Axe thread vol. 2

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>>981557
>Axe thread vol. 2
>vol. 2
god you must be a newfag. like, really new. a mere hours old at most.

also, nice axe. is it Europæn?

>>981559
yes it's swiss
thanks for the nice words

I really gotta get to some market and find myself an old axe head to polish up and put a handle on.

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>>981596
yes, you do anon. a new weekend is upon us, less talk more do!

>>981567
I would hate using that handle for so many reasons

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>>981612
i would love using that handle

btw new axes: true temper vulcan and rinaldi 3.5kg maul

>>981557
Those are some cool axes.

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>>981637
Different strokes. My dad was a smart feller when I was growing up and always made his own forward bent handles, so thats what I grew up getting the feel for. Pic related, last handle he ever made for me

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>>981557
This is the only thing I can jack off to anymore

>>981650
Where do you think the term "lumberjack" came from?

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>>981649
axes from the alps generally have a gentle curve backwards and then forward, but the cutting edge is also tilted forward. german and eastern europe have a straight handle with a bulky section under the head
you don't have to overcomplicate things tho, i split that maul's handle from a 1m black locust round and just arranged it to follow the grain, it is slightly curved forward. i prefer a straight handle because i can grip it however i want

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>>981653

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Thinking of getting this one for general /out/ use.

Played around with it for a quick bit in the store. Its properly balanced and the factory grind looks ready to go - just needs a sharpen.

3 1/2lbs is the only size they make.

I'm likely going to buy it, but should I?

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My axe

>>981567
That is one of the worst axes I've ever seen.

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>>981708
but it doesn't have a hammer on it
why would you need two edges for the outdoors, i use my double bit axe one side for chopping wood the other for roots

>>981807
you mean, one of the best. it's the axe used in many italian and german lumberjack competitions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FM6ZdU63HY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2GJkaPp60Y

pic: two pickaroons i made this winter

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Just got myself a new tool steel mousehawk for trail use. Going to make a new possibles bag with an intergrated sheath for it.

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I'm going to save you guys time and post my axe as the ugliest axe in this thread. The head was found in a field and I cleaned the rust off and started using it. I've chopped probably 15 plus cords of wood with it so far.

I've thought of upgrading to a better axe but haven't yet.

>>981839
Very nice pickaroons. Do you make any froes?

>>981839
Which axe has a hammer?

I plan to have one side for general use, and the other to be thinned out and scary sharp.

3 1/2lbs is too light for "work".
This will be for fun only.

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>>981711
That's a mighty fine spade, mind if I give you a drawhandle in exchange for it?

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How are Wetterlings?

Pic related.

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I am at work so I don't have a pic, but gotta show some husqy love

>>981917
(Meaning I don't have a pic of my own axe rn)

>>981903
Horrifically overpriced even if you are set on purchasing a brand new axe even though there are countless old used axes out there that are superior to modern axes after 10 mins sharpening.

>>981839
Are you in a lumberjack competition?

>>981903
There are many good axes you can buy for less but they will need to be reprofiled and sharpened.

The biggest difference is Wetterlings can be put to use straight out of the box. That is why the price is higher.

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Just got this beaut.

My first real axe.

Hültafors hunters axe.

>>981857
nope but i'm gonna make a froe when i can, i'm sure it will make splitting rounds much easier when i'm making a handle

>>982005
no i'm not but i follow them. i also worked with a guy in serbia who competes in them, he's one of the best sawyers i've seen so far

>>982045
gratz, i have a husqvarna carpenter's axe and it's a very nice tool. if i'm not wrong hultafors makes the husqvarna axes and they look really similar. nice sheath too

>>981857
It's a nice looking axe aside from the chewed up handle, i just thought the shadow was the head and thought it had some weird cut-off poll.

>>982045
Hultafors axes are pretty great aside from the huge, thick handles.

Let me axe you a question.
What are the downsizes of an axe with metal handle, think of a "full tang" axe, made of a single piece of steel?

>>982435
This one's a smaller axe, so I find it the ideal size for my hand.

>>982543
Weight
Also it wont quell vibration nearly as well.

>>981854
Cute. Just for light camp chores?

>>981857
I have a boner for pitting thats been cleaned

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Only axe I have.

>>982543
Look up "vibration white finger", that's why. Even Estwing axes have those problems.

>>982791
Not a bad choice, is that the Wildlife Hatchet?

>>981903
They're pretty damn good, of course to me they're worth the money since i can afford them relatively easily, but for someone that might have issues funding the purchase of one, they'll say it's overpriced.

>>981857
Look up Weiderfan's video on the Rooster sharpening method and try to polish the blade up a bit that way, it'll make it look real pretty.

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My grandfather's old Billnäs

>>982882
What's the hole in the handle for?

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>>982920
it's a holder for batonning kindling

>>982837
Yes it is, I was pretty amazed at how much it can actually do for its size

>>982933
It might actually function pretty well for breaking small sticks though.

>>982933
>>983077

you are the worst

Hew, newbie to /out/ stuff here, what kind of axe should i get for camping/innawoodsing? Should I get a hatchet or axe?

>>982933
lol

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>>982882
I've always wanted one of those, but never seen them for sale outside Finland.

>>981708
Went over to the store and got this today.
They had two left. Both were decent but neither perfect.

The handles are roughly finished, and then varnished so they will need to be smoothed down and oiled.

The grind is correct. Much better than snything else at the hardware store.
The edge just needs finishing.

On one side of the bit, the cutting edge is almost straight, whilst the opposite end has a curve. Not sure if this is a trait of the pattern or just on the Truper model.
Both store models had it.

The handle isn't very long, but it goes with the weight of the head. If I rest the butt under my arm I can palm the head easily.
Can be used both one and two handed.

Does anyone else still make a double bit?

They also had pic related - in sizes up to 4 1/2 lbs.
I should have bought one too, but I wasn't sure of the blister causing rubber device on the handle.
And, at that point I had wasted almost 3 hours comparing axes, tape measures and paintbrushes.

>>981890
every single bit axe has a poll that can be used to hammer on stuff, if needed. can't do that with a double bit

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>>982847
I got around to watching the Rooster sharpening vid. I think I'll do that now that I know about it, thanks.

Do crosscut saws fit in an axe thread? I've been in the process of trying to restore one.

>>983958
yeah no point making another thread for saws only
this is more like "forestry hand tools" than specifically axe thread

how are you going to proceed with the saw?

>>983964
Yeah, so far I have soaked the whole saw in apple cider vinegar to remove the rust. Which actually worked great. I also did some light sanding where the rust was too much.

It still can cut ok but it really needs to be sharpened but I'm not sure how exactly without sending it off somewhere. I may try to dremel it.

>>983972
don't use a dremel you will overheat the points
you should use files but it's a little complicated, there are good guides on the internet about crosscut saw sharpening (wranglerstar is not one of them)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrYsFlx3OSY

>>983986
Thanks. I only paid $10 for it but I'd hate to mess with the temper of the teeth.

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Found this Craftsman carpenters hatchet floating around the house. Since it weighs a full pound less than my normal forest axe, I want to clean it up and throw it in with my backpacking gear.

I don't want to take the patina off, and the steel only has a few rust pock-marks, so I don't want to go nuts scrubbing or acid bathing. Whats the best way to just maintain it?

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>>984171
Etching for id

>>984171

Get a stone and sharpen that bad boy!

>>984171
You can leave it as it is if you wish.

To keep it from rusting more, you should clean it first. Good dish soap and a stiff bridtle nylon brush will work.
So will steel wool and light pressure.

Then wipe it dry.

To prevent from rusting, just rub some Boiled Linseed Oil on it.

Boiled Linseed Oil takes long time to dry.
So apply a very light coat before putting the tool away for the night.

Or for long-term storage, mix the Oil with paint thinner to help it evaporate then apply a nice coat using a paintbrush.
It will varden into a varnish.

>>983857

For very light use, you can use the side of a double bit. Heavy use will deform the eye of a single bit too.
It's just easier to carry a real hammer most of the time.

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>>984402
TY

>>984171

step 1: sharpen it

step 2: use it

using it = having it out = you naturally stay on top of any rusting/pitting

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>>984732
streets ahead of you man.
I was just curious because I wouldn't think to bring a steel shank hatchet /out/, but it's lighter than my wood handled axe.
I have an average number of chromosomes, so I'm not going to be rubbing the shoulder and handle of the hatchet against shit while I baton firewood.

>>982711
>Cute. Just for light camp chores?
Pretty much. Useful little pack-piece. If I really need to do something heavy and don't have a full sized, its tough enough to use like froe style.

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Made this axe a little while ago.

hey, does anyone have a recommendation for good quality axe handles? I've got a axe head I'm working on restoring for the first time, and need something to put it on.

>>985854
White ash, before it's gone. Buy billets in bulk

>>982933
kek

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Picked up one of these from Sportsmans guide for something like 16$. An amazing hatchet for the money, they are so old that the handles have shrunk a bit so the heads are loose. Just have to pop out the old wedge and put a new one in, clean off all the storage grease and they are good as new. Has a 5 5/8in cutting edge and a 15 1/2 inch handle, if they ever get them back in stock I'd buy a couple more.

>>981854
Hey, aren't you the same guy from the /tg/ arms and armors threads? If so hella rad dude.

>>986403
I saw these on there and before I could buy one they sold out. They looked pretty awesome. I bought the Swiss hatched off there for the hell of it.

>>986722
Ah bummer, I grabbed one of these and one of the swiss ones you are talking about. The swiss one is decent, this one blows it away completely though. You should keep an eye out and grab one if they ever become available again.

>>986403
Whats so great about it? Its the standard Herman pattern. You find them everywhere.

>>986888
it's not about the pattern it's about the quality of the steel, forging and heat treatment

>>986900
I've never used an axe and thought "wow, I wish this had a better heat treat".

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>>986888
It's basically a Rheinland hatchet which costs $125 for $16.

>>986950
i did many times
because if the axe is heat treated poorly or has been overheated when sharpening it will lose its hardness and become blunt very fast

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Any Wranglerstar fans?

https://www.youtube.com/user/wranglerstar/search?query=axe

>>987521
fuck off

>>987521
wraglercuck is a fuckboi. dont get me started on this idiot. I was a long time watcher, but unsubscribed about a year ago when the titles got real bad and after i realized he doesnt know what hes doing watching one particular tree felling string of vids. My favorites of his were his ram pump vids. I will give it to him that he knows axes, but that about the limit of his true expertise. Hes not a lumberjack or a farmer or anything that he tries to portray himself as. hes no more than a general handyman. He used to sell jeep parts second hand on Ebay back in like 05 but quit his jeep parts business after ripping off to many people. If i recall he wasnt known for good prices either. Kinda proves to me he is only in it for the money. Maybe i could forgive him and return to watching if he focused his energy on fewer videos with better concise subject matter featuring truthful titles. But for now he then he is just a whore to the system of youtube.

as a side note i think its stupid that he tries to hide his wifes name, given that his address and personal info is available with a quick google.

>>987521
He wears pants, coats, and boots that cost 500$ each. He uses cutsom made axes that cost an ungodly amount of money. He also uses all kinds of expensive saws, spokeshaves, planes, hammers etc. Plus he uses boiled linseed oil because he's retarded. His channel is like one of those "Im a millionaire watch me buy things that you cant afford and pretend im like you" type reality shows.

Fuck him, I stopped watching his videos a long time ago because a) He doesnt know when to shut up b) he doesnt know much about anything c) He milks youtube for money (clickbait titles, long video lengths, stretching out a 5 min video into a 3 part series of 15 minute videos etc).

There is only a handfull of youtubers based around homesteading, woodworking, tools etc that I watch anymore; and each of them have a few thousand subs. Too many people talking too much about things they know nothing about.

>>987695
Wranglerstar is the cancer of youtube. No real outdoorsman spends half his time editing vids and playing with drones.

Who u watch? I like Jack Spirko and my guilty pleasure is Pure Living for life. I watch then for lulz because of how stupid they are and ridiculous their lives are.
>be pure living for life
>like the homesteading meme, think we should try dat ish
>move to rural idaho
>buy north facing property that is entirely on a steep unworkable grade with rocky clay ground and no soil
>no well or hookups, have to haul water from local car wash
>No house yet, gotta live in camper trailer inside a makeshift barn for 2 years
>spend entire second summer building deck and cedar, wood-fired hot tub
>make absolutely zero progress on building a home in 2 years
>no sign of garden or livestock
>"I know what this homestead needs, I should take private pilot flying lessons"
>only source of revenue is YouTube and blog
I guess they are in it for the long haul but idk if you can call what they are doing at the moment homsteading. Sure is entertaining though

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>>987758
I've been a follower of skillcult for a while now. I came across him when I was looking into buying a husqvarna hatchet, after watching his review i spent the next week shaving and sanding my axe handle down to about an inch in diameter. Probably saved me from developing arthreitis or something. Here a link to that: https://youtu.be/dK6Ad0uoVqw

European kitchen is really good for cooking, and shes started making vlogs now which is interesting. Came across her from Thuleanperspective who I already knew from Burzum, and subscribed because he had a bunch of videos on survivalism. He has since deleted a bunch of them, but they have been uploaded elsewhere. Thewildnorth is also a great guy, lots of stuff about skinning to be found there.

There is also a whole bunch of old scandinavian videos sprawled about on youtube which I've found about cabin building, spoon making, clogs, etc and I couldnt understand anytjing they are saying but it all makes alot of sense kind of like primitive technology.

It really suck though because of people like wranglerstar, dave canterbury, those 100 knife collecting goobers that have a billion videos about pocket knives, they all muck up the site with misinformation and terrible advice and now we have a bunch of people running around in the woods battoning logs and building half assed shelters bound with paracord. I like the idea of a simpler life but these people turn it into a consumerist hobby and it bugs me.

>>987809
You're shit talkin guys like cutlerylover right? Lmao I used to watch him when he was trying to break into the pipe smoking vid genre. I really like thewildnorth too, and those scandavanvian vids are great. I really love the Dick proenneke vids that used to play on PBS, they flost arounder too. I spend all of my Internet time on 4chin and youtube so there's a lot of people I follow. About half the channels I watch are /out/ or thru hiking related but the rest are random here and there types like foodwishes, H3H3, mighty car mods, Mantic59, how to make everything. Pretty big spread lol.

>>987557
I remember him saying in a video how he'd rather keep his good name and reputation at the price of fewer subs, views and money, but in his video where he defends his clickbait he says that he does it so he can make money to buy food for his family. So he's lying in 2 ways, first is his whole samaritan act of not selling out and him being an off-grid, self-reliant homesteader, he's so off the grid, most of his food comes from the store.

>>987695
Who do you watch? May i recommend Steven Edholm from Skillcult, his axe videos (which are very educated and well done) are the only ones i watch since i'm not into the whole homesteader thing, but if they're the same quality as his axe videos, they're pretty damn good.

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Sucks they went out of business, I love my Hunter's Hatchet.

>>988059
they didn't go out of business, GB bought them
i suppose they'll continue to produce axes just like before

>>988045
mrs wranglestar would rather go running around the property like a hippie and browse the internet instead of doing actual gardening and mr. wranglerstar is a lazy cunt that used to change jobs monthly and has no real work predisposition
he seems a decent mechanic but he's a failure at most things he attempts on the channel

>>988149
>wranglerstar is a lazy cunt that used to change jobs monthly
Holy shit really?

>>988157
yes in his older videos he talks how before homesteading he was always in a financial mess and was always in debt and couldn't keep a job
i remember one video in which he talks about how he was cutting some wood and he was too lazy to pick up the tools after him and left them in the woods and went home, then it started raining and he spent the whole night at the window thinking about how much an idiot he is

>>988157
Yeah nobody just starts youtube full time when they have a secure job, decent pay, 401k, health and dental, unless they are retiring or something. Cody is an attention deficit asshole and a know-it-all its no wonder he couldnt keep a job. God people will trust anyone who speaks these days and just assume Cody knows what he's talking about blindly. Its same reason those fake prank channels are popular, and the reason fake news exists, people are too lazy and stupid to step back and ask the implications of what they are viewing. Dudes 100% a hipster and a hack.

>>987557
https://www.bizapedia.com/wa/wranglerstar-llc.html

lol his full name, wifes name and address are registered on his LLC. His sons name is Jack. He lives an hr and a half from portland in WA, but his old address is on his Jeep recyclers LLC and is in OR. His phone number is (509) 493-3365, Dude plays like hes protecting his family by not saying his wifes names on his YT channel or their location but its totally readily available. What an idiot.

>>988049
Yeah Ive watched stevens videos for some time now, refer to my other post here: >>987809

>>985833
I like it. Did you polish the head yourself?

>>988160
>>988165
You know what's funny? He makes these videos on how to hang an axe "perfectly" with his elaborate technique, yet in one of his videos where he's fondling one of his Gränsfors axes, he let's slip that most all of his axes come loose in around a year or so. Why is it that my cheap Husqy axe has stayed perfectly hung for 2 years despite the crappy quality they seem to have, yet most axes hung by this genius, expert get loose in a year?

>>988292
I honestly feel bad for Jack, i mean having a dad like Cody brainwashing you with his nutjob religious mumbo-jumbo?

>>988833
every new axe handle eventually comes loose if it stays outdoors a lot of time and it is normal until the wood stabilizes
the best way to hang them is to let the handle protrude from the top of the head, and to put an iron wedge or two without hammering all the way in so when the handle comes loose you can tighten it further

but wranglerstar is something else, i remember a video of him shapin an axe handle for 10 hours (he said it took him 10 hours)
wtf are you doing with an axe handle for 10 hours?

>>989585
I get that, but his Gransfors ax didn't have handle shrinkage, none of my axes had handles shrink, but whenever he's the one that makes a handle, it comes loose. My theory is that the wood he buys is a bit too high in moisture and he doesn't leave it to dry a little bit over a few days by a warm and dry place.

>>989585
if the dude can sit in his "workshop" and talk to a camera for 10 hrs, its no surprise he could fuck off sharpening a single edge for 10 hrs. he's not a particularly efficient or productive man, unless you count his sheer volume of content as productivity.

im glad this has become a wranglerstar h8 thread, i have wanted to shit on him for so long with no good outlet.

>>989695
Vent it out anon, it's not healthy to hold in anger. Let it all out.

>>989695
stupid fucking wranglerstar

>>989695
i mean hes just as bad as Axe Men on TV.

which by the way: Reality educational shows like that have killed TV.
I dont even watch TV anymore accept for NFL in the fall. axe men, swamp people, mountain men, american pickers, duck dynasty, gold rush, ice road tuckers, dual survival, all of em, garbage. every single one is shit. none have any value. They all have a super fake sense of suspense and some artificial deadline built into each episode that removes any educational or technical value the shows might have had in its infancy. idk how any one can legitimately watch that garbage.


wranglerstar overuses the word proper, and its a clear sign hes a man of the internet age since the way he uses it isnt part of an american dialect or even his regional dialect. its a pretty unamerican to draw out and put emphasis on the word *proper*"proper" *pause* the way he does.

>proper

if you watch his vids, just listen.
u'll see.

>>990244
yes his proper gets on my nerves too

also most things he does are not actually properly done

>>988628
Thanks! I made the whole thing actually. Here's a video of it https://youtu.be/ksDvJI3wav8

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>>989695
As a blacksmith (and just a hobbyist too) this video of his rustled my jimjams. It would be fine if he was more upfront about the fact that he doesn't know what the hell he's doing and is just learning a new skill, but taking 10 minutes to punch a few off center holes then titling it something like "LOST SKILLS ALL GUYS SHOULD MASTER!!!" and editing it like some pretentious professional video is stupid.
>this triggers the blacksmith

https://youtu.be/BVyucB5wQ3Y

>>987521
i refuse to watch any of his vids on the basis of protest cause every view earns him another fraction of a shekel.

>>990265
That's awesome. Great work

>>990265
excellent work anon. truly. subbed to your channel, your work is outstanding.

>>990265
>>990294
these two videos paralleled show perfectly why you should never watch or listen to another wranglerfuck video ever again. both about 10 minutes videos, both very similar cinematic style but its very, very clear who the actual craftsman is, and who the vain shill begging for clicks is. also worth pointing out the shill video is just barely over 10 mins long so that he can squeeze out more ad money, but Jacobsen's is under 10 minutes. good work man keep it up.

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>>990482
I made both those posts.
>posting before finishing reading the thread then needing to post something else
Thanks anon, I'm glad you like my videos! There are plenty of people on youtube with good quality videos who make quality content that we can dispense with clickbait or the hundredth video on an overpriced axe.

pic related to keep on topic of the thread- I made this with a friend of mine.

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>>990553
excellent forging but why do you always put american style handles on those viking reproductions?
it's bulky and ugly compared to this

>>990553
>>990745
I dunno man, i kinda like the American style handle on the that ax. 10/10 would buy.

>>990265
Very cool. You're work is very impressive.

>>981557

the transition from cheek to lug looks like it'd be a problem on those for wood work, but I figure they're for throwing?

>>990745
To be a little more comfortable for use. The straight tapered shaft isn't that conducive to chopping wood.
I'm not sure that all viking axes had straight tapered shafts too. The woodworking/ wood cutting axes may have had contoured handles (though maybe not just like the modern American style handle)

>>990875
it would be a problem for splitting but not for woodworking
those axes are for chopping wood in timbersports

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I went camping with my nicely fixed up hatchet. This is before

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This is after. Don't let your friends throw your hatchet. Lesson learned.

>>991746
I originally binded it with paracord to stop the handle from continually splitting. That didn't work so I had to use duct tape for the weekend

>>989695
On that topic, his logging videos are absolute cancer, the only ear-pro he wears are ear plugs which are not nearly enough, especially considering the only hear-pro that blocks out enough noise is the Peltor Optime III, he also wears boots with no steel toe and he just wears an old ass helmet that has crappy structural integrity.

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What do you guys think of axes made by Mirko Günther?
http://www.damastklinge.de/damastklinge_texte/de_beilef.htm

>>991780
The handle looks retardedly thick.

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>>982181
>husqvarna carpenter's axe

Looking at getting one of these too. How much does the head weigh? I can't find any reliable info and Husky only lists the total weight.

Do you use it for carpentry? I wonder if adding a slight curve to the edge would make it work alright for felling and splitting too.

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>>986453
Among other things, yes.

Started some file work. Feels good getting paid to sit under a tree, drink cider and tell tourists about file work and etching.

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>>991780
I like this one.

The prices aren't that bad either.

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>>991910
yes i use it for carpentry, i made a straight handle for it and sharpened it asymmetrically so that the edge is flatter on the right side
i don't know about the weight, i think it's about 1kg?

it's great quality but it's nowhere as carefully made as a gb. the grinding is rough, the poll is roughly forged and not even ground flat. i've read they're often hung out of alignment or the head is loose out of the box or soon thereafter

>>992175
Ugliest shit I've ever seen

>>992222
Praise me

>>992204
what ax is pic related reviewing? dude sites wranglerstar video as if he is a credible source of ax info LMAO.

>>992312
it's the axe we are talking about, husqvarna carpenter's axe

https://www.amazon.com/Husqvarna-Carpenter-Axe-Carpenters/product-reviews/B004SN1HGQ/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=avp_only_reviews

>>991910
I'd say it's a kilo, it is noticeably heavier than the Husqy forest ax.

>>991780
Aside from the horribly t h i c c handle, it looks like a decent hatchet, not a bad price either.

>>992222
WUUUTT

>>991935
What kind of chisel are you using?

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>>992222
???

>>992332
>file work
>chisel

>>992221
No.

>>991910
I have the hultafors (classic) one, and its way better than the husky. It has a slightly convexed scandi grind while the husky is a really roughly done and you'd need alot of filing to get it good for carving. And I hear the poll on the usky isnt flat which sucks because I use it for hammering wooden wedges and using a wooden mallet on the back to split wood blanks. Another big problem with the husky is the handle, like all of their axes they are all too thick and oddly shaped, and a curved handle for a carpentry axe is stupid and becomes a pain.

>>992222
What is this sorcery?

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>>992204
>>992385
Thanks for the info guys; I had not heard about those quality issues. I will probably still get one of the Husqvarna axes although I was eyeballing the Hults Bruk Tibro carpenter's axe.

I'm helping my neighbor with a timber framing project, building a sauna, and it's a great excuse to get a new axe. Agreed about the curved handle though, I will probably re-hang on a straight haft. Any axe I need to re-handle gets a straight or much straighter haft, I like them better.

Would you keep the handle length or make it shorter? 50cm seems like an akward in-between size, too short for 2 hands and too long for one.

>>990553
damn dude, pretty cool.

>>993219
Get a 45-35, i like 40. But the 50 is nice as it can act as a counterweight of sorts.

>>993219
50 is fine for me

>>993294
It's an odd length for chopping two handed.

>>982920
>Hultafors axes
is a fingerbox for when you're in the woods

>>993219
If you do plan on re hanging it check the eye size first, because I have heard that the eyes on husqvarnas are more axe sized, and require an oversized handle shoulder to be hung. My hultafors eye is exactly 1" by .8" if you need a reference.

About the size of the handle, I like the 20" since i can use both hands easily (I have done some rough log hewing with it and it handles well like that) and with one hand the handle isnt too long as to bump into things or offset the balance (It is balanced right at the shoulder too). But if you prefer a shorter handle something about 15" would be good aswell, but too short narrows your options of handling.

>>990265
noice mate earned my sub

>>984174
Clean It up using steel wool gently

Sharpen it

Use it regularly and oil it often I like this stuff called Blueline drywall tool lubricant

Try to not use leather covers for the edge because it could build up moisture and create rust pockets between /out/ings

>>993640
Good to know. I'll probably make my own handle though so eye size isn't as much of an issue.

I'd not go shorter than 16"/40cm given the weight of the head; one needs some counterbalance. I have a 3lb Collins hewing hatchet on a 12" handle (not my choice) and it's heavy.

I'll try the stock handle length on for size. Sometimes little changes make a big difference.

>>984171
>Clean It up using steel wool gently
Ballistol, for the spray just spray it on, leave it overnight or for a few hours and gently wipe it off with a paper towel or cloth, can't say much about the oil but i hear it works great as well. Just use the spray in an open area since it's a really long lasting and powerful smell, but it does smell a bit like conifers.

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>>981917
I'm with ya, bro. I've got the exact same axe. Here's an action shot.

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>>995656
The only complaint with this axe is the sheath it comes with. But if you're a bit crafty, making a sheath can be a really fun project. Here's how I did.

>>995659
I've got plenty issues with it, the handle is too thick and often comes lacquered, the sheath is crap and the grind tends to come pretty awful.

>>982791
Looks like a good lightweight axe. What brand is it?

I'm purchasing my first axe soon and can use suggestions for a lightweight one similar to yours. Any tips?

How do I sharpen my axe? I'm a city fag with no tools whosoever.

>>982791
>only axe i have
>costs more than a truckload of axes

Everyone keeps complaining about extra thick handles on certain axes.

But why is this such a problem? Just shave it down to suit your hands.

>>996610
I know; I modify (or make) my handles to suit my needs. It's not that big a deal, and you get it just the way you want.

Good look at axe handles, plus qt homesteading girl.
http://axeconnected.blogspot.com/2011/02/devolution-of-axe-handles.html

>>996416
Plenty of videos on youtube and how-to guides on google.

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Axe noob looking to buy his first hatchet. Needing it for camp duties, mainly splitting small logs. Also, at some point I'm going to be felling some smallish tress (maybe 15-20cm diameter) but I also have a Bahco Laplander folding saw to help with this task. Was considering either the Gransfors Bruk Wildlife/Small hatchet (What's the difference between the two?) or the Wetterlings Wilderness hatchet. Thoughts? Any better alternative suggestions?

>>996416
Basically the same way you sharpen a knife, but with a file instead of a stone.
For now, just follow the edge that is already there.
Then later, when you are more experienced in using the axe you can begin shaping the bit to your needs.

>>996610
I would rather if companies would just sell the axe heads so people can make their own handle, but buying used and vintage heads beats buying new completed ones any day.

>>997092
Spanish companies like Bellota, Zubiondo, Flores Cortes mostly just sell heads for export.
Its much cheaper that way, and people can make hsndles from locally available wood instead of "muh Hickry"

>>997059
Files are for when the edge is damaged, you should use stones on an ax.
>>997052
Look at Rinaldi axes, GB & Wetterlings make nice ones so do Hultafors. Your best bet is a vintage hatchet and either make your own handle or just buy one, remember, with a hatchet you don't need perfect grained hickory, beech, maple, even birch will work fine since hatchets don't go through much stress.

>>997234
There are many different cuts of file, just as there are many different grades of stone.
A smooth file can get an edge sharp enough to shave arm hair, although it would still benefit from being rubbed on stone.

Thats not the point of my post though.

What I intended to say was that you should keep things as simple as possible until you actually work out what your needs are.
And the way to do that is through repeated use of the tool.
You will quickly find out its shortcomings and either modify it to your needs, or keep those shortcomings in mind when "graduating" to a gearfag axe.

Until then, a file will give you a good working edge.
Obsessing over sharpening stones and fancy Swedish axes will not learn you anything.
A €12 Bahco is a better learning tool than any fancy hatchet.

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Harbor frieght for $7.99
Use it more than my stihl splitting maul

>>997423
get out

>>997452
lol why. It works great.

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>>992222

are axe edges supposed to be a bit rounded?

>>998126

It's not a requirement.

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>>982933

>>983025
>that's what she said

>>998126
For chopping & splitting axes, it's a nice thing to have, for carpentry style axes, absolutely NOT, woodworker axes should have a flat "scandi" style edge ground on one side only, much like a chisel.

>>998138
oh ok. I just want to chop branches but my axe is really blunt & rounded.

>>998965
i guess the follow through allows it open up with a rounded edge?

I have a worksharp and want to get this cheap axe sharp quickly.

I am planning on buying a husqvarna carpenter's axe. Is it a good choice for hiking?

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>>999007
>oh ok. I just want to chop branches but my axe is really blunt & rounded.

blunt is a different issue, you may want to sharpen it to make your life easier when chopping branches. But rounded like pic related is fine.

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>>1000695
How long a trip? What do you want the axe for?

I have one, and it's on the heavy side with a 1kg head. I'd carry it, but there's also something to be said for a lighter head on a long haft, sorta like the GB Small Forest Axe. Depends on if you prefer the heavier axe and don't mind carrying the extra weight.

Quality control on the Husky carpenter's axes is also not as good as they were a couple years ago. I sent mine back for an exchange because the eye was forged too large at the bottom and the heel was overground. Check out the amazon reviews.

I've handled older models of the same axe and the fit and finish is much better. Edge geometry is still good however, and hopefully the heat treat is also still good.

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>>992175
I like this one too, must be great for hardwood.

>>992327
Yeah you're right, but nothing that you can't fix with a file.

Thanks you both, planning on getting one, when times are better for me.

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This video would be great for an axe thread opener:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22tBYD-HMtA

And the manuscript as well with a few more details:

https://www.pcta.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/an_ax_to_grind.pdf

>>1001317
that video basically contains all the fundamentals of the internet axe culture

not to say americans aren't great workers but they are, how to say, a bit narrow sighted on the subject
>muh superior axe

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>>982933

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Are cold steel hawks fine for a budget hawk?
I was thinking of picking up either the trail or pipe hawk.

>>1002630
They're not bad, the grind is awful and they come pretty damn dull.

>>1002630
they're kinda shit (poor finish, and poor grind) but with some tlc and a file they can be pretty good. id say go for the pipe hawk and buy a spare handle or two with it.

>>1002673
>buy a spare handle or two
Nah, the eye is so small and it's such a simple design that you really don't need to buy new handles, i often times carry just the head with some sort of blade protection on it and find a decent stick (even green hazel if im just out for the day) and dump the handle or use it as firewood when i get bored of it.

>>981711
Post the hammer you use to baton it with.

>>996586

Buying several mediocre axes instead of one that'll last a lifetime

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>>992222

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Just how bad are M48 tomahawks?
If you replaced the handle and reprofiled the edge would it be all that bad?

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>>1002630

go CRKT

>>1004429

>cheap-o chinaman steel

avoid like the plague

>>1004429
Ain't gonna lie, i got one and it is great fun to mess around with. However it is almost utterly useless for any practical purpose besides being a really light weight and handy tool for murdering the ever living fuck out of a unarmed person. They just don't weigh enough to cut wood.
They ARE pretty well built and durable for what they are but what they are is a really handy light weight murder toy that 99.9999% of humans have no use for and those that do are probably serial killers or Special forces guys who bought a more expensive hatchet.
It is a mall ninja weapon that is unique in actually being durable enough to be used as a real weapon but that is it. As to it's abilities in its intended use....The points on the smile are pretty damn sharp and it will hold a knife like edge, however i think the lower point would snag like hell in flesh. The top point is just sharp enough that you could hurt someone with a thrust. It is REALLY fast once you figure out how to swing it, like a machete or faster.
Realistically you are going you carve extremely painful but non lethal flaps out of a person with the blade incapacitating them then get freaked out over how badly you hurt them with them still being alive then use the spike on their head to finish it. I cannot imagine getting hit anywhere in my body that the blade would not incapacitate me with a deep and nasty cut but unless it was a square hit to the head i also can't imagine the blade killing me without half a dozen whacks. The spike will go through a skull like it was a soda can.

>>1004429
Replacing the handle would be really hard and kinda pointless. The head has a 4 inch tab that fits into a molded slot in the handle and is bolted in.

You COULD very carefully carve a wood handle that the head would fit into but without using extremely tough and flexible wood the handle is so thin that it would be weaker than the carbon fiber plastic handle it comes with.

Hornbeam would be quite acceptable but nightmarish to carve into the proper fit and not significantly tougher than the plastic handle. It would give it a bit more heft though and you could add some length to the handle which would be pretty helpful.. As noted above it is really too light to be used as a tool.

As to reprofiling it, that would work just fine but you would end up removing weight which it is already lacking. Realistically with a hornbeam handle around 26-28 inches long it could make a decent light hatchet but it really isn't worth the effort when there are so many better options out there.

Honestly what you probably want to do is go to ebay and search "Vintage Plumb Boy Scout Hatchet"

>>990992
>>990745
Those curved ergonomically shaped handles are a distinctly North American thing, i seem to remember as a kid going to a logging museum that had a display that showed the evolution of wood cutting tools that distinctly mentioned them as a product of the clearing of the North American forests.

>>1002630
I have the trail hawk and the viking one and the latter is certainly better.

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>>981711
>440c

>>1004538
440C is actually a great steel.
Better than AUS8 and and kind of similar to VG10.

The one in the picture is definitely not 440C. Maybe 420J2

>>1004561
>440C is actually a great steel.
For a pocket knife of small fixed blade and with good quality heat treatment?
Definitely.
For a 10in Bowie to be used for chopping?
No, not really.

Every steel has it's uses, this is just not one of them.
Not to mention Böker "Magnum" are notoriously shit at quality control and especially in the heat treating department.

>>1004561
440C isn't the best "wood" steel, it's good for a pocket knife or for a camp knife for food prep and light wood work, it's shit for chopping tools.

>>992222
I praise you
almighty

Bumping thread.
Also wondering who got
>>1000000

Okay kids lets be honest, hickory is far too overrated. It's a good wood, but it's not the only wood for an ax handle: ash, elm, black locust, even birch and beech are good woods. It's just American hype making it seem like hickory is the only wood capable of being used for a good ax handle.

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Best axe I've ever owned.

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>>981557
https://youtu.be/yvIkJKgAlMk

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Thoughts on Roselli R850?

I like the combination of a hatchet head on a long shaft. Interesting shape, too.

>>1006883
Looks like a nice shape for carving, probably not good for much else.

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>>1006962
looks like it'd do pretty well at chopping with a profile like this...

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>>992222

>>1006975
I dunno, the profile is so fat and the head looks pretty small and light so i don't really know. Besides, the thick profile is only good for fresh wood.

>>1007027
450g head (1lb) on a 46cm (18'') length haft

So I'm gonna go on my first camping trip without someone else bringing an axe, so I'm looking to buy a hatchet. I was thinking of spending about 100 eurodollars on it. Any recommendations?

>>1007027
theres videos of it bouncing off rounds, but they're seasoned hardwoods so of course its not fit for purpose!

I think I'd prefer a traditional pattern ax, the Roselli has a secondary bevel and I'm not sure how I feel about that.

But I'd like a long haft and under 1kg weight / 2,2lb

Can anyone recommend me one?

>>1006857
Of course it's overrated.

>>1007661
https://www.gransforsbruk.com/en/product/gransfors-small-forest-axe/

>>1007661
Hultafors, they're cheaper than Gränsfors, come with a superior sheath. All you have to do is thin the handle.

>>1007670
The Husqvarna Forest ax has an 850g head weight i believe, not 100% sure though.

>>1007689
Honestly, i'd rather give the 2,10€ for a beech handle and have a bit of thinning to do and have to make the wedge slot myself than pay 30€ for a fancy hickory handle that still needs to be thinned and might come with an awkward kerf cut. I don't care if you include me a wooden and steel wedge, 30€ is too much for a simple piece of hickory, maybe if it came properly thin and the Husqvarna logo was burned in deep i'd think about giving that many shekels for one.

>>990294
God, I was learning from a local hobbyist blacksmith when I first saw that. I'm talking 70 yr. old who started at 60-something and does it for a few hours on weekends at a colonial type museum, and he could easily put wangstar to shame. You'd think someone who likes to talk about swinging axes would be quicker at bending some steel with a limp wrist.

also:
>shilling that wood forge

>>1008290
Well boys, Wranglecuck got a new axe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56DPmNeshPo&t=438s

>looking at reviews for axe/tomahawk
>throwing impacts the review
when will this meme end?

>>1009220
Probably never since people tend to think a tomahawk should be throwable, the problem is that most the guys saying it's a bad thrower are just plain incompetent.

Are there any axe kino youtubes I should be watching?

>>1009332
Weiderfan, Axe Junkies, Skillcult, Oxbow Farms and there's a few others. Also, axeconnected.blogspot.com for loads of axe knowledge.

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Who here has experience with racing axes? I'm on a timbersports team that's in the process of getting established, and we're still working on putting together a full set of tools. We've got one of the cheaper Tuatahi axes, which we set aside for competitions and demonstrations, and we have an old Plumb work axe for practices, but we need something better to practice with.

Pic related is a 4.5-lb felling axe patterned after a racing axe, and it's about $100, which is the cheapest that I can find for anything similar to a proper racing axe (at least of the style that's used for races in North America and AU). However, these axes are notorious for needing regrinding and sanding and sometimes even rehanging right out of the box. Since I don't know much about shaping an axe head, I'm not sure if it's a good idea, but I'm pretty handy and I'm sure I could figure it out.

Does anyone have experience with this axe? Anyone have tips on regrinding and shaping an axe head?

>>988049
Swedish homestead.

>>1010810
I apologize for my meme-nes but, that makers mark is a hults bruk, it's probably one of their axes with a polished head. The steel is pretty damn good. Look up on how to grind a competition ax since the grind is seriously different to a working ax. Don't be afraid of having to redo an ax, most timbersports competitors regrind their axes, even the Tuatahis. I would recommend thinning the handle for comfort, safety and long term personal. well being

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God i hate how thick the original handle came on this thing, but, after about 30 minutes of thinning with a rasp and knife it came to a comfortable thickness.

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i like axes. my axes

>>1006864
what happened? where did the axe even come from?!

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this is a very nice video, historic axe factory.
manly men smoking pipes indoors and making axes by hand
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr4VTCwEfko
pic unrelated

>>1006975
That profile is actually really shit for chopping anything aside from fresh soft woods.

>>1011479
I remember watching this video maybe 6 months ago and just rewatching it over and over again.

>>1011434
>hults bruk
Yes, it is. I didn't realize I forgot to say so.

Thanks for your input. Sounds like good advice.

>>1011508
If their heat treat is anything like the one on their regular axes, it should be pretty damn good.

>>1011558
That's kind of one of the problems - the axes turn out great and are super solid once they're reground, but regrinding them is apparently an enormous pain in the dick because the steel is so hard that you can barely even reshape them with a bastard file. Most of what I've read about reshaping these heads recommends using a grinder.

>>1011566
That's because most the guys regrinding them are the memesters that think all you need is a bastard file. If you're smart and go with a double cut rough file it shouldn't take too long.

>>981557
Best way to sharpen an axe? I have one from Home Depot I bought a while back, and it's dull as fuck.

>>1011603
File should be enough. Or you could look up a few videos on youtube

>>1011611
Just buy a random one off amazon? or the hardware store?

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>>992222
What axe should I get kek? I was going to do my homework but trusting your divine wisdom sounds like a better idea

>>1011721
>>1007691
This one here. Fuckin beautiful work. But if you don't want to, then just visit local pawnshops and surplus stores. You can find a good cheap axe. Even Craigslist

>>1011612
Bahco, Vallorbe, Oregon, Husqvarna, Stihl etc

>>1011721
Husqvarna, Hults Bruk, Gransfors, Wetterlings, Helko Werk but generally speaking the best axes are vintage ones.

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>>985833
Do you do commissions?

>>981557
Honestly, go to yard sales and stuff. You will find GEMS at yard sales in rural areas. And it won't cost you hardly anything.

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Sharing some more OC

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>>1013501
Friends' axe his granddad made him

>>1011612

10" Bahco double cut file is the best readily available file I've found for the money, I use that to set up the blade on all my axes, then refine the edge with one of those Lansky pucks followed by some finer grit stones.

>>1009207
Good to see he's graduated to unboxing vids. Hopefully He'll do a fidget spinner next!

>>1013578
Which, he said he found stupid a while ago. Kind of a retard, basically as dumb the comments claiming what a great competent craftsman he is.

>>981854
did you get that from the wooley hollow rendevous
a couple weeks ago?

>>1002740
>not having felling, limbing, and camp axes as well as hatchets, tomahawks, and carpenter's adzes
Right tool for the right job anon.

I know the G-B's are fucking noice but I'll be damned if I'm out there chopping a 15" diameter black locust down with a 19" axe.

>>1006857
Hickory does everything pretty fucking well while also not weighing a ton. There's a reason it's so widely used.

Black locust is dense enough it needlessly increases weight, and is a STONE BITCH to work with.

Ash is very strong but can be brittle, pick your pieces right and you have a winner.

Elm is brittle, full stop, and should not be used.

Birch is an excellent choice for camp axes, boy's axes, hatchets, etc (basically anything 2.25lb head or less), but a little too springy for the big felling axes, splitting mauls, etc.

Beech rots out too fast to bother with for anything carried innawoods, but has good qualities otherwise.

If I had to pick a non-hickory haft for a general purpose axe, I'd try my damnedest to make one out of osage orange (hedge). Almost as hard to work with as black locust, but springier, not as heavy (but still pretty fuggin heavy), and so dense on oil it pretty much doesn't rot ever. It's also fucking gorgeous. The problem is, they're twisted little snarls of trees that grow slow as shit and getting a blank long enough for a full axe handle would be a nightmare of deforestation.

>>1016136
I get that, hickory is probably THE best wood out there, but the problem is people don't consider axe handles as a consumable item, which they definitely are, to keep this short i suggest you read this post on axe connected:
http://axeconnected.blogspot.si/2013/03/weak-handles-revisited.html

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Bampin' with some OC

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Here's my axe... (more like tomahawk than anything)
Pretty nice toy. Chops wood pretty nicely but lacks a bit in splitting but not too bad.
I use the spike a whole lot more than a hammer end on axes. So much more useful in my neck of the woods.

Wish to share my plumbs axe that I refinished but no photo.

>>1016438
Mind explaining what good a spike does?

>>1001296
Worst wood grain possible oh my god

>>1016348
>but the problem is people don't consider axe handles as a consumable item, which they definitely are
Many many people will disagree with you on this. Treat your axe properly and the original handle will last multiple lifetimes (assuming it was of good quality to start with).

And that link was basically a multi-page rant about HURR USE LOCALLY SOURCED OR YOU'RE NOT A *PROPER* TREEHUGGER, and didn't discuss the merits of differing materials at all beyond "random stick innawoods will probably last a while when turned into a axe handle by a master craftsman. Maybe. I think."

That being said, as I pointed out in >>1016136
there are a fair few types of wood that make either close-enough axe handles, or are situationally useful (particularly birch, and two I didn't mention are maple and aspen). But the vast majority of wood either simply won't work due to being brittle (elm, most oak) or have enough negatives they should be considered sub-par (beech, black locust, hedge, walnut, most fruit woods).

I will say, that for the Euros, yew would make a damn fine axe handle.

>>1016642
Not the anon you're replying to, but curious what you mean about oak being "brittle"? What property are you describing?

Several White Oak species are at least as tough as hickory and my local Oregon white oak (Q. garryana) is more elastic than hickory.

I've read that back in the Am. Revolutionary war era, white oak species were the first choice for tool handles and shipbuilding, among others.

>>1016675 lol

>>1016945
White oak is generally fine, but oak in general has to be properly dried or it tends to split and crack. It's viable, but not ideal.

White oak is also relatively scarce in the US compared to the various "red" oaks and scrub oaks, commands a premium due to its extensive use in furniture/furnishings, and grows significantly slower than pretty much every other North American hardwood and as such isn't as renewable.

Oak in general is going to be less flexible than most of the other viable handle options, and more likely to split along the grain. Hence the brittle comment. This also makes it harder on the user as it will transmit vibrations and impact more.

>>1016349
I see a Husqvarna carpenter's axe

>>1012701
I do. I posted a video here >>990265
there's info on the channel about page

>>981557
Made a meme video with a friend, you can see pretty much all the axes of my collection.

https://youtu.be/6u6LkmpJtdU

>>981918
What are you some kinda queer?

>>1017614
Yup, and the other one is the Husqvarna forest ax hung on a 2€ beech handle i re-did into a slimmed down octagonal and i made the sheath for it.

>>1017786
Nice, I love the octagon handle. I've got the carpenter's axe too, gonna get some photos for anon.

I was using an axe for the first time today in a very long time and my ring finger on both hands is in so much pain. Any idea why?

>>1017931
Vibrations, you're probably holding it too tight and the handle is most definitely too thick, thin down the handle and hold it looser.

>>1017936
Did I cause any permanent damage? Even today my fingers still are in pain

>>1017942
Nah, you're just not used to it, after you thin the handle and learn proper grip your hands won't hurt, but since you're not acquainted with an ax, your hands are gonna hurt for a day or two.

>>1017945
Oh cool tyvm. I was using a huge yellow handle that's heavy as fuck beccause it's half a pick axe and half regular axe. I have ripped open caluses

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>>1017945
Here's a picture of the pain and soreness

>>1018035
Here is the axe I use. If it's vibration that hurt me, what do I do to stop it? Or will it eventually stop

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>>1018109
Fuck forgot pic

>>1018109
>>1017945

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I also do a little bit of blacksmithing. This hatchet is made with a mild steel body and a W1 bit. I still need to polish it up a bit and redo the handle a little, but it chops pretty good.

>>1018110
Oh that's a plastic handle, those are shit. No real solution to that and the pain will come every time you use the ax since plastic transfers most the vibrations.

>>1017931
Is the handle too large for your hands? This can cause problems.

http://seanhellman.blogspot.com/2014/03/axe-handles-size-is-important.html

>>1018668
This is my axe,
>>1018110

>>1018828
Yeah, I got that. Compare your hands, when gripping the handle, to the photos in the link I posted.

>>1018194
The handle is turned around wrong, aside from that it looks like a nice hatchet. What's the blade profile like?