If you don't gave a packraft yet, fucking get one.

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On my list. Really want to do the wilderness portion of the Middle Fork of the Flathead.

>>980212

no

I've been considering them, I always go fishing when I hike but being stranded to the shore by the campsite is less than ideal most of the time

Useability verses a canoe?

I'm basically over gearfagging now and very happy with my setup (tho my tarp is needing replaced),, my next /out/ purchase is going to be a boat of some kind, I was looking at a 15-16' canoe

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>>980212

Why would you want something inflatable and so potentially destructible? There are better options and it's called a canoe, get one. You can get covers for them to keep white water or rain off of stored gear.

>>980296
Can you deflate a canoe and carry it miles into the backcountry?
Didn't think so you goddamn retard.

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I recently got infested with the stupid idea of buying one and go up north this summer to make a trip around the lake in pic related, so I'll probably do that.

>>980324
sounds like a great idea, find a huge, secluded lake and camp along the shore for a week.

don't laugh at me when I get the inflatable raft, solid would just be way much work.

>>980212
Maybe you should also invest in a book on English grammar.

>>980307
This.

>>980307
>>980395
have fun carrying 30 pounds of blow up toy around with you everywhere. fuck this all together

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id like one of these with a cheap inflatable tied to it with all my stuff or the gf. lol

>>980403
>30 pounds
Try 12. You must be a weak, effeminate numale if you think that's a big deal.

>>980404
but with a motor off-course.

>>980405
hiking for 7 days though the mountains in the backcountry with a fully loaded backpack already, adding an extra 12 pounds is a dumb idea if your not a masochist

>>980403
that is where the dog sled comes in. and the pack mule.

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>>980212
>no place to use one in this neck of the woods

>>980411
>fully loaded backpack

That's what. 10 pounds at most? Do you have limp wrists too?

i had an inflatable. Hit some branches and it completely FUCKED my day.

>>980212
Water baaaaad!

>>980411
Can you think of a better option if you want to be on a body of water that's only accessible by foot?

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>>980427
Neither.
Fucking crocodiles would push my shit in.

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>>980411
Still beats portaging a rigid canoe, smart guy.

PS I'm sorry about your anemia, you should get it checked out.

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The Explorer 200, 24.99 from Canadian Tire, packs smaller. Packraft is obviously much more durable and maneuverable in the water, but its always seemed like overkill to me.

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I used to have pic related, got around just fine in it desu.

>>980630
I sometimes paddle where there are a lot of snags, I like durable.

Currently got an Advanced Elements inflatable which is sturdy enough, but it's 35 lbs when it's dry and mostly fills a big duffle bag, so not really viable for long hikes.

>>980403

>30 pounds

Try 4.

>>980403
The light ones are only 5lb ÷ another ~5lb for equipment, which is very light for their capabilities and compared to the alternatives. If you only walk a day or two to or between lakes and rivers, ~10lb extra is not much at all.

As someone who wants to buy one, any chance we can have an actual thread about various pack rafts instead of a pissing contest? All I really know about is alpacka.

>>980650
Fuck off, this pissing contest is much better ;p

The rafts are super handy for floating moose quarters down river (if you hunted and camped near a river). If you cant carry a pack raft in your kit they clearly tou don't go /out/ enough.

This thing weighs 36 ounces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaZZX2mAdxU
Looks pretty damn fun

This nigger looks like he had a great time on some Class 2, but ran across a sandbar on a lake and kept going and put a hole in it. Don't be stupid and learn how to swim and you should be fine.

36 oz, canoe faggots

>>980630
>always seemed like overkill to me
Not if you want to do any kind of whitewater. One hard bump against a sharp rock and that thing is toast.

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>>980428
>7 day hike
>10 pounds

You sure about that?

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>>980403
https://www.klymit.com/litewater-dinghy.html


http://www.diypackraft.com/


>30 pounds

>>980212
I'm waiting for my brother-in-law to buy a new one so I can buy his old one for cheap.

I once accidentally bought a tiny child's toy raft to get across a river to a remote hunting area. Only enough room for my ass, buddy and I had to pull ourselves one at a time along a rope over freezing water legs hanging over and a rifle in our lap.

10/10 made the adventure that much better.

>>980268
>I've been considering them, I always go fishing when I hike but being stranded to the shore by the campsite is less than ideal most of the time
Enjoy sinking into the lake when you hook your inflatable raft. There's a reason that fishing-specific float tubes are made with multiple chambers. Pack rafts are simply for locomotion - utility in getting around only.

>>980405
>You must be a weak, effeminate numale

I want /k/ to go.

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>>981104
>http://www.diypackraft.com/
Thank you, anon! Now I remember why I still browse this sad husk of a once great board.

>>981413
I used to fish a lot from one of these >>980630
when I was a kid, never had a problem.

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>>981474
thats what they all say. Ive fished from one in a river for 6 years so far and never sunk a hook into one. given packrafts are made with much thinner material 200d coated poly/nylon, fishing safely from one wouldnt be that hard. I would be more concerned with sliding over a rock and cutting it than a hook. dude probably dont fish anyway

Supai Flatwater master race reporting.

I really want a packraft, it would make a couple of the loops I want to do in Glacier feasible, but I think I'm too fat for one.

>>981667
Alpacka says their rafts will all hold at least 75 lbs of cargo, plus the paddler. Get one of the cargo or 2-man rafts if you're worried.

>>981474
>it never happened to me
>it could never happen, ever

This is how most rednecks get dead.

>>982039
Statistically speaking most blue collar men die from workplace accidents and old age actually.

>>982039
Good thing I'm an educated liberal city slicker who was on the swim team, and has enough common sense not to puncture my raft with fishhooks. It's not hard to fish carefully in an inflatable if you're not drunk all the time.

>>982451
>educated liberal city slicker

Ya got me, good one.

>>982451
Chad please

>>982460
It's even worse than that. I'm Canadian (from the six) and I voted for Trudeau.

Jesus guys why is /out/ all of a sudden so hostile. This is the third thread I saw tonight where people argued over the most retarded things that didn't even need heated discussion.

Don't fight so much guys. Just love the /out/doors

>>982816
All of a sudden? It's been like that since the frogposters started showing up 3 years ago.

Canoes of any kind are waaay too much work to haul into the backcountry. If you're backpacking, just backpack. If you want to start close to your car, canoe to a campsite somewhere, then canoe back, that sounds like a lot of fun.

>>982793
Need flags on this board so I can ignore leaf posts

>>982939
But there's something special about a canoe. They really aren't as much of a hassle as you make them out to be. If you get the right canoe (and some friends) you can carry everything you need fairly easily and its fun as well. The tandem canoeing is one of my favorite things to do /out/

>>983627
They have their uses for sure, but accessing remote bodies of water is not one of them.

I have a small sport car so naturally carrying a canoe or even a kayak is pretty hard and very expensive.

that's why for me, it's the packraft. the best portable watercraft.

>>980212
How durable are these? All the water I could pack into has quite a few shallow spots, and extremely rocky. Not to mention other plant debris that could damage it. What about inflation and a paddle? It seems awesome

>>983627
>friends
I have 2 dogs.

>>980212
These are available now and then on massdrop. Cost me like $100.

>>986123
Pretty fucking durable, actually. Most are made of polyurethane coated nylon and the bigger ones have multiple air chambers so the notion of accidentally popping one with a fish hook is pretty laughable. You'd have to intentionally force the hook through 3-4 layers of material.

Most also come with an inflation bag, it takes a while but it works.

>>986123
It depends on how much you spend.
They range anywhere from $100 "paddle around the lake" boats to $2000 full-on whitewater set ups.

If you want something fairly poke resistant for fishing and maybe some class I-II river runs, probably cost you about $200-500.

>>986153
>>986159
Nothing to fast around here unless it's rained rescently. It's mostly intertube type rivers and streams. What about the paddles? Guess they make collapsible ones?

>>980216

North Fork is also based.

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>>981415
If you can't carry under 15 pounds of carbon canoe, I'd sure as shit like to see you try and carry a metal rifle and sidearm.

>>986335
Yeah, they're usually not included but are easy to acquire.