6x6 Japan

File: kumano3.jpg (632KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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These are from a firework show in Kumano, Mie. One of the biggest shows in Japan. Lasts 90 minutes and consists of about 10,000 fireworks.

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File: kumano2.jpg (417KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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They have a boat drop fireworks in the water as it drives away. Watching the explosions on the water's surface was awesome.

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File: Odai Station.jpg (357KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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I bought a pro-pack of Provia 100F and wanted to try shooting the film in a variety of conditions. Here are a few non-firework long exposures.

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File: Powerlines.jpg (421KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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Having 4 minutes before reciprocity failure becomes a variable is great.

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File: MieMu.jpg (394KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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Last long exposure of a detail of a local museum.

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File: river.jpg (787KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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Next is Provia around mid-day with passing clouds. I read about Provia getting pretty blue in the shadows and this has some slight tweaks to the colors in post. The slide has a cooler tone.

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File: river2.jpg (782KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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I realize this light isn't optimal for Provia but I still wanted to see how it'd perform. I'm planning to only shoot slide for awhile so I'd like to learn how to get the best results possible in a variety of conditions.

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File: Flute Player.jpg (575KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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Wish I had gotten a tad lower to isolate the flute and his head against the water. This was shot closer to late afternoon.

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File: Throwing Rocks.jpg (715KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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Closer to mid day with lots of humidity in the air and the sun behind some thin clouds.

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File: Creeping from Time's.jpg (772KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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In regards to the cool color cast this film seems to have I'm planning to grab a warming filter. Any thoughts as to what would be better; an 81a or 81b?

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File: Taxi Drivers.jpg (589KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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Last of the Provia shots. Really love how the film rendered this scene.

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File: Hostel.jpg (627KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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Next up is Portra 400.

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File: Hostel2.jpg (684KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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Waited a long time for something to happen in the frame. Nothing did so I fired a shot before packing away. Boring, but I think the composition and exposure is nice and I found the architecture interesting.

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File: Some Famous Lake.jpg (540KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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Unfortunately didn't have my grad ND filter for this shot. Apparently this lake is famous for something (like everything else in Japan).

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File: Gion Matsuri2.jpg (612KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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Found myself in the city (Kyoto) during Gion Matsuri.

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File: Gion Matsuri.jpg (608KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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I prefer this version but posted both for comparison and to hear some other opinions.

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File: Solar Farm.jpg (774KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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Going to finish with some 800Z. Got off at a random train stop in the hills and eventually found this massive solar farm that wasn't visible on Google maps.

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File: Solar Farm2.jpg (1MB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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This stuff is quite expired and some frames have a pinkish tint to them.

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File: Tree Backyards.jpg (990KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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I know this has some flaws but I still enjoy it for some reason.

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File: Waiting at the Station.jpg (720KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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Typical Japan ugliness. Planning to shoot a lot more of the ugly side of Japan during the next year.

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File: Kyoto Station.jpg (567KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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Last few frames will be from around Kyoto Station. Playing with 1-point perspective.

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File: Kyoto Station2.jpg (904KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

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Inspired by Burtynsky but didn't even get close.

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Those times when the extra speed of 800Z comes in handy.

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Last frame for now. I have one more 220 roll of 800Z to scan but it is super curled so I'm trying to flatten it under some books at the moment. I'll probably scan and post any keepers from that roll tomorrow.

Any comments/crit on the images thus far would be fantastic.

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Nice shots you got there!
>>2913987
>>2913985
I like these ones especially.
>>2914015
What are the strange blocks on the right half oc the picture there?

Some of the others have clipped black areas. Was the scanner's dynamic range too limited to capture that contrast or is it like that on the originals, too?

>>2914023
Cheers! No clue what those turquoise blocks are to be honest. Perhaps just some building utility access points?

The Provia shots definitely had some unsalvageable shadows. If you're talking about Portra / 800Z shots that's probably due to my editing. I tend to clip the blacks in post to give images a bit more pop.

>>2914006
>asian_stereotypes_apply_to_horses.svg

>>2914055
Eh, this cost me ~$110 in total and was shot over the course of 2 months. Not that expensive when put in that perspective.

Care give some crit?

Cool shots, OP. I've always wanted to filmfag but it's too expensive with my pitiful english gorilla salary and I have yet to find a good deal on a film camera that really appeals to me. If you're ever around Nagoya we should meet up.

>>2914334
I'm in English gorilla too buddy. If you have a digital camera to scan your film with its pretty affordable. Yodobashi will develop 35mm and 120 c41 or e6 for less than 700¥ a roll. I'm an hour south of you so I find myself in Nagoya from time to time.

>>2914297
shoot interesting subjects for starters

p.s. fuck captcha

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Damn, no feedback at all eh? Scanned the last roll. Bumping with a few more images.

>>2914394
Would you say these are empty scenes in need of a subject or action? Or are these scenes completely missing the mark in even being a precursor to a good photo?

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Two long exposures on 800Z. This night outing is what really got me motivated to use my Bronica more frequently again.

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Early in the rice growing season the rice fields act like massive mirrors when filled with water.

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Last one for the thread I guess. Tadao Ando's Church of Light.

Hoping to hear some feedback for things to think about or improve on in the future.

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Very nice tones OP. I think I need to try some 6x6 Provia too. The scans are also nice, what's your scanning rig like? A7 but which lenses etc.

I can't offer any worthwhile critique on the shots since it's not really my style, sorry.

>>2914564
Cheers anon. Scanning rig consists of the A7, Canon FD 50mm macro, my cell phone, an opaque white square that I cut out of a plastic folder, and magnets to keep the film flat.

>>2914557
fav from the thread, saved. Where did you find 800Z?

>>2913975
Wow. Nice colors.

>>2913985
This one is nice. Comfy and atmospheric, and kinda has a story to it. The blueness of the lamp lights might be a bit distracting, but nothing one can do about. Possibly consider trying to shoop out the foremost of the left lamps and see if it would calm down the distraction a bit?


>>2913995
I really like this one, or rather, where it is going. But as you said yourself, the film choice and exposure probably was not optimal. .

Maybe also frame the image just a teensy bit more to the left? Would bring in just slightly more of that background mountain scenry as well of the bend in the creek that leads the viewer into the image.


>>2913996
This one has pretty good potential, but something bugs me. Maybe it's the uglyness of the railway bridge (for some reason my eye is drawn immediately there and not to the guy) and whatever checkered concrete thing is in front of the small dam?

>>2913975
>>2913978
>>2913982

how this 80mm is lovely with your framing!!! it's beautiful!!

>>2913985
>>2913987
neato

>>2913992
>>2913995
wonderful place and framing!!

>>2914560
that grainy is sexy

>>2914555
Not that anon but I like the aesthetic.

You're pretty darn spot on with your self-criticism.

I, unfortunately, don't have enough of the eye to really give much more.

pretty good my mann. i salute the brave souls that still shoot slide film. shits expensive as fuck and rising.

>>2914714
I bought some in bulk a few years ago. ~$2/roll, couldn't pass it up.

>>2914850
Hey, thanks so much for the feedback! Totally agree with your comments. I was worried about that light in the night shot and definitely feel like it's distraction. Not a fan of photoshopping stuff out of photos but doing so would definitely clean the composition up quite a bit.

>>2914908
Cheers Mirari!

>>2915023
Thanks anon.

>>2915026
Cheers! Shoot slide costs pretty much the same as c41 in Japan, which is why I'm planning to shoot mostly slide while living here. It'll be cool to look back at the slides years down the road.

Appreciate the comments/crit thus far.

Great stuff OP, thanks for posting.

>>2914011
this is cool

>>2915256
>>2915260
Thanks you two

>>2914555
Not him, but I'll comment on this photograph here.

I think you couldn't decide what you wanted the subject to be. This >>2913987 photograph makes me think that you maybe saw the tower and wanted to make a similar photograph. But, the couple was the more interesting subject.

I think that cutting the top of the tower off in the frame was a mistake, but the 6x6 format requires you to adjust for something like that where you want to get both something tall in the distance, and the foreground elements in the frame properly.

I feel like you could have made two photographs here, one of each of these elements. I feel like if you were closer to the couple it would make for an interesting photograph with the city and road as a vanishing point in the background.

Nice thread man, glad to see some more 6x6 shots.
Some of the fireworks and night shots remind me of work by Juliane Eirich.

>>2913975
This is incredible, visually grabbing but emotive too
The next two didnt do it for me based mostly on composition. The brightness of the stands is a bit jarring, and their position is a little bit too pushed into the corner with no breathing space, for how dark most of the scene is in both.

>>2913987
>>2913990
I really enjoy these night scenes. The museum is the nicer of the two, but I think this kind of stuff could definitely be explored further.
>>2913992
>>2913995
>>2913996
The lack of DR really detracts from these otherwise nice scenes. But I guess it will take a bit of time to learn how to get the most out of Provia in these scenes
>>2913997
nice
>>2914011
>>2914010
These are two that I'm naturally attracted to. Interesting scene, with nice interplay between the colours and textures of the natural elements and the sleek, stark lines colour and texture of the panels. Something about the composition in each just doesnt quite seem to be clicking as well as it seems that it could have, but they're really nice still
>>2914013
>Planning to shoot a lot more of the ugly side of Japan during the next year.
Looking forward to it, that 'typical Japan ugliness' is definitely good subject matter


lunch breaks over now, but I'll make some comments on the next batch later

Wow what a waste of film and money.

>>2915873
I know right? Partaking in a hobby you thoroughly enjoy is such a waste!

>>2915873
>can't find a genuine reason to dislike any of the photos in the thread
>better leave a vague and indirect comment about how the whole thing was a waste

>>2915655
>I think you couldn't decide what you wanted the subject to be.

Fuck man, spot on. I intrnded for the couple to be the subject, with the tower dominating the left side to scale them down. However, I stayed too far back. Now that you mention it I should have got close enough to completely elimate that wall on the right. I think at that point I would be close enough for the couple to be the obvious subject while still allowing for the tower to remain in the shot for a "dwarfing effect". I moved away from Kyoto last month but will go visit friends in the future and will definitely reshoot with your comments in mind. Cheers!

>>2915669
Awesome to see you comment dude, thanks a ton! Checked out Juliane Eirich; her night stuff is rad. Thanks for mentioning her.

I hear you on the latter two firework shots. I wouldnhave loved to center the stands in the bottom but this was one of very few spots I could set up my tripod (I was also needing to pull a construction fence up high enough above my lens to even shoot from this not-so-great angle). The composition definitely feels a bit wonky with the stands crammed into the corner and bleeding outnof the frame. I was hoping thr fireworks being in the upper left would balance things out but it didn't work as I had hoped.

Glad you like the night scenes!

As for the solar panel shots, again I agree thr comps are a bit strange. I'm not sure what I would do differently to make them better which is frustrating. Also doesn't help they were shot in terrible mid-day light. If you like this kind of stuff check out Reuban Wu's solar farm shots (IG: itsreuban).

I'm living pretty close to Yokkaichi now (major manufacturing area) and have some photo series ideas for shooting in that area.

Thanks so much for taking your lunch break to type that up, super helpful.

>>2915873
>2 months worth of shooting
>~$50 for the film and ~$60 for dev
>~$55/mo on my hobby
For a hobby claimed to be expensive, not bad imo.

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One last image, final bump.

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Nice thread opee, these are my favs
>>2913990
>>2914006
>>2914011

>>2914560
Best photo.
Disappointed with the church of light. Feel like you should have pushed that loads more.

>>2913975
The geometry is great, but the picture is a bit overwhelming for my taste.

>>2913978
Terrible framing

>>2913985
Boring take on an interesting subject.

>>2913990
This is my favorite

>>2913996
The background ruins this

>>2914002
The chairs and plant draw attention away from the geometry. I guess you didn't stand right in front of the building because the shape of the mountain behind the building wouldn't have be as pretty, but that angle makes the building look bad, and an uneventful subject makes the background irrelevant. You should have chosen which of the two you wanted to portrait.

>>2914008
great shoot but you should have isolated the subject better either by taking the picture from farther away or lowering your aperture

>>2914011
>>2914010
This looks too much like Andreas Gursky, only that these pictures are shit and Gursky's are great.

>>2914015
>>2914013
beautiful geometry, very boring light

>>2914562
terrible framing

Basically, you have talent, you have a great eye for finding pictures. However, your composition skills are still lacking. Keep practising, specially your control over light, and don't become too self-satisfied with your work. Also, for the love of God, develop your own style. Most of these pictures look way too much like someone else's work.

>>2916318
My pleasure.

>The composition definitely feels a bit wonky with the stands crammed into the corner and bleeding out of the frame. I was hoping thr fireworks being in the upper left would balance things out but it didn't work as I had hoped.
I imagine thats a huge part of photographing fireworks, a bit of hit and miss with composition due to the difficulty of the scene

Checked out Reuban Wu's stuff, not what I expected but damn a few of those shots are pretty incredible.

>Yokkaichi now (major manufacturing area) and have some photo series ideas for shooting in that area.
Keen to see what comes of it. My house and university are both near suburban industrial/manufacturing areas, and almost every day fr the past 3 years I've thought about getting out and shooting them (one day, maybe)

few more comments just cause I can
>>2914557
super lovely. the only thing that would have been nice is a car/ bike/ something throwing off a bit of light in the dark section of the road in the middle - or a person in the lit intersection.
nonetheless, its nice as it is.
>>2914560
really nice scene, but balance wise it could maybe do with a bit more room in the foreground? maybe thats just me
>>2914562
no idea what the other guy meant to terrible framing - because I feel its really strong. only thing I would suggest is having pushed it further to bring out the detail - even if it blew out the cross completely.

my canon rabal takes better image than this.

>>2919402
I'm happy for you :)

Cool to see you here Tomchy. I remember you from the SP days. RIP SP.

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>>2916510
Thanks anon!

>>2919077
It was really awkward shooting square in there. That, and I had 800Z loaded and was still shooting wide open F3.5 @ 1/60th with no tripod. I took that one frame and spent the rest of the time shooting on the A7 (pic related).

>>2919101
Cheers for the comments. Definitely not becoming self satisified which is why I'm asking for critique. Curious whose work you think these look like though. Aside from the two obvious Burtynsky / Gursky -esque shots that I acknowledged I don't think these are mimicing a particular style.

>>2919326
Thanks again for chiming in. Your spot on about the fireworks. Composition is somewhat out of your control and you can only guesstimate where they will be exploding.

I waited around for about 10 minutes for a person/bike/car to come by. That's a dead end street and the odds of something happening at that time was quite small. Totally feel like it needs something too though.

Funny you mention more foreground. I actually shot the first frame with more and then panned up for the second which I posted. I'll post the other version when I'm back by my computer.

As for the last shot, I was maxed out on aperture and shutter speed. Didnt have my tripod unfortunately. Blowing out the cross would have looked really nice though.

>>2919402
It's not about the camera m8

>>2919832
Mannnnn, that was the BEST website for film photography discussion...medium format in particular. Sad to see it died. I learned pretty much everything I know from there. Cool to see an SP head on here!

>>2922191

It sure was. To bad none of it was achieved. The scanning guides could be useful.