Be honest /p/, is this the king of 35mm film cameras?

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sure the Nikon F, F2, and F3HP are the undisputed kings of SLRs.
but the M3 is the king of 35mm

>>3028766
Contax is better

>>3028766
>Those fugly lips around the windows

M4 > M2 > M3

>>3028766
>m3
>king o 35mm
>no 35mm frame
TOP KEK!

M2 is better and cheaper if you don't need a meter.

>>3028746

Probably; I love mine. They're built like goddamn heavy artillery though, so if you're chucking it in a backpack with a modest amount of stuff in it already, a Nikon F usually tips it over the edge to 'annoyingly heavy'.

Still, fantastic camera. Worth it for all the little mechanical noises alone.

>>3028746
I haven't played with many Nikons, but I got my first Nikon FE the other week. Holy fuck, it's miles apart from my old Canon-AE1; the feeling of holding a real camera made of BRASS, the tactile dials and levers, the overall design... It's just a work of art.

Getting a Nikon SLR, be it FE, FM, F or whatever, for under 100£ in great condition is absolutely a steal.

>>3028853

OP here, I have an FE as well and I agree, it's an outstanding camera that you can usually find really cheap. I love the built-in feature for double exposure.

>Canon-AE1

kek, why is this like the most common film camera that most people get? Not giving you shit, anon, just speaking on the camera. I've seen so many normie "35mm is so vintage" faggots use this camera and pretend like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Always found it amusing.

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fm3a is the pinnacle of what it means to be a film camera

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>>3028860

Fuck, that's beautiful.

>>3028857
>why is this like the most common film camera that most people get?

I'm very surprised you're asking this question.

Canon AE-1 is by no means a shit camera, it was just mass-produced in the 80s and marketed extremely well. It just lacks features and design features found in Nikons.

I got for £20 in a yard sale, so I don't exactly think that is a terrible deal at all, combined with decent glass - I took a lot of good snaps with it.

I totally get why people go for it; 1) it's everywhere, 2) Cheap, so it's not a massive commitment 3), simple to use. Combine the first two points and it's going to be a film SLR that people will be exposed to the most. Nikon goes ballsdeep into weird nomenclature of models and their differences.

I used the AE-1 for 5 years, and after "gitting gud" I decided to graduate from this amateur camera, to something more serious.

Most "normies" don't have a fucking clue what the differences are between brands, or care. I've seen people go up to those vintage shop jews and ask for "the camera that can take black and white photos", only to be met with sneering and eye rolling. I love it when more normies and vintage-trendwhores get on the scene, it means I can shill my old stuff and make basically all my money back.

>>3028860
Absolute beauty, and I'd agree

>>3028868
>I'm very surprised you're asking this question.

Never knew about the mass-production, and I asked because I've met at least two dozen people in the last few years who said they own an AE-1 whenever the topic of photography came up. It started to become a pattern. Thanks for the info.

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>>3028872
they didnt have anyone sensible in their lives to tell them to get a pentax

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I've bought and sold a bunch of film cameras and these are the ones I can't get rid of. Leica M3 is a close competitor too, but I prefer SLRs.

>>3028860
I can't get used to that modern font on an old-style body

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>>3028746
No, Anon.

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>>3029030
>
Can't speak for the FM3A but the new F-1 is about as good as it gets. Only con is the lack of a fully mechanical shutter (all the fast speeds are mechanical tho).

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>>3028972
Fuck, the F3HP is just too good. If it had 1/4000s would be the most perfect manual 35mm film camera ever made. Sometimes I want to use f1.4 outdoors.

>exposure lock
>lcd meter
>A mode
>Mirror lock up
>waist level finder
>compatible with non AI lenses

I would swap it just for a F2 because of muh mechanical.

>>3029100
>tfw the F3 is too old to get the 1/4000 metal mechanical shutter the FM2/FE2 got
fug. Also that retarded hot shoe.
>tfw the F4 never got a F4X model like the F90 with a cross type point so it doesn't suck at AF

>>3029108
>Also that retarded hot shoe
Yes, it's pretty retarded but since I use only PC sync for flahs I can get over it.

It's a tie between the Leica M3 and Nikon F3, just a matter of taste. Undisputable. Close seconds Canon F1 and Olympus OM1

There's no such thing as the """"perfect""" camera.

>>3028746
What difference does the camera make when it comes to film?

>>3029128
More like:

>I'm new to photography and I haven't shot with more than 2 shit cameras my entire life so therefore no camera out there is better.

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Call me a pleb, but I've had this baby for 3 years now and have 0 desire to ever shoot another 35mm camera

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>>3029163
For film cameras, things like shutter speed and shooting modes were really big deals. Beyond that, lens availability.

>>3029258
In my book you've won. Gear lust festers into gear faggotry and that prevents you from ever leaving the house and taking any actual photos.

>>3029257
Better is diferent from "perfect". Perfect is subjective. You can compare cameras by their specs.

Someone can argue that a rangefinder has advantages over a SLR but for others a SLR is better.

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Recently got a Nikon F2 Photomic to start out my film photography learning curve. Really nice camera. Pic related

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>>3029258
That Minolta is a joy

>>3028791
>>3028837
M3 has the glorious .91 finder and double stroke
M2 & M4 pleb tier .72 finder meh single stroke
M6 + decent .85 finder option

quick loading is the only thing more modern leicas do better than the M3. even then the M3 isnt that difficult to load.

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>>3029352
What's the point of having a big .91 finder if I can't use a 35mm lens?

The M3 goggles are awful

>>3029296
>Someone can argue that a rangefinder has advantages over a SLR

Besides size and noise, rangefinders are wank. I say this from owning a rangefinder and just being put off by the limitations, and if you have a rangefinder with a shitty patch and no metering, forget about it.

>>3029396
This!
While you can focus and compose with almost any SLR pretty easily, it's pain in the ass with cheaper rangefinders.

>>3029352
>.91 finder
I have A Konica IIIA that has a 100% coverage finder and actually adjusts the frame lines to reflect the change in perspective that comes from focusing the lens.

Sure the lens is fixed (50 1.8) but at least I didn't pay $1500 for a camera I can't afford the lens for.

>>3028860
Finder isn't particularly big or bright
Shutter sounds super clunky, not smooth at all
The film advance is rachety and having to cock it before every shot is annoying af

Overall it's ok but the shooting experience isn't great

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>>3029367
35 is just a sloppy 50 for quick shooting
just use 50 frame lines, get your composition close enough and crop as needed in the darkroom.

if you want to shoot wide shoot wide

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>>3029398
But people like rangefinders because you can see out of the frame. This, the compact desing and quiet shutter are the benefits of a rangefinder over a SLR.

The SLR on the other hand has better metering, faster shutter speed, more lenses and the focus depends only on your eyes.

>>3029423
>because you can see out of the frame

So? I can do that with SLR cameras too. I just can't see these "benefits" outweighing a solid SLR. I'm selling my canonet to some chump - it's not a bad camera it's just that it's such a fucking chore to use:

- Focusing patch is awful, non existent in low light.
- Stupid batteries, you need to either meter with a separate device or jury-rig the thing, which isn't hard, but it doesn't feel right.
- Metering is a joke

Come to think of it, it's actually OK. Just those 3 things make the experience a bit cack-handed. I like the quality of the lens, and the completely noise-less operation. It was also fun to carry around.

I bought a Nikon FE recently, and it's like a total dream - completely usable and fun - like a camera should be.

Thoughts on the Canon A1? I know the AE-1 was getting shat on earlier. But I quite like the A1

>>3029432
Pretty much same reasons for me so I tried out OM-1 and I simply love to use it.

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>>3029423
>The SLR on the other hand has better metering,
only really once you get into moderns SLRs like the F4 and newer. Otherwise it is centre weight like everything else
>faster shutter speed,
plenty of SLRs have the same limitations in shutter speed. and 1/4000 vs 1/2000, meh
>more lenses
zooms sure, they don`t exist on rangefinders but prime options are far greater for something like the M mount
and the focus depends only on your eyes.
seeing the focus patch on any decent rangefinder is just as good if not better than SLR focusing. only people who have only used shitty canonettes and feds believe this

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>>3029128
this is true, Every camera has its pros and cons. I'm one of those people that can't stick with any one camera for too long, but that was me always buying and selling digital gear and eventually just sticking to film

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>>3029352
Nikon SP has 1.0x magnification finder and 28/35mm framelines. Nikon made a limited series reproduction of this camera in 2005.

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>>3029404
>I have A Konica IIIA that has a 100% coverage finder
oh honey, you don't even know what you're talking about.
.91 is the degree of image magnification in the viewfinder compared to real life, not the amount of the frame you see.
The smaller the number, the wider the view through the finder is.
So the .72 finder has 28mm framelines, whereas the .91 M3 only has 50mm, hence the need for the retarded goggle attachment in>>3029367 if you want to shoot a 35mm lense.
Leicafags also believe in this meme called "effective base length", which is taking the base length of the rangefinder mechanism (the distance between the RF and VF windows, and therefore the length of the short side of the imaginary scalene triangle formed when you align the images in the viewfinder) and multiplying it by the viewfinder magnification.
Of course the "actual" rf base length is the only thing that matters for focusing accuracy, and only blind cunts will deny this.
>Zeiss Ikon uber alles

>>3029432
>I bought a Nikon FE recently, and it's like a total dream - completely usable and fun - like a camera should be.
>>3029423
>Pretty much same reasons for me so I tried out OM-1 and I simply love to use it.

In all things we see the wisdom of the based God Kenneth prevail.
For yea, verily, he spake thus: For serious photography, any old Nikon FM is just as good as a LEICA. It's all about the simplicity to allow you to concentrate on the picture and not the camera.
>http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/simplicity.htm
Know your scripture, children.

>>3029604
Kenneth Of Rockwell guided me towards the FE, Not FE2, not FM3A - the FE. Simplicity at it's best and that it needed to go no further.

>>3029404
God tier if you're ok with a fixed normal lens and 1/500s top speed
>dat leaf shutter
>dat life sized brightline finder

>>3029352
>>3029367
>>3029417
How does the M6 TTL metering works?

>>3029634
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+does+the+M6+TTL+metering+works%3F

>>3029596
The Konica has a 1.0x finder.

>>3029686
I already did that, senpai.

I just want to how it meters through the lens since it doesn't have a mirror inside, just the shutter and film plane.

>>3029712
If you were sitting in front of me, and said
>i already did that, senpai
I would use a paperweight to turn your face into a concave bowl of raw offal.
There's a white spot on the shutter.
A light meter with a little lense on it mounted inside the camera points backwards at that white spot and reads the light reflecting off it.

Nah my m5 is.

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Nikon F5.

The Muscle car of the camera world.

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Demonstrably the one true king.

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>>3029743
This

>>3029745
>autofocus only
>tiny squinty finder
close but nah

>>3029774
>autofocus or manual
>finder automatically adjusts to the better-than-Leica lens you have fitted
yeah

>>3029743
Aye, the F5 does take the cake.

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>>3029634
the M6 and M6 ttl both read the reflected light off the little gray spot on the shutter. it`s kind of like a mini spot meter in the body aimed at this bit on the shutter cloth.
the only real difference between the two is that thew ttl has ttl flash metering. Also the m6ttl has the fuckhuge shutter dial that rotates the wrong way making it the 3nd worst Leica for film shooters, behind the M7 and M5.
Digifags like it because the new leicas have the same dial

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>>3029743
I generally respect your opinion Burt but the F6 is more advanced and has a removable grip.
Too bad it came out just as Digital was becoming affordable

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>>3029854
>>3029634
fun fact
the OM2 used a similar system

>>3029745
>expensive as fuck
>AF
>all eletronic
>f2

>>3029745
for actually using it and not drooling over specsheets, this

>>3029783
>>autofocus or manual
You mean autofocusing or scale focusing.
G Contax = glorified P&S.
Have you ever tried to use one in the dark?
>waving it in front of your face for 30 seconds ever time you go to shoot cos you cant even see light through the finder unless you pupil is directly lined up with it
That's a tiny finder m8.

>>3029857
>similar
You mean
>vastly superior?

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>>3029875
>>3029872
>>3029783
>>3029774
>>3029745
>perfect camera on paper
>ultimate camera nerd camera
>better than leica in every way
>except in over all usability
>expensive as fuck
>no one but collectors own this camera longer than 6 months
>can get newer versions of all lenses + more in M mount

Meh

>>3029881
>expensive as fuck

You can get a g1 and 45mm for 400 total and then you're set

>>3029883
An anon in those thrift store threads got a working body very cheap they sold it as broken.

Always bring batteries when shoping for old cameras.

>>3029883
> G1

That's shit, people want the G2.

>>3029930
It's 80% of the g2 for a fraction of the cost

The real asset is those insanely good cheap lenses

>>3029440
The A-1 is a great camera. Honestly, the three hallmark models of the A series are all really good cameras, it just so happens that hipsters/idiots latched onto the AE-1 because like >>3028868 said everyone and their mother had an AE-1 or AE-1P back in the day. The A-1 is just harder to come by because it was a pro camera with a pro price tag, so fewer people know much about them or have experience with them.

>>3029937
you've clearly never used one
the viewfinder is straight trash and the auto focus only works well in strong light
yeah the lenses are good but it's really not worth it
the T2 is as much better camera because it has a much better finder, its smaller and the auto focus is much better even in low light

oh and the G2 is much better than the G1 but for the price you would be better off getting a m4-2, bessa or a hexar rf

>>3029953
I've used one for about 3 or 4 rolls now. The VF is small but I find it really comfortable. I've also shot a roll entirely at night and the af only missed once out of the 14 shots that I wasn't just using manual focus

I'd like to pick up the 21mm

If we're talking slr's, I'd like to point out the OM-3T(i).

>ctrl-f
>Canon T90
>0 results found

sure is proletariat in here.

>>3030373
No plastic shit allowed pls.

Only real metal.

>>3030377

>real metal
>body is made of magnesium and covered in plastic shell

>>3030406
What is your point? It looks like one of those cameras you find at the bottom of a bargain bin in a flea market.

I'm sure it shoots fine, but it looks like absolute arse.
Also, it seems like it can't stand the test of time unlike a fully mechanical Nikon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_T90#Use_today

Look at the shopping list of things that break on it. Plastic fantastic dogshit mate. Sorry.

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I think om system one of the best. It have exelent zuiko lenses. Leica can't into tele. Nikon have bests bodys but bad glasses. Canon in the middle.

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>>3030427

currious what do you use the tele's for ?

>>3030429

upskirt shots

>>3030427
>Nikon glass is bad

Come on friendpai, you know that's not true.

Nice case doe.

>>3030427
OЛOЛOЛЛO УEБOК И CЮДA ПPOCAЧИЛCЯ, COCИ ХУИ, ДEД

>>3030429
When i need objects on the scene and on background be similar size. When i need narrow-angle perspective. When i need to shoot sports or aviashows.
Are you upset, leicofag?

>>3030465
perhaps 6mm and noct-nikkor, but others focal lengths on the others systems are more better I think.
>Nice case doe.
Thanks! I looked for him long time and have bought in Germany. About lens, my favorites 3 is 21/2, 40/2 and 100/2.

>>3029856
Yeah, I know, but for price to quality ratio - F5

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>>3030427
MЫ БУДEM CTPOИTЬ PУCCКИЙ MИP, ДEД, БУДEM CTPOИTЬ PУCCКИЙ MИP.

>>3030496

Already had an F5 but found a mint condition one today for $200 CAD.

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>>3030427
>Nikon have bests bodys but bad glasses.
TOP KEK!

>>3030508
but is true

>>3030473
>Are you upset, leicofag?

no I'm not him? I just wanted to know lmao damn.

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Been shooting this for 25+ years. I'll shoot it until my hands dont work anymore. My undisputed king.

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>>3030472
>>3030504

>English motherfucker
>Mozhete li vy govorit' na etom yazyke?

>>3030621
You're still here? I assumed you left years ago. I've lurked a bit over the last 3-4 years but never saw you here

>>3030631
occasional visits.

>>3030638
I love you, don't leave us

>>3030620
nice cron ... second gen, no close focus?

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I got an FE a couple of months ago, having been using an F almost exclusively for the past four or so years. The F was just a little too heavy sometimes to lug around, and (being an archaeologist) I didn't want to take it out on site too much, since it's in such good condition.

Don't get me wrong, the FE is brilliant. But I still prefer the F. It's just a better camera I think.

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>>3030971
When I shoot with my F2, I keep thinking "I should shoot more with my F2". With a soft release button it's the mirror, iris, and shutter actuate like they were trying to break themselves. The F3's mechanicals are nothing in comparison, a weak "fwap" like what a Mamiya 645 does, and its button is both completely linear and frustratingly stiff.

Too bad its meter only works reliably above EV5 at ISO100. But hey, manual mode is for men.

>>3030985
Well, it's a matter of taste. I prefer the precise eletronic shutter button of the F3. The sound of the mirror flaping inside is not like the F1 or F2 but still feels solid.

>>3030620

This is how a film Leica should look.

I remember when I was in Japan in a film shop there was a digi-leicafag getting his noctilux from being cleaned or whatever and the camera tech had to wear white velvet gloves to handle the lens in front of the customer as he watched intently every motion the tech would make. It was being put in a perfectly crafted completely humidity controlled cherrywood box with custom foam insert which was then wrapped in a velvet bag, then put into another box.

Just. Why.

>>3031081
Kek! richfags are a cancer.

>>3030620

What model is this? Don't know much about Leicas

>>3030971

My man. I own the same two bodies and they're both great.

>>3031139
M4 probably.

>>3030971

Both are great. I had an FE, I miss it now, but it's beautifully simple. No bullshit, a 60/40 CW analog meter, obvious ergonomics, and the only two PASM modes you actually need.

>>3031081
And not a single picture was taken that day.

(Or ever).

>>3031286
>implying someone who buys a noctilux will take the risk of scratching it with a grain of dust carried by the wind while taking candid shots on the streets

>>3031335
This is why collectors and especially Leica """collectors""" are photography cucks and cancer. Driving up the prices of lenses and bodies so they can wank over them with their equally retarded buddies.

Their "cred" is utterly meaningless in the real world.

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it makes me sad that no one mentioned the true 35mm king...
(obv joke is obv)

>>3031352
The shutter broke on me twice.

Not reliable like any other soviet camera.

>>3031352
Why are there two f/4 settings on the aperture slider? Did comrade forget to decouple interface from operational mechanics again?

>>3030427
Om is the best in my opinion


I got a cheap adapter for my a7s to use OM lenses, simply the best

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>>3031081
I don`t mind collectors, I got a mint+ M3 double stroke from a collector, sent it to Germany to have it overhauled.

It is a real nice feeling that every ding and paint rub was put there by myself. it`s got a long way to go till it looks like one of Winogrand's but that`s ok.

1/2

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>>3031464
That's an A.

>>3031398
indeed, and metering is a joke... i don't even know if mine works: it suddenly stopped winding the film mid-roll once... i don't want to repeat the experience... half roll wasted

>>3031347
I remember asking for a shop owner if he had any old macro nikkor lenses. He simply said "if you are buying for actually using it just pick a 55mm 3.5 the 2.8 costs 3x more"

The same guy once said that the kind of person who buys a Hasselblad come to his shop a year later to sell it. If someone picks a mamiya he never comes back.

>>3031594
You can test it by opening the back and point the lens to a lamp, put on A mode and shoot. The aperture should be small after that try doing the same thing with your finger in front of the CdS

>>3031503
>>3031505
>this is how leica shooters behave
kys my niqqa

>>3031701
This guy is a wizard, you should take his advice.

>>3031503
>>3031505
Nice macro shots.

>>3031503
>>3031505
This is exactly the type of faggotry I was referring to, you are basically examining a fucking camera under an electron microscope for picometer sized blemishes, please seek help.

> I got a mint+ M3 double stroke from a collector, sent it to Germany to have it overhauled.

Why? If it works it works you mong.

>>3031701
This is why collectors are insulting anyone that wants a Leica or Hassy for actual shooting purposes. Mind you Leica and Hassleblads are meme cameras that perform on the same level as cameras a fraction of the price, minus the moon-memery and muh-famous-camera shittery.

>>3031730
Agreed a 100%.

They are really nice cameras but price is ridiculous just because of the fucking """collectors""" like this fag >>3031503 looking for dents and scratchs under a fucking microscope.

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>>3031503
>Being this much of an autist
Should've just bought one with a couple of scrapes and dents on it for $500 so you could have a bunch of money left over to buy film so you can actually use it. And then since it's already depreciated all it's going to depreciate you can just sell it right back for the same price you bought it for like I did when I realized Leicas are fucking meme cameras.

But what else can you expect from people who use soft shutter releases.

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>>3030700
Version 3. It's a phenomenal lens. I've got a version 2 35 summicron as well, with the tabbed aperture dial. It's on the front quite often as well. Got a 90 tele-elmarit fat that sees use from time to time too. All fantastic lenses and really all one needs, although I would like a 21 to go wider.

>>3031139
It's an m4. Serial number puts manufacture in April of 1970

>>3030700
My lucky trip 7's

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>>3031820
>>3031730
>Why? If it works it works you mong.
it was mint with gummed up oil and shitty shutter times, but because it had the Leica L wax stamp it was worth more to the collector not working than working. Having it serviced and working dropped it from mint to near mint because they had to break the L wax seal.

to the collectors here in town who know what camera I bought and had serviced, I committed a sin. I actually payed above market value to keep it out of a collection and to make sure it was used.

>you could have a bunch of money left over to buy film

price of film is not an issue, this is the current state of my film fridge. I don`t have a lot of 35 right now because I am really into 4x5. you can also save a LOT of money buying in bulk, you can sometimes get 50-70% off retail by buying 100+ rolls directly from a distributor.
>>3031716
why wouldn`t I as pristine as I can for as long as I can? would you buy a nice car (doesnt have to be a super car or even sports car) and never wash it, never pay attention to chips in the paint? I use my leica, I don`t abuse it even though I know it can take it, and I pay attention to what I do to her.

I worked a few hundred hours overtime the year I bought my leica gear and dont really give a shit about the money. though had I more I might have got an MP instead of overhauling the M3 and not been able to afford film as you mentioned.

the M3 was partially purchased from an estate for sentimental reasons which I do not wish to go into here

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Get some taste, faggots

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yall are just mad you never got into pentax

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>>3031866
>why wouldn`t I as pristine as I can for as long as I can?
Because a 35mm film camera that's too precious to be thrown in a kitbag for a hike, or swung around on a shoulder strap, has no fucking reason to exist.

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>>3031866

Where can you get 4x5 in bulk?

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>>3031914
Can't say I know how that feels, I love my Pentax

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>>3031914

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Any love for the Contax RTS?

>>3031954
I have the yashica body with the 1.9 lens

Pretty good actualy. If I had the money I would pick a zeiss glass.

>>3031897
oh gad, that ugly shit is in every flea market, i swear
>>3031914
MX masterrace, that little thing is a joy to use
>> 3031948
and the Super too (a bit more plastic and electronic shutter tho...)
>>3031954
do you have the mighty Yashica FX3? you should try to get your hands on the 50mm 1.7: i read somewhere that the 1.9 is awful... i have the 2.0 version, and it's alright IMO... also the 28mm 2.8 ML is a great lens if you can find it

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I know this is gonna be shit for u guys but this has (almost) never failed on me. Used it on photography classes about 15 years ago. i thought it was lost but found it on my parent's house. The mirror was displaced down on his base because the glue got a bit melted, i guess by heat and solidified again so the mirror stuck mid-action and interrupted the shutter.
Took a hair dryer and re-melted the glue back into place and it's working perfectly now, i just have to try it with a roll of film.

Obviosly isn't a real Voigtlander but a re-branded Cosina C1 which basically is an unsung hero of entry-level 35mm cameras. Several vivitars, ricoh, even olympus and at least one nikon are just reskinned cosinas. they're really simple but i think damn near undestructible.

>>3028746
>not buying new
>no af
>no metering
>no auto wind on
>no electronic lens control

The f6 is immeasurably better.

>>3032030
Sonyfag pls go and stay go

>>3032030
>implying I need any of this

>>3032026
However, the OM-2000 is trash compared to any double-digit OM SLR. Despite the 1/125 sync speed and mechanical shutter, they share nothing besides the bayonet.

>>3032129
yeah, i got that already. i mean that the Cosina C1 is like the VW beetle or cockroach of the SLR world. not pretty, nor remarkable, but it does what it haves to do, exists everywhere in different builds and probably outlasts us.

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>>3032024
>FX3
I used to. My dad I believe has a Zeiss 50mm for his RTS, but I have an FR1 with the 1.9. And yeah, the 28mm 2.8 was my absolute favorite lens to use on the RTS.

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>>3032026
>>3031954
>>3031952
>>3031914
>>3031897
>>3031352

Can you please stop posting land-fill fodder cameras??

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One and only

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>>3032192
What is your problem? Nobody is posting digishit sonys

>>3032193
Gotta love those painful nub buttons that canon must be at gunpoint to continue using...

>>3032193

Ugly POS.

>>3032225
I know, but even those digishits look better than those clumps of tumours.

>>3032193
Plasticshit.

>>3032156
Cosina CT1-A for lyfe.

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Nah, It's whatever this thing is

>>3032255
JUST

>>3032255
sometimes those come with a giant potato-masher flash to make them look even more pro

I wonder if it fools anyone

>>3032278
I think it does, I've seen like ten of those at my local flea market...

>>3032278
I don't even think that would even make a decent prop or anything.

It's sickening to think that oil was pumped out of the earth, refined into hydrocarbons and chemically transformed into plastic which was injection moulded into a shitcake of a ""camera"" form, some 5th generation North Korean death camp prisoner was forced into doing, then shipped back to some dirty counterfiet flea market sold by a sneaky chink to an obese America tourist who brought it back home and promptly sold it in a yard sale and it somehow made it that very picture.

>>3032291
poetic

>>3032255

/r/ing screenshots from the thread where some idiot on /p/ bought like 10,000 of these to resell

not sure if was elaborate troll but the replies were hilarious

>>3032311
Poor guy, I'd love to hear about that

>>3028746
>not a nikon f3

>>3032255
>50mm f4.5

That has to be the slowest 50mm on a 135 camera

>>3032704
It may not even be that. I saw one of those things at a local thrift store once and it was stamped 50mm f/6.3. The actual lens is really small, it's just in a big housing to get the fake-SLR look. It's fixed-focus too, the "focus" ring is actually an aperture ring. Usually it's marked with pictures for indoor, cloudy, and sunny.

>>3032193

Designed by Tim Burton.

>>3032193

I actually had one of these for a short while and they are fucking tanks. The shell is made of magnesium or aluminum and the inner frame is magnesium, the whole thing probably weighs as much as a Mamiya 645. They are made to have the crap beat out of them.

>>3032728
shooogar is the bearer of truth

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>>3031933
by bulk I mostly mean buying alot at a time
most stores will give you 10% off when you buy a box of 120 (5rolls) and then 20% when you buy enough boxes.
If you have a registered business (ie your name photography) some distributors will sell directly to you if you buy 100 rolls at a time which is usually 50% off retail, stores get an extra 10% off that.

4x5 should be the same deal if you order enough

>>3033366
whcih stores? b&h won't do that for me

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>>3033370
You know very well why.

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>>3033370
local professional stores, every major centre will have at least one. Leo's or Beau in Vancouver, The Camera Store in Calgary, Henry's or Vistec in Toronto and southern Ontario

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>>3036179
>being objectively wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMqmENnOZ8w

They live in bumfuckistan and were able to offhand find half a dozen pro photographers who literally deserted the Nikon brand because that camera was so bad.

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Seriously these cameras have been a joy to use.

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>>3036179
Confirmed for never having owned one. It's a tank, and has all the Nikon pro features, but it's neither here nor there. It's the best automatic manual focus camera they made, and easily the worst autofocus pro body they made. Line type sensor shits itself too often, and you can easily pick up a F90X for a cross type sensor for super cheap. Viewfinders are fun to play with, as is watching the autofocus on the ground glass/split prism like an autofocusing waist level finder. Ergonomics suck, with a shallow grip, no sizable thumb hold, smooth surfaces, and incredible weight.

It was fun to play with for the few months I had it, eventually made money on selling it, so I was happy.

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I see no reason to switch from my Om1n, I honestly don't see what a full manual film SLR could offer that it doesn't. Have spare cash and love to buy unnecessary shit tho so would love to be educated

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>>3036253
Does the iso dial locks into place?

>>3032192
Don't knock it till you try it.

>>3031914
I recently had to sell my black MX to pay some bills. Feels bad man.

>>3032720
Was it this?
>>3031897

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>not using F5 and 600 f/4 VR

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>>3037936

That lens is a beauty. I remember going to a zoo when I had a shitty entry level DSLR, I think it was a D40 and met some guy shooting film with this, he let me mount my D40 on this and get some shots. Photos turned out amazing.

>>3037941

It is an excellent lens, but I'd be embarrassed to walk around a zoo with it.

>>3029258
I feel the same way about my Minolta X-300. The power switch is getting a little switch now though and you can't turn it on with one hand...

>>3037951

Why would you be embarrased?

>>3038072

Zoos are for plebs, and professional lenses are for professionals?

>>3029743
Buying an F5 is what pushed me into getting a full frame digital.

The size and feel of the camera was just perfect. And using a smaller camera (even with a grip) just felt wrong.

>>3038072

Ever see people wearing camo in public?

It's kinda like that.

>>3038099

For me, it was just DX being too restrictive in terms of composition, and not being able to get as close to the subject.

>>3036253
I have OM-1 and it's been great so far. Love the small size and large clear viewfinder.
>>3036733
Yes

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>>3038074
>>3038302
>gee I better not take my supertelephoto to the zoo and take pictures of the animals... wouldn't want the people there to think I'm a dork or anything!

You'll lead a happier and more successful life if you learn to stop caring about how other people view your hobbies.

>>3038370

Says the person who cares how I feel... I guess the hypocrisy is lost on you.

I am happy and successful, kiddo. Just not lazy enough to take zoo shots, as it would degrade the hobby for me.

Stop caring about how I feel and what I shoot, maybe?

>>3038370

>$10K lens on granite countertop
>let me give you some advice on success with some anime

Are you trying to cringe me to death?

>>3038383

that isn't granite tho

>>3038385

>he thinks it's wood

>>3039465
>you think it's granite

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>>3039500

>3 minutes of googling later

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>>3038383
>>3038385
>>3039465
>>3039500
>>3039504

It's a natural quartzite. Harder than granite, generally speaking. But most people know it as "granite".