Comparisons

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>>2983352
Epic meme bro 10/10 reply you really made the site better

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>>2983358
It's just like /p/ to brush off informative threads and go shit post about CUNON NUMBUH 111

Will you use old AF lenses? Do you need the flip screen? That pretty much solves your problem with the D7xxx and D5xxx series.

Why do you care about meme brands? Get a nikon/canon or go mirrorless.

>>2983375
I want to use the old lenses to save a few bucks. Also Pentax has some cheap primes and it's not fair to totally discredit it.

So doing research on D7200 vs 7100 because those seem like the best budget options without going into Pentax. I'm still torn on it

7200
>higher native ISO
>Faster buffer
>improved AF
>performs worse in lower ISO than 7100

The main thing stopping me from getting the 7100 us the 6400 ISO cap and most of all, the banding. What do?

>>2983392
>>2983398
Do you already have those lenses?

Do you know you can put pre-ai lenses into the D3xxx and D5xxx? You can not meter but you can still guess the exposure or see it on live view mode or histogram

Get a used D3300 and save for a full frame nikon

>>2983402
I have no lenses and meehhh. The D3300 is so feature lacking that it's not worth it to me. Also I live in Wisconsin and it's winter so I need something that is weather resistant. That's why I ruled out the D5500, well that and the lack of AF motor. I dont want to but something that I'm going to outgrow in a year.

>>2983357
No OP, his post was spot on.

Yours, not so much.

>>2983421
Thanks for the bump friend

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>>2983375
>Why do you care about meme brands?
you sound mad that you spent over $3k on a fool frame body when you could have bought a K-1 instead. kek

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>>2983417
It's not like the D3300 is going to break with a little bit of snow or light rain and the D5500 isn't wheater proof it is just the D3300 body with a flip screen.

What features do you really need? Why do you need the AF motor? Do you have any particular old AF lens in mind? You have to consider the crop factor too.

>>2983430
I only have a D3300 Why would I need full frame when I can shoot medium format film and scan it?

>>2983430
Not to mention you have access to the best feature the K-1 has on the entry level K-70, the pixel-shift resolution.
Also weather sealing is not a premium feature on Pentax and the Limited pancake primes are something worth salivating over.

>>2983432
Well we have blizzards in Wisconsin and I want to buy older lenses because they're usually cheaper. Plus the D7xxx has top screen.

>>2983447
If you have the money go for it.

Still miles better than a meme brand camera.

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>>2983449
>Still miles better than a meme brand camera.
You are a literal retard

>>2983447
If you have blizzards you might want to consider getting sealed lenses. That means mostly newer ones.

>>2983422
I guarantee you will hate a dslr coming from a phone.

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>>2983451
>he bought a meme camera with inferior lens/sensor quality

>>2983452
It's not like a mechanical lens is gonna break with a little bit of water

>>2983449
What makes Pentax a meme brand to you?

>>2983457
>inferior optics
>nobody uses it
>bad resale value
>less lenses avaible used/new

>>2983457
If you just want to take pictures it's fine.

>>2983456
>It's not like a mechanical lens is gonna break with a little bit of water
It can fog up and have fungus start growing inside.

>>2983459
I'm starting to think you are a retard trying to bait. Badly.

>>2983461
>It can fog up and have fungus start growing inside.
It's not gonna happen overnight. You can put they in the sun to dry the fog.

>>2983462
You do that mr. know everything

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>>2983459
You can say that about any brand you don't like.

>>2983460
I mostly will. I know it inexplicably only has 1080i at 60fps. I'd occasionally make videos with a DSLR, but I want to do photography not cinematography.

>>2983462
>winter
>the sun
This is how the sky is gonna look for the next 3 or so months

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>>2983466
>This is how the sky is gonna look for the next 3 or so months
Shiet!

Don't take me wrong anon if you want the Pentax, OK it's fine but I would personally pick a Nikon

>>2983471
Jesus Christ you gearfags and brandfags wear me out!
Both are fine if you get sealed lenses so the body+lens combo makes the whole system sealed.

>>2983466
Stop cutting off the tops of things.

>>2983456
>>2983459
>let me tell you some bullshit about a brand I've never used and know nothing about
nigga u dumb af

>>2983471
Sheit is right. It's hard out here.

>>2983473
If I wanted to save money and go for D5500 what could I do to make it more resistant to weather.

>>2983474
It's hard to see on a phone screen when with all the glare. I have to be careful about it because it ruined a pic I like that I posted in Rpt

>>2983480
So I found the D5500 for 449 USD (with the price set to decrease POST holiday) and the cheapest I found the D7200 for was 625 both body only. Would it be smart to see the extra few bucks for a lens?

>>2983478
I had a k1000 for like 6 months before I sold it.

Breddy gud camera BTW

>If I wanted to save money and go for D5500 what could I do to make it more resistant to weather.
Are you really going to shoot through a blizzard son? Pick a 70D

>>2983485
What lens do you want?

>>2983480
Leave it in your room?
If you want a sealed system the D5500 is not for you, it has no sealing it is simple as that.

>>2983487
I probably won't in a blizzard but I might.

>>2983488
What about a bag? How well would it work?

>>2983493
>What about a bag? How well would it work?
Just buy a body with weather sealing you mong

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>>2983493
It's flimsy anon, just buy a weather sealed camera. You're gonna look like a retarded

>>2983493

My Nikon D7000 was marked as safe after a blizzard. They can get through it

>>2983398
get a dirt-cheap D7000 and use the money you saved on a flash

most lenses can't resolve 24 megapixels crammed into APS-C size anyway

>>2983398
7100 ISO can be boosted higher than 6400 but you will not use it over the 6400 cap anyway, it is plenty high and you can extract crazy amount of detail from the shadows without nbanding up to +3 EV, +4-5 EV if you don't mind a bit more work in post.
My K-3 has the same sensor and it is going up to crazy ISO 51200 but I don't use it over 6400. The most challenging lighting was in a church and even then ISO 6400 delivered good photos at f/2.8. Other anon is right about the flash, I could've done a better job back then if I had one.
The D7100 is an excellent camera though a bit big and a bit noisy on the shutterCLACK for my tastes. My K-3 is so subtle, I shot a fox in the middle of a meadow and he only noticed me standing there after 5 minutes.

>>2983507
Yeah it is but I am poor

>>2983555
I believe that about the D7xxx series

>>2983561
Wouldn't it be smarter to go for the newer and also weather sealed k70 of I'm going cheap?

>>2983577
See the things is i don't want to have to deal with banding like that. It makes no sense to get a camera with known issues. Unless theyve fixed it with more recent produced D7100s

Bamp

>>2983850
Second hand k5 is dirt cheap, has weather sealing and ibis and a good shutter and awesome low light performance. Not bad for just over £200.

>>2984061
Yeah but it's sensor leaves a lot to be desired.

>>2984061
Not to mention the K-5 series sensors produce crazy good DR performance

>>2983351
>all the features for more than half the price.
it's not that hard, just if you want to be seen with a pentax or not.
anyway, just get a sony.

>>2983351
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkGXnApM9h0

>>2983459
>resale value

>>2984070
>Not selling your camera when you get a better one

>>2984063
> leaves a lot to be desired.
> Has the best crop 16mp sensor, and got better performance out of it than Sony and Nikon
>Unless you're spending $1k+ on each lens, they won't out resolve a 24mp crop sensor

>>2984061
no pickle shift.

>>2984144
Instead it has 5 stops of shadow recovery without noise and banding

>>2984065
That 16MP Toshiba sensor is some magical unicorn, same sensor in the K-5/K-5II series and the D7000. It should've been the standard instead of the worse performance 24 pickle shit we have today.

How come pentax doesn't make any (modern) fast lenses?

>>2984167
Pentax has just been bought out of an unhealthy relationship with Hoya who basically bled out the company.
Ricoh is doing a good job reviving them and I guess we can expect quite a few new lenses, fast primes amongst them. Currently the biggest help is from Tamron licensing their best zoom designs for the D-FA 15-35 and 24-70 with Ricoh did an excellent job with the new in-house designs on the D-FA 70-200/2.8 and 150-450 zooms.
I say hobby use is mostly covered by the Limited and Star primes with some of the Star series being Pro-level quality although starting to show their age on the new high resolution sensors (DA* 16-50/2.8 for starters)
The budget hobby range is covered pretty well with some of the lenses being very competitive with the Canon-Nikon-Sony equivalents.
Well, it isn't hard beating Sonys budget stuff, but you get the idea.

>>2983351
In a similar vain of >>2983398's post
D600/610 vs d7200
Interested in shooting portraiture and landscapes. ISO performance is my main concern.

>>2985807
No competition, the d6x0 wins erryday.

>>2985807
Nigga are you serious comparing a FF camera to an entry level one?

The only reason for wanting a cropped sensor is for shooting birds at a longer distance.

>portrait
>shallow depth of field

>landscape
>detail
>quality

>>2985846
Some landscape photographers prefer crop sensor bodies because of the increased DoF at any given aperture. And besides wildlife, sports shooters benefit from the greater reach, obviously.

>>2985853
Bullshit. Landscape benefits from larger than FF formats because of compression and liberal tolerance on diffraction (f/32 and smaller aperture)
Crop bodies benefits are compact lenses and overall lighter kit

>>2985857
And crop is so good now that plenty of people shoot landscapes with them.
Times change, faggot.

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>>2985853
>Some landscape photographers prefer crop sensor bodies
Sure, sure, anon

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>>2985846
>>2985853
>>2985857
>>2985877
>shooting landscapes on anything but Van Format
HAHAHA

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>>2985877
Crop will never be as good as ff, they make the sensors out of the same sheets and photography is about how much light you can capture; bigger sensor = more light = better quality.

It's exactly the same as film, some 135 film prints great, but still pales in insignificance in comparison to medium format.

Not to mention the fact anything under a £1k lens won't out resolve a 24mp crop sensor, what kind of dumbass faggot would drop a grand on a lens for their crop babby body. And the only person to recommend such a thing would be some poor fag that has no viable way of getting full frame gear and they want to feel less shit about being a poorfag so have deluded themselves into believing their sub-par gear can play with the big boys.

Pro Sports & wildlife excluded.

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>>2985891
>photography is about how much light you can capture; bigger sensor = more light = better quality

stop posting

>>2983351
>D7200 vs D5500
Not even a question. The D7200 is flat-out the better camera, a straight upgrade in nearly every way. It's not a camera body that will start to limit you when you get gud.
Don't know about the K-70 though.

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Any reason not to get the d600? I heard some things about some oil from the shutter but besides that i found it for 810-850 USD. I feel like it's a good deal for a FX camera.

>>2985891
135 will never be as good as large format or even crop baby medium format.
Now that you've also revealed yourself to be in the master race you must post a selfie of yourself and your 8x10

>>2985894
He's right dude, go cry into your fuji.