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Does anyone else scan their film with a 50mm lens? I just started scanning my negatives with my dslr and they all seem to come out pretty shitty. Any tips?

>>2908976
Get a kit of extension tubes, they'd turn your lens into a macro allowing you to get more detail, and since you're using the same glass you shouldn't lose quality. Plus they are cheap as fuck and easy to use.

>>2908979
I actually think I have one for my kit lens. I'll try that out. Thanks

>>2908976
I scan with a 50mm Macro. Look into one maybe?

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>>2908976
>>2908979
>>2908981
>>2908985
Use a real macro lense.
If you can't afford a real macro lense, buy any 50/2.8.
Their simple lense design gives OK contrast and sharpness stopped down, as well as a reasonably flat field.
For scanning at f/11 they do fine.
This is an M42 Meritar 50/2.9.

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>>2909006
it's lens, not lense

>>2909039

Lense is a recognized alternative spelling.

>>2908966
Hey /FGT/s, thinking of getting into film photography. I like the idea of experimenting with expired film. But I was thinking of buying a cheap camera (79$ NZD) which includes processing for the first film reel I shoot, if I enjoy shooting with a cheap camera should I think of upgrading, if so whats a good beginner camera?

I really want to shoot re-spooled movie film and get it processed in its own ecn-2 chemistry, no c41 cross processing bullshit, but I haven't found any movie lab that is willing to process such short lengths of film. shit sucks.

>>2909171
35mm film or medium format? Gonna guess 35mm since you're starting out.

For that format, most any SLR you can find out there will do (Canon, Nikon, Yashica, Pentax, Olympus etc.). Personally, I use a Minolta SRT-101 I picked up at a flea market for 10$ and I quite like it

>>2909181
35mm, I was thinking Canon AE-1 as a starter.

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>>2909200
>mfw I'm selling my old ae-1

It's definitely a great camera to start with but you'll eventually evolve to an a-1 or f-1 or both

FD lenses are great and cheap. It's a good choice

>>2909208
>FD lenses are great and cheap
Excellent.
Seeing as I'd be new to film, are there any particular things I should know?

>>2909225
Don't forget to set the iso

If you're going to get an ae-1 learn how to use the DOF preview lever

>>2909226
Thanks anon

>>2909225
if you want to shoot it in the long run, I would recommend learning how to develop and scan it yourself, since it saves a lot of money and is actually pretty easy.

Also keep in mind that it's better to slightly overexpose than to underexpose negative film negative film (reverse for positive film)

What's the cheapest colored 120 film?

I can't find any Superia 120 film anymore and the next cheapest are already the Kodak Portra 160 or Ektar 100.

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I need more developer and I'm so indecisive about it. Sticking with Ilford to support the home team but I'm sick of my Ilfosol 3 going bad before I get to the end of it. My alternative is ID-11, but I feel more comfortable with a liquid developer for some reason.

Anyone else struggle to pick devs/films?

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>>2909347

there is no cheap 120 film. but you can sometimes find inexpensive expired rolls. it is truly the patrician format.

>>2909356
>there is no cheap 120 film. but you can sometimes find inexpensive expired rolls. it is truly the patrician format.


I understand. But what is the cheapest among all the available colored 120 films?

Can I ask why is it patrician when a Holga cam uses it? Is Holga part of the patrician race?

>>2909347
>>2909359
I think hp5 plus is $4 a roll

>>2909361
I'm looking for colored.

>>2909362
www.filmphotographyproject.com

>>2909359
>why is it patrician when a Holga cam uses it

said no one ver.

look, all color film is dead with the exception of portra ektar and i think 400h. its all expensive and in the same range (portra being the most expensive). so your option is a sweet deal on an expired film lot.

>>2909361
>hp5

he asked for color film you blind ass roodypoo.

>>2909364
>www.filmphotographyproject.com
>shipping to my location: $22.00+

They sure sell cheap Ektars. What a loss..

>>2909347
probably ektar or Fuji 160NS/C

>>2909365
>>2909362
Sheeit nigga damn no need to be hostile fuck

>>2909362
>>2909375
Sorry about that man. English is not my native language and I don't know if my language is getting hostile or not.

>>2909374
>Fuji 160NS/C

I will look into this film. Thanks my man.

>>2909362
they prefer to be called "film of color"

>>2908974

>Plastic bayonet.

Cameras of 90s sure were shit.

>>2909365
>>2909408

COLOR FILM MATTERS

B&H color neg 120 sorted by price:

Ektar 100 @ $4.95 per roll
Portra 160 @5.50 per roll
Lomography 100 Color Negative 3 roll pack @ $10.99 ($3.66/roll)

>>2909530
>Lomography """"""""""film""""""""

lmaooooooo, he would be better with 1995 expired slide film left in the sun.

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>>2909352
If you want to shoot HP5, I suggest Tmax Dev.
I really like the skin tones I get with this combo.
Also I like that is softens the grain a little.
Also, it's a liquid concentrate that keeps a long time; very economical. I think you get about 60 rolls from a litre of concentrate.

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>>2908976
>>2908976

Does anyone have a good tutorial on how to scan film properly? I do have a 100mm macro lens and just got into film and I'm loving it...I want to load my pictures onto my computer. How do? pllllsssss gooby

>>2908966
>>2908966

Where do people go to get their film developed? It seems like a lot of stuff to own just to develop 24 pics

>>2909569
>lot of stuff to own
>literally 5 items
>measuring object
>2 bottles
>tank
>changing bag
Don't fall for the bulk kit meme. Film dev is extremely simple, You don't need a £10-20 graduated cylinder/bottle
You can get yourself a measuring jug/spoon for like £2. Even a changing bag isn't mandatory, it just makes things a bit nicer/easier.

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>>2909556
pic related
>>2909569
Well the point is you don't throw it all in the bin after your first roll, moron.
I've probably "saved" more by developing and scanning my own film than I've even spent on photography total.

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>>2909604
What about the chemicals? If it's not that pricey to get into then I would definitely like to try. My dad did CSI and film developing for police but he passed away so it's kind of a homage to him now I'm older.

>>2909617
For black and white film, you only really need your developer and fixer. Two sets of chemicals, developer shelf life varies but there are long lasting one shot (mix and bin) developers like Rodinal which lasts an age.
Fixer can be re-used a few times, and is fairly cheap.
C-41/Colour kits have more chemicals, but it's just a case of mixing and storing correctly. Usually it's best to save up a few rolls before processing. C41 is usually a Developer/Starter, Bleach and fix/stabiliser. Those are best to pick up in a kit, same with E6.

The big thing to get the most life out of your chemicals is to keep them airtight and away from light and heat.

If you're savvy and not completely retarded, the biggest costs of entry are chemicals, developing tank and a changing bag. Once you process more and more film those investments usually pay themselves off in the long run.

>>2909617
For black and white you could probably throw together a kit for around $100 with the essentials plus enough chemicals to develop anywhere from like 10 rolls to several dozen depending on what you choose and how much you reuse chemicals.

I haven't done color, it's a bit more complicated and probably more expensive.

>>2909625
>>2909630

are there any good articles online on developing times, changing bags and troubleshooting?

Also, is there a preferred canister of /p/ that you initially agitate in?

Anyone shoot 120 6x9 and have some examples?

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>>2909352
Rodinal if you want something that never goes bad sitting on the shelf. Supposedly opened half-full bottles are fine after over a decade.

When developing, I noticed bits of while gunk in my dev tank. Then the next day when I checked my film after letting it dry, I noticed while chalky shit on it, presumably the same white gunk I saw, but dried up on the film.

This occurred 3 times I developed. Do you guys know what this white stuff is the symptom of? Pls no cum jokes.

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>>2909631
>are there any good articles online on developing times, changing bags and troubleshooting?

For B&W, I usually just follow the developing time and dillution written on the package of the film, do a wash (no stop bath) for one minute ,use the fixer for 4-6 minutes, do a final rinse for 10 minutes at 20°C water and add some photoflo at the end though that step is optional. B&W film is much harder to fuck up than C41 imo

As for c41, it's pretty much a standard procedure so check what's written on your developing kit (or Google it if it doesn't come with instructions).

>Also, is there a preferred canister of /p/ that you initially agitate in?
I don't know what you mean with initial agitation since I usually do all the developing in the same tank, but I use a paterson tank

>>2909699
cum

>>2909699
I think it's probably just going to be cum

>>2909699
I came

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that "cracked" colorperfect was a clever ruse. it magically became uncracked after a while

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>>2909699
Mineral deposits from hard water? Do you ever get similar marks on your glassware when you do the washing up?

>>2909787
I'd buy it if they would update their archaic windows 98 UI

>>2909787
>Run scanning software in a virtual machine
>Install every time you want to convert
>Don't even have to connect the virtual machine to the net
PURE MAGIC. The same thing I did with Vuescan.

>>2909819
You don't need to do that with Vuescan.

Install it, block it from making connection with the internet, then register it with one of the fake serials that came with the torrent.

>>2909821
Ye, but at the same time I have a virtual machine I can use on any of my computers that's setup perfectly.

Can anyone convince me to/give me tips on shooting black and white film exclusively?

Getting colour film developed is like $30 a roll because I have to do it by mail order (aus) so I'm going to buy some chemicals and a Paterson tank for black and white development.

I feel like I'm going to have to work on my composition more and won't be able to rely on colours/textures as much and focus more on shapes and contrast. This could be good for me I guess.

TLDR; tips and tricks for shooting and developing black and white film exclusively thanks

>>2909678
I love the colours in this.

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>>2909856
I took the same shot on my GR just for funsies.

>>2909530
>Lomography 100 Color Negative 3 roll pack @ $10.99 ($3.66/roll)
>>2909536
>lmaooooooo, he would be better with 1995 expired slide film left in the sun.

Why what is wrong with lomography?

>>2909873
It's quite low quality film and certainly not worth that money given the alternatives you have available.
I got ten rolls of that particular film for free a year or two ago and shot most of them. It's alright for snapshitting but I'd rather shoot Colorplus or Gold or Superia if I'm paying for it.

Some people, hipsters, like that "look," and I guess they're not harming anybody in doing so.

>>2909864
good processing but I must be hipster film loving scum because I prefer the warmer tones of the first one

>>2909873
Nothing, it's all rebranded budget emulsion.
https://www.geekjosh.co.uk/photography/lomography-rebranded-film-guide/

Rollei RPX400 or Kentmere 400 for poorfag bulk rolling? I'm using HC110, pushing 1-2 stops occasionally.

>>2909932
Haven't tried the Rollei but I didn't like the results from Kentmere 400 too much, I liked Kenmore 100 pushed to 400 though

>>2909932
RPX400 is heap good, not as good as HP5+ or Tri-X, but it's definitely a credible option.

>>2909908

I don't like the color palette, but this reviewer thought the film was fine.

https://www.lomography.com/magazine/303768-my-review-of-the-lomography-color-negative-100

>>2910018
>lomography.com
>reviewer though the film was fine

Well no shit captain

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>>2909908
>but I'd rather shoot Colorplus or Gold or Superia if I'm paying for it
This.
For me, the 40 cents or so a roll extra for Superia 200 is worth it every time.
>>2909873
>>2910018
>>2909536
Lomo 100 is definitely the grainiest non-expired film I've ever used, which is not what you want when shooting at 100 ISO. I think the film is probably closer to 25 or 50 if you want the best quality out of it.

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>>2909922
>it's all rebranded budget emulsion.

its rebranded budget shit that didnt even make the cut. rebranded colorplus that didnt match the lousiest kodak QC, i mean LOL.

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>>2910160
It's not as if the colours are that bad. it just need more exposure.
If this is actually VR100 then that's good news, because I have about 40 sheets of it in 4x5 to use, where the grain won't be quite as big a deal.

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>>2910306
Where abouts in Brisbane are you?

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>>2910308
I'm located at avoiding contact with people from 4chan.

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>>2909932
Just get HP5.
You're not that poor.

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I've been using the Nikon L35AF for the past few months. Really nice little camera but I feel like it's time for an upgrade.

What's a step-up from this camera without breaking the bank for a Contax T2/T3?

Has to be compact, autofocus, manual flash override.

>>2910370
>buying into the L35AF

Let me guess, you read that article proclaiming that it's the BEST COMPACT EVER and paid the seriously inflated eBay prices?

>>2910354
>edgy

>>2910370
What exactly are looking for by upgrading? What are you unhappy with with your current camera?

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500mm mirror lens, hand-held. we sports now

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>>2910389
no, we creeper now

>>2910391
would've needed to climb a ladder beside the court to get a shot at this angle with a N O R M I E (DELETE THAT IMAGE) lens.

have some boat creeping

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>>2910395

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Got my first roll back. How did I do? Fujifilm Superia xtra 400 with the Canon AE-1

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>>2910423
I mean, you found the shutter button so...good job?

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Wide angle came in, I'm liking it so far. It's pretty damn sharp as well.

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>>2910573
wide angle on what?

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>>2910578
For my RZ, it's the 50mm ULD.

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>>2910372
Yeah, to be fair it's an okay camera. I didn't pay too much for it.

>>2910373
It can be slightly temperamental sometimes. Annoying that the flash pops up and you have to push it back down again, there's no override button. The viewfinder is awful. Shutter feels horrible. Optically it's okay but vignettes/soft in the corners.

I'm beginning to think my only options are the likes of Yashica, Contax, Nikon Ti etc. All of the decent compacts are massively inflated in price. Even the Mju Ii costs like £80 which is probably comparable to the L35AF.

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>>2910601
>>2910595

These are nice and crispy. I bet they look great in higher resolution than sub-hd.

Also if you want borders you should just leave the physical borders of the negative in the scan. That's a much classier move than little digital borders from 1999.

>>2910611
>Crispy
They are crispy af, this lens definitely lived up to the hype. The "FLOATING SYSTEM" ring is kind of funny, and it's really easy to forget to set it. These flatbed scans are already pretty nice, can't wait to see the silver prints.

>>2910601

wow pretty crispy.

what camera lens combo?

>>2910620
see
>>2910586


Also this is on Acros, which is already a very sharp film.

>>2910624
what did you develop them in?

>>2910624
XTOL 1:1. It's never let me down, and it gives you amazing sharpness:grain ratio with great speed. It works great on Tri-X and delta films too.

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>>2910635
will have to try, been using Rodinal but it's really grainy, especially at higher speeds.

XTOL is a powder developer right? So basically I mix it with water, keep in a bottle and then mix it with water as I need it is that correct?

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>>2910638
>he fell for the rodinal meme
sorry to hear that dude. Rodinal has it's purpose and lasts forever but it produces a lot of grain.

XTOL comes in powdered from, it's two packets, A and B, and its a room temperture mix so no having to heat up water in a pot like D76. Makes 5L, which is a weird amount but you can just pour the extra into a small bottle and use it quick, or throw it out for all I care. Then you just dilute that 1:1 when you want to develop, pour it out when you are done.

it works for me because I shoot a lot and develop a lot, so I always use it up before it goes bad. If you can't use it all up, you might take a look at some other liquid concentrates like HC-110 or ID-11.

If you had to have any Lomography camera in your collection (preferably one with an optional Instax back) which one would it be and why?

>>2910799
I wouldn't, because they're all shit and over priced. C'mon man, you can have any decent 35mm film camera ever made for under 300 dollars. An F100 and 50/1.8 don't even cost that much. An F3 and and any number of mf primes don't cost that much. Hell, you could probably even get into a decent medium format camera for that much. Why are thinking spending money on some marketing monstrosity with plastic lenses is a good idea?

>>2910799
Konstructor! No instax, but I dig the idea of building it. I've sketched out a few camera designs for 35mm or 120 but the shutter always gives me trouble, I'm more of a "drill holes and use brackets" guy than an engineer.

With instax I like the idea of the Belair, cos you can get a few different backs for it. Supposedly they're not great, but they're reasonable and seem fun. The idea of one camera that can do medium format, small format, instax, panaramas, is pretty cool. Jack of all trades, master of none I guess!

>>2910658
Protip: If you don't shoot a lot, dilute into smaller bottles and place them in your freezer.
Just defrost it before using.

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>>2910594
The Mju has the same issue with flash automatically being on when you turn the camera on. It's two quick pushes of a button thst has become second nature to me...but still slightly annoying. Aside fromsize, I don't think the Mju would be much of an upgrade.

>>2910638
This is a great shot. Beautiful light and comp.

>>2910799
Holga. Even after owning"real" 6x6 cameras it's still fun to pic up now and then. Pic related. I bought it when they were cheap though ($29 iirc). Fuck paying more than. $50 for one.

>>2910573
>>2910586
>>2910587
>tfw barrel distortion
Just get an RF already

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>>2910858
The Oly lenses are sharper and contrastier than the L35AF lense.
All of the Canon f/2.8 compact lenses are shitty, that I've used.
By a good margin, the crispest "compact" in my kit is the Fuji HD-M.
38/2.8, sharp across the frame, no distortion.
Horseman put 2 of them on an X-Pan body to make their 3D camera and charged a few thousand dollars for it.

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>>2910896
Your penchant for seeing very minute changes in curvature of series of straight lines may be a symptom rather than a skill, anon, but on't worry - in recent years being on the spectrum has lost a lot of its stigma in the public eye.

>>2910799
Holga. For me it's the Holga tlr with glass lens and built in flash. Didn't cost much, is fun. I would forget the instant backs though.

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>>2910927
I'm not the one taking distorted snapshits of buildings.
>>>>crispy
kek
But if I was, I'd use a rangefinder and get straight lines.

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>>2910969
because the method of establishing focusing distance is the sole factor in achieving perfect rectilinearity. Go play Minecraft or sort household objects by shape and size, anon, maybe that'll calm you down.

just bought my first camera its a minolta maxxum 5 with a minolta 35-70 mm. only shot on AF so far. have not finished first roll how fucked am i?

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>>2911003
>sort household objects by shape and size
Now you're talking.
But symmetrical optical designs do certainly help achieve a rectilinear projection at the film plane, slav, and rangefinder cameras certainly employ these designs more often than not in their wide angle lenses.

>>2910969
>I'm not the one taking distorted snapshots of buildings

No, you're the one taking snapshits of stairs.

>>2911017
As long as you let the camera do absolutely everything, incl. setting the film speed, exposures, and focus, they will be just fine.

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Got Portra 400 from Israel.

3 rolls including shipping $28.80. Not a bad price.

>>2911285

jew'd.

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>>2911031
You both factually defended your point and made a witty retort, kudos. Still, telling someone to get an entire different photo system just to make a few architecture snaps marginally straighter is a very /p/ thing to do. Looking forward to more of your posts regardless, I enjoyed learning something new.

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Copped this beauty a couple days ago. It's so good.

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>>2911341
Ayy, just got this a few days ago too. I just put my first roll of portra 400 in there. How much did you get yours for?

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>>2911357
Got the Pentax ME including the f1.4 lens from a collector for 48 Eurobucks. Not bad I guess as the lens is like new.

>>2911357
That's the ugliest camera I've ever seen

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I need advice /p/

I've been shooting with a Nikon F3 for a while now but I want something a little lighter/smaller. I'm looking at the FA or FE, recommendations?

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>>2909787
>it magically became uncracked after a while
WAT

What are talking about?

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>>2911412
Nikon FE is the best film camera I've ever owned. Highly recommend.

>>2911470
Not that it impacts the photos at all but I've always loved the styling of the FE. People talk about the F3 for having been designed by the Italian fashion designer (sorry bro if you're reading, I forgot your name), but the silver FE is so elegant and uncluttered. Minimalist even. My Canon A1 is supremely ugly by comparison, although very unobtrusive to use.

In other news >>2909352 this was me earlier. I just mixed up my first batch of ID-11. Still a little sketched out by the idea of powder dev over liquid concentrate, but I'll run a few rolls tomorrow and see! Exciting times lads :)

>>2911401
You are wrong.
>>2911357
>>2911341
Fuck me black pentacks on fleek.
I think the pre-Art Sigma 50/1.4 still had an aperture ring in K-mount, it would complete the look on that 80's sex machine.
>>2911412
>lighter smaller
Mandatory recommend of EM.
If you can't let go of your manual control ego, FM3A. The oldest ones are only 15 now, which is practically a brand new camera in film land.

>>2911478
Yeah the F3 was designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro, he also designed many cars and other cameras for Nikon. I love the look of the F3, the FE looks pretty similar to me and a little smaller and that's why I was considering it. I may have to grab an FE in the next week but I would like to see a size comparison. Hopefully I can find one with a 85mm or 35mm nikkor lens

just developed my first 35mm bw film. fun and satisfying as fuck, I didn't expect to get good results

>>2911505

Post photos.

>>2911505
Are you the anon who asked about how to read the directions for developing inside a film packet in the other thread?

Either way, congrats!

>>2911512
Agree. Post photos!

>>2911505
Hurrah! Not as hard as people seem to make out.

Looking forward to pics :3

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>>2911412
The size and weight difference is pretty negligible.

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>>2911528
Thanks for that, do you have an FE you could throw in the mix too? I'm more leaning towards the FE at the moment and would love a comparison between the fe and f3....

>>2911285
>3 rolls including shipping $28.80
>Not a bad price
u wot

>>2911536
No, but I'm pretty sure the FA, FE, FM, FM2, etc are all practically the same size

>>2911540
Word, I just figured the FE/FA would be lighter because they don't have that big ass interchangeable finder/screens. Any other suggestions for a smaller F3-like camera?

>>2911401

i bet you love your lomo marrakesh.

>>2911357
That grip looks like the one on the Panasonic LX100

>>2911379
Not bad. Have you developed anything from it yet?
>>2911554
Oh shit it does haha didn't notice that. I really like the grips on it actually. Feels nice in the hand

>>2911450
the demo jumbled gridlines started appearing

>>2909678
this is cute

>tfw u got 2 bronica s2's and a gw690 coming in the mail

>>2911698
Texas Lecias make my peter unwind. Too bad they're still almost as much as their tinier counterparts.

Found a Land Camera at a relatives house this past weekend in the mountains. Took the corroded batteries out all by myself and made it sparkle and glisten again in the moonlight. However I don't think it's exposing indoors correctly even after replacing the batteries, good thing pack film is a fortune.

Now my images will actually have some worth to them. Thanks Fujifilm!

>>2911704
Are you high?
You sound like you're high...

>>2911704
Texas Leica has become dirt cheap. Usually the do not cost more than 600 in decent condition.

i would like to get a fully mechanical 35mm slr with either m42 or k-mount. i want it to work without batteries (they may be used for a lightmeter). any ideas?

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>>2911736
This question appears in every other film thread and the answer invariably is Praktica MTL 5B or some pentax for M42 followed by that one guy who heckles on the praktica. Let the cycle commence.

>>2911585
I always had them for that plugin. How to make them disappear?

>>2911741
This slav also enjoys dildoing with cactus branches, watering down his beer with bleach, listening to hair metal.
If you'd consider this person to have an informed understanding of what a "good" camera is, knock yourself out.
In countries where the electricity works 24 hrs a day and nobody has to eat turnips to survive, you can instead buy a camera made to compete in an open marketplace, rather than suffice in a command economy.
To meet your arbitrary requirements, I would suggest any M42 mount Fujica SLR.

>>2911732
Including postage, I paid $435 AUD.
I was very surprised when looking to discover that some of the very oldest ones come with normal fucking shutters with a Bulb mode, rather than the awful Time mode that most of them have.
So I got one of those.
It was a toss up between going for that, or getting a mk2 or mk3 and getting a hotshoe, shutter locks and the nice buttons to lock the spools in, as well as a much newer camera.
But the Time shutter really is that fucking annoying.

>>2911512
>>2911516
>>2911527
yes, that's me. thanks, I'll try to scan them later today :3

Has the quality of budget b&w film changed much in the last two decades?
When I look at pictures from ~1997 they seem much fuzzier and noisier.

>>2911790
Real scans didn't exist back then.
Also, this is an absolutely moronic proposition, and useless without pics to describe what you're failing to in text.

>>2911815
Thanks for answering, rude anon~

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>>2911779
I need more practice and a macro ring

>>2911848
Good job, 4 and maybe 5 look like they'd make cool prints! Keep it up!

>>2911894
>>>/hugbox/
>>2911848
kys fgt

>>2911901
:///

>>2911741
Tfw my dad gave me his praktica mtl3 with the pentacon 50mm 1.8 but the blades on the lens are stuck and I've no idea if the camera still works, it still has an undeveloped half shot roll in it from the early 90's.

>>2911990
wind the roll back and get the film developed, if it's bw the images will be intact, if it's colour, well, it'll be better'n nothing. The blades might be stuck for a number of reasons easy to diagnose but not through a 4chan thread.

>>2911993
Would it be worth finishing the roll off first? Could be interesting to have a roll with pictures spanning 25+ years on it, provided it's not been degraded completely by background radiation.

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>>2911995
"background radiation" is an offensively idiotic urban legend propagated by uneducated (basic physics, pls) cretins. I personally found and developed an undeveloped roll of film shot in ~'75 that spent the last 40 years in sawdust on a windy, uninsulated wooden attic, subjected to summer heatwaves and winter frost.
Apart from the fact it was shot on a shitty rapid system camera by a schoolboy, save for some uniform fogging, it was perfectly fine.

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>>2912002
>square frames
Which camera was this? Always been curious about the Robot cameras, but they aren't exactly cheap.

>>2912014
sorry anon, entirely wrong hemisphere and system. akin to 126, these were mostly idiotproof fixed focus box camera-tier point&shoots.

http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/SL_System

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>>2911574
>Have you developed anything from it yet?

No, not yet. Going through the second roll of Ektar 100 right now. The camera however seems to work really smooth - which is fantastic. I am already in love with the ME..

>extremely small
>fuckhuge viewfinder (bigger than the VF of any current Nikon Camera (9including the F6))
>built like a tank
>all black; perfect for stealthy shots
>very nice brassing going on
>very high quality and durable shutter curtain (no cheap cloth curtain)
>and so on

I can highly recommend this nifty little SLR.

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>>2912038
Cute idea with the XE-1! Does it get much of a reaction?

>>2912063
not my pic, anon.

For how many years can exposed film sit in a camera before it goes bad? If I found a camera with decades old film in it, could it be developed? I'm asking because I was looking at an old camera that belonged to my grandpa, and my dad popped open the back, exposing the film.

>>2912038
how to manually set the shutter speed on pentax me? it seems like it has only auto mode

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>>2912079
You can't. You can only choose en even exposure, -1, -2, +1 or +2. You can also fuck around with the ASA dial but that's another story. Get the 'ME Super' if you really need a manual mode.

The OG ME offers three modes;
>Auto
>Bulb
>fixed 1/100, which also works without batteries

But then, I don't miss that fully manual mode at all as I can easily compensate the value by choosing the over/underexposure option.

Feel free to overexpose a stop or even two when shooting good film like Ektar 100 or Portra 160 as you can easily fix that in post without losing 'data' in the highlights. These filme are very forgiving.

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>>2912072

Not trying to be a smart ass, but Google it.

* There are shops that specialize in processing old film. You'll need them if it's old color film. Especially if it's color film from a process no longer supported (i.e. C22).

* If it's B&W and you're good at developing your own B&W you could try it yourself. But you'll want to search and see how other people have souped old B&W film to get a printable image.

>>2912072
Did you close the back immediately? With good luck you only ruined the most recent part of the film, with bad luck it's completely gone.

There may well be some pictures on it, just get it developed. If it comes out blank, you only lost like €7 (unless you bring it into a special place the other anon was talking about).

>>2912170
No, my dad was drunk and pulled out all the film on the pretext that is was bad because it was old. We had a bit of a row and I actually ended up leaving. On the plus side, I ended up talking to him today, and he told me that my grandfather never bulk-rolled film, so the shots probably belonged to my dad or one of his brothers. Not as big of a loss as I originally thought. Thanks for the feedback.

>>2912157
Yeah, my bad, normally I am more conscientious about that.

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is this a bad scan, bad film or am i shit?

just getting started with film, need advice.

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>>2912302
The film is fine, the scan is bad, you are shit. You focused on the twig, not on the concrete ornament thing.
If you want quality results, scan your film yourself. If you want to know how, read this thread, or the other film scanning thread.

>>2910407
A E S T H E T I C

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I fucked up the focus but apart from that how did I do? Im new so advice pls

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>>2912362

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>>2912364

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>>2912367
I think this turned out okay given I dont have a macro

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>>2912364
>>2912367
Pro tip: Wait for a train

>>2912189
>Yeah, my bad, normally I am more conscientious about that.

No worries...that's why I started off with "not to be a smart ass." I was telling you to Google it to get more/better info then I could deliver in a post. I really wasn't trying to be all "hurr durr google."

>>2911698
why do you need 2 bronica s2s?

>>2912362
>I fucked up the focus but apart from that how did I do?
>>2912364
>>2912367
>>2912368
I don't know mate, how did you do?
Would you ever hang one of these on a wall?
Do they speak to any deep and personal part of yourself?
Would you even hit like if any of these showed up in your facebook feed posted by someone you don't want to bang?
>if the answer to every single one of these is no, you probably wasted a shitload of time and money to take these photos and share them with us

>>2912380
One comes with a 75mm and prism, one comes with a 200mm and wlf. 2 backs, for all the reasons you'd want 2 backs, 2 bodies doubles my chances of getting one with accurate mirror alignment and shutter timing.
They don't have any more depreciation to do, at least until the plug finally gets pulled on 120 film, so I'd say I'm sitting pretty in case I want to sell them.

>>2911288
>>2911538
Not that anon but where do you guys go to get film for cheap? I've had no luck other than some mong who was selling C200 for about a dollar a roll if you bought 20 of them. Of course it was expired at only 12 exposures but the colors still looked great.

So I bought a developing tank, developer and fixer. I was told that is all I need. No bag... I am going to do black and white to start but I'm nervous as fuck about ruining my shots. Any advice on first time mistakes and things to be wary of? I'm pretty darn excited.... just nervous

>>2912460
I'd get a bag unless you are sure you can block out all light in one of the rooms of your house

>>2912460
there's not much you can fuck up with B&W really, jut follow the instructions step by step and you'll be fine

>>2912460
Be careful without a bag anon. The film needs loading in complete darkness otherwise it'll be ruined. It's doable if you're smart about it, but be careful with it.

>>2912460
use dish soap for the final bath and water + vinegar between developer and fixer

>>2912460
You'll be fine, find the darkest room in your house, preferably one with no windows or a small window. Cover the window and seal all light (otherwise wait until night). Get used to loading film on the reel and make sure you have a pair of scissors at hand to cut the film.

If you're having problems with light use a towel to block the door frame if there's a gap or PVC tape from the sides. Turn off any wall sockets/electrical items with lights.
If you're looking for a cheap way to block out light then card/foil works well over windows with water.
Hunching yourself over under a duvet/thick blanket away from the light also works well.

You'l literally be fine as long as there's barely any light and you're not shooting a super high ISO film. also do this if you want, but it's not 100% necessary >>2912485

>>2912485
>>2912499

Vinegar part is completely useless. Water is enough stop bath.

>>2912460
Sacrifice a child to Molech to ensure sufficient darkness for your dev.

>shot a roll with the xpan
>held off on developing for a few days
>finish developer and rinse in sink
>use stop bath
>empty and open tank for a second in full light
fml desu

>>2912516
hmm that's probably true. I always used it bc that's how my teacher taught me

>>2912525
It really depends on the developer tbqh. Something like CMS 20/Adotech really, really needs a stop bath. Most others don't.

>>2912524
So what?
Fix and wash, retard.

>>2912528
I fixed, I washed. It was too late.

>>2912524
>for a second
probably no big deal

Tips/recipes for developing Delta 3200 with HC110? I've shot three rolls of it, one isn't that important so I'll test on it and if I don't like the results, I'll get the other two done elsewhere with a different developer, most likely Microphen.

I like a contrasty and grainy Daido look. Everyone online is saying Delta 3200 sucks in HC110, but then again, people seem to be going for a different aesthetic in general.

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>>2912530
>>2912529
Completely nuked. First time I ever did that.

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>>2912529
Too late for what?
I think your x-pan is fucked and you're hoping it's just you failing at dev.
Also, what is an xpan roll, like 10 shots? Go shoot another one.

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>>2912536
>I think your x-pan is fucked and you're hoping it's just you failing at dev.
kek, what? Is that something you regularly fear?

The only change to the process was that I processed during daytime (not an issue) and I opened the tank like a retard (big issue).
Here, have this roll of my dog taken after your post :3c

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>>2912460
Just use whatever room you can with no windows. One house I lived in I used a roommates's walk-in closet. Another house I lived in I used a bathroom. Just shove a towel under the door and you should be fine. Good luck!

Last month I posted in the fgt thread after grabbing a 5 pack of Provia asking for some tips. Got some helpful comments and shot through the 5 rolls pretty quickly. Gotta say I'm in love with the stuff. Got some more Provia in both 100 and 400 coming my way in the mail already.

1/2 think I may want to grab a warning filter for these types of shots in the future.

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