My documentary photos from a gypsy fleamarket

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>>2989804

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>>2989804
why would you not get lower and put her ''head in the clouds''

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It's very hard to compose when you are trying to be stealthy.

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>>2989804

>>2989804
Although in my personal view, I think taking pictures of poor people to be a sort of cliche/poor taste in some ways (you know, walking into a place strewn about with garbage and carrying a camera worth more money than those people will probably see in a year) but, these are good OP.

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>>2989827
Well, my pitiful income is generated at these places. I buy things from these people, and then i sell them online. Few times i even sold stuff there. I may not be as poor as most of them(they aren't homeless btw), but i am closer to them then to the first world middle class.

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>>2989827
>carrying a camera worth more money than those people will probably see in a year
up to this point >>2989824 , photos were taken with Nokia N95(yes Nokia N95 in 2016)

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>>2989839
I suppose it really is different for you then. You're not a 'poverty tourist', you have an actual connection to those people.

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Even Steve McCurry had to start somewhere.

>>2989827
>>2989839
i think it really shows that you are "on the inside" by how close you are getting, most of the photos arent looking down on them, both literally and figuratively, and the people look relaxed.

also the quality you get out of such limited gear is really impressive.. better than most photos in the rpt, taken with 10x more expensive gear. it probably doesnt scale up particularily well, but this is a wayy better starting point than the people getting a dslr for cristmas and immediately start posting pictures of hats.

keep it up! i enjoy your instagram too.

>>2989845
Gypsies are weird, not just poor. Although i am financially not that far off, we are very different. Their culture is weird (and in my opinion bad). Still, after several years of hanging around fleamarkets i understand them much better. I don't know if that shows on the photos, probably not. I think they are somewhat respectful at least.

For example >>2989805
I like the nostalgic moment in which the old woman is holding a toy.

Unsure what your documenting / trying to convey. No clear message does nothing for me.

>>2989885
It shows people who are usually unseen and who are mostly forgotten. It is just saying that they exist.


>>2989875
Thank you (:

I own a (cheaper) DSLR, and i'm not new to photography at all. I wouldn't be able to photograph there the same way with a big camera.

This started very spontaneously. Now, I wish i had a better camera when i started. I bought a better used phone just for this(still a very long way from an Iphone 7 or Google Pixel).

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>>2989891 This was a response for
>>2989873
sorry

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>>2989932

Really like this one

Actually most of these are pretty great - really like these though

>>2989818
>>2989824
>>2989846
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>>2989932

>>2989873
You're still miffed about that guy posting a picture of a hat in that other thread.

Maybe thats just it though, maybe you just don't get it. Maybe the subtlety of the image escaped you.
Maybe that picture of a hat was just too profound for you.
Try and get be little more nuanced, okay?

>>2989804
I hope you didn't take pictures of them without buying anything from their flea market. That's how you get a gypsie curse put on you, mate.

>>2989845
>You're not a 'poverty tourist', you have an actual connection to those people.
That applies to most people accused of poverty tourism on this board full of buzzwords and no understanding of contexts.

The only actual poverty tourism I've ever seen on /p/ was that time moopco went to india to shoot poor people and berate them for not being british.

>>2989842
Still got my n95 senpai. It's still the best phone cam I've ever owned.

Good shots, keep it up.

>>2990024
RTFT

>>2989920
this one is great

overall, I really like them

good job OP

>>2989804
where did you take these? I want to say romania but houses look ex-soviet design.

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>>2990126
These were taken near the commie block neighbourhoods of Belgrade (Serbia). Technically its not an ex-soviet design, but yeah, buildings like these are very common in ex socialist countries. Romania has them too. Contrary to popular belief, those neighboorhoods can look pretty different, ranging from truly dystopic to somewhat comfy, at least here.

>>2989947
>>2989950
>>2990122
>>2990115
Thank you (:

>>2990115
N95 looks cool, has physical controls, and the best IQ back in the day, but that isn't saying much because in 2007 phone cameras were terrible. N95 has a big sensor (for phone standards), 5MP and a Zeiss branded lens, so it appears good in theory, but in practice the difference between that ancient Nokia and best phones today is HUGE.

If that's the best one you ever owned you will be pleasantly surprised when you get a new phone with a modern camera.

>>2989804
this really shows how little matters what equipment you use, its all about your technique and what you shoot. They are all really great photos OP

these are great
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>>2989945

not a fan of the random aspect ratios

stop raising the shadows so much

Kill all gypsies.

>>2989956
nah, that pic was just shitty

>taking photos of poor people is boring and cliche but these photos are okay because these people have made being poor part of their culture or whatever

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>>2990212
Thanks (: , I'm really flattered you think so, but i don't fully agree. Some of my photos were ruined due to bad metering, inability to set the shutter speed, bad ergonomics, slowness, terrible low light performance, and very low dynamic range. If my camera was better i would have more photos to show now.


>>2991147
> boring and cliche
So are cats, puppies, flowers, cute kids, (almost) naked ladies, fashinable people, roads, railrod tracks, piers, feet, jumping, reflections, long exposure water in a landscape, sunsets, moon... most subjects are cliche by now, but they can probably still be photographed in a way that isn't boring. I'm not saying i managed to do that though.

>>2991083
I wonder what /pol/ takes pictures of

>>2990287
>not a fan of the random aspect ratios
Yeah, i don't mind when the aspect ratio of a single photo is unconventional, but it urks me a bit too when it's this inconsistent. In few instances weird aspect ratio was a choice i made before i took the shot, like >>2989892, but in most cases it's the undesired result of shooting from the hip.

>stop raising the shadows so much
I think i see what you mean here >>2989912 , but most look ok to me in terms of shadows. Could you poin't out some that are overdone? I would apreciate it if you could correct one or two for me.

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>>2991216
Pictures of dead gypsies.

>>2991216
>Nike Air Max thrown in the air

This is it, a veritable masterpiece. The ultimate photo of the set, you've certainly saved the best for the final.

i fucking hate gypos

>>2989814
This is great, I love it

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>>2991216

dear OP, these are great, but your post process sucks.

can u upload any version without the photoshop layers/curves mess?

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>>2992537
Thanks (:

>>2992845
I would love see what you could do with these:
http://pastebin.com/YjqeJ6QK

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>>2993055
ok OP, first of all, thanx for sharing.

about the post process mumbo jumbo, I just made very small corrections, since (IMHO) the whole high-contrast-hdr-ism is just cancer.

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>>2993055

I remember an article a few years ago, stating that photojournalism would be benefited from the use of phones instead of -real- cameras.

may the whole point is the attitude of the photog, instead of what kind of device is been used to make the pictures.

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>>2993055
I played a little bit with this one, since there are times that light isn't enough.

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>>2993055
just the small difference between the light on the painting and the lady holding it.

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>>2993055
and well, I don't even know if I have a "post process", but this is more close to the kind of photography I do.

:peace:

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>>2993508
Ken pls go

>>2993513
This is great, but wtf did you do to the rest?

>>2993517
Can't see a fucking thing now.

>>2993518
Great, also.

>>2993519
Too dark again, quite like the softness though.

OP just do your thing. The slightly tone mapped look suits the content, and aesthetics should take a back seat for this series.

>>2989827
You know those are gypsys right? Everything on sale there is stolen.
When they're not at the market' they're out picking pockets or begging. Usually both at the same time.

>>2994849
Whats the problem? You get cheap stuff while stickning it to yt bougie cucks who are too Dense to look out for their stuff.
Begging is just selling a feeling of benevolence and righteousness, if there's a market for it sOmeone will keep doing it.

Very good job OP, it's rare to see worthy things in this board.

Nice photos OP!

>>2994868
>Whats the problem?

You're encouraging the lifestyle.

Until people stop buying their stolen goods and ignore their begging they will never take a proper job.

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Wow, i'm surprised this thread is still alive. I forgot about it.

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>>2993519
These are way too dark.

>>2994849
>>2997963
>Everything on sale there is stolen.
Once i saw an arrest happening on this flea market. There are things that could be stolen of course, but most is definitely not. I rarely see fancy stuff.

Btw, this flea market is illegal, authorities often chase them away, sometimes for several months. Somehow they keep coming back to this place. Gypsies are the big majority, but there are also some poor(usually old) white people selling stuff


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>>2997959
Thanks!

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OP you deserve to reach a wider audience with these.

Try https://edgeofhumanity.com/2014/08/18/edge-of-humanity-about-us/

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>>3000686
Thank you for showing me that website. I wonder if they would publish my stuff.

I opened an Instagram account recently. www.instagram.com/fleamarketers/

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>>3000806
You should definitely make enquiries, and maybe set up a Wordpress with some proper narrative content that covers all the topics that got raised in this thread :D

>>3000686

Yeah... what an oversaturated genre needs is more saturation.

This train came and went a long time ago. None of these shots are any good, regardless.

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>>2993055
I like to keep it a bit natural
>>3000673
What is she selling

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>>3000900
Sorry you got burnt out by life m8.

The world will continue to turn with or without you.

>>2989814
this is gorgeous

>>2997963
let me guess: you are American, between 25 and 20 years old, white, with a shitty job, but whatever it's still a job. am i right?

>>2989932

powerful