/film/ General Thread - Grain Edition

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Hey, what do you guys think of my shitty duck photo?

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>>2930186

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TMax for op

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is this bueno

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Opinions on the Plustek vs Epson scanners for 35mm?

inb4 DSLR scanning, I've only got a Nikon D80 which doesn't have live view/can tether to my computer and isn't great quality.

The scans I get from my local lab are so shitty. Pic related.

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>>2930664
Plustek

Epson if you don't mind worse quality, but you think of shooting MF in the near future

>>2930673
Okay cool, thinking of this Plustek:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Plustek-OpticFilm8100-Film-Scanner/dp/B0074H6NLC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474482384&sr=8-1&keywords=plustek

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Ilford Pan 400. One hour stand development in Rodinal 1+100.

>>2930684

wow thats some grainy-ass grain.

>>2930688

News flash. All iso 400 films are grainy in 35 mm.

>>2930714
>All

except they arent?

>>2930714
News flash: It's because you used Rodinal you tool

>>2930723

All iso 400 bw films are grainy in any developer.

Yes even tmax 400.

You just can't see it when scanning with shitty flatbed or ghetto dslr kit.

>>2930664
Plustek generally give better quality than flatbeds. They're slower and can only do one frame at a time.

Flatbeds are a lot faster but the quality isn't as crisp.

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>>2930723
>1:100 1hr stand dev
>grainy

Dunno, this is a cropped half-frame in diyrodinal at 1:100 1hr stand with Ilford Pan 400, flatbed-scanned. the grain doesnt seem intrusive

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ditto

>>2930688
The grain detracts from detail far less than the hands being slightly out of focus. With the way it's in the picture, all that's there to see in the fingers is grain rather than expected fine detail. Rest assured that it wouldn't look any better with a fine-grain film.

Also, embrace the grain. Don't be the guy who's dissatisfied about getting a nice shot on Delta 3200.

What is your favorite type of film?

Mine is Fuji 800Z

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>>2930927
The old Portra VC line (pic related).

800Z is also killer. I have 8 more rolls of it in 220 left.

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>>2930927

i really, really like Ektachrome EPP 100.

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HOLY FUCK THESE ARE ALL TERRIBLE GO SHOOT SOMETHING MORE INTERESTING YOU PLEBIANS!

>>2930949
Really cool shot. Honestly makes me want to look into your film of choice.

Hello /film/,
does anyone know a free beginners programm for editing videos?
Windows movie maker is way to simple. I'm not looking for much, but at least adding text in a video would be cool.

>>2931032
I really like your picture :)

>>2931130
You're in the wrong thread. iMovie.

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I'm looking for a new enlarger lens, as my current one (Rodenstock Roginar 2.8/50mm) has a weird blur in it. I first though it was just some dust/fingerprints but it seems to be either inside the lens house or it's some kind of degraded coating. Is the threading all the same on most enlarger lenses? I have a busted MF enlarger and it uses a much smaller threading than this one (which seems to be 38mm). Any tips on buying, perhaps? All help is welcome.

This is probably a common question. Has anyone ever had bad experiences taking film through airport scanners. I'll be taking 400 ISO film on a short trip tomorrow.

>>2931421
It will be fine.

I've even taken film through ex-Soviet scanners and it never affected it.

>>2931421
Yes, it really differs. I was afraid I was going to be forced to scan my film (I had some Superia 800 with me for museum non-flash photography and higher ISOs are more vulnerable to radiation) so I called the Dutch customs agency ahead of my departure and they said it wasn't a problem to have them not scanned. When I was at the airport however, there wasn't a customs agent to be seen, as apparently scanning is now done by a third party firm and some bald degenerate mongoloid with tattoos told me they would just have to be scanned. However much I wanted to strangle this waste of oxygen, I didn't have a choice but to comply. Luckily the results don't seem to be affected. On the return trip, though, it wasn't a problem. Some friendly Italian customs officer made sure they weren't scanned, although he did test every film canister for drugs with a mass spectrometer, which took him like half an hour as I had a dozen with me.

tl;dr just ask to have them not scanned and if you're unlucky, everything <1600 shouldn't be affected unless you run it through multiple times. Keep in carry-on of course, as main luggage is scanned with much more powerful equipment.

>>2931421

Couple of threads ago there was someone who's portra 400 got x-ray'd.

>>2931426
>>2931424
>>2931423
I'm too much of a pussy to object and speak up in any way. Whenever I go through security checks I always feel like I'll be dragged off and shot in the basement or at least be orifice searched until I miss my flight. Thanks.

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Kiev 60, Ilford Delta 3200, Diafine.

>>2931421
The answer here is that the hand baggage scanners are safe for all film types (even in tests putting them through over 30 times), but the more powerful x-ray machines used on checked luggage may damage the film. So just be sure not to check it.

>>2931421
Someone posted some pics a few months ago with streaks all over them from some scanner.

I was surprised, because I've never had trouble myself having my film scanned - I've taken films up to ISO800 speed (always as carry-on of course)through through various airports in western Europe and Japan and never had an issue with the results of my slides or negatives.

I suppose if you go to some dilapidated african country where everything is state-of-the-art from 50 years ago you might come across some kind of RapeRöntgen 9000 monster? Otherwise idk, seems pretty safe to me.

>>2931413
Yes, the thread is the same.
Practically any 50/2.8 will be excellent, however the easiest way to assure quality, as with everything photo related, is to buy first party japanese brands.
Nikon, Fuji, and also menelta made excellent multicoated, 6-element enlarger lenses.

>>2931534
>menelta

>>2931413
Oh, also, the standard thread is M39, not 38mm.
It is the same as LTM (Leica thread mount), so if you happen to have an old Summicron floating around you can use that too.

As far as other enlarger mounts go, I think Durst has a pretty fucked up system, that usually requires you to find various unobtainable items with gibberish 5-letter part numbers, if you want to change lenses.
>welp, into the trash they go

What's the best value in photo papers (incl. cost of developer, if you can) for a darkroom beginner? I'll be doing contact sheets, test strips, and perhaps even some prints to give away to people.

I mean, I could spend an hour browsing macodirect and doing the maths, but I've also got these people who've likely already figured all of this out, so... why not do both?

>>2931561
The cheapest you can find, retard.

>>2931562
As in, units of distance squared per unit of money? Is it actually that simple?

>>2931413
The threading on most enlarger lenses is M39.
I would recomment El-Nikkor 50mm 2.8N. They sell on ebay for about 1/5 of Apo-Rodagons and the likes. I've used one for about a year now and to me the image they produce appears pretty much flawless.

>>2931534
>>2931546
>>2931574

Thanks, I read into it some more and indeed it's M39, as apparently most enlarger lenses. I think I'm going for the EL Nikkor 50/2.8. It's 6 elements, right? I think I'm throwing away the Rode on cock, the thing is glued shut, I can't disassemble it for internal cleaning without absolutely demolishing it.

>>2931564
Just buy a box of the smallest Fomaspeed you can find, fuck half of it up, decide if DR printing is for you, make some decent prints with the second half, be glad you only wasted like $20 and switch to Ilford. It has better filter sets anyway. It's pretty expensive though, so save your largest sheets for the absolute best photos

>>2931564
https://www.fotoimpex.de/shopen/photopaper/foma-fomaspeed-n-311-high-gloss-rc-13x18-100-sheets-gradation-normal-3.html

Forgot link. It shouldn't cost significantly more or less in the US

Does anybody have any experience with tri-X pushed to 1600? I'm kinda nervous that the grain would almost make it not usable. I'm also going to the like with Fuji 400h @ 200.

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idk...i like

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>>2931703
Ehhhh....whatever...

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>>2931424
here in America our airport TSA agents always kinda take film to the side for inspection. Only takes a minutes, I guess they have better tech than the italians.

>>2931650
Havent done it myself but from what I've heard TriX has a metric fuckload of push/pull capability.

I think you'll be fine. The uncertainty and anxiousness is part of the fun! In the end, remember they are only pictures. Have fun while you're there.

>>2931574
I bought the EL-Nikkor 50mm 2,8, it should arrive between 28 and 30 sept. Thanks a lot for the advice, I can't wait to use it.

>>2931711
He literally opened every container, painstakingly swabbing the insides and outsides of the containers and the outsides of the actual film canisters with a q-tip, putting it in the machine, fucking up the receipt, fetching a roll of new receipt paper etc. etc. and that for I believe 12 films. I think it's because of Southern Europe, everything goes more slowly there. Well, at least they're more respectful of film photography, so I'm not complaining. Luckily I checked in well ahead of time.

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>>2931639

Get Focotar and forget the rest.

>>2931650

Just shoot 400h at box speed. You get weird and unpredictable colors from overexposing.

Same goes for Ektar and Portra. Should always be shot at box speed.

>>2931738
>Portra

nah, pushing it up a stop adds some nice contrast while keeping its signature gentle colors. Id probably agree with the others though. I dont like shooting outside of box speed.

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>>2931426
That was maybe me. It's because I stupidly checked it.

Don't check your film and you'll be fine.

>>2931641
>>2931642
Cheers. This is more or less what I ended up buying: some cheap papers to try things and fuck up, and some more expensive ones to try things and not fuck up quite as much.

What're the alternatives to darkroom printing for film photos, anyway? DSLR scanning and then hoping that a zomg-expensive inkjet printer has good enough blacks while not overly raping me over the price of ink? (ha ha, that last bit is ironic.)

>>2931314
cool. very subtle

>>2931738
Shit, halfway through a roll of 400H that I'm shooting at 200 because there's endless light where I live and my OM1 only shoots max 1/1000 and f/16 so I couldn't shoot it at box speed... guess we'll see how it goes.
Just got in a bunch of portra 400 too so wonder how that'll go at 200.

>>2931738
>always shoot at box speed
Then why does my Pentax K1000 only have a 500ISO setting? The fuck?

>>2932331
Ignore that dude, he's a fucking moron. Your pics will be just fine.

>>2932393
Lift the outer ring and twist to change iso.

>>2932393
top kek

>>2932404
Holy shit. What the fuck is ASA?

>>2932423
Wait wtf is going on. Is this shutter speed? God damn it.

>>2932424
anon

>>2932427
My first camera was a Yashica electro 35 man everything was auto, I couldn't even zoom with the piece of shit

>>2932429

anon youre sperging badly chill the fuck up.

>>2932429
I have an electro 35, they're actually great if you know how to compose.. and no everything wasn't auto on it, it's aperture priority.

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>>2932434
Shutter speed is auto, and there's no zoom on the lens. And I just learned you can change the ISO even if the film is a certain speed. Therefore, "everything" is auto

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>>2932440
you're an actual idiot
go learn about how to use a camera, especially film, and then come back and laugh at how stupid you are.

can't wait for you to change your ISO dial to 1600, shoot at night and then wonder why your film didn't develop properly.

>>2932442
Suck me you're still being a confrontational and unhelpful faggot at age 19 on a board dedicated to learning and appreciating an art

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tfw you shot a fire spinning show on manual focus and it sucked

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>>2932470
Oh well. I saw how far I can push film

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>>2932402

>Your pics will be just fine.

This is what happens to Portra is you overexpose it.

>>2931399
Which thread should I go?
Thanks tho, checking it out.

>>2932530
Nah that's what happens if you just invert the scan

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>>2932530
No, this is, you assclown. Shot at 200.
You just don't know how to scan/edit your scans.

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Some iceburgs in Iceland.

Used 400 iso lomo film for thid trip.

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>>2932579
Interesting, what do you think of the film?

I have a bit of a problem with my Yashica-D

I accidentally broke off the screw that prevented the viewfinder from opening all the way. Currently using a makeshift fix of a broken off toothpick, but do you guys think I can find a replacement for that one specific part somewhere? Or maybe I could get it 3D printed somewhere?

>>2932577
nice, not worried anymore, those subdued pastels.

>>2931903
Np. The alternative to DR printing (apart from the obvious digital camera option) is scanning and printing. I'm a bit ashamed to say that I made a print on inkjet photo paper with my consumer grade inkjet (Canon Pixma mx880) that looks quite alright, almost as good as many of my DR prints. It's b/w though, colour is a lot less likely to come out well. Also, life expectancy of a home printer print isn't great. Dark room printing *will* escalate into a very, well, 'large' hobby, with increasing amounts of equipment etc, as you'll be constantly looking for better prints and more options. Be sure you are ready for that.

If you don't make that much prints, you could consider saving your best negatives and have professional prints made of them by a photo lab. This will save money if you only do a few and you'll have the best results, depending on the skills/equipment of your photo lab of choice.

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>using film to take interestingly lit shots of your sausage sandwich

Why is film so comfy?

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>>2932721
Yeah, I didn't really expect that darkroom printing would be any less of a spending spiral than photography in general. Spose it's a good idea to go straight for a Focomat V35 instead of some lesser enlarger, then, at least until the MF/LF bug(s) come along.

Aside from that (and fancy papers and fine-grain film developer and what-not, running costs) however, I don't see where the money would go. Framing? Matboard?

A bigger apartment to support a larger working area?

>>2932584

Film was alright. 36 exposure which I enjoyed. I like the grain on a lot of the photos and some of the miscoloration on others. I have been fighting light leaks on my camera for a while but the ones that did turn out I liked.

>>2932825
It doesn't have to be expensive. You can buy full darkroom sets from old people giving up the hobby or dying. The 'amateur' 35mm sets can be upgraded part by part according to your needs (new enlarger lens, MF/LF enlarger, colour printing), but you'll see that it adds up. Running paper/chemicals costs and the occasiinal splurge. Idk, I keep running into things that can be better or more, different kinds and sizes of paper, different kinds of developers, flasks, different sizes of bowls etc etc. Luckily I don't spend that much money on other things so it's not like I'm living in poverty because of it lol.

Although I am considering creating a dedicated datk room. My setup is now more mobile because I need the room for other things.

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How do you feel about a couple lo-fi shots that I took in Paris with my Diana F+ back in high school?

1/3

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>>2932856
2/3

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>>2932857
3/3

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>>2932860
>>2932857
>>2932856

Cover the little window on the back with black tape between film transport

>>2932871
I've swapped over to the instant back primarily, when I do shoot 120 with it I usually just shoot all 12 frames in one session

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How's ya'lls film stashes looking these days?

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>>2933200
bro, gimme some of that 800Z

No seriously, where did you get that?

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>>2933200

looking pretty comfy tbqh fäm.

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Some recent snaps from a short trip to Nice

Shot Velvia 100 for the first time, not a big fan of it, the purple/magenta tint was very strong

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>>2933369

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>>2933371

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>>2933375
accidental double exposure

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>>2933377

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I'm thinking of making the pic related my new main now that my Memelta is dying. Got one in near mint condition together with a 3.5/50 Macro Hexanon and a 2.8/35 Hexanon, and I really like the way it handles, especially the heavy weight. I'm thinking of getting a 1.4/50 and a 3.5/135 to make a nice all round set. Is there anything I should know about the Konica AR system? Lenses to definitely get or avoid?

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>>2932579
I've also been there recently...
(4x5 velvia 100, cropped)

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>>2933471

looks gorgeous.

>>2933369
Everyone knows deep down Kodak BTFO fuji in every film.

>>2933502

but thats literally wrong.

>>2933505
sure

>>2933507
Kodak for C41; Fuji for E6; Ilford for monochrome; but when disaster strikes and all hope is gone, get down on your knees and pray for digifagging.

>>2933509
>Kodak for C41
what is reala?
what is 400h?

also c200 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>dogshit>>>>>>>>>>>>>colorplus&ultramax&proimage

>Fuji for E6
what is e100g?
what is kodachrome?

>Ilford for monochrome
what is acros?

Any recommendations for a good camera to use for film, something that isn't hard to find on ebay or anything and nothing too outrageously expensive like a hasselblad.

>>2930992
>>2933371
>>2933471
>>2933379

really fuckin cool

>>2933200
Looking pretty depleted.

I mostly shoot B/W so my stash has fallen. Waiting for my friend to get his shit together so I can do a bulk order in a month or two.
Mostly just 120 C-41 and Fomapan 120 left.

The rest is all self loaded Delta 400 and 130+ rolls of Agfa C-41 in 135.

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First roll using genuine Kodak Flexicolor LORR developer. Still waiting for the Kodak bleach and fix to arrive, so I used my year old unicolor blix. Took a bit of math to figure out how to mix, but it's looking to be cheap as fuck compared with unicolor.

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>>2933589

that shit looks delicious. post more.

>>2933390
You should know that the light meters on T3's always die, meaning they are no longer "Auto" reflexes.
But aside from that, they work fine without batteries.
The focusing screen isn't as good as other cameras.
The shutter feel/damping is much nicer than other cameras.
The 28mm isn't as good as an AiS Nikkor, but it's fine.
The 50/1.4 is very sharp at all apertures, but low contrast wide open.

what is rollei rpx100? rebranded what?

>>2933621

nvm. its kentmere. into the trash it goes.

>>2933596
Sorry anon, not much interesting on the roll. But I'll try to squeeze out another or two.

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>>2933629
Oooops...

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>>2933526
EOS film body and a nifty fifty or something similar.

A prime 50 is a great start. Fast, standard focal length, manual controls. What else could you want? The EOS series offers automation like P/A/S modes that casuals use and also allow full control like a DSLR. A good first film body, so good I gave one to my bud for free.
>>2933621
absolute shit.
>>2933622
darn tootin' just like RPX 400. Too long dev times for us rodinal plebs.I wish I could find a nice developer for it.

will an EOS 5000 take rabal lenses without problem? wil it be able to meter if i put an m42 lens adapted to eos?

>>2933634
I dunno about your specific situation, but I use a pleb life consumer EOS 300 with C/Y glass adapted to EOS/EF.
It meters fine as the meter draws from the information after the light enters the lens.

>>2933599
Alright, thanks. Mine's meter is still fine but I don't think the camera has ever seen much action at all, it's good as new. I do miss the split prism on the focusing screen, but I can make do without. The shutter damping is one thing I noticed too, there's barely any vibration from the shutter and mirror slap at all. I guess that's also related to the heavy weight of the camera which I find preferable because it's easier to keep it steady at low speeds. Also, this thing has the most pleasing shutter sound I have heard from any camera so far.

I guess I'll grab the 1.4/50 as soon as I come across one, it's surprisingly affordable but I guess that's because of the 1.2 also being around for those willing to spend shekels for speed.

>>2933669

Why would you even consider camera with microprism focus when you can get great bodies with split screen focus?

Spotmatic never again. Micro prism focusing is horrible.

>>2933634

If it allows release without lense you will be fine.

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>>2933675
Because it appears the best alternative I have on hand among the pic related. The Minoltas are both ded (X-700's shutter is fucked, XG1 has a misplaced pressure plate), the Pentax has a faulty display (does not show selected shutter speed before actually firing it), the Praktica's slow speeds are inaccurate, the Fujica is all around beat up though functional so far, and the Zenit has a thousand and one problems. The rest are for meme use only.

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>>2933677
Macro lenses trounce fast 50's anyway, just git gud.
But that Fuji would also be one I'd use. They're the nicest M42 cameras you can get, aside from maybe a new Bessaflex.

>>2933683
It was the other alternative I had in mind, but it's in a pretty shitty shape and I don't know how long it will actually last. The frame counter glass is broken and has fallen inside, and the take-up spool is almost entirely broken, it can still grab the film, but only barely. Also I'm tired of the M42 and unscrewing the lenses when trying to focus.

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>>2933261
Any chance of you selling/trading dat Portra VC or E100VS? Portra VC is my all-time favorite film.

>>2933621
RPX100 is the old APX100 formula (pre-2010) redone with some other factory's gear and materials. As results go, it's quite close.

Definitely it isn't Kentmere; check the dev times.

fellow film faggots please help me, I need a cheap Pentax SLR

My P30 has started to skip frames but it's gonna cost mad money to repair it so I need a new one

halp

>>2933698
>E100VS
in your dreams bro lol

>Portra VC
i couldnt care less about that one and yeah id trade it right away. what do you have.

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I did it FGTs! I've developed my first roll of film, it was fucking amazing.

Not completely satisfied with the actual photos though, focusing is hard...but I think development went all right, right?

1/3 ilford hp5+

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>>2933991

2/3

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>>2933993
>>2930192

3/3 ducks

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>>2933908
Understand about the E100VS... hope you shoot some killer stuff with it. How many rolls of VC do you and is it 120 or 220? Expiry date?

This is my current stash and I live in Japan so I can get lots of dope Fuji stuff.
>>2933200

>>2933991
Congrats anon! It's a great feeling isn't it! Get out and shoot the next roll, paying more attention to focus and compositions. Looks like you nailed exposure pretty well.

CAN SOMEBODY HELP ME

IS THERE A WAY TO MAKE FIXER OUT OF COMMON INGREDIENTS?

I'm stuck on a ship with an unknown camera and I want to develop a roll of bw. I have enough for CAFFENOL-LC or the one dev with painkillers. I need to test this camera before I keep blowing up rolls.

>>2934390
Kodak Fixing Bath F-6
Odorless Bath for Films, Plates, and Papers
Water, about 50 Celsius (125° F.) 600 ml
Sodium Thiosulfate (Hypo) 240 g
Sodium Sulfite, desiccated 15 g
* Acetic Acid, 28% 48 ml
Kodalk 15 g
Potassium Alum 15 g
Cold water to make 1 liter

* To make approximately 28% acetic acid from glacial acetic acid, dilute three parts of glacial acetic acid with eight parts of water.
Dissolve chemicals in order given. To prevent sulfurization, mix the potassium alum separately in a small amount of hot water then add this last with rapid stirring.
This bath should be used in conjunction with a stop bath such as Kodak Stop Bath SB-1 or Kodak Stop Bath SB-1a, or an acid hardening bath such as Kodak Hardening Bath SB-3 to obtain the full useful hardening life. The hardening life (capacity) is equal to that of Kodak Fixing Bath F-5 provided an acid stop bath is used. With a water rinse the life is about one-half that of Kodak Fixing Bath F-5.
The hardener may also be mixed separately as a stock solution as detailed in Kodak Hardener F-6a.

Kodak Hardener F-6a
Stock Solution For Preparing Kodak Fixing Bath F-6
Water, about 50 Celsius (125° F.) 600 ml
Sodium Sulfite, desiccated 75.0 g
* Acetic Acid, 28% 235.0 ml
Kodalk 75.0 g
Potassium Alum 75.0 g
Cold water to make 1.0 liter

* To make approximately 28% acetic acid from glacial acetic acid, dilute three parts of glacial acetic acid with eight parts of water.
Dissolve chemicals in order given.
Add one part of the cool stock hardener solution slowly to 4 parts of cool 30% hypo solution (2.5 pounds per gallon of solution), while stirring the hypo rapidly

>>2934409
That's a sweet list of common ingredients ya got there anon.

>>2934409
>>2934390
Okay I found out that salt water cam be used as a really slow fix (4+ hours).

I would have tried to make hypo or an alternative with thiosulfate if I could get it. I'm onboard a ship so supplies are limited to say the least.

>>2934425
Oh yeah I should mention it.
Mix table salt into hot water as much as possible. Let cool and try to decant the solid salt out.

4-24 hours fix time. Archival properties unknown.

>First roll from Pentax 67 is back
>triX
>Missed two frames because I used a lens with a leaf shutter for them and didnt realize they were "on"
>Its all shit

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE They said Pentax 67 was fine handheld!

Shot a roll of Portra 400 that I get back wednesday. Hopefully its a much different story.

>>2934515
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE They said Pentax 67 was fine handheld!

but it is. why are you sperging. post photos.

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>>2934520
I should be more wary of the metered prism. I was shooting in the sun's direction here so that obviously made me under expose her.

Im mainly sperging because the shots arent as sharp as I wanted them to be

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This one is fucked. Really pissed out oof her face is. She may have moved tho and I had to tell her repeatedly not to.

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And the rest arent worth posting/was careless and I know what I did wrong with them too.

Tell me about mirror up. is it only needed for 1/60 and slower? That's what I hear from actual users and not shitposters about the mirror.

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>>2934527

thats too thin of dof for that shot. also you misfocused, she could have moved, but the focus seems to be on her hand aka. ur fault.

>>2934530
I see that it's on her hand but if she leaned back even slightly it would have taken her out of the focus I put her in.

You are correct on the shallow dof. Again, this was a test roll so now I at least know how crazy shallow it can get.

Question for you though, since lenses are are full aperture when you are focusing them, does that not show the DOF of the image wide open?

What do you rec for portraits? f4? Is there anything usable at full aperture for medium format?

These shots were all 105mm 2.4 btw. They were all shot below f4 most likely :[

>>2934528
>Tell me about mirror up. is it only needed for 1/60 and slower?

i wouldnt mirror up tripodless, doesnt make any sense. 1/60 is the slowest id go with that camera handheld. start lifting.

>>2934534
Nigga I lift more than u. The reason I'm asking is because of the meme about the Pentax's mirror shake fucking up photos. It makes sense to mirror up without a tripod IF you are that concerned about mirror slap even at higher speeds like 1/125.

The mirror slap doesnt seem that much worse than a hasselblad truth be told, but I'd like second opinions before wasting more film.

>>2934532

i made that mistake in a recent shooting too. underestimated the pants on the head retarded amount of bokeh of the 2.4.

apparently the viewfinder bokeh is not the "final one", the one you get in the negative is stronger.

full or near full aperture is cool for full body shots from far away of the subject. for typical close portraits id say f8 and up.

>>2934539
what are you going to do, compose, tell your subject to be still, hit mirror up, and then shoot into the dark? its a slow move, youll end up fucking your original composition or losing the models pose at its peak.

as said, i havent had problems with mirror slap, just dont go below 1/60. also lift more :^)

>>2934549
>what are you going to do, compose, tell your subject to be still, hit mirror up, and then shoot into the dark? its a slow move, youll end up fucking your original composition or losing the models pose at its peak.
I know what you're saying. I just did it IN CASE mirror slap was a thing that mattered. Having shot this roll, it doesn't seem like it anymore.

>also lift more :^)
o-ok...

>full or near full aperture is cool for full body shots from far away of the subject. for typical close portraits id say f8 and up.
Dam son. Ok thanks. How bad does it fucking get for large format fags?

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Olympus XA is best pocket camera

(Kodak Ultramax 400)

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>>2934560
>>2934560
Ultramax is fucking great. fuck the fuji shills.

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>>2934560
Also nice shot anon

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>>2934561
More Ultramax in the XA, just for you

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>>2934561
>>2934563

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>>2934563
Saved both just for reference. Here is another example of its nice colors.

If it was just a cunts hair sharper and less grainy it would be a film on par with ektar and portra. its without a doubt the best film for shooting stuff with friends, gf, and family.

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>>2934565
Yeah, great colors. As long as I'm not shooting something with lots of green, I still prefer Ektar for bright outdoors shots - great blues and reds.

Here's one more Ultramax shot with the XA. Should I dump some Ektar shots as well?

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>>2934566
But Ultramax's greens look good as well friendo

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>>2934566
>great reds

they really are

Let me some Ektar. Especially portraits if you have any, I'm really itching to use Ektar for portraits I see some really nice results.

If you are an absolute madman and have any Velvia portraits Id like to see those too... because

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>>2934581
FUCK

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I got one more Ultramax shot handy. I'll be back itt tomorrow

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>>2934566
>those feet

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>>2934584
Yeah, I know I should crop the bottom off.

>>2934581
Ektar Portait? BAM

(Yes, still the XA)

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>>2934581
Showing off some Ektar reds

>>2934585
Forgive me for my insane grammar Im really tired and seem to be missing words in sentences.

Nice photo, I want to throw those sunglasses in the water though

>>2934588
Nice af reds. I only wish you could have waited for the person to either go away or look more interesting.

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>>2934578
Yeah, sorry if I wasn't clear - that was my point, Ultramax is a more well-rounded film that Ektar. Ektar has really punchy blues and reds, but the greens are a little more muted.

The sharp blues make for great skiing shots, though

(More XA, Ektar 100. XA has some weird lens flare, but that's the price of a fuckin' teeny F2.8 lens)

>>2934592
Another quality shot anon.
>square bokeh
top heh

Would you say Portra handles green better? I guess I would say so. Portra makes nature look so "gentle." Its a different kind of feel

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>>2934590
Yeah, let's be honest: he's a tool. But I don't take many portraits-style photos, and this is one of my better ones.

Here's an example of what I mean about muted greens with Ektar. Still love this photo, especially the sunlight catching the raindrops.

>>2934596
Thats really cool you got the raindrops in the shot. I also see another quality of Ektar I dislike, which is "glowing" peak highlights. The sunlight side of those dudes and the trees just to the right of them have that glow to them I think is unattractive. Just makes them look out of focus and makes the photo feel "cheap"

The greens look muddled too. Its still a nice shot with good composition. And spongebob.

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>>2934581
an Ektar portrait for you my friend

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I'll share some of my favorite Ektar shots since Im still awake.

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>>2934595
I haven't shot enough Portra to have a real informed opinion. I recall the color rendition being very even and natural, but fairly low on contrast overall - so very sensitive to lighting conditions; not film that was friendly for just casually wandering around with. I mostly stick to Ektar and Ultramax for color, and Tri-X for B&W.

(LA at night with the XA and some Tri-X)

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>>2934600
Cool, Ektar doesnt ruin skin tones like I originally suspected it would.

My main film SLR is a Minolta Maxxum StSi

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>>2934598
Yeah, Ektar has good contrast, but it *will* blow out the highlights. I'm ok with it, I was just trying to capture good memories on a trip - I'm no pro. And yes, while I love this photo, it's a textbook example of Ektar's shortcomings with green.

>>2934603
Nice! Love this shot.

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>>2934605
I have mixed feelings about TriX. So many people have done great with it but there is also so much out there that looks like too high contrast grainy shit. My recent attempt >>2934528
was no exception.

I really need to try HP5 and Acros. Also do my own dev. with some rodinal.

Here is a cool snapshit out of a moving car

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>>2934581
>Velvia portraits

not him, but here you go, anon.

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>>2934611
Super dynamic lighting to judge Velvia on but I like it! Got any more? Also is this 100 or 50? From what I understand 50 has more vibrant colors.

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>>2934607
It's a great emulsion. It's like slide-lite, lots of colour and vibrance but it won't fuck your shit up. Dynamic range is a little smaller than some other colour negative films, so you'll need to be more accurate with your metering and exposing.

Here's another Ektar portrait with a different skin tone, featuring my friend who hates having his picture taken

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>>2934610
I've had some really good luck with Tri-X; if you don't like the grain there's other B&W to shoot with. They key is to take advantage of its high contrast.

>He says as he posts an overexposed TriX photo with shitty contrast
>I still like this shot anyway

>>2934614
that grain is crazy. Pushed at all?

>>2934614
I still like it too. Feels like a distant memory.

Im not against grain outright, but at times it feels like a fucking meme.

>>2934613
Lots of nice details in this photo. I love how the blue and green bulbs sort of pop out too.

Alright, Im done for real this time. Goodnight anons

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>>2934610
Acros stand deved in Rodinal is godly.

>>2934515

>Blaming camera for your own incompetence.

>>2934621

sheeeit. i need some of that acros.

>>2934621
but anon, even fomapan looks good in MF, esp. as a small 800x800 image.

Post your stand dev procedure btw pls pretty pls.

>>2934621

Pretty much everything is great in rodinal stand development.

It gives amazing shadow detail.

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>>2934627
Considering that was under terrible light at high noon I was pretty surprised. Get on it!

>>2934629
1:100. 30 seconds of inversions at the beginning. 30 more seconds at the 30 minute mark. Occasional tappingon the tank throughout. I've had some bromide drag issues doing this on 35mm, but never had an issue with 120.

This is Tri-X following the same formula.

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Another rodinal stand Acros shot. Crushed the shadows a bit in post to hide some things.

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palm springs?

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>>2934621
Daaaaaamn. I need to get me some Acros.

On the other end of the grain spectrum, here's some Superia 400 that expired about a year before I shot it.

>inb4 "wtf fuckin' spaceships" - this is from the 2015 World Solar Challenge.

>>2934641
Is that the Dutch car? I like the photo, but I think the grain messes with the details too much here

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>>2934596

Are these lab scans or did you scan them by yourself? Great colors.

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How dumb would it be to get that for Zenit 12?

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>>2934635
A san diego apt complex but it does look like that

>>2934717
Youre asking two different people but for the non Olympus XA shots theyre all lab dev and scans.

I cant be fucked to dev C-41 and get a scanner. Im kind of blessed to have a pro camera shop 4 min. from my house.

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>>2934621
135? Looks pretty noisy in the sky, more than I'd expect for Acros in Rodinal Stand.

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>>2934808
>dat crispy hair

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Is Nettar worth shooting? The one I have has novar anastigmat f6.5 lens

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>>2934911

they are cool cameras. sold mine because i felt it was underwhelming (i expected habbelsad IQ lol), but now id def shoot it again, might get one soon.

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First time shooting on my Rollei 35LED with Fujicolor 200

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