Noise

Yes, I like. Noise is ok, but that color noise on that picture is awful...

>>2885673
ya, there was literally almost no color in the clouds so I just sort of fucked the vibrance until there was

I think noise is a lot more acceptable than most people generally do. I feel that as years go on digital noise will start to be appreciated the same way film grain is. Its a sort of natural artifact of the process that affects the image in a way that is distinct from human vision.

>>2885658
I don't mind noise with black&white for something like street shooting, but just about any other scenario it's awful looking
imho

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Noise is love, noise is lyfe
I very rarely think noise detracts from an image, and don't get why people get so hung up on it.

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"White" digital noise in luma channel is fine. Artificial grain - crime against photography, so is color noise.
Real pain is posterisation.

>>2885919
the difference between film grain and digital noise is that film grain has a predictable pattern that barely varies within the same type of film. Digital noise on the other hand is pretty much random and will look vastly different with two shots at the same ISO

>>2885658
It really depends on subject, mood and time of day, and it seems to me that noise almost goes hand-in-hand when it comes to creating the impression of darkness, like our brains see noise and think "yeah it must have been dark there". Because I've shot night scenes on tripod at ISO100 and the cleanliness actually makes things seem slightly off or uncanny.

>>2886040
I generally agree with this, but there are instances where artificial grain can be useful, although as with any effect, it needs extreme consideration before application.
The quality of the camera's own noise is fairly important, even if you leave in some luma noise, for instance I've used a 5D2 for many years and while it produced great images in good light, the noise was always poor, especially at low ISO because it took on a grid pattern more clearly.

>>2886048
Not always... as I've just mentioned, certain sensors have a tendency to produce pattern noise which is constant, since the pattern is formed by the sensor's physical topology. While the 5D2 was especially notorious for this, many Canon cameras of around that time had it to varying degrees.