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foto up: theres no light in this venue wtf edition 2016-06-06 01:25:46 Post No. 2856764
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foto up: theres no light in this venue wtf edition 2016-06-06 01:25:46 Post No. 2856764
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foto up: theres no light in this venue wtf edition
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2016-06-06 01:25:46
Post No. 2856764
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>>2856765
Those 6 lamps were typically off because of the heat. Fml.
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>>2856768
*hardcore kids intensify*
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>>2856771
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>>2856772
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>>2856773
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>>2856778
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>>2856779
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>>2856780
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>>2856784
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>>2856786
averagetrumpsupporter.gif between these 3 desu
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>>2856787
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>>2856789
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>>2856792
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>>2856793
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>>2856794
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>>2856795
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>>2856797
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>>2856803
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>>2856805
My flash batteries died halfway through the night, if it wasn't obvious already
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>>2856809
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>>2856811
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>>2856812
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PRO TIP: stage a photo session with the band and use proper lighting.
While I can appreciate your dedication to getting pics at the live show, the end result is a grainy, autistic sausage-fest of shitty images.
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>>2856813
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>>2856786
"buried alive in a grave called life" is a great name for a hardcore band
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lmao
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>>2856815
>the band
Protip: use your eyes and realize its not a single band, but a short local festival/scene gig.
>While I can appreciate your dedication to getting pics at the live show, the end result is a grainy, autistic sausage-fest of shitty images.
You are suggesting I eschew one type of photo for a completely unrelated type of photo. That's ridiculous. Live photos aren't meant to be a replacement for band portraits, and live photos can't all be under good lighting at a reasonable iso.
If you can't see past the grain or noise of these, the problem is you're simply trying to be interested by a type of photo and a series of social dynamics that do not interest you.
I do not require you to be interested. :^)
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>>2856819
Autistic sausage-fest is a great name for a hardcore band
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>>2856822
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>>2856823
It truly is
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>>2856827
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>>2856828
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put these pieces of shit in the concert thread, where they belong.
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>>2856829
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>>2856830
This is far too many photos for a general thread, newfagmongoloido
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>>2856832
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>>2856835
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>>2856836
I left out one :^)
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>>2856837
And some odds and ends unrelated snapshits of late
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>>2856845
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>>2856847
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>>2856852
>2856852
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>>2856856
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>>2856845
needs blurred out water. loooong shutter.
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>>2856862
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>>2856863
Handheld, iso 800, dr 400 jpeg
not happening
I'll eventually go back to that beach with my tripod though, yeah. Exploration comes first, revision comes second.
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>>2856871
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>>2856873
>this is cool. is that a trailer with a house built around it?
Yeah, that area is prone to floods and has been abandoned/resettled a bunch of times (like, ancient natives in the area tried and failed to settle it, then white people tried and failed in the early 1800s, then freed slaves of said white people tried and failed in the early 1900s, on and on), so you have a lot of "just trying to get by" type of housing out there, mostly abandoned
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>>2856856
>f-number-0.0
u wot
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>>2856877
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>>2856878
adapted lens, as with a lot of these. I guess y'all are used to my exif being hidden lol.
On the note of exif and xpro2s and all that business, let me just state: all of these are SOOC jpegs :^)
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>>2856885
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>>2856889
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>>2856895
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>>2856902
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>>2856906
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>>2856909
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>>2856911
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>>2856915
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>>2856916
dats all for now
remember folks: no fotos allowed
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>>2856911
this one
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So 'x.x' is a Hardcore/fuji fag? Neat, I'm somehow a hardcore kid and just bought a X10.
Liked your photos, tho
I'm somehow disappointed with Nikon D600 12800 ISO... But it's still usable with what I work with...
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>>2856856
Look mum, I posted it again!
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>>2856942
Hi newfag. These photos are from isi
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>>2856956
It's been posted once in a Fuji thread before, and linked more times since in IRC.
So thank you for your admission of tsunderity, I respect your honesty. :^3
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>>2856957
olá,
I don't know isi's photos, I only know his butthurt in some threads, I'm actually new to /p/
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>>2856976
another name in tripcode than ISI?
thank you mate, nice to meet you
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I forgot I had these gifs too
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>>2857000
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>>2857002
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>>2857004
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>>2857006
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>>2856822
tripfag, I take back my suggestions and strongly encourage you to go fuck yourself.
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>>2856847
Tripfag finally posts a decent image but of course he ruined it with 800 ISO, 1/3500 sec instead of a nice sharp 100 ISO. What a shame.
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>>2857039
I can see that someone doesn't have any idea how jpeg dr expansion modes work, but likes to read exif :^)
>thinking my camera can even shoot iso 100
Shame :^))
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>>2856862
That's racist and fucked up, you know niggers can't swim!
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>>2857034
you had it coming, refrain from give sincere advice to internet trolls.
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>>2857039
I hate myself for defending isi, but where is the noise from the allegedly high ISO in this image? Also, from my limited knowledge of fujifaggotry, that's not how their ISO rating works.
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>>2856915
>Moonman
Triple Kay Mafia, represent
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>>2857043
>noise
he never mentioned noise, are you a retarded fuck whiteknight imbecile?
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>>2857047
In what other way would going from 100 to 800 ISO "ruin" this photo praytell? Also, I don't think I'm a whitenight, in fact I've had a go at isi in this very thread.
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>>2857049
>In what other way would going from 100 to 800 ISO "ruin" this photo praytell?
wow just wow. this must be your first month doing photography.
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>>2857051
Nope, it's not. Please point out which part of this picture is "ruined" by the use of ISO 800.
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>>2857051
if you actually knew how to read exif, you'd know it's not "really" iso 800 in the first place. It's a dynamic range setting/exposure bias.
Luckily for you, though, I also shot it metered for 200, for you imbeciles that have no idea what you're talking about on a level deeper than a tumblr infographic.
Be sure to compare them side by side. :^)
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shooting hc shows can be fun but you know damn well nobody wants to look through 50 photos here
there's a concert thread for a reason
also shooting DIY venues without a flash is almost not worth it at all sometimes
and blind justice sucks
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>>2857056
I'll bite some more
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>>2857056
>shooting hc shows can be fun but you know damn well nobody wants to look through 50 photos here
I never said they do, I'm just doing my civic duty to keep non-containment photo threads on the front page.
>there's a concert thread for a reason
containment thread for people like yourself who shoot basically only the one thing, mostly :^)
>also shooting DIY venues without a flash is almost not worth it at all sometimes
I've got instax prints on hand as their sets end as a gimmick, which tends to net hugs. Kinda worth it. Kinda smells awful too.
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>>2857059
I absolutely hate how I edited this but it's old but it's in a house and someone slipped and cracked an aquarium on their head during the last band
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>>2857060
trying to use me shooting one main interest as an insult is hilarious keep moving along dog
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>>2857067
It was no more of an insult than "there's a concert thread for a reason", just friendly bantz about genre-fication ideation
Sorry you're insecure about it :^)
Music photography is not a high level aspiration, and it's somewhere where your personal abilities peak pretty fucking early. I can't imagine being comfortable 'just' doing that, personally.
>keep moving along dog
Quite the comment from the most easily dogged genre of photographer :^)
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>>2857068
8fps burst, load files into stack, make gif from layers etc etc
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>>2857056
tru but its still bit better than troll threads
kinda
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>>2857069
do you ever get tired?
you also sound like you know nothing concert photography and your photos show that as well
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>>2857064
You're shooting a better camera at lower iso and fucking up the exposure of more of the scene than OP
I can ignore the IQ of this thread as being a dark location, I cannot ignore how little you seem to know how to use your camera.
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>>2857051
Still waiting nigga
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>>2857079
I mean.... I'm focusing on punk shows because that's what the main focus of this thread seems to be
obviously the production value of a show is more important than the photographer and if the venue is some random shack then the photos aren't going to be as thrilling but that's why I'm mentioning flash. shooting at 12800 isn't going to make that small room look any better
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>>2857077
>do you ever get tired?
Let me remind you that you showed up in my thread posting pictures ;)
>you also sound like you know nothing concert photography
There's not much to know about it outside of the business side of working with larger acts and venues. Something I have no interest in. It is not a technically involved form of photography, except for some people getting carried away with the gear aspect of it. Only photographers care about noise in music photography, in my experience.
>and your photos show that as well
Your inability to articulate this 'thought' any better than that shows how truly your ass has been blown out by this conversation.
Sorry you couldn't handle the bantz.
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>>2857086
see >>2856809
Also note the earlier shots that do contain flash
Then realize that you're actually just here to posture over some misbegotten sense of importance relevative to your natural environment, the concert thread.
If you truly believe your photos of hardcore shows demonstrate any photographic ability above mine beyond the quality of light and speed of the lenses being used then, man, you're just a walking example of the hilarious egotism that plagues service-photographers.
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>>2857086
man honestly, op's photos seem more punk to me than yours. noisy and lo-fi fits the mood much nicer than generic concert photography aesthetic
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>>2857087
not saying you need to know the ins and outs of every aspect of the business to get photos that aren't turds. I couldn't even tell you were using flash in the first few photos
you're allowed to think I'm some guy with $20,000 worth of a gear at a festival who won't shut up about the morals of cropping and grain reduction but I started out shooting punk shit and I still do. I don't make much money from this and I've decided to devote a section of my life to it because it's enjoyable
in no way am I trying to bring you down, your non concert stuff is good. we're on a shitty message board that's basically the only form of criticism through an online community
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>>2857091
you are allowed to have an opinion you know
there is no panel of judges. I think taking "generic" concert photos of small bands is cool and the bands tend to appreciate it even more
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>>2857091
calm your whiteknighting tits man. there is nothing punk in these boring suburbanite white kid guitar starter pack 1st month doing HXC photos. there is lo fi and there is shit. these are shit.
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>>2857094
whoa what bass is that? looks sweet.
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>divebar lighting
We've all been there bro but you're better off not shooting them where possible as they only serve to make you look like shit
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>>2857104
https://www.instagram.com/angelaowens/
I cite this girl as my favorite punk photographer. yeah she's shooting flashes but she does it creatively and it looks perfect every time. these are pieces of shit venues in boston too and she's just using what she's got
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>>2857092
non-addition to the poster count spotted
>not saying you need to know the ins and outs of every aspect of the business to get photos that aren't turds.
Now now, don't backpedal, you pretty much did try to imply this. You just can't stand by it when it's played back to you.
>I couldn't even tell you were using flash in the first few photos
You didn't notice because you either weren't looking, or can't read light as well as you think you can. It's pretty fucking obvious in several.
I'll assume you weren't looking because you were more worried about telling me nobody cares about music photography than you were about music photography itself. :^)
>you're allowed to think I'm some guy with $20,000 worth of a gear
I don't think that, I'm simply pointing out that the vast majority of mobility in music photography comes from a mixture of gear differential, and social spread. It is not in any way, shape, or form creatively taxing. It's barely even important to have good timing with bursts.
> I don't make much money from this and I've decided to devote a section of my life to it because it's enjoyable
and for that reason you've come to my thread with preloaded suppositions of who has how much experience at what, and a desire to speak down. I've been shooting band shit infrequently (rather than as a focus) since the early 2000s. I know what I'm doing with it. I know you cannot articulate any real difference between the photos you are posting and mine, except for light quality. That's why I'm calling you out, to be honest.
>in no way am I trying to bring you down, your non concert stuff is good. we're on a shitty message board that's basically the only form of criticism through an online community
"A drowning man does grasp at straws", as they say.
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>>2857104
Magical things happen when you stop caring about "looking like shit", kid. People like mementos. When I shoot social things, like music photography, I distribute prints through an instax printer on the spot. No one is concerned in this social context with things looking like shit.
>>2857108
This is good work, and if your work were of this caliber, I wouldn't be giving you the "sit the fuck back down yourself" response that I am. Stylistically though, you have way more in common with me than her. Sorry if that offends.
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>>2857108
You're blind if you think the lighting in her venues is anywhere near comparable to OPs. She may be using flash but you can see from the background that there is still usable lighting.
>Magical things happen when you stop caring about "looking like shit"
You don't care about making good images, got it. I'll bear that in mind from now on
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>>2857119
>You don't care about making good images, got it. I'll bear that in mind from now on
I just don't stress about how good a photo is before taking it, or before showing it to others
You can keep missing photos with your "idk if it'll be good or not" mentality :^)
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>>2857071
just the standard then, it could be an interesting feature though.
>or a stupid fucking gimick /p/ would hate on
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>I just don't stress about how good a photo is before taking it, or before showing it to others
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I'll be honest, these are bad, if the atmosphere was a dozen people standing around, listening to a band they don't like whilst bored out of their skulls, you nailed it.
Its just as important to consider what you exclude from your photos, as what you put in, I'm gonna guess you just picked up your first proper camera and expected gritty, grainy exciting photos. You may get there one day, but it takes a lot more practice, reading and learning.
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>>2857125
Showing off 100% missed photos is a great testament to your approach.
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>>2857136
>Its just as important to consider what you exclude from your photos, as what you put in
Youre regurgitating a quote you don't even understand. This is about framing the photo, the composition, not about what you display.
"Only show your best work" is dishonest business-school advice. It's good if you're trying to exploit a particular market to make money, or if you're trying to meet a certain standard for a certain client. It's naive, anti-intellectual, anti-art, and anti-documentation as a general train of thought towards taking photos.
Curate your portfolio, but don't get carried away with curating an archive.
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>>2857139
I was talking about the framing.
Obviously none of these shots would go in a portfolio.
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Is this a troll thread? Because even you can do better than this, isi. These look like babby's first gig photography using a smartphone.
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>>2857141
Because
>what you exclude from your photos
Is different to
>what photos you exclude from your...
Sorry if this got lost in translation
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>entitled tripfags defending their shit photography
surprise surprise
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>>2856805
Lets just use this as an example though.
Everyone in the crowd has fold arms and a bored expression, makes the dude in the middle look like a spastic having "a moment" instead of a heavy metal hero. You didnt consider your background and the effect it has on your subject.
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>>2857143
Isn't everything a troll thread nowadays?
It's hard to do a lot better in a dark room with a dead flash. It's easy to do much, much worse or nothing at all.
Less than a troll thread this is probably gonna be a pretty good critique filtration thread. It's incredibly obvious when you're sitting at iso 12800 who is actually capable of critiquing the content of a photo and who is not.
I n c r e d i b l y.
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>>2857147
Hey, if you're seeing something that can be interpreted as a critical eye towards the most violent moshers in my photos, maybe these are better than I thought
Thanks, anon!
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>>2857153
A critical eye can be turned on anything, it doesnt make it desirable or valid. I can turn a critical eye on buttered sliced toast, i cant even fault any part of the buttered toast experience, for what it is, it's perfect, but i dont consider it fine dining/haute cuisine/anything more than a snack.
And thats what these photos are, snaps, they serve no purpose except sate the photographers desire to click a button and feel important and involved.
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> they serve no purpose except sate the photographers desire to click a button and feel important and involved.
fucking told
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>>2857160
>perfect, but i dont consider it fine dining/haute cuisine/anything more than a snack.
Yeah, dude. Welcome to the tapas bar.
>And thats what these photos are, snaps, they serve no purpose except sate the photographers desire to click a button and feel important and involved.
u rite kid, have some refried beans
You wanna talk about my egotism, /p/? But you also only want to show your best work? You wanna call me self-centric, but you fail to realize that local musicians will bearhug outright strangers for giving them a photo of themselves?
Take a long, hard look at the cynicism you tout. It's gone stale and bitter. :^)
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>>2857174
I think you're getting confused, people giving you shit are most likely people who shoot gigs a lot because the clueless /p/ denizens wouldn't know not to bother with that shit.
Sure musicians will love any pictures taken of them but they also will parade said pictures around and in a matter of months you'll have moved on and become a better photographer but have to deal with those shit pictures being used as profile pictures or EP covers.
If you're happy to take shit pictures and put a smile on some peoples faces then well done but don't come here with those shit pictures and expect us to praise you for your good fucking deeds.
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>>2857160
>feel important and involved.
isn't that kind of the point of hardcore punk music? I mean it looks like an audience member is singing with the band in one photo.
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>I think you're getting confused, people giving you shit are most likely people who shoot gigs a lot because the clueless /p/ denizens wouldn't know not to bother with that shit.
People that shoot gigs a lot tend to project their own priorities in place of more clearly vernacular and participatory ones. It's the flipside of the professionalism coin.
You seem to be aware that you have no technical or compositional advice to give me beyond "the light is bad dont shoot in it!", but "don't bother with that shit" has always been a form of critique I have no time for.
>Sure musicians will love any pictures taken of them but they also will parade said pictures around and in a matter of months you'll have moved on and become a better photographer but have to deal with those shit pictures being used as profile pictures or EP covers.
Here you are again, under this silly notion that you're ~experienced~ in a social event where photographers are a dime a dozen. I already 'deal with this' if you consider such a minimal thing stressful. Have some teenage isi work with pic attached.
>If you're happy to take shit pictures and put a smile on some peoples faces then well done but don't come here with those shit pictures and expect us to praise you for your good fucking deeds.
I don't care about praise from 4chan, lmao
>your good fucking deeds
I care about giving you painful cognitive dissonance by introducing direct conflict to the concepts that resound within the echo chamber that you mistakenly believe to be anything but anonymous dpreview. :)
Don't worry. I'm sure the rest of you are very professional.
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>>2857187
>You seem to be aware that you have no technical or compositional advice to give me beyond "the light is bad dont shoot in it!", but "don't bother with that shit" has always been a form of critique I have no time for.
Photographers have a choice on what they frame and where, the issue here is you chose a shit venue with too small a crowd to create any sort of tangible atmosphere, that falls on you for picking a shit venue. You can polish turds all you want but shooting at such high ISO with no dynamic lighting in that venue works on no level. If you want people to go through each image and give better critique then the set as a whole needs to be more inviting. People post this kind of shit when they get their first DSLR and go to a friends gig, they might get some helpful advice but you should know better. These are crap, they are crap in every conceivable way. You may have tried your best with the framing but there is so much going against you that you might as well have no bothered with it at all. That's why people are saying "why did you fucking bother" because it's the first thought that comes to mind for anyone that has suffered through shooting a gig like that.
What did you honestly expect when you made this thread?
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>>2857212
>Photographers have a choice on what they frame and where, the issue here is you chose a shit venue with too small a crowd to create any sort of tangible atmosphere, that falls on you for picking a shit venue.
There's plenty of tangible atmosphere. It's just not the one you want it to be. So stuck trying to make things what you want, and not just taking what things are.
>You can polish turds all you want but shooting at such high ISO with no dynamic lighting in that venue works on no level.
if you keep repeating it, maybe it'll change.
SOOC, btw. Hardly polished.
>If you want people to go through each image and give better critique then the set as a whole needs to be more inviting.
If you don't want to critique, you don't have to. Just don't try to pass off the decision not to critique because you don't care as a meta-critique unto itself.
>People post this kind of shit when they get their first DSLR and go to a friends gig, they might get some helpful advice but you should know better.
You've already admitted to not actually looking through them because they weren't inviting. They're posted chronologically-ish, so can I assume you're actually only addressing the first couple?
That'd explain the lack of response to the odds-and-ends at the end.
>These are crap, they are crap in every conceivable way.
"Kopi Luwak is the world's most expensive coffee. Though for some, it falls under the category of "too good to be true." In the Sumatran village, where the beans are grown, lives a breed of wild tree cat. These cats eat the beans, digest them and then... defecate."
>You may have tried your best with the framing but there is so much going against you that you might as well have no bothered with it at all.
Again, your *own* egocentrism is what is being laid bare here.
"I scoff on this scene, unapproachable by a photographer of my merit"
You clearly only like to work in comfort. Some people like a challenge.
1/2
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>>2857216
>That's why people are saying "why did you fucking bother" because it's the first thought that comes to mind for anyone that has suffered through shooting a gig like that.
Bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy, that question, innit? I shot it because I already said I would shoot it. The same reason "anyone that has suffered through shooting a gig like that" ostensibly did. The only difference is, I don't seem to loathe the experience the same way you do. Can't say I'm sorry for that.
>What did you honestly expect when you made this thread?
I expected a thread to appear on /p/ that contains photos on the first page and doesn't exist for containment. Some lightweight banter and a once-in-a-lifetime chance for dumpster diving my incredibly #rare exif. The usual bidness.
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>>2856768
haha
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>>2856778
Why didn't they get up ON the stage they're backed up against, and use all the can lights hanging from the ceiling?
Also, is that literally someone's living room lamp from their mom's house?
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>>2856942
The image here isn't disappointing because of the camera, it's because of the light in the room. No sensor in the world would take that weird green mush of light and make it good looking. Not trying to insult you at all, merely trying to get you off the gearfag train before you leave the station.
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>>2857267
one band did put their drumset up there, but for the most part the stage is off-limits right now I think. I walked up on it a couple of times for photos and the floors pretty soft and spongey, probably rotten, so probably not allowing the jumping around and shit on stage because of insurance.
The venue is 6 or 7 decades old and pretty run down, and I think this gig might have been in part meant to help renovate it or something
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>>2857267
>Also, is that literally someone's living room lamp from their mom's house?
Oh and yes, thats exactly what that is, haha.
That band was selling "PORN KILLS LOVE" stickers and shirts. You can probably figure out a lot about them from those two details.
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>>2857272
Oh, got it. I was thinking something along the lines of "connecting with all 9 people in the audience" but that's a better reason I guess. Shame though. Those little lights up there make or break the quality of light at shows (duh). I'd have been really frustrated to see them hanging up there doing nothing.
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>>2857274
Your reasoning is totally a thing in the hardcore scene too though, so its very likely a mix of both.
I'm sure they let the jazz bands use the stage still, and I'm not sure the hardcore bands would ask to use the stage, as it were
Guest vocals from the audience or other kinds of interaction are so common that if its on a stage, half the audience will be too
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loling heartily at this thread. holy fuck id do better with my 1.5mpx digicamera from 2003.
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>>2857329
>2003
>not using film
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>>2857556
This isn't tumblr, I'd appreciate something more than a fuckin gif
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>>2857558
This isn't a garbage can, I'd appreciate it if you took a photo of something besides some fucking flowers.
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>>2857555
I think that 4 would look best printed
reason being that the warm colors complement the positive vibe of the flowers, while having more separation from the background than 5
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>>2857555
either three or four. 1 and 2 are lifeless cold and in 5 the warmth cripples the overall image
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>>2856822
The grain and noise isn't a problem at all, the problem is that the pictures are absolute dogshit.
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>>2857587
I think people doing things just triggers you desu senpai :^)
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>>2857658
I'm not triggered by the photos, I just find it sad that you spend so much money and time on this when the output is so poor.
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>>2857661
http://jamiewilliams.22slides.com/
Nah I think my outputs pretty fine and you just conflate the fact that *you* only take a couple of pictures a year for meaning everyone else is the same, so any given thread is deeply indicative of ones output.
I never said you were triggered by the photos, though. Just the whole "doing things." ;)
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>>2857662
I'm sure you think that honey, bless your heart
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>>2857665
Goodness gracious, he's trying to play the Atlanta-saccharine dismissal but doesn't know where to dial the passive-aggression to.
It's like Australians tryna sound Kentucky.
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>>2857667
:^)
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It's nice to see you dropped the borders
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>>2857673
It's just because I batch-resized the folder to save time, same reason they still have exif
The borders will be back to rifle your bore soon.
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>>2857555
4, warmer and better contrast.
1. for tumblr
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>>2857436
Yes
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>>2857212
this poster hits the nail on the head
everyone is allowed to believe what they want and take pictures the way they want and criticize they want
I'm just wondering. I get that you may like these bands, maybe you're friends with some of them. you're a good photographer, I've seen your work before and I like it. I think you had that one of some dude getting rained on or something?
my question is: is the point of these concert pictures to showcase the fact that you brought your camera to a show and these are the photos you got? in the most organic way possible?
it confuses me
I like taking pictures of punk bands because it's fun. I like the results I get, I like seeing bands, I like seeing bands like the results I get. I'm ignoring all the professional work I've done/do for the point here and my point.
I always see other photographers at shows and sometimes their photos are shit but they're still enjoying it and the bands still enjoy having their photo taken whether they're good or not
actually the last part is a lie, some people hate photographers. in high school I shot taking back sunday and the vocalist smacked the camera I was borrowing and it scarred me a little bit. and I've had some angry punks in the crowd at my flash but fuck em
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>>2857791
>my question is: is the point of these concert pictures to showcase the fact that you brought your camera to a show and these are the photos you got? in the most organic way possible?
>it confuses me
I don't know what's so confusing about it, or what you're even asking.
That poster didn't hit the nail on the head at all. He revealed a typical juvenile and self-obsessed mentality that many photographers. More concerned with their self-defined status as a photographer, and their self-assured level as one, and much less so concerned with taking photos in their day to day life than with how ~good they look~ when someone encounters their work for the first time.
It's the same self-aware, image-centric mentality that makes facebook in 2016 such a more 'negatively' polarized space compared to say...Myspace in 2006.
More worry over what the random person that finds you without any context of who you are or where you come from thinks than what those who you're actually involved with think.
It's also a pretty set-in-the-now mindset that has little regard for how we as photographers work over the course of a lifetime, or at least, as prior generations of photographers did, completely eschewing any thought of the long term value of photographs towards documenting a social context in a particular time or place.
There's some inherent cognitive dissonance in a view of photos as so easily disposable when they don't meet your "standards" of how good you think you are, or the definition you try to rope all of your work into as a genre-fied photographer, and simultaneously living in the era of found photography and the domination of the vernacular.
But we're verging on another debate entirely with that. The Polymath vs the Carpenter Ant.
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>>2857809
>self-obsessed mentality that many photographers
*that many photographers display.
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>>2857809
but that's what I was trying to clarify
my question as simply put is (that you seemed to asnwer): did you take all the photos as a form of documenting what you did for the day?
I'm going to be critical of concert photos because it's what I'm into the most. I'm guilty of my status and mentality because it's something that I care about. I'm shooting a festival I dreamed of shooting this weekend. no matter how far into it I go, it will be a passion for me because I like taking pictures of bands. I want to travel more and document my days but I have two jobs and I'm a full time student, one of those jobs is as a photographer at a VENUE so of course I'm going to focus more on pictures of people in bands
I'm going off on like three tangents at once but my point is I like taking concert photos because I like documenting what happens at a show. I don't think you did a good job doing that with the photos you took. I also understand that there is a doxa of concert photography that everything needs to be perfect and look great and I think that's dumb but whatever
>>2857813
buddy, I can send you the RAWs to tweak if you want
and I'm not even sure what your point is with how many people are in my photos. two of them are shows in living rooms, one is at a skate park, and one doesn't even have a crowd lmao. I can't change how many people show up. do you want a smaller crowd? here's a smaller one for you
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>mfw two lousy tripfags get into a bitch slap fest over some dive bar snapshits
Carlo, you're utter trash. It boggles my mind that you think you have any authority or respect on this board when you have produced so little quality. Must be the Italian in you.
James, learn to self edit for fuck's sake. I don't want to dig through 80 shitty band pics from that night you tried to recapture your teen years just to find a cute selfie. Instagram is terrible for dumps.
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>>2857823
>. I don't think you did a good job doing that with the photos you took.
what the fuck does that even mean?
"I'm pretty sure these more interesting things happened and you missed them"
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>>2857827
as corny as it sounds people like you make me feel better about myself and I am going to continue shooting bands I like to shoot and getting paid and going to festivals because those are all things I enjoy. I'm not shooting because I want to get my name out there, I'm shooting because I like shooting, not impressing people on the internet. cry harder
>>2857830
do I have to break it down further that I don't think the photos look good/tell a good story
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>>2857836
>I don't think the photos look good/tell a good story
As opposed to the disconnected and random photos that you're posting in someone elses thread?
At least OP seems aware that they're not doing anything special or new.
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>>2857853
>Want:
>• We come here for photos, so post yours as often as possible, even if "image unrelated" to your text.
as far as the second part, that was what I was asking about previously
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>>2857871
Lol m8, that was weird idiosyncratic editorializing by eggleston. No one else actually wants people to post their own photos all the time. It's especially bad etiquette to do it in someone else's photo thread.
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>>2857675
They don't bother me I just think it's better this way
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>>2857871
>as far as the second part, that was what I was asking about previously
I guess the question then is, do you realize that you're also doing nothing special or new, that you're on the same level as OP?
I feel like you don't lol
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All these photos are shite
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>>2857999
nice trips
>>2858263
you're allowed to think my photos are shit but the publications I send them to like them and want me to shoot for them repeatedly. not even in a way to say YEA MY SHIT IS GOOD HERE'S PROOF but like.... I do this for fun and they want more from me so I'm gladly going to produce more because mutual benefit
>>2858345
I'll live. I'm driving to bonnaroo right now. I'm enjoying talking to people on a scale that isn't praise because concert photography is a place for 99% praise and 1% critical conversation. I get that it's tougher to create something original because we're all shooting the same artists making the same poses but it's fun to me so I'll continue doing it.
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>>2857055
Hey isi, how does Fuji's DR affect ISO? Interested in an X-T10 but not all that familiar with mirrorless or fujis
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>>2858654
ok
>>2858654
>you're allowed to think my photos are shit but the publications I send them to like them and want me to shoot for them repeatedly.
this is no different than assuming a job at a local paper makes you a Magnum shooter, y'know
Music press isn't known for heady involved opinions on aesthetics. They just want fast turn-around. You're most likely just easy to work with.
>>2859414
see: http://www.fujirumors.com/how-to-expand-dynamic-range/
The ability exists in the older Fujis as well, but is of course most seamless and usable on the xpro2.
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>>2859483
>bands dont want good photos, they want any old shit as long as it comes in quick.
Lol, no.
Your defense is as bad as your photos.
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>>2859486
I actually like this.
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No flash, kit lens, 6 year old crop body, dark room of a band playing to almost no one.
Doesn't matter, make it work, pic related.
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>>2859529
Are you an idiot, son?
I was talking about the music press, not bands. Do you know what the word press means?
Lol, no. You're a fucking idiot, pal. :^)
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>>2859531
The pride music photographers have in their shitty work while simultaneously denouncing shitty work of similar quality is simply astounding.
That room is also clearly not nearly as dark. Do you even know how dark 12800 iso implies? Do you think anyone can't tell what kind of lighting that blue and purple tinge is coming from?
Don't embarrass yourself, yo.
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>>2859534
Thats a far more engaging photo than any of yours, and looking at the noise I'd bet it's at an equally dark venue.
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>>2859583
The photo I posted is at iso 6400, 1/15, f4.0.
Anon was correct.
It doesn't take a genius to add visual interest to a boring scene, it doesn't need the best gear. For this example I just timed the shot with the strobe from the venue.
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>>2859646
And this thread is 12800 pushed even higher in post
You should learn more about exposure parameters. That's way less light.
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>>2859646
>STROBE
That's light dumbass.
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>>2859691
But 12800 is ISO 6400 on every camera that isn't Fuji.
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>>2859697
No. 12800 is less sensitive than normal on fuji. They're slower not faster.
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>>2859646
>the strobe from the venue
>the strobe
lol if you think your photos are equivalent light to these, then I guess I understand why you're so blown away with your own work.
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Itt: plebs argue about pedestrian iso's
A7s or go home poorfags.
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>>2859728
A7s would have a little less noise (but not a LOT less noise, after down-sampling) and the light would still be complete shit. The camera is great, but it's not magic.
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no light edition? i couldnt see these guys myselfwith all the fog and low lights.
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>>2859733
Noise ain't everything. The A7s would have significantly better dynamic range and color bit depth.
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>>2859779
>This gig looks like it sucked dick, and these pictures make me feel really uninspired, and sad that you had to be there.
It was actually pretty great, just not much of a visual experience. I was happy to be there. I love cohesive and tight knit scenes, I like watching them interact.
I wouldn't mind more light, but you can keep your overly_detached_famous_subject.jpg style of music photo. I'm way more interested in documenting subcultures than in furthering celebrity culture.
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>>2859790
>when you wanna be a scene queen but you're no longer a teen
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>>2859799
No, I'm not part of the hardcore scene and have no desire to be. I was there with a jam-oriented band.
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>>2859809
Sorry you're getting old, jamie. It happens to all of us.
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>>2859790
> you should probably have better pics/gear then
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>>2859780
>The A7s would have significantly better dynamic range and color bit depth.
At ISO 12800? Source?
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>>2859817
You kids never learn that I don't take you seriously unless you focus on the details, do you?
Never change. :^)
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>>2859819
>he shoots with a fujifilm x pro2
look dude. Fuji doesn't make very good cameras, and if you want to shoot good pictures in low light, you need a great lens, and a full frame censor. There are no ways around it.
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>>2859818
DXO doesn't test fujifilm for whatever reason, but it's likely that the Xpro2 uses the A6000's sensor.
Here's an easy comparison.
http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-A7S-versus-Sony-A6000___949_942
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>>2859821
Weird how all of this ignorant trolling assertive asshole shit shows up right around the same time in most of these threads, and then when it's gone from one thread, it's also gone from the rest of the board...
I've shot shows in poor light with:
5Dc
7D
7Dmk2
D7100
D4
5Dmk3
X-T1
XPro2
a6300
In low light, they all look like shit, because in low light, the scene looks like shit. The lens you have doesn't matter. The size of your sensor doesn't matter, so long as you're more or less in the same generation.
On a great sony sensor, you lose dynamic range and depth DRAMATICALLY until about ISO 1600, when they're neck and neck with canon's "terrible" sensors. Colors look bad because the light source you're dealing with is usually very narrow spectrum. Detail looks bad because there are no shadows to form the shapes, because the light is so uniformly terrible across the whole frame.
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>>2859823
>but it's likely that the Xpro2 uses the A6000's sensor.
Um no, it doesn't. It's very different, and the performance blows the a6000 out of the water.
Also, where is the graph showing dynamic range across the ISO range? I only see a standard base ISO rating.
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>>2859821
Fuji is based at high ISO, the fact that these photos are bad has nothing to do with the XP2.
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>>2859831
Dude you need to get over that, it's in daylight and it doesn't demonstrate shit.
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>>2859833
So what you're saying is that it's not the camera, but the light that's the issue? Weird...
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>>2859841
In your example, yes. The difference between high Iso performance and low light performance.
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>>2859847
Please expand on the differences. I could see AF being an issue, and potentially framing, but since her shots are all in focus, and framed as intended... what else is there?
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>>2859849
Quality vs quantity of light
You're visually illiterate if you don't get it
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>>2859849
It's in the same.. Low light, high iso.
Low light with high Iso with will show better examples for noise and detail.
High iso, the amount of light isn't relevant, you can have a camera from 2008 do just as good in daylight.
Think about it as a fishing net, in high Iso you're just testing the strength of the net, it doesn't matter how big the fish is. In low light, you're testing the sizes of the fish you can catch, that can depend on how big the net's holes are, if you're only testing big fishes, the size of the jokes don't matter, if you try catch small fishes with large holes, you're gonna have a bad time.
Hope you understood that. Big fish = daylight etc
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>>2859861
So then the only way to show you that the camera actually does fine in low light is to carry both an XPro2 and an a7s to a dark room and take photos with each, and show that both look pretty equally terrible when it is in fact the room's shitty light that is bad. Yes?
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>>2859865
Fuck you're retarded.
Only isi can deal with you lol
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>>2859866
>Fuck you retard.
Wow, that was easy. I figured you'd have some sort of evidence to back it up in any way at all, but apparently not...
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>>2859868
I'm being triggered, fuck I don't know what's happening to me.
Anyway. Fine. You are retarded because you still don't understand the difference. But I do apologise for calling you a retard and not saying why, where's my manners, I forgot I was on 4chan not reddit.
Yes that's how you would do it, doesn't have to be in a room though, just anywhere with low fucking light. They won't be equally shit unless they have similar performing sensors. That's the measure of low light performance, as opposed to high iso, which DOES NOT show how well your camera will do for, example, astrophotography or a club or where OP was, a dim venue.
I gave the fish analogy because you obviously can't comprehend English too well. But hey I'm a retard too.
Now, if you still don't understand the difference, stay off 4chan, you're just going to be made fun off and make yourself seem like a fucking retard.
Thank you.
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>>2859871
So what if I had a dark room, and used a tripod and base ISO to bring the room up to a normal exposure? Would that look bad, since the camera doesn't do well in low light? It would still be low light, right?
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>>2859799
underrated post
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>>2859874
Finally, a good question pops out of your ass.
No, it's not the same, pushing iso in pp is not the same as taking a photo at higher iso
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>>2859878
>Pushing ISO in pp
I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about a correct exposure in camera at base ISO in low light (where you say the camera is not doing well)
Also,
>pushing iso in pp is not the same as taking a photo at higher iso
It 100% literally is, on a Fuji (or any other Sony ISO invariant sensor)
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>>2859871
Here's a shot in low light, but at base ISO! Tell me which flaws the camera has that cause this to look bad?
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>>2859912
Or this one. I went even lower light. How is the camera failing? I'm genuinely trying to learn.
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>>2859888
>It 100% literally is, on a Fuji (or any other Sony ISO invariant sensor)
It's very similar but not literally the same. Just interchangeable and more easily altered to taste if pushed.
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>>2859888
>It 100% literally is, on a Fuji (or any other Sony ISO invariant sensor)
No it isn't, there's still a difference is shadows and highlights. You can't underexpose the crap out of an image then try push it 4 stops and expect the same results as you'd get exposing it at 4stops higher. That's just not going happen on any sensor of this day and age.
I didn't say the camera was doing shit at its native ISO lmao why would you shoot native ISO in low light, you can't, OP couldn't. You need a faster shutter speed.
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>>2859938
Wait, so it's not that the camera is bad at high ISO, and it's not that the camera is bad in low light... So it must be low light AND bad ISO, since apparently the low light at base ISO looks fine?
So here's low light, at ISO 6400. This one looks a LOT like
>>2859912
to me...
I'm just trying to be objective and figure out what the issue actually is here.
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>>2859945
No no, it is how bad it is in low light. And that's depending on what you're shooting. For agnotologist's thread, his photos were of the night sky, you don't see skin tones or anything in that, but rather the blacks and different colors of stars. In his thread it's mostly shadows, highlights and skin tones. In your photo, it's controlled light, a wall and a bicycle, yes it shows shadows but that's not too relevant as there's enough light to show those finely. If you pixel peep enough, without pp, you will see the difference between ISO 200 and ISO 20000 shadows and blacks and all else.
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I love how /p/ often brings out those people who are absolutely fucking clueless about photography. Especially whenever it comes to light.
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>>2859953
>If you pixel peep enough, without pp, you will see the difference between ISO 200 and ISO 20000 shadows and blacks and all else.
So it's fine at high ISO, and it's fine at base ISO, and it's fine at low light, and it's fine at high ISO in low light, and to notice an issue, you have to pixel peep, without any post processing...
Is that what you're saying? I'm just trying to get a sentence that is:
"In low light, the XPro2 will do poorly at X even with post processing and without getting in at 200%"
Where X = something specific that I can test to figure out why another camera would be better.
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>>2859958
Okay wait good example. Shoot a portrait at native and 6400. You can see the difference yourself with color degradation, grain, noise and whatever else.
Yes it's fine at base ISO, depending on what you shoot, it's fine at high ISO, depending on what do you shoot, it's fine at low light DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU SHOOT. But that's moving away from the topic we started at, as we are now introducing dependencies.
Lastly when I said pixel peep enough, I didn't mean that it's hard to see the difference. You jist won't see a huge difference at first glance.
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Yall autistic as fuck now lmao
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>>2859960
Portrait on the way. Hang tight.
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>>2859967
it's all because of your Fuji friend here
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>>2859977
The guy proving you wrong after every post you make? I'm not sure it's his fault.
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>>2859979
He isn't :^)
He's just doesn't understand the difference between low light and high ISO testing
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>>2859960
>Shoot a portrait at native and 6400. You can see the difference yourself with color degradation, grain, noise and whatever else.
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>>2859982
Also
>>2859979
Don't be like that anon. We're all learning here.
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>>2859983
yep good example, can't be too harsh on the skin because you aren't framed the exact same in both, but this demonstrates what I said about the shadows and all that shit.
parts circled are the obvious differences of noise and color degradation.
This would be a suitable high iso performance test.
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>>2859987
How you're just grasping for straws
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>>2859988
hey if im right, im right :^)
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>>2859987
Bit of noise reduction, and those are the exact same photo for all intents and purposes. Absolutely nothing to warrant "That camera is bad at low light"
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>>2859992
If you were right, yeah, you'd be right. But you're not.
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>>2859825
Fujifilm must be using some other secret 24.3 megapixel sensor made by Sony that we don't know about. ;)
The "graph showing dynamic range across the ISO range" is on that same page under the measurements tab. You can compare SNR, dynamic range, tonal range, and color sensitivity between the two cameras that way.
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>>2859999
Image samples (and copper wiring) would suggest that that is the case, yes.
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>>2859999
They technically are.
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This is for you fags concerned with high iso potential and all that mess.
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>>2860243
Hey, now this is an isi photo I can get behind.
>2:3 in the trash for portrait shots tho
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>>2860248
I keep my files 2:3 generally, but when I print I usually do crop 4:5 on portrait.
It was one of the guitarists birthdays today, so there was a little thing at a Brewery. There was also light.
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Ill get around to the band photos eventually, y'all don't care anyway :^)
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>>2860250
Why are so many of your photos out of focus? You have an evf, there's literally no reason to ever miss focus.
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>>2860253
I don't have the time or energy currently to explain aesthetics to you. Go look at some paintings.
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>>2860240
it was just the one guy who didn't know the difference between high iso and low light tests. I, anon, savior of /p/, sorted him out, he should be good now.
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>>2860257
I just wanted to show off the "lol I handheld an astro guys" desu
The lights shining on homie turned out really well on this one with the flash drag imo, especially since he actually wore his shorts tonight
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>>2860259
your thread is now troll free
post nudes
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>>2860259
These are incrddibly boring, the dragged flash doesn't add to the scene and the musicians look plebby and uninterested.
This anon >>2859646 shows a much better use of dragged flash, it strengthens the geometry of the image, also the muscian looks like they're enjoying themselves.
No-one cares about what light was there, your compositions and choice of "decisive moments" are outright failures, not to mention the processing, missed focus and shit lenses.
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>>2860264
There are 109 images in this thread and you're trying to pretend to be an anon that just so happens to have skimmed through to that one.
Ain't an ounce of awareness in your samefaggy bones, m8
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>>2860271
lol, that was supposed to be an american flag made of upward pointing hand emojis. Oh well.
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>>2860266
Ur probably the saltiest and memeiest tripfag i've seen on /p/ and these photos suck, please fuck off.
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>>2860266
>hurr i dragged flash
>heres a much better example, already in your thread, with an explanation of why it's superior.
>hurrrrrrrrrdurrrrrrrrrr no anon, because you're also anon, so my shots arent awful, hurrrrrrrr.
Get rekt faggit
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>>2860278
If you loathe looking through photos perhaps reconsider the boards you spend your time on. There's always /g/. :^)
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>>2860271
Holy fuck alabamans be all kinds of ugly/inbred
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>>2860283
He's not from Alabama. Everyone else is.
You got juked, innit?
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but da focuz doe :^(
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these are shit
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>>2860288
Can you quack like a duck when you suck
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>>2860289
Aw, why'd you delete the other post? :^)
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>>2860292
I didn't want you to feel bad. But I know you do now :^)
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Wow, now I understand the isi hype train.
These are all really bad, and her defense of them is some of the most hilarious, delusional prose I've read.
Ken/10, will troll agen.
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>>2860294
>These are all really bad, and her defense of them is some of the most hilarious, delusional prose I've read.
Where have you seen me defending them?
Live music photography is a trash-easy genre where the subject and venue are 90% of the output, the other 10% being access/freedom of movement. It is not a genre where the end result is expected to be particularly exciting to other photographers.
No, I'm not posting these because I think they're good. I'm posting them because this is a photography board, and this is a photography thread.
Only non-photographer gearfags get rustled by photo threads. :^)
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>>2860298
>Where have you seen me defending them?
>Live music photography is a trash-easy genre where the subject and venue are 90% of the output
Holy fuck Isi, put the bong down and go to bed.
If it's such an easy genre, why are these all so bad? Or did you not get the access/freedom of movement you required.
>It is not a genre where the end result is expected to be particularly exciting to other photographers.
The fuck are you chatting, are you implying that a stage with all the coloured lights, fog machines, amazing outfits and energetic models pulling all kinds of shapes with their bodies and faces ISN'T exciting for a photographer?
you're a fucking moron love.
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>>2860298
against the other tripfag
You just won't admit they're shit and do not deserve their own thread, I'd rather see gear talk, rpt, film talk, all of that shit, than see these. These do not deserve a thread. You'll never be good :(
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>>2860300
>Holy fuck Isi, put the bong down and go to bed.
Hey Moopco, sorry you had a little freakout on reddit over me seeing your thread. Hope you recovered well! :^)
>If it's such an easy genre, why are these all so bad? Or did you not get the access/freedom of movement you required.
They're perfectly adequate for what they are, which is social-context photos of a local band playing at a local brewery. Or social-context photos of a tight-knit hardcore scene consisting of late teens/early 20s folks.
Autism is approaching that social context as though it were U2. Know your place applies to aesthetics, too.
>The fuck are you chatting, are you implying that a stage with all the coloured lights, fog machines, amazing outfits and energetic models pulling all kinds of shapes with their bodies and faces ISN'T exciting for a photographer?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm implying. You're also getting carried away with your imagination there. Wew lad.
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>>2860302
>my photos are allowed to be uninteresting because it accurately portrays the evening.
This is the exact opposite of your job as a photographer and friend, I'm sure your friends would be much happier if you took photos that they could proudly display on social media, instead of trying to hide them, because it shows they can't bring 10 people to a gig. This is bad for the band getting new fans as it instills "well they're probably not very good if they look this boring and no-one has gone to see them", but more importantly shots like this may mean that those bands get passed by from promoters, promoters make their money from bands bringing in large groups of friends and fans to make money - if your band isn't pulling in at least 20 people for EVERY small gig, then they're unlikely to get to play again.
tl;dr, do your friends and yourself a massive favour - stop taking photos.
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>>2860302
ISI GOT REKT
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>>2860312
Lmao, look at this autist
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>>2860312
oh, btw, this was actually a bandmember's birthday party. Sorry you misinterpreted things as business due to your autism. :^)
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>>2860312
Was isi hired to shoot, by the band, for promo purposes? I don't remember seeing that in the thread...
I took it to be the same as all of the rest of isi's photos - documenting a thing that was happening, in a fairly honest way.
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>>2860465
we all know it's you isi, you trip drop a lot :^)
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How do you find local gigs like this to shoot at?
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>>2860764
>spends 300 posts defending her band shots, saying band shots are ez mode
>last post
>these aren't good because band photography isn't my thing.
Fucking lol friendo.
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