After 6 Years And 720,000 Attempts, Photographer Finally Takes

>>2710455
>Perfect shot
I mean it's good, real fucking good, but it's still not perfect.

I'd have rather seen a full reflection and a more vertical, symmetrical photo.

Considering he's tried 3/4 of a million times I'd expect a much better shot. 6/10

>>2710462
Exactly what I was thinking. He didn't even crop the image so the bird was centred. If you're going to call it "the perfect shot", than it better actually come somewhat close to the claim.

>>2710455
is that missed focus or motion blur?
>oversharpened as fuck.
>cropped reflection
>perfect.
6 more years.

>>2710496
>Bird diving into water with high speed
>is that motion blur?
I swear to god, most of you idiots must be useless high-school dropouts

>>2710498
>missed focus or motion blur
I swear to god, most of you idiots can't even read.

snapshit/10. would delete in camera.

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Birds thread?
Birds thread!

You might've seen these, processed again in Lightroom this time.

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Also kit lens

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>this thread

holy fuck you untalented fucks commit fuking suicide lmao

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>>2710499
>can't understand a basic rhetorical comeback
I swear to god, most of you dropouts are useless pieces of shit.

>inb4 another LELLELELE NO U comeback

Let me explain:
The bird is diving in at high speed. If you take a look at the focused area (see the water) you will notice the bird is in focus. So the blurryness is due to it's high velocity.
You should learn to observe and draw conclusions for yourself you stupid mouthbreather.

700.000 tries after, can you literally say he "nailed it"? i wouldnt

id say he got close. but close to what, its very uninteresting as a picture AND as a subject. why spend 6 years and bother generations of birds and other animals with your stupid presence. 6 years obsessed with the same fucking lame photo idea sounds a lot like clinical autism.

>>2710521
streetnoobs need not apply

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Some backyard snapshits

Dunno bird eyeing walnut remains on a crooked lamp pole

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Pair of european thriostles (blackbirds) eating snowberry and looking at me suspiciously.

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Male throstle, less daring than the female.
"Hey honey, go out in front of the suspicious human and see if anything happens"

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That's it, folks!

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>>2710527
also inb4 soft, CA etc.
Lens is crap, Sigma 400mm

So much salt ITT.

What I get from this more than anything is that the photographer had an exact idea of the shot he wanted and did not quit until he executed it. It'd be so easy to rationalize not following through with shit like "oh it wouldn't ne that great anyways" or "oh, no I think shot 345,658 was 'good enough' ". But he didn't do that, and I can seruously appreciate that kind of dedication in a field where its all about that perfect moment.

>>2710540
Bird poster here, I totally agree with you. It is sad it had to be actually explained.

>>2710455
It's a nice shot, but I wonder why it took so much time and so many attempts to get right.

Wasn't there any technology that could have helped the guy do it much faster?

>>2710545
I disagree

>>2710545
>Wasn't there any technology that could have helped the guy do it much faster?

Such as?

The light, the reflection, and the overall timing are what's key here. The light would have been very hard to replicate in post production of a RAW image that it just makes more sense to get it right in the camera. Same goes for the reflection and timing, though maybe to a lesser extent.

>Not waiting for 120fps 4K video
>not just pulling the best frame out of clip
Job done in 2 days

>>2710545
Set your mind on a single kind of shot, prepare your gear and go out into the forest and shoot. We will see how much time and shots you need for your intended shot.

Google "Máté Bence", he is building birdwatching sites with double beds, kitchen and everything and even with all those buildings he has to shoot 100000-400000 shots to get one right. Wildlife photography is hard.

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>>2710555
This guys face looks too small for his head

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>>2710557
This guy accomplished more on his own 'till he was 25 then you ever will.
Judging from your comments you are a jealous bitter fag who is afraid to go outside. I bet you only shoot chinese cartoon figurines.

>>2710514
>>2710516
>>2710518
>>2710519
these are always fun to look at

>>2710563
Thanks.
I had even less to prepare than for the backyard snapshots, just point the camera and squeeze the shutter.

>>2710555
> Set your mind on a single kind of shot, prepare your gear and go out into the forest and shoot. We will see how much time and shots you need for your intended shot.
Well, I guess that could experimentally answer my question.

But I guess I wonder if you couldn't get this kind of shot with camera arrays and laser triggers, or by employing computer triggering with detection patterns (set up a background which -when it gets disturbed significantly by something bird-sized or larger- fires cameras in burst mode), or even just by using video frames, or something like that.

>>2710560

holy fuck, butthurt? did this guy rape your mom's kingfisher or shit?

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>Bird thread
I took this one like 2 years ago, but its still one of my favorites. I was using an ultra wide and I had to get so close the bird hit me in the head with its wings on takeoff.

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>>2710560
What the fuck are you on about mate?

>This guy accomplished more on his own 'till he was 25 then you ever will.
Good on him. I have no fucking clue as to why you mentioned this though, I thought the guys face was a little odd, I didn't say shit about his career.

>Judging from your comments you are a jealous bitter fag
And judging by your comment, it appears you like to make assumptions and direct your hate filled spiel to the wrong fucking person. This >>2710460 is the only other comment I've made in this thread, so calm down you agro cunt

>>2710575
Sorry about size, literally realized i didn't resize as I hit post.

>>2710568
Your theory is based on very shallow and vague, sometimes false theoretical knowledge on photography and even less knowledge on wildlife.
In a short answer it is false and bound to get you into huge expenses with little or no results.
You have to get out there, walk and sit through the entire time to find your subject without spooking it, point your camera in the right direction and nail the focus and the exact time to get your shot. Good AF systems and accurate lenses can help you but only so much. Máté Bence started with a Zenit film SLR and Tair 300 lens when he was 12, ecouraged by family and his biology teacher.
You don't need modern technology to make stunning photos, knowing how to use what you have means a lot more. Most of wildlife shooting is about knowing your subjects, what they do, how they think and anticipating what they will do in the next moment.
You can see a lot of wildlife photos on flickr made with old manual lenses recently. Technology can only make your work a bit more comfortable.
The long answer would take a couple more years.

>>2710578
Sounds far more theoretical than my question is.

Why *exactly* wouldn't it work to set up / point an array of cameras where you "think" the animals will do something and trigger it for a shitload of photos once it then does it (well, I think image recognition software isn't clever enough to directly detect this yet, so it'd presumably fire more like when it "gets there" - when your kingfisher dives, or your bird enters / leaves his nest, or whatever).

>>2710557
>heh heh heh heh heheh he heheh heh
>Heheheh hey butthead
>heheheh
>boobs
>heheheheheheheh heh heheheh

>>2710582
Because the world is very big and most animals are small. You simply can't set up enough cameras, or the forest becomes a forest of cameras. Also animals will know a human was around and will avoid the are for a long time. Most animals are intelligent and will see the cameras and will avoid the reflections of the lenses meaning they will be outside of your cameras angle.
You have to have the most control on the environment hence you have to go out there and make the shot yourself.

>>2710583

what are you mad at now, you cocksucker?

>>2710585
Calm down friendo, it's a Beavis and Butthead reference

>>2710587

k m8, its all cool

>>2710587
Calm down retard, it is the photography board.
What you are looking for is here >>>/b/

>>2710590
Oh boo-fucking-hoo, the joke was related to a posted photo. Unloosen your butthole, you whingy cunt.

>>2710455
Is that shot with a 70-200mm f2.8?

>>2710593
How about instead making shitty jokes you use your fucking empty head for once and look at the Exif. The photo was made with 300mm focal length, 450mm equivalent. Everyones head looks like this because of compression and perspective distortion. This is why you make portraits with 85mm or equivalent instead of long ass telephotos.
Retard.

>>2710594
I'd guess it was made with a tele prime, 300mm or 400mm, or even 500mm. I could be wrong but these are the usual focal lengths for wildlife.
If you have a 70-200/2.8, just use a 2x converter and you are set up for shooting birds.

>>2710595
How about instead of being such a sad cunt, you lighten the fuck up and not take every petty little comment on the internet so deadly serious. Man you're one pathetic faggot.

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>>2710596
Does not look like a prime from the article (if thats the setup he took that picture with).

>>2710595
What are you taking about? Long telephotos are fine for portraits.

>>2710598
>What are you taking about? Long telephotos are fine for portraits.

Nah, they often have too much compression and your subject ends up looking unnaturally flat.

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>>2710600
Never seen or noticed anyone get flatter above 85mm.

>>2710610
You clearly lack eyesight and perception because your image proves otherwise. All the shots above 105mm look flat and the perspective distortion is clearly visible.
It is best if you give up photography entirely.

>>2710610

You can see it in that fucking photo you posted.

>>2710610
Some people don't like the realistic look without distortion for some reason, probably they're just kinda accustomed to 35-100mm or whatever.

Not getting it myself, 135-350mm clearly look the most normal to me.

>>2710460
this

Fuck the haters - this is really something special. Few people understand the patience required to do this, and it's admirable and crazy all at once.

This represents some serious dedication...a triumph of the will. I wonder how many of you understand what this means...

>>2710673
Apparently very little. I wonder how many of the posters from this thread are actually shooting photos.

Loving reading all the jealous dickheads in this thread. Go out and try and get a similar shot, let alone a better one. Just appreciate that this guy nailed it.

>>2710568
>But I guess I wonder if you couldn't get this kind of shot with camera arrays and laser triggers, or by employing computer triggering with detection patterns

You could wonder, you'd still be really wrong though.

Its literally 2015 and i cant believe that with all technology available these days this is the best he could come up with. The merit isnt in the photo, is in the process according to yall, which is very sad.

>>2710688

I don't think that is a terribly good photo. It's cool he wanted to take that photo and eventually managed to take it, but it still isn't that good. The photographer has much better photos of the same birds.

>>2710689
I assume you have some examples where this approach -done in some sophistication- failed that I could read about, then?

>>2710464
cropping is for farmers

>>2710622

It's probably because you only interact with people from 200 feet away.

>720,000 Attempts

Guess he should have used a mirrorless with a proper fps count.

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I fucking hate these hipsters and their copyright, thinking they can put shit on the internet and not have it pirated. Took me 15 minutes to copypaste printscreen this shit together off of flickr. What are these fagtrons going to do when everyone gets 4k screens and copy pasting is not required, only printscreen?

>>2710749
>copying all the hideous artifacts
It's like you have no standards

>>2710751
I'm really new to this. Are you telling me there is a way to get rid of the graininess?

Very impressive feat, very mediocre photograph.

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>>2710749

Did anyone think we (and the media) only got the mediocre simpleton cut? The juicy stuff must be on his private stash.
The AA filter grain is clearly visible, there must be more to this shot that we are allowed to see.

>>2710752
I think the graininess comes from needing a high ISO so he could have a fast shutter.

>>2710760
Still the graininess is huge, it must be a small crop from the original shot.

>>2710455

wow i have a way better keeper ration than this guy

also this is a good reminder that you can spend a lot of time doing something and people won't really give a shit about it

>>2710673

great movie

>>2710792
Nice, what lens did you use?

>>2710749
>Took me 15 minutes to copypaste printscreen this shit together off of flickr.
Doing it wrong.

>>2710752
>>2710764
It's not grain, it's noise. It could be processed out but it looks like sharpening was applied which enhanced the noise.

Here's an example of noise reduction with sharpening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-V8QPcKagw

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>>2710749
You realize if the image is visible on a website you can simply just find the direct link to it and save it, right? Preventing right clicking on an image just stops the ignorant folks like you.

In Firefox: Right Click -> Inspect Element, or Right Click -> View Page Info -> Media

>>2710702
Said no photographer ever.

Or are you saying hcb was wrong?

>>2711006
Didn't HCB go out of his way to not crop and actually print his photos with surrounding film edge to prove it? I think it was one of Magnum's principles as well.

>>2711006

I think you've misheard or misunderstood this, HCB aimed to do as much as possible in camera, he took little part in the printing process and believed what he saw through the viewfinder was the final composition.

I agree with this to a point, you can definitely take cropping too far on a high res digital file to the point where you start to lose the lens characteristics (not sure if that makes sense?) But, yeah, sometimes you have to crop a little here and there to tidy up the composition as I'm not as talented as HCB.

>>2710560
speak for yourself we have houses and wives and cars. you and this guy prolly make like 45 year lel.

>>2711465
Says the one who didn't post a single photo.

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Two wet owls at the campus

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>>2712249

ALL THAT GUY DID WAS POST A SINGLE PHOTO

>>2712280
Yes, not even his own photo.
It's like people not doing actual photography come to a photography related forum and tell people they suck.

>>2712249
where's your photo in this thread?

>confirmed for 45k a year and a bitter fag about it

>>2712375

>Attacking income

You look pretty stupid doing that when compared to... oh, I dunno, millions of people worldwide.

>>2710455

Reminds me of trying to take the perfect Moltres shot in Pokemon Snap

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>Preventing right clicking on an image just stops the ignorant folks like you.
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>>2712387
damn so a lot less than 45 based on your response. still no photo to post?

>>2712702
Still mad

>>2711465
>>2712375
>>2712702

To me, this comment on income and your subsequent responses are really strange. In my circle of friends your personal income is seen as quite a crass thing to discuss, and unthinkable as something to ridicule a person for. I have no idea what any of my friends earn.

I'm not having a dig at you, just interested in your point of view. What does yearly income measure to you? Is this an American thing?

>>2712504
I didn't know that, thanks.

>>2712765
Not that guy, but I can tell you it is a very east european thing to know and compare incomes. Marginally higher income people usually shit on the others.
This is entirely my experience, dude with the income issue might be an east european, or has a strong cultural heritage (inbreeding defect).

>>2710595
Fuck off Sugar, you weak cunt. Ban evasion results in more ban.

>>2710462
kek

>>2712702

I made that comment without my trip on.

Again: It is a proxy argument that is pathetic unless you're Warren Buffett.

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>>2710455
>They...are all... perfect

>>2710455
he probably could have done it in half the time if he used a 1DX

>>2710595
>Everyones head looks like this because of compression and perspective distortion.

>>2710557
*Looks back*

>>2710610
*See this*

Nah nigga he got a small face, just like foto girl has a hella large forehead.

>>2712765
here it doesn't make sense to say "I don't know what my friends make." like no one has ever asked exactly how much someone makes; we know from how much we see them spend or if they're saving up for a house or just got married etc. maybe everyone in your country has the same stuff or something but it's pretty obvious here how much dough someone has. like me and my peers are all yuppies in a big city with cars and fiances and apartments downtown and shit average people here just can't afford. do they not have like classes in your country?