Ok, I know you guys like showing off. Let's get this going.

>>2890046
I'm perfectly content with only covering the 28mm to ~85mm spectrum. Primes obviously. I've had lenses as wide as 16mm and as long as 400mm but have sold them and simplified my kit down to what it is now.

Generally shoot landscape.

>>2890076
I like a prime at 50mm and 20mm respectively and a zoom for 70-300mm.
Then again, i don't do modeled or scripted stuff. Mostly going out "into the wild" and looking for opportunities

Samyang 14mm f/2.8
Canon 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM
Canon 50mm f/1.4 USM
Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM

And no further than that because my bag is already heavy enough.

>>2890110
Oh, 3 lenses. Shit.

I'd take the 16-35, 24-70 and the 70-200. Obvious and widely used choice.

>>2890111
And I forgot operation/style, fuck me. Need coffee. 95% landscapes and astro, with some misc stuff thrown in.

>real estate
>Canon 16-35 f/4L
currently own the f/2.8L but never shoot that wide
>Canon 8-15 f/4L
fisheye for 360 panoramas with Nodal Ninja head
>Canon TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II Tilt-Shift
must have for architecture

>>2890111
what's your logic for having samyang 14mm prime if you've already got canon 16-35 UWA? seems redundant

>>2890147
Bought the Samyang prior to the 16-35, and still prefer using it for astro and nightscapes. The 2mm isn't a huge difference, but it's noticeable. I'd say it's a tad sharper wide open too.

>>2890046
28mm Elmarit
50mm Summicron
90mm Summarit
Mostly travel/street. Always rangefinders, mix of film and digital.

The holy trinity would be nice

>Nikon 14-24mm f2.8
>Nikon 24-70mm f2.8
>Nikon 70-200mm f2.8

Landscape/travel and sometimes wildlife

>>2890147
It's about ~10 degrees wider on full frame, dude.

>>2890046
lol there is only one choice, 9mm fisheye 10-18mm ultra wide, 24mm tilt shift.

>>2890154
Only good answer so far.

>>2890154
>90mm on rangefinder
Man, I always found 75mm to be quite difficult to nail composition given parallax error. Did you eventually just learn the lens well?

>50mm
>80mm
>150mm

6x6 mustard race

If I could only own three lenses for everything, it'd be a 24mm or wider prime, a 35 1.4, and a 70-200. I shoot a mix of documentary, light action, and portraits, and that would do pretty well for me.

Given the option to have different setups for different purposes, I'd replace the 70-200 with an 85 1.4 or similar.

In real life, I recently switched from FF Nikon to Fuji, and I'm currently using the 23 1.4 and 56 1.2. Next lens will probably be the Samyang 12mm, and then I'll get the Fuji 16mm when another round of rebates shows up.

>>2890111
I heard the 16-35mm is bad, is that true?

>>2890250
CA isn't great, and not brilliantly sharp (at least compared to the Samyang). Other than that though, I have no issues with it. Useful to have autofocus, and I needed a wide angle with filter threads.

>>2890257
Did you ever own the 28-70mm L?

Did you get your 16-35mm new?

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>>2890046
Fuck that 3 lense noise.
I'm not broke, I can taste the rainbow.
>implying 14/28/50 isn't the patrician's choice anyway
Of lenses good enough to use:
>EFS 10-22mm from 13-22mm on FF w/ EFS gimpflange removed
>Sigma 14/2.8
>FD 24/2.8
>Nikkor 28/2.8 AI-s
>Sigma 30/1.4 Art on FF
>FD 35/2.8, also many 35mm compacts
>EF 40/2.8
>FD 50L
>Fuji M42 55/1.8
>Helios 58/2
>FD 85L
>EF 100/2.8 Macro
>Pentacks-M 135/3.5
>Fuji M42 200/4.5

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>all these people using nothing over 100mm
You guys just run around on streets and do artsy stuff, do you?

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>>2890281
>as opposed to the artless drudgery of birding

>>2890046
Right now my favourite lenses are:
Samyang 12mm F2.8
Nikon 24-70mm 2.8
and 50mm 1.8, but I would change 50mm to 70-200mm.
I mostly shoot concerts, but I want to branch out more to portraits.

>>2890046
35, 50, don't need a 3rd. Commercial stuff, and some doco stuff recently.

21mm, 35mm and 50mm. 35mm could be 28mm too though, I like both as a general use lens.

I've never actually used a 21mm to be honest, but I think I'd rather that than a 24mm so they wouldn't be as close together. And I rarely actually use a 50mm either except for portraits, so maybe it could be a 70-200 equivalent zoom instead.

28-90 5.6 is
70-200 2.8 is
50 1.4 is

>>2890286
>>2890286
Birding is a delicate skill. It takes patience, perceptiveness, manual skill, understanding of animal behavior and brings you into nature. You also need like $20k to really do it right. Maybe the photos are redundant, but we don't complain that orgasms basically all feel the same.

>35mm Nikon manual focus
28mm f/2.8 AI-S
50mm f/1.4 AI
105mm f/2.5 AI-S

>35mm Nikon autofocus and full frame digital
28mm f/1.8G AF-S
50mm f/1.8G AF-S
85mm f/1.8g AF-S

>6x6 Bronica SQ
50mm f/3.5 S
80mm f/2.8 PS-B
150mm f/3.5 S

Zooms a shit. Extreme wide or tele focal lengths a shit. Exotic lenses a shit. If you want to be anal and make it actually 3 lenses total then I'd pick the 28mm AI-S, the 50mm AF-S, and the 80mm PS.

Style: snapshits, travel snapshits, landscape snapshits

>>2890336
>You also need like $20k to really do it right.
Dumbest shit I've ever seen on /p/

>>2890343
Go good or go home with birding.
1 fast FF body body, decent gimbal head, tripod, 1 long fast prime, slow long zoom, and a monopod.

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>>2890391
Might even get a free memory card holder with this purchase. Or a tabletop tripod

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>>2890392
I remember when I used to think you were knowledgeable and not just an extreme gearfag
I guess the Leica stuff should have warned me

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>>2890046
It's a miracle! I bought mine in November 2005 and love it. It's replaced an entire bag of lenses. It's changed the way I live and make photos.

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>>2890414
I had one. nice lens for a superzoom.

>>2890284

>10mm
architecture photographs indoors

>200mm-inf
wildlife and sports in general

also stalking from a car or from your window

things happen in this area also.

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I mostly do nature, landscape, travel and astro photography
sigma is a wish for now and the 400 I only borrow

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>>2890262
>Not broke
>Edits photos on Gimp

>>2890393
Come on now, you're being difficult. Hyperbole aside, there's a big grain of truth in the above.

Sure, you can get into the game and enjoy yourself with even a 70-200mm or a consumer-grade superzoom - but it's probably the one large genre (outside underwater) where gear really makes a difference.

If you shoot 35mm FOV, the most you can spend is maybe $3k on a lens if you go crazy and returns diminish very quickly after $1,000.

If you want to shoot BIF - the difference between a $2k consumer supertele and a decent 500mm prime is really noticeable - and also adds maybe +$8-10k. Even the camera body makes a big difference - if you're shooting in that golden light, you can benefit from a mix of rediculous AF, good low light capability and a high FPS.

No, nobody has to spend that kind of money - - this is one genre that can add up really fast as you get serious.

>>2890467
>BIF
Most good wildlife photography is not birds in flight, birds in flight is for rich old white dads that want to use the 8-10k lenses.

Good wildlife photographers just get closer. They often have the same lenses because they can, but there is much wildlife photography done at focal lengths under 85mm

it just sucks that I used to think you had relevant advice. maybe for the time you did. but not anymore my friend.

>>2890471
That's all true - but the post that started all this was about birding.

The only way for me to get closer to those red tailed hawks is to use my Boston Terrier as bait.

sigma 18-35
sigma 70-200
prime 135 macro

these are pretty much the only ones I use nowadays

>>2890474
>what is a capture camera
>what is a remote triggered camera on a tripod
>what is a drone
>what is a field blind
okay sure you need the expensive old white guy lenses if you want to go "birding"
but no you dont need that shit for bird photography, you just need to git gud and understand how animals think

>>2890477
Sure, you can sit in a blind with a consumer 70-300mm on a Rebel in good light and get some nice photos. That's not being disparaging.

Still, if you think you aren't technically limited and handicapped by that rig, you're fooling yourself.

Now, for other wildlife or landscape genres - you probably could get by and never have to upgrade. And maybe win some awards.

I'm sorry that by stating the obvious that gearfagging element of birding is a real thing led you to question everything.

And why white guys? Why can't black dudes or Asian women shoot birds in flight with long primes?

>>2890482
>Still, if you think you aren't technically limited and handicapped by that rig, you're fooling yourself.
You're equally limited by being stuck with an $8000 tele you can't even move around quickly without two firm hands free

>I'm sorry that by stating the obvious that gearfagging element of birding is a real thing led you to question everything.
the gearfagging element of birding is no more real than it is any other "genre" of photography, its just that most birders are gearfags

>>2890482
>Why can't black dudes or Asian women shoot birds in flight with long primes?
Because niggers don't become dentists and asian women are too weak to even hold a monopod steady.

Canon TS-E 17mm f/4L

Canon TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM

I am looking to cover the lower part, below 50mm equivalent.
What's a good wide-angle lens for MFT bodies, ideally for videos.
I'd prefer a prime.

>>2890501
Honest question: Are T/S lenses still attractive because you're able to utilize your whole sensor and not crop much? Or is there some loss in quality (besides smaller final image size due to cropping) if you correct perspective in post?

>>2890601
different anon here
T/S is essential for anything to do with buildings, interiors, and architecture because it's crucial to have verticals be absolutely vertical. Also very useful for product photography, panoramas, and much more.
If you're a poorfag, like me, you can fake a tilt shift shot. But then you have to waste a lot of time correcting the perspectives in post and cursing the gods for not blessing you with better camera gear.
Just do a google image search for tilt shift comparison to see what I mean

>>2890603
Thanks for the response. I know why they are used (I'm going to school for architecture actually) but I've always been able to correct shots pretty easily in post production. Usually takes no more than a minute. Having a T/S lens would be great but they are typically really bulky, not to mention expensive as sin.

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>>2890336

This.

Some of my favorite shots were with a cheap 70-300, but still... truth.

>>2890471

>just get closer

Getting closer is key, but getting closer with a long prime is even better.

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>>2890605

was that image cropped? sharp as fuck

>>2890110
Jesus Christ. Do you take all those all the time?

Are we talking about 3 lenses at the same time?

Fuck dewds, I can barely bring myself to take a second lens with me most of the time.

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>>2890604
>>2890603
Lens is worth every penny. This is the only side-by-side I have for the Shift function.

Tilt is another thing altogether. Being able to manipulate the plane of focus in 3D space is mind bottling.

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>>2890604
You can correct in post, especially if downrezzing without much trouble.

But you'll never achieve the tilt function without some really creative stacking. These tests taken at same aperture. Really useful

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>>2890713
FML. I get really excited when the TS-E 24mm is mentioned.

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Snapshits and random things.

>>2890466
t. slider babby running Adobe Bloatware

>>2890156
Also weighs a shit ton when you carry it all at once.

24
60
135

>>2890714
>spend thousands on a tiltshift 24
>horizontals not level
>verticals not vertical
>converging/diverging lines

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>>2890604
>Having a T/S lens would be great but they are typically really bulky
That's not true. A Canon 24mm tilt shift might look bulky strapped to a Sony Alpha camera but it's actually not much different in size than a Canon 16-35 UWA.

>going to school for architecture
>T/S lens are expensive as sin
>going to school for construction
>use shovels because bulldozers are expensive as sin
>going to flight school
>flap arms and make airplane sounds because jets are expensive as sin

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>>2891343
Dipshit, they arent thousands, and read the posts. That image is just to demonstrate the tilt function.

>>2891350
That's bulky af in my opinion.

Also, your analogy is absolutely terrible. Nowhere in architecture school is a camera a tool you use.

>>2890046
Coverong the focal range with my current gear:
DA 16-45mm f/4 very sharp lens but the exponential zoom is not good for video. Also the barrel extends at the wide end so onboard flash is a no go.

Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 Macro for sports and portraits, works well with the DA 1.4x TC

Sigma 50-500mm f/4.5-6.3 for wildlife amd planes also generic superzoom and pseudomacro shenanigens.

Throwing in a 35mm babby prime makes my kit useful for everything. How do you rate my showoff?