Daily reminder that this is the best camera in the world.

But I've never seen this thread before. How could it be daily?

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Daily reminder you're a delusional shill


Maybe Sony will release a paid firmware update to give you some common sense

>>2881914
Daily reminder that a camera needs a lens to function properly.

>no lens to use it with

>>2881914
What camera is this OP, and where can I buy one?

>>2882133
Sony fe 50mm f1.8
Sony e 50mm f1. 8
Sony fe 50mm f1. 4
Sony fe 55mm f1. 8
Slr magic e 50mm f1. 1
Samyang fe 50mm f1. 4 af
Samyang fe 50mm f1. 2
Samyang fe 50mm f1. 4
Zeiss loxia 50mm f2
Zeiss touit 50mm f2. 8

>sony has no lenses
>sony has more native normal lenses than anyone else

>>2882146
>Sony has more native normal lenses than anyone else
Yet I only need one fucking normal lens..

You also left out the Zeiss 50 1.4 ;^)

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>>2882133

You can attach Canon lenses to a Sony A7R II.

>inb4 sony fags REEEEEEEEEE themselves

>>2882148
Do you mean the sony zeiss? Because i included it.

Did you mean the 55mm 1.4 otus? Or the 50mm milvus? Because neither are native fe.

And when you say you need one normal lens, planar or double gauss? Fast or small? Is af a priority? Are you povvo? So many variables.

>>2882153
No.

I mean the Zeiss Planar 50 1.4 FE.
>when you say you need one normal lens
>planar or double gauss
I'm not that autistic buddy.
>fast or small
Again, Not autistic, a lens is a lens. I'm not going to cry over size or a slightly smaller aperture
>is AF a priority?
I don't need to walk around with crutches, so I don't need digital crutches either.
>povvo
Nope, I just don't need to not even buy, but own yet another 50mm lens. And no. I don't need f0.95 either.

Collecting 50&55mm lenses is pretty much a disability. No amount of justification will appear rational to people who don't have brain problems.

>>2882146
Yes and a true Sony fag will own all of them. Having gear that is actually useful is anathema to Sony fanbois. That, after all, is why they choose Sony

The A7r II is the best camera in the world, not the A7r (original)

Get with the program.

>>2881914
A HA HA HAHA HA

>>2881914
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>buying into the sony meme

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>2882154
So you're telling me you don't care about image quality, usability, size or price point?

No wonder you stick with brands for clueless plebs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2SwyKITEVg

>>2882199
>18 minute video of a fat, fedora wearing faggot
No thanks m8

>>2882183
There's a lot of projection in that statement.

I'm telling you that I don't need another fiddy. While you may be on a never ending quest for the perfect lens and camera body others are not. No wonder you're autistically listing E mount lenses on an imageboard. Maybe you'd be happier back in your DPreview hugbox :^)

>>2881914
http://www.clarkvision.com/articles/does.pixel.size.matter/

http://www.robsphotography.co.nz/Sony-A6000-Sony-A7R-II.html

Daily reminder that the A7R II is one of the worst cameras in the world. I sold it, btw.

>>2882224

Pixel size does not matter in the way most assume.

Sensor size DOES MATTER for low light work. That's obvious when even poor FF sensors have better high ISO IQ than the best APS-C sensors.

APS-C has gotten so good that it doesn't matter for most. But some want it or actually even need it.

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>tfw I want an a7 just for the purpose of using all my old lenses
>too expensive

kill me

contax g lenses would work so well on an a7 even without autofocus

>>2882150
Why? Like putting a Ferrari engine in a fucking Pinto.

>>2882528
more like putting an ls3 in a sw20 mr2

you've got two elements to make a good car slapped together but sometimes you'll bury the gas pedal and kill yourself getting snap oversteer off a cliff

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>>2882514
What? How much are they now?

I copped a refurbished one from Sony over a year ago for $750.

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>>2882535
dang thats a good price

I'll have to wait until the a7ii is that much tho

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>>2882535
That's $750CAD too btw. Should be even cheaper in Burgerland.

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>>2882514
>tfw wanted an A7 because I have a lot of legacy glass
>also wanted a 24mm eqv for my main platform
>2nd hand A7 cost 1/2 the price of new lens
>get A7
>shutter count less than 1000
Totally worth it.

>best camera in the world
>digital

fuck off of my /p/ faggot

>>2881914
>Daily reminder that this is the best camera in the world.
>A7rii
>Not A7rCXiV
Pleab

>no touch screen on A series
>most dont have screens that can flip out and face you
>2016
>lenses ridiculously expensive for trash optics

>>2882820
Who would want a touch screen on a screen that small? Itd be completely useless.

And some A series don't have screens that flip out? Didn't know that. Figure if the base A7 does all of them would.

>>2882820
>>no touch screen
Good, i wouldn't want my camera crippled by light drizzle, the 9 custom buttons and 3 dials mean that menu diving is a thing of the past once you tailor your settings.

>screen won't flip to selfie mode
Up your game, you can use your phone as a remote and viewfinder straight out of the box.

>2016
Yep

>£ for bad optics.
Lets have a quick look at all 3 brands fast 28mm
Canon - not sharp, heavy, middle priced
Nikon - sharp, heavy, highest priced
Sony - sharp, light, lowest priced

No canikon normal touches sony's 55mm optically

Lensrentals have stated the 24 70 is every bit as good as the canon L ii, if not a hair better.

Comparing canikons 85mm options to the gm is just a joke.

I can understand that you're poor and can't afford all of these amazing things, luckily you can adapt ANY lens you want to the sony and is by far the best and cheapest way to make the most of your grandpas old collection of sears shit.

>>2881914
Bayer filter sensor.... Best...
No.

Long way to go before it catches up with the the pleasing natural look of film.

>>2882876
>film
>natural looking

ffs anon, why are you always such a disappointment.

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>>2882876
As an 8 year film fag prior to buying my A7, I'm completely happy with how the files look.

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>>2882883

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>>2882146
Yeah because I really need 10 fucking 50mm lenses

>>2882876
>muh Bayer filter!!!
>what...about...muh...Bayer...filter!!!

I always get a kick when a filmfag waves his hands and says "Bayer filter."

A) Your retina utilizes the same method to detect color. If detecting color across a 2D array imposed some severe deficit vs. detecting it across a 3D stack, then we would only be able to tell using scientific equipment. We wouldn't actually be able to see the advantage because our eyes use 2D filtration/interpolation.

B) When we use scientific instruments, even P&S sized Bayer sensors can discern more tones/colors, and do so more accurately, than 35mm film. APS-C and 35mm easily rank up there with MF in this respect. Color film may use stacked layers, but it is still effectively a dithered mechanism. And tonal/color accuracy is directly related to how many dots / grains / dye clouds (depending on medium) you have.

Put another way: a 2x2 grid of Bayer filtered pixels is more accurate in its assignment of color than dye clouds in a piece of color film that is the same size as the 2x2 array.

When film fags talk about the "pleasing, natural" look of a particular film they are expressing their personal preference for the curves the chemists designed that film to have. It's like saying you love the "pleasing, natural" look of VSCO filters.

Which is absolutely fine. There are numerous films I fucking loved, some of which are no longer made unfortunately. But I don't pretend film is special because chemicals or grains or Bayer filters.

>tfw miss sony's adaptability
>had a voigtlander 50mm with chink AF adapter
>IG #sonyalpha and always got at least 20 likes on IG for my snapshits
>but couldn't get over how light the camera felt

>sold it all and got a x100t and D810
>now kind of regretting

>>2883159
Are you regretting the bokeh loss, lightweightness and muh FF compact sensor or are you regretting that you no longer have to deal with stupid button placement/mapping, compressed raws and awful display modes?

I know how I feel about the A7, being an owner of one alongside a fuji/film system.
Camera doesn't even have an PC sync port.

>>2881914
I've noticed an extreme amount of sonyfags the last week or two

>>2881914
That's not a K1.

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>>2882146
> Sony has more native lenses than anyone else
lol what a retard

>>2883414
They said Normal lenses. For some reason this person only wants to own 8 maybe 9 FE 50/55mm lenses for their A7.

>>2883414
Lol, you cant read good.

>>2883417
It was a demonstration of how much choice sony gives you, its a proper artists tool, as opposed to the one size fits all generic pap that canikon put out.

>ugly
>no native lenses
>fuuuucking focus by wire
>evf lol
>shit battery life
>no lenses
>garbage ergonomics
>isn't any smaller than a ff dslr
>no lenses
>those fucking menus
>no lenses
>orange fucking ring

but muh iso, but muh sharpness, who cares, no one who actually matters uses this pos

>>2883507
>ugly
Won more design awards than any other camera
>focus by wire
Or not, it's your choice, and when the af works off the sensor as opposed to a seperate plane you get much less missed focus so there's no need to manual focus.
>evf
Spot the guy thats never used a good evf
Battery life
>got 350 shots on one battery with ibis on the other day, spares are barely larger than a pair of aa batteries, external battery packs are available.
>ergonomics
Yep, this camera is designed by good looking skinny people for good looking skinny people, excluding you and your greasy, sweaty sausage hands was a design decision, that's why you shoot canon, because they share an ergonomics team with fischer price.
>smaller than ff dslr
No crop dslr has a smaller volume, let alone ff
>menus
Menus are there for setup, not general use, hence the 3 dials and 9 customisable buttons, if you think this is an issue, please list the 12 variables that you would want to change on a regular basis
>orange ring
Wut?
>lenses
Please, list any lenses that aren't available in e mount that the general public would be interested in but aren't available.

I see you're bringing up "muh iso", lemme guess, salty as fuck canon fag, probably has a rabal, kit lens and an old sandy fifty.

Why is it sony haters always have the same tired arguments that have been shown to be wrong time and time again. It's like you're purposefully being dumb/ignorant, which is an odd thing to do.

>>2883545
>Why is it Sony haters always have the same tired arguments
Have you considered that maybe the same issues come up because they're what people care about?
>arguments
This specifically is probably not the right word to use.
>shown to be wrong time and time again
Some of those things listed are not definitive.
>salty as fuck
Nice gaming reference. It has no place in this post.

There's nothing else I really want to say outside of the following things due to your same tired arguments ;^)

As an A7 owner. I don't like the EVF. I'm just not fond of it compared to others I've used. It's position on the camera is poor. I don't use a diopter on any other camera but the edges of the EVF always appear blurry to me, but that's probably because of the internal reflections in the EVF housing.

I don't like the ergonomics personally, some buttons or dials feel very oddly placed and too out of the way. Having some features being able to be custom mapped to one button and not another is limiting for no reason at all.

All that aside, there's no objectively better camera outside of IQ, shutter speed and X sync. It's all about personal preference and your own individual needs. That's why you will consistently see people who either love or hate the A7/A6k series of cameras.

>>2883159
D810 is GOAT senpai. Only if you have babby hands does it suck.

>>2883545
>350 shots
I don't care about your baby arguments but hahajajajahajajshshajah
You think that's a lot? That's about 1/4 what an average DSLR does

A7 is shit because their lens lineup is retarded. Getting better but still retarded. Its either oversized and expensive or affordable but shit.

>>2881914
Uh, writer/director here.
My DP was using this on our latest shoot. Shit looks incredibly cash. The Samyang 35mm was ebing kek lmao desu senpai etc

>>2882492
kek. you absolute photo enthusiast retard.

>>2883662
I'd say there's a large percentage of A7 buyers that buy the body never intending to buy a Sony lens.

>>2883767

Go back to /b/

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>>2884133
This is very true. I was interested in the 50mm FE 1.8, but
>dat purple fringe
>dat no aperture ring
>dat no distance/hyperfocal scale
>dat size
My ultron is so much better than this piece of shit. There is the 50FE 1.4 too, but
>dat price tag
>dat size
Fug, sony.

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>>2881914
THIS IS THE GREATEST CAMERA EVER MADE, THE SONY ILCE-7

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>>2882820
>>no touch screen on A series
>>most dont have screens that can flip out and face you

Literal child detected.

>>2884304
touch screen is useful for pulling focus in video.
flip screen if useful if you're a faggot that likes to film himself.

>>2882883
>>2882887
Very nice. What lenses do you use on the A7?

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>>2884351
if only there was some kind of hardware tool that you could use to pull focus smoothly

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>>2882876
>film
>natural
haha
check out this hipster.

>>2884194
55 1.8 is the only answer.

>>2885035
if only it came with the camera at no extra expense

>>2885029
Thanks. I use Canon FD lenses, a 50mm 1.8 and 28mm 2.8.

>>2881914

Yes, yes it is.

*wipes tear as I justify my purchase

>>2881914
I want one someday.

It would definitely be my go to camera for landscapes, and adaption of Canon Tilt glass helps a lot too.

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>>2881914
sorry OP but, you've been mislead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a2XGpdqENU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucr8DIEMmEQ

>you could have bought in to Fuji glass and an x-t1
>you could have bought a fuji camera that wil still be valid in over 5 years
>you'll never know the feel of superior all metal all glass fuji lenses, instead you are stuck with plastic construction Gangster Master and Zeiss's trash Milvus line
>you bought overpriced sony gear which is will never sell used when it's model is surpassed
>no money left to buy light accesseries but it's ok because... (muh natural light)
>you always be a sucker, a fool, someone who never buys top quality, best value doomed to forever waist your money on garbage

sorry dude

>>2883626
will buy it next year, ill stick with my d700 for now hopefully the d850 will drop the value of the 810 a tiny bit

>>2885415
But do Fuji has a 24-36mm sensor to adapt my ~60 lenses properly? Which is stabilized?
>The same reaction image as you.dng

>>2885460
>can I use lenses that were not designed for my camera with your camera to never unlock their full potential
>the same reaction image as you.jpg

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>>2885466
Ironically, it's the best camera to "unlock their full potential".
A7s2 is "only" 12mpix and the 7R is prone to fine details blurring when handheld because muh 42.2 mpix.
The A7ii is indeed the best to adapt all those vintage glass. Don't even try a comeback with sharpness.

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>>2882171
The picture is of the a7rii you fuckwit. Are you blind?

>>2882835
The Sony 28mm may be sharp, but it is in no way optically superior. I shot with it for nearly a year and I have noticed some serious problems. First of all, the chromatic aberration can be terrible, especially when shooting sunset/sunrise with trees blocking the sky. Second off, it absolutely falls apart when shooting into the sun. Shit tons of flaring and ghosting. Even when just shooting the city skyline at night your ghosting will be so bad that you'll see fain duplicates of buildings and lights.

Now the Zeiss Loxia 21mm, that's a real mans lens. Jesus fucking christ I love that thing.

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>>2881914

A7S II is a pretty neat camera that can do some serious shit for you. But, it's a specialty system that requires the use of adapters for cinema lenses, an external recorder and hoping it doesn't overheat.

I've used it extensively and never use autofocus because of how dismal it is, even with sony/zeiss glass. The EVF is pretty badass.I can zoom in to focus manually on subjects with rather amazing accuracy.

They aren't quite there yet, and the lens selection is fucking bogus.

The one ((((((good)))))) quirk about this system is the ability to use rangefinder glass like Voigtlander.

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>>2885415
>you'll never know the feel of superior all metal all glass fuji lenses, instead you are stuck with plastic construction Gangster Master and Zeiss's trash Milvus line

Zeiss' Loxia series. Look it up. Even all metal lens hoods senpai

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>>2882887
Outside the annoying flare, that's a really nice picture.

>>2885778
>system that requires the use of adapters for cinema lenses, an external recorder and hoping it doesn't overheat.
what are you talking about anon?
Why would you need an external recorder for it? / what kind of overheating? Never had any issues.
The one serious downside of this camera - and now I am not comparing it to a standard 5D III, but Magic Lantern gave me super high standards - is the (sub?)mediocre focus peaking it comes with. Focusing in the fly - without punching in, which can be a torture during concerts etc. - is an issue and probably an external monitor is the answer.

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>>2885794
>what are you talking about anon?

I'm a working cinematographer/dp/director/filmmaker/whatever the fuck you want to call it.

So, I've put the S through its paces.She overheats in outdoor settings. You absolutely must shade the camera or else you risk overheating within as little as 15 minutes. It shuts off after about 45 minutes of continuous shooting indoors.

The 5D3 gives me way less issues, but no 4k or cinema log for post. The FS7, F5 and C300 are amazing systems that do the trick, but they don't have that buttery low-light performance and cost quite a bit to rent. Blackmagic is a fucking joke.

The A7 platform is soooo close to being literally perfect for light-weight videography, but not quite there.

>tldr: I want a RED.

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>>2882535
>>2882538

are these pictures supposed to be good?

>>2885781

I wanted to buy the 21 Loxia but ended up with the 28 Batis because it's easier for idiots abroad to snap pictures me at monuments because 90% of people can't use MF

>>2885820
Just put it at f/8 and focus a little bit before infinity before you hand it to them. That or put it on a tripod with a self timer.

>>2885565
knock knock, it's reality

http://petapixel.com/2015/08/24/42-megapixels-of-garbage-an-unconventional-review-of-the-sony-a7r-ii/

>>2886030
wut, they're mainly just pissed that they're slow super-zoom doesn't resolve 42MP, which isn't a surprise in the slightest.

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>>2886037
"To my great disappointment though, after pulling my shots into the computer, I discovered that despite the resolution of the files, they just looked smudgy — something (as I’ve since discovered) that only seems to happen with my 28-135mm, especially when zoomed in, focusing at hyperfocal. I’ll have to get the lens checked out."

so...

>>2885801

Does Vettel shoot film?

>>2886046
Not with that camera.

>>2886037
The story was, for the most part, very positive and a good read.

I don't think it's too much a surprise that a video-specific lens is less than tack sharp for landscape applications at its long end.

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>>2885777
>Now the Zeiss Loxia 21mm
That lens is pretty much boss tier.

It features 1 less Anomalous Dispersion element than its Milvus equivalent, and it has far less optical complexity. And yet it still outresolves to Milvus, and doing so in a smaller and lighter package.

>>2886055
?

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>>2886127
It's a 1Ds of some variety, you can just barely make out the little gold "Ds" badge.

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Why didn't Sony win, guys? I thought A7RII is the best camera in the world? This reviewer is completely biased.

http://uk.pcmag.com/camera/10393/guide/the-best-mirrorless-cameras-of-2016

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>>2885777

Sounds like maybe you just suck at shooting into the sun then. I love my 28mm and the chromabb that I get usually is minor and can be easily removed in Lightroom.

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>>2886319

>UK
>Giving a shit what the UK thinks.