discord, for future reference.
Anyone tried using anamorphic lenses on 35mm film? Could be a neat way of getting that 'panoramic' look without having to sacrifice shots per roll
>>3030572
What is discord? You have any examples of portraits you'd be willing to post? I'm painfully eager.
If it's the 43-46mm ring that arrived, I might just skip straight to the LF, since X-ray is cheap and I have the dark room booked later this week. Only tricky part will be fitting it on a shutter, because I don't have any boards with a threaded hole for 39x0.75, and I don't have an appropriate flange anyways. I'm pretty sure the internal diameter of a copal 1 lens /is/ 39x0.75.
>>3030588
Isn't "panoramic" defined by the ratio?
>>3030590
Yeah probably. Anamorphic shots are usually expanded to 2.39:1 ratio in post-production which us usually defined as widescreen or panoramic format
scan of some cheap holidays 35mm film. It's not bad for 2 euro.
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>>3030601
>all those minecraft shadows
"No!"
dude, dont be such a jew when saving your files.
today i scored cool film from ebay. today was a good day.
>>3030501
Despite me including in the thread description to post a photo with your reply...
>>3030541
Thanks anon. Gotta love the soft, after rain light.
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>>3030608
what it was homie?
>>3030608
ebay is a gold mine for film/film camera related stuff. I guess that's the benefit of normies selling off their old film gear
>>3030601
Looks great, terrible compression shadows aside. What lenses did you use?
>>3029119
>>3029127
Hey I had a question about the 67. I just got one and I've never used one before, but my film advance lever can still move after the shutter is cocked and the film is ready to shoot, it can still rotate normally forward with slight resistance I assume that's not normal? I couldn't find anything online, the camera works completely normal besides that.
>>3030626
Some guy in here said he bought a canon SLR for like $7 a week ago. I've been looking for a good 35mm point and shoot and there's a ton of options.
>>3030626
Man, I've been eyeing some neopan 400 (also 1600 stuff). None of the auctions describe the storing conditions though...so I'm hesitant.
>>3029063
Okay so I fucking love the aesthetic of old camera film boxes, does anybody have any cool ones they'd like to share? I'm trying to collect as many as I can.
I have one I saved from an anon forever ago, let me find it real quick.
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>>3030668
here it is
>>3030704
I
uh
what
>>3030705
It's called "art", look it up you dirty plebian.
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>>3030704
>tfw the only qt girl who was willing to pose for nude pictures stopped being my friend before I could actually snap a session with her
Life is unfair.
Finished the last couple rolls from a box of Superia I bought to test out a new body. I'll dump a few scans
Going to pick up some B/W rolls tomorrow and ease my way towards self-developing for the first time. Wish me luck, I have never had much flair for black and white.
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>>3030704
kino.
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>>3030704
Interesting concept
Shot this on industrial 400 back in September. I'm trying to get back into taking photos and wanna start developing my own stuff.
My film and dev shit is all here and I can finally go out and shoot my first roll, but I'm curious how long you should keep unshot film loaded in the camera. I don't go out shooting a lot so it might take me a couple weeks to finish a roll, and we're just coming out of summer here in Aus so it's starting to simmer down but it still gets pretty hot every now and again. Will this be a problem?
>>3030750
You won't have any issues over a couple weeks.
>>3030750
As long as the casing is sealed properly, you shouldn't have any problems keeping film in there for months.
>>3029646
well if you dont use such a shit fucking camera it's gonna be a lot easier to transition
also wtf, shooting film is easy as fuck, why do you need a support group?
>>3030590
The newest online chat client flavour, /p/'s irc has been mostly phased out with various private facebook groups and a discord server: https://discord.gg/WHRHSbc It's convenient for anonymous offline keeping in contact w/o having to use emails.
Are you confident enough to nail focus with sufficient shutterspeed for a portrait subject? Do an exposure comp. testroll first, imo, walk before you run etc.
>>3030750
You're right to think of that factor, but unless you're using ilford pan F (supposedly doesnt like sitting undeveloped) or something loke delta3200 with the camera left on a sunny windowsill (fast films degrade quicker) for three months, you shouldn't ever see any difference. Have fun with your first roll and try not to be too stingy/reserved - this is when you're learning how film behaves, after all. You're likely to forget what you did/how you shot and won't be able to draw conclusions for future rolls, if you put developing off too long.
>>3030770
why do you use a trip when you have yet to produce an image that doesn't look like a 200 year old accident?
Was hyped as fuck on this roll. Came back super faded. God damn 15 year expired Provia. God damn newton rings too.
God damn the G1 is nice tho
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>>3030510
I developed some film the other day but the pics aren't very good so I figured I'd spare people from looking at them.
>>3030893
well that never stopped shitters like catsby
both pentax 50 A 1.7 and 400h
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>>3030922
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>>3030893
Maybe other people have similar excuses?
Making a post just to lament others not posting pictures, while not posting any yourself seems kind of lame.
>>3030897
Also this.
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>>3029063
are film shots all grainy? they don't look smooth like digital. i would shoot film but the grain is so ugly. not saying noise is better, but at least I can consistently shoot digital without any noise.
>>3030968
life is made of atoms, life is granular in essence. film is made of grain, millions of loving grains.
do you love life, anon?
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>>3030969
Grain looks better than noise. Also it can be effectively eliminated by the right film and a good scanner.
Took one too many bad photos on this roll.. anyone else have any more interesting mistakes?
>>3030982
Mistakes thread?
My mju sometimes puts the frames very, very close together.
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>>3030983
that is pretty interesting
>>3030987
Yeah it's strange, it's not consistent from roll to roll. Battery related maybe...not enough strength in the take up spool. Or maybe the gears are just out of line. Either way I quite liked the effect on two otherwise boring shots. The way the buildings sort of twist together to form one thing.
>>3031011
are there any film cameras that is designed that way? like, giving you a few more shots but at a 3:4 ratio for example?
>>3031016
the olympus pen takes half-35mm frame so it doubles your roll
>>3030969
thx I think I've ascended into a higher awareness
which 120 film should i buy for studio work if I want neutral colors
>>3030767
kek
>>3031027
I'll get shit on for this but Natura for high speed, ektar outdoors,and portra for studio most likely. Cinestill is also pretty good
is the pentax 645 any good for $250~
>>3031035
The electronics are jag tier unreliable
>>3031040
what about the pentax 645N or NII?? don't ask me why but I already have a couple 645 lenses.
>>3031041
I think it's time for you to jump into full format desu
>>3031041
go 6x6 or 6x7, pal. dont ask questions, just fucking do it.
OP deliver those 3D gifs you pussy ass faget.
>>3031047
>not going 6x24
>>3030668
The old Tmax boxes are pretty dope
>>3031074
>no shooting exclusively 11x6 on ADOX CMS II
>>3030770
Here she is. Now I have to finish this Fujipro 800 bullshit in there before I use it.
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>>3031079
>>3031107
>gear
>investment
>>3031108
Sold a Leica M6 for 25% more than I bought it for after two years of ownership.
Wallstreet can eat my ass till the sun explodes, I'm making the real investments over here
>>3031111
Sold my Mamiya 6 for an extra $500 after 4 years of ownership.
I've also made an extra $600 flipping cameras since January.
If you know gear it can totally be an investment.
>>3031055
Been too busy to shoot with that camera still. I'll load it up with a 24exp roll tonight and shoot some stuff tomorrow.
Her's some expired as fuck Provia. Check out that vsco-esque fade.
>>3029549
Last roll I got back from them, the photos were 3583 (W) x 2376 (H) - JPEGs at a little over 6 MB per file.
compact camera beer tiers
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>>3031196
is the Olympus stylus good?
>>3031198
The epic is great. If you can get one in good condition for <$150 go for it.
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>>3031055
not OP but here is one I took with mine, also have a nimslo to try
>>3031208
haaaa nice!
>>3031206
is that van der rohe's pavillion?
>>3031245
dw im retarded
>>3030982
>>3030983
these are so cool.
here's a missed focus I ended up somewhat enjoying
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>>3031295
sorry, forgot to resize.
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First time posting on /p/. Some great recent gear acquisitions have inspired me to shoot again.
Dad shooting on a Mamiya I believe
Sorry, some of these haven't been touched up quite yet. Just got a new scanner but don't have the dough for postprocessing software just yet :/
>>3031317
is that really the kind of thing you have to buy?
>>3031317
Damn dude I wouldn't be too happy with this scan at all. It's not a postprocessing thing it's just the scanner hasn't resolved any detail at all. I'm assuming this is 35mm film on a flatbed.
Also just pirate photoshop/lightroom and be done with it. Fuck paying adobe's extortionate prices
>>3031196
Where's the one liter can and two liter jug?
pentax zoom 90 wr or minolta sightseer zoom? which one to choose?
>>3031317
Cs2 is free you ding dong
Is minolta xg1 and 50mm f1.7 for 65 euros a good deal?
pic rell. the camera
>>3031450
You can generally find a Minolta for slightly cheaper than that on Ebay but I guess it's worth it for the lenses.
By the way, speaking on Minolta, I just found out my father has a Dynax 404si around the house and he pretty much just inherited it to me since he also became a digipleb and gives it no use. Is this camera any good? It's bundled in an old bag with two lenses, an AF-28-80 and a 70-210.
Posted in another thread but thought it should go here seen as this was film. Looking for thoughts/critique
1/2
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>>3031614
2/2
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>>3031450
I paid 30€ for the same set off some gypsies on a flea market
>>3031614
I like this. Looks little bit surreal. Bit curious how did you achieve this?
>>3030742
nice breasts
>>3031579
Hmmm, interesting, I've got the Dynax 5 my gf left me before she moved abroad and I have no idea how much their worth.
On ebay they've sold anywhere between 20 - 60 £.
>>3031625
Ilford xp2 400.
Saw the composition, focused on the graffiti and took the shot. F/4 OR 5.6 if I remember correctly, Can't remember exactly how I did it.
>>3031579
>70-210
if thats the one with an f4 aperture, its seen as a fairly legendary lens. Just google minolta beercan.
Congrats, man.
>>3031650
Oh it's completely different now on my other device, first I looked at it, everything on right were plain black that created this surreal look. Weird..
So develop your own film and scan using epson v500?
>>3031325
Well it was Tri-X 400 shot at sunset at 1/60, so it might just be pushed too far to retain much detail.
>>3031658
we probably all do this.. except for maybe the 4 autistic retards that think their diy hobo dslr scanning rigs work better....
velvia 100
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>>3031705
Nice.
>>3031579
Plastic AF Meneltas are remorseless trash.
If it works, of course it is capable of some excellent photos, I'm sure.
However, they have a number of issues that put them at the bottom of the pile.
>they almost never work
>because they're made of shitty plastic, when the lenses dry out and get stiff, the tiny motor for the screwdriver AF runs out of puff, kills camera/battery
>they all take retarded lithiums
>they often lack normal PASM exposure modes
>they rely on LCDs and pushbuttons and menudiving to change settings, rather than dials or scroll wheels
>in the real world, there are no lenses except trashy consumer zooms
If you have to resort to ebay to find a basic 50mm for your camera, that's the surest sign that it's consumer tier fucking garbage.
>and yes, that includes you AF pentax
The Canon EOS range are the only plastic AF SLR's I would recommend in 2017.
The all-electric lense mount has stood the test of time, and practically every EOS SLR you will find is fully featured, and simple and intuitive to use.
>>3031658
I develop myself, I scan 120 on a V550 but I scan 35mm on a Plustek 7400. The flatbed gives much worse results for 35mm, if you're only doing 35mm I would pick a dedicated scanner like the Plustek over a flatbed. I really, really tried several times to nigger rig a DSLR scanning rig and it was just absolutely not worth the effort but you're welcome to try it.
>>3029152
Great shot
>>3029643
Agfa vista 100 is rebranded Fuji, I think it's superia. I'm sure if you google you can find out which, then look that up. I'm sure you'll find some comments on it, it's been around long enough.
I've used it a bit over the last 3 or years, maybe around 200 rolls. Haven't had very much developed but a few strays have popped up. No immediate complaints, though only done basic scans of each frame to act as a contact sheets of sorts. Definatly reminds me more of Fuji low end neg, more muted colours & possibly less sharp, not so sure of that yet though.
It's the only realistic choice for me at the moment, so I'm hoping as I gradually process my stuff I'm not disappointed.
>>3031686
>except for maybe the 4 autistic retards that think their diy hobo dslr scanning rigs work better
>>3031579
Toss those zoom lenses in a garbage bin and get a 50mm or something. You'd still be way better off with a manual MD body. There's a reason why Minolta AF bodies are worth fucking nothing.
>>3031856
this is wrong
>>3031736
Cheers!
>>3031835
Hey thanks for the info. it's an auction with a buy it now for $100. I may put in a max bid of $50 and see what happens.
Anyone ever shoot Fuji Trebi 100C? Just coped 10 rolls for a steal. Some people seem to claim its consumer Sensia, while others say it's consumer Provia. Hoping it's warmer than Provia.
should i Yashica mat 124g or just yashica mat or yashica mat 124 (not g)?
Stupid question here. The Ilford Rapid fixer bottle says dilution is 2.5 Litres (1+4) or 5 Litres (1+9), I only need 500ml of working solution so which dilution do I use?
>>3031901
I have, it's great. People who claim x is y usually would do better to shut their mouths. Not wildly different from the Astia and Astia F I shot at the same time.
>>3029110
developing your own film is relatively easy. If you're in New York, Adorama ships cheap. Start with black and white film, which is very forgiving, and work your way up to color. It's vitally important to get a daylight tank.
C41 is not so hard; the thing of most importance is to keep the temperature consistent. Fortunately they make these complicated contraptions called "thermometers"...
>>3029183
depends on the kind of scanner you use. An Epson V370 is cheap as fuck and produces acceptable results, but naturally, the more you spend the better the end result. Of course you also have to make sure your negatives are cleaned when you scan them.
Snapshit related. You can see the result of not properly cleaning scanning surface in the little white dust particles on the image. Sometimes it can get far worse.
>>3031923
Ah cool, thanks for the info. Astia is beautiful stuff, will be happy if it is similar.
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>>3030510
reminds me of the deer at nara
>>3031910
bump
>>3031910
The 1+4 dilution is for film. The 1+9 dilution is for paper.
Use the 1+4 of if you're developing film. 100ml of fixer, 400ml of water.
Don't dump the fixer when you've used it as it can be re-used for quite awhile.
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>>3032025
Mixing from the concentrate when you're going to use it is a good idea for longevity. Same goes for developers that come in concentrate form
>>3032028
Truth.
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>>3032025
Thanks a lot mate
>>3032035
What tank do you need 500ml for? Paterson tank for 1x120 reel?
>>3032036
Yeah that's the one
>>3032013
Dude, I would barely call that dusty at all.
If you're going to scan a whole roll, or god forbid a dozen of them, sperging out cleaning your negs more than a quick once over wipe is a total waste of your time.
Consider that of your 36, there are probably only going to be 10, 15 tops that you would want to edit to a presentation standard, that's about 30 seconds of work with a healing brush to fix per frame, whereas peering into every scanner surface every frame to eliminate all visible contaminants, and still having to go ahead and select the healing tool and click it a few times for the bits you missed? That shit will shorten your life.
Perfect neg cleaning is for printing only.
I can develop these with Tetenal, right?
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>>3032078
Are you for serious?
No, is the answer.
just got pic rel for cheap. is it any good?
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>>3032078
You have some ISO 2-4 black and white slide film there now.
Want to send me a roll?
I need 16mm for my Kiev 303m
>>3032111
Yeah, I could send you a roll.
I was drunk on eBay and thought I was buying Tri-X. Not the best €200 I ever spent.
How do I get in touch with you?
>>3032116
I realised my mistake right away actually but figured I'd learn a valuable lesson if I let it go through. I'll read the listings more carefully in the future.
I've got strange problems with a sort of bleeding coming from my sprocket holes. It seems to happen when shooting in very low light, but doesn't effect every frame uniformly so I'm thinking dev issues rather than light leaks in my camera. Any ideas?
Pics 1/2 showing it.
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>>3032132
2/2 showing how it's sometimes present even when it's not visible in a basic scan. Maybe something to do with both these being underexposed? The majority of this roll is completely unaffected, including some other ones shot at night.
>>3032020
Good, it is
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>>3032132
>>3032135
3/2 showing the neg, weird black bits on the edge.
Ilford Pan 400 pushed to 800 in ID-11. Fixer problems?
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>>3032142
Most likely an agitation issue.
>>3032144
Too high a frequency, or too vigorous? Any reason why it would only be visible on a few frames rather than across the entire roll? They're not grouped together either.
>>3032111
Yeah, I just shot some at iso 12 and developed it in 1+100 Rodinal. Definitely need to expose it more than that.
I'll think of something stupid to use it for. Or maybe just give it away to guys like you one roll at a time.
>>3032145
A bit of both and maybe also simply too uniform. Try mixing it up with some rotating etc. instead of just the same up/down motion all the time.
>>3030897
I'd hate to be compared to him.
>>3030962
Posting snapshits on a photography board also seems kind of lame, in my opinion.
But here you go. Some Lomography Orca 100 shot in my very first camera; a Kodak Instamatic 92.
The spots are in almost every frame so I guess they're a fault in the lens. I don't mind them.
I was going to reload the cassettes with Tri-X but accidentally bought something else. I have some 16 mm Purple I can put in them, though.
Did you ever shoot that? Lomography brand Purple? Hmm?
>>3032149
Yeah, posted a bunch of them in my last thread.
Didn't really enjoy the film all that much, but thank you very much for it :)
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>>3032152
I'm just glad it was put to use. I half expected you had thrown it out.
Velvia 100 6x9
I should try and reshoot this with a CPL to avoid the reflection maybe.
Oh shit!
Oh shit!!!!
There's now a countdown clock for Ferrania shit shop!
According to their timer, the site opens on March 13th. Get your checkbooks ready, this is going to be one fascinating ripoff.
>>3032184
A film is a terrible thing to waste
>inb4
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>>3032216
You can't blame the film for the terrible exposure. What did you shoot this with?
>>3032147
Nice one, cheers. I'll give it a go next time I'm developing. Is there some reason why uniform agitation would cause that?
>>3031196
>olympus xa
hawww yeeeee boi. im finishing off a test roll in mine at the moment and trying to find a decent lab where i live.
>>3032249
more developer forced through/around the sprocket holes and their proximity - developer is a fluid and you're rotating the spool, fluid dynamics and flow rates apply, in this case spectacularly, as visual artifacts. But googling "developer sprocket holes" would tell anyone ITT as much, and more.
>>3032113
>Not the best €200 I ever spent.
oh shit niqqa, I'd be on suicide watch after that
>>3031902
Depends how badly you want a lightmeter. I have the plain Yashica Mat, it's never let me down.
>>3032285
i dont. i meter with my digishit.
>>3032286
you can't really go wrong then, go after the best deal. they're all basically the same.
>>3032217
Yashica Electro 35 GSN, at ISO 100
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was given a roll of this as a gift, not sure what the best application for it is
I was thinking of going out with it around sunset. what do you think?
So I landed myself a 70mm film survey camera in an auction. Zeiss lenses. Looks neat. Thing's in okay condition. Is 70mm film still made? All I see is expired stock on ebay.
>>3032308
where is dis?
>>3032205
Did the poor guy knew you were creeping up on him? Great shot either way.
>>3029063
1/4
>>3032339
2/4
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>>3032341
3/4
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>>3032342
4/4
>>3032132
Most likely a light leak from the back of the camera. I had the same with a Ricoh
First roll through it?
Development issues or excess agitation and swirl turbulence from sprocket holes look different
>>3032342
Please teach me anon senpai, where do you get good bokeh? I've been wanting to make some similar experiments but it's pretty complicated to find a proper location with enough lights for that, what were you shooting there?
>>3032366
get a lens that has an aperture around 1.8 or something, you can make a bokeh stencil. use a light source like a street light, traffic light or some christmas lights. it was some christmas lights the light source was only the christmas lights
>>3032371
>Saw a minolta SRT-101 with a 58mm 1.7 lens and a 135mm lens for $140
>gonna take chances and wait till last day of estate sale to purchase for $70
>thought to Minolta SRT 200 was better cause im a fucking noob
>purchased it 45mm lens, and a 80-200mm lens for $41.00 on ebay
F stop to 2.0
should I have just saved my money that i have to buy on film, battery, scanner, dark room DIY shit and bought a good 35mm lens for my canon T3 or am I going the good route starting to develop my own film
I feel like I didnt make a good purchase and kind of regret and it after realized i had to buy all this other stuff and im overwhelmed with the idea of photography now. Please tell me I did something right.
>>3032314
It's god tier for night time street photos. Usable in daylight and has very fine grain for its speed, but the colors become washed out when shot in bright conditions.
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>>3032343
> dat comfy grain
>>3032486
You would have overpayed with $140 for the SRT-101, which is the oldest of the SRT line. SRT-200 was a budget model of its day, but has all the features you need. The f/2 45mm is a great lens, the zoom is probably crap but you paid essentially nothing for it anyway. You can get the essentials for home developing for less than $100, the scanner is the only expensive thing remaining that you will need. Although many libraries and universities have film scanners that can be booked for free. I don't recommend getting a dedicated scanner right off the bat, a flat top like Epson V550 is fine for the job. Even $100 flat tops typically can scan 35mm film, but the results aren't that stellar. Whatever gets you started.
>>3032497
see I already own a Canon T3. Was it a good idea to get the starter model for $40 and work my way up?
i feel like I have two starter models of two different types of photography now. I guess I just wanted something better. but I guess Ill learn all film photography on this. Thanks for the input. I assumed the 200 wasnt as great tier, I went and looked at flickr groups between the two different lens (45mm on the 200 and 58 1.7 on the 101) and the 58mm photos overall looked miles better, or is that just niche flickr group
My Minolta X-300 just broke, light leaks everywhere. Is it worth buying another one or replacing it with another SLR?
Pic related, is snapshits with light leaks.
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>>3032501
...or just fix the lightleak instead of buying a new camera?
>>3032321
Don't tell anyone about it, it's a secret spot
>>3032501
Or just tape over it, geez...
>>3032500
>>3032486
Meneltas are always fucking garbage, but as long as your one isn't broken, it may be the only film camera you ever need.
The 45mm makes it a much more portable camera anyway, and the speed you lose compared to the 50mm is pretty trifling.
Stop overthinking whether or not you made the "best" purchase; you have the tools you need, now go to work.
Would I get anywhere near the same amount of that "depth" look you get with medium format cameras out of 6x45 as opposed to 6x7 or 6x9?
Tossing up which format to go for.
Technically I'd prefer the extra shots of 6x45 and the smaller bodies, but if that medium format look you get is significantly better in 6x7/6x9 then I might go for that.
Keeping in mind I won't print larger than 30cm on the long side.
pic related is the camera I'm thinking about going for.
Hey is there anyway to convert a canon ae-1 to a full analogue/manual camera?
>>3032600
>>3032600
>>3032600
Whilst that is an excellent camera and I highly recommend it, 60mm and f/4 on 645 won't knock you out with it's shallow depth of field. At all. It's a street/landscape/travel camera, not for portraiture.
For comparison, here's a shot wide open with the 75/3.5 lensed version of that very cam.
With good technique, and post processing, you will still get visible subject separation even at medium distances and middle apertures, but it's nothing to compare to 80/2.8 on 6x6, let alone anything longer or on a bigger format.
>>3032603
Ummmm what?
>>3032319
For better context, it's an agiflite.
guys, which one is better, scanning negatives or scanning developed photos ?
>>3032649
wat
>>3032652
come on, which one will scan better image ?
>>3032680
yeah i've been thinking about getting into films but it's kind of meaningless if i can't put it in my computer. turns out that the easiest scanning method is the best. okay then, negative scanner it is
how good for a P&S is an olympus superzoom 105g?
>>3032589
how is it garbage? A lot of people said they were great cameras
>it may be the only film camera you ever need.
you just said it was garbage
>menelta
minolta
>Stop overthinking whether or not you made the "best" purchase; you have the tools you need, now go to work.
but I dont want to be limited by the 45mm lens
and spend all this fucking money and they dont look that great
>>3032328
Thanks.
The "poor guy" knows the window is there. He does it work there because he knows it attracts attention (he's a goldsmith).
I'm sure a few tourists snap him every day.
Here's another snapshit. I forget if I already posted this once.
>>3032623
I'm going to Peru this summer, and looking at the GS645 75mm. At that focal length, since it's closer to a normal lens, will I be able to do a mix of both?
>>3032791
>both
portraits and landscapes
Fucking love Gold 200.
anyone here has used the Chinon CM-5? concretely, the 50mm 1.9 auto chinon lens?
>>3032844
You can just buy felt and glue for super cheap? Much cheaper than even the very bottom end SLRs. You don't have to get someone else to do it, there are loads of guides online.
>>3032848
Yeah, the light leak is right next to the film when it's pulled over the sensor. If I put anything there it catches and the film mangles inside the camera.
I do appreciate everyone's input, and I'll certainly try to fix it in future but I would appreciate some reccomendations.
>>3032603
That's what it is..?
>>3032862
Film pulled over the sensor? I'm not following, could you post a picture that shows clearly what you mean.
>>3032780
>>it may be the only film camera you ever need.
>you just said it was garbage
No, menelta is correct.
It's garbage with reference to other cameras available with a similar prevalence and cost. That however doesn't mean that it can't hold a lense in front of a piece of film, give you a means to focus it, and expose it for an amount of time of your choosing, which is all anyone really needs a camera to do.
The 45mm is absolutely fine, trust me. Many professionals shoot their entire careers with "worse" lenses.
The "limitations" of the menelta are that it's huge, weighs a tonne, has an awful viewfinder, has a limited metering range, only mounts fucking menelta lenses, has a janky zenit-tier cloth shutter.
>>3032952
>No, menelta is correct.
but
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minolta
>>3032589
also
why am I spending over $200 to get started developing film for a shit lens when I could simply get a canon 50mm 1.4 for $250 and shoot with that and get very similiar results, just not develop film
>>3032862
Um in film cameras the film is the sensor. Do you mean the shutter curtain?
Hi new to film, I'm looking for a good film camera would the Ricoh xr-2s do?
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>>3033057
Well I was told it will cost around $100 for DIY developing shit then another $100 for a scanner
so $200
>>3032623
I intend to use it mainly for street architecture based photography, so a super shallow DOF isn't entirely necessary in that regard. I just want something that gives more depth that MF is known for.
Pic related was shot on a GS645S, similar to what I shoot and what I'm after.
>>3033031
Holy shit I just read back over my post and I worded that horribly. I was very tired.
Okay basically there's the plate that pushes the film against the shutter curtain bit I guess, the light leak is coming from the bottom of the plate.
I've taped the outside of it and underneath the camera on the outside. The problem with this is that the tape comes off, and additionally to wind back the film it blocks the release button. Either way I end up with light leaks.
If I put it on the inside of the camera it catches on the film and mangles it.
>>3033318
You do realize that the image is projected upside down on the film? So if your light leak shows on the bottom of the photo, you have to tape the upper part of the door.
>>3033957
I am mentally retarded.
>>3033057
Yeah, that cost sounds about right for developing stuff and scanner