What First Aid supplies should be brought on a camping trip?

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in case your heart stops you should bring a defibrillator

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hyperbaric-chamber if you have decompression sickness

Some hand sanitizer and bandaids of various sizes. Cravats or cravat like pieces of fabric for slings, swaths, splints, and possibly tourniquets (but that last use is a big stretch). A mylar emergency blanket. Just those few things should cover most of what you're likely to run into.

It's really a lot more important that you know what to do in an emergency than that you have a pile of high speed medical shit. It also depends on the trip and what kind of resources you have, of course.

>>954072
Benadryl and aspirin. Morons on here will say bandages but your weaeing a shirt. They will say tourniquitea but 2 cloth stips and a astick work.

I can save 75 percent of morons with sticks and shirts. Benadryl and aspirin cover 20% more.

>>954072
Benedryl, Anti-diuretic, Bandana, Ethanol. If you anything besides those four things, you should be headed to a hospital anyway.

>>954099
You're a gigantic dipshit if you think that your dirty clothes work as well as clean gauze and something containing ethanol.

>>954118
You raise a good point. Addendum to >>954117 : It's worth mentioning that the bandana in my med kit is separate from the ones that I have for daily use, and is clean and sealed. You never want to dress a wound with a dirty cloth.

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>>954072

Needle and thread
Alchohol, hydrogen peroxide, or other disinfectant

>>954223
>Anon thinks he's a surgeon.
Good luck with that.

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>>954072
Anyone carry one of these?

Buy some suture kits and learn to use them. I've never had to use them on people, but I did have to stitch my dogs belly up well enough to hold her guts in. Left my gun in the woods. Carried her 3 miles in 45 minutes to the car, then 30 minutes to vet. Figured she was a goner. She was 7 then, 13 now. Gun was easy to find since I had my GPS tracking.

how about a first aid kit

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>>954243
Yup, hope I never have to use it.
Mine's the ResQLink, not the + flavor. Don't really need it to float for what I do, rather have a smaller device.

My FAK is pretty basic - don't need a whole lot. Avoid taking a bunch of shit "just in case", especially if you don't know how to properly and safely use it. No first aid is better than bad first aid in a lot of cases.

Get the training. FA/CPR is cheap and easy, maybe $40 and half a day of your time.

Vetwrap, athletic tape, nitrile gloves, ibuprofen, alcohol pads, neosporin (rotate that out so it's fresh), CPR mask, dental wax, trauma shears, bandages, and gauze are about all I take for dedicated first aid stuff.
I've improvised for other stuff - motorcycle tube for a sling, for example.

>>954243
Only in the stan. It was the running joke thatbif u pushed the button a heliclopter would show up and take yiu home.

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Ask away

>>954365
What bag is that? I'm gonna build my own instead of buying a prebuilt kit.

>>954374
BDS Slim Medic Bag. What level of training are you working on?

>>954378
>What level of training are you working on?
Not dying 101. I'm doing solo travel.

It'll have drugs, gloves, tape, bandages, bandage/iris scissors, some hemostats and forceps, alcohol, and maybe a liter of fluid/electrolytes replacement.

If I could get some epipens, I'd carry them for other people but those are probably expensive and I don't have allergies that I know of. I only ever plan to be 10 miles max away from help and near enough to trails.

>>954385
I encourage you to think critically: what injuries are you expecting?

>>954388
abrasions, sprained joints, lacerations

worst case I break something

>>954389
H - hemorrhage
A - airway
B - breathing
C - circulation

Research "6 ways not to kill a patient"

>>954389
H - tourniquets, ETB, compressed gauze/sterilizing agents.
A - on you, you're fucked
B - diphenhydramine, solumedrol, epinepherine
C - oral rehydration salts/ cerosport or similar

I recommend packing a couple SAM splints of various sizes and ace wraps with 3" tape to secure.

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>>954397
I got nothing

>>954365
what meds do you carry?

>>954365
is there any real no no in carrying hockey tape instead of that tape they sell in drug stores? I use sterile gauze and disinfectants and then just tape over with hockey tape. I like it because it stays on and I can make custom sizes and obviously it's cheap and readily available and has so much more length

>>954072

Just bring a cat tourniquet. Wrap it around your neck and tighten down.

Medic here

>bring benadryl, motrin, imodium, aspirin, tetracycline,
>bring 4x4 guaze and tape
>1 guaze roll
>4 bandaids
>CAT
>antiseptic wipes
>sharpie
>shears

That will get you by and be lightweight if that's what you're after

>>954466
>>CAT
How likely is it that a hiker/bushcrafter is going to need a CAT while camping in the woods...unless haji is putting ieds underneath logs innawoods

>>sharpie
Why do you need a sharpie in you med bag?

>>954502
>Why do you need a sharpie in you med bag?
to write the time of application on the CAT

he is just being a fag, that's all

>>954466
I basically pack these, but also butterfly strips , PVP-I, activated carbon tablets, leukotape and a Victorinox SD.
PVP-I might double as a last resort water disinfectant. I also repackage meds to save space / weight.

I also pack a petrolatum + zinc oxide cream for rashes, should also work as a backup sunblock and firestarter.

Not first aid, but I also carry a spare phone and compass.

>>954099
>2 cloth stips and a astick work
yeah, no

Some of the things listed here make me cringe. Hey guys, he said he's going fucking camping, not to fight ISIS.

>>954365
Uh oh. I have few questions about blisters. How would you treat them. Should I poke them so liquid leeks out ?
What if it is already broken and I need to stay on my feet ?

>>954616
Besides the CAT what exactly makes you cringe?

>>954623
U.S. Army survival manual says the following

If you get a small blister, do not open it. An intact blister is safe from infection. Apply a
padding material around the blister to relieve pressure and reduce friction. If the blister
bursts, treat it as an open wound. Clean and dress it daily and pad around it. Leave large blisters intact. To avoid having the blister burst or tear under pressure and cause a painful
and open sore, do the following:

Obtain a sewing-type needle and a clean or sterilized thread.

Run the needle and thread through the blister after cleaning the blister.

Detach the needle and leave both ends of the thread hanging out of the blister. The
thread will absorb the liquid inside. This reduces the size of the hole and ensures that
the hole does not close up.

Pad around the blister.

>>954627
>Detach the needle and leave both ends of the thread hanging out of the blister. The thread will absorb the liquid inside. This reduces the size of the hole and ensures that the hole does not close up.

That is a really good tip.

>>954623
Also, carry moleskin just in case. And if you are breaking in new boots, or are just prone to blisters...put a pair of sock liners on your feet before regular socks. <<<Great trick that got me through basic training rucks.

>>954667
My question is, how the fuck do you thread a needle through a blister without puncturing it and having it drain?

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>>954685
>thread a needle through a blister without puncturing it

Of course you puncture and drain it.....that is the purpose of the needle

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>>954623
If you choose to open the blister, have something on hand to dry the area out and something to bandage and pad it with. I have used things as simple as hand sanitizer and moleskin.

>>954435
Athletic tape is good. I recommend the 3in climbing tape.

>>954420
pic related

>>954412
Then get you to an REI or whatever and take the first aid course or, better yet, get your EMT-B

>>954502
>why need a sharpie?

Simple, bites and stings. If the patient becomes allergic, the site starts swelling from a venomous contact, etc. the patient or medical personnel can draw a circle around the base of the bite. If the bite swells more, it will protrude past the circle and indicate that the condition is worsening.

CAT is just handy. No you're not stepping on a land mine, but it can be used if you need it, plus its light weight.

Super glue and duct tape

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>>954764
Thoughts on carrying airplane bottles of vodka for sterilization/wound cleaning purposes?

>>954783
Not him, but alcohol into wounds is not a good idea. Use PVP-I or Chlorhexidine imo.

>>954783
Unreasoningly stupid

>>954365
what's your certification level?

>>954466
NREMT-P Working on CCT

This is all you need, sc/out/s.

>>954764
This list is unnecessary for a normal outting. Lets keep the medic shit between medics and not confuse the fuck out of normies. The last thing I need to hear is how GREAT Solumedrol is while shopping at REI.

>>954783
Hydrogen Peroxide or rubbing alcohol - Anything else is beyond pants-on-head retarded

>>955023
Someone asked his meds not what meds should i carry

>>954783
Dilute your ethanol to 30% before using to wash wounds.
Do NOT dilute ethanol below 70% if using to sterilize tools.
>>955025
H2O2 damages tissue and increases healing time compared to ethanol
Isopropyl/isopropanol (rubbing alcohol) contains toxic compounds

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>>954992
guess

>>955023
see >>955043

>>955250
68W?
so NREMT-B plus the army training?

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>>955422
Bretty much how I started - gotta keep going. Clinicals almost done; Army schools come next.

>>955454
do you have ACLS/PALS or TCCC or PHTLS or any of those things?

>>955468
Not him but I've got ACLS + PALS + TECC If you have a question

>>955483
what do i need to know going into ACLS? I taught myself EKG rhythms and the ACLS drugs, which i was told I should know.

Also, does TECC teach crikes and needle decompression? I dont really need to take it but TECC sounds pretty interesting

>>955493
Where are you coming from? EMT-B? RN to Medic challenging the test?

ACLS is just following a megacode algorithm for 3 major codes - VFib/VTach, Asystole, and PEA, using your ACLS drugs, and understanding electrical therapy.
If you're solid on your EKG Rhythms, then you should be alright. ACS is another course that's basically a prereq for ACLS - same with ASLS. Not sure where you're coming from or your goals so it's difficult to speak on.
There are flow charts online that are the baseline for understanding ACLS. If you review those, an ACLS course should be absolute cake.

TECC does teach crics, and needle decomp, if theyre a true NAEMT course, but it's mainly focusing on an E before A primary assessment with a focus on stopping massive hemorrhage. It was pretty pointless to take, as I learned all what they taught in medic school, including crics and needle decomps, but 200 bucks is significantly cheaper than the 6 grand and a year of schooling.

>>955250
What is that in front of your eyes?

>>955468
What do you need to know that >>955497
didn't cover?

>>955618
PVS14's

>>955642
Neet, thanks for the info

>>955025
>iodone
>retarded
Ok anon

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>>954227
Doesn't need to be pretty, Just needs to keep the gash closed long enough to crawl back to your car and get to a hospital without the wound filling up with mud and centipedes.

Stitching is so simple a nigger can do it.

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Band aid large waterproof pads. Indestructable if you apply it to clean, dry skin. Will fall right off if you apply it to wet skin. $5.50 at the drug store, $2.50 at walmart. You could bring all six of them, and it would be very lightweight. Must be the ones pictured. Put your ointment on the cotton pad. Sticky part must be touching dry skin.


Walmart also has the best price on self adhering tapes. If you actually go to the store it's even less expensive than it is online


Lighter, single serve ointments can be found at minimus

Blue nitrile gloves

Ziploc freezer bag


Chinook medical is kind of neat. But I think they have a $25.00 minimum order. Best price on elastic bandages though

also lol at those zombie squad first aid kits

>>955497
I'm coming from EMT-B. I don't really need any of the alphabet soup classes, but they just seem badass. If nothing else they provide continuing education hours.

>>955642
Where did you get the drugs in your kit? I assume that is your personal kit? Would I be able to ask my doctor for them?

>>955885
NameFagging only to differentiate between myself and the other Medic

The other alphabet soup classes are the core of your EMT-P Program. If you're spending the time learning it, you might as well enroll in the closest medic program near you and be certified in it. ACLS, ACS, PALS, Etc. Is a good tool to understand patients, but it'll never be used in practice if you don't cert yourself.

>>955888
I, too, have this question. Also, how do you house them? Water proof plastic lock box? Rescue trucks have them all in a tackle box or something similar, or a jump bag - Neither of which is good for /out/ting.

>>956078
Right now I'm not sure medic is the way I wanna go, and if it was, I wouldn't be in the position to start classes for a few years. Im hoping all the cool classes will satisfy me until then.

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>>955888
Most of those listed are OTC but listed as generic (yay Uncle Sugar) or are just injectible versions of common drugs. Let me know what you're interested in and I'll help you get them.

>>956078
Little pelican case that lives in my aid bag

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>>956383
Just curious are you a deployed 68w, or a civvie paramedic?

>>956383
How would you get zofran for example

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>>956426
guess

>>956494
Ondansetron is an antiemetic that comes in tablet form as well as injectable. Do your homework and cure hangovers.

http://www.vetrxdirect.com/product/view/ondansetron-antiemetic-tablets-for-pets/variation-11717?utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_source=googlebase&cvsfa=4090&cvsfe=2&cvsfhu=353939333537/?network=g&matchtype=&keyword=&creative=165178594731&device=c&devicemodel=&placement=&position=1o7&campaignid=715176430&adgroupid=37688128059&loc_physical_ms=9025582&loc_interest_ms=&gclid=CjwKEAiArbrFBRDL4Oiz97GP2nISJAAmJMFatOVUzEwqceoT1xX-MeyVg2M6aa_gqYF2u-q-ZvAzaBoCzZLw_wcB

>>954072
Whatever you know how to use.
If you don't know how to use it, it's dead weight.

>>956584
I'll take a guess. Military definitely. And not because of the shitty ass notepad but because of all the bs generic meds lol the army is all about generic shit.

>>956584
I was wondering about it specifically in injectable form. I couldn't find the injectable form of any meds i'm looking for, even OTC.

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>>956629
Yeah, injectable isn't something that would be useful to a skill level where you don't have access to them in the first place. Consider good Samaritan laws aren't enough to explain why you're hiking with a pelican full of needles and syringes.

>>956603
I was kinda hoping the pictures would have given a clue.

>>955250
>mountain

you're at Drum?

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>>958369
HA! I wish. Polk.

>>954435
I work with double honed, double edged blades every day as do my co-workers and hockey tape is the goto for cuts. We just peel back to some clean tape, fold it onto itself and use that part to start wrapping.

Paramedic here,
I generally kayak when I camp and through experience I have found it good to have a SAM splint and ace wraps handy along with the basic trauma supplies. I generally keep my shit in a food saver vacuum seal bag. easy to tear open and keeps it dry.
A little on the over prepared side, but when your drunk friend breaks his ankle on a rock, you'll see the value.

Biofag here

Don't pack antibiotics. Go to a hospital so the labfags can figure out what you've got

Your tetracycline won't cure your Giardia infection and the chances that you'd have an antibiotic resistant infection are high enough that self-medicating is a very bad idea

Sometimes it's better to let your immune system do its job than to ruin your body's microbiota. Antibiotics should really be a last resort

>>954223
>This is Adolf. He likes animals.
>At the age of 56, Adolf committed suicide after systematic bullying

Tea tree oil.

Too many uses.

>>956383
who makes the best icepacks

i tried the qtddtot thread and no one answered. the ones i bought are shit and i want to replace them.

>>954072
Tampons
In case you get shot and need to plug up th wound

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>>954072

Have given lectures on this to residencies. my light/short-trip kit is attached.

>>959267
>Your tetracycline won't cure your Giardia infection

No, but Metronidazole (Flagyl) will.

and a full course weighs less than 1/4th an ounce.

taking along antibiotics and knowing when/how to use them is very worthwhile.

>>954466
not bad but missing p-iodine and i would pack more gauze rolls than fancy shit you can always substitute with gauze rolls. also anti-biotics are not exactly first aid stuff unless you are on an expedition god knows where.

>>954072
if you go by car and park near your vehicle first aid kit should suffice, if you go far from vehicle get a motorcycle first aid kit and put it in your bag.

don't overthink this shit! a first aid kit is there to give you tools to keep someone alive until the emts arrive. don't put sun screen and fuck knows what lotions for little boo boos in there! don't put drugs in there either, you can make the emts job a hell of a lot harder if you medicate a wounded.

>>962221
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oxford-Essential-Underseat-First-Aid/dp/B002SJUNPS
basically go with something like this. make sure it has p-iodine in it.

>>954099

RN fag here that also has 4 yrs as a corpsman. Your shirt is not gonna be able to get tight enough to stop any bleeding, its gonna strech and rip. You're clearly a dumb ass, I wouldn't even trust you with bandaids, you stupid nigger.

>>962520
This. Field tourniquets are cheap, fast, and effective. Cut the right artery and you'll bleed out before you can find a stick and take your shirt off.

>>962525
meh, i have a belt that shit will not rip i will only put the shirt under it as padding. tq is retarded most of the times tho. i wish people would stop memeing about them.

>>954764
How did you get the medications?
Working on my NREMT-P as we speak

>>962756
>being this retarded

TQs are memes now? Kys

>>963055
they are memes for hikers. very useful for combat medics. there is a difference between the two likely use on the order of magnitude between trumps tiny dick and trump tower.

>>962756

Belt doesn't work that well either. It still stretches and can't get tight enough. You're better using a triangle bandage and a pen over your belt.

>>964117
You're a dumbass too. EMTs use them every single day as well, multiple times a day. A combat medic can ended up using multiple ones on a single person.

You should do some googling.
Not rare for hikers to use them too because they're not paying attention to the trail, due to all the sights and sounds. They fall and break a bone, or accidently impale their leg on a some thing. You can easily use two cat tourniquets and some wood, fashion a much better splint for a broken bone like in the leg that a normal Sam splint can't cover, or a shitty couple sticks and rope like most ppl fashion. Even when you take wilderness first aid courses, a good instructor will even tell you to bring at least two of them.

All this is also first hand knowledge too, due to being a city EMT for the last nine yrs, also being on the S&R team as a EMT too.

What ever, this is 4chan. Like always, no knowledge faggots will still throw in their 2 cents, cause they took some 1 day course, or watched a few things on youtube.

>>964149
you have shit belts that's not my problem.
>Not rare for hikers to use them too
post a single instance

>>964149
you have a chance of injury during hiking of about 0.005%. compared to that walking on the street is fucking lethal. then most injuries are sprains and break and concussions and scrapes. only like 1 in 10 million involves the severe bleeding a tq would be useful for. and the chances of the person knowing how to use it and being able to is close to nothing.

so tq is a fucking meme in the /out/ context.

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I'll post what I normally bring.

This little guy is for when I'm out mapping with just my vest, gear, and water.

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>>965078

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>>965079
Notes on this kit.

Found the case in the desert with an old broken digital camera in it. I think it's perfect for a small kit.

I have been saving pill bottle and jerky dessicants for these packs. Don't know how well they work, but I just like them in there.

Also, Don't know if I should be using actual superglue on cuts, but I just keep it around.

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>>965083
This is my pack medkit. Just got it in the mail. Dumped out most of the useless junk and put some of my own stuff in.

I need to get another pair of tweezers and I want to put a sharpie in there, but I'm not sure of what else I need.

I count the jerky as a morale booster. Not for emergencies.

>>965086
>marihuana infused jerky in a fak
well that's it for me i'm out

>>954255
sounds like a good story behind that, what was it that messed her up so bad?

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>>965114
I'm trying to figure out where exactly to put it.
My toiletries kit makes everything smell like soap.

I forgot how /out/ is about that stuff. Here is a pic without it.

>>954442
Heartily KEK


seriously though, bring a CAT. And some CombatGauze, Israeli bandages, NPA tube, forceps, bandaids, gloves. /done.

Check out skinnymedics video's on his DIY kit

>>954227
i hang out with some medfags, so it would be useful for them, you stupid cunt.

>>965443
>a CAT. And some CombatGauze, Israeli bandages, NPA tube, forceps

Goddamn you medfags really need to be tested for autism. No one is shooting at you on a camping trip nor are there any ieds on the trails.

>>965086
>>965125

Nice start. I'd leave out the SAM splint though in a small kit. For something that bulky they are a pretty low probability, low advantage item compared to other things like superglue or a bottle of irrigation fluid.

>>966184

Are you always hanging out with them? No, so shut the fuck up. If they are true medical personal, they should already have a kit themselves. You stupid lil faggot.

One thing a lot of people forget and it's one of the most valuable things IMO is a portable charger. Medic here Ive responded to so many calls were people couldn't call 911 because their cell died. Throw one of those mini charger packs in there. You will have to maintain it drain and recharge every month but it's worth it.