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Which camera, digital or not, has the best ergonomics?

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>>2986581
Fuji G(S)W690III for large hands

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>>2986581
The one you have with you

>>2986584
>dat fucking lens hood

anyone have that image that was the gear thread image of the pentax mx with the custom pancake lens

>>2986584
But there's no metering...

>>2986581
A mix of Canon and Nikon. Canon has it right with the buttons on the right side where you'll always have your hand. Where they do it wrong is dial placement and how the buttons work (press once and dial, instead of press and dial).

Nikon has the dials in the right place, and the buttons work the way I like them too. Also no combining of functions on a button. WB and Metering are separate, not combined and dial dependent. Unfortunately most of the non-primary buttons are on the top left side, making it unwieldy to use them when shooting big lenses unsupported while in a shooting position. Thankfully, it still means you have the AF button at the mount in your left hand, and on the right two dials and 2 buttons (aperture/shutter or in A/S mode, the other dial is exposure comp, video button (reprogrammable), exposure comp button)

I say Nikon should also bring back the aperture ring. I find it easier to count stops that way. Also moar AF-on buttons, and AF joysticks with buttons. Being able to configure a D500 to have 3 buttons (AF-On, stick, and Fn) as AF-On+3 different AF modes each is pretty cool.

>>2986609
What does metering have to do with ergonomics? Also git gud, sunny 16 (moar like 11), external light meter, your phone.

>>2986618
>no meter
>sunny 16 (moar like 11)
>not controlling aperture and adjusting shutter speed to expose
If you have no meter you're obviously not shooting moving stuff so there's no point in fixing shutter speed

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I have a few expendable bucks right now ($250) what are some older camera around that range that are still okay. I'm waiting until I get a new job to get the D7200, but I'm itching to shoot with a DSLR. Is this a good deal?

>>2986622
You could get a D3100 (maybe D3200) to learn the basics on for now. Then when you upgrade, you'll wonder how you ever dealt with the piece of shit that is Nikon entry level bodies. Good news is that the camera has nowhere else to depreciate to.
>>2986619
>not controlling shutter speed and adjusting aperture to match
Have fun shooting at 1/60 and f16.

>>2986622
I've seen D7000s on CL right around the $250 mark, and even if they're above, you could try to talk the seller down.

As a previous D3100 owner, the lack of in body AF motor hampered me in using older budget lenses, and the size was very small as well. I think the D7000 hits a good spot for IQ, price, and full backwards compatibility, which is important on a budget.

Guys, important purchasing question.
I need a compact and I narrowed it down to 2 options here.

LX100 because of the sweet 100mbps video or Nikon dl24-58 because no optical low pass filter for sweet sweet sharp pictures.
I know the lx100 has a bigger sensor (even if not all in use) but the nikon looks so tempting.

>>2986643
>Have fun shooting at 1/60 and f16.
that seems like a good idea on a wide angle mf camera tho

>>2986656
g7x mii

>>2986643
>>not controlling shutter speed and adjusting aperture to match
>Have fun shooting at 1/60 and f16.
You're an idiot. Enjoy your retarded way of shooting while I use my aperture to control depth of field and shutter speed to control exposure.

>>2986618
>What does metering have to do with ergonomics?
Faster shooting, less tweaking, no fiddling.
Technicalities don't get in the way.
Getting that split-second decisive shot.

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Was using my 700d in around 0c degrees and it will no longer focus via the optical viewfinder nor take pictures in manual focus.

Video still works and liveview shooting works (although the screen is far darker than the image is).

How do i fix this?

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Planning on 6+ months of travel soon. As much as I loooovveeeee my Bronica SQ-A I think it may be a bit too bulky. What's a good, smaller 6x6 camera that'd be good for travel? I'm fine with sticking to one lens in the 65mm-80mm range. Multiple backs would be nice, but I don't think I can get that in a package smaller than the SQ-A.

I've also owned a Mamiya 6 before and while it's a great camera, I didn't enjoy it much. Thinking a nice TLR would be better.

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>>2986695
Never mind i'm a dumb asshole it works fine now i just had it in manual haha what a meme

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>>2986622
D300 is still pretty solid at lower ISO, I'm not really a fan of its output though. It's hard for me to get pleasing colors out of it in post but YMMV. The body itself is great though, fuck the D3x00 and the 5x00.

>>2986711
>It's hard for me to get pleasing colors out of it in post but YMMV.
What's wrong with your colors? My color output is fine with my D200, I do usually punch up the colors in post though. I'm looking at used D600s to replace it.

The difference in quality between these and the 3/5X00 bodies is indeed significant though.

>>2986702
TLR, which is still fairly bulky or Mamiya 6.
There's really not much else 6x6 that fits your needs.

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Sup /p/, I just bought my first strobe (pic related) and I noticed that during some test flashes, it would randomly just flash ALL BLUE as if my white balance was hugely out of whack. Like, ONLY BLUE.

I think it had something to do with my shutter speed, I guess the flash has different temperatures across its duration but the sum of the entire duration is "flash white", but it happened in the 1/100 margin and I did test the HSS up to 1/8000 flawlessly.

What could it be? I'll try to make it happen again so I can be clearer. By the way I tried googling but all I get is stupid fucks messing up their WB - my white balance was set to "flash" for all test pictures, shooting through a Godox trigger.

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>>2986717
Alright seemed pretty easy to replicate.
Flash worked fine under 1/125, at 1/160 - 1/250 it fucked up 1 out of 3 shots, even if I waited more than the recycle time. All shots at 1/64.
It worked fine for ALL test shots at 1/640

Is my strobe borked?

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>>2986730
aaand I forget the picture
flash displays no errors or oddities otherwise.

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>>2986731
Alright this is weird as fuck. Sorry for the multiple posts, but:
>try 1/125
>first fine
>then 6 slow shots while chimping, all blue!
>WTF
>for the heck of it try shooting at f/2.8 instead of f/2
>ALL SHOTS ARE FINE

>go back to f/2.0
>WEIRD COLOR CASTS AGAIN

>f/2.2
>FINE

WHAT THE FUCK HOW CAN THE APERTURE BE RELATED TO THIS!
Lens is a Sigma 24-35 f/2, exotic I know, but what the fuck?
I'll try other lenses now, my brain is full of actual fucks.

>>2986736
Something is fucky with your camera.

>>2986738
That was on my 5d2
just tried on my 7d, and it fucked up ONCE. But it proves it's not the camera.

Again, as soon as I'm even 1/3 of aperture stopped down from full open, it's fine.
Maybe it's fucky trigger firmware that doesn't synch properly. I have no idea, but it's too strange to be a real fault and not some kind of bug.

There's no ttl involved, it's fully manual, I am at a loss here. Weirdest shit ever.

>>2986745
>no TTL involved
So you aren't varying the power setting of the strobe at all?

>>2986750
Nope, stuck at the same setting for all shots. I just take consecutive shots and that happens, but stops happening as soon as:

>I use a shutter speed below 1/125
>happens really rarely past 1/250
>doesn't seem to happen at 1/200
>i stop down even 1/3 of a stop from wide open (es. from 1.4 to 1.6, even. I tried on three lenses and all three would get that only wide open)

I could completely use the flash like this, but, it's WEIRD AS FUCK. I'm new to strobes and I have zero idea what could do this. I was certain it had to do with flash duration, but since it changes with aperture too, I have no idea.

>>2986752
do manual white balance and not a preset

>>2986752
What is your sync mode?
You're not on rear curtain are you?

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>>2986753
But it's stuck on-
Alright.
What the actual fuck

What. The. Actual. Fuck.
I moved white balance to Kelvins and now it's spot on on all shots.
In all these years I thought the presets were just presets.
So what happened? I left it on flash balance, but this somehow made the strobe, trigger or camera go fucky with some specific settings. I just took 20 consecutive shots on Kelvin balance and it went smooth as butter. How the hell does this happen?

>>2986754
Front curtain. (Just checked on the trigger and it says I can use second curtain only below 1/30s)

>>2986756
>>2986757
Looks like you found your problem. That's really weird, Canon's WB preset system must work differently from Nikon's. I set my Nikons to daylight for my strobes and forget about it, but I don't have that kind of strobe either, mine has a sync cable.

>>2986681
Ok, sure, but ergonomics covers the quality of operation the camera. Metering falls under automation, like autofocus. How you control the autofocus (or metering) would fall under ergonomics.

>>2986672
I'm saying the sunny 16 rule works out closer to sunny 11 in most of the world that isn't a sunburnt shithole. Assuming that, you're saying that you should aperture priority the sunny 16 rule, giving you 1/60 f16 under EV15 daylight.

>>2986702
6x6? Not much choice. If you want to shoot 6x4.5 or 6x7 there's a couple options. Fuji's got you covered.

>>2986713
I don't know what's wrong with his colours, but yours have got the CCDtouch™.

>>2986756
Dude! Sweet! I was thinking that that flash preset was like auto (probably tries to take into account ambient light temp). had to be wb anyway bc color issue is not dng baked or however you say

>>2986713
The D200 has a great sensor for nice colors, I loved what my D80 (rip) and D60 gave me. I really wish they stuck with LBCAST black magic from the D2H because it gave really nice colors with great sharpness. I actually prefer the 4.1 great megapixels to the 12 mediocre megapixels. It's just too bad they couldn't get the noise under control, but such is life with first generation experimental tech...

Help me, /p/.
Currently using a Canon EOS 40D with EF
28-135 f/3.5-5.6 IS lens and EF 70-300 f/4-5.6 IS lens. I mostly photograph indoor sporting events, but the lighting is often poor and if I want to capture motion correctly I end up with super dark pictures. Other than that I sometimes do nature shots and landscapes. What upgrades would you recommend for me to suit my needs?

>>2986778
70-200mm f/2.8L should do the trick

>>2986778
as >>2986779 said or a Sigma/Tamron option of the same kind.

Bonus style points for a Sigma 50-100 1.8, but that would be too short.

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>>2986604
>mx
If you mean mv I got you familia

>>2986774
I thought that's what you were thinking, but I decided to try anyways and... fuck me, it worked.
No idea where's the issue there. But as long as it works...

>>2986581
Get your hands on a Pentax to test out, honestly some of the best ergonomics you'll come across

>>2986715
>>2986773
I guess I'd be open to 6x4.5. Native orientation would have to be landscape though. Prefer a camera with minimal amount of automation so there's less to go wrong.

>>2986790
Or fuck, at that point (stepping back to 6x4.5) would it make more sense to just say fuck medium format all together and shoot with a nice 35mm p&s?

>>2986790
>6x4.5
>landscape
You'd need a rotating back, which rules out anything compact
>>2986778
Strobe, >>2986781, or 85/1.8 or 105/135 f2.

>>2986789
Literally the same ergonomics as prosumer Nikon.

>>2986778
Canon 70-200mm f2.8L or the Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 depending on your budget and preference. You need to bin the EF 70-300 f4-5.6, that's not cut out for anything other than bright light pictures of airplanes really.

The 70-200mm f2.8 Tamron is a nice lens, they pulled out the stops for it and it actually competes with the Canon L. See: https://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/Canon-EF70-200mm-f28L-IS-II-USM-versus-Sigma-70-200mm-F28-EX-DG-APOMacro-HSM-II-Canon-versus-Tamron-SP-70-200mm-F28-Di-VC-USD-Canon__408_0_607_0_1027_0

Landscape is tough to do right on a budget but if you can afford it the Canon 11-24mm F4 L is a smashing lens, but for people of budget there is little in that range. I really enjoy my Sigma 20mm F1.4 though.

Are there any good printers out there that can make decent sized prints without fucking my wallet? Ideally 300 USD would be the most I'd pay. What printers use ink thats not way over priced

>>2986796
>You'd need a rotating back, which rules out anything compact
Huh? I meant I'd want a camera that shoots in 6x4.5 orientation and not 4.5x6 (like the Bronica RFs).

>>2986817
Buying a printer is dumb. It is always more cost effective to get your prints done professionally. They are always going to be higher quality too. I pay $12CAD for 12x18 prints on Fuji crystal. There's no way I could do better than that owning my own printer.

>>2986817
>looking for cheap prints
just use amazon prints (assuming you have prime)
4x6 $0.09
5x8 $0.58
8x10 $1.79

>>2986796
>Literally the same ergonomics as prosumer Nikon.
Nah mate

>>2986826
do they have printer and paper information? an icc printer prpfile

>>2986821
Well it's simple. The film needs to be transported vertically, not horizontally. You wanted a compact MF camera, not one with a film back. I wouldn't by any stretch of the imagination consider a system camera compact and portable. If it doesn't have a film back, it's probably going to transport horizontally due to packaging reasons.

Given that, there probably are 6x4.5 cameras that transport vertically and fold up nicely. But they're not common enough for me to know about them.

>>2986839
I appreciate the effort dude, but horizontal film transport is exactly what I want. Dunno what got you confused in my previous posts, but yeah:

>landscape orientation
Meaning taking a picture gives me an image that has the longer sides horizontal and the shorter sides vertical.

>Don't want camera like the Bronica RFs that shoot vertically

There are tons of 6x4.5 cameras that shoot horizontally. I juat have never bothered researching them since I never thought I'd go smaller than 6x6.

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>>2986848
Just so we're clear here, you understand that 120 film shot with a 6x4.5 frame in a horizontal transport camera will always result in a portrait orientation picture?

Or am I being retarded here?

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>>2986850
because as I understood it, MF dimensions were determined in Australia, and thus, backwards.

>>2986850
>>2986851
Holy fuck, dunno why I never realized this. Makes total sense now. Cheers for enlightening me.

Guess I'll either man up and shoot with the SQ or say fuck medium format all together and just shoot 35mm.

>>2986868
You could go full Bronica and get a ETRSi. But any system camera would definitely be too large.

You didn't like the Mamiya 6, but what about you didn't like? The manual focus rangefinder aspect? I'm guessing shooting 6x7s and 6x9s on the Fuji GW/GSW cameras would be out of the question. What about the GA645? You'd have to hold it like a gangsta, but it's a folding autofocus MF point and shoot with manual control override.

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>>2986850
>mfw that fuji auction went up straight to $300 in no time.

>>2986872
iktfb

>I just want a GW670III
>but I'm also afraid of blowing highs/shadows on muh Provia

>>2986871

>tl;dr - more dials than competitors, but inferior in every other way

Oh, and no lenses.

>>2986869
Don't think there'd be much of a size advantage grabbing an ETRS over my SQ-A.

The GA645 looks pretty damn nice actually. I was planning on shooting mostly e6, think it'd be okay with handling that? They are cheap as fuck where I live, looks like I can get into one for under $200.

>You didn't like the Mamiya 6, but what about you didn't like? The manual focus rangefinder aspect?
Exactly. I think for all manual I want a nice ground glass and split prism. Anything less feels a bit removed.

>>2986881
>Don't think there'd be much of a size advantage grabbing an ETRS over my SQ-A.
Almost none at all. Like I said the Mamiya 6 is kinda the most compact option along with a TLR unless you find a nice 6x6 folder (not likely). The folders will all have the same problem as the 6 had for you.
On the SLR front, a hassy is a little smaller, but overall more expensive and a retarded trade up.

I'd suggest going digipleb for size and get yourself a premium compact taking alongside the SQ but that depends on how much you hate digishit.

>I was planning on shooting mostly e6, think it'd be okay with handling that? They are cheap as fuck where I live, looks like I can get into one for under $200.
The meters on Fuji's are usually pretty good, so good that it's one of the only cameras I trust to shoot in AP with compensation (xpan). The GA645 seems to at least have a manual mode if you get a later one so you'll still be able to meter.

>>2986883
>I'd suggest going digipleb for size and get yourself a premium compact taking alongside the SQ but that depends on how much you hate digishit.

I don't mind digishit at all. I just want to have the option of shooting film when special situations arise. The SQ-A has gone on numerous long-term trips with me. It's just a bit slow to use and I've been getting into more fast paced shooting lately with 35mm, so I was hoping to find a medium format camera that could lead to a similar style of shooting. I also have an A7 matched with a 35mm lens.

Right now I'm considering the following options

Most bulk. I have the A7 covering low light, the SQ-A covering medium format, and the Epic covering the times I don't want to carry a camera. I typically don't like having a fuck ton of gear with me (more options doesn't mean better) so this probably won't happen.
>A7 + 35mm
>Bronica SQ-A + 80mm
>Stylus Epic

Forego digital and go 100% film. Basically kiss low light goodbye, but I could stock on up Natura 1600 for the Epic. I've done many trips 100% film so that doesn't bother me much, but I do know the A7 would be nicely flexible.
>Bronica SQ-A + 80mm
>Stylus Epic

Find a more compact medium format camera and basically replace the SQ-A with it.
>????? fixed lens medium format camera
>A7+ 35mm
>Stylus Epic

Least bulk. Flexibility with the A7 and still able to flip through a binder of 35mm shots long after the trip (my favorite part about film).
>A7 + 35mm
>Stylus Epic

Guess the last option is what you're suggesting. Grab a compact digital p&s (if there's one with awesome low light capabilities, full manual controls, and is the size of the Canon S100 I'm down) and pair that with the SQ-A. Flexibility covered, medium format covered.
>Digi compact
>SQ-A
>Stylus Epic because it's size is negligible.

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How is my new set-up, /p/?

>>2986911
Shit

>>2986929

So Jelly.

>>2986941
Nah, I have a real camera with good lenses.
Put a 70-200/2.8 on that shit and try to use it.

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>>2986950

Will the f4 do?

Haven't seen any images with the new GM.

>>2986957
Do you actually believe photography is about taking shit tier phone snaps of obscure gear?
Why don't you post photos you actually made and we can decide if they are worthy to talk about.

>>2986786
thanks broham

why the fuck there are 3 gear threads? Are there any MODS present on this board? Last time I wanted to post something - there was 2 threads. I sperged out and decided to come by later. Now there's 3...
UGH!

>>2986991
what did you want to post?

>>2986958
leave the guy alone
i found his shit tier phone snaps entertaining

>>2986991
Because some stupid newfag tried creating a new type of gearthread with a different name >>2978883, apparently the original gearthread didn't satisfy his self entitled needs. It reached bump limit, so this one was created.

The last gearthread >>2981448 is almost at bump limit anyway, so just post your question here.

>>2986622
If it's truly in excellent condition it's a great deal.

Not strictly gear related, but something carried in your bag...

I was thinking of getting an iPad and wondered if they are useful for photography. I'm not buying it specifically for photography, but have heard they are better than android when it comes to screen and portability.

Anybody have any thoughts on this?

Best bang for buck birding rig from scratch?

How the fuck do I get a normal / wide walkaround prime for my canon APS-C?
(35mm or 50mm equalv.)

The only APS-C prime I know of is:

The sigma 30mm f1.4 "art", which has focus issues
The canon 24mm f2.8, which is slow

Then nothing else

what the hell

Do I really need to haul around a huge 28mm FF prime or something?

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I'm going to Cuba for a week tomorrow.
Taking my 5Dmk4, but can't decide which lens to bring: 24-105 f/4L or Sigma 50 f/1.4 art.
The 24-105 is more versatile for daytime walkabout and it's a little bit lighter, but the Sigma is also a decent focal length (I tend to shoot around 50mm on the zoom anyway) with the added few stops for low-light situations, of which I think there will be a few. I'd take both but honestly can't be bothered to lug two lenses around or risk having one stolen from my hotel room. What do you guys think?

>>2987172
Sigma 35mm Art is an excellent lens, and focusing can be adjusted with the dock, but afaik it is the 50 that has the most problems with this. It converts to roundabout 50mm on APS-C and you can continue to use it if you upgrade to fullframe, so I'd say it's a decent investment

>>2987179
>buy very expensive interchangeable-lens camera
>in large, heavy SLR flavor
>"I can't be bothered to carry more than one lens!"
Suck it up and take both

>>2987184
>risk having one stolen from my hotel room
this is the main concern. thanks for your input!

>>2987186
Why would you bring it to leave in your hotel room? Put it in your bag with your camera and other lens when you go out. After all the point is to take it along so you have it to shoot photos with. If you weren't willing to do that you wouldn't have an interchangeable-lens camera.

>>2987189
Fair point. I'm just trying to be as minimalistic as possible as it's a short stay, but may take both in the end.

>>2987179
You man the fuck up, a 50/1.4 isnt even that heavy.

>>2987172
You stop pretending you need f1.4 on every lens, and use the EFS 24.

>>2987191
If you're determined to take just one, take the zoom. I always do. Primes for local photos. Zooms for abroad. I'm a hobbyist and nobody looks at my pictures except me and whoever wants to look at them, and nobody gives a shit about sharpness except me. And plus most don't know a good picture from their ringpiece so just consider practicality and piece of mind if that's more important than a slightly nicer shot.

I want a zoom lens for my Nikon DX camera. It needs to do 16mm, and I don't care about the max aperture. Any recommendations that are not retarded expensive?

>>2987193
>stop pretending you need 1.4

It's incredible useful when shooting at night, I use my 50 1.8 and 85 1.8, wide open all the time

>>2987197
Tokina Pro Dx?

>>2987172
>Do I really need to haul around a huge 28mm FF prime or something?
Maybe the problem is that your shooting a digipleb camera.

Those "huge" "ff" primes are actually reasonable on the right body.

>>2987151
3rd gen Canikon crop sensor dslr
Hold onto your ass and spend $2,000 on a reasonably fast telephoto (3-400mm) prime

Birding is not for people on a budget

>>2987179
>going to Cuba with a camera and lens combo that costs more than most cubans make in 2 years
LEL
Try not to get robbed k?
Definitely don't leave ANYTHING in your hotel room.

>>2987223
>average wage is $25 per month
>$300 per year
>15.3 years to afford assuming no interruption
wew lad

>>2987207
Thank you for the suggestion. While they look interesting, I'm not after a ultra wide to wide zoom. Would much rather have wide to normal.

I'd like to get a light monopod that doubles as light stand, so the mount plate can be switched between the thin end and thick end. Detachable feet would also be good. What brands should I look at?

>>2987225
Tamron or Sigma 17-50mm comes to mind. I'm not sure you can go wider without falling onto ultra wide zoom.

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I have had D3300 /w normal zoom, telezoom, and 35mm 1.8 for two years

I'm wanting the 85mm 1.8 for shooting people, and I also want to upgrade the body because the 15 AF points seriously limit composition when shooting wide open (thinking D7000 series or D750)

Problem is I think I'd rather be Sony, and the considered purchases are so big compared to my current gear that I might as well switch if it's right for me

I like the general mirrorless advantages: Live preview (w/ zebra-striping, focus-peaking etc.), and feature-detection AF. These are things where the tacked-on LV in DSLRs will never rival mirrorless

I don't like the size of Sony, but the real drawback is the shitty lens selection. I don't care that mirrorless cameras may match comparably priced DSLRs if I have to pay twice as much for a lens. It's a problem that's probably gonna go away in a few years, but I don't wanna be an early-adopter cuck wasting his money in the meantime

What do I do, /p/ - Photogear?

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>>2987241
Get a used D7100, never look back.

>>2987238
I will properly end up choosing one of those two. Thank you for your input.

>>2987247
I heard the Tamron has somewhat worse IQ than the Sigma but the Tamron has the better build.

>>2987253
Guess I'll choose IQ.

>>2987197
Tokina 11-16 and Nikon 16-85 VR.

>>2987241
>the 15 AF points seriously limit composition when shooting wide open
wut

Do you just not know how to use the thing at all? Somehow figure out how to use focus hold RTFM

>>2987218
>right body
a FF?

I'm a hobbyist, not a pro. I'm not made of money

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I bought this lens for $20 and used a $5 adapter

amidoinitrite?

>>2986731
hey i have the shittier version of that case (A31)

>>2987281
>>2987281
Yes if you like everything out of focus
Not if you actually care about photography

>>2987286
Manual focusing is not that hard, mongrel. I bet you also shoot on auto. You disgust me.

>>2987286
But that's what the focus ring is for

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>>2987286
Honestly not complaining for how little I paid for this thing

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>>2987293
The shitty kit telezoom that came with my camera for free takes better photos than that pool of soft feces

>>2987301
>>2987293
>>2987281
Also I bought a similar lens before but for $5 and used a $2 adapter ring. It doesn't matter how cheap it was when it is shit.
I can tell it will have the same fate as mine, being left in the cupboard without using it, collecting dust.
At least mine has an internal zoom design which makes absolutely no difference because the lens is shit and it doesn't worth gearfagging about it.

>>2987293
Was this shot with your asshole?

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>>2987293
That fucking thing is softer than my $20 400mm Tamron. Although it looks like you're shooting it wide open like an idiot.

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>>2987307
Primes are always better than zooms.

>>2987278
That's perfect for a hobbyist senpai, costs less than digishit.

>>2987220
7d mark ii + 400mm f5.6?

>>2987329
>f5.6
If that's all you can afford yeah but faster lens > longer lens so a 300 f4/f2.8 is superior because you'll miss shots with the 5.6 when lighting isn't perfect and image stabilization won't save you with birding because you need that shutter speed. Birds are always moving quickly and you want to freeze that.

>>2987334
Is the 300 f4 any good thats an old lens? 300 f2.8 = stupid money

Anyone have suggestions for this? >>2987237

>>2987307
>>2987305
>>2987304
>>2987301
lol kay

Going to buy the Sony A6000 with the starter kit lens. Is the camera futureproof or will I be cucked in the future?

>>2987369
Its already 2 generations old m8

>>2987383
o-oh,

but you can adapt canon and nikon lens on to it right?

>>2987388
Depends. I hope you don't want functional AF.

>>2987193

>stop pretending you need f1.4 on every lens

This is /p/.

If a prime is not f1.4 (or f2.8 on a zoom) it is confirmed trash.

This is honestly one of the few places I have seen that values aperture over image quality.

>>2987369

It is two generations old.

Even so, as far as the value goes it can't be beat. Nothing comes close without costing double.

The main issue with it, is that it lacks the pdaf of later models, meaning third party lenses don't focus as fast. Especially in low light.

>>2987414
Only if you're a gearfag in which case your opinion doesn't matter.

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>>2987424
>Only if you're a gearfag
Where do you think you are?

>>2987337
It's better than you are.
>>2987151
7D2+telephoto (70-300 IS, 300/4 IS, 100-400 I) wins on outright bang for buck since its so cheap and capable, but my vote is for a D7200 or D750 (dat Gr AF mode) and a 200-500/5.6 for overall birding capability (subject tracking, zoom range for price, ISO capability, closest focus priority mode from Group AF). Also to look at from Nikon for under or about $1000: AFS 70-300 VR, AFS 300/4, that's it, Nikon made a lot of turd zooms for a while.

>>2987485
Additionally, the 36 and 54 MP bodies mean lots of cropping opportunities. The results may surprise you.

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x70 or rx100 miii or ricoh gr??? for street

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sup /p/, any recommendations for a good macro KAF2 mount?

>>2987517
DFA 100/2.8 WR is the most recent one, it's good
DFA 100/2.8 non-WR is the same thing without weather sealing and with an aperture ring, get that if you need it
There's a DFA 50/2.8 if you want something shorter
There's an FA 200/4 macro, you can't afford it so forget about that shit.
if you don't give a shit about autofocus because you plan on using a tripod anyway get the Samyang 100/2.8 macro, or one of the manual focus Pentax macros.

Have you ever bought something online marked as 'like new' that ended up looking not remotely new at all?

>>2987526

Yea. Like everything I ever bought from Keh and half the stuff I've gotten from ebay.

>>2987518
what the fuck are macro lens really this expensive? I'm a goddamn graduate student and i can't afford anything above $200.

>>2987553
Kill yourself, you're in the wrong hobby. Grab a lens reversal mount ring and stick a prime on it. Manual aperture on lens preferred for this.

>>2987553

How can you not afford $200 as a grad student?

>>2987559
drugs and field gear are my priority, not macros that i'll use every other week. I'm probably just going to go for a reverse mount ring.

>>2987553
>complaining about specialty glass being expensive
This
is
not
the
hobby
for
you!

Simple economics tells you why specialty lenses are expensive.
>large R&D cost
>high production cost
>low volume of sales

>>2987562
>drugs
KEK!

>reverse mount ring
I have an old manual Canon FD 50mm f1.8 on a reverse ring, works great for macro, stop it down to f4 and it's every bit as sharp as you would want

>>2987576
thanks for the recommendations m8, i'll try it out next time i'm in the swamp.
>drugs
hey man I'm an addict fuck off, I'll invest i'n macro's whenever I feel my career outweighs my addiction.

>>2987580
>career outweighs addiction
yeah right.
in a year or two you will be stealing your grandma's antiques to pay your heating bills

>>2987576
>macro
>specialty lens

Macro lenses are the most general purpose lenses out there.
Also, they aren't expensive compared to other quality lenses.

>>2987553
If you just want to do macro photography use any lens with some extension tubes and/or a reversal ring.

>>2987553

Yup, they usually are.

If you have an e-mount you could always get their 30mm macro for like $200 or under used. Good luck shooting anything on a slower shutter speed than wide open, though

>>2987517
this >>2987518
also DA 35/2.8 Limited Macro
Tamron SP 90/2.8 AF or the later DI
Sigma 105/2.8
Tamron adaptall 90/2.8 for cheap manual option, same optics as the AF Tamron

What sites should I avoid buying from? There's a lot of bait and switch scams and I'm not trying to go through all that?

Bought an 80-200 2.8 push-pull off local craigslist equivalent for $700 dollarydoos. Its pretty gorgeous for portraits but heavy as shit and autofocus is not ideal for sports which I was hoping to shoot more of. Did I hamstring myself not going balls deep on the newer model 80-200 or even a 70-200 for several times more? I have the money it was more a shock to consider that as a pure hobbyist who does not intend to try be a pro the thought of spending that much on a lens seemed absurd at first. Am I chasing a fairy that is called "unrealistic expectations of autofocus"? Is every missed action shot just going to leave me wondering what if when in reality they'd have possibly let me down as well?

>>2987765
If the price is too good to be true, it probably is.

A website selling a camera / lens for considerably less than b&h or the like is most likely a bait and switch.

>>2987686
>Macro lenses are the most general purpose lenses out there.
*real* macro lenses are very specialty. I'm not talking 1:3 ""macro"" on your kit zoom lens, I'm talking honest real macro lenses with 1:2 or better

>>2987771
As if buying a camera wasn't convoluted enough. I was looking at Malibucameras.com and they had the D7200 for $625 but it seemed too good for be true and I found out it was.

>>2987772
My 1:1 real macro lens is my best portrait lens, go suck a dick

>>2987781
rude

Come join us in the /p/ discord!
https://discordapp.com/invite/0uiuJvGVT7gXgCfz

admins are:
kurwa
isi
sugar
trip9

absolutely no:
racism
sexism
homophobia
ableism
photo spam

encouraged:
being nice :)
returning c&c (compliments and criticue) for c&c
discussion of future upgrades and how they will impact your photography

please, don't bring in any board drama.

>>2987796
>absolutely no:
>racism
>sexism
>homophobia
>ableism
>photo spam

Just fucking kill yourself

>>2987796
>admins are:
>kurwa
>isi
>sugar
>trip9
Are their discord names the same?

>>2987796
>absolutely no:
>racism
>sexism
>homophobia
>ableism
nice buzzwords

>>2987796
>admins are:
>kurwa
>isi
>sugar
>trip9


>admins
>isi

>isi

Lies. That is not a /p/ discord, it is an isi whiteknight squad discord
Also suck a dick you crippled ass gay nigger

>>2987837
you can call isi whatever you want, but whiteknight? shut up, she's the closest to hell a person can get.

>>2987854
yet she always finds an army of whiteknight defense force

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>>2987796
Wrong thread faggot

>>2987801
>>2987802
>>2987814
>>2987837
>>2987854
>>2987860
>Replying to this gay ass shit
Leave the site

>>2987854
She isnt the whiteknight retard she attracts them

>>2987770
Maybe if you weren't a quick shooting cuck, you'd have done more research and known the 2-ring AF-D is a much faster autofocuser, the AF-S 2.8D is first generation AF-S and prone to motor death, the AF-S VR has bad corners on FX but good on DX, the VRII has loses focal length at close distances, and that all of these lenses are breddy sharp and worth looking at for whatever budget they fit in for you.

Dump the push pull, find a 2-ring (also known as 2-touch).

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Been wanting to get into photography and am thinking of pulling the trigger on this for 200 dollars, is it a deal or no?


Canon Rebel XS 10.1MP Digital SLR Camera Body Only
Wide Strap EW-100DBIII
Video Cable VC-100
USB Interface Cable IFC-200U
Battery Pack LP-E5
Battery Charger LC-E5
EOS Digital Solution Disk and Instruction Manuals
Battery Grip with 4 batteries and optional AA battery cage
Canon dSLR Bag with strap

NO MEMORY CARD
NO LENS
NO BOX
EVERYTHING is in new or like new condition. There's NO blemishes or defects.

>>2987897
you do know that you won't be able to take any pictures with that thing until you find a lens to put on it, right?

>>2987897
Also it is a shitty camera

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>Tfw been trying to sell my D3200 and a Nikkor 35mm prime for less than half of what they both cost new for more than two weeks but nobody wants to buy it

Christ, I just want to get rid of it at this point since I'm going to upgrade. Is the DSLR market completely run dry for beginners at this point?

>>2987898
Yeah, I just wanted to know whether this was a deal, most people I see are listing this as ~300.

>>2987901
Don't rate the price against how much it cost years ago, see how much it goes on the market and go a bit under, it will be sold soon for sure.

>>2987900
Would you mind checking for me what might be a good deal? I'm in DFW.

>>2987904
No, I won't do your research for you! Go find it on your own!

>>2987906
Well fine you meanie.

>>2987903
I'm trying to sell it on a local auction site, and nobody is getting any bids on their D3200, and mine is pretty much the cheapest since I don't have many accessories without

>>2987908
With it*

>>2987908
>local auction site
Have you ever heard of ebay?

>>2987911
Yes, and why would I use it when my local site is more popular? I'm not a murrifat

Can you see that CES in less than 30 days will bring us more than Photokina 2016?
What gearu are you hyped for the most?

>>2987924
Probably all the shit that was meant to be announced at Photokina but got delayed because of the Earthquake will be announced at CES

Interested to see what's in Nikon D610/D750 replacement and Sony A7 III

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Those who have used the X-Pro2, what's your opinion? How's the autofocus? And battery life?

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>>2987931
Not much improvement, Sony is better in every way

>>2987931
huge camera.
no tilty screen.
wait for xt20.

anyone here use speed booster on their GH4?
Is it worth the 600 bucks?

>>2987942
Yes if you want to adapt lenses

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>>2987931
AF is dick-splitting quick on the 35mm f/2 in good light, and slowpoke tier at EV3 and below. Dunno about any other lens. The battery that came with mine was kind of miserable, but OEM ones from China were much better at like 1/8 the cost (~20 eurobucks for two). Only problem I've had was contact trouble between lens and body, but that seems to have gone away after cleaning the contacts w/ a q-tip.

Adapted OM-system and m39 lenses work fine.

Detail on the no-AA x-trans sensor is phenomenal. This makes the Acros film simulation extremely pornographic (pic related).

>>2987951
And yet you still managed to underexpose
Good luck not destroying that fine detail by editing that JPEG

I've been looking at this Fujifilm XE-1 for 180, seems like a good deal. I'm a beginner but want to get into photography, what do you all think?

>>2987924
A D600 replacement is overdue. A D700 replacement has been rumored to be in the wild, touting extra low light capability. A crop sensor D750 is the next logical step for the D7200. Seeing the D5600 and D3400, we'll probably just get a D7020 with Snapbridge and less flash power. RIP Nikon.

Nothing interesting in the patent queue for Nikkors, and it'll be a cold day in hell before we see pancakes and DX primes from Nikon. We'll probably see some FL E updates in the supertelephotos too.

>fell hook line and sucker for the mirrorless hype a couple of years ago
>sold off 2 out of 3 of my Nikon DSLRs to buy an A7II in the beginning of 2015
>was super impressed by the low light performance and low noise since all of my DSLRs to that point were crop sensor
>started to get tired of the battery life and slowness by the middle of the year, especially when I would shoot birds and cars
>borrowed a friend's D600 in November and started slapping myself because it was 2 years older than my A7II but better in every way for my uses
>I wanted full frame performance and the speed/battery life I missed from my crop sensor Nikons
>bit the bullet and bought a used D600 in February and the A7 immediately started collecting dust, I rarely used it except for doing wide angle work when shooting for real estate (it was great for this!)
>finally sold my A7, the adapters and the single dedicated lens I had for it and bought a D800 to replace it this week

Anyone else fall for hype in the past few years and feel like an idiot for it? I can't fault the A7 or call it crap because it's not, I just expected too much from it because of all of the hype. I'm back to having a small crew of Nikons now, D600, D800, D7200.

>>2987986
I think you're justifying an over reliance on technology and a lack of mechanical user skills.
Post your wide angle work?

>>2987988
>poster brings up valid and common criticisms of the A7 series
>YOU JUST SUCK THATS ALL
Sony guys in the house!

>>2987990

Nah, there is this guy running around replying to ever gear question with "you suck, post work" in these threads now.

He was even doing it to that Sony guy postings pics of his cute QX1 combo.

Besides, your only complaint was battery life. Coulda just gotten a grip.

>>2987986
>bought an A7II
>"bit the bullet" to buy a used D600
>only managed to replace the A7II with a D800
Try saving up money next time.

>>2987991
>Besides, your only complaint was battery life
And slowness, an inherent property of Sony cameras.

>>2988000

>slowness, an inherent property of Sony cameras

They are the fastes mirrorless on the market.

It is not like he would know native speeds anyway, he only used adapted glass. And since he jad to "bite the bullet" to afford a used D600, he probably cheaped out on the adapter making it even worse.

>>2988000
>>2988000
>>"bit the bullet" to buy a used D600
>>only managed to replace the A7II with a D800
>Try saving up money next time.

So you're financially capable of dropping $1,000+ without blinking or thinking. Good for you. Brag more

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>>2988000
nice get

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Hey guys, I just bought a Sony Cybershot HX90v. Is that laughably amateurish to own a fixed lens camera or should I come up with impressive pictures? Pic related my new baby.

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Is my lens/camera broken? It flares like crazy and almost always has this weird haze/fog.

pic related

it's an a6000 and the 16-50 kit lens

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>>2988047
>snow

Did you just take it from a nice warm room outside into the cold?

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>>2988030
the best camera is the one you have on you, i took this with a fixed Sony WX300, stop caring about gear so much and start delivering good shit so /p/ can be a little less worse

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>>2988052
Does my bag count?

>>2988066

Possibly. It looks like the lens has fogged up due to a temperature change.

Depending on the lens and temperature it can take quite awhile to clear up.

>>2988056
>that feeling when you can't even print this at 18" and have it look nice, and that you should've just enjoyed the moment while you were there.

>>2988069
How do I avoid this happening again? Last week the temperatures were around -25 C, and with the camera in my bag, it definitely went through some extreme temperature change.

>>2988071

>print at 18"

Wait you guys print your shit that big? Mine are all in albums at L or 2L size.

>>2988077

Take it out the bag earlier, gives it more time to acclimate to the colder temperature.

I'm thinking of getting myself a wide angle lens. Something around 10-20mm for my d7100. Searched up a few lenses to consider, but how wide should I go? For landscape, astrophotography (still learning) and some street photography
>Samyang 14 f2.8
>Tokina 11-16 f3.5
>Sigma 10-20
Too poor to get any Nikon lenses

>>2988168
If you want objective measures of quality compare them on dxomark.

>>2988168
Sigma 10-20mm f3.5

>>2988239
But dxomark only measure sharpness. What I also want to know is which focal length I really need. As for sharpness, it seems samyang is the best one, but it only has manual focus which can be challenging for street photography.

>>2988242
Why the sigma?

>>2988168
Tokina 11-16 2.8
Samyang 14

>>2988239

>>2988249
What are you trying to say?

>>2988247
>what I also want to know is which focal length I really need
You don't need anything that wide for street photography IMO. Street photography is a hipster fad anyway, work on your landscapes and buildings.

>only has manual focus which can be challenging for street photography.
You're going to have such wide DOF with a 14mm f2.8 on a crop body that focusing manually will be super easy.

>>2987986
Dude, if you really want low light performance. Get a D750, the dynamic range + low light af of that thing is insane. I can post a few if you want

>>2988263
Do you actually use those 51 AF points? I've been considering ditching replacing my D600 with a D750

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>>2988269
More AF -> Less re-compose -> Less miss focus. Not to mention my D750 focus in pitch black instantly. I believe the even the D810 struggles in low light.

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>>2988269
the d750 is a few years old now. nikon are due to release the replacement for the d750 and d810.
>>2988276
my d810 doesnt have any issues focusing under low light.

>>2988276
I don't have any focusing issues with my D600 or D800 in low light, but I only shoot with fast glass at night.

>>2988285
>the d750 is a few years old now. nikon are due to release the replacement for the d750 and d810.
That's fine because I won't be able to afford it

I just got myself a Godox manual flash for Christmas. Holy baby Jesus, I can see now!

>>2988285
>the d750 is a few years old now. nikon are due to release the replacement for the d750 and d810.

Probably the next flagship will be a full frame D500. That would be the perfect camera.

>>2988298
>Probably the next flagship will be a full frame D500
You mean like a D5?

I got a job selling cameras despite virtually no interest in them until recently. After playing around with a few, I've been charmed by them.

What's a good tinkering camera for someone who has no photography aspirations and just wants to dick around posting shots of my dog and my dick on the internet? I've been thinking about the sony a5000 because of the price and size.

>>2988318
Maybe a bit cheaper, I wish

>>2988330
Suck it up, the D810 is still the top FF body along with the K-1

>>2988341
Why are Canon's sensors lagging behind when their lenses are superior?

>>2988350
Because Canon r&d refuses to let go of their archaic architecture

>>2988359
>Canon r&d refuses
You mean Canon bean counters. R&D engineers live for a new project and are limited by people above them

>>2988341
The only thing the K-1 is, is top kek
>>2988329
If you like the a5000, the a5100 is a vastly better camera if only for the a6000's AF system.

If you really sold cameras, you would know this. Is this some false flag post to get us to do your homework?

>>2988365
>Sony
would you like a 50mm lens for your 50mm lens? Should be nice along with the other 50mm lenses.

can anyone here with a leica m8 tell me if they're still worth it or not? thinking of picking one up but i'm not sure if they're outdated or not.

>>2988417
People who buy Leicas aren't people who care about "outdated" or "obsolete."

The M8 has worse dynamic range and low light performance than just about any full frame DSLR or mirrorless camera. You would expect this though because it is old.

If you want
>muh Leica
and have lenses for it, why not? If you're a low light shooter who really wants to pull that image quality in the dark; don't. If you're good at using the gear you have and the Leica is personal preference, it won't make a difference either way until you know whether you like it or not.

>>2987931
AF-S is pretty decent with the lenses I've used on mine. (23 1.4, 56 1.2, 50-230, and 50-140 that I rent when I need it.) AF-C tracking is pretty mediocre but I haven't tried it with the new firmware, and that's supposed to improve it a lot.

Battery life is pretty crummy, there's no getting around that. It's not quite as terrible as it's made out to be, but you'll definitely want a spare or two. At least they're tiny and cheap. (If you buy the third party ones.)

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>Canon 5D Mark II
>200k shutter count

Is this a deal breaker?

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I currently have a Canon 600D that does everything I need but I don't take it motorcycling because of the bulk and abuse it would suffer in the panniers. Would an M3 be an adequate substitute or even an upgrade?

>>2988329
I'd personally not go below the A6000, because of the AF, flash hotshoe and so on.

Still a cheap camera, and the flash can help to make your dig and dog so much more visible in many situations. The built-in flash isn't half as pretty.

>>2988427
Might be a substitute. Maybe not really an upgrade overall.

It's like fair bit worse Sony A5100 (slower bursts, longer cycle time, worse AF, worse sensor with worse DR and more ISO noise, worse video capabilities, less native lenses...). And the A5100 itself is not a particularly noteworthy camera at this point.

>>2988444
Thanks, I don't have that many lenses DESU but I can't afford a significant upgrade for the next 9 months (saving for a house).

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Is $250 a good deal on this?


Canon EOS M
22mm STM Lens
Fotodiox adapter for EF Lens
Fotodiox Pro All Metal Camera Hand Grip on Camera
2 extra batteries

>>2987953
I mean,I'm sure he intentionally exposed it like that so everything would be a silhouette. But whats with the weird lines above the crow and branch it's on?

>>2988453
No, even if it was $25

>>2988459
JPEG artifacts on soft gradient, also bayer interpolation artifacts around the crow and twigs.
Fucking horrible, none of my RAWs look like this, not even after exporting to JPEG.

>>2988453
Try to get it down to $200

>>2988463
I thought Fuji didn't use Bayer array.

>>2988449
Lucky you that houses and cameras are related that closely where you live.

Anyhow, personally I'd not get it because it just is a worse variant on a not really good A5100, and it costs way too much for that - more than an A6000.

>>2988466
Thanks again. In my market, it's about the same as the A6000, would that be a better choice? I'm not a huge Sony fan because of proprietary shenanigans, I only bought their AX53 because the OIS was so good.

>>2988465
X-trans then. The fact it uses a color filter array means it has interpolation artifacts.

>>2988426
Would be for me.

>>2988469
The A6000 is far better overall.

Even the A5100 is quite a bit better if you ask me.

> I'm not a huge Sony fan because of proprietary shenanigans
But Canon is probably even more proprietary as far as cameras go. Oh sure, Sony runs their ultimately not intended to be open version of Android on their cameras and has proprietary software and stuff, but at least they provide lens mount specifications and an in-camera app API to basically just about any company who'll agree to the licensing.

Little as that may be, it is still better than Canon.

Even apart from cameras, Canon chips printer ink and has proprietary almost everything, that's not really any better than Sony's other divisions.

>>2988478
Thanks yet again. I guess my impression of Sony was tainted by the chipped handycam batteries from back in the miniDV days.

Anyone have any recommendations on their favorite/best MFT lens? I need a new lens for my Blackmagic, yet am on a budget.

do you guys see any difference with UV lenses while doing wilderness/landscape photography?

Just bought a Fuii Graphite Silver X-T1. Looking for camera straps. Are the gordy camera straps any good?

>>2987931
If you already own lenses, it's fine. Autofocus is a bit faster than the X-T10 but not much. It's well balanced for some of the larger lenses 56/1.2 etc.
Battery life is almost non existent, it's 1st party batteries or bust, third parties can't output the required voltage for long enough to be used. There was supposedly a new generation of batteries coming with the X-T2 but I haven't seen them around yet or tried 'em.

As for my opinion. I have two issues with it, one you will probably experience, the other you probably won't.
The ISO/SS dial is shit. Absolute shit. It's fine if you're a pleb who uses aperture priority but chances are that if you're looking for a digital camera with framelines and a shutter speed dial, you're probably not the type of goyim shooting in aperture priority. The biggest issue is that to date there's still no firmware option to allow you to change ISO via a FN button like other X series cameras, so you'll continue to knock your SS out of alignment every time you want to change it. Hands down this is my biggest problem with the camera.
My WR failed on me so my opinion's pretty low regarding build quality. This ain't your mommas qt pentax weather sealing, this is splash resistance :^)

>>2988559
>a pleb who uses aperture priority
what's wrong with aperture priority tough guy?

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>>2988557
Your camera came with a strap, If you must insist on using a baby tier strap then use that one fuccboi.

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>>2988562
I bought my X-T1 used. No strap included.

>>2988561
It's for pussy assed morons. In truth there's only a few things wrong with it but this is specifically a case where you're using it with a camera where one of the only unique features is having a dedicated shutter speed dial. Also placing the ISO dial on it was a massive case of dropping the ball, no matter how much it makes fuji retrobois cream their pants because omg it's just like my voigtlander ss dial!
>>2988566
Buy the cheapest strap you can find nerd. Even a pentax one will do. If you're too scared to do that, phone up the shitter who sold you his/her/it's broken X-T1 and ask what the fuck he/she/it did with the strap.
If you haven't guessed yet, it's just a strap m80, real great if you love having your camera really high up and around your neck or having it knock you on or just below the elbow all day. There are better straps out there for your money that aren't aimed at posers.

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>>2988557
>needing a pussy string for your camera

>>2987897
I just searched where i live and honestly i think i couldn't find a worse shitter deal if i tried.
These cameras, body-only, on my third world shithole cost like 80$

>>2988453

No.

It has no lenses, and is a worse camera than the ancient a5100.

You'd be better off with an a6000, which is only slightly more.

If you NEED to buy a canon, get the eos M5, but it still has no lenses.

>>2987986
couldn't you just get a fucking battery grip?

>>2988047
Louise Bourgeois is cool

>>2988613
Doesn't help speed

>>2988623

Native glass or a proper adapter would fix that.

With the D7200, do I have the option to save the GPS data in the picture file without another device?

>>2988047
My kit lens never does this even when I go in from the cold to the warm I just wipe off the front element and it is good to go.
Maybe there is something wrong with the sealing and it gets fogged up inside, get it checked at your local service

>>2987293
That is fucking horrendous

If you're gonna but manual lenses then do some fucking reading and buy the cheap stuff worth buying, not just huurdurr manual focus is all edgy and cool.

>>2987414
Exactly, anyone with half a brain knows that 99.999% of super fast lenses need stopping down a couple of clicks to be reasonably sharp, so why concentrate on the fact a lens is f/1.4 if it looks like dog shit wide open?

>>2987686
So much dumb here.

Macro is 1:1 or greater.

Besides, how the fuck do you figure that a macro lens is the most general lens out there?

Wtf am I even reading?

>>2988607
The EOS M3 is a worse camera than the A5100.

The EOS M is probably worse than a NEX-3.

>>2988634
No. Maybe a K-3 II or D5300?