Film General Thread

>>2899375

today i noticed 1st chink scammer (10x trix for $9.99) got booted from ebay too. i think he even deleted his own account lol.

i just wanted to believe.

oh and btw, yashicas arent memes, the real MF meme is the """"""german""""" pentacon six and their top tier """""zeiss"""""" glass.

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Is the Original Olympus M-1 rare? I found it for $75 with lens but I already have an Olympus OM-1 with the same 50mm f1.8 lens.

Should I sell the original M-1 to collectors and keep the OM-1 or should I keep the original M-1 and sell the OM-1 instead?

Thanks!

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my lab is really good at scratching the fuckery out of my negatives

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>>2899418
What makes you so sure it's them and not you?
If you have a lab deving your black and white, you're definitely a rank beginner.
I'd be more inclined to blame some filth in the dusty old camera you pulled out of the bin to shoot with for scratching your film than professionals using professional equipment.
Also, if you can't heal a scratch in the out of focus areas of a black and white photo, there may be no hope for you.

>>2899433
>What makes you so sure it's them and not you?

The scratches are consistent across this roll but not any other with the same camera from a different lab. I don't really have a chance to scratch them myself since I pull them out of the sheet with an antistatic cloth and lay them in the scanner tray, and that's all I do the handling of them. The horizontal nature of them looks like they've been pulled or scraped against something.

> "If you have a lab deving your black and white, you're definitely a rank beginner"

You're not wrong about me being a beginner, however I usually do dev my own film. I didn't this time since I was in the US for an extended holiday (the map in the picture is NYC). I'm from Australia where film development is expensive so I really have no choice but to do my own development.

Also can't be fucked healing every single scratch. On the full size scan there's a heap of much smaller ones, not really worth it for a throwaway image

picked up a bronica ec recently, I stuck a new battery in it but the shutter appears to be stuck in bulb mode. I know that the shutter is electronically controlled for the EC and the battery check light/button doesnt work so I assume that there is an internal problem. Anyone have any ideas for a fix or am I out of luck

>>2899433
>snobbery: the post

* You don't have to develop B&W yourself to be good or a pro.

* Even back when film was the only choice...and much more profitable...dust and scratches were a problem at most labs. Only higher end pro labs did a good job here. Some pros back in the day would only accept dip-n-dunk processing for this reason.

* Cloning out dust and scratches takes time even when you're proficient at it. Much better to not have a scratched neg in the first place.

>>2899382
This place http://olympus.dementix.org/M-1/ says the M-1 is pretty common, but I certainly don't see them very often.
If you don't care about that "M-1" logo on the camera, sell it to someone who does. It'll probably fetch a bit more than just a normal OM-1.

>>2899452
Yeah I don't really care about the logo. I guess some might be willing to shell extra money for it.
If I do keep the M-1 I don't think it has much difference from the OM-1 I used to have since it isn't the MD or the motordrive nor the OM-1n version.

Is 35mm essentially the m4/3 of the analog era? With medium and large format readily available people chose to shoot with 35mm, choosing form factor over image quality. Over the years 35mm became the go to film for it's availability and afford-ability but it was quickly left in the dust by digital, with only medium format film sticking around because of it's price to performance ratio. It's much like m4/3s which became widely popular because of it's size yet isn't very good in the image quality department . Now m4/3s is close to it's death while 35mm is already buried and only visited by hipsters.

That's a run scratch. Check the guides in the camera and maybe make sure theres no sand in the velvet trap of the actual film container. Also if some shit runs some rubber tongs down the film removing water after fixing then it's the lab fuck up.

>>2899484
I own an OM-1, a bit newer as it has the MD thing. I'd personally keep the M-1 DESU if it works as well as the OM-1, maybe it'll be valuable later on. In any event, I think it's cool.

I've never seen an M-1 except on eBay for a silly price. Dunno if it sold tho.

>>2899485
No, they can't really be compared. 110 was maybe closest to m4/3 in a sense. Plenty of cheap shitty bakelite cameras shot medium format, and 35mm was definitely good enough for almost anything.

If people really were about form factor over image quality, aps film wouldn't have failed so hard.

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Did I do good?

>>2899532
It's a bit of an eccentric camera for the price you paid

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>>2899520
>I own an OM-1, a bit newer as it has the MD thing. I'd personally keep the M-1 DESU if it works as well as the OM-1, maybe it'll be valuable later on. In any event, I think it's cool.

Actually there's is a problem with the M-1. The film advance lever doesn't have the black cover anymore. If I ever sell my OM-1 over this, should I replace the M-1 lever with my own OM-1 lever with the black cover? Pic related.

>I've never seen an M-1 except on eBay for a silly price. Dunno if it sold tho.

How much are they selling it? I got my M-1 for $75 with lens and I can call it a deal if I sold it for $100+ and use the $25+ for some extra films.

>>2899533
They're selling for 70-150 on ebay usually.

>>2899485

>With medium and large format readily available
I have never seen either of these films for sale outside of a few specialist film stores. 35mm allows more exposures and some films (portra 160, ektar 100 and the like) are comparable to their 120 counterparts - as good, no, but good enough in most cases especially if you use a decent prolab and scan to raw. 35mm is just more convenient and you're looking at roughly the same price for a roll of ektar100 120 and 35mm - and you get 3 times the amount of exposures with 35mm. Also hipsters have totally got medium format film wrapped up with their holgas and other lomo toys, no format is immune to hipsters and I don't mind them they keep the demand up. Plenty of people shoot film everyday it's just that most of them live in japan, vietnam, south korea, and russia and it's perfectly normal. Shoot film in the west and you're classified as a hipster.

>>2899537
I'm not going to get into the whole format thing, but honestly, if you're not buying film online, you're doing it wrong.

Who is the maker of lomography color negative 800?

It's cheap. Is it any good?

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>>2899376

I want to believe.

>>2899411

Pretty girl but terrible picture.

You could take great nudes on that light coming from window.

>>2899701
>"""""""""""shipped""""""""""

>>2899861
Try doing dslr scanning before you drop money. You should be able to take some film you already have and gear that I'm assuming you likely already have (well, you might need a light source), and give it a go to see if it works for you.

I want to buy a scanner since photo labs charge too much for high quality scanning and low quality scans are just awful.
I'm thinking about epson perfection v340, it doesn't cost much and the res is 4800dpi (I guess it's enough if I'm not going to make huge prints?)
I used to scan films at my school, we had an old hp photo scanner, it was slow as hell, not the best, but the results were fine to me.
I never used any epson device so any input will be appreciated. also I am going to scan medium format mainly

>>2899862
I'm going to try that, thanks

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Dropped my camera and the back opened for 3-4 seconds. Surprisingly many of the photos was not damaged at all, this wasn't one of them obviously.

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>>2899695
I do buy my film online - "readily available" sounds like I would find it next to ultramax at kmart

>>2899532
You did good, I paid 80 for mine though the cell just been replaced - hopefully yours still has plenty of years left on it

What is a good brand for safelight bulbs? I'm finally setting up a rudimentary darkroom in my bathroom, and I need to get a light. Should I get a purpose-built safelight or just a bulb and a normal plug-in socket?

>>2899485

35mm was what hobbyists could afford, and what the press could shoot in fast paced situations. Money from both fueled a relatively rapid R&D cycle that led to a lot of improvements in both equipment and emulsions.

MF and LF were for working professionals in any area where IQ mattered.

m43 isn't a good analogy because m43 isn't really any cheaper than APS-C, and also not that far behind in IQ.

>>2899981
Don't overthink it.
I literally got red party balloons and rolled them over an LED worklight like a condom. Worked great. Did tests and everything.
All you need is a dim light and sufficiently strong red filtration.
Anything you buy that is sold as a safelight is going to work just fine.

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>>2899697
Well lomo 100 is some of the grainiest non-expired film I've ever used, so I'd imagine the 800 is strictly haram.

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>>2900055
>grain
Exactly what I'd expect from the 550D DSLR scanning shill.

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>>2900058
Yep, have some Superia 200 for comparison.

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>>2900061
>>2900058
OMG, it's so grainy, right?
Fuck I hate that DSLR scanning shill!
He keeps trying to share information with the forum that would help them to get the same shitty results he does!
As if anyone would want their scans to look like that!?
What an asshole!
He must make so much money from giving people that information to shill as hard as he does!

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>>2900055
>underexposes color negative
>i-its g-grainy ;__;

retard.

>>2900067
>>2900061
>C-41
>Grain
You missed the point. It's exactly what I'd expect from you.

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someone is selling the
contax tvs for 100€ in my town...should i buy it
or wait til the contax t2 shows up one day ??
i can't spend alot at the moment though lol

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>>2900071
Here. Let me adopt a trip to make it easier for you/.
>>2900074
The TVS is fine. If it's a reasonable price I'd pick it up. It's not that much slower than the T2 and is reasonably built. They have the same issues as all Contax/Yashica compacts (no parts).

>>2900076
>contax tvs
even if you had no money left ?
beside food, rent etc.

i have the G2 though but you know how it is...contax + CZ are kingclass and the look of this camera is beautiful...
i shoot film...(very) often too..

>>2900079
>>2900076
>>2900074
ok last question

which one

Contax tvs
or
Yashica t4

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>>2900076
>dyeclouds
Holy shit man, you need to cool it with the anal retentiveness.
So what term do you prefer to connote the phenomenon of grain-sized colour inaccuracies prevalent in colour negative film that is of a high speed, or low quality, or underexposed?
Because I hate to break it to you, but the entire fucking world minus you calls it grain.
>inb4 dyecloudiness

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>no money
>spend a full year using only iPhone camera
>convince myself I'm learning "composition"
>walk downstairs
>go into dad's closet
>find this

sup real camera senpai

>>2899863

The real resolution of that epson is only about 2000 dpi. You'll be ok scanning medium format for web. Don't except making bigger prints.

>>2900143

Electro 35 is a terrible camera. Shove it back to the closet and get a proper camera.

>>2900153
You wish bich some internet guy said it's better than any DSLR ever made

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I asked in the gear thread first but got no replies, which I suppose is to be expected, so I'm here to ask the board's real photographers.

I bought a Canon Pixma Pro 1 pigment printer for $700 with about 10 spare inks and generally pretty full carts inside.
I'll be using it to print my colour film scans.
Anybody have some sweet recommendations for paper, or general use of this thing?
I'm moderately concerned that taking on my own printing is where my rejection of Adobe Bloatoshop in favour of GIMP will come to bite me in the ass.
As far as paper goes, my preference for real photo paper is cooltone doubleweight glossy fibre, which I do not tone or finish in a print burnisher/hot press/whatever they're called. This gives good contrast, but leaves the paper still with a bit of tooth. I'm thinking that for colour pigment printing, a nice matte paper with the chroma optimiser finish over the top will come close?
>also how fucked am I for ink costs???

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>>2900156

>Board's real photographer.

>>2899532
>>2899536
>>2899909
I can buy these for 800yen in Japan all day. Should I start buying them up and selling online? Didn't realize those were worth jack shit.

>>2900154

>Takes Uncle Ken's reviews seriously.

Is the Canon AE-1 a good camera to start with, I was looking in record/camera shop and they seem to be selling it a pretty good price (170 aud with 50mm lens and the strap). Also how would I make sure its all working before purchase, just make sure the shutter works?

>>2900052
Ehhh, it's a bit different because my primary use for the dark room is not just developing but also cutting ortho film. I know that not all red lights are safe for ortho film.

I also want to keep it cheap. I might try the route you're going. Some of these goddamn brands are so expensive in Canada. It seems like safelights in general here or mega-price.

What are your average dev costs? While looking for a new developer I sat and worked out I'm paying about £1.49 (about two US bucks) per roll for black and white self development. Including film costs it works out at something like 18p per frame (24 US cents). Pretty curious about what's normal.

>>2900055
That looks completely awful.

A lot of Lomography film is (was?) apparently rebranded Ferrania. Their Imation iso 200 film is the shittiest, grainiest c41 film I've ever shot.

>>2900232
€6,90 per roll at the place I go to, for both C41 and E6. I haven't calculated my bw dev costs.

>>2900198
My AE-1 Program (basically the same as the AE-1 except there's an automatic shutter speed setting in addition to the automatic aperture) has a broken metering system that I'm too broke and unmotivated to try and fix right now. I'm not sure if this is a common problem with this particular body, but if I were you I'd make sure to test that out as well before buying it, if you can. Test it a few times in bulb mode with the aperture set on "AE" and make sure that the aperture changes width in different lighting conditions. If that and the shutter work, you're good.

Also, it will need a battery in order for you to do anything with it. I can't remember what battery it uses off the top of my head, but I can remember that I found it fairly easily at Walgreens.

>>2900331
That's for development and scanning? For C41 it's about the same here in Britain.

>>2900188
do it anon
>provide the link pls

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It's quite grainy but I really like this shot

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What film have you bought lately? I'm giving color a try again, this haul should last me until Thanksgiving, probably. Also bought 5 packs of FP-100c from a guy on eBay for 125.

>>2900370
Just dev. The scans that place does are just Noritsu scans, and the cost is double that with them so not worth it IMO. They do have some high res scan option too but I doubt it's worth it either.

>>2900522
>this haul should last me until Thanksgiving
>its only August
Those had better all be pro packs, anon...

>>2900535
It's 5 rolls of ektar, 5 rolls of acros, 5 rolls of tri-x, 2 rolls of hp5, and 5 rolls of portra 400 in 35mm. Plus a roll each of provia in 35 and 120. I still have one more box of tri-x left in the fridge as well, along with some assorted 35mm stuff. Should be a good fall.

>>2900522
all 120:

Fuji Pro 400H x2
Fuji 160C x2
Fuji 160NS x2
Fuji Velvia 50 x1
Assorted Ilford (around 9 rolls or so, different ISO from 50-400)

>>2900545
I thought about getting some of the fuji color films but decided against it. Do you have any examples? I might still get some anyway. What's the difference between the 160C and the NS?

>>2900546
just started shooting 120 so I don't have any examples yet, but I shot some Pro400H on 35mm before and really liked it (as with all Fuji in general)
>What's the difference between the 160C and the NS?
can't really attest to it yet, but from what I've gathered 160C has a stronger contrast and NS is better for skin tones

>>2900416
Don't you mean dyecloudy???

>>2900550
what?

>>2900548
>>2900546
I cross shot the two of these at a wedding last week, once I've scanned both I'll let you know.

>>2900557
Refer to this dipshit.
>>2900076

>>2900559
>tfw he doesn't know that color film is based on a silver grain structure PLUS dyeclouds for the pigmentation

I would love some help on how to shoot film. I have a Canon AE-1 Program (dads old camera) that I just loaded with film and a fresh battery. Ive got the film setting set as well, and all I need to know now is how to shoot with it. Will taking a photo with my D3200 Nikon on the same settings (shutter speed, aperture) produce the same result as the film will? Would also like help with the Program feature, open to any help. Also, is film speed the same is ISO in a camera?

>>2900590
Look up sunny 16 for shooting in manual, otherwise, using things like aperture priority are the same, you just can't change the ISO.

You can use your dslr to meter for exposure or get a phone app to meter if you don't want to use the one in the AE1.

>>2900590
Yes, film speed and ISO are the same.
Except you can't change your film speed between shots.
Make sure you have the correct ISO set for your film on the camera (under the rewind crank).
Then set aperture ring on the lense to the green A, and the shutter speed dial to program.
And then go and take photos.
Check to make sure your film is actually winding on by turning the rewind crank in the direction of the arrow, to take up any slack in the canister, then making sure it spins as you wind on the film between shots.

If you need to know more, seek the counsel of the based God Kenneth.
>http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/fd/ae-1-program.htm#usage

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Anyone want to buy my Hasselblad 500cm kit?

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>>2900641
>want
Yes.
>can
Nope. If I could afford one, I'd have one already.

Convince me to buy a Pentax 67

I dont like my Hasselblad 500cm, trying to sell it now.

Does mirror lock up make a real difference? A lot of people say their images are fine, despite the huge mirror slamming around.

>>2900643
whats your budget

>>2900651
Zero for the time being. I'm in poorfag mode for around the next month.

>>2900648
>Convince me to buy a Pentax 67
they are god tier
they are manly and slick as fuck
they were used by araki
THE 6X7 XBOX HUEG WAIST LEVEL FINDER
they create hugeass negatives
they have delicious MF rendering, soft creamy bokeh in every lens

the only con i can find in such camera is the dumb flash sync speed (1/60).

>Does mirror lock up make a real difference?
i think it does. specially in long exposures.

>>2900648
I get the feeling that changing your aspect ratio won't help whatever your problems are...

>>2900643
I just want to get $1k for it

>>2900661
>long exposures
of course, I would always use it for landscapes or something like that, but what about portraits where Im shooting 1/60, 1/125, 1/250?

I was very autistic with my Hassy, always on tripod, always mirror up,

still didnt get the sort of rendering I thought I would. Just dissapoint with the look I get, also apparently my viewfinder cant help me focus for shit. Focus is always cast behind where I set it.

>Shooting in squares
Why did I fall for this meme? The 6x7 dimensions are sublime

>>2900662
>I get the feeling that changing your aspect ratio won't help whatever your problems are...

he is not comfortable with the camera. he is selling it. whatever else deduction is faggotry.

>>2900662
I get the feeling it very much will, and I like Pentax sample photos more than Hassy. Plus Hassy is worth more so I may come out with a few extra hundred bucks if I swap cameras. Im seriously fucking over shooting squares.

>>2900666
You project a level of discomfort onto him but say what others do is faggotry? Gotcha.

Changing cameras is almost never the answer to problems in photography.

>>2900669
It is when I get consistent problems with focusing, not getting the look I want, feeling like I paid too much for a meme camera, and tired of the 6x6 meme

Some people really like 6x6. I completely understand and applaud them for being creative with such simple but difficult aspect ratio. It just isn't for me.

>>2900522
Where did you cop that? B&h?

>>2899375
I want to get into medium format.

What's the most cost effective way to do this outside of Holga?

I see TLRs on craigs occaisionally for as low as 75$, but I'm leery of that type of shooting - maybe just because of my inexperience.

What do you guys think of Kiev 88s? They seem like pretty good slav equivalents of Pentax 6x7.

>TL;DR
120 FILM SHOOTOUT: Cheapo TLR vs Kiev 88 vs Pentax 6x7 or reader's choice!

>>2900781
>pretty good slav
What are 3 words that don't belong in a sentence together?

>>2900781
Mamiya RB67

Bronica Zenza

Yashicamat 124g

>>2900781

get lubitel, you can get them for like $45 on ebay including shipping. if you like the MF thing then upgrade. dont ever slav. ever.

>>2900781
Yashicamat 124g, or Yashica-D can be had for cheap.

>>2900648
Why don't you like the blad?

>>2900781
Art of Photography said they're good but idk, lots of shekels for something that may break the first time you hold it.

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Holga meme

>>2900833
>listening to the faggot
There are other MF SLRs and TLR's that you can find for the same price or cheaper that aren't constructed by a drunk socialist.

>>2900781
kiev cameras are a copy of hasselblads, they shoot 6x6 and have a similar form factor, unlike the pentax 6x7

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>>2900781
Save a month or two and get a ~$350 Bronica SQ-A kit of you wanna shoot square.

>>2900864
>Holga
Its cool but it isnt, ya know?

>>2900793

Lubitels are horrible.

>>2900879

Kievs are terrible cameras. Lot's of light leak problems.

Pentacon sixs are very unreliable cameras too.

Everyone should stay away of slav cameras.

>>2900888
>those Newton rings
Get better at scanning m90.

>>2900781
I'd go with mamiya

35mm film is nowhere near the IQ of 35mm digital sensor. just barely as good as modern P&S digital sensor, which are surprisingly as good as film is bad

I FELL FOR THE MEME

>>2900781
Late-model Rolleicords can be found for under $200 if you get patient or lucky. Xenar lens is good.

>>2900917
Yeah, that was a few years ago when I used to use a V600.

>>2900801
+1 on Yashicas. I have a Yashica D I got from my grandfather, it's seen pretty heavy use but still works perfectly and the image quality is great. Mine doesn't even have the better Yashinon lens.

Shame I found out I don't really like shooting tlr's that much tho. GASing for that Pentax 6x7 goodness now.

>>2900920
no one shoots 35mm film for its resolution fuckwit

>>2900940
What is 35meme for? Snapshits?

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>>2900940
Speak for yourself.

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>>2900940
>not shooting Portra

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>>2900781
TLRs are clunky stone age pieces of shit, don't bother. I would highly recommend my Bronica SQ system, or if you don't want to shoot squares they also make less popular but very similar 645 and 6x7 systems so it might be worth looking into those also.

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>>2900920
>not shooting Adox CMS20 II and developing it in Adotech III for grain free enlargements of up to 2,5 meters diagonally
pleb

>>2900944
Why does it have to be for something? It's one of many ways to record light into an image.

>>2900964
I enjoy shooting my rolleiflex way more than my hasselblad. contrary to what a lot of you will say, medium format slrs are most at home on tripods. Tlrs make a lot more sense for all day handholding.

>>2900964
I disagree. They have a really great form factor and are very comfortable to shoot with. SLR's are clunky.

Alright so I just started using film, I'm pretty clueless about it all. I shot my first roll, and I got it developed and put onto a cd. Here's the problem, all of the pictures are blank. When I say blank, I mean they're all this very light color brown. Only one of the pictures "came out" and it was a very blurry picture of a face. If anyone knows the issue, that would be greatly appreciated.

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>>2900920
Depends a lot on what film you're using, but I feel like digital is one "format" ahead of film in terms of the amount of detail you can get. 35mm digital seems to be closer to MF film, and MF digital is more comparable to 4x5. that's probably a simplistic analogy that will make a lot of people mad, but that's just what I've seen.

There are some very sharp 35mm films though, like >>2900956
I've shot with kodak 2254 1.6 iso film (originally meant for duplication i think) that's very sharp. needs a tripod though :^)
But as sharp as they are, i don't think either of those films out-resolve digital, unless you jump to MF.

>>2900982
Your camera is underexposing your film. This could be because you're not setting your iso correctly or the light meter has failed, or the shutter and/or aperture is broken. Open up the back of the camera and actuate the shutter while looking through the lens and see if it stops down correctly and the shutter time is accurate.

>>2900982

why you are making this lame shit up. fuck off.

>>2900770
yea, I pretty much always buy film from BH. Always free, fast shipping when you order more than 50 dollars, and they generally have the best prices on stuff. They don't have a lot of variety though. They pretty much just have the fuji/kodak/ilford staples, and some rollei stuff, that's p much it. If you want weirder or imported stuff you'll have to check ebay or other sites.

is there a site with examples of pictures made with different films?

>>2900992
just google "[film name] flickr"


Flickr might be mostly cancer now, but all the user groups are a great way to see pics taken with different cameras, lenses, films, etc.

>>2900998
I've done that but I don't know many films and may be missing some... I'm new to analog and I just don't know how many films are available nowadays

>>2901009
Go to B&H and see what they have in stock, that's most of what is still around. It's not a whole lot.

>>2900665
the square format I truly a meme, I fell for it too and switching to 645 / 67 was unbelievably satisfying

>>2901014
t. pleb who cant compose for shit.

>>2900988
That's exactly what I figured, thank you.

>>2901018
angry

>>2900956
i thought it was in someone's butthole.

Whats a good price to pay for a contax t2?

What's the point of square format? You're gonna crop the sides during enlarging anyway, so you might as well shoot 645 directly

>>2901018
this >>2901089 is why it is a meme

>>2901089
Cut your paper to a square and turn the smaller piece into test strips or smaller prints

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Any full size examples of film scanned with one of these?

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>>2901104

>>2900990
Does B&H offer free shipping worldwide as long as it is more than $50?
I don't live in the US and the prices of portra here are skyrocketing.

>>2901109
Email them and ask. They have good customer service so you should get an answer pretty quickly and a definite answer for your country.

I have an orwo panchromatic b&w 15 np medium format roll which turns 30 years old in two months. I don't want to waste it. how long will the exposure have to be? 30 sec - 1 min maybe?

>>2901127
I'd probably add about two stops for that (I find for black and white a stop/15 years works pretty well).

>>2901109
Remember you're probably going to have to pay an asston of customs/import tax.

what happens if you use too much rodinal? I just mixed 200ml of it with 400ml of water (for a 600ml tank) and only now I am reading that a 1+50 dilution is recommended

>>2901169
Ok, so you've got a 1+2 dilution of it now. So just mix more water with it to make the 1+50. that 1+2 solution wont last as long as the stock though, keep it in an air tight bottle until it turns brown and shitty, then throw it out.

>>2901172
thank you so much

>>2900985
I tend to secretly agree with you. Even my Fuji XT1 takes incredibly sharp and detailed images that I could never hope to get with color 35mm film.

But film gives such delicious colors and tones and highlights it makes it totally worth it.

>>2901190
>incredibly sharp and detailed images

photography is about light, not detail. want detail? learn to draw.

>>2901190
Yeah it's still hard to accurately emulate the look of film colors in digital. You can get close, but it's never quite the same.
That being said, i rarely fuck around with 35mm anymore. I love those big beautiful 6x7 slides :DD

>>2901196
This may be the most autistic thing I've ever read on this site. congrats.

>>2901172
>>2901169
>>2901174
That's pretty funny because you just fucked an entire bottle of rodinal by being a pig ignorant moron!

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>>2901212

>>2899375
Yashica is probably the 3rd memest mf camera although it's still a fantastic camera but the most meme mf cameras are definitely the holgas and lomos

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>>2901207
it's true to a certain degree tho

>>2900888
Nice shot, composition works quite well for square.
Wsh you had taken two steps back if possible, to give a bit more space to the sides.
Very cool with the green mountainside on the left, and the grey on the right.

>>2900864
It's just cool

>>2900416
I like it too. Shame about the cut off guy on the right, he should have the decency to stay out of the frame.

>>2900143
Sell it and buy a camera that's actually nice to use. Or keep it for sentimental value.

>>2899532
It's a really nice camera to use, and it can deliver great results if you make it stop down a little.
Make sure to check the light seal to make sure it's intact, it's prone to light leaks. My seals went really fast after buying it, and I've heard of others having the same problem. The lens is delicious imo. Pic related.

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>>2901257
lol, mistyped the resize parameter.

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>>2899532
>>2899909
>>2899533
>>2899536

Seriously? I paid €5 for mine. It's a simple point and shit camera, I wouldn't ever pay more than €20 for one. It does tend to make good pictures though, even if the focus is rather rudimentary

>>2900641
>>2900664
Where you from.
I want medium format and I'm debating with myself on whether to suck it up and fork it out for a hasselblad or be a poorest and but a Kiev 88.

>>2901409
Why not go for something between the two?

>>2901409

get bronica and stop being a faglord.

>>2901409

Hassy's are overrated, for your first medium format you should definitely do what>>2901433
>>2901437
said and get something middle of the line like a Bronica. Bronny's are fucking clean toooo bruv

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This is probably the best image I've gotten out of my shitty Holg-Eye (a.k.a. my Kodak No.2 Hawk-Eye with shit optics) so far.

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it's a snapshit that can double as a reaction image

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>>2900055
is that buranda?

got refunded for scamming chink n°1.

its all ogre.

>>2901298
$80AUD
mine was minty fresh bro, and like I said - new cell so it should be good for another 20+ years. I bought it from a bricks and mortar shop they gave a year warranty. Have got some beaut shots out of it.

>>2900188
yes! do it! one in good condition goes for about 50usd in vietnam

can I put a 120 film inside a 220 film back?

>>2901573
>the absolute madman

>>2901573
Yes, no problem. Anyone who tells you otherwise is an idiot. Just make sure you pay attention and stop after frame 12. Otherwise you'll be shooting blanks.

>>2901409
I live in Washington DC.

>>2901576
cicho tam, pomóż zuchowi zamiast heheszkowac

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Just got this from the Basement of my Parents.

Is it any good ?

>>2901596
No.

is $350 a good price for a contax t2?

>>2901613
do you have any example-pics so i can see if it is even worth trying out?

Here's registered version of ColorPerfect 2.21

Password is /film/

http://wikisend.com/download/549650/cp.rar

>>2901619
I'd say that's the average price they go for these days, meaning grossly overpriced

>>2901666
>tfw mac
well, thanks anyway satan

>>2901666
>cp.rar
nice try fbi :^)

>>2901666
Thank you satan. Hopefully this works.

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>>2901706

It's legit.

Can I use Rodinal to develop prints or would that be pants-on-head retarded? I keep reading that you can but the image quality is sub-par.

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reposting from gear thread because it might be more apropriate here,

how good is the epson perfection v370?

I want to scan 35mm color and B/W film and possibly in the future medium format
I don't have a DSLR, I tried doing that shoebox lightbox that's everywhere on google but I get shitty images with my point and shoot the best I got out of it doesn't look like the prints I had from the lab.
I want to share the photos on memebook and instagram and possibly print on 4 x 6
is the v370 enough?, I'm a poorfag but I could save money for a while for a better scanner (I want to keep shooting film as long as film is alive), or am I better with the scans from a lab?

special notes, I'm really poor (third world poor) so around 100 USD is about as much as I want to spend on this could go up to 150, don't mind if scanning is slow, I just want something that will help me scan my stuff and share it with a decent level of detail and I'm a retarded noob so I don't want to buy something I'll not be happy with because it will fuck up my pockets.

>>2901573
it may not work as well due to the fact 120 is thicker than 220

>>2901730
probably, but be careful with rodinal, p-aminophenol is possibly carcinogenic. its a lot harder to avoid contact during printing. why not use something like neutol or any other ascorbic acid developer?

>>2901839
Just because it's what I have, and I'm really eager to start printing. I guess I'll order some of what you recommend or some ilford PQ, it'll be worth the wait.

>>2899433
>rank beginner
Fuck me like, black and white is very hard to develop and not developing your own photos isn't a huge indicator that you're a beginner. Snob.

>>2900232
Do you mail them away or go to a photo lab?

>>2900232
Used to be $3.25 at Walmart but now they won't let you throw out the bad prints so it's nearly $10. Good alternatives for an asshole living in the DMV would be greatly appreciated.

When I adjust times to compensate for C-41 chemical depletion, I only need to extend developer time, not blix as well right?

>>2901835
That is simply not true. Each film has its own thickness that varies much more than typical paper backingnused with 120 film. Some 220 film is thicker than 120 film + backing, depending on manufacturer. This myth came up because some cameras have a switch you toggle depending on whether you're shooting 120 vs 220. People assume it adjusts the film plane but it's sole purpose is so the camera knows how many exposures the roll will have.

TL;DR The difference in thickness between two different 220 emulsions (up to 1mm) can be far greater thN the difference between a roll of 120 (where paper backing is only .15mm standard) and a roll of 220.

>>2901568
I have to admit it's the best film point and shit I ever had, but 80 dollaridoos seems a bit steep. Not that it matters, if you have fun with it and make nice photos with it, it's worth it

>>2901666
lel after a while it starts throwing random bugs and it gives you an error message saying you shouldn't use cracked software

gg germans, I'm still gonna use it

>>2902060
if that was true, then why would you be able to fit 2x as much film on a roll of 220 when the difference is just the lack of paper

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>>2902175
Film doesn't go to the edge of the spools. Generally 220 goes much closer to the edge compared to 120. Pic related. Left 3 are 120, right 2 are 220.

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>>2902197
interedasting. i guess you're right then. i had read about this before but what you say does make sense. i can only think of one camera where 220/120 has some sort of setting on the pressure plate (pentax 67) and im not sure if that's actually changing the pressure or just the stops for the winding lever.

>>2902212
Most likely just the counter + winding lever settings. Mamiya 6/7 also have a plate that you rotate depending on 120/220

>>2902060
my kiev 6c has a plate adjuster and frame counter changer, the height changes.
Not that I care imma poorfag

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>>2901666
god amongst men

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>>2901638
the filter on the front is pretty good

>>2902099
Oh totally mate, in retrospect it was a bit dear especially considering my canon 35ml was only $50 and takes better pics. now that i think on it my spotmatic was only $100 and it's flawless. but the trip35 is not a common camera here, I've never seen another one here. When I was in vietnam they were everywhere every hanoi hipster had one

How is Kodak ultramax 400 compared to superia 400?

>>2902356
They're fairly comparable. While Superia tends to have a generally greenish cast in shadows and underexposure, Ultramax seems to have a more pinky / magenta cast when in shadow or underexposed. I slightly prefer Ultramax because it has a warmer look, but I can never find it in 36exp rolls.

Have $1000 to spend on a camera.
Was either going to go for a Bessa R3A with a Nokton 40mm f1.4, or I was potentially considering going medium format..
I don't want to carry a box around though so it'd need to be a Fuji handheld or something similar, minimum of 6x7.

>>2902367
Congrats, sounds like you have no idea what you want.

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>>2902367
Fuji GF670. Should be under 1000 used. It's a 6x7 rangefinder, and I think it also does 6x6 if you slide a switch inside the back. It has A and M mode metering. You're welcome.

>1000 to spend on cameras
>wants shit-tier voigtlander
why?

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>>2902367
>I was going to get a bessa 35mm..
>But minimum of 6*7 if I buy a medium format instead...
What? You're listing cameras that are totally different and serve different purposes entirely. There's no way I can help you from what you've provided.
Try answering this:
Why are you buying a new camera?
What are you shooting with it?
What's your shooting style?
What kind of film do you expect to use?
How much are you going to spend?
What results are you expecting from this new camera?

>>2902381
jk, the price seems to have gone way up since I last checked. Good luck with finding a camera to meet your ridiculous parameters. Just bite the bullet and get a mamiya 7, it's not much more than 1000.

Just got two rolls of 35mm Rollei cr200 developed and they have this yellow cast I'm not a fan of. Is the 120 version similar stuff? I have one roll of that too in the fridge I've been saving for good light, if it is I think I'll just shoot it next instead of the Portra 400 I was planning on.

I think I'll just stick to Agfa Precisa for cheapo 35mm slides.

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>>2902104

Kek.

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>>2902414
It's working just fine for me, so far, I've been playing with it for a couple hours too.

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Snapshits from medieval festival.

Superia 400. HP Photosmart S20 raw scans with Vuescan. Raws converted with ColorPerfect using Superia 400 profile. No other adjustments.

Why is film so cozy?

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>>2902419

i think you might have downloaded colorfuckedup instead.

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>>2902470

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>>2902478

Don't be mad, just fix that poor dude's skin.

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What FD mount camera is the best?

>>2902465
is that 120 film? looks really nice, way unlike my 35mm superia 400

>>2902506

It's 35mm. Olympus Om40 with Zuiko 35-70 f3,5-4,5.

>>2902506

But I overexposed by one stop. I do it with all color negatives.

>>2902513
I think I should start doing that too

>>2902465
>>2902467
>>2902468

they look literally like an 80s movie still. would never pp like that, but i find it to be a great, beliveable look. good work.

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First roll of 120 on rz67. It was shot on 10+ yr old Fuji 400. My next roll is gonna be shot at 200

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>>2902548
I need some help with keeping horizons flat while handheld

So right now I have:

Olympus Pen EE2 (my go-to half frame)
Praktica BX20 (£4, haven't used much)
Olympus u mju I (£3 and bloody great)

I'm going to a car boot sale (flea market??) tomorrow and going to keep my eyes out for film cameras (I got the last two cameras at one)

So what should I keep my eyes out for? Both in terms of solid quality cameras and maybe more obscure makes I could find

>>2902578
Any compact camera that is small and feels solid, with an aperture of 2.8 or a lower value. Also anything nikon slr + yashica compact cameras

>>2902578

Any old slr with 50mm lens.

We need pastebin.

>>2902538
>>2902484
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>>2902467
Nice RPT shit, is there a point?
>>2902465
Oh right. You're only posting them because they're film. Nice to see so many images in a thread dedicated to film that really don't show the strength of film.
>>2902544
You want to overexpose 1 stop for every 10 years~ ISO 200 is probably about right.
>>2902551
>I need some help with keeping horizons flat while handheld
WLF? Consider getting a grip, it helps considerably.
>>2902578
Bronica SQ-Ai. It's the only film camera you'll ever need (if you're not a faggot).

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Snap time.

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