Budget is 150$ or less any one have good recommendations for

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>>920260
Not you asked for but it will serve you much better.

>>920262
thanks

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I bought one of these just for the hell of it. Now it's the only one I carry.

>>920262
Sadly this is true. I bought a Skeletool specifically for fishin but 95% of the time I just keep a little fixed blade on me and a smaller pair of needlenose pliers.

>>920262
/thread

>>920260
do you regularly use c4? if not, you probably don't need the c4 punch and another model would suit you better.

>>920353
> Tfw I do

I bought one of those cheap Leatherman Revs for $25. Has everything I need really, I see no reason to get a nicer one. I'd be happy with just a sturdy knife, pliers and bottle opener. What else do you really need?

I got a free Gerber from the army, gets used lightly. Really just the screwdriver, and saw. 99% of the time, a cheap folder will suffice.

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>>920262
Worthless post. You could have posted pic related and it wouldn't have made it any less retarded.

A Leatherman will serve you just fine for the 99% of times you are on the go and you need a knife or a pair of pliers. The fact that a Leatherman has a bit driver and file built into it makes it more useful than carrying separate pliers and a knife alone unless you knew the job at hand would only require pliers and a knife..

I like the Charge TTI. It's kind of pricy and it's basically a gauche version of the Wave but it is nice to use.

>>920408
Bit driver is a plus. I bought the Skeletool just because I didn't need all the extra shit for fishing but if I need to change the batteries on my remote and the Leatherman is close, it does come in handy. Otherwise I have to walk like 20ft to the garage and get a real screwdriver.

>>920408
>paying $150 for a subpar tool because muh titanium
Well it's your money, you're to throw it into the can trash if you want because for the shit you're implying then even a filthy chink $10 multitool is enough.

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>>920418
$150 is a lot, but you can't compare it to a $10 Chink tool. You can find some folders and fixed blades for cheap that will get the job done, but cheap multitools are always trash. The knives are worthless and the pliers will flex and break before you can grip anything important. Just spend $40-$50 on whatever the cheaper full size Leatherman is and you won't regret it.

>>920418
Subpar compared to what? A bag filled with $150 worth of tools from Harbor Freight? One really nice Benchmade knife?

A multitool is what it is. It can't be as good at driving screws as a screwdriver, it can't saw wood as well as a skilsaw, it can't turn a bolt as well as a set of sockets and a ratchet, it can't cut as nicely as a boutique folding knife (though it comes close) but that's not the point.

>>920424
>and the pliers will flex and break before you can grip anything important
>flex
I bought a Leatherman ST300 and sent it back because it flex like a mother fucker and its quality control was piss poor (the bottom of the handles and the pliers did not aligned properly).

Some people swear by them, others are shills and others just happen to have bad experiences with it, maybe it was a faulty one that happens 1 in 10000 but since it happened I never went back to multitools and I would ratter have the proper tool for the job. Other may have other opinion I don't care, whatever suits each other is good for me.

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>>920454
Of course the regular tool will work better, but a good multitool like a Leatherman will come pretty damn close in lots of situations compared to those cheap ass Walmart multitools.

>>920435
Idk, the screwdriver and pliers on a Leatherman are probably better than any actual tools you could buy from Harbor Freight.

>>920260
I got a Leatherman Wave as a gift several years ago, and it's come in handy more times than I can count.

>>920464
fag

Don't bother with the mut or the eod mut. Unless youre mil, a wave or st300 will serve you much better

What's a good Leatherman for a mountain climber? A guy who's done blanc and is going to the matterhorn next year. Need a nice gift for him.

>>920412
>walk like 20 feet

Confirmed does not /out/, else would need tools to go.

>>920800
Bump

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>>920814
I go fishin but I can normally see my car from wherever I am. So while you are technically wrong, you are right at the same time.

>>921083
So you are saying nothing, while being as verbose as possible?

How typical.

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>>920260

If you've got that budget I'd step it up from leatherman and get a Victorinox. I've loved mine and put it through some heavy abuse over the years - everything from sawing through not-so-dead maple & oak to cutting wires / barbed wire.

I used to have a leatherman, forgot which model but it was likely the "entry level" one - early 2000's. It was pretty good but the razors / saws were not nearly as sharp as the SwissTool's, and they've stayed sharp for a year or two at a time through use.

10/10, would recommend, SwissTool is boss as fuck.

>>921173
you must have gotten a shiity leatherman. my first leatherman was issued to me from work in 2001 and the blade was razor sharp.

you can hate on leatherman if you want, but they come from the factory with razor sharp blades.

>>920524
Leatherman Wave is great, I have one as well.

>scissors
>blunt tip blade

literally has all the specialty you would ever need

>>920524
Can vouch for the Wave too.

Got it during my compulsory military service nearly 10 years ago and it still hasn't let me down.

Altho I tend to generally just use a knife or an axe when I'm hanging around between the trees. The Leatherman has been more of an universal tool for mainly out of woods stuff.

>>920260
Gerber center drive.

I used to be a big fag for Leatherman Wave but I bought one of these it kicks ass.

I have over a dozen. My fav for value and size is the rebar. If I could only have one, it would be the Sog powerlock. The best quality? Swisstool(spirit, cause it looks sexier and weighs a bit less) the most useful to compliment other tools? Supertool 300(cheap, all the tools are big and beefy)

Best /out/ tool? None. Multitools are for working with mechanical shit. There arnt bolts or screws in nature. Invest that money in a good fixed blade our hatchet. Those'll both be 1000x more useful.

>>921256
except thay almost all /out/ gear does have screws and nuts.

I carry a leatherman and a sewing kit. Not because I want to sew leaves or screw trees, but because my man made gear might need repair.

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>>920262
A better example would be pliers + this.

I'm surprised I see SAKs suggested so rarely. I own a dozen or more MTs and yet my SAKs get the most carry of anything. My favorite is the Explorer.

If you DO want a pliers-based tool, though, I also really like Victorinox. I loved my Swisstool Spirit until I lost it and keep meaning to replace it. I think it's the best EDC tool on the market unless you regularly need to use it with gloves on.

Wranglerstar said Gerber was the best. Is he wrong?

Just get a Wave and put the extra money into dragon dildoes.

>>921751
>still watching this clickbait faggot

I got a MUT but replaced the c4 punch and saw for the scissors and jigsaw bit holder from a surge (fit is not perfect but works).

Its heavy but I use it all the time, would recommend (though not the Eod version like OP has pictured)

>>921236
>>921235

Wave user here as well. I had one from 2004-2008 until I lost it. Immediately bought another, and have carried it every day at work since then. Comes in handy.

Actually used it to break into a house this week. Not for illegal activities or anything, actually for work.

>>920524
>>921235
>>921868
Sidekick user here, had it for a few years and has come in handy at work, in the woods, and around the house. It's a jack-of-all, master-of-none but when you're away from your proper tools it certainly gets the job done.

Most used bits for me are the screwdrivers, pliers, straight-blade, and can/bottle opener.

What really sets Leatherman apart from the others is the 25-year warranty. I lent my Sidekick to my sister and she snapped the pliers trying to manipulate a thick steel wire. I sent it back to Leatherman and after about a week I received a refurbished Sidekick in the mail. I expected the refurb to have scratches and it's folding bits to be stiff but it was as shiney and smooth as a new one.

>>921309

SAKs are great but they're mostly made in China now. That might not matter to some but when I have a choice I try to buy American or at least not Chinese.

>>921751
I really like my Gerber Dime but I haven't abused it enough. I would be down to use a larger Gerber but idk if I would pay Leatherman money for it unless they really used good quality stuff.

>>920262
Couldn't agree more. I work maintenance at a big hospital. Over the years I've tried multitool made by Leatherman, SOG, Gerber and others and at the best of times they are vastly inferior to a dedicated screwdriver, pliers or whatever.

A multitool is certainly better than nothing but I think people really overstate their actual utility. If I thought there was any need for a real hand tool I'd just bring the tool with me rather than struggle with the inferior multitool tools.

Got a ST300, was good for 4 years of medium to heavy use (outing, homesteading, military serving), though the two smaller screwdrivers did snap.

Finally sent it in for repairs after the tip of the pliers chipped. If I get it back fixed - I'll say it was 100% worth it.

Ordered a MUT, should come in soon. Plan to designate that as my service multitool, as it really does seem nifty for rifle maintenance (even if mine isn't an AR15 system).

Overall - I got one in the first place when I got a homestead - and got tired of realizing I need a tool that is half a mile away in another building.

>>920260
whatever you pick, it is imperative it has a file. leatherman files are the most unappreciated item on it, and will cut through harder steels

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>>920260
buy a gun

>>920262

Presumably because the OP is posting on /out/ rather than /k/ he's looking for an MT he can take innawoods rather than EDC around the office, in which case weight is absolutely critical. The pliers you posted probably weigh 2 or 3 times as much as a Leatherman and onlyh have a fraction of the functionality.

>>922034

Wait, Victorinox doesn't make the knives in their Swiss plant any more?

>>920262
Fuck no. I mean if your job requires a set of pliers, sure, but for outdoors multitools are key ( at least for me)

I keep my surge on my person pretty much all the time. I rarely need it through the week since i work on an office but at nights or on weekends i use it all the time, and it does a stellar job.
The pliers on a leatherman wave, charge or surge are perfect for small to meduim sized fish. The knife is easily accessable to cut line, the scissors are great for trimming up flies or roe bags.

Ill admit i dont use half the tools on my surge but the ones i do use i use alot. The 2 knives, scissors, can opener and screwdrivers all see regular use

All comes down to preference though. Some people prefer to have a pair of massive pliers incase they catch a 50" pike even when theyre fishing a pond with only bass in it

Leatherman Wave is pretty damn good. I carried mine every single day no matter what I was doing til I broke it.

Used it to make quick car fixes, take care of small jobs I didnt want to get actual tools for at work and home, used it when /out/ constantly. I made my wife a nice walking stick with it once while hikimg during a break, and she used it once to saw down some small deadfall for a fire.

You know how I broke it? My friend was helping me with a bathroom remodel. We were pulling out old nails. I was using our only prybar so I handed him my leatherman to use the pliers.

Three nails in one of the jaws snapped right off. Apparently not made for leverage on that axis.

Still need to send it in for repairs.

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>>920260

>>924112
>Robust Deer
>Pop Rivets
>Multitools
I'm confused.

>>924063
>Still need to send it in for repairs.
Do it! You'll get it back (or a refurb) in a week and a half - just print the return form from their site and send it via USPS with tracking. You can't beat Leatherman's 25-year guarantee and it's better to get it taken care of before you need it again.

>>920454
I bought a wave and quality was also poor, a lot of sharp edges, pliers were assembled too tight and it wasnt comfortable to use them, it was heavy. I have old cheap multitool which costed maybe 3$ and use it for about 10 years now, tools are shitty but its a great pair of folding pliers. In my opinion 90$ for wave is not worth it, since the quality isnt so good at all... I sent wave back to the shop and instead i bought victorinox huntsman, it's much better quality and 1/3 of the price of wave, and i still have my folding 3$ pliers.

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>>924276
My Skeletool pliers are still tight but I think they do that for a reason. The tools are meant to be used for years and years and I'm guessing they build them tight so they loosen up to the perfect amount after some good use without having too much play.

>>922245
Channel locks aren't actual pliers, anon just threw that together. I'm a big fan of this small pair of needle nose pliers for fishin. They slide right in my back pocket and even with the Skeletool being light for a multitool, the pliers and knife probably weigh less.

>>924276
Has Leatherman allowed their quality to drop recently?

I bought my Wave 10 years ago and haven't had any complaints about it.

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>>924284
>>922245
...but on the other hand pic related def weighs more than the Leatherman.

>>920464
Funny, I actually have a gay little key blade on my key chain and use it fairly often. Flown with it a few times and TSA hasn't caught it yet.

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>>924320
>being this petty

>>924320
the fuck's wrong with Klein? what are you some kinda german chinaman?

>>924340
Why are you butthurt?

>>924342
Nothing, that's why I was complementing him.

>>924343
his dad probably bought him a cheap klein set for christmas.

hey bro, any tools are better than no tools. as you get older you will aaccumulate a garage full of tools you never use. you want to buy a tablesaw?

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>>924344
Oh it looked like sarcasm to me. My bad mang.

>>924347
No problemo, amigo.

>>924352
>>924347
I wish Klein made more tools besides lots of electrician stuff. They make nice stuff in the US and it doesn't cost stupid Snap-On money.

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>>924356
That's true. Still...

>>924369
a coughlans is acceptable, but leathermans are made far better.

I have what op posted. I was a sapper. I haven't used it in many years.

the blade is still sharp. leathermans re great tools. but you average camper will never use a mut, never the less an eod mut, past the main blade and screwdriver. I bet most eouldnt even figure out the carabineer is a bottle opener, much less know what to do with the cordage slicer. and of course the one the op posted has the brass blade for m4 cleaning and a c4 punch.

I don't care at this point. I hope you all order 5k worth of filson gear and die car camping.

Just get wave.

>>922034
>>922246
It's BS, Vic SAKs and MTs are still Swiss. The only things made in China are knockoffs and maybe the packaging for real ones. (I know Spyderco and other companies that produce their actual products in "better" countries still have their boxes made in China, so it wouldn't surprise me if Vic did the same.)

>>924590
Every victorinox blade has engraving "victorinox swiss made stainless" and its the proof that a SAK is a original victorinox product. Every SAK without this engraving is a knockoff.

>>924637
>Swiss made stainless
So the steel was made in Switzerland and then sent to China to be cut, stamped, sharpened, assembled, polished, etc?

>>924640
No, whole SAK is made in switzerland, the engraving is just a proof that its original. On every victorinox packaging you can see "swiss made". Every person which says that SAK's are made in china are just haters, or maybe they got a knockoff and believe it's original.

>>924640
https://www.cnet.com/news/where-the-swiss-army-knife-gets-made/

Fuck off Pepsi

>>921173
Leatherman's are great
>best availability of other tools on models with interchangeable driver bits

Swiss tools are also great
>best serrated knife I've ever used

I like the leatherman Surge's locking mechanism a little better because it's easier to manipulate with one hand but that's me nitpicking. Either one is a buy it for life purchase.

I have a swisstool a surge and a few smaller cheap pawn shop adopted leathermans for reference, the swisstool is comparable to the surge imo.

>>924667
as much as I hate pepsi for being a half illiterate dink bass specialist, you have no fucking right to tell him to shut up for that,,

>>921236
>compulsory military service

Damn bro, what kind Fascist country do you live in.

>>924379
>I hope you all order 5k worth of filson gear and die car camping.

This made me chuckle.

>>921238
How does it feel to work with it? Is the screw driver just marketing or is it actually somewhat comfortable to use?

>>920260
10 saks.

>>920260
>pic related
it isn't though. unless you're keeping it in your range bag, getting a firearm specific multitool is dumb. this is about equivalent to people who buy that EOD specific multitool because "muh hurt locker"
get the leatherman wave
ig you have larger pockets/use the wire cutters a lot get the surge or charge

>>920379
looks bretty gud. i do get a fair amount of use out of the saw on my charge. depends on what you're using it for

>>920800
wave

>>921111
hey
shut up

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>>921265
>he doesn't screw trees

>>922041
>stating the obvious
a dedicated screwdriver will always be better than a multitool screwdriver. a dedicated saw will always be better than a multitool saw. you carry a multitool because you can use like 15 tools but only have to carry one. my leatherman takes up the space of 1 regular screwdriver and does WAY more

>>924292
swisstool utilikey? i have that too and tsa doesn't care/notice
>alabama snackbar

>>924346
you don't use your tablesaw? how do you make straight cuts?

>>921111
Why so salty? He said that the other guy was partially wrong and partially right, and he also defended his status as somebody who goes outside. By the way, it's really fucking weird that everyone cares so much about who the "real" outdoorsmen are on here. Is this board a bunch of teenagers who need /out/ to be just their thing, and nobody else's?

Anyway, to get back on topic, I've tried EDCing a Leatherman Wave and a Wingman, as well as a Gerber Mini Suspension, Suspension, and Dime. I've used them all innawoods. What I discovered is that basically, unless I'm fishing or playing a guitar, I absolutely don't need to be carrying pliers. I'm somewhat confused, in fact, about what you are all doing with pliers in the woods.

>>921230
>Must have gotten a shitty Leatherman

That's literally the first thing he said.

>>921751
I've found Gerber to be a slightly lower quality in general.

>>928531
>pliers use innawoods
picking up hot cooking stuff, taking out splinters, gear repair, and cinching down knots off the top of my head. I've found the wire cutters are faster for cutting small twigs than the knife/saw. What do you use it for on your guitar?

leatherman sidekick has always served me well for /diy/ shit

>>928645
Pulling bridge pins, cutting extra wire left on the tuning pegs after changing the strings, getting the strings started when winding them around the pegs, getting old strings off, mostly.

Im going to be traveling in EU soon and im used to murican laws. Will I be okay if I buy a leatherman juice S2 to take with me? It doesnt have any locking blades and the blades are under 2.4 inches. Its fairly expensive so I dont want to take it if its just going to get confiscated.

>>929909
From the data that I have gathered over the years on /k/ and /out/.

>Poland ok
>Czech republic ok
>Italy ok
>Germany ok
>Spain ok
>Portugal ok
>Britain ok
>France not ok
>Nederlands not ok
>France not ok
>Denmark can't remember.

>>929920
*Finland not ok

Maybe some are wrong but this were told by people from each country

>>929920

Thanks, looks like ill be okay with the countries I want to go to.

Im surprised about france though, I always hear french people telling me how they carry those folding Opinel knives around and they have larger blades than the juice.

>>929928
Yeah people still do it but cops can fuck you up.

>In France, the carrying of any Category 6 weapon (Armes de la 6e catégorie), defined as including any knife of any blade length with a fixed blade, or a folding blade with a locking system, is illegal, unless carried "for good reason", for example, as part of the tools of one's profession.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_legislation

>>929920
In France its up to the police discretion. So it depends who you are and who the police is.
If its an expensive multi tool and you're a tourist, a police might want to take it for himself even though you were not causing trouble.

Also, best innawoods multitool is the surge. Because the file is removable and can be used to sharpen the blade, and the saw blade is interchangeable with common jig saw types.

>>929930
>with a fixed blade, or a folding blade with a locking system

Actually I think I would be okay even in france, the Juice S2 is a folding blade but it has NO locking system.

>>929935
Yeah seems to be the case, also the same for Nederlands. In Spain it actually can cause troubles.

Looking at the list Norway and Sweden are a no no. Austria and Lithuania are ok.

It rages me off that the state has a saying in what you can or not buy. Fuck some things it's not about carrying but even ownership in private property. Stupid fuck legislators and bureaucrats that never set foot out of their ivory towers think that a fucking knife is ok but the other one is not.

Based czechia.

>>922034
Made in America means nothing for quality. I have a case stockman and the blades rub when opening/closing. Only 3 blades on it, tons of extra room. My saks never had that problem and they're built to much close tolerances. The factory edges were crap, too. Weren't even ground evenly. Saks always come sharp.

>>922234
I agree. Also, nice catto it looks amused.