Batonny Thread

hacking knife, ~12 dollars, designed to be hit with a hammer

>rigging knife

Why is this coming up in wood splitting threads frequently?

>Does wood come pre-cut

saw or axe it.

>>947650
>hacking knife

Interesting. Do those come in folding styles?

>>947650

You done took the bait anon.

>>947635
Get a chisel

>>947656

I'm not tuned into the latest out memeisms.

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>>947659
Like this. I guess safety goggles and work gloves are needed too.

>>947652

not really? You could probably do that if you think there's any point in doing so. Sounds like a bad idea.

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>>947670
Seems like this batonny knives may not have broken if they only folded instead.

>>947635
Karambit is best.

>>947673

I'm not a big advocate of batoning knives and I'm not going to support that conversation further. I'm just saying there are things like froes which are designed to function in that area.

>>947675
If someone can come up with a good reason to use a karambit, I'd love to hear it. Even as a weapon, a hooky blade seems like it would get caught up in things and be fucked.

>>947681
Karambits are for skinning/gutting when hunting. Only kids and tacticools think it is for a weapon.

>>947684

I'd rather a wide belly knife for skinning and hunting. Karambits are marketed largely as weapons with big thump loops, so I wouldn't imply that's not a common reason they're marketed.

>>947688
You think anyone wouldn't sell it to whatever demographic wants to buy it? I can't help that retards think they are rambo and pay more money than hunters for shitty tools.

>>947635
are you the faggot from the chisel thread?

Becker BKII, of course.

>>947691

I mostly get amused when the name calling starts.

There's clearly a market for karambits. I'm saying they are shitty for most tasks versus wide belly knives and if anyone disagrees, that's just fine. We can share our opinions and not be dicks about it.

I entered this thread for plants and am horribly disappointed.

Can you baton a dildo?

>>947697
An ulu is the best tool for skinning and butchering.

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>>947700
kek

You people are fucking garbage.

Buy an axe you fucking morons.

Jesus Christ what is it with you people?

>>947769
>why so hostile?

I want to have someone baton a dildo in my ass, what is your problem?

What aboit a kukhri ? Mine is at least a cm thick

>>947866
>at least a cm thick

Is it made from a lawn mower blade?

>>947866
>kukhri

For what purpose?

>>947769
Why Karrie around all that dead weight?

>>947681
>>947684
when I go out for my bushcrafting/hunting trips in the forest I often times use my karambit for both battonning and skinning/gutting. I find it does an excellent job of penetrating the animal so you can easily cut up the stomach. The curve does a great job of retaining the edge of the blade so you can really battonn the wood well. I think many people have trouble with battonning wood because they'd don't have a sharp enough knife.

>>947675
>>947681

Karambits are like the idiot savant of the knife world. They aren't really useful for much, but what they do they do very well.

I see them more as a general utility knife really. They're great for cutting rope, opening/slicing boxes, scribing lines on wood, and light pruning. I've had a couple cheapy chinesium jobbies that actually held up to the above quite well.

>>948018
>aren't USEful for much
>more a general UTILity knife
Admit it anon, you love your Karambit. And why wouldn't you? They are very practical and the only thing I can see wrong with them is that /out/ idiots don't like them. So what if you'll catch some heat if you post a picture on this board?

I see them as the chubby chicks of the knife world. Super easy going, fun, all around awesome- just for some reason no one wants other people to know they're into them.

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>>948031
>Karambit
>very practical

>>947709
>ulu

That's a woman's knife.

>>947675
no

>>948368
>i am not Smores wib you

>karambit
>for batonny

Aren't those double edged though?

>>948489
You are double edged faglord, stop lying.

Karambits are the best knife for batonning.

A bait so obvious indeed

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>>948489
Yes, but this is the one you use for batonny. Use a glove and hold the front blade. Batonny the handle with the hammer so the handle blade saws into the wood.

>>947673

I think this image triggered me hard enough to start carrying an axe, if I ever do that to my Ontario SP1 I will shit myself

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>>947635

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>>948495
The correct way to use that knife for batonny is to drive the point into the end of a branch and use it like a axe.

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>>948862

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>>948862

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>>948862
top kek, mate

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>>948862
Sir I do believe you have created a halbert, rather than an axe. Hald-berd comes from old german which means "pole" and "axe" respectively. Even without the linguistic cues, one could easily deduce that this IS in fact a haldbert due to the spike atop of the weapon, as well as the excessively long handle which is intended for battle rather than for woodworking, which would have been quite apparent to the average middle ages european.

Never baton or use a hatchet when it's cold.
warm it up under your sweater or hold it over the fire for a few seconds. You would be suprised how much of an impact the low temp takes on the steel.

>>947656
>>947666
tfw I posted the hacking knife meme

>>947635
Get him a splitting wedge instead, or even better, a 1 pound hatchet with short handle. He can also whittle his own wedge and not ruin his knife.

>>949127
Never baton a knife.

You have never split wood in -25F weather it seems.

>>947673

Cool, that one knife got a finger choil!

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>>947635
My go to extreme use knife is a Ontario SP-10 that I reground. Although typically I use a machete/ax for their intended uses. But I have done batoning before for the heck of it.

lol the only good pic I have off it includes a /k meme knife.

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>>947635
Oh I just realized one of those is a Ontario Blackbird... who would even try batonning with such a thin/small knife, especially on a log that big, unless the intent was to break it... Considering it's not that cheap of a knife, maybe they were just actually that dumb.

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>>950997
IT IS FOR A SURVIVAL SITUATION!!!!!!!!

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>>951037
Not sure if you are just doing a meme or not... but just in case you aren't:

Still pretty stupid... If you are out in the woods and plan to be there long enough to need a fire, you should have a ax or large enough knife for batoning.


If you happen to actually be in a "survival situation" and some how have a innawoods knife but not you normal stuff, you baton smaller things your knife can handle, not freaking logs.

>>951138
I drive a truck that hauls pre-cut rounds of camp fire logs, that need to be split at the destination, cross a barren desert. If I break down over night I'll need to start a fire. I can use my tire iron to baton some of the rounds into fuel sized pieces.

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>>947635
>>947673

Estwing E44A. Lansky puck.

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>>947635
Batonny!
Chop chop!
CHOP CHOP!
Smack my blade with a mallet because innernetz.
Chopchop.

>>951143
So put an axe on your truck you retard

>>953158
What would I need an axe for in my truck? I have a pocket knife.

>>947635
i've noticed most of these baton-gore pics show snow on the ground (cold makes steel brittle) and/or knives going right into knots. seems like poor planning/awareness

not a fan of batoning, just an observation

>>947673
i donno why but the bottom middle of this pic makes me kek

>>953249
>i've noticed most of these baton-gore pics show snow on the ground

By "most" you mean "2 out of 10" I assume. Only extreme cold does that to steel. Outdoor temps in winter above -50F do not affect steel all that much.

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>>953163
Superb bantz, mate!
TopKEK!
Have a pepe in the true spirit of the chinz

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>>953163

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Silky ONO

OR anything from silky

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>>953485
>$145
bro literally just get a oghlans pack axe

>>953485
Yeah I love their saws, but gosh that looks like a piece of crap ax. What is even the use of that crap?

>>953399
>>953249
came here to say just the same thing. Little faggot isn't making "just an observation". Even if there is snow on the ground, it shouldn't constitute your fucking knife breaking, or a dire need for a fire. It's this shit that makes people baton in the first place, breaks knives and creates these treads. FUCK BATONNING

>>947635
Glock 78

>>953594

It's actually pretty nice. Not the guy u are replying to. They make a billhook and machete type thing as well. All well made.

>>953592
>coghlans pack axe
Not an axe, not even technically a hatchet, since it doesn't have a wedge; still better than batonny.

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How about the Buck froe? Seems like it could serve as camp axe, machete, froe, draw knife, etc all in one package. Specifically lists batoning as one of the uses in the manufacturers literature and it still carries the Buck Forever warranty.

>>955692
I have no experience with it, but I've seen mixed reviews, and it seems for the money you can do better. I really like the look and materials, but I question parts of the design, like how they went with a hollow grind, have no back lanyard hole, and the handle looks slippery.

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>>955828
Yeah the only negatives I have seen on the set are from gideons tactical...he also said the froe has a hollow grind.

this thread has gone far enough. What the hell is Batonny

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>>956017

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>>956019
I think you meant

>>956017
it's faggot speak for batoning.

some people get suuuuuuuuuuuuuper mad when they hear about other people batoning wood with their knives

>>947701
Sure. You use it to hit the knife. Works really well for batonny.

>>947635
>What knife is best to buy for a bushkeker who does hardcore batonny?

many bushkeks

>>947684
except a simple drop point knife is a million times better and more ergonomical for field dressing

>>948862
>>949092


lost

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/out/ noob here. I dont understand the controversy here. Is there any benefit to battoning wood? Is it to save space by not having to pack an axe/hatched or is it just a personal prefferance.

>>947635
Oh look, even with batonning these morons used the knife wrong. Logs are too thick, for the full tang knifes and the rat tails broke at the handle which typically happens because that's what happens with those kinds of knives in that situation. Whoever did that obviously had no clue what they were doing. And OP is a pompous ass for being a moron because he doesn't like things.

>>956341
Typically it's just preference. I alternate between my camp axe and my bk7. Just really for what I feel like doing that day. Hell, I may take my camp axe, my folding saw, my BK7 and my mora for the overkill and the lack of needing any tools at all. That can be a bit heavy so I don't do it often. But it's kind of fun once I hunker down at the camp site.

>>956352
Oh and I also bring a folding shovel. Because I like it and it makes dumping sand on the fire easier.

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>>956341
The main debate is between those who enjoy the outdoors, practical activities and have a pragmatic approach to the challenges they may face, and the bush-cucks and BATONNY CHOPPY CHOPPY. Pick up dry wood off the ground and make a simple camp fire? NOPE Bush-cucks like their wood nice n' green. That way the fire is even harder to start. But that wood ain't small enough for me to practice feather sticks an' my sparkly stick so it's time to BATONNY CHOPPY CHOPPY. I LOVE BAATONNYYY AND KNIFE DESTRUCTION.

>>956353
does the folding shovel work well for batonning?

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>>956341
dont listen to this guy
>>956377
he may be asspie and goes /out/ forever alone, then gets legitimately mad when he hears that people don't camp his way. This guy is actually MAD about consequence that don't pertain to him at all and he goes on multiple threads trolling people about batoning. This asshole would get made if you didn't start a fire with gasoline and a road flare cause it's efficient.

Batoning doesn't have to kill your knife, just don't baton thick ass wood logs or knots, and don't beat on it like a gorilla or hit the knife on an angle. sometimes dead fall is too wet to burn so you need to open it up to get the dry wood inside. you don't need to baton all your wood, but getting some dry kindling helps though.

>this pic triggers the asspie chippy chop faggot

>>956377
Why take anything, nature will provide everything that is needed while /out/. Who needs a hatchet, or a knife, or a saw...just forage long enough and you'll find what you are looking for.

I want to let you know that I start every fire I make whether it be in the backyard, the fireplace, or out camping with a sparkly stick...just remember that and let it eat away at you.

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>>956432
Hey a SP-10, I have one of those.

>>956378
I wouldn't know, I use it to dig and shovel. Dumbass.

>>956377
I argued with your dumbass on the wedge thread about this. That's not always how it works and you're still an idiot.

>>947635
An Old Hickory butcher knife. Full tang, high carbon steel, and if you break it, it was only $11.

>>956432
This is the guy not to listen to.

>>957494
But he sounds like he really knows how to batonny tho. IF I WANNA BREAK MY KNIFE DOING SOMETHING DUMB WHAT DOES IT MATTER TO YOO?? JEEZ.

>>956812
I use a shovel to batonny all the time. It's my back up for batonny when my knife breaks.

>>947635
A sharp hatchet is the best knife for batonning.
/thread/

>>957786
Find an off switch.

>>947669
>that giant red pussyshield
Jesus

>>947684
So much wrong in one post

>>957791
Using a hatchet to baton is not as fun.

>>947669
why would you even use this if your brick already came pre-split?

>>947673
that bottom middle one is just a little bit of grinding and polishing away from having a real nice choil

the top left one can have a really weird choil with blade behind it.

I have thought that the batoning hate is just a meme, but holy shit after watching few youtube videos, the stupidity is real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnO1lJ_7MKQ

>>958844
AAAAHAHAHA hahaha AHAHA AHAHAHA
>the batonny fags will defend this vid
LAWL SO HARD

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>>958844
What a fucking retard.

>>958902
CHOPPY CHOPPY! BATONNY IS FUN!!!

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Terävä Skrama

https://youtu.be/MxbNupxUygM

>>958844
>>958902
That guy is a fucking moron for batoning something that large...but that notch out of the spine of the hoodlum for lifting kettles off the fire is also terrible design flaw.

I thought batoning was a meme. Why not just use hatchet to do the same job hundred times better?

>>947673
>RAT
Should've got the ESEE.

>>958844
lol he's as doughy and inarticulate as I always picture batonny faggots.

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Stoppy stoppy the choppy choppy

>>947695
I haven't broken mine yet and I baton shit all the time

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>>958980
Making the saw looked like a pretty cool challenge, or just fun thing to try... But it's kind of silly considering Silky exists.

>>959048
I hate hatchets, I don't knwo how people actually use them. It's all about the Forester/Hudson Bay axes. They are actually useful and not much heavier.

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>>947695
>>959261

>>959284
Leo you could buff that right out.

>>959171
Anyone have pics of broken ESEEs?

>>959318
I know there are plenty out there... It's almost like you can break just about anything if you grossly abuse it...

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Master batonny owner here.

>>959367
Oh Man! That knife looks awesome! It looks super tough! Like you can just SEE how awesomely tough that knife is because you must baton wood all the time and you can't even see the slightest bit of wear! Like not even a scratch! It totally looks like it has NEVER BEEN USED!!! : D That's awesome.

>>959671
It hasn't been used ;) just arrived from Amazon.

>>959671
Fuck off fag lord

>>958902
you can see when it breaks when he hit it three times at an angle

>>959012
the notch is less of a problem than the fact they take it out before heat treat and that gives a lot of surface to the quenching. basically the steel is extra brittle around that notch.

>>960003
>you can see it breaks when he hits it
fixed that for ya

>>959367
>see thumbnail
>dat ultra muscular forearm

Holy Shi-!!!

Oh...

>>960294
at an angle. stop being obtuse, it's unbecoming

>>947635
>batoning
Carry a fucking axe, they're not that heavy.

>>960335
What's more plausible anon?
A: The angle at which he hits his knife with a log to split a bigger log is off by a little. This slight angle at which he is 'incorrectly' hitting it is the reason why the knife failed. All would have been FINE if he had maintained exactly perpendicular blows. Never mind the fact that the knife was lodged in the log and he was applying force to a part of the knife sticking out, applying greater torque. Never mind that there wasn't much angle to hit the knife except for this "angle". Bear in mind that an axe or maul could have done split this in a single swing.

B: He's fucking hitting a knife into a log with another log.

How about batonny chop chop is stupid bullshit? How about, despite numerous pictures and videos posted in this thread alone showing broken knives because of this bullshit, you batonny bush-cuck faggots insist on memeing this shit.

>>960749
I really don't understand why personal preference makes you so angry.

>>958902
That's an incredibly thick log and its length is also really short.

>>960781
No. It's not a personal preference, it's fucking logic. You look at this fuckwit banging on his knife and breaking it in half and you say
>"Oh man, he musta been hitting it the wrong way"
When I say the knife broke because he's banging on it, you try to correct me.

It's like the guy took poison and died. You look at it and say "he took the poison wrong, you can see it's in the way he swallows too fast there". I say, no the idiot took poison, that's why he died. And then you get all defensive and full of shit.

>>960781
Besides, bang on knives all you want. IDGAF. Just don't come on this board and try to defend it. There's just too many pictures of broken knives, videos of idiots destroying their own shit to reasonably say that batonny has any real fucking relevance to outdoorsmanship. If I want to make fun of you idiots for doing stupid shit, don't get bent out of shape about it, just accept that what you wanna do is fucking autistic and either stop or roll with it.

>>947635
>hatchet
>wedge and sledge
I don't like killing knives.

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>>960827
>doesn't like killing knives
This post.
Right here.
/thread/
A knife is a tool. Many critics of battony have been taught that carrying a knife is a privilege. We were taught proper handling, knife etiquette, and held to safety standards.
We were told that willful neglect of the rules could result in breakage, injury to self, and loss of blade privileges. The worst failure was injury to another caused by throwing or projectiles from broken equipment or other objects. At each infraction we'd lose a corner of our card. At the fourth infraction, we'd be bladeless little pansy pants who have been found irresponsible.

Seeing all the defense of this choppy choppy is painful on multiple levels.
1. Injuries from poor safety habits will result in nanny state regulations that will fuck me and my ability to carry a blade.
2. The blade is a sacred tool, and seeing the pleeb level autism choppy choppy knife abuse turns the stomach.
3. This is a telling symptom of a generation of fatherless males looking for a way to be something they never had a chance at. That is just plain sad.

If you faggots are looking for a role model, join the Marine Corps or the French Foreign Legion. Or just look to me, do what I say, and stop fucking up 3200 years of tradition.

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>>960850
O•U•T•S•T•A•N•D•I•N•G

Knives made with modern steel and a proper heat treat should have no problem batonning in my opinion. That being said I think you are stupid if you baton something that is 90% as wide as the blade of the knife you are using. I would personally never baton anything over 3 inches in diameter. I feel like batonning is a much safer method of making kindling than using an axe, especially if you are tired and in low light. Do you ever wonder if some of these pictures of broken knives could just be from the fact that they were defective in someway? Maybe a bad heat treat or some defect in the grain of the steel? I have seen a solid steel hammer break in half right at the neck after a couple years on the job, while other hammers have have been on the job for 10+ years and have endured 10x the abuse without ever failing. Even if you have a 99% success rate, when you are making hundreds of thousands or millions of an item, you will come across one that is defective.

>>960806
>>960809
I'm not the same person you've been mouth breathing at you over anxious retarded bitch. Calm the fuck down.

>>960809
>>960806
You've also kept this thread alive for a long time. I'm going to assume you have no life and severe anger issues. Find a hobby of some sort because being /out/ apparently isn't it.

>>960870
Don't use logic to defend batonning. You'll only set OP off more. When he has to think critically about his stances he'll lash out. He reminds me of that kid who gets in a fight because he runs his mouth and then when he loses he gets upset and cries to his parents. Only now he's a grown man and just gets upset because he can't call his mom. Move along.

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>>960870
What you're arguing is CAN you batonny chopp choppy chop, and I say yes. With a high quality knife, and a little thought put into it, you can split some bits of wood with a knife and shouldn't expect it to break.

What we're arguing is SHOULD you batonnie chippy choppy. Making kindling is pretty fucking lame as a reason. I find an axe of a manageable weight or a hatchet is way better because of the wedge shape, for any reasonable need to cut wood. I never make kindling because if I'm in the forest, I'm surrounded by bits of wood of all different sizes and I can just find shit that works. Blah blah it's raining, whatever, learn to build a better fire. Learn to find better wood.

Bippy chippy a dying meme. Batonnia chuppy cuppy is a drunk survivalist idea that was put into a TV show or some lame book to fill space. It got picked up on by fatherless bush-cucks with yootoob channels and perpetuated to memeic status. Does it work some of the time? Yes. Does that mean you should do it? No.These idiots put their knives under undue stress, and eventually will fatigue the metal. I don't fucking care if you guys do. By all means, masturbation is another pointless and self gratifying activity. Just don't come onto this board and try to convince people that it's a legitimate woodsman activity.

>>960896
totally samefagging you are. There are too many people on this thread telling you to fuck off with your batonny

>>960898
tell me what's wrong with what I've been saying. I've been arguing legitimate points and all you can come up with is lame generic 4chan insults. All you bush-cucks do is get saucy when I fucking trounce you with logic.

>>960870
>excuses for tool abuse: example post

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>>947635

>>960931
Nothing like sitting around a tin can stove enjoying the outdoors. Sometimes I lose myself staring into the shinyness of the tin, it almost has a meditative quality.

>>960952
LNT

>>960903
Logic? You've been blathering on with immature battle yaups. If you had this conversation with people in public you'd be shouting over them and flipping tables. Don't act like you're sensible because you don't even know what it means.

>>960902
Actually, no. I hadn't replied until that one post. All things considered you're an idiot either way.

>>956432
wtf are you idiots even trying to make in these pics
just use an axe

>>961350
They are on step 4 of >>960931

>>960850
>knife etiquette
>loss of blade privileges
gimme a fucking break man. I don't have to worry about this shit because i'm over the age of 12 years old.

Jesus H Christ, i read a lot of dumb shit on /out/ but this takes the cake. Bravo Sir

>>961374
He's talking about being taught this stuff by your father when you are a child. Same thing for those who were in boyscouts. At least in the 1980s.

>>947675
I really want to see someone batonning with a karambit now.

>>961297
So every fucking time, it's a new faggot coming in here ardently standing up for batonny give me a fucking break. Am I really to believe that you'd read through all the posts just to make an informed comment? No. Fuck you. You are the only faggot on this board who's sticking up for this bullshit practice. Every point made FOR battonny has been debunked and argued here. Every point AGAINST batonny is weakly argued against at best or we just get stupid ad hominem attacks.

How about this anon. Tell us why you batonny wood. Just lay that shit out point by point, why you do it

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>>961403
Notice the (You)

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>>961406
Notice how that IS NOT here. Not a newfag btw. Not by a long shot.

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>>961408
Or here

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>>961411
Or here. So no. I'm NOT the same person. 159 replies and 63 posters. There you go dumbass.

>>961412
you never told us why you battonny wood faggot. stop arguing about arguing and tell me why the fuck you would ever do it.

>>961412
p.s. congrats on using a different device. I don't give a fuck.

>>961413
Why does batoning make people so mad? Chill out before you get a heart attack, dude.

>>947635
If bait, sigh.

If not, that's a loaded question. I used to be huge into camp knives, choppers, big knives, etc. Then I took my Boker Vox Rold, Becker BK9, and Fiskars X7 hatchet /out/. The Boker and Becker have stayed in my closet ever since. The thing about batoning is that for a knife to be really effective at it, you often have to sacrifice performance in other tasks or go way up in price. A froe is purpose built for batoning, so is a skrama. Here is the best answer I can give you from my experience.

A good 4-6" blade can handle simple batoning chores and still function as a general purpose knife. You want a scandi or full flat grind. Try to baton knot-free wood that is at least an inch less in diameter than the length of your knife. If you're trying to split anything bigger than 3-4", just use a hatchet or axe. The Vox Rold (D2), BK series (1095) and Bark River knives (A2, S3V, etc) will perform well.

Take a look at some of the Dutch Bushcraft Knives videos for more ideas. Personally, I carry a folding saw, hatchet, and a Mora and don't try to baton with a knife anymore.

>>961416
Holy fuck are you serious? Do you really think I would go through THAT much trouble for an anon I don't know? Wow you're a fucking moron. You're a troll.

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>>961413
>Not me either
That's a loaded question though, isn't it? You see, I know that in your head there is NO justification for batonning. And even if I did come up with some superbly sound logic on it you wouldn't see it as a good enough reason. There is no point in any argument. It's just preference. It's something you don't like and you feel superior because you don't do it. That doesn't make you right and it doesn't make you wrong. So therefore I won't answer your question. Not because I don't have one, but because it wouldn't matter anyway and you'll hit me with another insult just because you can. There's no point.

>>956377
This. Used to be in the CHOPPY CHOPPY camp. Too much pointless extra work. Main reasons to split wood for a campfire are
1. Burns better. This applies to pieces of dry wood that an axe or hatchet would split quicker and better. Even after a good rain, you can have dry wood by splitting a few pieces.
2. Easier to place. You can stack split pieces easier and safer than round ones, but this is a pretty minor concern if you know what you're doing.

>>961374
He's got a point shithead.
If the batton brigade knew how to use a knife and hatchet, I don't have to worry about the idiots swinging and bashing and choppy choppy and generally being a hazard to anyone within 10 meters.

>>960850
Well said

I have an esee junglas. If you fuck up that knife somehow then you are a gradeA moron.

And even if you do find out you need waterwings for soup and do break it, ESEE warranty will give you free knife.

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Oh!!! Is this the Batonny Babby Chop Chop thread for R•E•A•L S•U•R•V•I•V•A•L•I•S•T•S!?

I don't really baton...especially with my nice knives...but if I have one of my schrades or a machete on me I'll sometimes further process some of the smaller pieces I have cut up with my saw. I think it is pretty comically how much people care about what others are doing with their equipment. I see people doing stupid shit all the time, I just chuckle to myself and move on.

>>961480
>>947635
Aren't these more an argument against cheap chink steel than batonny in general

>>961480
the Opinel is still fine.

>>961436
You've got nothing bush-cuck. You're all out of shit reasons and you know it. Too many images of broken knives. Too many innocent anons coming on this thread wondering "why not use an axe instead?" I don't care what you do. I don't care how many knives you break. Just don't come on this board and tell me it's a legitimate outdoors technique.

>>961551
See what I mean? You've made up your mind already and you hit me with an insult because of something you don't like. You prove my point.

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>>961551
>15 images of broken knives
>out of hundreds of millions of knives
>overwhelming evidence
Top kek m8

>>961551

Be me, be armyfag. It's winter, 3 AM, quite dark but snow adds a bit of light. No extra light allowed, and now it's after your guard duty, you've frozen your balls off lurking in the bush next to a road in the darkness, watching observantly for imaginary Russians to materialize and meet death from your assault rifle.

You want to get to sleep but next up is your fire watch, your holy mission is to keep the fire stove puffing. You can't sleep yet but being cold you want extra much to make the tent stay warm and livable for everyone in it. But guess what, the fire is about to die out and all the logs inside the pile in the tent are too big to fit the fire stove hole. What do you do? Do you rummage through the tent, spend time looking for an axe, hoping the fire won't die, then hack yourself in the ankle in the darkness, then scream medic? Or do you just go a bit further away from the tent and baton a few logs to smaller pieces with the knife you always have with you?

Of course you baton! Get it over with.

There are knives and there are knives. Shit tier knives likely break from this treatment. Others will prevail. Your knife is not shit tier. It's not expensive but it's hardened quality steel. So you baton it, get smaller logs, feed the stove and keep the fire going and at 4 AM the nextfag takes the turn and you can sleep for a few hours.

So, mfw almost 20 years later someone in an internet forum is fanatically and categorically denying the existence of batoning as a viable technique anywhere at all times, from now to eternity and all times past, just because people with shit tier knives and wrong technique manage to break their tools? That's just fucking rich.

End rant. Go /out now and if your axe breaks or you lose it, do not under ANY circumstances baton, since it is a mortal sin.

>>961582
Every last little detail taken into account to make the perfect reason to batoony. Congratulations, you found a quasi plausible scenario in which it would make sense. Because we all need to feed small stoves in the middle of the night with no light, and the axe is nowhere to be found and good riddance it's dangerous to use one.

Seriously reaching for a legitimate reason here anon.

>>961576
Play stupid games win stupid prizes. You've got NOTHING bush-cuck.

>>961573
You refuse to make any legitimate points. You just whine. Stop whining.

>>961596
Oh my, did an anon give you a reason that you found slightly acceptable but STILL shot down because you're an asshole? I believe it did. And you solidify my point again. Even if it's good enough it's still not. Congratulations

>>961600
There are none to you why would I struggle to prove a point you find moot anyway? There's no reason.

>>961518
There's some high end stuff in there too.

>>961539
The hinge mechanism is broken in that one and it won't stay locked.

>>961576
Looks like 25 images to me, bushkekker.

>pretending there's "hundreds of millions of knives" being used for batonny chop chop

>>961614
>>961600
I gotta point.

Batonny chop chop breaks knives because it is tool abuse by people who were not taught to properly use tools.

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>>961480

>>961628
If you want to tell yourself that, go ahead. It doesn't make you right.

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>>961642
>tool abuse isn't a thing

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>grow up in the 1970s and 1980s: learn to use an axe for breaking down wood
>grow up in the 1990s and 2000s: learn to use a knife to batonny

>>961645
anon I wanna hi five you. Fuck the bush cuckery and batonny choppy choppy

I would get a nata hatchet, they're a nice general purpose tool. I use mine for small branch trimming and herbaceous clump dividing when I'm gardening but could easily be used for batonny as well.

>>961614
>struggle
See? You can't come up with legit reasons to buhtonny.

If there was any legitimacy to it, you'd be able to easily point it out to me.

This guy posted a lengthy story >>961582 with a ton of constraints for this one time that batonning just SORT of made sense.

Even then I'd argue the axe should've been readily available, and that using the proper tool for the job is safer than batonny fuckery. But kudos to him for actually trying to legitimize this meme.

The point is you get so butthurt. If you make a point, it's not my job to just accept it. I'm gonna argue with you on shit that doesn't make sense.

>>961652
>Even then I'd argue
My point exactly. Nothing is justifiable to you even if it is. So why attempt to prove it to you? You're so locked in to how right you are you won't even see what I'm trying to tell you. You see no justification because you don't like it yet you demand a justification for something you don't like because you don't like it and when it's presented you completely lose your mind and shoot it down. Why? Because you don't like it. You don't want a justification. You want an argument. and you want an argument that you're immersed in you would never say that it's a valid reason. You'd go "Maybe so, buuuuuut". Which you've already done. So again. There is no reason to justify it to you because you've convinced yourself that it's unjustified. It's circular logic and pointless.

>>961652
And to add:
I'm not butt hurt, I'm confused. You went through a lot of trouble and argued with a lot of people to keep this thread going on a personal choice. And when people tell you it is you immediately attack their character. Batonning wood doesn't make me an autist, it means I made a choice on what to do with my tools that I paid for. This has no bearing on what you do or your time out. I haven't even asked you what you use while out. Why? Because I don't care. You do what you do and I'll do me. It's choices and preferences. It doesn't devalue me as a person for that. The only people who don't seem to like that are people like you. And just because people agree with you, doesn't make you right.

>>961687
bu buuu buutttt bushkek batonny chop choppy faggot

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>>959263
I'd prefer a saw with interchangeable blades.
There were some folding saws with aluminium handles which were able to fit normal saw blades from the hardware store, but they quickly disappeard because they were a one time seller.
Too practical for an industry which depends on marketing the same stuff in a different package for more money.

Having the ability to choose between all available saw blade types, from wood to metal and that at a hilariously low price is awesome.
30 bucks for a new blade you can't even resharpen? come on.

Pic is German dude who made these saws by himself for 25€, doesn't respond to orders anymore though.

>>961718
There is an old guys Stateside that makes a similar saw...they are a bit more expensive and the guy is really old, so who knows how much longer he will be making them. If I remember the name I'll post it later.

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>>961718
http://fourdog.com/bobs-quick-buck-saw-21/

64$

>>961718
Shit, I bought a folding saw from Tractor Supply for $5. Cheap Chinese thing but it cuts stuff.

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>batonny chop chop

God damn it, this pisses me off so fucking much.

>>961387
>who were in boyscouts

lol, I never made it past weblo (also sad I was too young at the time to laugh at the name)

I suffered through like 2 or 3 years of arts and crafts before I stopped doing that shit

never did any /out/ stuff or anything fun

>>961480
>baton with opinel

why

>>961853
Indeed. Batoning with a folding knife is the worst thing you can do with regard to the foolish act of batoning in the first place. The locking mechanism can fail or be broken very easily. When and if it fails the person using it can be greatly injured.

>>961852
Cub, Boy, Webelos, Eagle master race.

>too young at the time to laugh at the name

kek it is pronounced, "WEE-buh-los" and spelled, "Webelos." Your local dialect was dropping a syllable.

We had all sorts of outings were we learned a shit ton of skills (1980s.) The only times we were inside was when meetings were held during bad weather or at night in the winter. It wasn't a babysitter's club like it is in most places today. I've forgotten most of the knots because I never use those, but the proper tool usage is well ingrained.

You could get a kukri, I think thats hipster enough.

>>961480
What's wrong with the Junglas?

>>962347
Everything in that image was broken via batonny babby chippity chop.

>>947635
It's literally copy pasta. ;_; I mean come on the first sentence! Plus "buy for bf" just to get the angsty single /in lads extra patronizing.

Can someone explain this knife thing to me? If you're planning on going camping and you're certain you'll need to make firewood instead of just picking up whatever you can find around you, would an axe really be so much of a burden? OP's pic seems telling enough.

>>961684
>>961687
you got NUTHIN'

We win.

>>962464
It was from the previous batonny chippity choppity hoppitty thread, but it wasn't copy pasta.

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>>947635
Oh I do say, I'm in the right thread! ^_^

>>962538
There's nothing to win, anon. At all. But if you want to shout victory you can feel free. But that doesn't make you right,

>>962538
You're more like new age feminist. You think what you're doing is a service to the world but really it's just a push for attention because no one takes you seriously and you feel intimidated. Then you demand to be told you're wrong and there's nothing to prove wrong because your stance isn't really a stance. It's just you acting like a bunch of jackasses because you want attention.

>>947635
HOT NEW TRICK

FRESH OFF THE PRESS

DO YOU WANT TO BATON?

ARE YOU *NOT* RETARDED?

HERES HOW YA DO IT!

GET A WEDGE SHAPED ROCK

AND HAMMER IT THROUGH YOUR WOOD

OPTIONAL: SHARPEN THE EDGE OF YOUR NEW WEDGE ON ANOTHER ROCK TO MAKE SPLITING EASIER!

>>962660
NOTHIN'

>>962578
Welcome dear friend!

>>947945
For winning Alone season 1 and a million buckeroos.