Fishing & Tackle Thread

Ned rigs are meme bass tactics. Are there any other ones?

>>965948
Calling it a ned rig is what makes it a meme. Its just half a worm on a ball head jig, nothing meme about it.

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>>965950
more like half a worm and three quarters of a ball head..

>>965956
Yeah but those special ned rig jigs only started being made after the presentation became a meme

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>>965958
yeah thats true..lol
I like to rig the worms on weedless hooks and use them for rockfish in the kelp. Its like a finesse punchbait.

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>>965940

Daily reminder that all non-shimano users are technologically cucked

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My buddy took me to this dope pond. He caught a few 4+ on the Chattermeme and I was using a spook and caught this one a few nicer ones. Sorry for the shitty quality.

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>>965964
noice!

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>>965940
BOWFIN LIVES MATTER

>>965962
Okay Shimano rep. Thanks for the info. Have a good night and enjoy your 2 inch Japanese penis.

>>965964
Chatter meme is the best meme honestly man. It catches fish that a lipless crank and a spinner bait would catch. Now.....it's not perfect and some days either of those baits out perform it but its stupid good. I wish I knew why it worked. But it just does.

>>965967
Thanks!

>>965970
Yeah we were using my rods and I was hoping I'd get to that one first, but I also don't mind seeing big fish blow up on a spook.

>>965971
Top water is great when it works. I wish it just worked as often as a chatter meme. Z Man brand or not chatter baits work year round. It upsets me that I throw them so often but they work get in Arizona resovoirs. I can fish them in 2 feet or 40 feet of water depending on head weight loss. Everything here is a massive flooded canyon. Some of the stuff drops to 150 feet or more.

>>965972
Typos my bad guys. I'm drunk. You get it. I'm on spring break. Lol

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ok someone here told me a few weeks ago to try a hook and a worm no weights but i could only cast it like ten feet and it tangled up my line every fifth cast

what do?

>>965976
Sounds like your tackle could be too heavy for the task. Live worm or artificial? The real deal will obviously weight significantly less than a plastic worm and an unweighted hook isn't adding much weight to the equation. I'd try a light or ultralight rod with a pretty wispy tip to impart more flick into the cast. Something between 6 and 7 foot paired with a light spinning reel. 4# mono or 10# braid as lighter, thinner line is going to behave better. Light bait/lures stop pulling line quickly which lets the line over-run the cast (even on spinning tackle) much like a baitcaster spool over-running if it's rotation isn't kept in check with how fast the lure is moving during a cast.

>>965976
Generally you should do that with a spinning reel unless you're tossing something dense and solid like a 6 inch stick bait or brush hog.

Also your line size and reel matters

>>965979
>>965980
i went to walmart and bought a cheapo spinning reel with 8# mono on it, thought that would be small enough

>>965981
>bought a cheapo spinning reel with 8# mono on it
Is that to say it came pre-spooled with line? Mono has pretty "good" memory in that it holds shape and will maintain a lot of the curl from being wound around a spool (fluorocarbon can be a bigger pain in the ass, and braid has essentially no memory). Who knows how long that line has been sitting tightly coiled on the the reel's spool before you bought it. With some more casting and retrieving you might be able to work some of the memory out but I still think 8# is a little too heavy for the task. I find memory can be a bother enough so that I even prefer to to spool my reels from the larger service spools instead of the small spools you'd find at Wal-Mart or most sporting goods stores. If I haven't used a particular reel in a while I'll even go ahead and re-spool rather than wasting time trying to cast out any memory that has developed in the line.

Anyway I can't estimate the total weight easily but the lightest thing I usually throw on 8# mono is a 1/16 oz jig head with a 5" Yamamoto single-tail or hula grub. That's a fair size chunk of soft plastic on an already weighted hook and it works fairly well. I'd have to figure in total it weighs well in excess of 1/4 oz because even those tiny Rapala balsa cranks marked 1/4 oz don't cast well on the same setup.

So TLDR - Still pretty sure the gear is too heavy for such light bait.

>>965984
>>965976

just tell the god damn guy to crimp on bullet or split shot for now.

if its live bait, catch a catfish or something. if its a plastic worm you have a nice little mojo rig

>>965984
it tangled pretty bad, probably gonna have to respool it if i ever use it again
do you think 8# braid would be light enough?

>>965967
I have the River2sea goldies. Nothing eats them but they look pretty cool in the water

>Finally get a day off
>Forecast high of 8, low of -4
Fuck my life.

>>966052
Do some ice fishing, in my area it too cold to fish and too warm for ice fishing.

>>966055
Ice is thoroughly melted, we were at 55 degrees yesterday.

>>966061
65 here yetrdy, Now snow,
its not terribly cold but fuck going out in the cold wet rain

>>965976
You put the weight far up the line, not on the worm. Then you have casting distance and action.

>>965940
Those of you who keep your tackle in your car, do you worry about plastics melting or damage from the heat?

>>966065
>Then you have casting distance
Dude what

>>966067
Hasn't been a problem for me

>>966063
Same here. Trout streams are too far away and most of stocked fish are gone.

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>Dat ass

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>>966069
>Dude what

Weights added to the line or lure allow you to cast further than without them.

>>966092
the main river nearby is in its closed season for stocking /spawning/ letting it get packed for opening day
theres c&r areas but im lazy tbqh

>>966106
Did you read the post I was replying too? He said weights further up the line (i.e. Carolina rig) make you cast further which doesn't make any sense.

>>966113
I said that and it does make sense because that's exactly what you need to do. It isn't a Carolina rig due to the distance from the worm to the weight being a great deal further (several feet).

You can also use a lead core leader that is a few feet long with a mono leader on the end.

>>966135
>15
no it doesnt, when you add weight up the line it makes it fly through the air all fucked up and not go anywhere decent

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>>966136
I've been doing that for years and it works fine. you just need to learn how to cast.

>this fucking board

>>966137
flat out when the weather isnt shit, il go to the local football field and do casting tests to prove you wrong

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Updated the beginners bass gear for the pastebin

Here you go Bepsi. Hope you approve

>>966135
Nigga u dumb. The best place for a weight is at the end of your line.

>>966144
>>966138
Sure it is better to have it at the end of the line, but you can still cast further with a weight on the line up above and still have proper action of the lure at the end. Switching them kills the action. without the weight, frogposter >>965976 will be lucky to cast anywhere at all.

What is wrong with you people? Don't you ever fish or do you sit on your ass and argue "theoretical semantics" all day?

>>966150
yes i fish
hence why i know its fucking retarded to put weight way up you line
your best bet is a sliding weight if youre so worried about it killing the action

>>966150
I'm fishing right now homie

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Will the Chattermeme do salt work?

>>966150
no one on /out/ fishes. Just like no one on /biz/ knows how to make money and no one on /fit/ works out.

It's a board of hypothetical fantasies played out by the miserable lives of 4chan.

>>966155
idk maybe with a swimbait trailer
i still ned to call the plane company im traveling with to see if i can bring fishing stuff in my carry on for when i go to texas

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>>966135
>>966137
>>966150
This is why everyone hates Nickelback

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anyone here running a sonar?

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>>966185
yeah a couple..why? helix 5 & 7

>>966185
No one here has a boat

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>>966191

>>966194
Emails are not a boat

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>>966141
Saved. I will delete the old one and add this with a few other things I got saved.

>>966102
4u

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>>966202
no, but this is. I know Lizardfag has one too

>>966207
I wish I knew someone with a boat but I'm in welding school right now and don't have a garage. Pretty gay man.

>>966203
cool

i got a couple other things in mind i'm gonna try to work on soon. i'll run them by you

>>966141
That's a terrible fucking guide.

>>966223
The reel and rod selection is extra retarded.

>>966223
I kinda have to agree, very one dimensional and in some cases not even correct at all.

not to mention:
>you should go for a Shakespeare Ugly Stik

>>966223
Can you point out anything terriblly wrong? I'm new so when I read this it made some sense

>>966231
I didn't even read it.

If it says "Ugly Stik" then we might need to revise it

>>966233
when im done with my math homework Ill try and make a revised one, got nuthin else to do

>>966233

Peps, il take some time and rewrite the pastebin It might take me a while but i feel like i can have it be pretty inclusive and something better
should i?

>>966235
do you want to do pastebin or let me do it?
i dont want to put time and effort into

>>966239
eh, idc, I was gunna work on that picture for beginners

>>966241
lures or gear or what were you planning on working on?
desu im not working right now and need something to do

>>966242
Just the lures and basic rod/reel setup

>>966243
fine , il find something else to do since im wasting my life away and let you do it

sugestions for decent cheap beginner rods for my pastebin im working on ?

also decent cheap reels

Whats wrong with Ugly Stik?

>>966259
their reels arent the best and while the rods are decent for soaking bait theyre a bit soft for most lures

>>966233
see

>>966259
the only thing they are good at is not breaking. There are tons of other rods with the similar durability but with a lot more sensitivity

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>>966207
i bought a 5hp outboard for my canoe last week, but the guy didnt give me a title or bill of sale so i have no idea how i can use it without going to jail

>>966278
What do you mean? A bill of the sale for the engine itself? You dont need to register the engine. Im not sure what state you are in but im pretty sure you just need to register the canoe and you'll be all set.

>>966283
missouri requires outboard motors themselves be registered for some reason, i think texas does it too

>>966286
jeez, that's pretty gay. Id say either look up how to get a new title or go to the DMV and explain the situation in hopes the person isn't a fag and will help you out.

Or I mean you could just say fuck em and just go without it and hope you dont get checked out on the water.

>>966252
probably any cabelas or bps combo will be better for a beginner to get a feel for different rods and reels

>>966302
i decided not to include that in what iw as typing up as there alrady something in the thingy
>>966254
is what i came up with so far,

>>966203
Thanks, saved but it was more about that bowfin 'mireing that cheek cleavage.

Who /SoutherCaliforniaSurfFishing/ here?

tatula or curado

make decisions for me, please

>>966232
What he has labeled a jerk bait is incorrect. He's too retarded to use a bait caster so he's says they are shut when they are objectively better for heavy lures. He's just a retard. Jerkbaits are not top water lures. He may be an idiot describing a wake bait which is still different from other top water lures.

Never buy a spin cast reel. They are garbage. Get a bait caster and spinning reel. Use the spinning reel for drop shots.

Jesus. YouTube the "informative fishermen" guy. Way better than that MS paint shut guide.

>>966231
It's beyond retarded. It looks like a list a guy would put together who goes fishing twice a year and never actually reads about gear and tackle setups or rigs.

>>966233
It's garbage man

>>966325
whats your oppinions on this ?
>>966254
for a beginner looking for a rod

>>966327
An ugly stick will work but it isn't very sensitive. You will miss light biting fish. It's good for bait and circle hooks as a budget rod. I have one for a sabiki rig for catching bait fish because it can get banged around and survive.

Browning makes good rods for 50 to 70 bucks. If you get near the 70 dollar mark look at an Abu Garcia vendetta rod. Very good for the money. Bass pro bionic blade or extreme rods are good for 70 to 100 bucks. St Croix rods are hard to go wrong with.

Tackle warehouse has a lot of rods on sale right now. All graphite is best for bass fishing. You only want a glass graphite mix rod with a slower action for crank baits as a dedicated rod only for that. Get a medium heavy weight fast action rod for bait casting with an Abu orra line reel or 100 dollar lews or 13 fishing reel. If you want to spend more get a citica or curado and YouTube how to use them. For spinning get a medium weight fast action rod for spinning with a 3000 size plfueger president or Shimano Sahara reel.

>>966336
im asking hat you think of my shitty infographic for newbies since you had such harsh criticisim of the other picture
theres already a ton of rods, rod/reel combos listed in the pastebin for anyone actually looking for recomendations
im working on the beginner pictures

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also any and all pointers on this, have to go eat now and wont be back for a few hours but willing to put more time and effort into it

its not organized yet or anyhting

>>966188
>yeah a couple..why? helix 5 & 7

Did you have a budget one like mine before those two? I love mine but curious what I'm missing.

>>965962
>daiwa
>retarded
why

>>966191
>No one here has a boat

Well that should change

>>966338
Telling them not to worry about the action of the rod is beyond retarded. If they are pitching and flipping jigs they need a medium heavy at a bare minimum with a fast action or they won't get good hook sets. Same goes for any wide gap or worm hooked plastic they are throwing.

The info graphic is good but telling everyone they shouldn't use a bait caster is fucking stupid. They work way better for spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, jigs, top water spooks etc etc. If it's 3/8 Oz or more it should be thrown on a baitcaster. But you think hey are retarded because you're too dumb to read how to use one or watch a video.

3500 is way too big of a reel for anything medium weight or lower and 7 foot or less. Especially for bass and freshwater.

3000 is max size needed. You should recommend a copolymer line over mono. It is more sensitive and ties easy and has a little less stretch. Dedicated spinnerbaits or wire baits need mono so you done bend the inline wires.

Honestly spinning reels work wait better with a braid to fluorocarbon leader. No line twist and way better sensitivity for drop shots and Ned rigs.

>>966351
This is for beginners just getting into fishing

Chances are they won't be pitching into weeds from a 50k bass boat
Or using a memecaster
There's already a separate section on what if you want a memecaster

>>966357
It's still stupid not to suggest one and to tell them to get a medium light rod and that action doesn't matter. It really does matter.

>>966364
Because someone who has never fished before is going to know what kind of action they need for what kind of fishing right? That's something you learn as you go

>>966369
You're a dumb fuck if you think they should just get any old action rod.

If they want to throw senkos and get a light slow action rod the are fucked.

You're an idiot and your guide is stupid.

>>966278
Do you still have the dudes number? Go the the park service and see if they'll get you a title if not, call the guy and try to get it sorted out.

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>>966387
Once again. Guide for people who haven't ever fucking fished before

Because someone who hasn't ever fished before is going to know what kind of fishing they'll be doing and what their personal preferences are
If someone knows they're going to do nothing but throw big swimbaits. Then yeah
But most beginners will try a bit of everything and find what they like and learn what they look for in a rod

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Has anyone had any luck with this stuff?

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>>966389
he says he never had the title, but before i bought it he just said he couldn't find it. won't give me bill of sale, pretty sketchy. what do you mean by go to the park service? like just ask a park ranger?

>>966401
Well in Texas boats ands motors are registered through the Texas Parks and Wildlife department, so I didn't know if it was the same type of deal there.

Here it doesn't really matter though. You don't have to slap a sticker on the motor like you do your boat.

>>966396
So the goal is to have them waste money? Cool. Yeah buy a rod you know nothing about and be pissed off when it sucks. What a great guide

>>966403
we go through the DMV as well as have a sticker for the motor.

>>966415
Ah okay. I mean it's worth a shot going and seeing if they'll get you title, but you probably just bought a stolen motor lol.

>>966412
>Don't buy rod until you know what kind of fishing you will be doing
>Can't figure out what fishing you will be doing unless you have a rod
>Don't want to buy a rod until you know what kind of fishing you will be doing

>>966325
are you autistic?

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7.4lbs

>>966351
you sound like a real piece of shit. even if u disagree with a couple of things that are on there, what have you contributed to the board other than showing that you're an ass?

>>966446
Sick snakehead

>>966446
An actual bowfin

Top catch

>>966440
>he's so mad his guide got called garbage by multiple people he's resorting to calling people autistic

>>966446
The king of all fish appears. God emperor bowfin

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>>966346
had a few before.. old hummingbird, low end garmin and a intro lowrance. it all depends on what you need one for. I like that I can use them for navigation. no more pulling out the cellphone (though i still use the navionics app on the phone when i'm in sloughs and shallow areas) gps changed my life as far as getting here and there and knowing where you are in relation to what. down imaging and sideview changed the game because damn..i can see every bit of structure and what hanging around it really clearly. difference is also noticed when setting sensitivity ranges. my first ff's i could never dial them in completely, too many arcs turned out to be debri. with the helix models I kind of know whats what because they have higher resolutions and are more graphic if that makes any sense. I usually run the di and sonar side by side. the di will pinpoint the structure and the sonar will show the fish arcs (air bladders)
one thing i do find a bit annoying now is my dependency on the electronics. it runs my life when i'm on the water. I feel like im constantly staring at the ff not checking out the scenery or watching that bird fly by..

>>966446
Why are bowfins so hard to find?

>>966400
If it is sticky like other dip baits, go for it.

>>966446
Nice trout

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>>966468
I find that they're just lazy when attacking lures, I only catch them consistently on cutbait

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>>966446
nice salmon bruh.

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Chattermeme best meme

>>966482
Nice drum

>>966486
Bowfin*

>>966486
black tail salmon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ok3fxX-Do0

yall niggas see this shit?

>>966161
Likely gotta be checked. Rods and reels maybe on carry on but they'll have to fit inside a certain measurement

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>>966504
That's worse than anything I've subjected against /out/.

I'm glad I didn't have the sound turned on.

>>966223
Honestly 4/10, good meme quality but poor information quality

>>966252
I've had a Shakespeare "amphibian" that I've been abusing for years of irregular use. Probably cost 25$ and hasn't failed me once. Line on it is still good too. But it's shit tier

>>966067
It's never been a problem for me and my cat sits in 105 degree Florida heat

>>966343
Top water add pic of hula popper

>>966514
Penn battle reels are a good bang for your buck, especially in saltwater

>>966482
Your haveing fun at the coast it seems.

>>966351
I'm an idiot and figured out a baitcaster with 2 hours of light googling. It's not that hard and should be included.

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>>966464
>had a few before.. old hummingbird, low end garmin and a intro lowrance. it all depends on what you need one for. I like that I can use them for navigation. no more pulling out the cellphone (though i still use the navionics app on the phone when i'm in sloughs and shallow areas) gps changed my life as far as getting here and there and knowing where you are in relation to what. down imaging and sideview changed the game because damn..i can see every bit of structure and what hanging around it really clearly. difference is also noticed when setting sensitivity ranges. my first ff's i could never dial them in completely, too many arcs turned out to be debri. with the helix models I kind of know whats what because they have higher resolutions and are more graphic if that makes any sense. I usually run the di and sonar side by side. the di will pinpoint the structure and the sonar will show the fish arcs (air bladders)
>one thing i do find a bit annoying now is my dependency on the electronics. it runs my life when i'm on the water. I feel like im constantly staring at the ff not checking out the scenery or watching that bird fly by..

Ha, I still keep the cell phone out.

Sounds like DI and SI are the big difference. I'm out deep a lot so not sure how useful they would be.

I'm hooked on mine too. Sometimes half the fun is seeing what shows up on the screen.

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Who /oldschool/ here?

>>966403
If I am recalling how it works correctly for Texas, you register the the motor with it's title number under your name. You then register that registration number with your boat title number and receive a number code that you put on your boat.

Yeah Texas sucks for motor boats. But you dont have to do this for non motorized boats or sail boats under a 24'...I think...not looking it up right now.

>>966504
excellent

>>966527
Get that one from your grandpappy? I have an old green fiberglass rod too. Gotta be from the 70s at the earliest.

>>966401
>never had the title
>couldn't find it.
>won't give me bill of sale
>>966415
>DMV as well as have a sticker for the motor

I hope you didn't pay a lot and your intention is to find another of the same motor and use this one for parts.

>>966534
Yeah it is, pretty sensitive for a 40+ year old rod. Wonder why they stopped using wood handles and glass is still a thing.

>>966537
Yeah, I meant 70s at the latest btw. Its really old, too brittle to use. I like wood handles too, I'd buy a rod that offered a nice shiny one. I guess they're just less durable, they can get waterlogged, cracked, brittle, splinter. Solid cork is my personal favorite, not a fan of foam or split grips.

>>966537
Wood cracks and splinters and is heavy. Glass fiber is heavy too. Weight is one of the reason sensitivity is another reason lol

>>966394
id take that buzzbait over the weird fucking chatterbait i got

>>965969
I'm not saying Shumano is good (not the same guy), but I don't think Shuman is Japanese. They make their rods in the US. In all seriousness, eagle claw is where it's at.

>>966554
Shimano is very clearly a Japanese company. Just because Toyota makes cars in the US doesn't mean the design is not of Japanese origin and has no Japanese parts.

You can't literally order Japanese domestic market (JDM) reels and lures from Japan by Shimano and Daiwa. River to sea is another Japanese company. They make the whopper plopper.

>>966554
The higher end reels are all made in Japan. And that's where their head quarters is, and that's where it was founded...

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>>966539
I replaced the foam grip on my gx2 casting rod with a split grip made out of wood. I put some 2 ton epoxy on the wood and then scraped it off using a folded piece of paper so that there is not a surface layer, only what is able to soak into the wood. So far it works really well for me. I couldn't find a finished pic so here it is with just the grip on.

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>>966343

>>966567
Bitch stop taking the bait and show more coast pics. Im salt deprived this deep in the state. I swear to good i need to smell that wayer melon and hite that pop.

Im ao fucking jelouse

>>966578
Oh and if you hit up the jetty with myllet then make sure you make a cut into the head to expose the brain. Thats like a solid 50% hook up rate. Bull reds are dicks over tits for mulet brain.

>>966579
Also stingrays taste like bay scolps. Skin those fagots like catfish and cube them up. Bake them with some butter anf garlic them a squeeze of lemon.

>>966580
And fuck hard heads if you get a big one stab it like a bitch ass snek head if you get a small one then through it at a seagull. If you are lucky you can hit the seagull with a spine they realy dont like that.

>>966585
10 inch croaker make good cut bait but if you fillet them out they are perfect sized for fish tacos.

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>>966578
>>966579
>>966580
>>966585
Damn dood u drunk again?

We fished on a jetty for awhile, but we didn't have any live bait. And then we went into the bay and waded a little, but the oyster boats were running and the game warden told us all the fish follow the boats.

Tomorrow we're gonna fish some canals and bays with the yak and throw out some shrimp if the weather is too shitty.

Still a good day I saw some Dolphins and got to wet a line. Also caught that big ass drum in a pond.

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>>966578
its always warm somewhere..

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>>966588
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>>966578

>being this drunk

You sure you're not George Bush?

>>966576
Looks very nice, I might try to replace some of the cork on my older rods with bass wood. Did you just drill a hole and then cut the wood down the center?

>>966535
i payed 50 for it, im considering trying to get a bonded title or just turn it over if its been reported stolen

>just respooled with some braid (never used since newb to fishing, always used mono setup my parents use) and set up some rigs with it, got all bait and stuff ready
>drive 40mins to rock fishing spot
>get out to go grab rod
>didn't even put rod in car
had a lightweight short rod but the line on it is old as so only cast 10 meters at most

>>966701
It's okay, if you actually brought the rod you probably would have just spent the whole time untying wind knots and getting frustrated.

That's about how my first time using braid went.

>>966702
Did you try throwing a 1/32 ounce jig straight into 30mph winds or something? You're not fly fishing you shouldn't just be getting wind knots.

>>966702
I overspooled by a tiny bit probably anyways and it feels like I didn't put it on tight enough or something (which is maybe why it did overspool)

I ended up using the shitty rod and trying out soft lures which I don't know if I'm doing right with
just reading online I read do kind of like a semi circle (cast to right, then work around to left) then move to another spot further down, doing cast and retrieve
only 2 I got solid hits but didn't get any hooked on. 2nd one it hit 2-3 like I got it hooked on but it came off or something.

>>966708
Put a pencil through the spool of line and hold either side with your feet to tension it ad you reel the new line onto the reel. Works well

>>966710
I was gonna just put the drag on pretty light, then tie end to the other reel on another split rod with 1 eye, then hold the reel/rod down with feet and hold the rod im putting on up so it has tension

>>966711
Dude what.

>>966712
like in pic

anyways, just did it and it feels a lot tighter (hopefully not too tight though) and it's not as close to edge as the reel as it was on old one (now it looks normal like it should).

might go test out tomorrow since I've been using old as reels with mono thats been sitting on for like 2+ years so want to see if it's much better casting

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forgot pic

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I got my first fish on the gander mtn vortex

Pros
>it's a fishing rod

Cons
>everything else

It's a total piece shit. I can't believe I lost the receipt, hopefully I can get my money back.

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Another dink snook. At least they're biting.

>>966741
You really hate it that much for $19?

>>966748
>guides are horrific and make a really nasty grinding noise when using braid
>had the line wrap around the guides several times
>less sensitive than an ugly stik maybe even less than cheap shakespeares

Maybe the guides are mono only? Either way it's really bad.

>>966750
Mine isn't bad at all. My only complaint is its action, but it was pretty sensitive and quiet when I was casting.

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What websites do you guys buy tackle from? Anyone just use amazon? Only place I could find pic related.

>>966746
caught one of these tonight in sydney harbour, average tasting but it ate my whole live bait which surprised me considering they were around the same size.

>>966767
If it fits in their mouth they'll eat it. I've seen dink snook caught on 9 inch spoolteks.

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>tfw have to start building a lure collection from scratch

Okay I can maybe understand why a crankbait is expensive, with the metal casting and painting and weighting and shit...

why the fuck does a SPOON cost like 10.99? It's a concave piece of fucking metal.

>>966792
Sponsorship, marketing, retailer, etc.

You can always go on eBay and find cheap Chinese shit for next to nothing. But I'll still pay $7 for a Mepps that I get snagged after 5 casts.

>>966758
Bass Pro, Cabela's, Tackle Warehouse, Dick's. Just sucks buying em online unless you can get free shipping or order a bunch of stuff at once.

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>>966758
I really don't think I'll ever buy another spoon from a store for as long as I live. Most likely never buy another lure at all, period. I have all the tools, skills, and access to materials needed to make anything I want in any color or pattern. Having the option of selling the extras to make a small profit is always a thing too. It is also fun.

The best part is that I can watch movies and stuff I'd normally be doing at the same time I'm making lures and flies.

>why the fuck does a SPOON cost like 10.99

I•S•H•Y•G•D•D•T

>>966797
>BassPro

Their online selection is surprisingly awful. Lots of lure brands and patterns not even listed.

>>966799
How do you get the split rings on?

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>>966823
Xuron 496 split ring pliers.

Before that, I used a knife, thumbnail, or screw driver (plus safety googles because they can fly pretty far!) Sometimes the parts you want to put together can wedge in and open it enough to slip on. The split ring pliers are a god send and you don't end up with flying split rings. I recommend everyone get one if they need to use split rings very often. Other brands have other built in "tools" along the jaws for crimping and cutting.

>>966792
What kind of spoon? Kastmasters? spoons are usually cheap

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>>966827
>>966792
This spoon I'd pay $10. It is big, looks like good quality. It is for trolling musky/pike or saltwater I suppose. I certainly wouldn't pay over $3 for a freshwater spoon intended for bass.

>>966829
Yeah those big pike/musky spoons are like $15+ for the good ones. The way I look at is at least with those They last forever. I just touch up the hooks before each trip and they work fine

So what are the cons of braid? All I've heard is that trout are line shy and you have to use a leader.

I've been thinking about giving it a go instead of mono because I like the idea of having no line stretch and lots of test strength to rip my lure out of weeds

>>966838
>no line stretch
>reduces casting distance
>very visible in the water compared to mono/flouro


That's all I can think of t b h. Braid has gotten pretty good in the last however many years. I run braid on almost everything now. Mono/flouro definitely still have their place though

>>966838
I use high visibility yellow for my braided. It is bright enough that even when night fishing I can easily tie knots and find it when there's no bad cloud cover. I still use mono leaders for a number of reasons.

>>966838
Pretty much this >>966840 but I'll add a couple things.

Braid isn't as smooth as mono, so the same diameter braid won't cast quite as far as if it were mono. But if you go from 10lb mono to 10lb braid, the casting distance will be so much better than braid because the line is lighter.

So that, then visibility which doesn't even matter for lots of species of fish but you can always use a flouro leader, lack of line stretch which I prefer because it is so much more sensitive but you have to be careful not to set the hook super hard, and besides that you just have to watch for fraying especially if you are fishing saltwater with sharp corals and rocks or some shit or going for toothy fish. Also braid is lighter and floats so it can make lures run shallower.

I think I have a post in the Pastebin about it. I love braid now. The sensitivity makes it so much better. I can run 20lb line on a combo I used to have 10lb mono on and have twice the strength while still being able to cast further than the 10lb mono and have more line capacity. Also braid lasts much longer than mono. If you fish a lot, mono starts to get weak and brittle within a few months while braid holds its strength for years if it doesn't get frayed. Along with that, it doesn't have the memory like mono where the line looks like a slinky when you cast. Feels gud when you land a fish that dug into weeds when you would've lost it if that same combo were still 8lb or 10lb mono.

>>966854
>you have to be careful not to set the hook super hard

I never thought of that, I bet you could catch a pair of fish lips if you really put your back into it

>>966859
It also depends on the type of hook you are using as to how hard you need to set the hook. Like a circle hook needs to be set with a slower steady pull, in order to get it to hook in the corner of the mouth when the fish turns, while other hooks need a sharp sudden pull.

>>966813
>BassPro
Their lure selection in store is pretty decent but not really great prices.
The rod selection in my BPS sucks. Sure, there's a bunch but they don't have any real decent rods. Try finding a 7' L 1-piece. I can find at least 2 or 3 in every small bait & tackle locally. There's always a few at Dick's. BPS, nothing....
Also the Berkley lightning I got from Wally World for $19 was $49-54 at BPS. If it weren't for the big ass Sebile swimmers for $4.88 instead of $19-39 I wouldn't have a reason to BPS

>>966838
>cons of braid
wind knots

>>966864
I'm still convinced those are just a myth.

>>966859
I'm sure you could. But once you get used to it, it's nice to get solid hook sets without having to completely rip the rod back.

Posting best means of carrying gear.

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>>966867
>just a myth
I can attest they are not. They suck but are usually fairly easy to untangle with a little patience. In a few months I'll be out again and take a pic.
Few months... fuck me

For what it's worth I've never got them fresh water with lighter braid and reels. Probably because ponds tend to be out of full gusts. Shoreline I get them fairly often.

Maybe I just suck.

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>>966875
It's always windy here and I have never gotten one. I also try to keep tension on the line which I think is the key to it.

>>966870
Pic4u

>>966877
Unless you boat I dont see how that's viable. And good luck bringing that out while wading on a river.

Surely it carries more but thats it- not really even necessary to bring all of that.

Also got utilities right on the vest like clippers

Those lews Mach II reels are on sale for $124.99 at tackle warehouse.

>>966891
The reel or the combo?

>>966882
It's not too bad. The 3700 bags are big but if you don't load them super heavy you can still carry them around easily. Unfortunately mine is packed with shit and weighs a ton so I either leave it in the car or set it down on the shoreline and walk without it for the most part.

>>966877
It may be on the previous retrieve I didn't have enough tension so line is slightly loose on the reel??
Usually when I get them I can hear and feel it as the knot passes through guides so it's happening right way.

>>966893
For shore fishing Id just go with a backpack with those plano boxes for shore fishing, with clippers and pliers maybe around my neck.

But the only option for wading would be a vest

>>966893
The reel

>>966899
I use a backpack when I'm wading

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>>966875
>>966867
I've had two wind knots. Both were in some pretty nasty wind. Both slipped right out because Spectra.

>24 Dodd knots slipped out too.

>>966900
That works but I guess you have to go back on shore to retie? Vest lets you do anything anywhere.

>>966864
Eh no line memory so that's not possible at all.
A legitimate cons:
Price and knot tying braid to mono

>>966867
They happen to me somewhat often, I don't think it is necessarily caused by wind either. Since the braid isn't as springy as the mono, it will "pile up on itself" when it is coming off the spool and going through the guides. Then you notice it when retreiving or on the next cast. I think it happens this way because it is never a problem with casting reels, only spinning.

>>966542
The rod I caught porgies on was relatively light for me, I could feel and see the pecks from the smaller guys.

>>966933
>not possible
Ehh, I do understand how it happens. Braid is light and the wind can blow it around much easier than mono or flouro. Plus it is so flexible that it can get knotted if you are careless and let a bunch of excess line blow around in a heavy wind.

>>966937
I only had it to me one time when I was on a boat in the middle of a reservoir and was trying to bomb heavy baits in the wind. It would always happen 10-12 ft away from the lure, shit was annoying

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>>966937
Also your cons:
>Price
Idk man, if you fish a lot and take care of your shit, it can actually end up being cheaper in the long run. A 300yd spool of good mono is like $7-$10, right? 300yd spool of good braid is around $30. So it's 3x-4x the price in the beginning.

But mono get weak so fast with sun and consistent use that you have to change it at the beginning of each spring minumum. Being down here with year round warm weather and sun, plus fishing 3 days a week, I would need to change my mono out every 6mos. Decent braid will last years. Tackle shop guy I trust said run it for 2yrs, unspool it, put it back on the opposite way, and you are good for another 2yrs. My oldest braid is like 4yrs old right now and shit is still goin strong.

>>966931
Nah man. Tuck my rod under my armpit. Then swing the bag in front of me, get what I need, swing bag back, tie, then fish. If I can't get something for whatever reason I'll walk back to shore, but its not really a big deal to do that in rivers/creeks.

I do have a have shirt that I like to use when wading that has some front pockets to keep a pack or two of soft plastics and my phone and stuff. I would probably rock a vest if I found a decent one, but the only time I wade is when it's hot and I don't want to be wearing one then.

>>966941
Im talking about spooling new reels in pure braid no mono backing. I had spooled my saltiga reel with braid costed me a pretty penny. (Still haven't caught anything with it either!)

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>>966964
I don't think anyone here mono backs their braid, it really isn't necessary at all especially on casting reels since they all have the hole to tie your line through to prevent slippage. Braid is better than mono in every way except how easily it knots, but you figure out how to avoid it with some experience anyways.

>>966993
rain's important anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LAVVGJtrRM

>tfw today was endless dink snook day

I just wanted one decent fish. The only thing I could get hits on were 3 inch gulp shrimp and DOA shrimp.

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>>967005
Lel I mentioned tying the knot through the hole on the memecaster spool a couple months ago and that one cunt who hates Pepsi because he stole his girl or whatever reason was like "what a retard!" and it has been working fine so far.

I do mono backing on some of the spinning reels but others like the Presidents have that little rubber strip on the spool and it grips the braid.

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>>967039
Pepsi only steals coffee grills.

>>967005
I have a couple of reels with a mono backing especially my older penn reels.

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>>967034
Atleast you were able to fish, spent a week working at resort and there were baby tarpon busting on minnows.

>>967054
For oldee reels I just wrap the spool in a piece of double sided medical tape.

>>967059
Sweet tip I'll switch over some of my levelwind reels to fully braid

>>967034
Too bad they are so polluted you can't eat them.

>>967084
>Too bad they are so polluted you can't eat them.
What are you talking about?

>>967091
Snook are some of the worst polluted fish.

https://www.google.com/search?q=snook+mercury

>>967096
I never eat them anyways, they're just really fun and challenging to catch.

>>966141

INCREAMS THE WOBBLING

>>966141
>recommending spin cast reels

Must be why people exclusively fish them in tournaments.

I hope that graphic is a joke meant to make people waste money.

>>967117
It wrecks of n/ZnkB9jUw and his hollow-stemmed mushroom theory.

>>967129
What?

Also spin caster tangle all the time that info graphic is out right lying. Ridiculous. Once the inside tangles up they are fucked. Not to mention the gears and pins are made of trash plastic

>>966231
>>966233

the $30 ugly stick lite pro or whatever it's called is a decent rod for the money, though i have no need for one. gx2's are heavy shit for plebs.

>>965956
>>966767
>>966787
That feesh doesn't know how big it is

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>>967049
Lel you know whats up.

>>966316

get both like i did. they're just about equal performers but i do like the curado's braking a bit better. the tatula ct's are cheaper online and word on the skreet is a new curado is on the way, as noted by the new chronarch.

SV spool has trickled down to tatula but that's 200 bucks which is chronarch money since the price drop/sale.

it's really impossible to go wrong.

if you really want to go crazy get a curado 200e7 online.

>>966316
>>967143
Honestly once you start spending 120 or more on a reel it's going to be hard to buy a total pile of shit. You may get a lemon or some bulls hit nearer to 100 dollars than 200 but just handle both and see what you like

If you put money down tackle warehouse will let you mail order in reels to try out for 7 business days and mail back or of you have spent over 500 dollars cumulatively with them. When you return the reel they give your money back

>>966504

literally mah nigga

>>966628

if you've got the time to carve or access to a stationary belt sander, making a cork handle into a split grip is pretty easy. just be careful not to cut into the blank.

once you go split grip it's hard to go back.

>>965950
No it isn't. You can't fish a ned rig with a cut down senko or a yum. It has to be a z-man plastic because the tails float up.

>>966875

if you've spent more than a few minutes on a wind knot and are convinced that you'll have to cut your line, before you cut it pull the knot as hard as you can, if possible with two pieces of wood or something where you won't cut your hands. it'll probably slip right apart.

sometimes 'wind knots' aren't from wind, fishing in heavily wooded areas and snags will sometimes get shit all fucked up when you're snatching out a lure out of brush and weeds.

>>967159
Usually if I have to pull it means the braid will break. maybe 50/50.

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>>966628
I made the grip by shaping first, then split it down the center and carved out a half pipe in both sides, then fit it back together around the handle. The butt I made by shaping the wood, then drilling into it until it fit on the end of the blank. I could have done it way nicer if I had access to a wood lathe or belt sander, but I'm kinda limited in the tools I can use currently.

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Any reccomendations for backpacking/travel rod for fresh/saltwater? Is penfishingrods worth it or even this?

>>967166
If you make another, just a drill as a lathe.

>>967167
Just get a 3 piece travel rod by st Croix or a 4 piece. Works way better. Stronger. Eyelets don't go out of alignment. Etc

>>967141
You get her the grind your beans yet?

>>967059
Try loading an 8000 reel with just braid. It's spendy. I mono back all my larger reels.

>>967060
levelwind
600-800 yds/each, no problem.

>>967159
Multi rods. If it's that bad I switch rods and deal with it later. I've yet to have to cut the line. Just takes patience sometimes & if the bite is on I don't want to be watching.

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Freshwater fags will never know the feel

>>967193
Nice.

I spent 7am to 5pm fishing in the on and off again rain, and hardly had any action. I also blew my booze budget on discounted rum and high doller bar beer so I didn't even have any Lonestars.

>>967193
Also stab that faggot.

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Whatever happened skid? Been gone for a while, did he kill himself after that one autism attack?

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>>967183
Lel nah not yet but I aint tryin to push it too fast. She had a bad experience with dude before so she was a lil weary at first but after Wednesday went well it seems better. Tomorrow we got some plans but that's only like the second time we get to hang out when neither of us are working.

>>967199
He transformed into a real life furry and now live in the woods away from civilization

>>967202
I guess he is living his dream.

>>967201
Needs more dead teeth.

Do y'all have a version of our Alamo drafthouse? It's a movie theater with extra comfy chairs, real food and booze. If so take her to a show at one of those.

Or find out what kind of music she is into and find a local band that y'all can go see that plays that style.

TThenat the end of the night when she has let her guard down, say in a low voice "I want to take your ass and fist it". If she says ok, you are good to go. If she is all like "what did you say", just play it off and tell her you said "I want to take you bass fishing".

Win win

>>967199
Yes

>>967155
Now that's a meme

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>>966522
>I'm out deep a lot so not sure how useful they would be.

damn bruh i used to have so similar a setup. except that can beer.
DI and 360° works to around 100'+ beyond that I rely on sonar to show marks. how deep do you fish? my use is mainly to mark fish, search for structure, find rockpiles, poop pipes, reefs and high or low spots the DI will show pretty much everything, Ive seen some shit...lol
SI i had a bunch of oh fuk moments. like unlocking a new level in a video game. couldnt get my head around it for a while, like too much information. had me talking to myself like "theres a car right there" or "is that a shopping cart?" or "feeesh! fucking drop!..drop!"
gotta take the good with the bad i guess..
thinking of selling the 7 and buy a big sized finder with chirp tho'

>>966741
nice snook bruh..

>>967232
That's a nice Bowfin setup you got there. They love trout

Biting is slow tonight. I'll take out the kayak in a bit and fish these canals.

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>>967005
its very common on larger reels (saltwater) the higher drag pressures can make braid shift and bind on a spool which in turn can snap a spool in half. ive personally seen it happen.

also the braid is better argument has been proven incorrect many times over. mono or at least a mono topshot is actually better in many situations.

>>967238
Lights. Live shrimp. Hook in head. 16" leader from float. Aim for the spot that the water just gets dark from the light.

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>>967141
bruh..italian roast beef please...
extra giardiniera.

>>967243
Finger Croaker work too, they are a natural predator of troat eggs so even if the trout isn't hungry they will still hit to kill the croaker.

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>>967201
is bepis pepsi?

also im going to the gulf shore this week for spring break, how do i catch saltwater stuff?

>>967251
>is bepis pepsi?
yes, for some reason

>>967251
Go to a pier and read
>>967249
>>967243

>>967199
He has been on and off. Disappears for a month or two and shit is nice and quiet but then he was just back for a couple days with his nonsense and overcomplicated tactics.

>>967259
He is getting regular dick now. You need to make up a few of those title screens for me to use once that barista starts to bend your ugly stick.

>>967262
Hmmm no give them to someone other than me, I have a lot of work coming up (and as hey wont let me drink on this job) I will be making up for it after work so I'll be no good for such tasks.

What if Pepsi doesn't post as Pepsi anymore because someone killed him and assumed his indemnity? This could all be a ruse.

>>967264
On the plus side I get 1 hour lunches and I'm right next to Cabelas.

>>967265
Fagot even took the time to break his trip code.

Also GET ON THE FUCKING PIER AND CATCH SOME TROUT.

>>967267
I swear to god I'll drive my drunk ass down there and show you how to fish salt, you bass happy faggot.

>>967269
Lol my buddy and I are just chillin right now. I'll go actually try in a bit.

>>967278
Night spec and sandies are retarded easy. OK y'all I got my buddy texting me to come over so I'll soon be to drunk for captchas. Night and see you 'round 7am

>>967269
I feel like you're one drunk Saturday night away from a murder suicide zuriss. You need to take a break from the booze man.

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>>967262
>>967264
Lel it isn't too complicated. Just copy the OP, link the last thread, change the bowfin title and thread #, and post a pic with a pretty grill fishin.

She needs to get out of that job with the shitty hours tho. She has degrees but just finished getting all the certs good to go in the US and has been applying. Once she gets that stuff figured out and starts coming to the crib more, I'm def gonna be slacking on this.

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>>967288
Suicide is for the weak desu.

From a sociopath Texan with love.

>>967293
That is a lot of work for this bitch ass phone poster.

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>>967296
I post from a phone too bitch ass nigga

>>967297
I would require an Android app that lets me do more than crop and I'm not looking that up.

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Pepsi will never know the feel

>>967302
More?

/fakespoiler fap fap fap fap /still fake

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>>967301
I went through like 5 iPhone apps before finding one that was simple enough and actually did the things I wanted (for free).

>>967313
I might make a bunch on my comp then transfer them to my phone.

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FRESHWATER FAGS WILL NEVER KNOW

*elitism intensifies*

>>967331

The joy of killing gamefish?

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>>965956
Lure from Chinkland? Got one myself but have yet to test it... is it any good?

>>967005
A truth with modifications... due to braid being less stiff I find it gets tangled up easier and the mess of a tangle is easier to sort out in mono than in braid.
Also on baitcasting reels (it's what they are called in English I think - see picture) braid has a tendency to dig in as >>967240 says.
And, at least for me, the first few meters of my line gets all flossy when using braid due to the beating it gets. I fish saltwater though so maybe that has some influence as well.

>>967331
Saltwater Elitists Utd.
Where do I sign up?

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Anyone know what is the deepest it's possible to troll a crankbait and how?

>>967331
I bet that red fought harder than a 5 pound bass.

>tfw only act elitist towards bepsi because he lives next to the ocean

>>967193
rare gulf bowfin, well done

>>967380
It fought like a carp on steroids lol. Super fun in a yak.

All my specks were dinks, but I liked catching them the best.

I missed two really good fish. One broke me off and I couldn't get a hook set on the other one because the wind was pushing me into a dock. I would've stayed out longer if the weather wouldn't have gotten shitty.

>>967387
Kek

>>967357
Most normal sized baits with large bills usualy max out around 20'-40' at the most. I know at Gander they have over sized crank shaped baits with giant bills that we use to troll in Canada in 100'+ water for pike

>>967408
What kayak are you using? I've been eyeing a hobie outback or angler for a while

>>967413
It wasn't my yak and I didn't ask who made it. Sorry anon.

>>967331
Noice

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Why is this thread on page 2?

>>967497
Honestly. These nigs must be fishin. I'm just waiting for 309 over here

>>967498
>tfw still raining
>still flooding

>>967501
>tfw beautiful outside and should be fishin this afternoon but vagina has me rethinking muh priorities
I'm a lost cause guise

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>>967497
>week long cold temps after some spring-like weather past month
>might get ton of snow tuesday
>next week majority of streams are closed before trout season opens next month
Right now im just looking for more spots to explore.
Got this field report that the state did for wild trout streams and im currently just marking spots on google maps to scope out good parking and whether or not the land is posted/private.

I kind of hate how some really nice spots that are hidden away are posted, but i guess that compliments the fact that it stays a nice spot over time.

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>>967503
>have job
>make money
>provide food
>provide shelter
>try to go fishing
>"you lazy good for nothing!"

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>>967505
>I kind of hate how some really nice spots that are hidden away are posted

This is a legit tactic to protect your secret spot. It doesn't matter who owns the land. No one ever takes the signs down if you put them up, but other fishermen usually stop at the signs.

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>>967511
Damn that's a good idea putting up your own signs. Best fishin holes are always the private ones where other people don't go.

>>967506
Lel that's why I haven't even offered to take her fishing. If shit goes anywhere, that's gonna be my "me time".

Maybe I should show her the snek pics today

>>967511
i just leave the enterence to most of my fishing spots incredibly overgrown , then 20-30 ft into the brush on whatever path im making i clear it out easy enough
no one ever botherspushing through a bunch of overgrown bushes and thorns

one post closer to 309

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>>967529
I think I should apply for this job...

>>967515
That Poor bowfin

>>967534
Do you have a cdl licence?

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