/Out/ings With a Pipe Thread #2

I used to smoke a clay pipe. Started because I did French and Indian war reenacting. Pipe smoking was traded for cigarette as reenactment attendance lessened and bar attendance increased. The last thread got me revved up, though and I picked up an mm corncob and a cheap briar and some more captain black. I ordered an aromatic sampler from p&c but it backordered, despite the fact that their site said it was in stock. Now I'm reeeeeeing.

That's my story.

why do you smoke a pipe, /out/?

>>965269
I started because I liked cigars, but got bored with tasting the same old flavors and wanted more and different things. I cast about for a little while before stumbling upon Dunhill Royal Yacht and Lane 1-Q. Then I just started expanding my horizons.

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Pipe of the night

Baccarat sitter filled with a local aromatic blend. I don't know what else is in it other than some vanilla, but it's something different and fairly mild.

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deer are neat. MacBaren Original choice is tasty.

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piptoporus betulinus awww yeeea

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thoughts on the zippo pipe lighter?

>>965486
Overrated.

While they look premium and work ok, they're just that-ok. Not spectacular or really necessary.
When I use them to first light a full bowl, there often isn't enough airflow through the flame for it to draw onto the tobacco and get a really solid light. I've mostly quit using them for just that reason.

Bics, matches and even regular Zippos are much more forgiving in that regard. Especially If you tip the pipe bowl slightly to line up with the flame before puffing to start the light, a regular lighter does the job quite efficiently.

>>965526
so getting a more "directed" flamed lighter would be a better option?

>>965527
A plain old lighter or matches is what I use most often.
Most people prefer a "soft flame" lighter (think Bic, Zippo or matches) over a torch lighter with its "hard flame", but I think that's just because it's cheap and familiar. If you look at the third video in the OP, you'll see Mr. Frank using a butane torch lighter in a very specific way because it lights all of his tobacco vey quickly and nearly simultaneously. So it can be done, it just takes a little different technique.

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>>965433

>>965535
To follow on, I'm not going to say don't get it-that's your choice and you might like yours better than I do mine-just that it's not necessary in my opinion. If you like it, get it.
It does work, I just like other things better.

>>965242
If Gandalf, the hobbits and friggin Aragorn could hike with pipes it's good enough for me. Which tobacco?

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Reminder, if you're a pipe smoker you are obliged to always carry your tobacco smoke enema kit. It just might save a life.

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>>965664
i suppose, in an emergency you could blow smoke into a camelbak, seal it and the insert the spigot? and the press down on the bladder?

>>965649
Frog Morton of course.
After all, what better tobacco to use than one named after a village in the Shire?
Doesn't hurt that it's fantastic too.

>>965664
That's why I smoke-for the promotion of good health and the benefit of our fellow man.

Bought a rolling machine a few days ago for joints, rolled a few "cigarellos" with my local aromatic blend,

Honestly recommended. Its quick, easy, cheap, taste is comparable, I will make a couple to keep with me for quick smokes

Roller was like 8$ from aliexpress.

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>>965649
What Tolkien himself smoked.

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>>965664

Is this where the phrase "blowing smoke up my ass" originates from?

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I honestly don't know much about smoking because I've never tried it but I've always wanted to try a pipe or cigar. From what friends have told me, smoking cigarettes makes you sort of agitated or perhaps on edge? Basically I just wanted to hear other opinions on Tobacco and whether or not smoking a from a pipe or cigar would be any different to cigarette.

>>965261
not to knock P&C, but Smoking Pipes is much better imo. they send out shipments more frequently and their prices are comparable, sometimes cheaper. i ordered a tin and got it three days later, a day sooner than the estimate, and that was with their cheapest shipping option. P&C took three weeks to not send out an order and never responded to inquiries, they just canceled it when i kept asking them to after all that time of waiting.

>>965953
eh. not much of a physical reaction from pipesmoking unless i smoke some real strong stuff

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>>965649

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flake is so aesthetic

>>965953
It'll be different. The big difference with pipes and cigars is the smoke doesn't get inhaled into your lungs, it stays in your mouth and nose area. As a result the nicotine hit (and chance of addiction) is much less extreme-the lungs have over 2000x the surface area of the mouth. You get some of the good effects without feeling like a heroin addict if you don't light up every hour.

>>965927
Yes
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2014/05/origin-expression-blow-smoke-ass/

>>966054
Ah I see so it's essentially a flavour thing, rather than 'fuk I gotta go 4 a cig m8'

>>966027

Mirin the flake.

Thinking of moving on from Sam Gawith's Virginia Flake to the Dark Flake without the tonquin bean flavouring.
Anyone have experience with darker flakes i.e fire cured or air cured african/indian tobacco? I've heard the nicotine content is high, but the taste is worth it.

>>965242
>Having trouble keeping your pipe lit?
I have the opposite problem.

I run my pipe slightly too hot so I have to slow and cool down to get better flavor.

>>966057
If you get addicted to cigars or pipes you are doing it wrong. At worst it is a social habit that you look forward too a little too much. Kind of like how Asians like karaoke too much.

Cigars tend to have much stronger flavor than pipes but pipes have a larger variety of flavors and are smoked at a lower temperature.

Cigars are great for parties since they stay lit easily and last about 90 minutes. Pipes are for small groups of friends where everyone has their own pipe and that pipes can go out more easily than a cigar or cigarette if you stop drawing for more than a few minutes.

>>966171
what kind of pipe have you got?

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Seems this is Flake Tobacco Friday.

Smoking Erinmore flake in an odd bird: an Aristocob. It has a cartridge-like replaceable corncob bowl inside an aluminum body. The corncob helps to absorb moisture, the aluminum body cools the smoke, and the stem accepts a Medico filter.

>>966171
I'm the same way.
That advice is for the rank beginners about the most common and discouraging thing they experience after taking up a pipe.
We're at the next step up from that. We don't have to worry about keeping our pipes lit anymore. For us it's about establishing the proper cadence for the best flavor and experience. And that just comes with time.

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thoughts on Oom Pauls? this ones Dunhill estate 215USD

>>966247
Great if you're a clencher.
I'm not, so they're not my cup of tea. I'm more a plain old billiards and bulldogs kind of guy.
If you want a Dunhill go for it. They're the uber-collectible brand in the pipe world, so prices are sky high for them, but they are undoubtedly fantastic pipes.

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who /church warden/ here?

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>>966388
Churchwarden. Yes!

>>966405
Mine recently snapped due to the cold weather. Any recommended brands to replace it with?

>>966408
nope. i buy basket or estate. so no clue.

knowing your budget might help

>>966410
I'd be willing to drop up to $75, maybe $100 is it's of exceptional quality.

>>966430
well id recomend go telling your local pipe shop that, if you have one, other then that maybe some other anon can come along and help?

Anyone smoke twisted tobacco? Any recommendations? Also, are there any major brands that use rustica? I've read about people who have made their own blends and include it as a base, but I'm not into blending yet and just want to try some.

>>965953
I used to be a cigarette smoker (pack a day) and it's a fix, an addiction. Rather than buy pre-rolled cigarettes you could roll your own. Those aren't chemically treated the same and it's a more soothing sort of smoke. I couldn't get into smoking pipes and cigars until I stopped smoking cigarettes because I was used to inhaling and getting my nicotine fix in five-minute sessions.

After having been a non-smoker for a few years I got back into smoking, but went with cigars at first (and a pipe now) in order to enjoy the flavor and act of smoking. I've tried a cigarette and they make me nauseous, smell terrible in comparison, taste horrible, etc. Having read up on the tobacco industry and the shit they put into cigarettes it's no wonder.

So, again, buy some quality loose tobacco and roll your own if you want a cigarette (or buy cigarillos if you don't plan on inhaling since, in my opinion, they're a much better value and experience.) Otherwise, try some cigars, pick up a cheap corncob and some OTC tobacco, and welcome to the club!

>>966472
Rustica isn't that popular, mostly because the nicotine content is so high. Most strains over here are geared more toward maximum nicotine content for insecticide production.
Reportedly there are some Russian varieties (Russia took to rustica in a big way for personal consumption because it will grow just fine in cold climates) that can be cured to taste ok, but good luck finding them over here.
If you want to find some rustica, try finding Mapacho-that's what they call it in South America. It usually comes in rolls for ceremonial use but occasionally you can find some loose stuff.

>>966472
I've never tried it but I think smokingpipes.com carries Gawith, Hoggarth & Co., which has some twist tobaccos available.

>>966388
the most /out pipe out there. Aragorn knows his stuff

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Always feel kind of guilty for using church grounds for smoke spots since i dont pay church tax.
but more and more parks are removing benches .. oh well

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dug through some old phone pics and found this.
Copenhagen is undergoing some metro construction and this was on one of the walls. pictures of stuff they found while excavating

looks like a lovely pipe. never seen a clay pipe with a cap before

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>>966659
I always figured pic related was more of an ideal /out/ pipe since it's designed to fit nicely in a shirt pocket

>>967055
but its ugly tho

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is this what you guys imagine you look like while /out/

>>967346
Knowing its form follows its function I don't find it ugly, but I wouldn't expect to get compliments on it either.

>>967441
>dress shoes
>bedroll (or tent) so high up you can't wear your hat
>clenching a long, straight stem
also, is he wearing a monocle?

>>967526
>>clenching a long, straight stem
i do this, whats wrong with this?

>>967528
by itself, nothing. but from my experience i wouldn't do it while walking around with a full bowl because the one time i tried it on a trail the bowl bounced around and i lost most of the tobacco. at least with a bent stem the bowl is canted forward so much.

>>967441
is that a fucking knife in his sock?

where in your mouth do you keep you pipe?
>left
>center
or
>right
?

what is the mora of pipes?

>>967603
if you mean cheap, available, and perfectly functional then it's a corncob pipe.
For $7 you get a fantastic smoking pipe that you won't be afraid to take anywhere and everywhere.

>>967590

Keep moving it around in order to prevent tongue bite.

but for some reason it feels more natural on the left side of my mouth.

>>967590
Like >>967744 said, you don't keep it any one place. You move it around so you don't get tongue bite, aka steam burns on the inside of your mouth.

>>967590

I tend towards right, but generally as I start smoking, I switch to all over once the bowl starts going down.

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ITT plebs

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>>965669
I just got my first little tin of Frog Morton and Im really enjoying it so far.

Im still fairly new to the hobby and dont smoke more than a couple times a week mostly but heres my new pipe and some Dunhill Durbar. Breaking it in with Frog Morton mostly but had to try the durbar too.

The Durbar is really deep for me. Seems almost like incense in the nose and an earthy mid note, but ive only had two bowls of it. I think ill have some longevity from it for sure before I have it pegged down. Hoping to share it with a friend. I like the handfeel of this rougher pipe too. Now that I have two I think I will relegate my other one to just virginia blends.

But yeah, Frog Morton would be an awesome relaxing tobacco for /out/. Evening time in an alpine meadow, sitting against a log watching the sun set over the valley below you. A hot cup of tea to ward off the evening chill, and a nice bowl of Frog Morton to forget the cares of the civilized world.

There is seriously no better compliment to /out/ for comfiness.

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Bought the meme lighter

I like it

It works well

>>967590
left mostly, since i tamp and light with my right hand, but i switch it up some to the right. almost never in center.

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>>967441
That or this

>>967890

>going for basic bitch "le best cigar" recommendations
>falling for the cuban meme in 2017
>actually buying disgusting cigarillos
>looking down upon patrician pipe smokers whilst doing all of the above

Too bad you're a poser, because the Siglo is reasonably good for what it is, but its probably lost on your pleb palate.

>>968427
That's ok.
He may not care, but we can experience magnificent tobaccos like 965, Three Nuns or Escudo in our pipes and know in a moment just how wrong he is.

>>968497

My negro, currently halfway through a tin of 965. I'm thinking of going for Sam Gawith's Lakeland Dark Flake next.
I've heard about Three Nuns but never tried it, is it something you smoke quite regularly?

>>968497
>>968562
i would like to know about three nuns as well

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>>965242

>filters keep getting lodged into my pipe's stem and requires 5000 hours of fishing it out with a paper clip

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>>968580
>using filters

>>968581

yeah I've finally given up on 'em for good. No more of the meerchaum jew for me after the hundredth time.

>>968584
>>968580

What are you on about m8, filters aren't exclusive to meerschaum pipes you know. Or did i misunderstand your post?
Just had some 965 in a meerschaum with a cup of earl grey, was pretty comfy.
Anyway if you're going to use filters just grab a tweezer or use one off of a swiss army knife.

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>>968562
>>968572
It's a famous and much-copied coin cut blend that was off the market for a while and has just started coming back.
I can't speak to how it compares to the older blend, but the new stuff is remarkable in its own right. Full-bodied but smooth, flavorful yet not overpowering and the little coins are easy to stuff into a pipe.
I bought a tin locally a little while back and had smoked a couple of bowls before moving on to trying other things and just forgot about it. I found it again recently, filled a pipe and suddenly one bowl turned into three. I was left wondering why I keep fooling around with all sorts of other blends that just aren't this good.

>>968595

meershaum filters, not pipes.

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my first pipe

>>968607
what is this pipe shape called? bent bulldog?

>>968612
Bent Rhodesian.
A Rhodesian is a bulldog style bowl with a round shank instead of diamond.

>>968662
thank you

>>967578
I think it's called a 'dirk' - a dagger.

My uncle carried one in his sock when he hiked across Pakistan way back when.

>>968600
>>968572
>>968562
After doing a little more research on it, here's what I know about Three nuns now:

It used to be a Va-perique blend, but the formula got changed some years ago and now it's a Va-dark fired Kentucky blend.
They don't say, but my guess is it probably was changed in response to the perique supply crunch of about 10 years ago. There was just one grower of perique in the whole world, they were struggling and it looked about to go away forever. The situation has stabilized since, and I'll give credit where it's due-American Spirit cigs really brought perique back into the public consciousness as a premium product again. But that said, there wasn't any guarantee of that happening at the time. I won't blame a company for trying to ensure the continued existence of a well loved and popular product. Especially not when Camel, Marlboro, Newport and dozens of other manufacturers including Coke and Pepsi have done the exact same thing.
But that said, the hard decision to change it was made, and it's different now. It's not bad by any stretch of the imagination, but neither is it what longtime smokers remember from years before.

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Pipe of the Night

Butz-Choquin full bent with Three Nuns.
The BC is the only briar pipe I've bought new, and the more I smoke it, the better it gets. It is getting quite good now.
Three Nuns is my new obsession. You have to go slow and sip it, but it's worth the time. It really sings in this pipe too.
Another thing I'm finding is that some of my older pipes were dip-stained, where the briar was just dipped in a vat of wood stain instead of being stained by hand. It's a cheaper way to finish a pipe, but there are drawbacks. Where the stain gets onto the inside of the bowl and stummel, it makes the smoke taste bad. I'm trying to get the stain out of the stems as much as I can, but it's going slowly right now.
What I didn't appreciate about the BC was that its bowl and stem are coated with carbon, which is flavor neutral. It's a quality touch I didn't even think of, and it makes for a good smoke right out of the box.
Those guys in St. Claude sure know what they're doing when it comes to pipes.

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Orlik golden slice

One of the most "available" tobacco near me. So it's usually what I end up with if I run out of tobacco while put and about

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How do I smoke a pipe without looking like a twat?

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>>969313
by being self confident and not caring what other people thing

>>969313
pretty much this >>969319

don't make a show of it, don't use it as a conversation starter unless you run into another pipe smoker at a party or gathering of some sort. the twats are the ones who do it for attention and to look different.

i like smoking alone or with a friend who also smokes a pipe or maybe cigar, but mostly i enjoy smoking in silence. it generally takes me at least 45 minutes to smoke a bowl (unless i rush and get plenty of tongue bite, or pack a smaller bowl) so it isn't something i usually do in public anyway unless i'm at a park or just ambling around. normally i smoke at home on my back porch in peace and quiet

>>969313
>>969319

Agree with based mads, but it's always good to consider environmental context when smoking too. For example:

Outdoors - whenever, wherever
City - keep other people in mind when you smoke,. I usually don't smoke near kids/women if in an enclosed space and don't smoke when walking around on the street, but thats just me. People usually have a positive association with pipes and pipe tobacco smell, so being courteous helps keep things that way. Fedora tipping stereotypes and blowing smoke into people's face is exactly what I like to avoid.

Also keep in mind that there are places where you will look like a twat no matter what your intentions. For example, smoking a pipe in a nightclub is being a poser (depending on the club ofc) because its clearly an awkward and inconvenient place to have a smoke, thus implying it is done for the sake of image.
Smoking outside a coffee shop or a park bench makes far more sense and is far more enjoyable.
Best choice is somewhere quiet with a friend.

One thing I've tried is the "cigars when social and a pipe when solitary" approach. Cigars require far less attention to keep lit after the prep work is out of the way, but I think the above advice still applies. Don't smoke at the expense of someone else's comfort.
Happy smoking!

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Might be encroaching on "pipe of the night" anons territory here but oh well

pipe of the night:
Meerschaum billard.
Peterson Irish flake

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okay, ive been thinking.
a challange of sorts. a thing ive always wanted to try, is to light a fire with the ember from my pipe.

thats the ultimate goal,
>light pipe
>walk to campsite
>dump aaaaaaalmost out ember into fluffed up birchbark
>light up fire

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>>969519
am i the only one to want this?

>>969521
Hell, people have accidentally set forest fires with cigarettes before. Why not?

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>>969555
encounteres this when i was hiking in a forest near Gammel Rye where, for the first time i saw a saign saying " tobacco smoking not allowed within X distance of trees"

anyone whos ever tried frictionfire would regard a tiny as fuck speck of an ember flying out of a pipe and igniting a forestfire a mock by the gods

>>969445
Nice. I've got a similar meerschaum with a smaller bowl and a shorter shank.
Mine is quite evenly coloured though, how come yours is darker at the shank?
The top of the bowl is charred black on mine however, i got it when I was still a relative beginner.

>>969600
"collouring" on meerschaums ussually stats at the stem. as far as i know

>>969600
>>969605
as for charring at the rim, dont hold the flame as close to th rim. thats about it

Thinking about getting a pipe lads. Any recommendations for a beginner?

>>969652
Corn cob pipe.
Also how do you lads deal with the cancer risks that gets to me sometimes

>>969652
I'll second the corn cob pipe suggestion. Cheap, good, fun. Love me a cob.

>>969706
Oral cancer? It's not all that common really.

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>>969652
corn cob is awesome for a cheap starter. or not even a starter since there are stories of people using the same one for many years. i just got pic related for $10 on amazon and it is just about perfect, from the bowl shape and volume to how it smokes cool, to the weight and balance. i couldn't have asked for a better first corncob. i prefer it over a cheap briar pipe i picked up at a drugstore and use it every day.

Thanks for helping out I'll look at for a decent corn cob one. Problem is only amazon the shipping is too much for me or it does not ship to my country (New Zealand). Cheers again

>>969706
You deal with the risks by learning about the real numbers.
The cancer risks from pipes are dependent upon how much you smoke and whether you inhale the smoke or not. Pipe smoke isn't supposed to be inhaled. If you do, it's got a risk like smoking unfiltered cigarettes. If you don't, the risk is much less.
How much less? Let's put it this way:
If you're a heavy pipe smoker and go through 10 bowls a day, your cancer risk is about 50% higher than a nonsmoker's (for reference, a pack a day cigarette smoker has a greater than 1200% higher cancer risk vs a nonsmoker). Go all the way down the scale to a casual smoker who consumes 2-3 bowls per week, and now you're talking an incidence rate elevated by just 5%. That's statistically insignificant.

So is it more dangerous in an absolute sense? Yes, of course.
HOW MUCH more dangerous? Not very.

>>969868
New Zealand is a tough place to get smoking supplies.
I know you know this, but just for everyone else reading:
The selection of pipes and tobacco is very limited and expensive thanks to the punitive taxes and anti-smoking crazies. Pipe tobacco costs about $100 per 50g tin thanks to NZ's tax rate of over $1000 per kilo of tobacco content.

There are no easy answers for you.
Best I can say is look around at secondhand shops for pipes. Looking at some online shops in NZ, a new cob will run you $25, which isn't bad, considering.
It's the tobacco where you'll get raped, and there's nothing anyone can really do about that. If you order internationally, you'll still be charged import duty when it comes through customs. Best I can say is try to find some like-minded people and get in on a bulk buy from one of the big online shops overseas. That's probably your best bet to get good selection and legal cost savings.

going to Nice this Easter, anyone know any french tobaccos? something to try while there?

or any smoke shops in Nice?

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>>968427
I know this is a pipe thread, but could you or someone else recommend some cigarillos? I've thought about trying them since they're a quick smoke and I can't always make time for a pipe. I'm not much of a cigar smoker (maybe once a year) so I don't know what's a good one to start with. I saw pic related for $10 online so I'll wind up trying those unless I get a better suggestion.

>>970205

Hey buddy. I can't honestly recommend cigarillos at all since the ones I've tried are usually disgusting compared to a cigar or a pipe. I think this has a lot to do with the types of leaf used (usually meh quality) and the fact that they are often machine produced. This results in a terrible taste and a harsh smoke.
There may be fine hand rolled cigarillos but I'm not aware of them.

For a portable smoke I'd like to recommend Rocky Patel Vintage 1990 Juniors. They are about a 15-20 min smoke and very nice and convenient.

https://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/rocky-patel-vintage-1990-junior-cigar-tin-p-12627.html

These cigars are what got me into cigar smoking a few years ago and are a very good introduction I think. Not ridiculously expensive either, at least in the UK

>>970047
France isn't a tobacco wonderland like Northern Europe, England or the United States are. Most of their stuff is just plain old tobacco of one kind or another.
The old French standby is Caporal Scaferlati and has been around for over 200 years.
Be warned, though: those little gray and blue cubes contain some potent stuff. Go slow and easy.

>>970210
Thanks, m8. I'm going to check my local store to see if they offer that and if not I'll probably have to order online.

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I used to smoke a pipe but my tongue and throat felt bad so I stopped

>>970407
have you gotten rid of your pipes or do you still have them? im pretty sure i´d still keep them as decoration if i stopped

>>970401

Good luck, if you particularly enjoy the smoke, Vintage 1990's come in bigger sizes.

>>970407

As in tongue bite or you felt it was unhealthy?

Early weekend golf pipe.
Got some 965 in my Brewster to help remedy the ruination of my good walk.

>>970407
Don't inhale. Pipe smoking isn't like cigs, you're not supposed to suck that down into your lungs. All it will give you is a bad time all around.
Also, Go slower and move your pipe around your mouth. You're not a train, there's no need to smoke like one. Wait at least 10-15 seconds between puffs and sip, don't draw.

But if bad got to worse and you really don't want to continue, let some of us know. I'm sure there are a bunch of new guys here who'd want them.

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>>970700
And here's the pic

>>970703
gotta get to trying that 965

>>970205
Those are my go to anon, they come in 3 flavors. White tin is regular, red tin is some rosemary or something idk I didn't like it. Blue is mint I think.

I just buy the white, will probably buy a blue to see what it is.

Can't go wrong with what you have pictured.

>>970883
That's good to hear. I added them to an order so I hope to get to try them early next week. I'm about to head to my shitty local discount tobacco store, which has a relatively decent cigar selection. Are there any others you've tried? Also, do they taste or burn cheap? I've had some Swishers before (which are about the cheapest machine rolled cigars I've ever smoked) and they aren't something I'd make a habit of smoking.

>>970711
It's famous for a reason.
If you've never tasted Latakia tobacco before (I hadn't) it'll be different from what you're used to, but still good.
It smells like a campfire but tastes very rich with a lot of little flavors.

>>971122
Flavors like what anon?

>>971273
Latakia is a smoke-cured tobacco first and foremost.
As far as the rest of the little flavors, it's hard to be precise-How DO you describe the flavor of smoked tobacco when you taste it in tobacco smoke?
Not being a professional taster, I don't know the words. I also don't know how to translate what those words might mean to a professional taster into words that might mean something to you. About all I can say is that it adds up to a rich, full flavor that you don't normally get from other tobaccos. You can taste some of the smoke flavor, but mostly the smoke is transparent for lack of a better term. What you taste more of are the differences between the tobacco itself and flavors imparted from the wood used to smoke it.
Think of it like the difference between a steak grilled over propane and a steak grilled over hickory coals and you might start to get an idea of how it's different.

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anyone ever tried longpipes? porcelain or such?

>>965428
Where are you going /out/? Jutland somewhere?

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>>970205

Backwoods, my nigga.

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>>972107
that pics from Jutland yes, but i /out/ a lot of places

>>970205
My go-to cigar recommendation is an Arturo Fuente Flor Fina 8-5-8 in the maduro wrapper.
Not too expensive for a premium ($9 a stick last I checked), not too big, consistently good quality, burns evenly, and is widely available. It's a great introduction to good cigars.
Alternatively, if you want a top-notch cigar to get for your one per year and money is no object, you can't go wrong with a Montecristo #2. It's expensive, but that's for a reason-it's a flagship cigar from a famous name, and they put the effort in to keep the quality up.

>>965269
My father smoked a pipe and my grandfather smoked a pipe.
Also it's comfy

>>965269
I picked up pipe smoking when I went to England.

>>966388
Love mine, never take it /out/ though because I'd hate to break it

>>967590
I always start on my right to light it then i switch from left to right throughout, never center though, that's for cigarettes

>>966179
I'm using that karaoke simile

>>967441
Entirely unpractical I imagine he looked different by the end of that walk. Still a neet pic tho.

>>969313
Depends if you can pull it off. Some people can some can't. Baby faced manlets or fatties try to make themselves look like adults by smoking or wearing fedoras and the like. Yo don't wanna be that guy.

>>972688
I went to England once when I was young. I walked right into a Englishmen's smoke and nearly died. He seemed mildly distressed but being English just sort muttered something polite and kept walking. Funny how now I love my pipe

>>965242
Man. Ramses pipes look so good from the side but so goofy head on

what kind og compliments/comments do you guys get on your pipes/when your smoking?

>>973340
Most common is "that smells really good"
Sometimes I get "is that a pipe?" Or"are you smoking a pipe?" In which I reply "no"

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I only have one pipe, its the first one I bought about 6 years ago. The Missouri Pride corn cob pipe, it was cheap and has served me well. I haven't smoked in a couple years but seeing this thread made me go dig it out, I'll have to swing by the tobacco shop one night after work. I had originally wanted to get a some sort of briar pipe, but everything I read ended up steering me right to the good old Missouri Meerschaum. Low maintenance, easy of use, and the price point...I don't see how anything else could be much better except from an aesthetics standpoint ( I personally love how they look). Looks like they have 3 churchwarden style pipes...kind of want to pick one up.

>>973340
Very often I get natives coming up to me asking if its devil's lettuce. Or he occasional gentlemen quip. The latter makes me feel like king of the neckbeards

>>973340
I ussually get the "cool. my grandfather smoked a pipe"or variation there of

I get plenty of positive attention at bars for it both from guys and girls which is nice

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Taking out the cobbit with some missouri meerschaum country gentlemen along with some crown royal northern harvest rye

>>974503
Did you have to order that cobbit directly from the manufacturers site? That seems to be the only place I have seen it for sale...amazon has the other 3 cobbit models but not that one.

>>973340
People are pretty positive about it but mostly i smoke at work.

Actually, there is a seriously bizarre number of people i work with who smoke a pipe too. Thats where i was introduced to it.

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I smell like cherries now

>>974680
are you a librarian or do you work in a museum? Or archive?

>>970205
worth 10 bucks for sure, but those things burn quick as fuck. id say 3 minutes or so per smoke.

>>974712
Lol, Im an EMS Captain. I know three Paramedics who smoke pipes, and at my part time fire job theres another firefighter who likes pipes and cigars. Theres only four of us who work there as paid staff so thats still a bizarre 50% of staff...

>>974601
Ya I usually get direct from MM. Thinking of ordering their dagner poker cob soon

>>974722
Are they a pleasant smoke? I want to get a couple of churchwardens. I was always under the impression cob pipes were cheap entry level type pipes, am I wrong here?

>>974721
Also, unrelated, but did mods finally accept pipe general as /out/ culture? Nice to see the thread not instantly deleted. As popular as it is, it seems to have proven itself.

Ill take some pics next shift from my normal smoking spot at work. We have stairs to the station roof where I like to go and have a puff at night when its not snowy and frigid.

>>974724
Your not wrong. But they are not "just" for entry level

>>974724
They are quite a pleasant smoke. The corncob is naturally very moisture absorbent and they are very forgiving of beginner mistakes.
Their big problem is burn through. Corncobs aren't that fire resistant. Which is why the cheaper MM pipes have the stem going all the way through the bottom of the bowl and the more expensive ones have a hardwood plug in the bottom. With just that, their lifespan goes up from bowls to years.
Not bad for a $7 pipe.
About the only thing they're just never going to be is photogenic.

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>>974792
I dunno, as a churchwarden they kind of look nice. I might try one.

Nice day for some frogmorton in my Baraccini rustic. First day this year Ive actually had more than 5 minutes to sit out and relax.

And yes I know my Merrels look like I robbed a bum, theyre like 6 years old and have been to hell and back, leave them be.

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Really like the accents and hand feel. I think P&C still has their sale running.

>>975072
Churchwardens are a nice smoke. Nice and cool. The cobbit wizard from MM is pretty giant though. The bowl's the size of my fist. Not meant for a short smoke.

>>975072
>>975076
what shape would you say this pipe is?

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Happy birthday to me
Butz-Choquin Scandinavian Bulldog filled with Dunhill Flake.

First time with the Dunhill Flake.
It is very, very good. Rich Virginia flavor with no harshness or bite. Love at first taste.

>>974712
>anyplace allows smoking indoors anymore
>especially a government building full of valuable paper products.

>>974726
Kind of, but I also tried focusing more on what you're doing while enjoying your pipe this time around. That and keep things more on-topic and tolerate less thread-goes-to-hell shitposting.

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>>975126
It looks like a Pot shape to me. With the oval stem it could be a Lovat, but I would expect the stem to be a little longer than it is.

>>975126
Pipe chart anin got it. Its a pot shape.

>>965242
Hey all- not a pipe-owner and only an incidental smoker. I am however an amateur wood carver.

I want to carve a pipe from a single piece of wood. I know this isn't how it's normally done, and if that's a catastrophic idea please explain.
My question is: is oak ok for carving a pipe? I have a bunch right now. I might be able to scrounge some applewood.

>>972680
That's how i got into it too.
My dad smoked maybe once ever two weeks. Even when i was a kid i always loved the smell.

>>975181
A one-piece pipe isn't catastrophic. It just makes it harder to clean.
And oak isn't that uncommon for pipes. Pipes have been made of oak when briar is either scarce or too expensive for whatever reason.
Give it a shot and let us know how it works out.

>>975243
thanks, anon.
looking at >>975169's chart i was thinkin of something with a straight stem and a wide bowl to make it easy on myself. i figure that'll simplify cleaning as well.
i'll give it a shot and report back with data if not pics

any recommendations on what to finish/varnish it with? i mainly do linseed for tool handles and beeswax for utensils, but i feel that'd be asking for flamable trouble.
i haven't googled this yet, i just figure kind anons can save me some newb fumbles.

>>975354
why use a varnish at all?

Whats the consensus on used pibes?
Collectibles only or do people smoke on them too?

>>975354
Use whatever you like, as long as you don't get the finish on the inside of the bowl or stem. Then it tastes bad.

The most common finishing materials for custom pipes are wood stain for whatever color you want it to be and then carnauba wax to make it shiny.
People love to give all sorts of sales pitches for why carnauba wax is magic, but I think mostly it's because you don't have to deal with the paint fumes and learning curve needed to do a lacquer finish right. You just rub the wax on thin, let it dry, polish it up on a buffing wheel, and it comes out shiny.
Carnauba wax is very available (look for it in auto parts stores-most car waxes sold in jars are carnauba wax based), easy to apply, durable and buffs up to a really nice glossy finish.
Beeswax works too. I've used beeswax on my meers and that makes for a nice finish. It's not quite as glossy or durable as carnauba, but it makes for a good looking satin finish that lasts too.

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>>975433
estate pipes are great way to snap up great pipes at a way more approachable price

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>>975433
Over 90% of the stuff i have I got used, and I would recommend it to anyone. It's a cheap way to get really high quality stuff.
We are currently in a golden age of pipe availability. The old guys who had all sorts of interesting stuff are dying out and their families either don't know about it or don't care, so they are practically giving it away to anyone with interest. For $20 you'll often have your pick of stuff and can afford to be choosy.

I've found an early Lane Era Charatan pipe for $25, and an unsmoked Falcon pipe for $8 locally in junk shops. The Falcon is a $60 pipe when new and the Charatan was nearly new and every bit as good as a Dunhill when it was made. Put them together and I've got two premium pipes for less than the price of a single Dr. Grabow in a drug store, and one of them was the price of buying a cob.
Online it's the same way. Buy a pipe stand and people will often throw in pipes for free. I got 3 pipes thrown in for free when I bought a $10 pipe rack. Two of those pipes were brand new. If you know what you're looking at, you can get a lot of great deals.
One thing I would advise you to do is invest in pipe cleaners, 91% isopropyl alcohol, paper towels and maybe a pipe reamer. Often the REALLY good pipes will be plugged with trash and their bowls caked with ash buildup from being loved to death. I went through two packs of pipe cleaners on my first meerschaum before it was cleaned out, and another pack on a GBD I found for $10. Both have turned out to be fantastic pipes.

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Spring really is popping up everywhere

>>975169
Question for all: If you had to choose just one bowl shape which would it be? Also, which one do you think provides the best overall smoking experience?

>>975587
only one pipe shape ever?
well i would have to go classic and boring and choose a bent billard

>>975587

Straight billiard without a doubt, for me at least.
Really, a good smoking experience depends more on what tobacco you're smoking, what material the pipe is made of and how you smoke.

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My wife got me this as a birthday present, primarily for the leather belt holder. Anyone know if this metal bowl set in what feels almost like bakelite is safely smokable? It looks like some cheapo thing out of china.

Leather holder fits a few of my other pipes though, so thats cool.

>>975587
It's a personal choice.
The most popular shape by far is the standard billiard (bowl height roughly equal to the length of the wooden stem before it attaches to the mouthpiece) in either bent or straight form.
If you're the anon making the pipe, I'd advise you to do a straight billiard first just for ease of drilling. It's a lot easier to make sure the draft hole lines up properly with the bowl drilling when everything is nice and square, and that's what matters most for a good smoking pipe.

>>975643
i (>>975181) am not >>975587
i'd thought of the straight vs bent stem thing as well. i'm currently thinking something like a slightly long-stemmed straight billiard, angled like a cutty, and a flattened bottom like the tankard. freestanding, easy to clean

>>975439
thanks anon. everything you said confirms what i read about doing the bowl btw. i think the first attempt will be beeswax since i already have so much on hand.

expect more questions as the project gets closer to completion!

>>975640
the draw hole is at an odd angle

>>965242
Had my left lung removed at 38. Legal edibles. Totally worth it.

>>975640
It's smokable, but you might not like it so much.
There are lots of heat-resistant plastics out there that can withstand the temperatures of embers burning in pipe bowls. The problem is that they don't do many of the things that people like about briar pipes.
For one thing, they're solid plastic, which means they're heavy. A typical plastic pipe weighs about 4 ounces, over twice as much as a comparably sized pipe made of briar.
For another, they're not porous and don't naturally absorb moisture like wood or corncobs do. If you have a tendency to smoke a little too fast, those pipes will tend to collect moisture in the bottom of their bowls that can gurgle, and in some cases can come up the mouthpiece and give you a taste of wet tobacco tar mixed with ashes. That's no fun at all.
The third thing they do is smoke hot. You have to consciously smoke them slower than you're used to because once they heat up, they will retain that heat for quite a long time. This not only makes it hard to hold in your hand, it can also dry out the tobacco very rapidly, causing many of the flavors to fade away into nothingness. If you smoke fast, it can even happen before your bowl is half done.

>>965242
I'm sure this has come up in the thread already and I missed it, sorry.

Should I smoke a pipe if I was a smoker before? Smoked cigs for 9 years and quit because the habit was annoying and the smell/health issues got to me. Wouldn't picking up the pipe just bring back those things?

>>975713

There's three draw holes actually.

>>975723

It might be something I try once or twice, but it looks like a motherfucker to clean as well. There's a small space below the metal bowl it looks like, and I can't seem to get the metal bit out.

I was almost thinking it was sold for smoking things that aren't tobacco, but that's a bit out of my experience.

How do y'all carry your pipes and supplies when going /out/? Im going on a 2 week hiking trip and I wasnt sure how I should carry everything.

>>975796
For work I just have a front pocket on my backpack. I throw my pipe and a tin in there with a lighter and pipe nail in my pocket. Seems fine.

Outside I would say just put it in a top pocket or somewhere its not going to get a compression strap across it. Maybe stuff it in a sock to protect from scratches? Or, there are special pouches that will hold a pipe. Some even have a tobacco pocket.

>>975821
Gotcha,i was thinking one of the side pockets on my pack, and i was planning on keeping my tobacco in a ziplock bag, would that be sufficient?

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>>975821

Probably plastic bag for tobacco. Ive personally wrapped pipes in clean(ish) clothing to keep it moderately protected. Pipe tool can kinda get shoved anywhere. method of lighting, the same.

>>975725
As a former pack a day smoker (and new pipe smoker) I haven't had an issue with it. Since quitting cigarettes about seven years ago I've had the occasional cigar and loved it, but I've always been drawn to a pipe and in general it's cheaper to smoke (at least it has been in my experience.)

The amount of nicotine you'll get will vary, but it's not the same as a cigarette. You won't be inhaling and getting that immediate rush, you won't have to worry about additives put in to increase the nicotine rush, and you probably won't smoke a pipe as often as you smoked cigarettes. I'm content with one bowl a day because any more would require me to either smoke indoors (which I don't do since I live with non-smokers) or to spend more time sitting outside smoking. Nothing wrong with the latter, but each bowl takes me close to an hour to smoke and I don't usually have a lot of time to spare on a second one. If I began smoking indoors I'm sure I'd go through four or five bowls if not more, but for now that isn't a concern.

I quit smoking cigarettes because of trouble breathing, sleeping, and some bad cardiovascular concerns. So, smoking a pipe is a good compromise since I don't take in the smoke, don't get a lot of nicotine out of it, and typically don't smell bed since I tend to go for pleasant aromatics.

>>975796
Throw everything into a ziplock bag.
That way when it's time to pack up, it's grab and go. It's what I do.

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>>975587
Bent bulldog. That little groove around the bowl is so aesthetic

>>976041
I'm sorry for the gimongus photo size. Forgive me /out/

>>972680
Most stupid reason ever given. Literally just stop.

>>965893
No way

>>975867
A bag would be lighter, yeah. Then I could keep it in my HPG kit bag on my chest.

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>>976043
>literally mfw

>>975827
That's what I'd do.
It works, it's light and it's cheap.

>>975796
tobacco, pipe, tamper and lighter fits perfectly into one of the belt pockets on my Osprey AG, so thats where they go

>>976059
I'll bite,

I don't smoke because of some obligation because they did. I walked by a cigar and tobacco shop after I moved to DC, I went inside one day and saw all their pipes (which reminded me of my father and grandfather), they let's me try a bowl of one of the local blends and I chat with some people in a part with lounge chairs.
I had a good experience so I bought pipe/tobacco/cleaners/tool.

>>975921
I think thats what im gonna do, seems like a good way to keep it all together

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If anyone says pipe tobacco. I think Orlik golden sliced. Actually first time tryimg it on flake form.

Gonna be nice

Whelp, imma give this pipe (>>975640) a try this afternoon. Here's hoping it doesn't have anything in it that will kill me.

>>976251
That looks delicious. I think my next order is going to include some Escudo navy medallions, might try that Orlik or Dunhill Flake too.

anyone know if any pipe smoking podcasts exist? im pretty new to the whole podcast game

>>965269
The very first time I tried it was an attempt to curtail a cigarette habit. That didn't take and I left it alone for a while. I got back into it because I wanted something tasty to puff on that wasn't as strongly flavored as a cigar. I like trying the wide variety of tastes, the pipe porn (and the hope of being able to afford a decent collection), and the compliments I get on the smell which never happened with a cigar or cigarettes.

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thoughts on bulldogs?

>>976407
Not a huge fan of the bulldog shape. I think I want a rhodesian next, or maybe a diplomat.

what your preferred "innawoods" pipe?

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Took this pipe to my fav bar night to friday. Do get quite a lot positive comments on it. More then usual.

But there's a reason churcgwaredena are sold a TV pipes.

Surprise surprise not very made for night life and "outside the bar-comon bro when are ya done. I've smoked two cigs already"kind of smokes

>>976465
Phpne pistyng?

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>>976407
Love 'em.
Have a bunch, plus some related shapes too.
>on L from top: French GBD Sauvage, pre-WWII Paris-made GBD, Webco, and "The Pipe"
>on R: Butz-Choquin Scandinavian Bulldog, Brewster Rhodesian

>>976320
Weird that you ask I am not a pipe smoker (but interested) and because of this thread I found this website http://oompaul.com.

They sell pipes but they have a podcast on there that I have listened to. It seems informative

>>976427
Corncob all the way.

Smokes great, is light and cheap.
They're also pretty tolerant of getting wet. If one goes swimming by mistake, just set it in the sun for a day to dry out. And if you do manage to break it, a new one is just $7 away at your local drug store. That's 1/4 the price of even a no-name "basket" briar pipe from a local tobacconist

Pipe of the day
Falcon filled with Erinmore Flake.

After trying to smoke whole flakes without very good results, I hit upon rubbing out the flake before packing with the musketball method. That gives a much better smoke.
I'm still undecided about whether I like Erinmore or not, but at least I'll probably finish the tin instead of throwing it all away like I considered before.

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>>977711

>>974724
Corncobs are great from beginner to enthusiast, their only real downside is that they don't exactly look elegant.

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Clearing out grandpa's attic

Neat old coins in neat old tobacco tins

>>978185
Yeah it isn't the prettiest, but it is pretty aesthetic /out/.

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>>968497

I just had some 965 mixture. Really lovely to begin with but do you notice it gets slightly harsh/spicy on the palate halfway through the bowl?
I'm not referring to tongue bite by the way, nor anything to do with burning too hot. It's more in terms of the flavour and the spiciness occurs on retrohaling.
It goes away if I ash and relight.

>>975725
>Should I smoke a pipe if I was a smoker before?
If you want to. That's completely up to you.
The experience will be different from what you were used to, mostly because pipe smoking is slower and more fiddly in general. Also I'm going to tell this to you right now-pipe smoke is not supposed to be inhaled. If you do inhale the smoke, it's like trading filtered cigs for harsh-feeling unfiltered ones, with all of the adverse health effects that come along for the ride.
If however you don't inhale, you'll avoid many of the worst health effects, as well as the heroin-tier addiction cravings too.
Not to say that you can't get hooked, just that it's easier to put it down for a time (or for good) if you want/need to.

>>978468
Yeah, it's completely different from cigarette smoking since you're ingesting much less nicotine (though not necessarily insignificant amounts.) There are times when I can't make time for a bowl for a couple of days and aside from WANTING to smoke I don't feel a NEED to smoke.

>>975587
Probably an apple shape of some type with a flat spot on the bottom so it's also a sitter.

As for smoking, any pipe will smoke awesome if it's drilled properly. I've said it before and I'll say it again: good engineering will produce a good pipe, no matter what the pipe's shape, materials or brand name. Even the pipe shape in the OP (a very hard design to make properly) will smoke great if the holes are properly sized and line up correctly.

So pick whatever catches your eye. All of the pipe designs in >>975169 have been completely worked out by multiple makers and smoke very well. Further, almost all of them have been around for decades and are on the used market in decent numbers. You should be able to easily find a used, good-smoking example for not much cash if you look.

If you need help deciding, look at a straight billiard shape first. It's the most common shape, and what people think a pipe looks like. Literally every maker has made it and they're everywhere. You'll easily find one used and in good shape for $15 or less.

>>978464
I noticed that too when my tin was fresh.
After a week or two had passed, that bit of harsh spiciness had mellowed out very nicely and it got especially pleasant to smoke.

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>>978840
Speaking of which
Enjoyed some 965 in an Aristocob earlier today

>>975722
11/10 would inhale pipe or cigar smoke again

>>978840
>>978846

Thats odd because my tin's been aged for about 5 months.
It's annoying and wouldn't buy another tin if it weren't for the tobacco tasting absolutely brilliant whenever it's not harsh.
I might try ageing it properly in an airtight glass jar next time though.

Nice pipe, might try a corn cob for when im smoking outside and don't want to carry my meerschaum

>>979144
Thanks.
It's cool in a retro-futuristic way, but less functional than it appears. The aluminum body heats up quickly and the corncob bowl needs to dry out between smoking sessions. They originally came with multiple bowls you rotated so you could be smoking one while the others dried out. Forty years later, good luck finding them.
The average $7 cob is much better at being a pipe than this is. And if you haven't tried a cob yet, you need to. They'll spoil you.

>>965242
My big bro and I went on a hunting trip this past December. We didn't get shit but we brought our pipes and a bottle of brandy. That was a good weekend.

How unhealthy is it to pipe smoke?

It sounds relaxing just to smoke when camping.

I'm sure if you only did it once a month I doubt there would be much negative effects.

>>979280
For reference, a pack a day cigarette smoker's risk is 1200% higher than a nonsmoker.
If you're a heavy pipe smoker (10 bowls a day), your cancer risk is 50% higher than a nonsmoker's. If you're a casual pipe smoker (2-3 bowls per week or less), your cancer risk fall to only 5% higher. Given how small the natural risk of cancer is, that's statistically insignificant.

So there's an elevated risk, but not inhaling the smoke keeps you from a lot of negative consequences.

>>979294
Damn

Any source for these claims? Seems not that bad

>>979298

IIRC, those numbers are from THE paper on tobacco use that really chastised the cigarette industry from back in the 60s. They didn't find significant increase in risk on the folks who smoked pipes, especially compared to the users of cigarettes.

>>965242
I think I'm a smoker now. Thanks OP. I bought cheap pipe and cherry ambrosia today, took my horse to the meadow because warm and sunny weather, and lit up my first bowl.
Relaxing af. Will do again.
What Mac Baren tobaccos are good? It's the only brand available here...

>>979472
navy flake

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>>979298
Have a couple of sources here.
The first is from the 1964 Surgeon General's report on Smoking and Health. This is the big, bad study that established the causative link between smoking and cancer and caused warning labels to go onto tobacco packages:
>For current pipe smokers (Table 5), men smoking less than 10 pipefuls per day have death rates very close to those of non-smokers.
>For heavy pipe smokers (10 or more per day) two studies show increases of 15 and 12 per- cent in death rates, but the other two studies show little or no increase.
>The over-all mortality ratio of 1.05 does not differ statistically from unity.
-page 86, (page 93 on PDF)

Another odd fact from the 1964 report: Pipe smokers live longer than nonsmokers?
>Mortality ratios for smokers of cigars only and pipes only who had stopped smoking prior to the date of entry are given in Table 14, the corresponding ratios for current smokers being included for comparison.
>For ex-cigar smokers the mortality ratios are higher than those for non. smokers and higher than those for current smokers in all four studies presented.
>The same is true for ex-pipe smokers with the exception of the Canadian study.
>The interpretation of this result is not clear to us.
-page 94 (PDF page 101)
https://profiles.nlm.nih.gov/ps/access/nnbbmq.pdf

The second has some updated numbers from more current research as well as risk factors of other smoking related cancers.

http://www.seattlepipeclub.org/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=969877&module_id=17020

>>979603
Interesting. Thanks for the info.

It's because you don't inhaul right?

So how do you actually smoke it then?

>>979623
Like a cigar. You pull smoke into your mouth, give it a second or a few, then blow it out.

>>979472
A lot of them are quite good, and Mac Baren is a major name in the pipe tobacco world.
Mac Baren is famous for their cavendish, and their other aromatics are likewise highly regarded.
The Mixture Flake, Navy Flake, Rollcake, Plumcake and Virginia No. 1 are well known classic non-aromatic blends.
Their 7 Seas line of blends (created to replace Captain Black when it went missing from the British market, now distributed worldwide) have been very well received.
In addition to all of those and more, Mac Baren had also started producting other famous name blends under license, namely the two Capstan blends and Three Nuns. All have been done very well.

>>979623

First you do this >>979642

You'll enjoy it somewhat but focus on making sure you're smoking it slow and steadily i.e technique.
Once you've got that down you can try something called retrohaling, where you exhale some (not all) of the smoke through your nose to get a larger variety of flavours.

It's not really a "step 1 step 2" process, some people do it intuitively, some people struggle with it for whatever bizarre reason.

>>979651

didn't mean to namefag, forgot it was there.

>>979623
Yes. Inhaling is bad.

You smoke it like >>979642 said, but the flavors get much more pronounced if you learn how to push the smoke out through your nose.
With the smoke in your mouth, try raising your tongue like you're going to swallow, then blow it out. You'll sense a world of different flavors in the smoke, and discover what pipe smoking is really all about.

Bad news time: it appears Dunhill pipe tobaccos may be discontinued in the near future.
Better stock up while you can.

http://halfwheel.com/dunhill-plans-exit-cigar-pipe-business

>>979674
that cant be true!

>>979674
>vague sources at best
I wouldn't panic just yet.

>>979990
Agreed for now. It looks like people are in negotiations for ownership of the name.
But that's how this stuff goes. It's not exactly GE closing down.

When smoking a pipe, are you supposed to inhale the smoke? I want to start but don't want smoker lungs.

>>980095
No, you're not supposed to inhale.
It's like cigars in that regard-you go slow, sip the smoke and taste/smell it for the flavors in the smoke.

Some people do inhale, mostly because they started on cigs. It doesn't do anything for you other than give you a bad time all around and lung cancer at a rate comparable to unfiltered cigarettes.

what exactly is "english" tobacco? the kind not lanuage

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>>980414
There are two definitions, and they're somewhat related.
It all goes back to a British law from the early 1900s restricting additives that flavored tobacco products.
Before 1986, there was no published list of approved additives, so for nearly 100 years everything that wasn't tobacco in a blend had to go through a cumbersome (and expensive) case-by-case approval process.
You can see the path of least resistance here. British tobacco blenders would use different preparations and varieties of tobaccos to get different flavors without the additives-or governmental approval before taking something to market.

So that, most accurately, is what an English blend is: a blend composed of different tobaccos with no (or minimal) flavorings added.

There's a loophole: the smoke-flavored tobacco Latakia wasn't classified as an additive, but as a tobacco. So lots of blends from England (especially the massively popular Dunhill blends 965, Early Morning Pipe, and Nightcap) made liberal use of it for its distinctive flavor.

And this is where some confusion in terminology enters in. In America, Dunhill 965 is the quintessential English tobacco, and the flavor spawned scores of imitators. So when Americans talk about "an English blend", that's what THEY mean: an all tobacco blend with the flavor of Latakia front and center, just like it is in 965.

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>>976465

I finally got in my order of Bandidos and they are the best cheap cigar I've ever smoked. The construction isn't bad though rustic and the smoke tastes the way a campfire smells. I think with shipping and a [spoiler]reddit discount code[/spoiler] I paid $35 for 60 hand-rolled cigars. I'm fucking pleased.

On another note I just tried some Dunhill 965 and I'm sure I'll warm up to it (I've been smoking aromatics lately.) It tastes good, but it's more subtle so I feel like I'm not getting the full experience yet.

>>966171
I used to have the same problem with my pipes. Two things you can try:
1. Moisten your tobacco a bit before you smoke it. If it's super dry it will burn very hot.
2. puff slower

>>969973
Is it legal to grow tobacco in your yard? That might be a cheaper option.

>>965486

I came to pipe smoking via cigars, so have a fairly well developed palatte and appreciate the flavours of a good tobacco. Lighting a pipe with a wick-based liquid fuel lighter like a Zippo is a HELL NO. It ruins the flavour.

>>981828

Whats the best tobacco that approximates those woody/leathery/nutty types of flavours that are typical to cigars?
Of course im not interested in replicating the flavours (otherwise I would smoke a cigar) but would really like something different to the sweetness of virginia leaf that I am used to.

>>981889
I like Mogano, aka Schurch 146, it contains high quality cigar leaf which gives some nice flavor to the smoke.
Also, quality Balkan or English blends will give you that smoky savory taste.
>just smoking a bowl of Schurch Onyx 128 in a Stanwell Bulldog

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Well boys, what should my evening pipe be?

Im well in to the Frogmorton, tried the Old Dark Fired earlier and it was nice and getting better til work called me away. More Dark Fired? Maybe the Old Dublin? I cant decide!

>>982020

Big heavy meal followed by Old Dark Fired, perhaps with some coffee/tea. It's delicious.

>>981997

Thanks! I'll try it out. English blends don't really get the same level of the smokiness im looking for so might try and some blends much heavier on the orientals.

>>982029
Try a quality Balkan blend then?

>>982038

Yep thats a what I'll go for after I finish my can of sam gawith's FVF and dunhill 965.
I don't think I've ever had a proper balkan blend before so should be exciting.

>>982029
Tea! Good call. Ive got some loose leaf even. Knew I could count on you guys.

Ever notice pipegen is like the mellowest thread? More proof everyone should try a pipe. The only anons more relaxed than us are probably /po/.

>>982041
Im in to a tin of Durbar at home and its interesting. Hard to place the flavors besides 'incense' and 'campfire' for me. I want to get another blend to compare it to.

>>982052
>The only anons more relaxed than us are probably /po/.
Whatever it is you are smoking stop it! nao!

>>982041
Balkan blends are great if you like Latakia leaf, they can be quite complex but the taste is more spicy, smokey, and a bit sweet&sour. I'm not sure if that fits your definition of smoky.
The Mogano blend I was referring to is more creamy and while it sure doesn't taste like a cigar it gives you this full smoke you enjoy after a good meal.

Am I the only one that can't stand toppings, cavendish, seasonings and all the other shit they put in pipe "tobacco"?
I just smoke unseasoned blends with natural tobaccos and love it, but I could vomit every time I have to smell artificial seasonings.

>>982060
I havent tried any cased tobaccos yet, they just seem too artificial and shallow. Like to me its an art to be able to blend natural plants that may have been cured a certain way, and get the flavor youre looking for. Just adding in known constants cheapens it some. I know some people get in to pipes with aromatics, but Id hope they would try these wonderful non aromatics too.

I will probably try some GL Pease who I hear goes very light on casing and topping with tobacco thats already good. But ill have a dedicated pipe for them beforehand so it doesnt ghost me.

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Bought a cheapo pipe to try out pipe smoking

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I have been smoking a pipe for 8 months now and I have really been enjoying it. When I first started it was right around my birthday and I got loaded up with a lot of tobacco.

If all things go well I will be even more overwhelmed with tobacco as I am trying to grow some myself (first sprouts popped up today!!).

Glad to see there are other pipe smokers on here.

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Pipe of the night

On the road to go fishing edition.

Got some Dunhill Flake in my unbranded Savinelli second on a glorious spring evening.
Just so tasty.

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>>982095
In Australia, apparently

Let me try that again

>>982084
>Nightcap
>Hearth and Home
>Is that a nording pipe

mah nigga.

I'm about 8 months in too though I had a hiatus. Great hobby.

The Old Dark Fired really was great after dinner, btw. This one got kind of ashy tasting towards the last third of the bowl though, maybe need to rest this pipe a day?

>>982081
I have the same Cherrywood pipe. Though I've never used it. It's on standby for when my corn cob breaks

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>>982096
red zippo love, aw yea

>>982052
>>982156

Nice, the ODF sounds pretty comfy although I've never had that ashy taste myself. Perhaps try it in another pipe, or play around with the drying time of the flake?

>>982054
>>982058

I'll check out some Balkan blends so thanks for the recommendation.
I'll see if my local shop has Mogano or a blend similar to it.

>>982096
How does it compare to other flakes you've tried?

Do you guys use filters for your pipes? If so, why?

>>969973
>If you're a heavy pipe smoker and go through 10 bowls a day, your cancer risk is about 50% higher than a nonsmoker's (for reference, a pack a day cigarette smoker has a greater than 1200% higher cancer risk vs a nonsmoker). Go all the way down the scale to a casual smoker who consumes 2-3 bowls per week, and now you're talking an incidence rate elevated by just 5%. That's statistically insignificant.
This isn't how risk analyses, health, cancer, statistics, etc. work.

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>>982413

Why do you say that?
Is it because of more variables present that simple frequency of bowls in play when it comes to cancer? Things like family risk, drinking alcohol, different types of cancer?

I guess the guy's point was that the risk was far lower compared to cigarettes but not completely healthy either. I think whether the risk is statistically insignificant depends on the P value but its been a while since I did stats so not sure.

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Pipe at the bar.

I fucking hate how the cap on the Zippo pipe lighter pops off all the time

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>Bla Bla bla risk of cancer
>Ok. But I like the taste so I do it anyway
>ok

That is literally the discussion.

Any law put in place from this point is infringement on individual rights

State gtfo reeeee

>>982664
>3 "females" with dyed hair

What kind of hipster fag degenerate bar do you go to anon?

>>982286
Dunhill flake is just a straight Virginia.
But for as plain as that may sound, it's really not. As with all things Dunhill, it's really well executed. I don't know how they got a pure Virginia to not bite, but they did.
I really like it.

As far as how it compares to the other flakes and flake-esque things I've tried, my experience is still quite limited, but I'd put it either second or first so far.

It and Three Nuns are different, but equally satisfying for different reasons. The DF is just solid all the way around. Three Nuns has a more smoky flavor due to the dark fired Kentucky, but its different tobaccos complement each other very well.
Dunhill's Navy Rolls comes in close behind that. Those Virginia-perique coins took a little getting used to, but once I did, the spicy aspect of the perique were very satisfying.
Erinmore Flake is fourth. I like it a lot better rubbed out, but still haven't quite experienced the magical flavor I've read about. Nevertheless, my tin of it is almost gone and I have no idea how that happened. Maybe I need to get more, you know, for scientific purposes.

And coming in a distant last is Drew Estate's Gatsby Flake. I tried to like it, I really did, but it just kept not doing anything for me. Even when it wasn't bad, it wasn't great either and I kept hoping the next time would be better. Finally decided after half a tin that it just wasn't for me and I had better things to smoke.

>>982691
the degeneratest of them all.
but the musics good and the beer is cheap

>>982691
Could be worse
At least they allow him to smoke

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>>982767

Thanks for the info. My point of reference for virginia flakes is Samual Gawith's Full Virginia Flake so I was wondering if you had tried that for comparison. If not I'd recommend buying a tin or two and cellaring it for about 3 to 6 months at least.

Speaking of Three Nuns, you pretty much convinced me to order a tin (along with some Mac Baren's Vintage Syrian), will probably age it for a few months before trying it. Really looking forward to it.

>>982992
You flatter me.
There's a lot of talk on the net about how 3 Nuns has been wrecked and not what it used to be. And maybe that was true 10 years ago. But things have changed since then too.
The producers have changed-Mac Baren took over from Orlik a few years back-and the reviews since that transition have been much more positive.
Tasted on its own merits the new version currently produced isn't bad at all.

>>982020
you aren't going to leave those tobaccos in the plastic bags, are you?

>>981778
Can tobacco that's too moist burn too hot? Or maybe when I smoke really moist tobacco I puff more in order to keep it lit? I don't know, but I loaded a pipe last night so it'd be ready right when I woke up today (first time doing that) and with the same pipe and same tobacco it smoke so much cooler and smoother.

>>983394
>Can tobacco that's too moist burn too hot?
It' not necessarily that it's burning too hot.
What is really happening is the moisture in the tobacco is flashing into steam, then going up the stem and burning your tongue and mouth. Steam burns are awful things, and that's what tongue bite is.

>Or maybe when I smoke really moist tobacco I puff more in order to keep it lit?
That happens too, and it's yet another reason why tobacco that's too wet is just a bad time all around.

You didn't know it, but you did exactly the right thing by filling your pipe beforehand and letting it dry out before smoking. That is the cure for tobacco that is too moist.

>>983544

Yeah, the real trick is to find the amount of drying required for a specific blend. Some stuff is great straight out of the package. Some stuff, you need to give it a chance to dry out a little. Some things, rarely, you may even need to add a tiny bit of distilled water to 'bring it back to life'.

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>>982903
not inside at that bar, usually go to one where i can smoke inside like 2 hours before going to that bar. but it gets so fucking hot, the smoking inside rules here means that its only small and cramped bars that can allow smoking inside and it makes the pipe get hot as fuck, guess i should just get into the habbit of taking the cob.

watching your delicious pipe smoke battle with the foul cigarette smoke in the air is fucking awesome though is it just me or is pipe smoke "heavier" and "thicker" then cig smoke? you can easily tell the pipe smoke from the cig smoke by just looking at it

smoking Orlik golden sliced now and at that time

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>>984027
sorry for upside down, inb4 Australia. good joke yes i know, i used to use the "wrong" hands for my phone, so fucking sorry

>>965269
My family bought me one to reduce my cigarette intake. In a long run it actually strengthened my habit. I now smoke both, my pipe and cigarettes.

>>965242
Also, what pipe is that?

Pipe of the night.

Baccarat sitter filled with Erinmore. In the cold spring rain. Alone.

>>984161
That's a custom pipe made by Bo Nordh. He called it Ramses. It's rather famous.

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>>984212

>tfw fell for the frog morton meme

>>984740

>tfw wanting to fall for the meme

What went wrong compadre

Pipe of the night

965 in an unknown paneled Apple from the 1920s.
First time with the pipe and it's a nice one. It's sporting a new horn mouthpiece and is nice to clench, if a little shorter than I'm used to.

>>984740
What were you expecting, and what did you get?

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>>984826

Dunhill Nightcap in a Stanwell 191

>>982081
Go slow, puff lightly and don't pack your tobacco too tight.
A lot of those aromatic blends attract moisture and need space to let it escape. It's better to have a 20 minute smoke that's enjoyable than an hourlong ordeal of the tobacco going out, relighting over and over, puffing too fast trying to keep it lit, scorching your tongue and tasting nothing but ashes along the way.
Matter of fact, one of the things I tried was not packing at all. Just fill the pipe, shake it and then top it up and light. Works like a charm. You can always tamp it down later as needed when the smoke starts to get thin. Trying to fix a fill that's too tight usually means dumping the ashes into your hand, and that's no fun.

Last thing about those particular pipes: at the very end of the first bowl in that pipe it will start tasting weird. Go with it and smoke it all the way down. That weird taste is the stem charring and becoming both fireproof and neutral in flavor. it's a necessary step, so you might as well get it over with first thing.

What are some good alternatives to smoking tobacco? I've heard of people smoking green tea or Celestial Seasonings.

>>985017
Dick

>>985026
Nice one, buddy :^)

>>985017
>alternatives
You're in the wrong thread, anon.

>>985017
>>>420chan /tocacco/

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Long shot, but does anyone remember the comfy ass dutch vlogger from SC? i wish his vids were still up, or there was a place to watch them, dude is the reason ever picked up a pipe.
I think he was a stealth homosexual. dude was based up until he took down his vids

>>985017
What would be the point?

Anyone here ever tried to grow their own tobacco?
How did it turn out?

>>985594
I haven't, but here-have some PDFs that explains the basics and how to get decent yields.


http://fairtradetobacco.com/BeginnersHomeTobaccoGrowingFAQ.pdf

http://www.tobaccoseed.co.uk/1886%20book%20on%20growing%20tobacco.pdf

https://www.uky.edu/Ag/TobaccoProd/pubs/id160.pdf

https://www.pubs.ext.vt.edu/content/dam/pubs_ext_vt_edu/AREC/AREC-14/AREC-14-pdf.pdf

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Pipe of the night

GBD Sauvage bulldog with 965

I keep trying to enjoy the last of my Erinmore and failing.
Consoling myself with 965 instead, as lightning lights up the sky around me.

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Hey /out/ Pipe Thread, I got a gift for you!
Local tobacco shop is closing down for a while until their new building is done (hopefully it gets done) and is selling shit for cheap!

I bought this 6lbs bag of their house blend cause its my favorite. Got 40% off too. So I'm passing my savings on to youuuuu!

But seriously, email me using the email in the name field. Give your name and address and I'll send ya a few hand-fulls. It'll be in one of those flat-rate shipping box from whoever does that, UPS I think, or if I find out its cheaper one of those envelopes with bubble wrap on the inside. You know, the ones they ship cheap fleshlights in...... anywho, hit me up anons, this was the thread that got me into pipes.
Always smoked cigars, but damn if I didn't fall in love with pipes.
Thanks fellow /out/doorsmen, you will always be my very best friends.
Even you Pepsi.

>>985700
I'll give it till Sunday the 9th cause this boards kinda slow, so send those emails if you want in!
Also, probably gona limit the amount of bags shipped, so email fast. First come, first served.

Also, feel free to send me something back.
Any non-USA anons around? I'll make you top of the shipping list for out of country goodies.

>>985594
>>985629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn9zG7gR0JY&ab_channel=LarryHall

this is an excellent tutorial for startin from seed. Love larry's raspy ass Minnesota voice

>>985700
Thats very kind of you buddy, if I wasn't UK I'd take you up on the offer (we get taxed on all tobacco products brought into the country). Not sure how they'd tax loose tobacco though!

Man that cob churchwarden is pretty aesthetic looking, I might have to grab me one of those. Ordered a missouri meerschaum patriot with my last order so will be looking forward to that as my first cob. Did you find you needed to do much breaking in with the cob?

>>984901
Thanks for the advice!

I've smoked a few times it's pretty good

What's a good quality pipe I should get that's not a 7 dollar cherry wood?

>>985780
No, I don't recall having to break it in, smoked well the first smoke. Lovely little pipe, no issues with gurgling but the draw cam get hot if you smoke it to fast (though the same can be said about any pipe.)

The other two pipes pictured gurgle a bit if you're a slobber mouth like myself.
The cob churchwarden is the meerschaum "Wizard" pipe. Just got it, and its awesome. I can really taste the tobacco now with the cooldown a longer stem brings.

Deeply sorry about the way your Gov controls things, early America made a big fuss over taxes and we all know how that turned out.

>>985985
woops email was still on.

>>985885
Well the corn cob pipes are good smokers, they make a good beginner pipe and cost like $5. You should get a couple of them to test different tobaccos.
For a beginner briar, I'd recommend Lorenzo, they make fair entry level briars and you can get them for $20 when on sale.

We need a new thread!

New thread:
>>986215

New thread:
>>986215

New thread:
>>986215

>>965242
I have a bone pipe