Hey /p/eople, I'm back with some more Provia shots. Got myself a 81A filter that was used in some of these and I'm liking the added warmth it gives!
The first set I'm going to upload is the beginning of a series which aims to document a major industrial area here in Japan. The idea stemmed from the stereotypical images that Japan is associated with (namely depicting either traditional Japan such as the tourist spots in Kyoto or Ise or hyper-urban Japan such as Osaka or Tokyo). My goal is to show that Japan isn't all temples and neon lights and that the places between, while less glamorous, still contain the Japanese essence,
The main goal of documenting this roughly 10-15km radius surrounding this particular industrial core is to show the area as well as the people and community living and working within it. I've only shot 2 rolls of 120 thus far, so don't have many images to post but this gives a bit of an idea of the scales I'll be using (from the distant vistas, to the make-up of the neighborhoods, to the people themselves).
One motif that I plan to carry through the series are the massive smokestacks. I hope to always have them somewhere in the frame. Sometimes they'll be tiny while other times I may be only able to fit part of the base in the frame. This way the viewer is always able to grasp how far they are from the central industrial hub.
I'd love to hear any and all feedback on the images, as well as the idea behind this. Will post as I edit.
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There's lots of farmland a few Kms out that I plan to explore. So far I've only walked around a bit south of the area. I still have yet to explore the western and northern fringes (the east side butts up to the ocean).
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I realize the stacks on their own have the potential to get repetitious extremely quickly. I plan to have lots of other pictures where they play minimal rolls in subject matter / composition to help balance shots like these out. I also hope to include more people and human activities in the larger scenes like this.
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I shot a few images that actually don't contain the stacks at all in them. As cool as it would be to always have them present in the frame, that constraint will definitely limit what scenes I can shoot. Thoughts on how well these could fit into the series would be great.
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Another stack-less scene.
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Infrastructure detail + larger scene combined into one shot.
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Shot showing the intermediate scale of neighborhood / dwelling with the industry in the background.
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This is a seawall along a harbor. I plan to go back early morning when the fisherman are setting out for the day.
Think my graduated ND filter overdid the sky a bit here.
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This is the guy from the previous photo. 5 minutes later he came up to me asking where I was from. I was sitting down on a concrete ledge looking out at the ocean waiting for the sun to get lower in the sky. He took a seat next to me and we shot the shit for over an hour. He was digging for clams that he would then use as bait for catching unagi. He was a really friendly guy and told me if I'm ever there at the same time I'll probably see him. This was my first time ever asking a stranger for a portrait and I know it's pretty shit. I'm wanting to include a fair number of portraits in this series so any tips about going about that would be fantastic!
That's it for the first set of images. I'm mainly concerned with getting feedback about the images above.
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Shit forgot about this one. Last one for my first foray into the industrial Provia series.
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The next set of images are random black and white snaps from my Stylus Epic. Starting with Lucky 100 SHD developed in Microfine 1:1.
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This is my first time shooting this film, but it seems quite grainy for 100 iso. Maybe Microfine is the wrong developer for it though.
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Shooting handheld in a misty forest at 100 iso is tough. Especially when you're shoes are constantly being scaled by leaches.
Think that's all for tonight. I'll finish posting the rest tomorrow.
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What Japanese essence are you trying to capture? I think what you're doing is interesting but I don't know if you're really capturing Japan so much as shots that happen to be in Japan.
I don't know if you're an anime-fag but there are alot of good series that try to capture the feeling I think you're looking for of the country-side Japanese town.
>>2946826
Really enjoy the texture in the foreground on this one. Good colors and a much better angle of the smokestack imo.
>>2946828
Something about the tower being in the center of the frame seems off to me but I do like that the rubbish in the foreground. I like it!
I lived in Tokyo for 6 months and just got back in August. I walked around a lot downtown but some of my favorite shots were in run-down areas in Kamakura. I like the idea behind your series, more people need to understand that I think. Hope it turns out well for you.
>>2946871
>really capturing Japan so much as shots that happen to be in Japan.
That's because you can't "capture Japan". Stuff like "Japanese essence" is just meaningless crap spewed by art students and other pretentious idiots.
>>2946915
kill yourself retard
>>2946918
Good comeback.
>>2946931
>haha u didn't logically refute by thoughtless butthurt shitpost
I have an honest question op, and this isn't intended as a shitpost. I've shot some medium format provia myself, and it isn't nearly this contrasty. Did you purposely underexpose, is this your scan process (I too scan with a sony), or is this a creative choice in post-processing?
Morning /p/! Great to see some comments on these.
>>2946862
Thanks Eddward. Provia seems to render red quite nicely! I'm definitely wanting to shoot more portraits. I'm hoping in the end I have a series of ~30-40 images with hopefully 25% of them being portraits.
>>2946871
I think thus far these images are lacking that. I think the Japanese 'vibe' or whatever will become more apparent as I shoot more of the neighborhood streets and people who live there. You're right, as is these are just photos of an industrial area that happens to be in Japan. Not an anime-fag but recommend me something and I'll check it out!
>>2946909
Cool, thanks for your comment about those two photos. I agree the comps could be better. I spent 5 minutes trying to compose >>2946829 and in the end wasn't satisfied but fired the frame anyway. I'll probably revisit and try again as I think the scene is interesting.
>>2946914
Cheers for your comments! So far >>2946826 is one of the few images that I posted that I could see remaining in the series in its final iteration. I'm glad to hear about you having a similar experience in Japan and I agree more people should understand/see this side of Japan. Too many people think all of Japan is like Tokyo or Kyoto when in reality those types of 'scenic' locations make up a very small percentage of what you see when you travel around Japan. It's like thinking America is LA, New York, the Rockies, and the Grand Canyon.
>>2946915
"All you ever see of Japan is temples, geisha, and downtown Tokyo. Here's some stuff that you would see should you happen to get off the Shinkansen between epicenters of tourism. This is where some of Japan's biggest manufacturing companies produce automobiles, electronic components, and textiles; paying salaries and helping the country to have the third largest GDP in the world." Better?
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>>2947061
I was shooting at box speed and think next time I'll rate the film at 80. I'm still learning how to best shoot this film. The slides themselves are slightly under so I boosted the highlights to bring them back to just below clipping level. They do have quite a bit of contrast. I didn't mess with shadow levels at all in these and the shadows looks just as they do on the slides themselves. Shooting late afternoon on a crisp day probably helped give some extra contrast too.
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Apologies for multiple images of this building. I was really liking the reflections and foggy weather.
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Last one of the onsen compound.
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Back into the foggy forest.
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This suffers from some camera shake unfortunately. It would have been one of my favorites from the roll otherwise.
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Heading down after losing the battle to the leaches. I wound up with 4 breaking skin, and probably pulled over 40 off over the course of 30 minutes. Gotta wait for the first frost to attempt hiking again.
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Different view from around the onsen compound.
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Last one from the forest.
友達
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Now switching to Fuji Acros, also developed in Microfine 1:1.
Last year I used to walk through fig fields on my way to work. During fig season you could buy 4 for 100 yen.
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Walking home.
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There's a guy working in the window but this is way too loose for it to work.
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Mailman. That's it for now. Will post more Acros when I'm back home from errands.
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Nice stuff, all in all pretty good exploration of the idea with few really stand out images. I really regret not trying to photograph more of these kinds of areas when I was in Japan; I nearly jumped off trains a couple of times to explore - but I couldnt quite convince my partner.
>>2946826
>>2946828
>>2946829
Fucking bril.
>>2946831
>>2946832
>>2946836
pretty great too. the second to last from above list I could prefer if there was slightly more foreground and less sky, but I assume you may have chosen that composition because of some distracting elements in the foreground?
>>2946822
Great scene and everything is there, but feels a bit empty to me and therefore not overly emotive or compelling.
>>2946839
I really like the scene and the portrait as a whole, but the unfortunate sun position making the subject all in shadow is a bit distracting. But im the last person on /p/ who should be making any comments on portraits. Cute interaction btw.
>>2946826
>I realize the stacks on their own have the potential to get repetitious extremely quickly. I plan to have lots of other pictures where they play minimal rolls in subject matter / composition to help balance shots like these out. I also hope to include more people and human activities in the larger scenes like this.
I like both these ideas.
>>2946871
>there are alot of good series that try to capture the feeling I think you're looking for of the country-side Japanese town.
I'm not trying to speak for OP here, but I really don't think that is what he is going for. These areas he seems to be shooting in is far different from "country-side Japanese town", they're much more industrial. Both times I've traveled to Japan I was really struck by the distinctiveness, repetitiveness and a kind of banal beauty of the peri-urban areas, with a lot of housing mixed with agricultural and industrial areas. These areas are definitely under represented in most Japan related photography.
Do you have any colour work taken with your Stylus Epic?
>>2947089
Just a quick shitty snap. This is the contrast I normally see with Provia. And this is very close to what I see on the light box. This was midday very harsh shadows. And don't get me wrong, I love your Provia shots. Just was curious how you came about them.
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>>2947160
Forgot to say....this was shot with an RB67, exposure determined by a Minolta Maxxum 7
Fantastic work OP. I saw some mutterings about 'japense essence' that i decided not to read since I've never been to japan and yet from your photos i get a very encompassing feeling of what japanese countryside is like.
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these are all fantastic
>>2946836
this could use the subject a little lower down
feels weird to me him overlapping the rocks
>>2946835
love this
>>2947134
Thanks so much for the comments zx! I passed this city over a dozen times before finally deciding to check it out and shoot it. Next time you come back be sure to stop somewhere and walk around. It's quite different from any industrial area I'd been in before.
>I assume you may have chosen that composition because of some distracting elements in the foreground?
There's just a road and sidewalk down there. I don't know why, but I hate when you get a triangle of road cutting across the bottom of the frame when shooting square. There wasn't anything interesting further down so I opted for more sky/tower instead of a slice of road.
>feels a bit empty to me and therefore not overly emotive or compelling.
Totally agree. I'll probably go back and wait for someone to come by.
>the unfortunate sun position making the subject all in shadow is a bit distracting.
Completely agree again. I had no idea how to position him in relation to the angled sun. If anyone has any tips for shooting portraits in hard sidelight without reflectors/flashes I'm all ears!
>These areas he seems to be shooting in is far different from "country-side Japanese town"
Definitely true. This city has a population of 320,000. Not a huge city by any means, but it surely isn't country-side Japan. Perhaps the appearance of rice fields paints it as more rural than it actually is...but rice fields are pretty much everywhere in Japan.
>>2947144
I do but nothing from recently. It does color great.
>>2947160
Ahh, I see what you mean. Is that really what it looks like on the light table? The left side of that building looks almost HDR or shadow-bumped in post. Is there a building out of frame acting as a giant light bounce? My slides definitely don't have that much shadow detail when viewed on a light table. Do you shoot your Provia at box speed?
>>2947168
Thanks for the comments! Glad you like em. I agree about the fisherman merging with the rocks. Next time I'll get it right!
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Acros looks so damn good in this type of light.
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Dusk after rain makes everything so bright.
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Accidentally flipped my Epic into panorama mode. Think I lucked out with the frame that was shot with it engaged.
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Man leaving a pachinko parlor as I'm on my way to work at 8 in the morning.
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I spend about 5 minutes riding through these rice fields on my way to work. We had quite a rainy September and I liked how they looked in wet, overcast conditions.
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Transferring trains.
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I spend about 2 hours a day on trains so I tend to shoot them often.
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Evening before a typhoon hit.
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Naninani-kun riding dirty.
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Interesting to see some of the industrial and farming areas.
>>2947257
We're these taken on the mju?
>>2946828
this one is the strongest imo. personally, i don't particularly care too much about the photos with people in them, at least the one portrait that is the most prominent. i think this photo is as close as i want to be. it gives me a lot more questions than the actual portrait of a person which acts as a symbol of what the work is supposed to be about. i kinda think that is stretching it for me.. again just my opinion. i enjoy the work though. if you haven't already - check out the Bechers. matt siber also has group of images called 'idol structures' which seems to kind of relate to your photos in a way.
>>2947264
Glad you liked them!
>>2947349
All of the black and white in this thread were shot on my Stylus Epic (MjuII).
>>2947653
Funny how that shot seems to have slightly polarised people here. Some aren't fans while others like it. Definitely know about the Bechers but totally forgot about them. Siber's stuff is interesting, cheers for mentioning him too. Great reference!
Here's a kid excited to see some gaijin walking by.
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Last train / train station shot.
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Watched this asshole chug his drink and then throw the empty into a random bike's basket. I yelled at him but couldn't do anything since I was standing on a train platform behind a fence.
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Oops, one more station photo actually.
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While I was walking around shooting the Provia scenes I also shot some frames of Acros on the Epic to finish the roll. This shot is the same scene as the OP image. The OP image was shot with a 150mm whereas this was shot on a 35mm so you can see more of the context of the road.
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I had about 1.5 hours to kill before the light got a bit better. So this is when I walked around mainly shooting with the Epic.
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>>2947731
nice shot.
I liked the old style house with the modern, white box. I waited around for about 5 minutes for something to happen within this scene. Nothing did so I took the shot and moved on.
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>>2947734
Cheers! I almost didn't take the shot because it felt so cliche, but I liked the shadow and the turtle's position in the corner too much so I snapped the frame anyway.
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Last photo.
I really appreciate all the comments thus far, so thanks to anyone that has given their opinion. Criticism is completely welcome!
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>>2946826
Best one, very nice anon.
>scroll through the thumbnails of the arcos 35mms
>the tiny preview lets you instantly see the general composition of the shot
>mfw these are all more or less blatant variations on single point perspective, save for a few subject-presenting shots.
I like your schtick. It's cool to see such a clear deliberate theme ringing throughout a series.
This is very nice OP. It's unusual to find a /p/hotographer with talent, and I think you have lots of it. Do you have a portfolio site, or something where we can see more from you?
I'd like to be your friend, is that possible?
Cheers.
>>2948245
Thanks for the kind words anon, let's be friends.
Here's my Flickr (for which I've forgotten the login details and haven't updated in awhile).
>www.flickr.com/mctomch
And website, which definitely needs an update.
>www.andrewtomchyshyn.com
Throwing in a request for farm machinery including old derelict.
OP bump
>>2948351
Industrial equipment could work too.
These acros shots are really great.
What's your equipment dude?
Sunday bump
>>2949583
How were you getting around? Some of these shots are very well placed.
>>2951651
Walking, the best way to get around for shooting photos!
>>2951659
>The colour in all of these is fucked up m8, I'd get on top of my process before I embarked on any kind of major project.
Yeah, on a 'new' computer with a pretty shit screen. I realize lots of these have a magenta cast, which I think I've fixed (pic related please let me know how this compares to the OP image).
Since processing has nothing to do with composition or idea I don't see why I need to get processing down before I go out shooting? I can always process correctly later. Not like I'm printing a book anytime soon.
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