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>>2927685
Fuck off you dickhead, jsut like you did at the end of your last thread when it was brought up how much of an abhorrent cunt you are.
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>>2927685
What's your setup OP?
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>>2927697

who cares? its all shit.
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>>2927697
Fujifilm Xpro2, 18mm f2

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>>2927695
>>2927696

Did you use tripod here?
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>>2927704
nope

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lmao
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I dont get these photos. Is there an underlying theme I'm missing?

They're not particularly nice to look at, and none of them have a discernible subject.
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>>2927719
>none of them have a discernible subject.
that's inaccurate, do you not look at photobooks?
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>>2927721
Obviously the statement was exaggerated but at least 3/4 of them don't
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>>2927725
I dont see a single one without a subject
Subtlety is lost on some I suppose.
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>>2927703

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>>2927717
>5 posters
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>>2927726

>>2927688
>subject
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>>2927728
>autism
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>>2927729
>I dont understand landscapes as subjects
judging by the filenames she uploaded them out of order explicitly to upload >>2927688
and >>2927690 together.
That might be a hint.
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I really like the tones of these photos.
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>>2927734
anon found the subject! :D
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Oh man, all these negative responses and the IP count just doesn't want to go up.
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>>2927728
only 5 posts that aren't isi so far in the thread...
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Red channel's not blown, so that's something.
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>>2927727
Your monitor is trash
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>>2927873
>Le epic bad monitor meme
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>>2927873
His edit is miles better than isi's murky dull looking shot.
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>>2927882
>murky
Lol here's your you
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the artist formerly known as isi
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>>2927882
No, your monitor just lacks in color fidelity, which makes exceedingly tonal stuff like this simply look desaturated to you. That edit is oversaturated and looks very unnatural on a properly color-calibrated monitor.
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>>2927937

>>2927876
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>>2927945
This isn't a known meme. If you keep hearing this when you edit peoples photos, maybe theres a reason.
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>>2927685
Please stop
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>>2927949
"ur monitor is le bad, dat y u don understan MUH ART" is pretty standard isi meme
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most of your shots have no subject, it's like you're shooting into the void

>>2927690
stop, this is terrible, what did you think you were shooting?

>>2927691
hipster trash

>>2927726
>makes shit
>doesn't even know what he's shooting
>Subtlety is lost on some I suppose.
pretentious hipster confirmed
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>>2927975
>most of your shots have no subject, it's like you're shooting into the void
What do you think defines a subject, anon?

>rest of your reply
Nevermind, you have nothing of value to communicate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwmZZZoU_gs
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LEAVE ISI ALONE!!!!!!
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>>2927980
Hahaha, these keep getting better
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>>2927982
Cheers big ears.
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>>2927978
>you have nothing of value to communicate.
hahaha, well said, you took words right out of my mouth
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>>2927982
>Hahaha, these keep getting better

you are so fake.
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>>2927727
actually really like this edit

the yellow tops of the plants really pop now
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>>2927996
Why's that, anonymous?

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>>2927997
K e n n e t h

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>>2928002
real nice light
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Nice photos ISI, but you lack two things from them. A subject (or at least punctuation) and talent.
You definitely have the gear for it, I bet you made daddy feel real good for it.
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>>2928002

I'd frame that.
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>>2928037
why? its garbage
wheres the subject? you cant even tell because everything is in focus because op doesnt know how to isolate a subject
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>>2928043

>can't see the forest for the trees
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>>2928043
The subject (and the anti-subject, I guess) fill the entire frame.
It's light or the lack thereof.
:^)
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>>2928051
You're an idiot.
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>>2928054

>everything is in focus

You see all the depth of space and light? The entire scene? That is the subject... and you can tell it's the subject, because it's all in focus. (Shocking, right?)

I find these kinds of shots are most suitable for framing, because the whole frame is used, and anyone looking at it has no trouble knowing what they are looking at, and why. Except for you, apparently.
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>>2928054
You're a kidiot.

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I had no idea the only difference between a professional photo and an amateur photo, was simply a white border around the image. Thanks OP, going to update my Facebook bio to include that I am a Photographer now. Thanks!
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>>2928087
Photographers can never be professionals, it is etymologically impossible.
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>>2928088

>that feeling when you and james finally agree on something

when we getting hitched, hon? i can't cope with this heart so aflutter.
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>>2927719
>>2927729
>>2927975
>>2928031
>>2928043
>no subject
It's cute how babby disregards things such as light, texture, patterns and colour as subjects.
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>>2928216
>light, texture, patterns and colour as subjects.

we all like those things. when done right, obviously. unlike this whole thread.
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>>2928061
Cool concept.
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>>2928219
You going to post an example of it done right
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>>2928219
this is something you'd be asked to take to demonstrate texture in a photo 101 class in the first week
I am not yanking your chain, that is just where your level of taste is
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>>2928222
>>2928223

mad? please keep going, i will too.

okay, laddy here mentioned color, here is color done right. dont you love it?
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>>2928225
How is that color done right?

Would literally look better b&w. Collor is completely irrelevant to that photo

I don't even like isi but your examples are garbage
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>>2928230

i think you mentioned repetition too?

fair enough. here is a nice example im sure you will enjoy, as you did with the others.

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>>2928225
>mad?
lmao nice projection from the faggot shitposting every isi thread
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>>2928236
what does this have to do with repetition? that's texture, dumbfuck
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>>2928239

>implying the majority of /p/ doesn't roast isi on the reg for being a snotty cunt
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>>2928246
>that's texture

you fell for my clever ruse. its texture, but for first time in this thread, done right, isnt it?

now what else was mentioned, light? there you go.

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>>2928250
>snotty cunt
like...everyone else on the board?
>boys that hate women who act just like them
must have clicked on r9k on accident kek
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>>2928250
>for being a snotty cunt
Oh you mean when the majority of /p/ comes to her threads with the one intention of shitpsoting, then get's BTFO when isi retaliates?

Here's a thought, maybe anon is the problem, and not isi???
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>>2928252
oh, there's plenty of texture in this thread, just not texture as a singular subject. Compounded texture, tonality, and light.
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>>2928253

Yeah, exactly like everyone else on the board. I get roasted all of the time. It's literally a part of being on fucking 4chan, man. It happens, retard. I just don't have a white knight echo chamber to rush to my defense, and neither do you, so our roasting goes unnoticed.

>>2928254

Maybe you're on the wrong website???

Y'all know that isi's got a boyfriend, right? Has she ever actually thanked any of ye brave lads for your chivalry?
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>>2928257

they are dead images. they go nowhere. yes, they are photos, that have light and texture on them (LOL of course) but what for?

here is more tonality, composition and repetition. now you have a decent thread, i hope OP stops posting so you dont get distracted by dead photos again.

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>>2928266
>all these male tears
transition and take advantage of the white knights yourself then you whiney faggot
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>>2927999
this one is good actually

>>2928088
>etymologically
jesus...

>>2928216
>hurr shooting at the ground is deep and subtle
>muh ground texture

I like how some /p/osters will unconditionally battle their critics instead of ever considering that maybe their random shitty shots could have more thought put into them

>>2928267
>this is considered good
>photographers complain about not being taken seriously as artists
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>>2928294
>I like how some /p/osters will unconditionally battle their critics instead of ever considering that maybe their random shitty shots could have more thought put into them
Your error is thinking every photo can be a masterpiece. And its why you miss taking so many perfectly good photos. You fear boredom.
Millennials.
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>>2928294
>>this is considered good
>>photographers complain about not being taken seriously as artists
by itself, no, in a series, potentially
and that's what's up with this thread too, and obviously with the photographer. she shoots this kind of stuff often enough to easily compile books of the content, and there is certainly a market for rural detritus.
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>>2927937
>implying that consumer monitors aren't over saturated over bright as standard.

You're a joker.
Out of curiosity isi, what monitor and calibration tool do you use?

>>2927974
>implying quality of reproduction is unimportant to an artist.

So I'm guessing recording studios just grab a beko travel radio to listen to what's being recorded, right?

>>2928239
Hey, isi's not a faggot, haven't you heard, she has a boyfriend that's always away at war, so brave.

>>2928253
>you're mean to this one girl that's a cunt to everyone, therefore misogyny.
Cool, just so I'm aware, those that defend isi have a massive superiority complex because she's female and must be treated like a tiny china kitten. Well done isi, goooood isi.

>>2928254
>checks previous thread
>abandoned by isi when people turned on her for previous behaviour and asked her questions she couldn't answer

Lol. Maybe isi is the problem

>>2928297
Holy fuck, isi are you admitting that you regularly take sub-par photos. And no one in here fears boredom, they looked at your shots didn't they?

>>2928298
Books of sub standard photos of depressing trash,
Set up a kickstarter and lets see how many people want to see that

>50 or so more replies, poster count doesn't change, isi, get yourself another couple of mobile devices on different networks so you can sockpuppet more effectively.
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>>2928305
And Moopco has awoken for the day.
Remember not to vaccinate your kids lest they turn out just so.
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>>2928305
>>abandoned by isi when people turned on her for previous behaviour
That's...what? Who turned on who?
I assume she made a new thread because the other was near bump limit as they all tend to go quickly.
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>>2928305
>abandoned by isi when people turned on her for previous behaviour and asked her questions she couldn't answer
>previous behaviour
There's your problem poopco, you hold a grudge longer than a teenage girl for fucks sake

>50 or so more replies, poster count doesn't change, isi, get yourself another couple of mobile devices on different networks so you can sockpuppet more effectively.
>coming from poopco
lmao that's rich
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>>2928314
Didn't she make a girl break up with him or something like that though
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>>2928317
No, she swatted another member of /p who was depressed. Attempted to doxx another members girlfriend. Sent messages to another members girlfriend saying he was stalking her.

She's fucked in the head.

>>2928307
Not moopco, he's not the only one happy to call out isi on being a cunt.
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>>2928335
>No, she swatted another member of /p who was depressed.
That wasn't isi. The only thing she's ever done is post quotes from moopco superimposed over photos of him.
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>>2928340
>damage control intensifies
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>>2928340
Its common knowledge isi swatted him. This is pathetic.
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>>2928354
It's not damage control when you've done no damage but simply tried to fan the flames of drama you clearly weren't around for.

Everyone knows which trip swatted another; and it wasn't isi
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>>2928305
>so Im guessing recording studios just grab a beko travel radio to listen what's being recorded, right?

No. But if your recording upon playback requires a studio-level setup, and is completely inaudible on the travel radio, you might A) want to think over what the fuck you're actually trying to accomplish B) stop broadcasting your recording over the radio and leave it for the studio environment only, the way you intended, instead of being angry at the radio listeners for not understanding your greatness.
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>>2928358
>falling for my bait

Recording studios actually use multiple different setups, 99% of the time yamaha ns10's are used as an emulator of shit hifis/car radios/etc as that's where the music is likely to be listened from.

However the ns10's are used more like a final check, the vast majority of the work will be done on very high quality, reference speakers, such as classic celestions.

The point is they sound good on all equipment because you've worked from the top down. Unlike if you mastered on ns10's first you will probably have a shit ton of sibilance and wooly undefined bass. Do your color on a good, calibrated monitor, then check it on a cheap mobile device, if it looks good on both, it will look good to most. This is clearly not the case with isi's shots where there is always more than one person commenting on the dull, flat colors.
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>>2928356

>Everyone knows which trip swatted another; and it wasn't isi

I was in irc at the time, I'm well aware of your role. Denial won't erase your guilt you weirdo freak, no wonder you live in the middle of bumfuck nowhere with just your family.
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>>2928365
Then why is isi friends with the guy that got swatted?
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>>2928367
She's not.
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>>2928340
Why are you posting about things you clearly have no clue about?

Oh wait, this is 4chan after all.
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>>2928340
>The only thing she's ever done
And continually shitpost on /p/ just to stir up anger. Anybody who ever spent any time in IRC knows that. This is all just a game to her.
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>>2927727
Fuck off, nigger. If anything, the photo needs more isi.
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>>2928335
>No, she swatted another member of /p who was depressed. Attempted to doxx another members girlfriend. Sent messages to another members girlfriend saying he was stalking her.

I can see her doing that.
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>>2928466

you are doing it wrong, rookie. you needed to pull a narrow curve downwards on the mid tones, that way you get grey, flat and shitty mid tones. they are not dark photos, they are dull.
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>>2927685

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>>2928504
Shit. I'm sorry. I applied a reverse s-curve to really fuck up the contrast in the mid tones, and then I lowered the white point a bit and added some heavy, lopsided vignette.

Is this getting closer? I'm new to isi'ing, so I'm willing to take some tough critique.
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>>2928384
>this is all just a game to her
And what is it to you?
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>>2928484
She didn't however. Only newfags believe this.
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Itt: anon reveals his amateur taste
>too flattttt wahhhhh
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>>2928507
you overcooked it
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>>2928535
t. mad.
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>>2928544
t. Newfag
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>>2928527

this is how you do it.

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>>2928530
Serious business.
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>>2928546
t. cucked.
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>>2928547
That's close, but it's too bright overall. When you dulled out the contrast, you brought up the shadows too much. If you're going to isi, it's got to be dull *and* dark simultaneously.
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>>2928535
Trip on , Jamie.
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>>2928551
t. this is a fun meme!
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>>2927695
>>2927696
>>2927698

holy noisy crap.

is this a ricohbro thread?
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>>2928563
What's an aesthetic? I thought that word meant pastel colors and 90s memorabilia
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>>2928563
>thinks that noise isn't intentional

:^p
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>>2928547
>>2928507
>destroying op's lovely greens and yellows like this
Plebby contrast babbys
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>>2928571
>>2928574

its only an aesthetic when it looks good, otherwise is amateur hour. ricoh looks good. this looks like shit.
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>>2928585
One of these days, perhaps, you might wake up an realize that words like "good" and "shit" aren't a description or analysis of anything other than your subjective opinion.

I wouldn't count on it, though.
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>>2928592
>homeschooled redneck thinks "good" and "bad" doesnt exist

not your fault, i guess.
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>>2928600
>homeschooled
What
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>>2928616
Love ya, Sugar. Hope the injury's all fixed up by now.
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>>2928606
Read: introvert special snowflake daddy's little girl
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>>2928618

Yup Im walkin fine, can actually climb into the back of the trailers now, but I have my co-driver do it for me anyway
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>>2928619
but you explicitly said homeschooled, and I'm pretty sure she wasn't
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>>2928622
Wasn't me but you don't have to be homeschooled to be an introvert special snowflake.
In kids it is cute but then it turns into an adult and becomes an annoying useless parasite.
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>>2928634
I think you're projecting your own social ills onto a person on the internet that you've literally never met but I could potentially be wrong
probably not however, it's a safe bet
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Wow this thread is petty. When did /p/ turn into this constant shit?
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>>2928643

troll threads are always run into the ground.
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>>2928647
>posting photos in clear sets = trolling
ok anon I think its time you turn off the aol
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>>2928643
>being this new to /p/
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>>2928650
>believing that isi posts serious sets for serious discussion
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>>2928636
I know a few of these IRL. One is family member.
It just irks me how some people are totally fine being lazy parasites all their life and why I need to spend my hard earned money on a perfectly fit 23yr old who does fuckall all day.
He is the shame of the family but his mom doesn't do the Talk with him.
Isi is the same, I can see all the telltale signs.
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>>2928655
If you're going to meme in an isi thread, you better step up your game.
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>>2928658
Lol undiagnosed mental disorders
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>>2928574
>claims bokeh is a meme but noise isn't

nah senpai, that sounds like you trying to justify being poor and having bad equipment as an aesthetic choice.
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>>2928571
>What's an aesthetic?

pic related is an aesthetic. a well done one at that.
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>>2927727
I actually really like this edit.
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>>2928689
>isi
>bad equipment
lol
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>>2928697
>crop camera
>shitty old lenses
>no monitor
>no spyder
>can't take camera out of iso 800

it's a real good equipment, friend :)
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>>2928693
>no white border
Do you even know how to aesthetic?
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>>2928700
Crop camera that costs more than a 5D.
18mm f2 isn't a vintage lens.
>no monitor, no spyder
>believing she doesn't have a fucking monitor because she doesn't answer your gearfag questions
top lol
>can't take camera out of iso 800
>some of these photos are obviously like iso 52000
You're a real informed poster, friend :)
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>replies dropped from 154 to 151, Isi begins the purge of all the shitposting she's done so far.
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>>2928571
>What's an aesthetic?

Typical fucking /p/

In this sense it means the reasoning behind a work of art - the propositions which form the foundation of the piece.

The early 90s computer aesthetic has become quite popular recently - with its stunted graphics and strange neon compositions. I dont know why it has been so strongly associated with the word "aesthetic" - its like looking at a period in literature and calling it "AXIOLOGY".
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>>2928707
Jesus Burt what the fuck is sarcasm while you're at it?
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>>2928706
>newfag thinks you can delete posts more than an hour old
lol
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>>2928704
the 18mm isn't vintage, but lets see what the reviews say...
>I don't have a lot to say about this lens because, well, it's fairly simple and basic. It is the smallest of the Fujinon lenses, so if you're looking for a compact mirrorless system and don't mind the 28mm equivalent focal length, this is probably your best choice. I wish the corners were a little better behaved, but they're not terrible wide open, and very usable stopped down. That said, a Coolpix A is a better choice if that's all you want (small APS sensor camera with 28mm equivalent lens).

As you can probably tell, I have a hard time getting excited about this lens. It's basic, it's an okay performer for its price, but there really isn't anything special about it. If you need 28mm equivalent at f/2 (and especially at f/2.8 or f/4), then this is your lens.

Oh, ok then.

>Crop camera that costs more than a 5D.
xpro2 - 1400
5diii - 2300
Nope.
Or were you referring to a 12 year old body...
Either way, no camera using the sensor in the xpro2 performs up to the standard of any current full frame camera, no matter what way you look at it.

Also, investing in bodies instead of glass meme.

>You're a real informed poster, friend :)
>buying a camera that excels at native iso
>bumping iso by minimum of 2 stops to remove any pros from using that body
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>>2928713
>Either way, no camera using the sensor in the xpro2 performs up to the standard of any current full frame camera, no matter what way you look at it.

We all can notice that. The images in this thread clearly show that its a camera just barely iphone quality tier. Now, why fujicucks insist on using such mediocre cameras? Are the branding and consumer fidelization strategies so persuasive they cant get better options because it hurts them internally?
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>>2928713
>As you can probably tell, I have a hard time getting excited about this lens. It's basic
No, you clueless gearfag. It is you that is basic here.
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>>2928718
>The images in this thread clearly show that its a camera just barely iphone quality tier.
>>2927686
if you think a phone can handle the dynamic range all of those swamp photos have then I have nothing else to say to you except welcome to /p/
>>2927686
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>>2928722

ever been to a zx thread?
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>>2928724
Yes, and almost all of his photos in his last thread involved either clipped skies, or bloom, or various other issues tied to dynamic range.
if zx bought an xpro2 it would be a great improvement.
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>>2928720
>you're a gearfag
>because you don't know why this
>gear
>is so great

Wut?
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>>2928713
>Also, investing in bodies instead of glass meme.
What is it like to be so insecure in your own ways and stuck to the meme path
do you hate your own photography?
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>>2928731
No, you're a gearfag because you describe lenses with how "excited" they make you, or how "basic" they are
You're a gearfag because gear is the starting point for everything you say.
Sorry if you were confused!
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>>2928733
>you're
You don't really know how this whole internet thing works, do you?
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>>2928735
You're not old enough to be using this website, are you?
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>>2928735
>>2928745

wow quality discussion guys.
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>>2928758
I'm glad you posted, to bring up sophistication in this thread. It was really starting to slip, but you really righted this ship.
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>>2928766

glad to help, buddy. now please keep having this high caliber photography argument, im all eyes.
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>>2928722
>iphone does 12 stops of dynamic range at base iso.
>Fuji sensor does 11.5 stops of dynamic range at iso 800

So, in answer to your question, no, an iphone has more dynamic range than isi's photos.

>>2928720
That's from the dudes review, faggot, it just dropped the green text as there's a page break in the text I didn't edit out.

>>2928732
What's not meme about taking out a loan to buy a camera body that will be outdated before it's paid off when good glass lasts a lifetime.

>>2928733
Talking to the wrong guy homes, and you're quoting a review, no-one off here.
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>>2928770
Cool. Do you want me to argue about the white borders? Or perhaps should I use the fun new meme A E S T H E T I C. Or, perhaps, should I talk about how much of a cunt isi is?

I want to make sure you're entertained.
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>>2928795
>review
filtered

>What's not meme about taking out a loan to buy a camera body that will be outdated before it's paid off when good glass lasts a lifetime.
lol what are you talking about you spaz
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>>2928795

Exactly how poor are you?
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>>2928795
>>iphone does 12 stops of dynamic range at base iso.
>>Fuji sensor does 11.5 stops of dynamic range at iso 800
Now tell me how much dynamic range iso 200 pushed to iso 800 in the shadows has on the Fuji, because that's what you're actually looking at, not iso 800.

>being this argumentative with this little technical knowledge
bet you don't even know how to measure DR, just quote numbers you once read on 4chan. bottom keks.
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>>2928795
>>iphone does 12 stops of dynamic range at base iso.
>>Fuji sensor does 11.5 stops of dynamic range at iso 800
Actually, the Xpro2 has 14 stops at base iso 200, and at iso 800 expanded DR settings it would have around 16.
And this is talking about jpegs. Remember. OPs photos are jpegs.

http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon%20EOS%205D%20Mark%20III,Fujifilm%20X-E1,Fujifilm%20X-E2,Fujifilm%20X-Pro1,Fujifilm%20X-T1

I dislike isi personally a great deal, we've clashed a lot in the past, but it is impossible to suggest she doesn't understand the technical side of photography anymore. Anyone that can master a jpeg based workflow this well does.
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>>2928843
>iso 200 pushed to iso 800
>pushed iso
>on a digital camera

and you wonder why no one takes digifags seriously.
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>>2928845
>master a jpeg based workflow

they all look garbage, what are you trying to say really.
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>>2928852
The fact that you don't take this seriously is why film users aren't taken seriously. Digital pushes far more cleanly than film now. And it has for the past 8 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5LFfQADiWI
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>>2928856
>they all look garbage
Found another badly calibrated monitor. When did /p/ become so basic?
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>>2928867

Hello cat lady.
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>>2928858
>When did /p/ become so basic?

when thirsty virgins started praising some 4/10's snapshits.
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>>2928872
what does this thread have to do with aang??
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>>2928845
I only see 10 stops of dr at base iso according to ze chart.

What am I missing anon?
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>>2928897
the part where thats an xpro1, not an xpro2
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>>2928900
>>2928897
>>2928877
>>2928872
>>2928868
> being this ass hungry
i have a bf
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>>2928905

whiteknights obliterated without recovery.
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>>2928905
>pretending to be isis
>not capitalizing "I"
nope
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>>2928900
Err yeah m8, now add xpro2 - no difference
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>>2928897
The part where it's a comparative against another camera without a control. All this chart can actually tell us is which cameras have more dynamic range than others, not how much they actually have.

Do you know what a stop wedge is?
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>>2928910
>pretending
>being this delusional
sell your rabal anon, buy a xpro2, you dont need to shoot raw, film is the equivalent
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>>2928915
post timestamped xpro2 if real isi
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>>2928915
>sell your rabal anon, buy a xpro2, you dont need to shoot raw, film is the equivalent
>being mad that someone is happy with the jpeg quality of a fuji
well this is very obviously an actual rabal owner projecting, you heard it here first
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>>2928930
>implying I gearfag
dont be mad anon :^)
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>>2928930
Now let's not be cruel, Rebels are very useful. I still use mine to this day!

>>2928934
aren't you a joker

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>>2928939
canon crop is shit objectively, sell it
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>>2928939
>destroying a perfectly good camera instead of using it
fuck you you entitled daddys princess cunt
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>>2928952
Legend has it the shutter mechanism gave out after 6666666 actuations, the final image being a tree stump in the shape of a human person.
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>>2928952
>perfectly good
>canon
>xxxD series
>daddys
>princess
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>>2928697

>Fuji milc and 18 f2
>digilol
>good equipment

>>2928704

>costs more than a 5d
>implying it's better than a 5d
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>>2928958
Shut the fuck up, Sugar, you're going bald waiting to take your first good photo.
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>>2928906

#rekt
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>>2928959

All the classic greats were bald with few exceptions. Most of them had beards too js
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>>2928963

FATALITY
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>>2928963
what did isi mean by this
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>>2928958
>>2928960
>>2928961
>>2928966
Have you just got to a truck stop and forgot to say decaf?
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>>2928970

>implying I drink the brown jew

I have got to be the only truck driver that doesn't drink coffee
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>>2928974
Carob soya milkshake?
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>>2928973
pls explain your memes to those of us that arent gay for art
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>>2928963
>>2928973

wow this really made me rumiate.
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>>2928978
They're from dante's inferno

Aside from that I'm not sure what the dude means by it
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>>2928981
He's doing his bit to 404 the thread.
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>>2928981

it means that he is a very sophisticated whiteknight.
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This board is shit, and it's not because of trips.
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>>2928986
>the divine comedy
>sophisticated
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>>2928986
>very sophisticated
are you from Alabamy too
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>>2928988

thank you for helping us getting a little closer to 404!
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>>2928991
>not realizing that 404ing isi threads just makes isi threads take up more of the board
You know she's going to start another one, she takes more photos in a week than most of /p/ does all year.
Good job, man.
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>>2928991
Just because the thread has hit bump limit doesn't mean it will 404 faster

That being said I'm surprised none of you salty sailors have decided to spam new threads to try to slide isi threads right after they hit bump limit
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>>2928989

yes im rural and dumb lmao.
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Hey you guys, stop picking on isi. I like isi fotos and threads and it always ends up like this.

Go and make your own thread to be mean in.
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>>2928995
that would involve them needing photos to post, OC photos or she might report them for breaking the rules
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>>2929004
Good point
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>>2929003

fuck off
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>>2929003
>it always ends up like this.

im pretty sure she enjoys the massive bukkakes over her threads each time they happen. she is a girl after all.
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>>2929007
ok i'll go and be mean in your thread and see how you like it
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>>2928845
>Anyone that can master a jpeg based workflow this well does.
That's not really that big of a deal. Hell, it actually simplifies a lot of your post work.
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>>2929009
>ok i'll go and be mean in your thread and see how you like it

lmaooooooooooo how new r u you fucking cuck.

Sugar only gets stronger with bullying. he is a fat fucking retard, but thats what happens.
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I could actually see a lot of this being presented in book form. Reminds me of Excerpts From Silver Meadows by Todd Hido.
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>>2929010
It is a big deal. Getting jpegs right is a lot more demanding than getting raw files right. If you argue this you are literally a retard.
It simplifies your workflow of course because there is no workflow outside of the camera except for cropping. But it also requires more technical ability from the photographer for exactly the same reason shooting film does.
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>>2929012
>todd hido
Watch out, isi will make a joke about name dropping, then one of her white knights will jump on thinking it was serious and seriously attempt to insult you for knowing hido and recognizing similarities.
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>>2929013
Nope

Seriously, getting a good exposure isn't voodoo magic.
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>>2929012
>Reminds me of Excerpts From Silver Meadows by Todd Hido.

thats quite an amount of imagination you have there.
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>>2929016
Limiting yourself from excessive post production and turd polishing and only seeking photos for what they are and not what you can make them into requires quite a degree more discipline than taking photos in spring and changing the green foliage to orange for Tumblr likes.

The amount of cognitive dissonance on this board really tickles me. Filmfags like film because they can get the look they want without needing to understand working with color, but then turn around and get mad at jpeg shooters who are their digital equivalent. I guess its because the results are so much better.
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>>2929021
>Filmfags like film because they can get the look they want without needing to understand working with color

citation needed
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>>2929022
>he can't even do the [citation needed] meme right
just fucking gb2leddit you dont belong here
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>>2929025
>REEEEEEEEEEE

lmao why so salty.
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>>2929032
how do you interpret me as being any saltier than you when youre shitposting a thread because youre salty at the trip
lmao
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>>2929021
I love how you're pretending that there's no skill involved in post processing. Even if you assume someone is just using presets, then again we're back to the point that getting a good exposure isn't dark mysterious art requiring baby sacrifices or calculus.


>cognitive dissonance
There's more than one person who posts on /p/. If shooting jpg gets her the results she wants and the workflow she prefers, good for her. That she has found such isn't that special though. What is telling though is that your skills are so low that you think it is special. That isn't a slight against isi either. Any competent photographer should be able to get the results she gets with the gear she uses in the conditions she shoots. It's literally basic competency.

The aesthetics of her choices are a different topic, but again, there is no voodoo magic to getting a good exposure. Just learn how your camera and it's meter works.
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>>2929075
>I love how you're pretending that there's no skill involved in post processing.
There isn't. Only knowledge.
You need more knowledge to work with the same freedom in a more confined system (i.e. jpegs)

Raw processing on this board is very clearly 90% about polishing turds and erasing your mistakes, not about fulfilling a creative vision.

I won't ask you to prove me wrong with your own photos because I don't like putting people on the spot like that. I know it's stressful.
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>woman posts photos on photography board
>some of them are breddy gud :DDDDDDDD
>entire board shits itself to death
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>>2929079
I don't think you know what "skill" actually means.

>on this board
I never claimed that this board was chock full of competent photographers.

>I won't ask you to prove me wrong with your own photos.

You obviously don't know how statistics work either.

>something about more restrictions being harder to work with

Actually, for many people, limitations are helpful to the creative process. Too much latitude becomes paralyzing.

But please, keep trying to convince people getting good exposures is difficult.
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>>2929081
>Actually, for many people, limitations are helpful to the creative process. Too much latitude becomes paralyzing.
Did you actually just argue with me by saying the exact same thing I just said?
Holy bumblefuck.
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>>2929085
Not by a long shot. You're just so damn stupid you interpret it that way.
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>>2929081
You're right anon, I prefer to only populate my mind with my own experiences instead of getting carried away in defending or assaulting positions based on "statistics" or "conventional wisdom"

We all find our place in the world in different ways. Some people just want to fill their slated role, you know?
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>>2929086
No, man, you definitely did exactly what he accused you of;

Him:
>You need more knowledge to work with the same freedom in a more confined system (i.e. jpegs)
You:
>Actually, for many people, limitations are helpful to the creative process. Too much latitude becomes paralyzing.

Unless you think that raw is the more confined system...are you a waterhead anon?
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>>2929087
Oh Lord...you actually think that's biting and witty?!

Buddy, life is going to be painful for you.
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>>2929091
Looks like it bit you pretty hard, yeah.
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>>2929090
You're bad at language if you think those are even kissing cousins.
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>>2929094
Explain the difference without making yourself look like a bigger moron.
I believe in you.
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>>2929094
>>2929097
>20 minutes later
BTFO
T
F
O
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>>2929101

>20 minutes later

Still autistic... both of you.
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isi threads always bring the best out of /p/
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>>2929013
>Getting jpegs right is a lot more demanding than getting raw files right. If you argue this you are literally a retard.

On what terms?

If you're talking exposure, well...that's stupid easy to nail with modern cameras.

If you're talking about color balance, contrast, sharpening etc., I'm not sure why it matters if you get that right in camera or in post, since they're pretty easy to manipulate after the fact. I'd rather do that kind of fine tuning on a big color calibrated display than on the back of a screen but that's just me.

Yeah there's not as much latitude and maybe some people like that kind of limitation. I like to discipline myself with my images too, but shooting in jpeg is not one of those ways.
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>>2928987
underrated and the only valid comment ever on this board
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>>2929080
>woman posts photos on photography board
>woman posts photos
>woman

after years and years of saying, you fuckers still don't get that isi is not a female.
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>>2929013
>But it also requires more technical ability from the photographer for exactly the same reason shooting film does.

thanks, guy who has never developed or printed his film.

If you're saying that jpeg shooters are like the folks who drop their film off at 1-hour photo labs for a $7 pack of 4x6" glossies, then hell yeah you're right.
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>>2929146
your memes are weak
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>>2929157
just ask "her" :^)
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>>2929141
>Yeah there's not as much latitude and maybe some people like that kind of limitation. I like to discipline myself with my images too, but shooting in jpeg is not one of those ways.
its not a real viable option to shoot raw+jpeg and do your raws in camera unless you have an xpro2. Its the only camera with a backscreen of its specs. The other Fujis are a lower resolution and much worse screen.
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>>2929169
Ah, I thought we were talking about shooting jpeg in general as a form of creative limitation/challenge. And I thought we were still giving room to change the jpeg output settings, like the contrast and sharpness. I know Ken Rockwell does this and brags about it on his site all the time, so...
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>>2929198
No, I'm talking about it as a general replacement for shooting raw as that's what OP has done. It has a sophisticated in-camera raw conversion system, and the back screen is perfectly calibrated to the sensor (the EVF is actually a little too blue I've heard)

When you can push a file 4 stops or pull it 3 in camera, can push and pull the shadows and highlights seperately (read: curves in a different UI), set color shifts, and start with a nicely color balanced film simulation in the first place, much of the raw workflow becomes obsolete unless you're doing heavy composite work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Bww3u8L_0
Here is a video to demonstrate the power of the system.
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>>2929202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHvCkRTK4_g
I linked the wrong video
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>>2929204
i shoot raw and then process in camera on my gr
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>>2929227
Yes, there are a few cameras that can do it, but none to the level of the Xpro2/XT2 and other third generation Fuji cameras to come.
>>
so what we've concluded is fuji is the pinnacle of snapshit cameras and currently hopeless for tethered or even untethered studio based photography. No wonder isi bought that camera.
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>>2929233
>he thinks studio photography is the realm of high art
rofl
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>>2928945
What's shit about canon crop?

A rabal at base iso outperforms an xpro2 at iso 800, has better lenses, better af, better battery and ergonomics, arguably a better jpeg engine. The old ccd models are especially good, if you want a ccd body.

>>2929013
>getting jpegs right
implying any of these look "right", they look like tommy the pinball wizard got his hands on nik effects.

>>2929021
>filmfags get the look without understanding colour
You've never shot film, or processed paper, you can make huge variations to your colour in the dark room.
Also film is A E S T H E T I C, isi's shots have an aesthetic, if she had greater control over her colour she could create some sort of pleasing colour palette, however she's not got past fucking with sliders, didn't do very good, then tried to make jpeg non meme and failed.
Can you name an artist apart from ken who uses jpegs?

>>2929075
>learn how to meter
No need, the evf shows a wysiwyg of the image with the jpeg settings. She just scrolls the shutter speed back and forth until it looks shit, petrified of blowing any whites.

>>2929079
>jpeg presets require more knowledge than being skilled at lr/ps
Lol, you keep believing that isi.

>>2929080
Yo ambush, these are considerably worse than your photos, you don't get to catch a break and you're not a massive cunt to everyone on the board. It's nothing to do with gender, loads of guys get shit flung at them.

>>2929169
>low voltage, thin screen of unknown specs and not calibrated
No, this is not a suitable environment to analyse photos, it's a quick preview and a way to chimp for sharpness.

>>2929228
If you have to not use a pc, sonys can wirelessly tether to a phone/tablet (which can have their screens calibrated, and the screens are of a much higher quality.)
So you can then edit your raws in your mobile image editing app in a colour controlled environment.

It's a shame as fuji cameras can produce really lovely tones if edited carefully. Pic related

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>>2929242
>A rabal at base iso outperforms an xpro2 at iso 800, has better lenses, better af, better battery and ergonomics, arguably a better jpeg engine. The old ccd models are especially good, if you want a ccd body.
Jesus Sophie you really need to learn your camera information from someone other than an autistic manchild that wears ironic t-shirts.
And also how to focus on an eye.
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>>2929242
>(which can have their screens calibrated, and the screens are of a much higher quality.)
>No, this is not a suitable environment to analyse photos, it's a quick preview and a way to chimp for sharpness.
Confirmed for never using an Xpro2.
Yes, I see your camera is an Xe1. Yes, the screen on that camera is completely shit and useless for anything.

isi knows how to shoot interesting subjects within a theme. this is what actual artistry is made of. not how much you've learned to work in the "digital darkroom"
How many masters do you think actually developed and edited their own photos? Your answer to this will reveal a lot.
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>>2929243
keep your trip on when you shitpost, shows you don't hide behind anonymity. Secondly, I don't know who sophie is.

>inb4 i dont know myself
I'm not sophie
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>>2929245
>How many masters do you think actually developed and edited their own photos?
Ansel Adams for film, JoeyL for digital, there is two of the many who do :^)
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>>2929248
https://sophietowlson.wordpress.com/portfolio/bertie/ okay sophie
but I'm not isi, I'm Kevin
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>>2929249
>Ansel Adams
>master
>of anything but marketing to tourists
absolute and utter lack of artistic knowledge, you probably watch a lot of youtube tutorials.
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>>2929245
>How many masters do you think actually developed and edited their own photos?
lol tard, nearly every film photographer, most digi shooters depending on their projects and their preferences.

>>2929251
this sophie chick sucks

>>2929252
> being this retarded
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>>2929252
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>>2929253
>lol tard, nearly every film photographer, most digi shooters depending on their projects and their preferences.
I said masters, not hobbyists. If you're always shooting, you don't have time to do mechanical uncreative jobs like development.

>this sophie chick sucks
you be nice to moopco's main squeeze
https://sophietowlson.wordpress.com/portfolio/tim/
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>>2929255
>/p/ has fallen so far that people think you're baiting when you say that ansel adams is the thomas kinkade of photography and contributed little to the art beyond technical manuals, and that most of his most famous compositions were photographic revisions of already existing paintings of the yellowstone landscapes
oy vey I can feel my heart valves paining
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>>2929257
yes as >>2929249 this negroid mentioned, JoeyL.
Then there are youtube photographers like that bald english guy. You shouldn't "always" be shooting, thats retarded, a cook doesn't always cook, a write doesn't always keep writing, they always decorate/re-write/improve their shit, equivalently, photographers retouch.

>>2929259
you're still retarded lad
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https://sophietowlson.wordpress.com/portfolio/elspeth-van-der-hole/
> Though she has faced adversity that would embitter even the most resilient of people, she has retained the most enchanting softness, and the fiercest determination of any person I have yet to meet
oh praise kek this stuff is comedy gold, who writes like that
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>>2929261
>JoeyL
>master
lol lol lol
could you do me a favor and name 15 photographers you consider masters if joey l qualifies
thanks
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This is by far the most shitflinging I've seen in any isi thread in every direction possible
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>>2929261
>equivalently, photographers retouch.
So does OP. She does it in-camera instead of on her computer. That's been mentioned multiple times in the thread. But if you get a result thats where you want it straight out of the camera, why should you edit the raw file when it happens? Because a voice inside you tells you that its not 'real art' if you don't do it that way?

And you think OP is the one deluding themselves? HAHAHA
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>>2929265
Well, for months the call was "IF ISI WOULD STOP TRIPFAGGING WE WOULD ALL STOP" but now she's just simply namefagging instead of tripfagging and, Cotton, I'll be honest, the field is wet with piss.
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>>2929268
>How many masters do you think actually developed and edited their own photos?
I was answering that, what you just replied with was pretty irrelevant :^) unless you're saying that "masters" develop in-camera (^: for which I need not say anything for your name is isi.
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postin in troll thread.
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>>2929264
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This thread looks really gorgeous on my iMac, and really bad on my Dell Latitude.
Why?
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>>2929278
shit looks good on imac
dell latitude displays things as it is
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>>2929243
The eyes are in focus

What's not true about those canon facts?

>>2929245
Can you give any citations of photographic masters that don't touch their shot after taking it?

No, didn't think so.

>>2929263
L2socialmedia, she's owned a camera for approx 3 months and is taking paid work already. How's your turnover isi?

>>2929278
Because you haven't calibrated your screens
Apple are always too bright and saturated, dells tend to be fairly accurate
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>>2929273
Why is it whenever your photos get ripped on you try to declare it a troll thread?
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>>2929285
she's lonely, let it go
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>>2929284
>Apple are always too bright and saturated, dells tend to be fairly accurate
literally nothing you say is ever accurate, lol
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Just a couple more posts before this drops off,
Well done /p, you contained an isi thread with just 39 posters, 4 of them were me, at least 3 were isi.

Good job all round guys.
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>>2929284
>How's your turnover isi?
isn't isi an art school type of photographer? I doubt she's worried about taking generic portraits for $20 lol
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>>2929284
>L2socialmedia, she's owned a camera for approx 3 months and is taking paid work already.
So she's literally the stereotype of a rebel user that we usually make fun of on /p/, but you want to defend her because you're attracted to her.
Moopco, you are so painfully autistic.
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>>2929288
>people actually spam isi threads with lolsorandum trolling to hit bump limit faster

you really cant make this up

you do realize she probably spent less time taking those photos than you took shitposting in this thread alone right?
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>>2929284
>Can you give any citations of photographic masters that don't touch their shot after taking it?
Henri Cartier-Bresson
Robert Capa

People that considered post-processing to be crucial to photography: W Eugene Smith.

Guess which of these 3 sucks at composition?
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>>2929289
>paid a lot of money to go to art school
>isn't concerned about making money from art

Lol

>>2929290
Nah, she understands exposure and lightroom just fine.

>>2929294
>citations
>gives names

Good job anon
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>>2929294
>Capa
him :^) he's shit
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>>2929269
>and, Cotton, I'll be honest, the field is wet with piss.

kek. I died.
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>>2929292
>you do realize she probably spent less time taking those photos than you took shitposting in this thread alone right?
Fucking this. isi doesn't save her photos for weeks at a time so she can have enough to make a thread, she goes out on a walk and comes back with 30 photos and posts them.

She's not trying to make every photo a stand-alone piece of art, even though we've seen plenty of times now that she's capable of that. She's communicating the transient nature of her surroundings. If you've only seen one isi thread you don't realize this, but after you've seen another version of >>2927701 pop up for the fifth thread in a row, its obvious there's more going on.
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>>2929294
>Comparing a professional on a payroll to a jpeg preset

Holy fucking keks, the delusion is real
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>>2929297
>>paid a lot of money to go to art school
>>isn't concerned about making money from art
>>everyone is poor like me
isn't is well-established /p/ lore now that isi is a rich neet not entirely unlike H.C.B?
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>>2929300
You mean mama and papa bear kick her out of the house once a week and this is her journey to and from the local job agency.
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>>2929303
She took out a loan for her camera body
So, no.

Also, she drives a shit heap, that's her parents, I've never known rich people to buy shit vehicles.
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>>2929301
>professional on a payroll
>professional
>photographer
The delusion is real indeed.

>>citations
>>gives names
>Good job anon
Your newfag and uneducatedfag is showing if you need a citation on how H.C.B. didn't process his own photos and was adamantly opposed to cropping, or about how Capa was always busy and never developed his own work and died with thousands of undeveloped rolls, or how his assistant famously ruined his D-Day photos.

And that's the problem on /p/, the loudest most obnoxious posters other than isi are almost all eternally stuck in their first 6 months of photo knowledge. and the problem with isi is she knows she can trigger these people eternally to the detriment of the board.
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>>2929306
>She took out a loan for her camera body
No, she opened a credit card that was preapproved for several grand. I remember the thread.
That's quite different from a loan. Sorry you're not an adult and don't know these things.

>Also, she drives a shit heap, that's her parents, I've never known rich people to buy shit vehicles.
She drives a Mini Cooper dude...
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>>2929307
If you knew more you would be aware hcb and capa, whilst not hands on, had full creative control and were incredibly anal about the end result.

Also, can't help but notice that you've only mentioned guys from way back when, Beatles recorded all their best stuff on a 4-track, is it still the best tool for the job?

>>2929308
>borrowing money off the bank
>not a loan

>thinking mini's are aspirational.
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>https://sophietowlson.wordpress.com/portfolio/elspeth-van-der-hole/
vs
>http://jamiewilliams.22slides.com/
>someone is actually arguing the first link is a better photographer than the second link
>that someone is pretending not to be moopco
it's time to take a break, poopco
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>>2929309
>If you knew more you would be aware hcb and capa, whilst not hands on, had full creative control and were incredibly anal about the end result.
So you can be incredibly anal about the end result by scribbling notes to a teenager who works in the darkroom, but you cannot be incredibly anal when shooting jpegs on a camera that lets you adjust an S curve in real time.
Tell me more.
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>>2929307
Hcb didn't process most any of his stuff, but he really didn't give a shit about cropping. A good portion of his best shops are cropped. Yes, he preferred to avoid when possible, but also knew you did what you had to to get the shot.
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>>2929313
Only one of HCBs well known photographs is cropped, the man jumping over the puddle. Not "a good portion", just the one.
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>>2929311
why do you have isis site saved anon
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>>2929288

im glad my work is appreciated.
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>>2929322
Because I save most peoples websites in a Word file because I come here for the photographs, not to read people insult each other over their camera choice or workflow.
Her website is very photo-rich and text-deficient and I like that.
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>>2929326
thats actually a good thing, nice anon. Mind posting some sites?
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>>2929311
>http://jamiewilliams.22slides.com/
Why does she keep posting trash like this thread when she has so many better photos on her website? ffs
now I know she's just another fucking troll
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>>2929330

>>2928647
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>>2929315
Paul Bunyan also had a giant blue ox, and George Washington never told a lie.
>>2929330
>now I know she's just another fucking troll
It's seriously taken you this long top figure that out?
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>>2929330
actual answer:
because she's currently infatuated with this guy
https://vimeo.com/3012856
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>>2929333
>Paul Bunyan also had a giant blue ox, and George Washington never told a lie.
You do know that HCB's photos have the border of the negative left in to prove they're not cropped right? stop digging yourself deeper...
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>>2929335
fuck alabama is a shithole
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>>2929338
It's very a e s t h e t i c though.
Not everyone needs a gourmet coffee shop to function.
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>>2929339
I said shithole not rural. Places like Tibet are rural, Alabama is a shithole, between modern age and rural culture.
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>>2929337
Yet probably his most famous shot was cropped.

What does this tell us anon?

That's right, he should have been more objectively focused on producing a good image instead of sticking to memes.
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>>2929342
thread hit bump limit
fuck off now
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>>2929341
I said aesthetic not rural.
Alabama is also the definition of rural though.
The dichotomy between the new and the old is the entire point of this kind of photography so I'm going to assume you don't get it and are still in your "art is only what I find beautiful" phase.
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thread status: cucked
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>>2929342
>Yet probably his most famous shot was cropped.
Guy on bike? That's not cropped. Man jumping over puddle isn't famous for being one of his good shots, its famous because it's always used in textbooks as an illustration of "the decisive moment", HCB himself was ashamed of that photo and remarked that he only cropped it because there was a fence in the way.

Besides, isi does crop, sharpen, clone, etc so this whole conversation is stupid and moved goalposts.
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>>2929345
>she thinks america can be described as rural
>never more than 15 minutes from a McDonald's

Lol.
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>>2929348
>i do clone
>posts sooc jpegs proudly

Lol
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>>2929349
>he thinks I'm isi and not just a guy that has a crush on her
lol
>never more than 15 minutes from a McDonald's
You have obviously never actually been to the United States if you believe that.
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>>2929348
>yeh but hcb didnt even like his 2nd most popular photo so you disproving me is moot, and the goalposts have now changed because you answered my question

Lol
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>>2929345
aesthetic can not be shithole :^) don't be so defensive when you're wrong isi
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>>2929353
15 mins was a metaphor but you're ESL or american so thats understandable
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>>2929354
>2nd most popular photo
No, HCB did not hate this photograph. Try again.
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>>2929345
caught for ghosting isi
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>>2929356
>15 mins was a metaphor
>hurr durr I was only pretending to be a retard
so are you moopco or the dense broad?
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>>2929337
Not all of them, and some publishers have added black borders to cropped images to imply that they weren't.

He'd also burn rolls of film just to get a single shot.

Yes, avoiding cropping and one exposure per motive are great goals and all, but the world doesn't work that way. That's something that bothers me about people like you: You have to have the myths to believe a great man great.
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>>2929362
I never said all of them, did I?
>people like you
whoa, edgy
>You have to have the myths to believe a great man great.
I don't believe H.C.B. was great, just prolific. If we're talking about myths, here's one- that isi isn't one of the most prolific and talented photographers that regularly posts work on /p/.
She might not be Alex, but she posts more often than he, and certainly more often than any of the other tripfags, and it's always inflammatory and thankless.
You should treat one of your boards largest content creators better.
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>>2929366
>whitekighting for isi
>quantity over quality
>comparing isi to alex
>projecting this hard
t. Ricky
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>>2929371
I want you to honestly tell me what isi did to piss you off so badly but I don't think you have it in you to be honest
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>>2929366
>She might not be Alex, but she posts more often than he
>comparing digital to shooting 4x5 large format film
HAHAHA holy shit you're a dense cunt
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>>2929361
That wasn't even me,
I was finding out just how prevalent mcdonalds were compared with Europe.

The answer is very, america averages about 60 mcdonalds per 100k citizens, europe is about 15% of that, with our top scoring country at 23 per 100k.

If the uk had maccas as densely populated as america there would be 33 in bristol alone. Alarming.

>>2929358
>Thinking this is more popular than man and puddle.

>thinking the quality of art is down to the artists preference

Anon. Are you even trying?

>>2929366
>treat the boards largest content creator better
Fucking millennial, you don't get rewards for participation in the real world.
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>>2929366

go away ricky. no one likes you.
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>>2929374
>being visually illiterate and trying to make up for it by latching onto a larger film size
t. Charles
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>>comparing digital to shooting 4x5 large format film

not only that, comparing crop digicrap with 4x5 slide film, what a jester!

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>>2929375
>If the uk had maccas as densely populated as america there would be 33 in bristol alone
You do know how big America is don't you buddy?
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>>2929379
>not understanding 'per capita'
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>>2929380
>not understanding that a per-capita stat tells you nothing relative to population density across a broad continent versus an island
you are literally autistic and also literally retarded
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>>2929373
nothing desu, what pisses me off is you. I'm fine with her shitposting/posting photos, her ignorance is always good for a laugh. You however are the pinnacle of cringe, grow up and learn to critically think.
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>>2929384
>her ignorance
I've never actually seen isi proven wrong in an objective sense, about a single thing.
>You however are the pinnacle of cringe, grow up and learn to critically think.
who is "you??"
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>>2929385
> I've never actually seen isi proven wrong in an objective sense, about a single thing.
HAHAAHHA
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>>2929378
I was talking more about time consumption.

Anon compared an afternoon walking around shooting multiple photos on digital, to walking around for hours finding a specific composition,setting up large format equipment, metering a scene etc and then waiting more hours/days for the right light to take a single exposure. And anon wonders why Alex doesn't post often... he doesn't seem to understand quality over quantity.
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>>2929387
>Anon compared an afternoon walking around shooting multiple photos on digital, to walking around for hours finding a specific composition,setting up large format equipment, metering a scene etc and then waiting more hours/days for the right light to take a single exposure
You act like these two processes are mutually exclusive because you are delusional, and your work probably suffers for it
You really think isi doesn't do this stuff too? She's been posting mostly foggy moody lit stuff for a few months now, do you think it's always like that where she lives? You don't think it's more likely she waits hours/days for the right conditions for photos?

Get out of here. You're fucking stupid.
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>>2929387
>Anon compared an afternoon walking around shooting multiple photos on digital, to walking around for hours finding a specific composition,setting up large format equipment, metering a scene etc and then waiting more hours/days for the right light to take a single exposure.
http://m2.22slides.com/jamiewilliams/fuji7736-1693491.jpg
http://m2.22slides.com/jamiewilliams/foto4179-1693700.jpg
http://m2.22slides.com/jamiewilliams/foto4128-1693685.jpg
You argue with a straight face that the same isn't being done here?
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>>2929389

are you saying any of the photos found on this thread took hours/days to get them "right"?

L M A O
M
A
O

waifufags sure are something else.
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>>2929387
and I thought isi was retarded

also, guy with websites saved, who I now think is isi because you haven't delivered the sites, you haven't delivered any sites you saved.
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>>2929391
I'm arguing that there is equal intent clearly visible in the fact that she's been shooting this particular style frequently lately.
I don't consider her and Alex equal, but I also don't consider them very similar or see the point in comparing them. Alex makes large prints, isi seems to be interested in loosely organized series and repetition. they're just different. you would probably buy a book from one, and a 6 foot print from the other. different.
Stop typing like that, by the way. You are a (presumably) grown man.
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>>2929391
Some of the particular ones with thick plantlife growing, yes definitely

I'm sure there's places she saw that she wanted to shoot before and after the plants took over

It's why you'll see this one a bunch >>2927701
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>>2929394

i asked you question.
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>>2929395
trip on isi no one cares about your obsessions but you
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>>2929398
What was your question?
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>>2929382
density, as in maccas per human. Density isn't limited to area. I would have thought you had a better grasp, being so dense and all.

>>2929385
>never seen isi proven wrong
Just because you believe her excuses for bad shots it doesn't mean she's right.

>>2929390
>comparing waiting for light to going out when it's foggy

Oh sweet summer anon
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Huh, I looked through these a little more closely
>>2927703
http://m2.22slides.com/jamiewilliams/foto3173-1693656.jpg
>>2927701
http://m3.22slides.com/jamiewilliams/fuji5877v1-1659474.jpg
http://m2.22slides.com/jamiewilliams/foto3177-1693657.jpg
http://m2.22slides.com/jamiewilliams/foto1961-1693411.jpg

>>2927705
>>2927706
http://m2.22slides.com/jamiewilliams/foto3146-1693655.jpg
I guess there's no time spent on this.
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>>2929399
Pretend I'm isi or not, I don't give a shit

Hate her work and who she is all you want but don't go full retard trying to prove you're the most scottish scotsman
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>>2929401
Shut up moopco you big bitch, we were just actually discussing her actual photography and motives finally
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>>2929401
>>comparing waiting for light to going out when it's foggy
Good light occurs twice a day, fog does not for most people. Fog usually happens during good light anyway.

How can you seriously mentally seperate waiting for one condition from another? How can you gymnastic so mental?
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>>2929406
>motives
Snapshit my home town
>actual photography
Jpegs

Lol
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>>2929409
>not understanding waiting for light
Lol
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>>2929402
>desperately pretends not to be isi
>familiar with every building in every photo
Lol
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>>2929410
What's your real aversion to shooting sooc jpeg?

I'm being genuinely serious
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>>2929413
>having basic visual literacy makes me isi
You know she'll take that as a compliment don't you?
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>>2929416
Obsessively remembering a building a no name photographer shoots frequently isn't "visual literacy".
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>>2929420
I'm starting to think that you're so blinded by your hatred (or love) for isi that anyone that makes even the smallest comment about anything is either a whiteknight, obsessed with isi, or isi

You're the only one that's obsessed here
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>>2929420
I didn't remember anything buddy I just opened her website on one monitor and scrolled the thread on the other.
Do you have any background in art outside photography? Just curious.
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>>2929414
The same reason i don't use casio's orchestral hit when playing synth. I create my own midi soft synths and soundbanks. Because I'm an artist, not an organ grinder monkey.
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>>2929423
Put your trip back on isi
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t. Isi samefagging and talking to herself like she does on irc everyday
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>>2929429
>I create my own midi soft synths and soundbanks

That's a really shitty example

It's more like if you were to set up all your instruments and track them into ableton for sampling or dub them live onto a multi-track recorder

You'll get different results for different purposes
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>>2929436
Shooting jpeg is retarded
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>>2929436
>comparing something that applies colour values to raw data to something that applies audio values to raw data with the difference being one is a preset by the manufacturer whilst the other is user decision.

>uh, shitty example anon, that only proves you were right all along

Lol, try harder isi.
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>>2929438
You do know there's more to fuji jpegs than what Sim you're using don't you?
isi has some kind of setup so she has a contrast slider as a button on the camera, she mentions that all the time
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>>2929437
>>2929438
>>comparing something that applies colour values to raw data to something that applies audio values to raw data with the difference being one is a preset by the manufacturer whilst the other is user decision

But with my example they're all up to user decision?

Also you can use custom film presets so what's the problem?

You still have not explained what's so retarded with shooting jpeg you just parrot over and over again that since it's the manufacturer choosing how to process it that it's akin to using a preset on a vst where it's more like choosing a one-step done process to recording
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>>2929441
>has a contrast slider
Whoa.

>>2929442
>you can use custom film presets
Because vsco presets are what all the best photographers use, right?

Lol

Keep digging isi.

Seems like a few more posts standing up "for" isi have been deleted, lol.
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>>2929449
There are no broken link backs indicating deleted posts
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>>2929451
The post count dropped sherlock
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>>2929453
Are you sure that's not your spam being deleted?
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>>2929449
Custom as in making the settings yourself in camera. If you wanted to you could shoot raw and then decide later you want to process it in camera or not

You're just limiting yourself for no reason because someone told you jpeg is bad
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>>2929455
>limiting myself with raw and no meme presets
>limiting yourself to over iso 800 isn't limiting

Lol
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>>2929457
>>limiting yourself to over iso 800 isn't limiting
What
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>>2929455
>implying jpeg isnt objectively worse than raw
Lol
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>>2929458
Isi only shoots 800 iso and up
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>>2929460
Iso on her website says you're lying
But 800 iso on her camera is very good anyway
>>
These photos are awful, am i missing something? Yes I've read all of ops replies and justifications, they don't answer why they are so unaesthetically pleasing and uninteresting.
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>>2929462
Jesus moopco you are one pathetic fag
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>>2929461
Being "good" wasn't the subject, it was about limiting yourself.
>implying base iso isn't objectively better
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>>2929463
I saw his name mentioned, who is he? Why is he important?
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>>2929457
>limiting yourself to over iso 800 isn't limiting

Personally I'm against it because how I like to expose my shots

>>2929459
I'd tend to agree only due to the fact that you can shoot raw and then choose whether or not to process it in camera or not

I'm guessing isi doesn't do it that way because it's an easy way to process everything similarly to make sure that it stays within the boundaries of the style she's going for

That being said pertaining to this >>2929464

Since when has art ever been about the objective quality and not the subjective
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>>2929463
>still blaming moopco for every negative comment
Lol
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>>2929467
>I'm guessing isi doesn't do it that way because it's an easy way to process everything similarly to make sure that it stays within the boundaries of the style she's going for
Isi does shoot raw, she just doesn't process them on a computer.
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>>2929467
>since when has art been about objective quality
>justifying bad art by calling it subjective

Lol
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>>2929469
>admitting to processing your photos on a 3" screen, then trying to defend image and colour quality

Lol
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>>2929469
Itt: /p/ learns about raw+jpeg
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>>2929472
>itt isi gets rekt

Lol
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>>2929471
>thinking that 3 inch screen is insufficient
Sony user spotted
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>>2929469
>Isi does shoot raw, she just doesn't process them on a computer.

Yes I understand this. Re-read my post

>>2929470
You're putting words in my mouth. I never said that isi's photos are good or bad

However saying that a photo is better than another photo because it's shot at iso 100 on a raw file compared to iso 800 jpg is absolutely ludicrous
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>>2929477
>However saying that a photo is better than another photo because it's shot at iso 100 on a raw file compared to iso 800 jpg is absolutely ludicrous

Why, you can always make a base iso photo look like it's been pushed 2 stops, what you can't do is regain the lost information.

So yes, base iso is objectively better.
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>>2929477
>Defining whether art is subjective or objective
>words such as good or bad are unacceptable though

lol
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>>2929490
Only if there is any information lost. On the xpro2 the difference between iso 200 and 800 is marginal and if you adjust your other settings accordingly you wont see any noticeable difference

>>2929499
Good and bad are completely worthless when talking subjectively and once again you're just twisting words. You're the one that said that I was calling her work good subjectively and I was clarifying that I had never given my subjective opinion on her work

We going to have an actual conversation here or what
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>>2929475
>implying having circa 1/40th the screen area to the screen it's likely to be viewed on isn't trash-tier

Lol
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>>2929501
>difference between iso 200 and 800 is marginal
>implying losing 2 stops of dynamic range isn't an issue when there's loads of noise and a complete lack of colour data in OP's photos

Lol

>Good and bad are completely worthless opinions

Lol
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lol post guy is the hero /p needs.
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>>2929504
>Good and bad are completely worthless opinions

I'm beginning to think that whenever you read my posts you're so delusional that you re-arrange the words in your head to fit whatever argument you're convinced you're right about

I'm done trying to have an actual conversation. I wish I could somehow get through to you that you're being just as bad or worse as isi by acting like an actual lunatic
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>>2929512
>Since when has art ever been about the objective quality and not the subjective

arguing that art is subjective

>clarifying that I had never given my subjective opinion on her work

arguing for your lack of opinion

Lol
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>>2929518
just piss off, I can't stand you
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>>2929462
>Yes I've read all of ops replies and justifications, they don't answer why they are so unaesthetically pleasing and uninteresting.
She doesn't answer. That's not the point of this thread. It's just to stir up animosity and to wreck this board. She doesn't give a fuck about answering. She thinks her photos are great.
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>>2929522
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avgl7pMgW9A
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>>2929582
>implying isi isn't desperate for validation
Lol
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>>2929621
I actually don't think she is. She's so convinced of her own superiority that she really thinks she's above everybody else here. She may seek validation elsewhere, but here she just wants to poke a stick in an ant hill.
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>>2929466
>Why is he important?

OP is obsessed with him.
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>>2929695
lmao fuck off poopco, we all know it's the other way round
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>>2929146

You realize you're talking to the guy who made this banner submission, right?

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>427 replies
>44 posters
>which is probably actually 26

jesus christ that has to be some kind of record on /p/
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>>2929873
KEK
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>>2929873
her name is pronounced like "easy" not "izzy" though
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My god you guys are retarded

I hate every single one of you
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>>2929939

Steel works, doesn't matter.
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>>2929939
and all this time I thought it was pronounced "eye-see"
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>>2930149

It rhymes with pissy. This has all been discussed before.

Also, Sugar is actually pronounced "faggot".
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>>2930180
so it's pretty much synonymous with /\M8U5H
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>>2931166

Yes. But it's better than Anon (beta).
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