Brit /out/ General

I was just about to make on of these. Not enough /Brit/s on here.

I've never done any winter walking before, but was hoping to hit the Lake District in February and do some big walks (Helvellyn especially) with my girlfriend. What should we do to prepare, and what should we bring?

Trying to become more /out/, really want to get back into multiday kayak trips

Also go outdoors does a emergency service discount..... Ya I guess

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>>881513
There are a good few, but most of /out/ is american.
Waterproofs and layers will be your friend. Make sure you apply waterproofing to everything and have a tarp near the top of your rucksack so you can quickly make a shelter if it rains heavily or you need to stop to make food.
Be ready to be wet, cold and miserable, but if you're lucky it will be kinda sunny and windy.

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>>881601
Cheers m80

What about the actual walking, how difficult/technical is winter hiking, something like pic related? What kind of experience would we want to get to deal with the climb/weather/terrain?

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>>881656
Unless it snows, then frost is the closest you will get to pic related.
Wind, rain, mud, hail and frost are the things you're going to get.
Mud is going to fuck your trousers and boots, also your tent might get caked in mud.
Depending on how well your waterproofing is, you will either get abit damp or soaked through when it rains.
Wind will make you colder than you would be if you are out in the open, try to camp in sheltered areas, if you can walk on the sheltered side of a hill, do it.
Frost and hail are probably not going to happen but if they do, with hail get in cover (hail doesn't last too long as ive seen), if its frost be careful on hills as the ground will be a wee bit more slippy.
This is all implying the weather is horrible, it could be fine or even grand so be prepared for the worst, and anything better is a bonus.
Walking in winter isn't too different than walking in summer in the UK, just be careful when camping near rivers/streams and keep warm when in camp. Look at a few videos about layering to ensure you are always warm and waterproof.
Good luck on your hike.

I am from the Isle if Lewis. If any of you have questions about outings to the Outer Hebrides ask me.

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Just curious, is wildcamping considered a competitive sport in the UK? There's the "Wildcamp Champ", "World's Greatest Wildcamper" and (pic rel) "Number One Wildcamper" Is this just a youtube thing?

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I've only done small snippets of the SW coast path, but I mean, it's Cornwall, you're not gonna go wrong, are you? The cliffs and beaches are mind-blowing. Only drawback is how exposed it is; walking on those cliffs you can get soaked in no time. All it takes is a cream tea to cure that, though.

Anyone done the Offa's Dyke path? I had a great time arsing around the Wye Valley last year and I'd like to do more in the area.

Anyone recognize this view? Probably the UK's most famous mountain.

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Any other bothy baggers here?

>>881743
A bheil Gàidhlig agaibh?

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>>881778
SW coast is nice, done some intro in it from Ilfracombe to Barnstaple, but damn those pitch prices - 23 quid for a night? Took it only because of being cought out by dark.

>>881977
Fuck, I might just stealth camp where I can then if its £23.
If I have to pay that they better build my tent for me and serve me tea while I am waiting.

>>881977
It's nice out there, Combe Martin(?spelling?) is a gem, definitely taking my fishing gear if I visit again.

Also on the topic of fishing, there's some big cod being caught here on Chesil Beach. Double figure specimens all around, had a 16 pounder the other day. Squid are in too. If I catch any more soon, I'll post pics. Probably gonna try and get a couple trips in while the weathers shite before I'm back out on the boats

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>>881507
I'm not a Brit, but I did most of the "National Scottish Trail this July (basically 1 and 4 on that map). That was tough but a beautifulwalk. Especially north of the great gap, where the Cape Wrath Trail begins it gets really remote and scenic. Far between the villages up north also - some stretches we had to carry 7 days of food or something

Thinking about doing the Icknield Way next year, but I heard the trail gets lost in a lot of places. anyone here done it before?

http://www.icknieldwaypath.co.uk/

>>881507
life is fucking suffering in the East Midlands

>>882119
Word.
Trapped in Nottingham with no car while my mate goats around in the Alps every weekend. Fucking hell.

>>882119
Tell me about it anon. So much expansion from London, even the countryside we had when I was a kid has made way for modern housing and family friendly "nature parks."

>>882119
>>882127
>>882129
What are you guys talking about? Leicester here, 1hr 30 to the Peak District is pretty good going imo.

>>882139
Not so much the drive to other places, it's more the local countryside I mourn. There's small pockets here and there that are nice, but they're almost always rammed with people, and a lot of the wild countryside has completely disappeared.

Northamptonshire here, maybe Leicestershire is a little different.

>>882153
Never been to Northampton. There's loads round here, especially for cycling. I can take Route 6 right from the city centre through parks etc. and end up in the countryside without touching a road, and from there there's country parks and forests all over the place. Plus the Grand Union Canal is there which you can follow in either direction and see some lovely places.

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>>882119
I'm stuck in Southampton for a long while studying, atleast I have the new forest which is about an hour away for weekend trips when I get my camping stuff from back home.

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>>881507
>Brit /out/ General
>>>/pol/

>>881779
Only a wee bit and and I am not so good with reading and writing.

>>882139
Peak District just doesn't cut it for me. I might have not seen all of it but the part I've seen is just a set of hills / plateaus (I mean come on the highest point is below 700m) with basically no forests, people everywhere, towns, roads and civilisation all around you can't never truly feel /out/ in there imho.

>>882103
I hope the weather was nice. The hills North of Ullapool are my favorite place in the country.

>>882179
>>881507
>>>882139
>Peak District just doesn't cut it for me. I might have not seen all of it but the part I've seen is just a set of hills / plateaus (I mean come on the highest point is below 700m) with basically no forests, people everywhere, towns, roads and civilisation all around you can't never truly feel /out/ in there imho.

Agreed. I'm not far from Manchester so I'm around 90 minutes from the Lakes, Snowdonia, and the Peaks - I far prefer N and S to E - peaks is good for caving and wandering about with the kids but it doesn't feel /out/

>>882191
>>882179
Obviously the peaks aren't really comparable to Snowdonia and the Lakes, and the Highlands (where I grew up) are a different thing entirely. But I do enjoy the Peaks in their own way, they're very quaint and 'comfy', especially bleaklow and kinder.

>>882226
True - and trust me I'm not complaining about the Peaks.

I'm taking the kids for an /out/ on Kinder this coming weekend.

Highlands though... And /out/ter hebrides - we're off to Jura for a week or two when it gets proper cold.

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>>881507
Route 12 on that map is amazing. I have done it probably 3 times now? First time when I was like 10 with my parents. Fell in love with Whitby.

Did the Hadrian's Wall walk from East to West at the beginning of the summer this year. Met a lot of great people on that walk going the other way.

>>882162
This is discussing outdoors stuff in the UK, not politics you faggot.

>>882244
How long does Hadrians Wall walk take?

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I'm the guy from >>882191. I agree with >>882226 & >>882233, just missing the proper /out/, which doesn´t mean I can´t enjoy a nice laid back walk by the park

>Pic related, Druid's stone in peak district

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>>882161

>Alaska

>>882351
Just a pic I got when googling "New Forest Camping" m8.

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>>881977
Why would you even think of paying to sleep on the ground in your own tent?

Don't you have sunny days in Britain? I would die if i live there.

>>882382
We get a decent amount of sun between June and September with temperatures getting up to 35 on occasion. Outside that it just rains. Which I don't mind.

>>882382
This Autumn gas actually been very nice and have done many day trips and during the Summer I was able to a couple of overnights on the moor and beach.

>>882180
It more or less rained at least once every 24 hours, and sometimes for most of the day. Did have a few completely dry days but not many. I learned that even gore-tex will soak through eventually

French Anon here, I'm rather curious about the UK as far as nature go, could you dump some pics of the places you go to ?

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>>882764
In the my area, the North of Scotland, we have in terms of large animals deer which are pretty common and wild goats on the West coast.

Smaller animals we have the usual squirels, rabbit and roddents.

For bird life there are many large birds of prey like sea eagles which are fairly common and sparrowhawks which are very common.

Rarer is the Golden eagle which I have seen for sure only seen once. A very immpresive and large bird.

If you do want to come see the eagles the best places to go are coastlines on the Isle of Skye, Isle of Lewis and the Isle of Harris.

I do not have any animal pictures saved on my computer but I do have this picture of St Clements Church, burial place of the chiefs of the clan Macleod.

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>>882764
Will dump a few recent photos.

>>882780
Whereabouts do you live? I'm from Orkney originally but spent a lot of time in the Western highlands as a child.

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>>882781
I am from and live on the Isle of Lewis.

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>>882782
Oh cool, when I was 6 I found a message in a bottle from a birdwatcher who lived on Lewis.

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>>882764
pembrokeshire coast path, pretty sure that's stack rock in the distance

>>882780
Met a McLeod while studying in Aberdeen, good people as far as I can tell

>>882783
That's awesome. What a top thing to experience / remember

~MancFag

>>882764
At worst you will come across a wild boar or maybe a feral goat.
There are always rumours that there is a black panther somewhere in one of our forests although its probably just crap to sell papers.
Chavs or prick policemen are your only real concern.

>>882782
I've been thinking of going up to Stornoway for a while now, my parents lived there for 10 years when my dad was in the RAF and my older sister was born there, they left 18 months before I was born so I've never been to see it.

How good is it for camping up there? Can I pitch up anywhere or do I have to get a campsite?

>>883185
You can wild camp near enough anywhere in Scotland - I believe loch Lomond is one of the few places you're not allowed so you should be absolutely fine

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I'm getting ready to do the Offa's Dyke Path this January with a buddy of mine.

I've had to completely buy new stock and equipment because all of my old stuff was criminally amateurish, cheap and it was all falling apart... Not to mention none of it did what it said it would do properly.

The plan is to finish it in 9 days, which is about 20 miles a day (apart from the last day, which is only 8 miles).

A quick question that I have... Should I invest in a good coat or a good poncho to keep myself dry? I don't know which one would work better.

>>881779
Stayed at Gwynne Fawr Bothy back in March. Lovely little place and it's really amazing how people leave so much food and gear for others to use.

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>>883185
As the previous anon said you may camp anywhere in Scotland as long as you are more than 100m from the nearest road.

Your most scenic spots are down in Harris around Borve with its many miles of sandy beaches. There are a few tourists down that way in Summer but still very nice.

North of Tarbert and in Loch (the place that is) you can find many secluded spots near lochs which make for very comfy camping.

If you are looking for more of a challenge head up North of Storoway, my neck of the woods, the cliffs and rock formations are very impressive and great for spotting eagles.

The camping is difficult as you move away from the coast with extensive wet land, a tarp is what I use setting up next to boulders or shielings.

These shielings are very good to explore you can see how the peoples lived before the war with a few of them still intact and used by yours truly like the one in the attached photo.

Not many of the good spots are marked out on the OS maps so I try to tell sc/out/s I meet were they are.

>>883249
Never used a ponch before but I would say do not get a soft shell jacket. These are very often the worst of both worlds in terms of lightness and keeping the rain out.

Get a good rain coat I'd say.

>>883244
>>883258
Thanks anons, I thought that was the case but I wasn't 100% sure the same rules applied.

I'll be bringing my pup with me too, she's only 6 months at the minute so this will be her first true /out/ experience.

I know this is a stupid question, but everything you detailed is within walking distance right?

>>883261
Of Stornoway no, but there are regular buses out to these places. You can dowload PDFs of the timetables here.

http://www.cne-siar.gov.uk/travel/busservice/current/indexlh.asp

>>883265
Perfect, thanks anon!

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Any Anons near Derbyshire want to do Combs Moss with me?

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2016/oct/15/best-autumn-walks-uk

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>>882764
Loch Lomond, Scotland.

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>>883279
I did a shitty water colour of it too
pls no bully

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Any sussexfags here? Plenty of good hunting and the downs are cosy as fuck here, seems like nobody else on /britout/ is in sussex.

>>883280
I personally think that's a very nice piece of art you've made yourself there.

>>883284
Had a really nice time there around this time last year, did a bit of the South Downs Way, then camped in copses for a week living off road-end eggs and ramsons.

>>883280
I totally fail to see how that's shitty anon. Unless you mean shit load better than anything I could paint lol

>>882780
>>882781
>>882807
>>882956
>>883279

Thanks for the replies lads
Being from southern France even southern England seems rather exotic for me, so I'm considering hiking the UK.
It's more of a /trv/ topic since I'm not only into nature but would also see towns, monuments and stuff but I'm curious about everything

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Wherever you go we have a fair shit ton of towns and monuments.

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>>883448
don't go to any large city in the midlands or london, they're full of muslims and nondesireables.
have fun, there's shitloads of hidden spots of nature and comfy pubs.

>>883486
I've already visited London anyway, I'm more interested in the countryside
I know rural France with its comfy villages is the best France so I figured it's probably the same for the UK

isn't england just as meme as the netherlands when it comes to nature?

only with hills.

>>883508
Yeah there's some real comfy villages mate. make sure to take waterproofs if you're not used to wet weather, ESPECIALLY if you're in the lake district.


>>883519
England does have some mountains, although small compared to others they get quite a bit of snow and you have to have a slight degree of athleticism to climb them.


There's a higher level of forest cover here, and not everything is farmed (plenty of abandoned farmland and plantations that nobody gives a shit about) because it's not flat like the netherlands. There are some areas that get like 15 feet of rain, causing temperate rainforests, and we have more ecosystems than the netherlands.


Netherlands is far, far inferior compared to England.

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Warnscale Bothy (lake district) had the old, uneven, backbreaking slate "benches" removed and were replaced with new ones made from scaffolding planks over the summer, which makes sleeping there a hell of a lot more enjoyable. There was a camp bed stashed underneath one of the beds too. Actually when I took this picture they had only been in there a few days, I must have been one of the first people to use them. Finding them in there was a lovely surprise.

The fireplace was in the process of being rebuilt with a wood burner of some description too, though that had not been finished when I was last there and I haven't yet been back to see if they finished it yet.

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>>883546

Inside.

going to Windermere tomorrow morning for my yearly contitutional around the lake. It's a nice day hike, about 10 miles or so.

>>883535
>causing temperate rainforests
are we talking nice biodiverse forests or just a fuckton of oaks and english ivy.

>>883548

It's a 32 mile walk around the circumference of Lake Windermere. Do you not mean Derwent Water? That's about 10 miles.

>>883552
haha, actually , yes, brainfart there, i did mean derwent water, but was talking about windermere to my gf as i was typing. well spotted

>>883555

Considering the time of year, its not so bad weather tomorrow. Just a bit of scattered rain and showers. Cloudy though. I was considering a quick yomp over Melbreak and back along Crummock if time allows tomorrow. The scree scramble up from the Kirkstile Inn side of the fell is great fun.

>>883551
the latter, along with a shitload of moss. but it does have lots of new species and temperate rainforest is better than just normal temperate tbqh

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>>883560
as expected.

do you have heath?

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I've got a few nice ones from an Army Cadets exercise I did in the summer near Tunbridge Wells

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>>883577
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>>883578
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>>883567
yup, plenty. there's fen, shitty riverswamp wastelands, normal forests, etc

>>883577
Air cadets all the way, mate

Anyone near Southampton?

>>883448
The UK is pretty idyllic desu. There's something about the English countryside that's quite unlike anywhere else I've been.
Don't listen to >>883486 . London is awesome (my home town) and the midlands is a pretty good base to head into the peak district (I go to uni in Nottingham). But don't fall for the common tourist trap and only do London and maybe Edinburgh. All British cities have so much to offer and are massively overlooked by tourists visiting the UK. Everyone just wants to go get a selfie in front of Buckingham Palace baka.

>>881507

I grew up on a small section of that path. Not a regular here but I can highly recommend it.

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Was /out/ yesterday for a little drive. Will post pics.

>>884921
York is nice in particular, alot of history too.

>>884951
please buy a new phone

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Sun going down over the Mersey estuary a few nights ago time lapsed by my daughter while I cooked us some food

>>884951
>>884944
>>884943
>>884942
Where is this?

>>884921
>I go to uni in Nottingham

Just say you're a Trent student already, we're all friends here.

>>884983
Thirlmere

>>884945
This all the way.

York is the nicest city I've been to, good history, aesthetic buildings and the burka brigade is not prevalent.

Okay guys, quick opinion poll: what's your personal favourite /out/ place in the UK? I'd say the western highlands.

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>>884985
was my shame that palpable?

>>885082
>Western Highlands

Got to be up there. Only the rich or knowledgeable know about it too so it's not completely clogged up come summer time with damn southerners, unless you're on the main roads..

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>>885137
>mfw rich southerner
>mfw spent 10 days in a rented castle in Western Highlands this Summer with a large group of rich, southern friends
we know

>>885137
>Only the rich or knowledgeable know about it
But I'm neither

>>885082
>>885137
Hello friendos, first-time poster here. I've just moved to the UK, and I was reading up on some hikes to do come spring/summer. I'm interested in the West Highland Way, in particular. When would you guys say it becomes feasible to hike it? April, May? Later?

>>885530
I mean, it's the UK. It's famous for having some of the most stable and mild weather conditions in the world. The temperature stays between 0 and 20°C all year round. It rains a bit all year round. Occasional high winds all year round. You can go outside at any time of the year.

>>885539
Yes, but I'm Italian. It's already too cold. I don't have the stones to go up to Scotland in November. ;__;

Sup lads, I was watching Midsomer Murders last night, an episode called A Talent For Life and it focused on a fishing club, they kept using "gravel pitters" as an insult towards each other and talking about "weighted lures" being unsporting but they never explained why, can anyone help me understand?

>>885545
You bring the pizza, I'll sort you a quality sleeping bag.

I know this is Brit but I imagine the ecosystem is similar to Ireland, which is where I'm going to study in January. I love fishing, particularly saltwater, and I hope to fish for European flounder while I'm there. My question is this, do flounder there bite during late winter and spring? Also, what kid of baits, rigs, and lures should I use? Same as American flounder, ie mud minnows on carolina rigs and jigs?

>>884990
Looks lush desu, got any more?

>>885593
Spring, summer and autumn for flounder round the UK and Ireland.

Rig as you describe will be good using prawns or any handy crustaceans as bate

>>885606
Thanks man. I'm hella excited.

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>>885600

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>>885640
Got some nice panoramas too big to post

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>>885593
Lugworm, you can get them when the tide goes out or crab and you can't fail.

>>885648
Razor clams handy too - unlike lug worms, if you don't catch any fish you at least still get a feed.

>>885660
>>885648
sea life is fucking gross

>>885648
>>885660
This is interesting to me. I've always fished for flounder in America using a mud minnow hooked through the lip on a carolina rigs near the bottom. I find it odd that European flounder seem to target things other than small fish, which is at odds with American varieties.

>>885530
I was once hit by a pretty bad snowstorm in Tyndrum (on the WHW) in early April, but I don't know how usual that is. I'm sure May would be fine if you have decent camping gear.

The fucking dutch are begging people to plant Sequoia trees along the Hardians wall path! The fiends, dont do this friends.
http://www.nationaltrail.co.uk/hadrians-wall-path/news/please-ignore-plan-plant-sequoia-trees-along-trail

Anywhere good near Hampshire?

>>881756
It's technically illegal in England and Wales in most places.

In Scotland you're cool though.

>>886777
Nice get. I'm Hampshire too and I heard the south down way is okay, no idea on Solent way. I have absolutely no hiking stuff at the moment as im studying otherwise I would definitely do the Solent way in a weekend.
>>886782
I hate the ban against wild camping because camp site can get pretty expensive in summer.

>>886803
>>886777
I'm in Berkshire, tempted to go to the Devils Punch bowl for a day hike, probably only really an hour or two but could do an /out/meet?

>>886803
>camp site can get pretty expensive in summer

they're also full of fucking awful people and annoying children who want to go home