Homeless General

>>965356
Kys

>>965365
My man!

How did you end up being a bum? Is it by choice? Are you a drug addict?

what city?

>>965381
i am actually addicted to internet porn
i watch it on my pocket pc from the back of petro truck stops.
i pay for the wifi password so i get the high speed.

>>965383
what do you mean

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>>965356
Asking again from last thread, can you buy a small lot of land and just live in an RV on it? Seems safer than juggling walmart parking lots

I guess that wouldn't count as homeless anymore, would it?

>>965409
you probably could but there may be some weird regulations depending on where you're at. idk what isnt safe about parking in a giant brightly lit parking lot with security cameras covering every side of your vehicle, though.

>>965399
what city do you bum around in?

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>>965411
i've been in Tulsa OK for a little bit now hanging out with a couple anons from /out/ but im all over the place. been traveling homeless for 5 years. i have a school bus now, though.

>>965419
i have a friend (more of an acquaintance) that i knew in high school. he hangs with the local Detroit homeless and is himself as well (i think). he posts on facebook when he gets into libraries or gets access to the internet from time to time. interesting stories sometimes.

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>>965356
>anons talking shit about crossing the country at your own pace taking in breathtaking vistas normalfags can only save as desktop backgrounds

Fuck normalfags, you're alright OP.

>>965356
How do I join hobo rape gangs?

>>965463
In the same vein, how do I become a hobo rape gang victim?

Which cities have the most homeless women? I don't think I've ever seen one that wasn't middle-aged.

>>965410
Niggs

>>965419
I live in Tulsa. Where you at? I wanna kick your ass because your worthless trash.

>>965642
staying on an empty lot next to 303 W 1st St
come fight me pussy you don't stand a chance

Money seems to only really be needed for luxury, being that basic needs can be covered for free or extremely cheaply.

So how do you get money?

If you busk, what do you preform?
If you work, what job?
If you beg, how often?
If you do something else, would you specify?

Also, how much do you work and how is the pay?

>>965617
I saw two homeless girls once. They weren't cute but at least they were in their twenties. They were just passing through though. I think most """""homeless"""""" girls will be trustfund vagabonds.

>>965642
11th and Harvard my dude.

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>>965670
I busk and panhandle. Mostly busk. Pay for me is generally anywhere from 15-40 an hour. I don't tend to just sit around and stack up money, but I have a bit banked away. Usually just do my thing until i get what I need and then split, but I will busk all day/night in the right place.

>>965715
Homeless traveling chicks are either in a girl pack or dick riding. There are definitely plenty of trusty crusties, though they mostly just end up dick riding too because they got with some guy who convinced them to spend $30k/yr on heroin and booze for the rape gang. If a chick wont keep her legs closed she gets used up real fuckin fast. Bad news. I know some really hardcore and cool traveling girls though, one of them stabbed a trucker.

>>966237
Do you actually have a bank account? If so, are you paying taxes?

Ive been considering driving from chicago to either florida or california and just living out of my car and sustaining myself via uber or something for a bit as a change of pace.

>>966525
No.

>>966564
>uber or something
Sounds airtight man

>>965356
I've always wanted to start travelling to just start hitchhiking or just driving as far as I can go.

Is it a bad idea OP? The only real thing keeping me from it at this point are A: How to get food/make money to get food. And B: Where/how to sleep assuming I don't have a car or somewhere in doors to make it to.

I wish I could be homeless :(

Too bad my family would never allow something to occur even if I did it purposefully

They'd be devastated, hire private investigators, and drag me right back to the mansion... sigh... I'm so tired of playing WoW and golfing every day...

>>966691

>Food
Dumpsterdive or use what money you get to eat cheap. Also, whitebox (ask people coming out of resturaunts for their leftovers).
>Shelter
Tent, sleeping bag, tarp. There are forests and unused lots and abandoned buildings everywhere. Sleep where you can't be seen. If you have to, just get up early to avoid workers.

>>965397
2D or 3D?

>>966691
>A)
Check out some foraging/trapping/survival books at the library. You'd be surprised how much food is growing right out of the ground or swimming in the same places that you already go to wash up.
Dumpsters aren't about half eaten hotdogs, usually you'll find perfectly good, individually wrapped food; grocers will throw shit out just because the manufacturer changed the label.
You can probably get foodstamps, and it'll usually work out of state.

>B)
I always feel safer when I'm away from cities; people are definitely the most dangerous thing you'll encounter. If you have to stay in a city, don't bed down until after dark, and make sure you're up before the sun is. It's a lot easier to roll out a blanket or bivvy than it is to set up a tent in the dark, lower profile, too. Long term homebums will usually make their shelter look like a pile of old trash that blew up against a building, that's not insanity, it's urban camouflage.

tldr; fuck being 'homeless', be a professional vacationer! Camp, fish and swim, and do it someplace warm!

That tick thread has me scared. How do you guys without vehicles, especially the ones who sleep in bushes, avoid getting ticks?

>>966793

Tell them you're going out

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I became vagabond so that I could ski and rock climb. I did some of that, but most of my days though, I'm so lonely and depressed that I browse 4chan all day.

>>967846
High deet bug spray

>>967865
Then go back to your box. There are video games and other childish time-fillers waiting for you.

Do u think a gun is Best defense for traveling homeless?
I've been considering getting a crossbow.

>>967916
Your brain. It keeps you out of stupid situations so you dont have to worry about things like that.

>>967916
while this anon >>968022 does have a point, it is better to have it and not need it, then vise-versa when it comes to self-defense.

long and short, get a gun (crossbows are awkward, and don't allow for quick follow-up shots if needed).

if your vehicle-mobile a 12 or 20 gauge short shotgun

if your foot mobile a small caliber handgun is what I would recommend. if you can scrap the cash for one, a .38 "pocket" revolver of some breed are good, low maintenance, light weight options.

do note, if you carry, make sure your doing it legally (especially a pistol of some type). I can't imagine the local Constabulary is going to be too merciful to someone who's homeless and packing heat without a permit.

>>968141
Having a gun while traveling homeless is absolutely pointless unless you are hunting. It will only get you into trouble.

>>968141
>it is better to have it and not need it...

Same thing applies to a plate carrier, grenades, morphium, night vision goggles, Claymore mines and a kitchen sink.

>>967865
This

>>968152
>kitchen sink
Only when boars are around

>>968141
What if having a gun is not an option.

>>967865
>confused

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>>967916
Nah, you better bring a gau-8 to make sure the other bums fear your brrrrrt more than they need to take your shitstained sleeping bag.

In all honesty, you don't need a fucking thing. If you're gonna be a sperg and you've already decided the entire world is out to hurt you when you leave your front door then get a dog and a padlock in a sock. The dog can be had for free on Craigslist and a padlock and a sock will cost you all of 5 dollars.

Happy trails

>>967865
>I
Dude if you know a few spots to hit,rock climbing, ill go with you I'm trying to get into that life. I have a harness and a small amount of equipment, hit me up at [email protected]. Seattle bumming right now if your in the area. BTW offers open to others in anyone is interested.

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>tfw nothing in life makes me happy
>Keep thinking I should become a hitchhiker.

I mean, if it doesn't work out I could always come back to my usual life

>>969640
Im 20 yo about to turn 21 living in LA.

How do I into homelessness.

I slept this one time in Arcadia it was cool.

How do I get food also cuz I don't work and don't eat.

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I have 500 dollars to my name.
Im near retarded and i need to leave forever. Im going insane. Ive been homeless before.


Whats a good place to be homeless in?
Seattle? Houston? Portland?

>>969678
My big sweaty cock

>>969675

Anon, I've never been homeless. I'm just thinking of doing it because life no longer seems valuable.

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>>968983
just go to yosemite like everyone else man

>>969640
do it faggot.

>>969675
go to SF to haight ashbury and get dosed, go from there.
serious answer is to GTFO the city and start hitching out of cali. this is a good time to start heading north, hit oregon and washington in the summer. some of us /out/ists are hitting the national rainbow gathering in july in oregon, could be a good place to start. as far as food you need to panhandle it, dumpster dive, hit community/bum feeds and food pantries. all the official shit you can get schedules for at your local salvation army. eating is the easiest thing about being on the road. absolutely nothing to worry about if that's your only concern.

>>969678
you don't want to be stationary homeless. you need to travel. being a home bum is a worthless and shitty existence. do not ever do it. get a backpack and enough shit to sleep with, nothing more, and go for it.

I have a question for homeless people who stay in one place for a long period of time.
I walk to work in a city and see the same homeless people a lot of the time. Do you guys recognize us normies with houses and remember us? Do you have opinions on them, like "oh it's that fucker again" or "look it's that other guy, he seems nice" or donyou just kinda ignore us?

>>969789
any home bums you see every day are burnt out useless husks of people. they don't care about shit and are more often than not completely addicted or insane. they will never recognize you because they just do not give a fuck beyond whatever you give them. home bums also are not /out/ at all, and like i said previously if you are living that life you are fucked. there is no way around this.

>>969778
Anon.
Me and a buddy are gonna go bumming from august to whenever. Been backpacking alot, but not really bummin.
Mind giving me a packlist?
Good web communities online?

Any eurofags here?
We're gonna start in Copenhagen and head south. And maybe west.

Love,
Anon

>>969793
du(u)de there has to be an underylind moral code that is recognizable.

what is /out/'s opinion of the perfect vagabond?

>>969841
Nah. Between the drug addiction and the mental illness most stationary homeless seem to have there are very few morals of any kind.

>>969841
Does there? There isnt. Home bums are shit.

>>965356
I just bought a sweet camper trailer with all modern amenities. My intent is to live in it and buy a house in a few years with all the $ I save by not paying rent.

Am I technically homeless if my comfy home has wheels and can be parked next to a lake, canyon, or river for good times?

>>969793
I'm not a homebum exactly, but I'm a journeyman. I'll stay here and there for a month or two at a time and I really enjoy people watching.

If you aren't burned out like >>969793 pointed out, you might start to recognize select people. If people interact with you or have some distinct feature, you will recognize them. You form opinions of people just like anyone else you see semi-regularly.

>>970185
Meant for >>969789


Also, I don't see why people dislike homebums so much. City homebums, maybe. I've met a lot of homebums who are very nice and intelligent people. Some are fairly burnt out, but not all. Most just sit around and read.

The thing is, if they are smart homebums then you either can't tell they are homebums or at least they sleep somewhere safe and out of view.

>>970188
>>970185
Breh you are inexperienced. It's ok. We dislike home bums like 4chan dislikes niggers. It's not an all inclusive thing, but fuck if we wont talk like it is. There are plenty of wingnuts and home bums who are a big hoot to be around, doing and saying crazy harmless things. Some of them are even appear sane. There are way more, however, that are shitty piss smelling bridge trolls who fly a sign all day in between going to get meth/heroin/booze. I'm not sure why you're so sure they remember you. I can tell you 100% they do not. It speaks to your inexperience that you've not realized this regardless of what life you live. It's all good though, you can like home/shelter bums as much as you want my man, save em, they're all for you. Personally I can't stand people who will not better their own situations and sit around in filth, bugs, vomit and shit just to fly a sign at the off ramp to fund their addictions. Different strokes, I guess.

Btw you can always tell a home bum. Always.

>>968703
I love you. Nohomo

I didn't know the Hoboian society was so stratified!

>>970433

When marx was talking about class struggle he really meant the conflict between the Car-Having Upper Strata of homeless and the Meth Smoking, Bridge living underclass.

>>970433
There are way too many subcategories man.

>>970434
>car having upper strata
Thats called upper crust

>>970441

>When a bourgeiomobile talks down to you

I swear, once the hobos of the world sober up we're going to rise up!. On an unrelated note, can you spare a dollar?

>>970445
Yes. Give me a paypal/address

>>970010
Not homeless, your home just has wheels.

>>965410
1-nobody is looking at those security cameras
2-those cameras aren't even real, just props to deter criminals half the time
3-giant lot = longer time for any help to come and more time for thieves to run
4-clerks will harass you if they notice you living there and start coming inside for restrooms
How do I know this? I am that clerk calling cops on your faggot asses. Customers and higher ups don't exactly welcome your kind.

>>965409
many states forbid living in RVs. You can however live in a shed.

>>971233
Youre a faggot is what you are. Get fucked, and stop spreading lies on the internet. You know how i know? Three years of fucking living in walmart parking lots. Eat a dick you fearmongering hateful wagecuck.

>>971233
>states
Source
>cities
Yes

>>971236
>I'm lucky so everyone else is
Come to my store in Santa Ana and we'll see

>>971239
Big bad walmart clerk gonna get me after all these years? Buddy ive lived at walmarts in every state but Maine, Alaska and Hawaii. Know how many times ive had the cops called on me? Fucking never my man. I dont care how big of a stick youve got up your ass, but being a shitbird bitter little bitch who feels he needs to go out of his way to cop call on people minding their own business can never be considered a good thing. Kindly, eat a dick.

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I'm "homeless" in Japan, in the technical sense. I have no fixed address and live out of a backpack.

But I also have $13000 to my name, and entered on a 1 year working visa, so I can take up a job if I want.

I get by by staying at farms or inns, getting food and shelter in exchange for labor. Right now I'm down south in the Kyushu region because it's still only early spring.

Next week I'm getting an Airbnb in Miyazaki city, so I can go have some fun. After that I'll hitchhike north to Oita and catch the ferry to Shikoku.

Pictured is a beach in Miyazaki. Today I bought a backpack sized fishing rod, and the 60yo innkeeper I'm staying with now will teach me some fishing techniques. some time next week.

>>971242
Bruh, send me a post card. Also im glad to hear youll be moving around more soon.

>>971240
>still mad
You're still wrong about walmart being a safe place to park lol

>>965356
what is rape gang galores and can you greentext your experience?

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>>971233
>>965410

Original asker of the question here, what I meant by "Seems safer than juggling walmart parking lots" was more worrying about transit between places. Constantly worrying where you can go, buying gas and repairs, refugees attacking you on the highway etc.

>>971242
yo woopdy fucking doo dude arent you just living the best life ever?
like what the fuck dude are you the happiest person

>>971257
Not really, no.

I feel lost. Hence, I wander.

>>971260
you honestly sound like your living a life i could only dream of and im being serious. I hope you find whatever your looking for dude.

>>971257
is
>>971263
>bipolar

>>971263
I had no debt, no girlfriend, I was between educations, and had a part time job that let me take 280 hours a month.

So I wormed my ass off for half a year, scraped some money together, sold all my shit and grabbed my backpack.

The freedom is frightening.

>>971267
Frightening but beautiful. I live in the southern portion of the United States and I feel like this would be a great thing to do with myself. I dont really have any goals at this point and I would love to see all of the country. Any general self defense tips? Is buying a gun a must?

>>971276
If your first question is in regard to safety and whether to bring a gun, you won't get far.

And no. I carry a big ass knife now sharpened to Japanese standards, but it's securely in the bottom of my backpack.

Just sleep innawoods and don't look valuable.

>>971246
I'm really not. You are either a fuckin idiot or you never leave the house if you truly believe there's legitimate danger there for someone sleeping in their vehicle. I speak from years of experience, you're just shitposting.

>>971249
Man it's just what it sounds like, a gang that rapes you. I may get around to greentexting some shit some time but I don't really do that much. Mostly just here to answer questions and put people's minds at ease about the perceived danger or whatever they may be worried about.
I'll give you a little backstory
>left parents house at 16 to live innasquat for 2 years
>lived a couple other places around the country 18-20
>end up working a real shitty job, quit to start hitching
>hitch to lake michigan
>end up at this 51 year old retired dude's lake house
>he buys me johnny walker blue and gives me some weed, says i can sleep on his beach and he's throwing a carnival over the weekend
>ok.jpg
>chill on beach a couple days getting drunk and swimming
>weekend rolls around, sure enough he's wheeling in rides and shit
>big ole party of lake people all weekend
>couple grills my age, bang one
>sends me off in Milwaukee after the weekend with another bottle
Decided never to stop after that. Been at it 5 years now. Hitched for two, ended up with a car, then a bus. I make money panhandling and busking while traveling all around the country.

>>971276
Come to Tulsa and get the crash course. I just sent a kid out of here hitching for his first time. He's in Long Beach right now having the time of his life.

>>971280
We live in very different places Japanon. I'm sure you know that U.S. crime is far worse than in the Nippon. I wouldn't bring anything visibly valuable along with me that would be foolish. Maybe a gps and a music player.

>>971286
Is there some kind of secret club there or something? I live in TX so it wouldn't be too long a journey.

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>>971526
I am bringing people from /out/ here to the spot im staying with another /out/ist.
If you want to start journeying, i can show/tell you basically everything you need to know and give you a place to get out of whatever situation youre in and on your way to traveling. Ive already brought one kid from /out/ here and helped a dozen other traveling kids/kids who want to get into it. Youll have to shoot me an email if you want more info. We also dont want anyone over 30, so sorry if thats you.

[email protected]

>>971542
How long do you plan on keeping the thing together? Would you still be there in say a year and a half?

>>971556
In a year and a half i can be anywhere i want. Just keep in touch and when youre ready ill help any way i can.

>>971556
Why do you only take people under 30?

>>971561
House rules. Generally dont think too highly of 30+s wanting to live and learn with <27s. Dont need any weirdness going on as theres only so much i can tell from emails and shit. Also if youre older than me you can do this shit without my help. Honestly lurking the threads will tell you everything you need to know, after that you just start walkin.

>>971565
Ok that makes sense but the 30+ exclusion sort of sets up red flags.

>>971570
Kek i dont care at all. If someone is too scared/worried to come visit some /out/ists, stay for free, get drunk, stoned, eat etc. for free then this probably is not the right life for them.

Be sure to locate and tag your local scumbags, its your duty to civilized society.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmnVWhX1d-Y

>>971584
A bunch of strangers getting drunk and stoned together sounds like an unpredictable mess.

>>971957
Also sounds like fucking fun pussy.

>>972140
I do both those things with friends on a semi-regular basis so you can't really call me a pussy, just sensible. Enjoy getting stabbed or beat up and fucked with.

>>971584
Why are you scared of people over 30?

>>971240
>Bragging about being homeless

Is this real life?

>>972169
Stay away from the gay orgies paps.

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>>971957
Are you missing something here? If you dont like the idea of meeting new people, you can stay home. Its okay anon.

>>972169
A better question may be why does the 30 something feel like he needs direction from kids 10ish years his junior? I keep old fucks away because i want to hang out with people my own age. An 18 year old being a faggot around my stuff is way different than a 38 year old being a faggot around my stuff. If you cant grasp this, i cant help you.

>>972177
My life is fuckin amazing anon, you should try it. Beats the brakes off any kind of normie life as far as im concerned. Ive been to every state but maine, hawaii and alaska. Ive lived /out/ for 5 years. Ive never wanted for anything as long as ive been on the road. Always have enough money and stuff to share with whoever i meet. The good times roll.

Anyone know of a homeless legal wiki? I'm trying to find notes to carry that are applicable to travelers.

some advice for noobs

carrying around a fishing rod is complete bullshit, so instead buy one when you need it and after you've fed yourself, return it the next day. Seems shitty, but you're not in this to be shining pillar of citizenship, you're in this to get free shit with minimal effort.

showering is simple. Approach a truck driver at a truckstop who is fueling. Both Pilot and Love's offer free showers to truckers who buy fuel. a lot of truck drivers don't bother with showering at all so they won't mind sending one your way.

Learn a few simple recipes and sell shishkebabs and fried oreos out of a parking lot.

Oregon is probably the easiest state to get an EBT card. You can usually get one the day you show up. seriously it's ridiculous. If you spend that 200 dollars to make food that you turn around and sell you will basically be loaded.

If you're down on your luck you can offer to wash dishes at a local mom and pop restaurant for food. this worked for me maybe 20% of the time. You never actually have to do the dishes either.

>>972345
What do you do that for money and sustenance? I'd disagree, my life is going smashingly. Just moved in with 2 friends, bought a new motorcycle and am going overseas with the military.

>carrying around a fishing rod is complete bullshit
Into the trash you go. The fact that later in your post you talk of feeding yourself with EBT and never touch community feeds, spanging, food pantries or dumpster diving speaks volumes to your experience.

>Learn a few simple recipes and sell shishkebabs and fried oreos out of a parking lot
This is horrible advice. What normies have you met that would buy some sketchy cooked food from some hobo in backpack out of a fuckin parking lot? Why the hell did you even come up with this? Spanging, flying a sign or busking in some way will completely shit all over this and you have the added benefit of not standing around like a moron wondering why no one wants your shiskebabs.

>Oregon is probably the easiest state to get an EBT card
Any state but Kansas. You are suspect af anon. Humor me with a crust check because all the shit you posted here except the showers is just not the right way to go about being homeless. Not to mention if anyone notices that you're turning around selling food you bought with EBT that's your ass.

>If you're down on your luck you can offer to wash dishes
If you're not completely inept and lacking common sense you will never be down on your luck enough to need to try and wash dishes.

>>972418
I play music and panhandle. I'm not going point for point with you on who's life is better, but it'd be good for you if you'd lurk moar. Then you'd already know my life is goat, but talking about tying yourself into leases and signing your life away to the military to a hobo is pretty pointless my man. I'll take my freedom over that any day.

>>972345
Why would you assume anyone wants direction from you? You are a homeless beggar who spends his time getting high, drunk and begging. You certainly haven't got anything figured out in your own life

>>972438
Shitpost harder anon you're in the big leagues now.

>>972438
I don't assume. I've put 8 kids on the road who now love their lives. I've helped countless people to better their situations. Hell, I've met 3 people from /out/ so far just from doing these threads. One of them lives in his van traveling and playing music all over the country and these threads were an inspiration to him. Like it or not, I'm making a difference. You can be as salty as you want famalam.

>>972437

can it, sperg everything I stated is tried and true and was learned from my excursion on the road and from fellow travelers. I actually fried shishkebabs with an old deadhead and always came out ahead but then again I'm approachable and not a dirty dreaded rainbow kid faggot who uses the word "spange". Admittedly I don't know much about EBT systems in other states, just that a single mother in Indiana had to wait two weeks to get one while I got mine in under an hour.

And who the fuck wants to carry around a fishing pole? That space could be better used if you take my advice and get refunds on everything you can.

>If you're not completely inept and lacking common sense you will never be down on your luck enough to need to try and wash dishes.

I sound suspect? Have you ever tried panhandling in Wyoming?

>>972451
Fuck yes I have, and you just went the extra mile in proving that no one should listen to you. It's all good anon, thanks for sharing. It's unfortunate that you truly believe your 'tried and true' ways are good enough. I'm not about to get in some pissing match with someone who obviously is coming at this from the complete wrong angle. I already said in my last post that I have your number, you can't hide your inexperience.

Also I think it's really funny that you talk about liking old deadheads and not young ones. Really speaks volumes to anyone who knows anything about this subject.

>>972456
elitist hippies are the worst. you're just offended someone actually succeeded at providing an actual service instead of blowing into a didgeridoo. Pathetic.

>I'm not about to get in some pissing match

because you're a faker and a pussy

>>972461
Damn anon you are butt blasted. Sorry you're such a lame ass that you can't recognize better advice than yours. These threads get filled with enough shitposts without me wasting posts trying to make you feel better about being BTFO. I invite you to lurk moar, post less, and pull your head out of your ass.

>>972437
>I play music and panhandle

tfw can't play music because finger dexterity is shit

>>972467
shouldn't you be shaking a maracca at a shell right now? get back to work hobo

>>972469
Is music something you want in particular? I can think of more than a few instruments you can get into that don't require finger dex. There are lots of ways to busk, too. I've met people who juggle, paint, make crafts, even solve rubics cubes for dollars. The sky is the limit and pretty much any skill you have can be turned into money making on the road.

>>972437
I'm refuting your claim that your life is awesome and I should try it. I'm just saying I'm going to have a long and successful life filled with most any extravagance I want along with getting paid to travel. Different strokes for different folks.

>>972481
>I'm going to have a long and successful life filled with most any extravagance I want along with getting paid to travel
But anon, me too! Nah but I'm right there with you, different strokes. I'm not here to convince people to become bums, just to give my fellow autist channers a chance to experience something new if they want to. The things I do are impossible to realize or know about unless you have an in, so I do these threads to give people who feel stuck and idolize the vagrant lifestyle an idea of what it means to throw your box life away for travel. It's most definitely not for everyone.

>>972484
Well I wish you luck. Stay safe.

>>972487
You too m8

How you rocking computer, if your homeless?

>>972493
It's a cell phone. My three most expensive possessions are my guitar, cell phone, and my school bus. I've been doing this a long time, plenty of time to save up for a couple of nicer things when you're homeless.

>>972440
>homeless, wasted, begging
>the big leagues

>>972520
Oh, you

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>>972473
Do you think a sword master can somehow make money with his skills? It isn't sharp, it's more like an artistic thing (think like dance).
pls respond

>>972582
Haha, yes. Do it fgt. You can make money doing literally anything on the street. Hell, old home bums make money yelling at everyone and shaking a cup around. Just think of the dosh you'll get when some yuppies are impressed at the beauty of your katas! If it doesn't work out, you can always just beat some crack slinger half to death with it and take his money.

I would think though that a sword master of such skill would be better served by his blade by passing down his legendary skills in some mcdojo somewhere. Maybe you can get the light saber kids in the park to pay you 5 bucks to show em some moves.

>>972588
Lol. Honestly I'm not a master (maybe in 10 years) but they don't know that. *wink*
Thanks though, that alleviates the burden of finding somethning ado for moni

>>972473

I'd like to learn an instrument, yes. My hands are large enough but they instantly cramp up when attempting anything dexterous.

>>972608
Just remember things like that works best when there's some sort of schtick. Hit comic cons, find out local tabletop game nights wherever you are etc. The more people you get around, the higher the chance someone appreciates it and pays you. Don't be afraid to draw people in first, find some tricks to do that you can say something like, "Hey ma'am, wanna watch me cut this golf ball in half in midair for 2 bucks?" get as creative as you like.

>>972633
Harmonica, cajon, gutbucket bass, washboard, spoons, jaw harp come to mind immediately as things you could learn to jam with basically anyone you'd ever meet. Hand drums are $$$ on the road, doumbek, jimbei etc. but you can't really play them with someone jamming acoustic guitar like you could a cajon/washboard/spoons. The first 9months i was on the road all i had to play was a shitty hippy drum and i'd average $80 a night.

>>972649

>Harmonica

That actually sounds really neat. I completely forgot about it.

>>972686
Learn the harmonica in a few keys, learn the jaw harp, and get yourself a kazoo and you have enough right there to compliment almost any acoustic music youd ever come across. If you do decide to learn an instrument, the most important part is to just play every single day. Even if you think you suck and think it wont go anywhere, push through it and keep playing. You WILL get better. The first six months I played guitar all I could do was play G, C, and Am all wrong. I was pretty constantly alone in that time too which didnt help at all, but I eventually got comfy with playing those the right way, figured out Fm, Em, D. After about a year and 2 months I began to be able to sing the songs I had been playing. Now I have enough content to play sets on top of jamming on the street. I make almost all my money playing music. Gotta start somewhere.

>>967865
Dave? Is that you?

>>972795
No, it is Dave's cousin Ramon. Dave is dead. Blood clot.

>>972582
That sounds autistic as fuck anon.

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>>972588
fucking kek

>>972484

> I'm not here to convince people to become bums

Yet you have hundreds of posts trying to do just that. Are you trying to convince others to be a hobo to feel better about your own bad choices or are you just bored and need a purpose in life so you pretend like you are helping people?

>>973097
Your stats are a little bit skewed there my man. I dont do anything but give answers and for the more serious anons i have em come around and hang out and learn the ropes. There is no convincing people to live this life, it has to be something you want already. Many people who want to do this simply have no idea how to do it. Thats where i come in.

>>973097
>Yet you have hundreds of posts
You do realize that just because multiple posts are authored under the name 'Anonymous', that it isn't all written by the same person... right?

There's a lot of people who make the choice to live /out/ instead of only going every fourth weekend, and those of us that have made that decision tend to want to share our stories with other people who don't find satisfaction in the consumerist lifestyle.

>your own bad choices
I get why you think that we failed at life, or that we don't have the intellectual capacity to succeed, but the people you think of when you imagine 'homelessness' aren't the same people that are advocating traveling.

The real reason I choose to live the way that I do is because unless you're very rich, money is a burden, a method of forcing voluntary servitude. Society lies when they tell you that you can save up for retirement; take a look at the spending power of the US dollar, it decreases by a factor of 50% every twenty-three years on average, that means that if you put a dollar in savings today, you effectively have a quarter by the time you'd pull it out to retire on. You'll end up spending your entire life working for a dream that you'll never be able to realize.

How difficult is it to busk in smaller towns? Gonna do some traveling on my bike soon, and I want to avoid big cities. First time doing something like this.

>>973142
You definitely come across as someone who desperately needs to be at the center of attention.

>>973145
It's obviously the same guy, he hasn't even contributed any actual advice. Learn to play an instrument is some 101-tier shit. No pictures of this guy's supposed bus either. Reeks of role playing.

>>973146
Big cities are shit m8. Small towns are great, hit college towns and find the downtown areas. Many of these places have either never seen or see traveling buskers very rarely so you end up getting a pretty good rap. If you have any sort of route planned, I'll give you some towns to stop off at that i personally know are good.

Just avoid the big cities though, they are way more of a pain in the ass than necessary. Also, they have the huge home bum populations so the locals idea of homelessness tends to be bridge bums who push around shopping carts and fly signs on the off ramps every day. They will lump you right in with those bums and you wont be able to make much money.

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>>973149
Going to be riding the transamerica bicycle trail and then go up the east coast to Maine.

>>973148
You're some kind of new faggot aren't you anon? I posted my bus with my email, which i post in every thread. Lurk moar, be less salty you confused little shitbag.

>>973152
And you talk like how a redditor thinks someone from 4chan would talk too.

>>973151
if i'm not mistaken that stops in Missoula on your map? That's a great town. Going down through wyoming it looks like you will hit Casper and Cheyenne, both great spots. Cheyenne is a train town where you may run into some cool hobos. Basically all of CO is good to go, Ft. Collins, Loveland, all the developed land down to Denver is great for this shit. Kansas is kinda lame, there's not really shit in the western part of the state. Looks like the western dot is around Salina, it's a college town. Then it looks like the other is around Pittsburgh which is another college town. Solid. Southern MO is mostly hicks and woods, it's perfect for you. The rest of that ride is going to be a bit more sparse but it looks good, then once you get to the coast you're golden man. It will be a fun trip, good on you.

>>973154
I fucking wonder why that is. What are you even autistically screeching about anyways? I'm not a role player, or a same fag. I have been doing these threads for a year, maybe a bit more. Anyone that comes around knows me, knows my writing to the point where I get called out in other threads. If you think i'm a bullshitter, you're just plain wrong famalam.

Also
>you have to go back

>>973160
Let me take a guess: your dad kicked you out because he got sick of you always talking like a fag?

>>973146
Depends on how skilled you are and what level of showmanship you present. Smaller towns tend to be close-knit and have a few local heroes, they generally aren't impressed with someone who couldn't reasonably be considered the best at something in a group of a few thousand. If you are though, it's pretty good.

>>973164
I posted my backstory, and once again, you have to go back if you can't handle even these simplest of bants.

>>973165
Don't forget if you go too rural you'll just wind up surrounded by inbred tweakers. MT, KS, and MO are particularly bad in that aspect. Many times it's worth it to just hang out in the college town til you have enough dosh to see yourself to the next one and not worry about it.

>>973142
>There is no convincing

Let's hope not but your glorification of bum life while denigrating normal people shows your intent and you post multiple times per day for over a year so thousands of posts would be accurate.

You clearly lack a purpose in life so if it makes you feel better to recruit more vulnerable people to an early death rock on you degenerate faggot

>>973171
I wonder, do you even try to know people or do you just push your shit perspective onto everyone around you? I don't denigrate anyone, except shitbags like you who have nothing better to do than try and derail content with shitposts and bring absolutely nothing but salt to the table. I don't glorify anything either, everything I say I have lived, I have. The fact that you see glory in my posts is a call back to the part of your brain that knows the rest of you is full of shit. The people I have put on the road are absolutely rocking it out. You have no idea, and you likely never will due to your brain being all full of fuck. By all means, continue shitposting anon. Everyone needs an outlet.

>>973171
The fact that /hg/ gets a higher percentage of posts on Mondays than any other day speaks volumes about why it's been such an enduring thread. There's a lot of people that want to believe that they'd be happier if they gave up the fantasy of consumerism to live the dream of traveling, but they're just afraid to take the risk of abandoning the only life they really know how to live. The proponents that post here do it to help calm those fears and give realistic expectations to the people who are considering taking the leap.

>>973168
The psychology behind it is actually very interesting, in larger cities, the likelihood of encountering the same person multiple times is relatively low, which increases the success of shamefully excessive spanging, whereas in small towns (under 5K), you'll likely run into the same people several times in the same day, so a presentation with entertainment value may receive multiple donations and even reputation as a show worth seeing.

>>965463
>>965596
This is the best question ITT.
The rape gangs have a bit of initiation you need before you can join, generally the rule of thumb is you're going to need hep C, face tattoos, a drinking problem and you're going to need to piss all over everything you own. This will let the rape gang know that you're serious, and the piss will prove you're one of them. Once you have that in order, you travel to any number of hot spot towns. NOLA is a favorite of the rape gangs, just walking around downtown the smell of your piss clothes and booze will attract them. They will mistake you for one of their own, saving your butthole for now. The rape gang member will take you back to the rapesquat, where you will socialize and get to know your fellow rapegangers. The trick now will be to not show them that you don't actually know anything. Don't say much, feel free to parrot what they say to you a little bit, you can get away with this due to everyone being shitfaced wasted. If you manage to sail through those waters undetected it will be time for your first gang rape. A favorite thing to do is to lure normies in with promises of drugs and good times, then when you have them where you want them you mercilessly rape them. When they're good and raped, you give them face tattoos and pee on them. This is how the rape gang grows, and brings you to the answer of your second question. Full circle rapegangery. Go now, anon, and fulfill your dream.

>>965381
I'd say about 50/50 choice and circumstance. I could have struggled my way up in box life and may have ended up with a job that pays 12+ an hour by now. Instead I said fuck it and left. I am not a drug addict.

>>967126
Depends on my mood.

>>967846
Ticks are pretty easy to get off you before they attach. If you're innawoods or anywhere there's lots of deer and crap you just want to check yourself once every 2-3 hours and that will allow you to get the little bastards off before they bite. The only times I've gotten some ticks were times when I was too drunk to care. We're talking maybe 13 tick bites over 5 years of living outside.

>>969795
As far as a packlist I only tend to have what I need to sleep with and a few other misc things i've collected. It's not a big deal to not take your whole life on your back when you're going to be traveling in between cities and shit.
>web communities
There are a few, but they all more or less have AIDs. Squat the Planet being the most prevalent probably, but good luck there it's mostly just weird SJWs and crap. Some folks have posted about leddit groups here, but I've never checked them out for fear of catching the gay. Honestly, this thread here on /out/ is probably going to be your best bet. Besides me, there are a few other travelbums/seasonal dudes to answer whatever questions you may have. The main other hobro, nipples, will be back around the end of the month due to a ban.

>>973185
>>973179
You're nothing but socialists proselytizing, and I despise you and your view of humanity as little more than ants to fight for your cause with every fiber of my being.

>>973179
I bet your folks are proud. I can see their conversation with the neighbors now.
Them:we heard your son got that promotion, congrats. Just bought a new house with some acreage right?
Neighbor:he sure did, were very happy for him and his wife, she's expecting their child anyday. How's your son doing these days?
Them:uh, well he scored some two day old yogurt behind a safeway the other day and some half eaten pizza oh and he has a crusty street nickname now for some serious street cred, so he has that going for him.

>>973245
It's great how you can't form ideas based on real information. What a life you must lead. I wonder if you think you're convincing others to not listen to us, or if you're just here trying to get (You)s

>>973245
>tries to argue with bums
>about promotions and mcmansions

where do you think you are anon

>>973237
What thread have you been reading where they are trying to convert anyone? You act as if they are Jehova's Witness or something.

>>973268
>implying proselytizing politics isn't just as bad as proselytizing religion

I bet you get angry at stormfags proselytizing but when socialists do it you don't care. Easy to see where your loyalties lie, as always with human filth that seeks to drag down men to your level.

>>973272
Go back to /pol/ please, this is why no one likes you.

On the subject of your post, though, I couldn't give less fucks about who converts who to what. That's your game, faggot. Also, way to answer my question. Typical /pol/ retard.

>>973237
I'm sorry that you view personal freedom in a negative light.

>>973245
Actually, my father travels for a living and my mother who is nearing retirement has told me on a couple occasions that she regrets spending her best years at a desk. They both fully support my 'work when I need to, travel the rest of the time' philosophy.

>>973272
It's just fear, man. If they allow themselves to be convinced that we actually enjoy sleeping on the beach, meeting new people every day and cooking fresh fish over a campfire, they would have to accept that they've wasted their lives up 'til this point.

>>973214
>websites
Copypasted from /trv/ sticky, didn't check them out but your post about STP made me remember this

>For all those wanting information on Vagabonding:

http://www.artoftravel.com/index.html
http://www.vagabondjourney.com/

The cult leader that posts in this thread always neglects to mention the reality that most vagabonds live empty unfulfilling lives and suffer from depression and alcoholism. Go to Rainbow Gathering if you want to see the end result of this lifestyle. Alcoholism is so rampant the alcoholics have been forced to camp at the entrance of the camp. It's called A-Camp (I'd wager it stands for alcohol camp but the discussion seemed taboo so I didn't pry) and it is filled with 30 somethings and 40 somethings who are just as aimless as they were when they started. Only a fool would romanticize poverty and vagrancy, you will make a million ""friends"", many of them suffering from mental illness, and get to know almost none of them. It's not a life anyone should want. Pretty telling that the glory hound road dogs out there only give you the ultra-thin silver lining of it all. Misery loves company.

It's simple economics: My time is a diminutive resource and therefore increases in value as it's availability decreases, whereas money is an compoundant resource and therefore decreases in value as more gets printed. Trading something that increases in value for something that decreases in value isn't a very good deal.

>>973286
>most vagabonds live empty unfulfilling lives
I suppose you're speaking from first-hand experience? Or are you much like the homophobes that place shame on people, simply because they don't like anyone who doesn't fit into their idea of normalcy?

>>973286
You are wrong on all counts my man. It's great how you think rainbows=vagabonds. Hell, the only reason I'm going this year is to take some guys from /out/. Most vagabonds hate rainbow. Vagabonds are the happiest group of people I have ever met in my life, who would think that throwing away everything that upset you would leave you with a positive outlook? It's great that you want to be all keyboard warrior about this, but you should turn that passion to something more constructive than trying to spread lies to channers.

I'm honored you think I'm a cult leader, though.

>>973300
Anon also thinks that bums=vagabonds and homeless=addicts, but that's what happens when people expound on topics they know nothing about, everyone else gets to see the flaws in their logic. We'll probably never convince him that we're human beings that are deserving of respect; after all, like a slave that has given up hope of freedom, he believes that only through working does one earn the right to live. But at least the lurkers will get the opportunity to learn something from the discussions that Anon incites.

>>973300
Wanna-be cult leader I should say, of course you'd be honored to be called that. But I never stated vagabonds = rainbows you dolt, but every American vagabond will wind up at a gathering at some point, or meeting the crowd and the gathering is a macrocosm of what the vagabond lifestyle is. Decadent self-indulgence, filth, unmanageable drug addiction, worthless, shiftless, nothingness.

>who would think that throwing away everything that upset you would leave you with a positive outlook

Looks good on paper maybe. Not being able to let a child walk through the Portland city park barefoot because he can't take five steps without stepping on a needle doesn't.

>>973299
I'm not shitting on all vagabonds. Homelessness is nothing to be romanticized is all I'm saying. You share your career with the guy faking a handicap in the wheelchair by the interstate we've all seen, so if you can't live with a little critique without getting defensive maybe you should get a real job.

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>>973318
Youre not giving critique, youre just attempting and failing to shit on something you know nothing about. Its real great watching you flounder too, means ive been doing my job right. The simple fact is youre not supposed to know how good it really is. I wait until i meet people to divulge the good stuff. It also doesnt matter to me at all if you dont believe that, or would like to put your own flawed spin on it. By all means, keep shitposting and keep on telling yourself that you have all the knowledge. Pretty much all one has to do to know youre totally full of shit is lurk these threads anyways.

>>973318
>You share your career with the guy faking a handicap ... maybe you should get a real job
I work odd jobs when I need money, and because I don't have a mortgage or utilities to pay, I get to spend the majority of my time traveling, camping and fishing. Maybe I'm wrong, but I view your insistence that homeless people are worthless as a jealousy of the fact that I get 40-50 weeks of vacation every year.

>>973322
>y-you don't know what you're talking about!

Of course not. You're the expert who has dedicated his life to shitposting in a hot bus in BFE off of a mobile phone. You're the know it all star of /hg/.

You can keep acting like you're so above it all but you and I both know the overlap between homelessness and depression is more than a correlation=/=causation thing, but I can tell you're not into giving the reality of it, just painting a pretty picture to share with some gullible youths that don't know better.

I repeat myself.

>Pretty telling that the glory hound road dogs out there only give you the ultra-thin silver lining of it all. Misery loves company.

>>973179
>box life
>box life
>box life

Not denegrating at all? You must not be aware of it, being addled on multiple drugs 24/7/365. It's obvious to all here that you glorify your failure because you know that you hate what you have become. Go chug some more 40s to forget your cardboard box life

>>973331
Its fun how youre this blasted about it. Ive proven myself in real life to three different /out/ists in the last 6 months. Why you think i should break my mold just to pointlessly try and convince you is beyond me.

I have a generator and a/c by the way.

>>973331
>the overlap between homelessness and depression
>>973332
>multiple drugs 24/7/365
>Go chug some more 40s to forget your cardboard box life
Not everyone is in that same boat. Those who are forced into homeless because they don't make enough to pay for a home to live in aren't the same people who choose to spend their time and money on things other than a home.

>>973328
the assumption that normalfolk are all jealous of the vagrant lifestyle is delusional. First I'm a homophobe now I'm just jealous? Get over yourself, you're not a victim nor are you some hero. I repeat myself yet again, I am not here to shit on all vagabonds. I don't want any troubled kids reading this and thinking vagrancy is the life for them, because more often than not, it will end up being a worse living situation than the one they left.

>>973339
More often than not huh? Ill repeat myself too, you have no idea what youre talking about.

>>973300
You aren't going to the rainbow gathering. You are going to the hobo bus camp miles away by the alkies. Either you have no gear or your body is ridden with abscesses and you can't walk a mile.

>>973311
Respect is earned and junkies deserve none. The only knowledge you could share is to not be a failure like (you)

>>973349
You sound like a 6th grader trying to convince his 18 yr old brother he's hip

>>973334
I love that "U Mad?" /b/ '07 retort style you've got. You were never going to make it in the real world anyway, clearly.

>>973274
>>973279
Socialists defend socialists. As I stated, it's pretty obvious to tell where your loyalties lie.

>like. ur whole life is a SCAAMMM man
>why can't every1 be the saem? FUCK RICH PPPL

All you see is red, and the ants you want to convert to your side to fight your battles for you. Cowards.

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>>973354
I have everything ive ever wanted, i am making the shit out of it. You being blasted is just a fact m8 i could meme harder if it would please you. Youre getting kind of stale.

>>973344
Of course, not. I'll repeat myself as well, I'm not the revered sage of /hg/, Hangnail McGuffin, who shitposts from the driver's seat of his rusted out Dodge school bus from his Obamaphone, I'm just a guy who is capable of googling the relationship between homelessness and depression. This one looks good, first result.

https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/blog/homelessness-and-mental-health

>depression rates are over 10 times higher in the homeless population

damn I didn't think it was THAT bad.

>Another homeless thread ruined by angry wagefriends

This hostility comes from no where.

>>973361
Any study you find is only available due to the public aid demographic. We dont stay at shelters, get admitted to hospitals, sign the registry etc. You have absolutely no way to find macro information about my demographic on the internet. It does not exist because we do not participate. You are delusional, or just shitposting.

>>973339
>normalfolk are all jealous
>you're not a victim nor are you some hero
Everyone can see through you trying to put words in my mouth.

>vagrancy
>junkies
Where did this even come from? Are you still under the impression that I'm sleeping on cardboard under a bridge, drunk, high and begging passersby for money?

Let's go ahead and make this perfectly clear:
I don't beg, I don't drink or do drugs excessively or in public, I don't hate the housed, and I don't pity myself. I work 2-8 weeks out of the year, then catch rides from people that want the company to places they're already going and spend time enjoying a carefree lifestyle of enjoying the out-of-doors without the burden of financial commitments. I share this philosophy only on /hg/, where channers come to read about it, because I believe that there are a lot of people who feel trapped by their dead-end jobs and want to know if there's a way out.

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>>973363
>>973366
>>973367

haha bums blasted

>>973371
The set up was so worth it this time

>>973366
>It does not exist because we do not participate
Agreed. As far as records go, I'm just low-income. No shelters, no criminal record, just a guy who's completely content making ~3K/yr. There's no way of tracking our demographic, and it's probably a lot larger than even the homebum population if you factor in snowbirds. Realistically, I'm just a guy who retired at 28.

>>973371
>>973372
Calling travelers 'bums' just makes you come off as ignorant. There's a prevalent difference.

>>965356
If any of you stinky bums are in the portland area I have a hot shower and laundry machines you can use.
In gladstone

>>973375
>thinks his demographic isnt tracked.
Anon... you're pretty god damn clueless.

>>973403
Do you not understand how surveys work? If i dont participate, you have no data on me. The only thing anyone would know about is the NSA reading the shitposts here, my email and texts. There are no surveys done by me or mine,

>>973403
>you're pretty god damn clueless
Okay, go ahead and clue me in then. Who/what is tracking me that regards me in any respect other than as I specified (low-income and traveling)?

>>973382
> t. sophisticated bum

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>>973367
I sort of assume that you are in your teens through maybe mid 30's. Correct me if I'm wrong, I apologize if i have the wrong idea about your general demographic makeup.

But my question, based on the above assumption, is this "How are you planning for any sort of medical/finincial emergency and what are your thoughts on old age planning?"

Seems to me I never see any old vagabonds. All the old-timers you see are more of the "fucked up drug addicts" type and not the "working to travel" people.

It would seem that its really hard to live that type of live past your 30's.

Any thoughts?

>>973471
Your insightful contribution has been appreciated.

Guy with the bus. I'm not great at any instruments tho I could learn. I like the idea of playing the spoons. But Im actually a pretty decent singer.
The songs I would list to define my singing style would be

Too afraid to love you - the black keys
Ain't no sunshine - bill withers
People are strange -the doors
Do I wanna know - Arctic monkeys
California dreaming - Mama's and Papa's

And recently I discovered starfucker.

>>973475
I'm 32, white, male, straight, HFA...

>medical emergency?
I'm a veteran.
>financial emergency?
When I'm down to my last couple hundred I just find some work so I can keep myself in shoes and fish hooks; there's nothing else that I really need money for.
>Seems to me I never see any old vagabonds. All the old-timers you see are more of the "fucked up drug addicts" type and not the "working to travel" people.
I get why you think that, but if you saw me during the "working season" you'd have no idea that I travel the rest of the time. Daily showers, shaving, a haircut and a pair of rockports make me look like I belong in a corner office; only my tan and a sense of not being dead inside separate me from the majority. All the rest of the time, you'd probably not guess I've worked a day in my life, though...
>what are your thoughts on old age planning?
I'll probably take advantage of the GI loan, get myself a 3 bedroom house and rent out the other two rooms to cover the mortgage and utilities, banking the rest to cover extraneous costs; I'm pretty used to not needing much else.
>Any [other] thoughts?
I basically live by the philosophy that no one ever lays on their deathbed wishing that they had spent more time at the office and less at the beach. That doesn't mean that I think that people shouldn't work at all, simply that we all have very limited time on this Earth, and that I want people to be mindful of how they spend that precious resource.

>>973476
Sorry faggot but to the non homeless you are all just worthless bums not worth respect or even acknowledgement that you are human

>>973495
Thanks anon! That was a nice reply and definitely answered my questions.

I've been around the block a few times, lived (for multiple years) in 5 different countries on 3 continents and I feel like I get what makes a traveling live a really nice "alternative" to the usual day to day.

Seems like your military live gave you a pretty good leg up on being able to handle that sort of livestyle and the benefits will surely help in the long run! Glad you are taking advantage of those.

Just comes to show that there isn't a "1 size fits all" solution to happiness. Glad you found yours. While it sounds nice and "different" I dont think I or many others would enjoy it too much or have a good time.

I have no GI bill benefits, no access to the VA, no access to reduced housing prices. None of that. So when i think about the traveling life it just seems like it would be more stress eventually than what its worth.

But to each their own. If you are ever in the weird burning man plexiglass half dome or hippie van on Potrero Hill, let me know and i'll buy you some fries and share a beer with you in exchange for some stories.

keep on keeping on!

>>973496
And to me, you're just a bitter person vilifying others in order to feel better about yourself because you're ashamed of not being able to pull yourself out of the financial pit you dug.

>>973499
Happy to help!

I get that what I do isn't right for everyone, but I think that there's a lot of people out there that don't even know that it's an option; society places such a stigma on it, that most people feel that 'intermittent employment' would make them feel like a failure, when in fact it's the complete opposite. I define my success by the experiences that I've had rather than the money I've made, and the result of that is that I get to see and do more than people with six-figure incomes.

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>>973475
There are many old timers and lifers out here. The reason you dont see them is because they become less and less dependant on society as they age. Youd never know they existed unless you picked them up off the side of the highway or unless youre living the life too. Plenty of hobos die young, old and in between. There are probably far more of us than you can imagine. As far as for myself, i figure id go to the ER and get fixed up if anything traumatic happened. If i end up with cancer or aids or some shit i guess thatll be the end of me. Im not terribly worried. I have seen and lived more at 26 than most every adult that i knew growing up. I live every day exactly how i want to be living it, i have no stress about these things. As far as finances ive already mentioned i keep a fair amount stacked up in case some shit goes south. I will probably end up settling down at some point, life is long. For now i will be good to go as long as my body lasts me. The other anon has it pretty well covered from there.

>>973491
If you want to lead you basically have to find a band for yourself unless youll learn the guitar or something similar. Ive never seen anyone get by solely on song. Im sure you could do it, but i have no idea where id start. You could probably get by playing the spoons and singing if you looked at more traditional songs.

>>972497
Prepaid or how do you get service?

>>973593
I have Verizon for now. I just pay for it like anyone man.

>>973533
>I will settle down for the box life soon

Too late, you have no skills or ability to be normal

>>973603
youdontknowme.jpg

>>973603
Did you even read my posts? Also
>>973618

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>>971565

In other words, you want to keep all the boys to yourself...

>>972345

Yeah this is creepy as fuck. The fact that you keep referencing these people as "kids" is a major red flag to me.

I think we've got enough info here to tip off the locals just so they can make sure everything is on the up and up. Frankly it sounds like you're a child predator that "educates" runaway minors in how to live on the streets and you don't want any adults figuring this out.

I figure with the email you provided along with the fact that we know you're in Tulsa will be enough to give the authorities a good head start in looking for you.

>>973603
>>973618
>You don't know me

You can't hack life when you have all the advantages, no way you can do it at 40

>>971242
Go away Denmark.

>>973638
Oh Carlos, you bad

>>973651
What do you take me for, some kinda newfag?

>>973653
I'm not sure why you're so convinced I can't provide for myself. I am doing waaaay more than just hacking it.

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>>965356
>>965365
>>965368
>>965381
FUCKING BRICKKEKS GTFO

BRICK KEKS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>973718
Bricc Cuccs BTFO*

>>966237
you have any advice for busking?

>>973762
Busking is pretty great and easy. You can do it anywhere you find people. Seriously anywhere. Its not illegal, but some (few) places require you to have a permit to,play atreet music. These are usually 10, 20, 30 bucks but youll only find that in touristy towns or gentrified places. Its pretty straightforward, is there anything specific youd like to know?

>>973207
fuckin lol

gold

>>973765
How often do cops hassle you?

>>971584
>encouraging underage kids to go to a secret location to get drunk and stoned
>"I'll teach you the ways of the world"
>No over 30s

Seems legit

>>973996
That bus bum is clearly a pedophile, not surprising that he has to use drugs to entice the kids, but why is he allowed to use this website as a recruiting tool?

>>973602
How anti-capitalist of you.

>>973765
How good do you have to be at an instrument? Could I just learn a few guitar chords and simple songs and start there?

Are vagabonds really always upbeat? Maybe it's cause I'm in raincity Vancouver but all the vagabonds I see and meet here seem miserable as fuck. They also put very little effort into busking or panhandling

>>973602
>most people pay their Verizon bill by begging

>>973985
Mostly never, if someone calls them the most they'll do is come ask you to move spots

>>973996
>>974057
It's great how you guys have to stretch this far. I also love how anyone under 30 is apparently underage.

>>974092
Yeah I know, I also pay for insurance, fuck me right?

>>974100
You don't have to be good at all. Like I said earlier, when I started playing guitar I sucked hard. Still made plenty of dosh.

>>974145
There are plenty of addicts out here. The vagabonds you'll see hanging out in cities are there for a reason and that reason, 9 times out of 10, is drugs. The kind of vagabonds I'm talking about are the ones you rarely run into until you start living the life.

>>974153
Most people pay their Verizon bill by working 40 hr weeks for less than I make "begging"

I know, I'm just the worst.

>>974167
Wait so you're telling me real vagabonds don't travel using ports or rail systems? I find it hard to believe most vagrants on the west coast don't travel through Vancouver.

Also I know how to tell the difference between vagabonds and drug addicts.

>>974244
>sitting in VC
>traveling
Pick one. These addict vagabonds that i talk about will ride rails or hitch between cities where theyll sit around and get fucked up for a while before going on to the next place. They seem miserable and lazy because their brains do not produce their happy chemicals the right way anymore due to years of drug addiction. You 'being able to tell the difference' is irrelevant because in this case, there is no difference. You wondered why the ones you see around town seem down in the dumps, 90% of it is what i just told you. Vagabonds who arent hooked spend most of their time /out/ away from everything, which is why you dont see them nearly as often as the ones half assedly spanging yelling at normies on the street. This is especially true around your corridor, portland vc oly and seattle are huge meccas for drugged out gutter punks. Many of the folks you see hanging in vc probably make the rounds between these places regularly, staying in established squats hanging out with each other getting fucked up. Hell, in Portland you can get out of your car downtown and just watch vagabonds shooting dope right there on the sidewalk. They still count as vagabonds because they do travel around a bit, but many of these kids are just in the throes of addiction no matter where they end up.

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>>974167
>I'm not like those other bums

How exactly?
>Drugs and alcohol
>Homeless
>Beggar and leach
>No redeeming value
>Public nuisance
>Stinky

You might not be as decrepit as the older ones but you will get there soon

>>974275
>i have no idea what im talking about so i'll just shitpost instead

Well, guess you came to the right place.

>>974277
You gloat about all those things bushobo. Were you lying or maybe you can't remember due to your drug habit

>>974343
Everything ive ever said is in the archive forever and ever. If you think i need to explain myself to your confused ass youll be disappointed.

Firstly nice collection of photos OP.. im quite fascinated just trying to get a idea for how you live day to day- how many days a week are you busking? Is your main focus just surviving on a daily basis? how do you structure your time think I would struggle

>>969793
Seattle home bum here
1. I dont even drink
2. Ya im a bit burnt out, but mainly working to keep an apartment that will never be mine.(fyi the housing situation here is insane)
3. I skateboard, busk, fuckoff at the library, and chill at the Y's pool

>>974391
His main focus here is recruiting victims for canablism or rape or whatever the drugs tell him to do. Other than that his day is spent bingeing, sponging and theiving

>>974391
Lots of lazy enjoyment. If I'm on the road I'll busk every day. While I've been hanging out in Tulsa it's once or twice a week. My main focus day to day is to just chill and be happy. I skate, practice guitar, hang out with people, smoke herb in the shade, do a bit of drinking not too much partying anymore, read, shitpost on 4chan etc. If there is something I need to save for I will busk constantly until I can go get it. On the road I never stay in a town more than a day or two unless I meet cool people so most of my time is spent driving and camping around the country. I spend absolutely as much time innamountains and innaforest as i can, I'll hit towns to get what I need then be gone again. The main focus of my life in general is to just be /out/ as much as possible. I love living out in the natural world. It's very easy to sustain yourself anywhere when your bills amount to <$200/mo.

>>974441
Why do you stay there?

>>974468
Food super easy to get, also I'm trying to land somthing in alaska / Cool outdoorsy job that pays well.

>>974488
If you are under 25 look at WA state Dept. of Conservation. It will be easy as fuck to land a forestry job out fixing trails and shit for months at a time.

Food is easy to get everywhere.

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greetings, shitposters! this is my vagabond testimony.

over the past 2 years, I've spent between 7 & 8 months roaming North America. that is, continually moving. there have been breaks in-between, but even when i'm not on the road, i live within simple means and only have what i want on my plate, generally devoting my time to exploring outdoors, writing music, filling journals, painting, etc. I've touched ground in 47 US states and 3 Canadian provinces. ridden 2 different vehicles (currently rockin a pimped out van), and hitched casually before (something i intend to do more of). I'm only just about to turn 19. and I've done all of this within my own means - my own earnings, my own desires (I've busked and worked odd jobs when it's been convenient).
i have wasted none of my time. i am not at all less able to plan whatever future i want for having done any of the things i have. my brain is not melted. i'm still ambitious. I've met hundreds of people at this point who have changed the way i see things and broadened my perspective. I've had all sorts of chances to test out my ideas and actually live and realize them.

along the way I've spent some good times hanging with bus anon and some others from /out/, and i can verify that everyone's unfounded suspicions (while usually obvious shitposts) are just totally cracked.
the essence of these threads - and the people who live them - is fucking philosophy. a major part of which revolves around the idea that we never really have much to lose in life - except the REAL moments we could waste by putting too much of our energy into bad bargains. the trend is usually this: people who live right, but don't think right; and people who think right, but don't live right. - and i think if anyone in these threads genuinely felt that they had found a superior way to balance these conflicts, and that they TRULY were living a life that was admirable to them AND rewarding, then the shitposting would probably be a lot less extensive...

>>974693
cont...

so yeah, there are no valid reasons for so relentlessly criticizing things that you are unwilling to explore yourselves. if you don't live looking to challenge yourself and what you think you know, your ignorance has more control over you than you think.
people have been living dirty since the beginning of time. we live in an age where it is fashionable to admire the supposed intellects and iron-wills of (doomed-only-to-be) historical figures, where we at the same time expect to benefit from such lessons WITHOUT DOING ANY DISCOVERING OF OUR OWN. whatever floats your boat. they all sink eventually.

go outside. turn off the screen. do something new. think for yourself. don't listen to me. don't listen to bus anon. just ask yourself: how much of your life is truly YOURS?

>>974696
>how much of your life is truly YOURS?
For most people, exactly 2/7 of it.

>>974697
exactly?

>>973533
>I live every day exactly how i want to be living it, i have no stress about these things.
FARCE
A
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C
E

>>974693
>I'm a minor who was harbored and corrupted by an older transient man who takes drugs and lives on a bus

STOCKHOLM SYNDROME

>>973366
Most hobos leave because they had nothing better. And if they stay travelling, sleeping in the dirt and smelling like doodoo, then they certainly have nothing better.

>>974468
Do you have any sense of progression?

>>974872
Haha that's box life thinking. What could be better than drinking and smoking weed in the brush behind a truck stop. WiFi, beer and smokes. And always a chance of some strange wandering in. Progression is just a buzzword to keep you slaving but whatever

>>974863
Sorry about your shit life anon.

>>974871
You dont know a thing about any hobos, much less most.

>>974928 #
Haha, nice shit posting anon. I almost thiught you were busanon for a moment.

>>974932 #
Sorry doing the same thing (which is nothing) everyday makes you happy as happy as a pig in mud. Wink wink. I don't really believe you. Don't take it personal kid. These comments are for research purposes.

>>974933
>t. hobo expert

Enlighten us on the noble hobo because all we know is seeing them lying in vomit, begging, in the news for crimes etc. What are we missing?

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>>974938
I dont give a shit what you believe. Like i said ive proven this shit in real life to 3 different people from this board in the last 6 months. Im about to make it 4. You sure must know better though, amirite?

>>974943
Go read the archive if you're actually curious ya mook

>>974945
I don't believe you because very few people are that content, especially when they lack, ya know, any sort of purpose whatsoever to help pass the time. But I'm assuming you don't have any projects if some kind because you've never mentioned any.

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>>974959
What threads have you been reading?

You are confused as fuck family.

>>974961
I browse this thread semi often.

>>974869
bro. I said on and off for 2 years. I was doing vagabond shit before I even knew of these threads. and in which US sate is someone over the age of 18 a "minor"?

SHITPOST

>>974964
Then im sorry you seem to have trouble following my posts. Nothing you've said applies to me, better luck next time.

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>>974967
>Sitting around smoking pot and drinkin beer
>Not purposeless

>>974968
>im literally retarded and all i took from hundreds of posts was smokin weed amd drinkin beers

Heres your (You)

>>974972
>Lots of lazy enjoyment. If I'm on the road I'll busk every day.

>My main focus day to day is to just chill and be happy. I skate, practice guitar, hang out with people, smoke herb in the shade, do a bit of drinking not too much partying anymore, read, shitpost on 4chan etc

Yup, that's aimless hedonism. And hedonism with little room for progression at that. You're not gonna be partying with models and snorting coke off stripper ass anytime soon.


>The main focus of my life in general is to just be /out/ as much as possible. I love living out in the natural world.

Doing what? I love nature as much as the next bloke but c'mon.

>>974982
Once again, since you seemed to have missed it last time

>literally retarded

Not to mention you are on /out/ trying to say being /out/=doing nothing with no room for progression.

You also miss the part where i keep your faggot, shitposting ass in the dark on purpose. I do not post my dank stories, or tell you about everything i do, nor will i start.

I wonder what an acceptable answer would have been, snorting coke off stripper ass? You are pretty basic bitch anon.

>>974167

If there's nothing wrong with what youre doing then you wouldn't feel the need to defend it so badly.

Oh wait, I thought you were completely content and live each day exactly as you want to?

>>974986
You win the weakest bait of the thread award. Here's your complimentary (You)

>>974985
You painted a simple picture of yourself, then say how happy and content you are. Only an oblivious autist would be truly happy with such a simple life, so yes, people with nothing better to so are going to call you out on it. But if you want be Mr. Tall Dark Handsome Mysterious Man Who Merely Portrays Himself As A Pot Smoking Porch Monkey, then go right ahead. You're right, it makes more sense to post fabrications that are worse than the actual reality.

>>974991
This is one of those cry for help things isnt it anon?

I never said you had to believe me. Im not embellishing one bit.

>>974996
I don't believe you. It's OK though.

>>975005
An example would be that I bet you don't get laid as often as you like.

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>Work shit job
>Life is boring
>Starting to romanticize being a hobo

Doesn't help that I'm depressed and my work makes it worse.

>>975041
You are just grasping at straws now man.

Between bus bum and his apprentice they have already confirmed this

>Generally speaking, a corruption of minors charge imposes criminal penalties against an adult, meaning a person who is 18 years of age or older, from corrupting the morals of a minor, meaning a person under the age of 18. The charge also prohibits an adult from aiding, enticing, or encouraging a minor to commit a crime, violate a court order, or violate parole.

>What actions constitute something that would corrupt the morals of a minor are debatable. explaining that it includes actions that would offend the common sense, sense of decency, propriety, and morality which most people in the community entertain.

>>975047
There are plenty of different ways to live your life anon, no reason to keep bashing your head against a wall waiting for shit to change.

>>975050
What an imagination you have anon

>>975047
Being homeless won't improve your life. Use your brain.

>>975053

Stay away from kids you degenerate

>Many people believe that a minor's willingness to engage in the activity or consent is a defense to a corruption of minors charge. It is not.

>Other people believe that they should be permitted to argue that they did not corrupt the morals of a minor because the minor had already been engaging in the activity. They are not.

>For example, if a person was charged with corruption of minors based upon having consensual sex with a minor who had previously engaged in sexual activity, the adult would not be permitted to seek a dismissal of the charge because the minor voluntarily engaged in the activity or had already been corrupted by engaging in sexual activity in the past

>>975048
> I live every day exactly how i want to be living it, i have no stress about these things

Do you get laid enough anon? Just be honest.

>>975057
Improved mine completely. Paid off all my debt, allowed me to focus on music which now pays for everything in my life, got me living in my baller converted bus, not even touching all the awesome shit ive seen and people ive met. Like it or not you can fix a lot by living like this.

>>975058
Wew lad

>>975061
Go read the archive and find out. We both know youre just fishing for (You)s like every other shitposter here.

>A charge of corruption of minors is generally a first-degree misdemeanor, which carries a maximum sentence of five years' incarceration and a $10,000 fine. The grading of the charge is increased to a third-degree felony if the adult engages in any course of conduct related to sexual offenses that corrupts or tends to corrupt a minor.

>>975065
We don't have time for that. You won't answer so we're just going to assume that's a no. Please tone down you're exaggerated claims, we know you're trying to lure in young boipucci with your claims of "be perfectly happy on $3000 a year" (you could be the next Tai Lopez). Also, you're the biggest shitposter around.

I'm not /fit/, but I'm in decent enough shape to walk two to three miles a night. How fucked am I if I want to hitchhike from east to west coast carrying a 30-40 pound pack?

>>975063
>improved my life.
>I live in a bus.
I feel like you have a warped sense of "improved".

>>975065
>gets called out for tons of shit.
>you're just shit posting!

Or you could... I dunno, answer something honestly instead of deflecting and avoiding questions. At this point I'm fairly certain you're either lying about everything, or are likely some kiddie diddler trying to avoid prosecution by living in a bus.

>>975069
Not fucked at all. Hitching is pretty easy when it all comes down to it. You can make it all the way across the country in a week. Maybe even less. As long as youre comfortable sleeping outside youll be good to go.

>>975080
Kek anon im not going to keep propogating your shitposting. You arent convincing anyone. Every answer to any question anyone has for me can be answered by thumbing through the archive. You can go fuck yourself if you think i should cater to your faggot ass. You dont wanna know shit, you just wanna get your neckbeard rocks off by ub3r 1337 tr0lling some 'haha bums blasted' thread that you care nothing about.

Go ahead and keep whining about the bums not playing nice with you.

>>975084
>as long as you're comfortable sleeping outside
Dryer sheets. Specifically Bounce. They are an absolute godsend when keeping mosquitoes away.

>>975090
Soooooo.... Kiddie Diddler it is.

>>975090
So you're life is so amazing and packed, but you still have time to creep for runaway teens on 4chan...

>>975092
And sexually frustrated, insecure liar.

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>>975090
The one crying is you right now and we're the bullies beating your faggot ass

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>>975091
I tend to just take some bug spray. Dryer sheets havent worked for me. I know a dude who eats three cloves of garlic a day and claims he never gets bugs on him because of that. Hippy all natural bug repellant works alright, but its just oils that you have to re apply every hour and a half.

>>975106
>>975097
>>975099
Ooo, shit, you really got me there senpai

>>975063
>dream of making a living by playing music
>end up busking at bus stations

this is not what I meant.

>>975107
I haven't truly been /out/ in years and years, but I've been autistically saving every shekel not going towards gear and bills to have a nice security blanket. Plan to get on the road here by spring and see the places I've always wanted to see but was always too poor or never had time.

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>>975108
Wat? Anon i play festivals, bars, venues, coffee shops, malls, tourist traps etc. I literally pay for my entire life with music. Its not some half assed sitting on some abandoned bench somewhere wondering when the money will get there kind of thing.

>>975110
Fuck yeah man. Thats what its all about. Do whatever you need to do to get out and see all the awesome shit our/your country has to offer.

>>975111
>being this triggered

ITT:wugecucks yelling/mad jelly at wingnuts/oogles/homebums/tramps

just remember senpai
if you don't want to work then that becomes your job there's a lot of overtime and there's not many days off

also REMINDER the only good hippy is a dead hippy throw em off a moving train poke em with a needle full of air set them on fire while they're sleeping or just beat them to death with a blunt object

>>975156

This, there is only one life to be lived: The life of an industrious citizen, concurrent with the norms of society. Any other lifestyle is symptomatic of mental illness or eccentricities which are detrimental to the well-being of the collective.

>When a bum walks into /out/ and exclaims he's "happy" and "enjoying himself"

How can one enjoy themselves without paying taxes? It's clearly a lie.

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>>975209
>How can one enjoy themselves without paying taxes?

>>975209
odd you're spouting off about collectives when all you retards believe in is collectivism and every1 should be da saem social class mandated by gov

smash the hierarchy, yeah... smash yourself oh wait you already are LOL

>>975216
It's trolling, you idiot.

>>975221
This. These fucks do this every thread because theyre addicted to (You)s

>>975225
Lay off the crusties man you are just one paycheck away from losing ur box life

>>975240
I support our resident /out/ bums. I wish our janitor would do something about the shitposters on /out/ who ruin good threads just cuz.

>>965617
They usually look at least a decade older than they actually are once they've been bumming for a few years

>>975245
Kindness evokes kindness and the bums are lacking in that and any other virtue

>>975263
You just make up whatever you want about these guys don't you?

>>975265
What part is made up?

>>975270
You are either basing all your assumptions on him lying, or you're making all this shit you post up from nowhere. Busanon has taken in 3 sc/out/s who needed a place to go. You're the biggest faggot ever if you don't equate that to kindness. Don't get me wrong, though. You never had any intention of believing what you read here and you know it.

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This thread:

>>967878
Also, re: this. A lot of bums are assholes like this who don't seem happy at all.

>>975271
What part is made up?

>>975276
Literally every single thing you say against these dudes is made up, not based in reality. Fake. A lie. The only way one could make sense of your shitposts is if you truly believe they are lying. Which you don't, as I said, you never had any intention of believing. So here's another (You) so that you can pat yourself on the back for being the big bad troll of the bum thread.

>>975273
Bro wtf happened to you to make your shit bleed

>>975277
Please stop posting.

>>975281
No u

>>975277
You keep writing paragraphs of nonsense instead of stating what is untrue. Can you name one thing?

>>975288
Nigger, I am done bickering with you. You have no intention of doing anything other than shitposting, obviously. Get fucked basement dweller.

>>975263
>>975271

>>975288
I'll do it for him.
>>975263
>>975262
>>975099
>>975097
>>975092
>>975080
>>975068
>>975050
That's not even covering the rest of the thread, you get the picture, right? I'm going to assume that this is not the only thread you pull this kind of crap in, the whole board is ready for you to fuck off. Pity we can't get a competent janitor around here really.

>>975291
So what isn't true?

Jesus can you guys at least post sinks when you try and derail a thread this hard

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>>975291

None of those is me, why are you so defensive?

>>975295
At the very least this is.
>>975263
If not all you've been saying is "What part is made up?" for (You)s which is honestly more disturbing.

>>975298
A decade older might be stretching it since y'all prefer the younguns

Should a /out/ist use a sleeping bag? Or will it be stolen?

>>975348
Use a sleeping bag

>>975047
this is pretty much where I'm at

>work shitty part time job
>go to shitty college for shitty degree I don't care about
>hate being alive and thinking about suicide every day
>getting to the point where I'm gonna kill myself and I don't know what to do
>don't feel like a real person, no friends, aspirations, dreams, desires, I just exist

why did it have to be this way

>>975386
Because youve been fed lies your whole life about that being the only way to succeed. Everyone told you youd know what you wanna do.

>>975554
I don't believe this "you've been fed lies" meme. It's your own damn fault if you f****** suck at life

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i have no direction in life and was think about walking from nh to new york city, hanging out there for a few days and then taking a bus back to nh if i dont like being a "bum" and if i like it ill head to somewhere else

what should i bring? how much do you guys spend a day? how do you make money? i really dont want to beg people for money. where do you find free food?

also i want to bring as little as possible and plan on walking most of the way

It's the most people's natures it is we will they tell them what they've been told. They're just stupid sheep. Also if you have autism you're always going to suck.

>>975579
>go to school get a job get married have kids die in your sleep
>the american dream
You dont have to believe things for them to be true. This is the shit that is force fed through an entire generation thanks to the boomers and their shitty, outdated worldview.

>>975582
Going to be a bum in nyc is pretty tarded family. You want to go to smaller towns, stay out of cities. Go rural. See the country. Nyc is not a good place to be innabackpack and green as fuck.

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>>975593
ive always wanted to check it out, thats why i wanted to go there first