/ulg/ Ultralight General

Lightweight here, base @ 20.

Get fucked.

>overnighters in fine weather with no hot meals general
Kys

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>>886411
Hey guise.

My tackle bag is way over 13lb though.

>12 pounds reporting in

>feelslightman.jpg

>>886411
My pack weighs nine pounds empty. Git gud, faget. DYEL?

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>>886411
>ultralight
wew

>>886411
Do not wish for a lighter weight but a stronger back.

>>886545
all those years of loading 140# of plates into a backpack and hiking a few miles through the hills...dem 40lb packs are weightless
>be chillin
>carrying 40lb pack
>some pleb appears
>give pleb water
>go die somewhere else pleb

>>886411
Let's see your 12lb setup for 15F and below, faggot.

>>886565

Thought I'd like you know last night I had a dream that some backpacker was carrying around literally 140 lbs of cookware plates.

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> carbon fiber scales
> ceramic blade
SUL EDC 4ME.

>>886418
/thread

>>886418
>>887088
Fuck off both of you. Planning a 3night/4day, fine weather with cold and rain right now.

Pics to follow.

>>886565
>all those years of loading 140# of plates into a backpack and hiking a few miles through the hills

RIP your knees

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>>886418

Kek

What the fuck do you do for water?

I'm from florida and a days worth of water is like 8 pounds.

my base weight for my 6 month thru hike next year is 13.5, yes that includes my winter gear.

>making sacrifices to please a bunch of libbie millennials on Reddit
>cancer has spread to /out/

Oh boy

>>887276
Here's my pack. Don't have all my gear yet but I know what I'm getting and what it weighs. The pack is a windrider, cost my 360 bucks

>>887262
Guzzle at water sources, bring a liter to sip when in between sources.

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>>887280
Opps

>>886844
the cast iron lifestyle is real

>>886844
funny.

also while Im here: how much weight is bad for your knees? my knees are pretty bad and I dont need them to get any worse.
I mean, cant you work your way up weight-wise?
If I weighed 20 kilos more, would that mean that I couldnt even hike naked without getting knee problems??

>>887294
Glucosamine/chondroitin for joint health. Every morning, one cup warm water plus juice of one lemon plus one teaspoon Himalayan salt, mix together and drink --this helps with inflammation.

Hope that helps, sorry I can't answer your question properly.

>>887294
when i was in the army reserve, we were told never to train with more than 20% of your body weight. despite the fact that as soon as we went out field we packed 30KG+ in our packs, plus ~7kg webbing and a weapon.

But it certainly is about how you protect yourself, its the steep declines with a heavy pack that are going to tear up your knees, punch up hills but zigzag down if practical.

The unfortunate truth is though that we were never meant to be pack mules and rucking heavy shit aint good for ya.

Do your training though with that 20% number and on the rare occasion you have to carry more at least your joints will be more prepared.

>Disclaimer: This is all broscience

>>887262
This is base weight mate. Water/food is extra.

>>887278
>spending $500 on gear now to save my back & knees in 20 years

Oh boy

>>887294
If you want to carry 30 pounds but that seems too heavy for the condition of your rickety body, the easiest solution is to lose 10 to 15pounds of flab off your granny arms and mangina

>>887294
assuming a muscular or skinny body type, you should avoid carrying more than 30% of your body weight for more than 3 days.

less weight means covering more ground in the same time and shorter recovery times

>>887536
And some people wonder why pretentious, condecending SUL fags are dispised and denigrated?

>>886418
Lmao

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>>887282
My nigga

>>887282
>>887655

Those bags look like flimsy overpriced millennial garbage.

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>>887683
Dyneema fibers are literally stronger than steel, faggot. Hmg packs have survived 3 or more thru hikes. Go back to hacking vegetation with a mora in your local state Park.

>>887312

I'm not sure about the total bodyweight % rule. For instance; I was 186lbs, I'm losing weight down to 165lbs, but that loss is not muscle but fat. I should be able to carry more in pack, not less.

It should be a % of your muscle weight rule tbqhwym8.

On a side, and general, note - I understand ultralight desires, but god damn you are a bunch of boring bastards. Fucking Americans who think going for a walk is complete activity.

My pack is 40lbs loaded for winter, 50lbs including food and water, because I want to have fun when I'm out. Not just walk, sleep, repeat.

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>>887280
>cost my 360 bucks
Ahahaha another ultralight dipshit purchase. You cucks make for good entertainment.

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>>887762
Stay mad poorfag

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I'm all for ultralighting and ultralighters but frankly some of us have priorities other than prancing whimsically up the mountain in our underwear with our 3oz of tent and a change of sock in a fanny pack.

>>887695
>Dyneema fibers are literally stronger than steel
I don't see skyscrapers being built with dyneema fabric

>>887753
What do you carry that gives you more fun?

>>887831
what is it like to be this obtuse.

>>886411
Have fun carrying no back up gear and relying on someone else having something when you need it because all you can carry is 4 bags of oatmeal

>>887683
>millennial garbage
WTF does that even mean? Is millennial becoming the latest 4chan buzzword like autism and cuck that just end up as generalized insults that lose all meaning and context? It definitely seems to be on the rise.

Most people on this site are Millennials, those born in the 80's and 90's.

>>887862
>Most people on this site are Millennials...
That's just proving their point
Back in the day, people toughed it out, heavy shit, uncomfortable packs, new age can't deal with over 20 pounds because they are pussies

>>887868
I go to the nature for fun not to tough it out you faggot

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>>887868
Back in the day you had inferior gear. Have fun being in pain on purpose, I'll be actually covering some ground and seeing things.

>>887831
bulletproof vests are made of dyneema

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>>886411
nice. what shelter are you using?

I'm at 9.5 lbs for 3 seasons.

>>887945
How much does your camera gear weight? I've been looking into getting something with more capabilities than my point and shoot but I'm pretty torn between a tiny mirrorless or just biting the weight bullet on a dslr.

>>887753
yeah well it was aimed at soldiers who were all already athletically built

>>887833
>What do you carry that gives you more fun?
18 lbs of MDMA

>>887945
How vain do you have to be to include your DSLR in this photo shoot... Oh look, now everyone can assume you are a for-reals photography enthusiast, despite the irony of this shot being taken on a camera phone.

Either that or you are double autistic for carrying a second dslr around just so you can take photos of the first one.

>>886411
link to the pack if anyone is interested. I ordered one myself

http://www.palantepacks.com/store/p4/simplepack

>>887868
back in the day we rode horses, didn't have electricity, and so on. We find shit that works better, and adopt it as the new standard. Ultralight backpacking is one of those things.

>>887971
>im jelly
The post.

>>887971
>>Being that jelly of a $100 lens.

I carry 2 cameras, each with a different lens.

>>887946
The camera gear is fairly heavy, just about 2 lbs. To be honest, i suggest a high end compact camera for hiking.

I bring my DSLR since i own it anyways, can be at the ready in standby mode for days, focuses well dim light, and is weather sealed.

>>887946
Mirrorless user here.

Switched from Nikon dslr to fuji system. Honestly tiring lugging around a 2kg camera plus gear.

I use a set of primes and pick and choose as necessary. 12/23/56mm, the 12 is godly for starscapes.

Lighter camera means lighter tripod too.

Base weight is about 10kg plus 2kg of camera gear.

>>886411
Is there a ultracompact version of ultralight?

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>>888178

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>>888178
This one is meme as fuck

>>888182
How can you fit even a shelter and sleeping bag in that

>>887895
I do too, but I don't need to have 13 pounds or less to be able to enjoy myself.

>>887905
I can cover ground with more than 13 pounds just as well bub

>>887940
The high level ones are made of steel, then ceramic. You want a ceramic backpack?

>>888082
>First car 1885
>Electricity 1789
hit me with some good logic boo

>>888408
No, I want a backpack made from a fiber stronger than steel and light enough to float

>>887766
I did a 700ft climb 5.10+ with 3 gallons of water, a change of winter clothing, a jar of peanut butter and some other junk. Turns out I didn't need 3 gallons of water...but I sure did get strong climbing every pitch twice because I was solo

>>888434
How's it stronger? Tinsel strength? Why float? 13 lbs in it will make it sink anyways

>>886411
My edc messenger bag is over 13 lbs, I can carry that around most of the day. Why is 'ultralight' a big deal?

>>888182
You fkn pleb, enjoy destroying your hips and knees carrying around all that weight. You call yourself an ultralight hiker? I'm doing a 14 day through hike with nothing more than the clothes on my back, a waterskin, my wooden walking staff, and an all seasons wool cloak for protection and bedding.
Get on my level.

>>888439
>700ft climb
>700ft
>climb
thats just over 200 meters. Do you americans use retard units so it sounds like you accomplished more? 200 meters is literally nothing

>DUDE I LIFTED SO MANY POUNDS IN THE GYM
>MATE I CLIMBED MANY FEETS

>>888646

Can't talk shit about our units of measurement until you become the worlds #1 nation.

Who is it currently?

OH THATS RIGHT. GOOD OLD RED, WHITE AND BLUE FREEDOM LAND US OF FUCKING A.

>>887683
flimsy? K. Watch this then, something interesting happens at 7:25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi7gfHcLcRw

My pack is the black one, it's even stronger than the white dyneema

>>888669

>take dull ice shoes to it
>thinking that proves something

Take a knife to it and come back. Lot of rocks out there with a surgical edge on them.

>>888677
take a knife to your throat you fucking faggot. Lets see your pack. Bet it's from walmart huh?

>>888646
Depending on the face that can be an eternity. Plus he was weighted and probably hadn't done it before.
The fact that you're so quick to dismiss it tells me you haven't been there.

>>888569
edc messenger bag is not the same as a hiking pack. Your edc messenger bag probably doesn't have shelter, cooking equipment, wilderness tools, first aid, etc.

>>888713
That guy suggested testing a backpacks strength to see if it survives sharp edges, so you suggest he kills himself and you call him a faggot.

Edgy as fuck.

>>888755
This board is hands down the most autistic kek. Find me a pack that will survive purposefully taking a knife to it. Sharp blade=/=realistic durability test

>>888661
Actually, as much as I hate to say it, USA are bitch bois to China. Everyone with any real power in th US is shitting themselves and scheming like crazy with the rise of china. You have lost, you just know it yet.

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>>888645
>he needs a walking staff

>50lbs bag
>Average 40km a day
>not even tired and get to enjoy some gourmet grub with some bourbon and cigars
>Curl into my extra comfy sleeping bag and mattres with a pillow

Perks of being fit

>>889008
Good luck with that weight on a thru hike or long trail

>>889300
How can you stand that through hike bullshit? Walking along in the footsteps of thousands of other hikers along mostly groomed trails to see the same beautiful shit as everyone else. People seem to think it's the height of outdoorsmanship when it's just the gym for fags who are too skelly to feel superior in an actual gym.

Remember, without all the resupply points your tiny pack would get you killed.

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>>889008
I just have my pack dog carry muh knoife collection and it cuts down on lots of weight.

>>889314
Kek, do you consider something like the Pacific Northwest trail a thru hike? Tons of navigation, resupplies every week or so, how is that different from any other trip? I don't think 99% of out carries food for more than a week anyway. The continental divide trail is similar with map and compass navigation and long stretches without towns, I don't think that qualifies as easy.

>>889008
>40km
>40
>km
Do you non-americans use retard units so it sounds like you accomplished more? 40 kilometers is literally nothing

>>888755
No, he arbitrarily dismissed evidence that Cuben fiber/dyneema is strong after having made retarded arguments
>why don't they build skyscrapers out of fabric, mommy!
>they look like flimsy millennial shit
(Implying they're garbage on that basis)

But this is 4chan, so who's surprised there's a bunch of spergs who think
>I was totally born in the wrong century! I would be a ninja/knight/pirate/Viking/samurai/loved by my parents

>inb4 I'm mad
Alright

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>>889734
>inb4 I'm mad
You spent $500 on some shitty meme pack that will tear itself apart on a protruding branch.

>>889750
from their website

"Technically classified as ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene (UHMWPE), Dyneema® fibers are a lightweight high-strength oriented-strand gel spun through a spinneret. Considered the strongest fibers in the world, these extremely burly, low-density fibers are up to 15 times stronger than high-quality steel on a weight for weight basis, yet still float on water. They are also extremely durable and resistant to moisture, UV light and chemicals. Often used in the rope industry, among others, due to the ability to produce stronger and lighter ropes, Dyneema® fibers are also used by the military and law enforcement (personal and vehicle armor), the maritime industry (mooring ropes), and commercial fishing (ropes and nets)."

>>889008
>40km a day
aww how cute, us ultralight hiking beasts easily push out 60-75km every day no problems.

Perks of having a 10 pound pack

>>888661
#1 of what? Fatassness?

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>>889765
>Badassness
ftfy

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>>889765
>>889768
I think we won a couple more since this one too.

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What does /ulg/ think about SAKs?

>>889770
for me they are too heavy and have too many tools I would never use. So I don't use one. I just bring small scissors to open food and boxes, I found that's all I was using my knife for

>>889810
Pic related is 59 grams, or roughly 2 oz
>>889770
I'm asking about SAKs like the Spartan, not multitools like the SwissChamp or Skeletool

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>>889818
Whay do those run, like $25? Just get it if you need the corkscrew and can opener. They are fine for what they are, especially just to carry around on the daily. Millions of people have been using them for years. It's not speshul snowflake super steel but not total garbage.

But if you are doing some real /out/ type shit, you may want to bring along a larger fixed blade or folder.

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>>889831
>But if you are doing some real /out/ type shit, you may want to bring along a larger fixed blade or folder.
For campsite work I have a Helle Lappland I got as a gift from my dear mother, famalam, but it's usually carried in the bottom of my rucksack
You've already replied to me in /ulg/ so you already know the tools I like on my SAKs

>>889837
Either way you won't be disappointed by it, especially for $25.

If you find yourself wanting pliers and wire cutters after some use, just shelve the $25 SAK and look into other multitooks.

>>889837
>/ulg/
I meant the knoife general

>>889008
Food & booze have nothing to do with a light baseweight.

Cigars are a small and light luxury item, they're perfect for ultralight hiking.

Down quilts are light, warm and the comfiest things you can possibly sleep in /out/doors. Only downside is that they're pricy.

You can easily find an UL mattres and a pillow. Thermarest Neoair Xlite + Exped Air Pillow UL.

Stop clinging to 'muh old ways' and get with the time gramps.

Literally just fill your bag with drinking water, everything else is for first world pussies.

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>>887963
B-but sempai, I-I am a soldier!

>>889750
I don't have one as I can't justify buying a new pack for a few ounces difference at this time. Not even going to mention how BTFO you were in>>889760

>inb4 poorfag
Yeah you were the one complaining about money, 280 bucks for an MLD Cuben bag won't break my bank.

Where will you move the goalpost to next I wonder?

What counts as not ultra-light but just lightweight?

>>887971
t. I get angry at people over the internet for liking different things than me

>>886411
>muh ultralight
I try to decrease the weight of my pack every time I go hiking but there's no point in being all autistic about it. Managed ~12kg (excluding food and water) for 10 days out in northern Sweden this summer. Since then I've bought a lighter tent (my old one was broken, used a friends 15$ festival tent lol), next is getting a lighter shell jacket and a new sleeping pad.

>>889006
Good luck safely crossing rapids without a staff.

>>887945
>Camera priced at 1500
>Lens priced at 100

>>889762
>ITS TOTALLY A RACE GUISE! NO TIME TO ENJOY THE JOURNEY.

How to miss the point of hiking.

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>>890377
I will just use one of my dozen Moras to whittle one

>>890411
Anyone have any experience with making their own handles for Morakniv? I bought a laminate steel one at a second hand store for cheap and currently cleaning up the blade. It'd be neat to make a nice wooden handle instead of the plastic one.

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>>890412
It doesn't look that difficult. It would be easier if they were full tang and you could just make the scales and bolt them on. But with this, I would probably take two pieces of wood and use a router or just carefully carve the groove for the tang in the two pieces of wood, drill a couple small holes in the tang and handle parts for rivets or whatever hardware you use, then shape the handles and finish them, and bolt them all back together.

Maybe you could also just take one piece of wood and drill out the middle for the tang and epoxy the fuck out of it before you press it in.

I have no clue what I'm talking about.

Oh, and the stacked leather handled are dope too. Google those.

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>>890412
>>890427
Pic related shows what you use for the leather handles. Just stack them the whole length of the handle and then use a sander to shape them but you will need some sort of end cap.

>>886525
loose some weight , fatty
quit car
bee free and a man

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>>887766
listen caveguy..


today our gear fits into a flight suit

everything top notch high tech.
titanium, carbon

ultra high nutritious food pressed and pulverised
smart selfie drones
ultra brigth longlife cob led lamps
gps optimizied campfires
nano cutted eversharp blades and tools
micro bio med packs
super smart nano solar panels
ultra durbale nano light tarps who fit into your trouser pocket (you could sleep in your flight suit but tarps are cool)
24/7 planetary access to homebase via geostationary watsapp

>>886796
yet to get a response OF COURSE

>>889760
I have a golite bag that uses dyneema ripstop, it's about 8 years old and still going strong. I use it every season, and I'm not babying it - wild camping with 10-16kg loads.

I also use dyneema cordage for my whoopie slings, adjustable ridgeline on the hammock, and tie outs. It doesn't take a knot for shit so I use traditional cord for my tarp ridgeline but when I switched out from memecord (paracord) the reduction in bulk (more than weight) was very noticeable.

>>890499
they're cut for the tang already so anon is gonna have to use an epoxy if his rat tail tang tapers like the image. It's also going to be a good idea to clamp it as he progresses.

>>890607
You can literally go google for lightweight/UL forums and find UL 4th season kits..

>>886796
Underrated post

>>890825
Except it's retarded, you just add a higher R value pad and wear a puffy and some pants inside your 20 degree quilt. Wow so hard, there totally aren't numerous forums with UL backpackers sharing trip/pics of winter camping.

>>890388
>>890388
And at f4 or above, it's just as sharp as any other 50 in the canon lineup, while being the lightest. Got to choose the right tool for the job, not just the most expensive.

>>886796
lol. Instagram kids. Go "survival camping" on a beach in socal, So dangerous dude. Some bum got murdered not far from here one time. got my ceramic knife for safety. 3 oz brah. hike some tourist trail for a mile, take some pictures standing on a log then fuck off outta the woods back down to the beach and buy a hotdog at the stand. Base 15 brah! Base 15!

>>890825
>>890831
>>886796
Lmao I just googled it and here's your answer you fucking mong--https://backpackinglight.com/00277-2/

Wow that was hard.
>inb4 hurr his total weight not 12lb
No shit, you clearly don't understand the terms used
>inb4 hurr snow cave
Alright, so proper UL means not relying on items where technique can work, skill doesn't weighs on your back
>inb4 other moved goalpost
Sure

>>890834
Lmfao BTFO
>>890835
Doesn't look much like a CA beach

>>890836
HAHAHAH
Another first page Google http://woodtrekker.blogspot.com/2014/04/low-cost-ultralight-winter-backpacking.html
And his big 3 aren't even that light

Holy shit I am laughing at you faggots so hard right now, go rely on your pop-up tents and 8lb backpacks while hiking 6miles a day.

I don't even understand how you can try to argue that hauling MORE luxury items out into the woods is manlier or something. I'm assuming you came here with prissy expectations and unloaded your own misconceptions. Go read a book and go outside instead of finding extra gizmos for your not-quite-full pocket

>>890838
And another, although the web design is trash, also on my first page of results

http://hikinghq.net/winter-ultra-light.html

Total minus food and water : 10.05lb

Thanks for giving me reason to look at some of these setups, maybe you won't be too rustled and can see some improvements for yourself.

>>889760
>Tensile strength is everything
Considering cuben fiber isn't 100% dyneema, but two plastic sheets laminating a dyneema sqaure grid, you are falling for advertising gimmicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gfcuCh7h04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPF7-Ss3ryg

>>890327
>Yeah you were the one complaining about money, 280 bucks for an MLD Cuben bag won't break my bank.

Nope.
Are all ultralight fags schizo like you?

>Where will you move the goalpost to next I wonder?
Nowhere.

http://outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/6818/how-durable-is-cuben-fiber-in-real-practical-use
>What I do know, is that I've read in several places that it is highly resistant to tear but very weak to punctures, to the point that a small branch falling on a tarp will puncture it.

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>>890848
The cuben fiber used in mld packs is laminated with a layer of 150d polyester on either side, it's basically indestructible.

>>890848
Not to mention the cuben used in tarps is literally 1/10th the thickness of pack weight cuben.

>>887945
I promise you will die with that pack before 9 months are up. I know what you mean but so do you.

>>890850
http://www.mountainlaureldesigns.com/fabric.php
>.75oz/26gms is used in our Lightest Pro Level Tarps and Shelters,
>We also offer some of your smaller Mids and tarps in a lighter .5oz sq/yd
>1.5oz 45gms in Packs, Dry Bags, Bear Bags, etc.
>literally

>>890849
Dyneema X =/= Cuben fiber.
Nice try though.

Remember what I said on this taiwanese metal working forum, when a protruding branch punctures your bag.

>>890856
Hmg, the maker of the pack uses:
Woven/Non Woven 150D Cuben Poly Hybrid White (bottom of packs): 5.4 oz/yd2 or 184 g/m2
Woven/Non Woven 150D Cuben Poly Hybrid Black (packs): 5.0 oz/yd2 or 170g/m2
Woven/Non Woven 375D Dyneema Cuben Hybrid (custom packs are all offered in this indestructible material): 5oz/yd2 or 170g/m2
the 1.5 Oz isn't the hybrid fabric either.
Remember when guy on the Sudanese dumpling frying forum proved cuben fiber will last longer than either of our mortal lives?

>>890575
underrated post

>>889008
>I want to be fit to have pleasure, like the hedonistic pleb that I am

okey beta

>>890575
Lol

>>888564
>Tinsel strength?
There is no stronger material for adorning Christmas trees.

>down sleeping bag
>polycro tarp
>sleeping pad
>wet weather sack
thats all i carry in my bag. knife, phone, sanitizer, purification, all that can go in your pocket and you can tie your rain jacket around your waist.

>>888353
>emergency bivy
>emergency tarp
>carry essentials in cargo pants