Axe thread

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>>860079
I have a Vaughan carpenter's hatchet. I like it a lot because of the tempered hammer on the back and the fact that it has a narrow concave blade.

BUT it's not heavy, and they aren't great for real chopping. They're good for craft and woodwork (building shelters and relatively light duty bushcraft). I bought an Estwing eventually and that's much, much better at chopping down saplings and splitting up wood.

I still use the Vaughan though for the more light duty jobs or if I need a hatchet/hammer.

Assuming you're in Mearca you should look into a made in USA brand, like Estwing or Vaughan. Just sayin' though.

>>860083
I don't plan on using it for much more than some rough carving, and light bushcraft like you mentioned.
I've got an offer put on it on Ebay, just waiting on a response now

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Norlund Hudson Bay, finest camping axe I've ever used

>>860260
Won the bid. A somewhat rusty, but never used head for a little under 20$ CAD. I'm going to get rust off and try my hand at making a handle once it arrives

>>860261
That looks like a damn nice axe

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Just scored this bad boy at an antique store for 25$ I intend to replace the hammer-like handle with a 3/4 length axe handle

>>860415
nice!

>>860427
looks good. just remeber it's a hammer/hatchet combo. the reason the handle is straight and symmetrical is so you can hold it the same either way. a traditional axe handle shape would make using the hammer awkward.

>>860415
Canadian tire sells hickory axe handles if I recall correctly. You kinda have to pick through them for grain straightness. Umm I know lowes has loose handles too..

I have a fiskers hachet head that came with one of those bullshit fiberglass handles that of course the glue failed. And i rehandled it with redoak.. Well I think it was redoak. Its really hard to identify oaks here because they are so mixed from other species.

>>860427
But that would make the hammer poll useless

>>860440
... or at least awkward which >>860438 said

>>860439
I'd buy a handle if I just needed a handle, but it's not absolutely crucial and I think it's be a good project to occupy a bit of time

>>860491
Ive come back to say it wasn't red oak. That it was liveoak. Kinda pointless but I did want to correct myself.

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> haters can suck it
A nice pair.

>>860633
Would you recommend oak for a handle? I was thinkong birch since I can just go cut it myself without too much fuss, but I'm open to other suggestions as well

>>860641
yeah they're nice brêh.

>>860641
I have the hatchet, not really a fan. I just find them all-around uncomfortable to use

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>>860647
Like anything that is a compronise, they suck at both aspects.

> lighter than any other axe or hatchet
> heavier than any good folding saw

A Silky Saw or Sven Saw is lighter than either and both cut bigger wood better.

>>860672
Excuse me for being retarded but how does that fold

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>>861085

>>861095
Neat

>>860672
>>861095
>axe thread
>suggests fedorish folding saw

Come on dudes, post axes

>>861174
> Sven saw
> fedorish

Shut-in confirmed.

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Don't get hung up on a the name brand
Even old rusty ones can be drought back to life.

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Before

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My Plumb boy's axe I bought for $5. I'll put it against any modern $200 axe anyday

I'm replacing my grandfather's hatchet and axe that had the handles snapped, what's the best way to remove the bits stuck inside the head?

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>>862384
>>862386
what is your preferred method of rust and scale removal? dissolve it with some brand of rust-b-gone, scrape it with a wire brush/wheel, electrocute it off, or heavy-duty noxious metal polishes like pic related?

>>862565
Nice.

>>862584
If wood; burn it out and poke the rest out with a medium-sized stick. Steel wool if you have it.

If not wood, give burning a go but no idea.

>>862635
I should have thought of that, I'll put them in a fire tomorrow.

>>862635
>>862645

DON'T burn it out you'll ruin the temper of the blade. Use a drill to drill out the pieces of wood.

>>862647
Oh, well shit. In that case I'll go back to drill and chisel.

>>862624

Wire brush for light rust because it keeps the protective patina. For pitted or heavily rusted just soak it in white vinegar for a few days.

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>>862565
Plumb axes are fantastic! Wish I found one alot earlier

>>862680
I find clamping it in a vice and using a meat drift and hammering it out works pretty well after drilling out the wedge a bit

>>862851
I've found that Plumb is the most stabil of the old axe brands, which means that Plumb is more stabil than any modern brand. Plus you can usually find them for less than $20 at garage and estate sales.

>>862862
> stabil
> x2

Obviously an educated man.

> inb4 muh ebonics is rekanized

>>862863
Maybe he's not a native English speaker? Think about your words before acting like a cunt, please.

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>>862863

>>862863

Stabil is German for solid, shitlord.

>>863085
>>863194
This.

what is best filing angle for a double bit axe,
>steep like a knife,
or more
>45 degree like a splitting wedge
and what is that best way to get the edge super fine, i have a diamond filing stick thing but i think it only dulls it with how i use it

>>863088
This is a tumblr tier shitpost. Please stop posting tumblr images on 4chan.

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>>863348

OP here, I'm doing a restore of my father's splitting maul if anyone's interested in seeing what I've done so far

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>>863535
it's an imageboard anon. Postem!

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>>863541
Hokay
This is more or less what it was like when I started, minus the sharpening
The head rusty as fuck, held on by fibreglass, and I think it may be upside-down

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>>863708
Fibreglass isn't even really doing its job. Very wobbly at this point

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>>863712
gay handle
not straight at all

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>>863714
Removed all the fibreglass, good riddance

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>>863725
And sawed it off

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>>863729
Removing the remaining wood

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>>863733
Out, finally

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>>863735
It's about at this point that I realise that the head was indeed very likely to have been placed upside-down.
It's weighted much more to what was the top

Removing the last of the fibreglass from the eye
This was a son of a bitch to get

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>>863737
Dipped the head into rust remover
I'm not huge on using chemicals for stuff like this, but my father swears by it so I gave it a go
Partial results of this will be blow, and eventually full results when I reach that point

Start on carving a handle, oak, 33 inches long, a little longer than arm's length. It was the most I could get out of the board before it completely warped to shit. This bit looked decently straight
There are nail holes in this board and I'm worried that might be an issue down the road, though the wood is pretty nice otherwise
I didn't get a pic of the wood before any shaping took place, but here's only partway into the process
There's a lot of wood to thin away, so I'm not too worried about the aforementioned slight warping since I can remove enough to negate the warping somewhat

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>>863741
At this point I check on head. Stuff's looking good, though it obviously needs a little more time. I soak it some more on this side then flip it in its container since I'm not in any rush and it'd be nice to save a bit of the product for later
The steel wool was replaced by plain paper towels later since it was unnessecary

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>>863744
Working some more on the handle

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>>863745
And this is where I am now save for a little more rust gone from the head
I'm giving my arm a break today since I was working at it essentially all of yesterday and I am definitely in need of more practice, just to build up more endurance alone.
It could also help if it were not oak
Maybe

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Axe thread!
Most of my collection.

From right to left:
True Temper Kelly Works Flint Edge, US military issued, recently rehung.
No name ~3lb head on a boys axe handle.
PENTCO half hatchet on custom handle.
Stihl forestry hatchet.
Crkt Birler.
Midwest Tools hatchet.
American Fork & Hoe US military issued hatchet.
(Upside down) True Temper Tommy Axe.

Last two need new handles. Not enough time in the week.

>>863748
Forgot to ask earlier for people's opinions as to whether or not the head was indeed upside-down
I'll post more pics if needed

>>863757
Looks like a well rounded collection, I'm p jelly

>>863789
Could be. It's an axe-eye maul, so there should be a small difference in size between the top and bottom of the eye. The top should be just a little bit bigger.

And no, my collection is far from complete. I still need a Jersey pattern, a double bit, and maybe an Adirondack cruiser, at the very least.

>>863789
Also holy shit. I would not trust that handle you're carving. You weren't kidding about nail holes. I've seen people ditch handles for way less detrimental defects than that.

>>863793
I was afraid the holes would be an unresolvable issue
I guess I can at least keep it for the carpenter's hatchet on the way

And I meant more well-rounded in terms of general usage of each axe

>>863757
Nice desu

>>862584
post a pic of what it looks like, i'm not sure why you would be having trouble knock the bits out. just use a screw driver and a hammer

>>863325
you don't need the edge to be super fine, just sharp enough to cut shit. i just use a file every once in a while, and make sure to remove chips in the blade if you can.
>>863757
>>863793
nice collection, but why so many?

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>>864263
>why so many?

can I get and /out/put on this
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BBOBXD2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

considering getting one, fairly nice size.

>>864318
Personally, I like crkt but I would not buy that.
If you really want a 1-piece tactical hawk, get an Estwing. They're cheap, durable, and the head is based on a tomahawk style that saw combat in Vietnam (and later) conflicts.

>>864263
Some people collect stamps. I'm not one of them.

>>864387
Ok, thanks for the tip. Mainly looking for a small durable axe, just remember stumbling upon the one linked some months ago.

>>864443
A small, durable axe for what? General hatchet duties? If that's the case, a classic Estwing, leather grip hatchet is a great value. Still made in the USA. Personally, I prefer a wooden handle so I can choke up on it for detail work, but still a good, solid hatchet. Home Depot has them.

Another option is a Vaughn half hatchet, available at Lowe's. They're more for carpentry than bush work (thus the flat edge instead of curved) but they'll do the trick.

Lastly, finding old axe heads at flea markets, yard sales, and estate sales, then refurbishing and rehanging can jet you a high quality axe for low cost. It's my personal favorite pastime.

>>864465
Mainly as a jack of all trades axe, something that can be used to cut small tress and logs. Was looking into the gransfors small forest axe, look pretty good and I can get it for a pretty nice price here.

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>>864517
This one

>>864518
Should be fine. I hate internet orders, though. I prefer purchasing where I can see the grain orientation.

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>>862862
Just finished the leather work

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I have a Hultafors like this one.

Pretty much the most basic of all basic axes, but it gets the job done.

>>864554
GB is pretty good about their grain orientation.

I have a few of their axes and hatchets

>>864800
I don't buy many new axes. I keep an Estwing short camp axe in my trunk for work because i don't care about it. The CRKT Birler I fell in love with. And the Stihl was more because I like the brand (the head is nice but the handle is awful thick...).

I have much more fun buying old axes and refurbishing them. Wish I had more excuses to bring them out, apartment living sucks. Hopefully scheduling a wilderness camp out in November.

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>*breathes in*
>mmmuuh-muh

>>865457
>carving ax but intends on using it for chopping
>rust ON THE RUSTPROOF COATING
gg wp m880

>>865457
That's pretty gay

>>865477
>carving ax

That's their "Gränsfors Broad Axe", literally their most sold model. Did you seriously look at that edge and somehow think it is a carving axe?


Amerifat /out/ is worst /out/

>>865499
Broad axes are used for carving my man

>>864269
i mean its a valid question, you need just about one axe to chop wood so im not sure why you would bother having two or like 6

>>865477
>>865573

the grind is what determines a carving axe, just stop posting

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>>865576
So if I grind this right, it'll be a good carving axe, right?

Grind helps, but don't act like head shape and weight don't also factor in

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>>860079

Picked this up last week. Smells great.

>>865579
>american trying to be an authority on axes
>traditional european axes that most of us own 100+ year old axeheads of


le maos

>>866021
>European looking for a reason to feel special.

>>866021
It doesn't matter how old your axe is or where you're from because you're still wrong
If you can show that any axe can be used for carving depending solely on the grind, I'll believe you. Until then, I'll assume you have no idea what you're talking about

>>864518
Or you can get a Husqvarna for 1/5 the price at exactly the same quality (or even better grain orientation) with a slightly heavier head.

I'm restoring two hewing hatchets and a broadhead. I'd like to use one of them next weekend, but I need new handles for all 3. Any sites you'd recommend that have super fast shipping? The hewing heads are vintage plumb and stiletto I got from my grandfather if that helps. The broadhead is a craftsman that's about 10 years old

>>866207
Don't have any mom and pop hardware stores around? They usually have a decent selection of handles. Do It hardware has them.

As long as you know who look for and avoid a perpendicular grain, you should do fine.

>>866218
I actually bought a few this afternoon but they didn't fit my heads correctly unfortunately. I bounced between Lowes and Tractor Supply but they had a limited selection so I just rolled the dice. I'm sort of getting desperate. It's not imperative that I have on next weekend, but I'd prefer to have a hewing hatchet on hand instead of carrying another knife to baton tinder.

>>866243
What was wrong with the fit?

>>866243
If you're willing to do some carving, this guy sells custom blanks.
http://thraneaxeandsawco.com/product/handle-blanks/
Don't know how fast he is, though.

House Handle mostly sells bulk to tool companies, but they do sell to individuals too. They have a hand-picked option, but you still might get something less than great.

>>866258
Attached pic is same design as the head I attempted to use today. The handle was wide enough at the top to fill the head correctly without leaving dead space. The head would also dig into the handle before it was close to fitting.

>>866263
Thanks! I'll check them out.

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>>866302
forgot pic

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>>866304

>>866302
You'll need to post a picture of the head-to-handle fit, because I don't get what your problem is.

Any handle should require some carving to properly fit a head.

>>866306
>>866304
>>866302
>>866263
>>866258
I'll post some pics of my actual head and the only handle I have left tomorrow to see if you guys think I can get it to work. Im only really interested in the stiletto in particular and would like to make it look nice again, and add it to my pack permanently.

>>866316
To your pack? Why would you hike with a hewing axe?

>>866322
>wouldn't hew like to know?

I'm here all week

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>>866837

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>>866837
Why, I oughta...

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Bamp.

Also close-up of the US issued Flint Edge axe, Dayton pattern, that I hung.

The handle is an Ames True Temper that the previous owner (whom was issued the axe, now deceased) purchased long ago as a replacement. Never got around to it, himself.

Much thinner than current Ames True Temper handles available at Home Depot, but not as nice a swell at the knob. Still, a comfortable handle.

Now to prime and paint the head back to original olive drab, and give her a good edge.

>>866837
hhuehuehuehuehewhew hew hew hew

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>>860079
>Also general /axe/ thread

"An Ax to Grind: A Practical Ax Manual"

http://www.fs.fed.us/t-d/pubs/htmlpubs/htm99232823/index.htm

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/recreational_trails/publications/fs_publications/99232823/index.cfm

PDF file at:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/100873941/USDA-An-Ax-to-Grind-A-Practical-Ax-Manual#scribd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22tBYD-HMtA

Table of Contents
Acknowledgments
Brief History of the Ax
Evolution of the Ax in America
Ax Types, Patterns, and Uses
American Felling Ax
Double–Bit Ax
Broad Ax
Other Axes and Hatchets
Adzes
Decline of the American Ax
Getting the Hang of It
Basics of Handle Selection
Hanging Procedure
Sharpening
Using Axes
A Most Versatile Tool
Using an Ax Safely
Chopping Technique
Felling Trees
Limbing
Cutting Pinned–Down Saplings
Bucking
Splitting
Hewing
Buying an Ax
New and Used Axes
Manufacturers
Distributors
Organizations
Selected References
About the Author

What's the best way to tighten a loose axe head? I have a tomahawk that's more for decoration than any practical use; ideally I'd like to keep it on the original handle.

>>868528
Depends. Is it a hatchet or a traditional tomahawk?

A tomahawk head slides down the handle similar to a pickaxe. If the head gets loose, you drop the handle on a hard surface, head down, forcing the head to slide up to a thicker portion of handle.

If it's a wedged hatchet, dunk the head into some boiled linseed oil. It'll soak into the eye and swell the wood fibers, tightening it to the head. If it's super loose, you probably need to remove all wedges and rehang.

I have
1 faithful hatchet from tractor supply
1 double bit weeaboo Estwing axe.
1 Cold steel Shovel
1 Cold Steel viking hand axe.
Come at me brah

>>868669
>cold steel
Why would you do this?

>>868672
because i deserve it anon...

>>868682
Anon, I...

>>868672
Ill be honest, I dont quite understand the hate cold steel gets. Is it just a dip meme? or justified? I bought those cause I needed a short hand shovel that isnt all metal for a good price, and the viking axe because i couldnt help it honestly, and impulse bought it to customize on the wood and head.

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Okay guys, talk me out of pic related - GB small hatchet. It is the lower ax here, above is a regular sized hatchet.

>10 1/2" overall length.
>cutting edge is 2 1/2".
>Total weight is 12oz

Basically a 1/2lb hatchet. As a replacement for 'muh big knoife', general camp craft and kindling prep.

Y/N?

>>868694
yes yes yes. You won't be disappointed. I know GB are a meme nowadays but they do make quality axes.

>>868837
how the hell is GB a meme? what happened?

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>>868840
200 bucks for the small forest axe.

>>868688
It's their whole
>ULTRA-TACTICAL, INCREDIBLY SHARP, CAN CUT THROUGH ANYTHING, AND SURVIVE AN ATOMIC BLAST
marketing and image desu
Gives the impression it's made for mallninjas by mallninjas, but if their products work, they work, and there's not much else to say

>>868694
No. Get a husqvarna.

>>868672

In fairness, that shovel is actually pretty damn good. You just have to get the damn lacquer finish off the handle and use BLO instead.

>>868837
I so want it but have other things I want to buy first ahh I don't know!

>>868997
Husqvarna don't do a 1/2lb head.

My current big knife is about 350g, I don't want to go heavier than that, and I already have (albeit a shit) hatchet.

Sick of sharpening my khukri, pretty soft steel and the recurve is a total bastard on my stones. I figure a little hatchet with a 2 1/2'' face is 3 and a bit times less real estate I need to worry about.

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OP here, the hatchet head finally came in. Gonna start on a handle for this bad boi

>>869927
ooo very handsome

>>868688
>>868951
You have to keep in mind that Cold Steel makes a ton of different products.

A decent number of their products are actually well made and good for the money, others are overpriced, some are only good because they're cheap, and a good deal of them are indeed gimmicky and mall ninja.

>>868520
I love those videos. If everyone on /out/ would just sit down and watch them...

>>869945
It's got a few dings here and there plus some minor surface rust, but it does indeed look like it's never actually been used. Essentially brand-new
I'm debating whether or not I should sand it down or keep the bit of a patina that's on it. It's smells like it's been in contact with oil so it should be well-protected as-is

>>868688
If an anon grew up actually having used Cold Steel products, they probably got low-end products because they were inexpensive. Most Cold Steel products are low-end, and they're absolute crap. Soft steel, handles and tangs that bend and break, shitty edge retention, tacky design decisions that serve no purpose. For most of its existence, Cold Steel has been almost 100% dogshit.

Over the past few years the company has started to realize and accept that they can make more money on higher priced products of acceptable quality than they could on lower priced products of shit quality. They currently do make some acceptable production knives and a couple of good fighting knives. (I'm not up on their other tools.)

Cold Steel's quality might be good nowadays, but myself and many others aren't going to spend quality-brand amounts of money on products from a company that was built on anything but quality.

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>>870048
True. They may make some genuonely good products but, for me at least, their reputation is tarnished by their cheap, gimmicky shit.

>>870529
Update on the handle: oak is hard to work with

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>>870874
Before carving/really doing anything with the wood

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Thoughts on what this might be?

Head is 500g

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No maker's mark

I got this first, no idea what it's history is. Stamp is fucking badass!

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>>870911

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>>860079

I have one of these, OP, they're a good find. Mine has a REALLY thick blade so it doesn't chop very deep. It seems like it'd make a good broad hatchet if filed down to a single bevel or good all-purpose hatchet if given a better profile in general since the steel seems quality. I mainly use mine to strip logs at the moment. Pictured is the mini-hatchet I use for most finer woodworking and carving stuff so the blade width looks even more pronounced.

>>864269
Apply that pic to you, holy shit.

It's a legitimate question.

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>>871065
The question is legitimate, the answer is Autism. Anon has so many hatchets and ackses because Autism.

>>864701
Nice job. Jelly of your skills desu.

Anyone have some links to a general beginner's basic ax/hatchet guide? Including safety would be nice too.

>>868520
Looks like I should have read further before asking. Thanks anon, I'll check it out.

>>871067
That's like calling someone autistic because he has 1/4" 3/8" and a 1/2" ratchet.
Each has a purpose. Or some just like to collect things.

>>868528
Soak the head and handle in antifreeze.

>>871067
Some people aren't poor, and can afford to buy things they like.

For instance, you likely have far more than one Pokémon card, all of which perform the exact same job of not-a-damn-thing.

>>869927
Looks good. Sharpen it in a draw-filing motion. The flatter your edge bevels, the better it will work for small tasks.

If you want an outdoors hatchet, a curved edge bites better. I wouldn't suggest that as a mod to this head, due to the amount of material one would have to remove it might screw up the balance.

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I want to buy a hatchet for camping/hiking. I can't decide whether to just go down to the hardware store and pick up a Fiskars x7, or go full rich cunt and get the GB hatchet.

The money isn't really a problem but I'll probably just use it once or twice a year. The x7 probably makes more sense but the GB stuff is just so cool.

Advice?

>>871782
The fiskars is fine. But, just because you don't know otherwise.
When you use an axe with Swedish steel, you will not want to use any other axe.
Pick up Husqvarna hatchet. Like $30 on Amazon. Head made by hultafors.

>>868520
>PDF file at:
>http://www.scribd.com/doc/100873941/USDA-An-Ax-to-Grind-A-Practical-Ax-Manual#scribd

Is this available elsewhere so I don't have to fiddle around with apps etc

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I bought the Cold Steel Trail Hawk one day while drunk. Should I even fucking bother using it for anything?

>>871951
There are some youtube videos on it, looks quite handy actually.

>>860079
Husqvarna is ultimate bargain and reliability.

>>871775
I'm not really planning on using it mich innawoods, so that's fine. Thanks for the sharpening tip, too

>>871782
I'm not a fan of the Fiskars handle, specifically on the hatchet. The handle is slightly too short, especially with the weird curve at the butt end. That in addition to the lightness of it generally, but this might just be a personal preference. I can sum it up by saying that it's almost good; just close enough to be decently serviceable yet still far enough away that it's frustrating that it's not better

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>>871951
>Cold Steel

>>860079
Hatchet lover here.

Genuinely curious. Is there any reason one would want a tomahawk over a hatchet? I may be wrong here but i always thought tomahawks were weapons built for splitting skulls while hatchets were tools meant for splitting wood. Are tomahawks marketed to mall ninjas who don't really know what they're doing?

>>871782

Sometimes Fiskars axes have a lot of soft steel on the edge that needs to be filed off before they'll sharpen easily and stay sharp. Other than that, they're great beater axes, it mainly just depends on how you feel about the handle.

Council Tools has the best feeling wooden handles of new made axes IMO, they have cheap axes that are nice but less "finished" and fancy ones made to compete with Scandinavian stuff.

>>872204
Well, it's a balance. They each have their ups and downs.

A tomahawk could be considered primarily as a weapon, but makes for a decent tool. A hatchet is primarily a tool, but makes for a decent weapon.

If you're camping for more than a few nights, a tomahawk has the added benefit of a field replaceable handle. If your handle breaks, you can use the head to carve a serviceable replacement without having to shape a handle, cut the kerf, whittle a wedge, fit to the eye, and pound in the wedge. Just find a solid branch, cut to size, and carve a taper. Boom. Done.

>>872319
Good answers Annon. Can you not do the same with a hatchet though?

What axe would work best for cracking a pepsi open?

>>871782
GET. THE. HUSQVARNA.

unless you are a backpacker who has the cash and wants the slightly lighter GB the Husqvarna is every single bit as good. Seriously. Grain orientation, steel, pin, everything. Just get it.

>>872387
You mean field-hafting it in the same manner as a tomahawk? No.

The hatchet has a long, narrow eye. Even if you spent the time carving a piece to slip through it from the top, it's going to be VERY uncomfortable to use.

>>872396
The tripfag or the drink?

>>872319
the fudd lore is strong in this one.

Do you own either? Have you ever carved a haft?

Fucking armchair survivalist here....

>>872574
I guess the basic shit described in that post is so advanced to you, it sounds like impossible boasting?

>>863757
Opinion on the Birler?

>>860641
Might be good for splitting but they're shit for much else.

>>862680
>tfw I spend at least 2 hours trying to get an old handle out of the eye without damaging the metal wedge, every time.

>>863325
I don't measure it, but my edges on my smaller axes are about as fine as my knife, maybe a bit thinner. There are as many ways to sharpen something as there are ways to use said sharpening tool, that is, an infinite amount of ways. I use small lansky oilstones, then strop at a very shallow angle to avoid rolling over the edge.

>>863748

When you're done wet some leather and sew it near the head if you have shit aim like me, prevents fucking up the handle with overstrikes

>tfw no old splitting maul heads, only shitty modern ones.

>>864517
>>864517

24" camp axe, in my opinion >>864518 is too short for a jack of all trades, but that just might be me with my big fuggin hands.

>>872703
Switch and bate, are you a trump supporter?

Answer truthfully,

Do you own an axe and a tomahawk?

Have you ever rehafted either?

Have you ever rehafted either in the field?

Or are you just repeating stuff you've read online.

>>873429
I own axes. I own tomahawks. I've rehafte several axes, and even a fucking retard could carve a mild taper.

Seriously, this shit isn't rocket science. I'm not talking about tactical ninja shit. Pick up a fucking chisel, for Christ's sake.

Obviously you don't own a traditional tomahawk or else you'd know it's simple shit.

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>>873628
Pic related. Most recent hang, an old True Temper Tommy Axe I picked up at an estate sale. The original handle was rotting away in the eye, so I couldn't salvage it.

I took an 36" handle that had broken, slimmed it down, carved to fit, cut the kerf, seated and wedged. I then torched it and applied several coats of a 50/50 mix of boiled linseed oil and pine tar.

Satisfied? Your turn.

>>873116
Haven't put it through its paces, yet. It was a bit of an impulse buy.

I like the grip. Chokes up good for detail work.

The factory edge needs work. I need to flatten it out with some draw filing. As it stands, it's sharp, but more of an appleseed grind.

There's a leather sheath sold separately, but I work with leather so I ain't shelling out for it.

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got my first axe a couple days ago. Instead of shelling out on a new one I decided to restore an old one.
Here's the condition I got it in minus a few strokes with a wire brush.

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Putting it into a vinegar bath to remove some of the rust

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Here's the finish after the bath and some light hand sanding. Decided to keep the finish as is. Mostly because I don't have any power tools capable of taking away that much metal and I can't be arsed to file away the entire outer layer by hand. WD40 to dry out after the bath followed by a layer of oil.

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The "edge" it came with was way too steep an angle and severely degraded so I reset the edge grind by hand with a couple of files. Gonna go over it properly with a stone tomorrow before fitting the handle.
So /out/ managed to get this for £8, its a 3lb miners axe head so the poll is properly hardened. Going to add a 28' handle. Did I do good?

>>873983
>>873984
>>873985
>>873997
Looking pretty good. My grandfather recently gave me a hatchet head in similar condition, so hopefully it turns out as well as yours

>>873983
Looks like a modified half-hatchet, often called a chickenhawk.

Lighter, very handy. I like them on a longer, slender, straight handle. Maybe about 18 inches.

>>873632
Nice. What's that "hook" on the back end? I don't shit about tomahawks.

>>873997
Pretty good job anon. It's good to see that someone takes the time to bring a tool back to working order.

>>874175

Likely used for pulling up nails

>>874175
Above anon is right, it's a nail puller.

True Temper made this line of hatchets alongside their "Tomahawk", which was identical minus the nail puller.

The tomahawk name, in this case, was a marketing ploy as they are not true tomahawks.

>>874259
>>874313
Thanks

>>872176
hey the trail boss is nice

>>872319
>>873628

prioritizing use as a weapon at all for /out/ uses. You should be considering your tools for what they're intended for, which is going to be processing wood.

If you need a weapon take a gun.

As breaking a haft, well, I don't worry about it. For the same reason as I don't take a 1/2'' thick knife, I don't want to compromise utility for a perceived sense of durability.

So unlikely to break a haft, and even more unlikely to be in a situation where your life depended on it, I can only really see an armchair survivalist putting that much weight on the fact that it's easier to replace the haft. You said it yourself it IS possible to replace an axe haft in the field, tho it may take longer.

A hatchet and a hawk are not comparable. If you want to split wood and prep kindling then the right answer is always axe. It's what it's designed to do. You can do it with other tools, and subjectively no one is wrong, I often take a khukri because it's fun, but objectively it's the axe that's designed to do that task.

>>874771
I wasn't telling you what you need, Capt Butthurt. I offered up simple comparison. You read way to far into that to get so pissy.

>>874771
I agree with you generally, but not everywhere allows you to carry a gun

>>874771
>I often take a khukri because it's fun
>because it's fun

>Purposely carries inefficient equipment
>Accuses someone else of being an armchair survivalist

Chuckle.bmp

>>870876
Update if anyone's interested
I'm gonna slim it down considerably for my slim hands

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>>875789
Oh fuck, just realised I forgot the picture

>>868520
>>871948

PDF without Scribd

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/recreational_trails/publications/fs_publications/pdf/pdf99232823.pdf

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>>865612
I lold

>>875865
My nigga
Thanks

>>875807

looks noice, needs sanding or shaving to smooth it out but still, looks pretty good.

apply linseed oil and pine pitch in spades once you're done.

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>>876242
I'll sand once I feel good about the rougher work.
I'm afraid I fucked up the eye though, and cut it a little too small. The head seats decently well but I don't know if it will cause any issues. I'll take a picture of what I'm talking about once I get home

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>>876286
I was busy last night but this is the issue I'm talking about.
Any advice, anyone?

>>877195
Damn. Took off a little too much material. I don't know if that'll fill properly once wedged.

You can try, but you may have to chalk it up to experience and start over if this axe is going to see use.

>>877210
Yeah, that's what I was concered about :(
I'm especially worried since I'm afraid it'll split once I get a wedge in there.

If I could, though, would it be possible to hold it safely in place with just the pinch on the sides? Or does all the eye need to be filled?

>>877224
A little space at the front (pointed portion of the eye) is common, which you generally want to fill from the top and bottom with narrow shims.

But that's about the only gap that's okay. Your wedge is going to split it pretty far to fill the eye. If you do try it, make sure it's seated towards the back of the eye, wedge tightly, then spike the gap at the front. You might be alright, but next time you're going to go a lot slower removing material.

>>877261
Cool, thanks for the advice. I'm basically taking this as a lesson learned but if I could also get a usable handle that's be a-okay as well.

>>877280
Another option is to put it aside until you find a smaller hatchet with an eye it'll fit better.

>>877315
This
Now get started on your new handle and incorporate what you learned making this one.

>>873241
>Might be good for splitting but they're shit for much else.
i have to disagree.
i have the x7 and it's perfectly fine all around hatchet ultra light sharp splits and cuts well. absolutely no issues.

>>877315
>>877715
Cool, that's what I'll do then. Probably won't choose oak for the next one. That was a dumb idea

>>877859
Yeah. I've read oak is a poor choice. Don't recall the reasons offhand.

Hickory, ash, Osage orange are whats always been suggested to me.
If you don't have ready access, this guy sells quality blanks at very reasonable prices.

http://thraneaxeandsawco.com/product/handle-blanks/

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>>877889
My issue is mostly that it's hard to work, which probably led to taking away too much material, ironically enough
I did get to cleaning up the head, though. I initially was going to keep it as it was, but I got a few spots of rust on it due to sheer negligence that I was going to have to remove anyway. I think it was a good choice

>>877934
What are you removing wood with? Judging by how far you passed the point of no return, I'm guessing belt grinder with 80 grit.

You might want to try a small knife or a set of chisels. It takes longer but, with practice, you have far greater control over your shape.

Alternatively, use finer grit belts so you're not wiping away material so quickly.

>>878191
I whittled it away with another hatchet, which is exactly as dumb as it sounds. I'll use a rasp for my next attempt

>>878191
>>878265
I do think the problem is in using oak though. It took me over 2 hours to do what I did but it was difficult to tell when I was removing too much since I had to more chip away at it than remove straight slivers

>>878265
>>878266
Carving hatchets are certainly a thing but, yeah, you put them down for detail work.
Another suggestion, if you didn't already do this, is to trace the top hole of the eye onto the end of the piece. This will give you a good idea of when to slow down.

Keep in mind, the fit of the head should be snug. You don't want it flopping around, nor should you need to beat tge snot out of it with a mallet to fit.

If you've sized the end properly, you should be able to hold the head in your hand and seat it fully with a few taps from w hammer on the bottom of your handle. The wood should stick out beyond the eye, which you can trim as desired after wedging.

You want you kerf to extend about 2/3 through the eye. Use a piece of scrap wood over your wedge so you can hammer it evenly (otherwise is breaks apart, which is fine but unsightly).

Your step wedges can be angled, but try to keep them inside the wooden wedge. Too much into the wood of the handle itself can cause splitting along the grain which can eventually extend down into the grip. Some people prefer to pound them in running perfectly parallel to the wooden wedge.
Obviously, choose the correct sized wedges for the application. One or two small step wedges will be plenty to lock your main wedge in place.

>>878286
You're a bro.
I'd marked out the eye, but I just took it a little too far.
I'll start at a new handle in the next few days and keep all the advice in mind.
Thanks my dude

And I'm not dealing with oak this time

UK fag here that lives on a farm.

Its funny to read these threads. I have been using an axe all my life and dont know half of the info in this thread.

I have picked up some tips but here is my advice to anyone that is new to /out/:

Stop reading and just get out!

>>864713
I have the same one. Amazing axe for the money, and comparable to something like a Gransfors

>>879373
They let you have axes there?
I thought they made you bin your knives :^)
All jokes aside, what made sense itt to you?

bump lads

>>860079
So knife thread told me to fuck off.

I usually use a machete for my camp activities. Generally it's for wood related stuff. IE batoning, cutting up some firewood, and so on. Nothing real serious or big. Well I loaned my machete to a friend and the dumb ass broke it. So I'm in the market for a tool to make firewood and clear brush. I don't need to chop down a freaking tree, just have a nice little camp fire. I do have a camp axe, but it's a tiny hatchet and it doesn't really work for shit (friends way of "apologizing", yes I'm still mad).

Budget is $200 and under. Long as I can chop up wood 6" or less in diameter I'm happy. Brush clearing ability is also well loved as it makes setting up camp easier.

>>872116
frankly the handle and the lightness is the best features right after how awesome it cuts and also splits. with a short handle like that you don't get the resonance you have on the long axes that some people hate.

>>885459
If you're accustomed to a machete, and already have an axe, consider the Fiskars brush axe.

After a proper sharpening, it became one of my favorite, most used tools. Versatile as fuck.

I wouldn't baton with it, but brush and small trees? Ain't shit.

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>>885505
fiskars lately...

>>885459
>Long as I can chop up wood 6" or less in diameter I'm happy.
with a machete you can chop wood up to a finger thick if it's softer wood.

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>>885514

oh wow that's an actual thing... fiskars is getting a little wacky

>>885518
i can actually see this work in a garden tho.

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>>885517
Going to get another Condor in week or two.

I love their stuff.

>>885519
what the fuck is this for?

>>885526

wasting money

>>885519
>>885514
>>885518

I want the whole set!
Do they come with a belt holster?

>>885558
i think the big one has back sheath like ninja swords.

>>885521
If I remember rightly the "woodman's pal" type thing was designed for hacking away roots to set up airstrips in WW2, or something like that. So the end is blunt for being whacked into the ground.

>>885505
Well I could probably live without batoning. It isn't like I'm trying to be the king of wilderness survival or anything.

>>885514
This does look cool, how well does it work for getting firewood and whats the price on it?

>>885518
This looks more like some cold steel memery. Saw could be nice but I've gone without one until now, probably won't need one anytime soon (for camping at least).

>>885519
So how well does it work as an axe?

>>885517
I think you confused DIAMETER and CIRCUMFERENCE.
Diameter is how big across a circle is. So if you had a piece of wood, it would be how thick it is.
Circumference would be the distance around the outside of a circle, or in this case, a piece of wood.

>>885638
>I think you confused DIAMETER and CIRCUMFERENCE.
what makes you think i confused anything?

>>885562
had too look at a vid how this is done, and came to the conclusion that it is indeed a very useful shaped tool for certain things but... it would be fucking tiring to do this all day you have to bend down why not put a longer handle on it if you really use it for work? i mean light gardening ok, but stripping an airfield?

>>885525
Condor is good.

The paint is gay tho.. But nothing a can of aircraft stripper can't handle.

(Never had a rust problem on my machetes yet with bare steel don't even wipe them off. Just leave the junk on unless its sticky.)

>>885741
>with a machete you can chop wood up to a finger thick if it's softer wood
So either you think a machete can't be used on anything bigger than about 2-3" thick or you confused diameter and circumference.

>>885755
machete shouldn't be used on anything thicker than your finger. shitty machetes shouldn't be used on anything thicker than 1/2" it's for cutting weed and grass and bush. not trees.
i have seen a few machetes that were sturdy like a butchers axe and made of good steel but i'm not even sure they should be called machetes.

>>885772
Generally speaking when I'm talking about a machete, it's pretty much any bladed object over 7" long that isn't an ax. The one I used to have was a Bolo. Some cheap thing I'd gotten a while back, but it did it's job well. Then I loaned it and stupid friend broke it.

Pic isn't mine, it's simply an example of what a bolo would look like.

>>885777
yeah bolos are made tough sometimes. especially the old military bolos.

>>871951
it will be a lot less effective than a real hatchet at hatchet stuff.
what makes the tomahawks better overall for some is they are also a weapon (unlike axes and hatchets made for cutting wood).
expect a lot of suck processing wood with that. but it will work.

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I bought one of these 12" axes off ebay for like 8 bucks. It's going to fall apart as soon as I need to use isn't it?

>>885907
it looks like ubiquitous Coghlan's/Coleman/etc/etc axchet that's all over ebay, amazon, aliexpress, etc.

I won't fall apart right away but if you dare try to chop down a tree or pound away an ice dam or anything like that it'll start rattling. Also, it'll need a sharpening which will make it pretty decent for light work.

>>885910
Fuck it then, guess I'll look for something better for cutting down stuff.

>>885911
You can't cut anything with that. It's a tiny hatchet.

It can't fall apart because it's one piece steel with a rubber grip. You can fuck up the grip and cause problems though.

It's basically for splitting kindling, that's it.

>>885939
Ah

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last week i buy my husqvarna carpenter axe .I am pleased with it

>>885939
>It can't fall apart because it's one piece steel with a rubber grip.
doesn't look one piece at all

Looking to buy an axe for chopping down trees 6-14" in diameter and breaking trees into smaller sections (swinging down on felled trees).

Considering Husqvarna Traditional (Multi-purpose) Axe, my only concern is that the handle is 26" long which looks a bit short.

I'm 6'2" what are some thoughts on whether I would be better served with a longer handle, maybe 32" or so? What are some good options in a similar quality/price range?

>>886293
If you want to fell and buck trees, a full sized 36" axe is going to serve you best.

Smaller axes are good for limbing, carving, and camp duties. Mostly they're easier to pack along.

What you need will depend on how much you plan to perform this task, and whether or not you have to hike a distance to where you'll be doing it.

>>886294

Walking distance is negligible.

I plan to do this frequently, hope to provide plenty of wood to heat the cabin/sauna and start to get into woodworking and construction.

>>886304
Well, start by looking local. You might find something good.

Personally, I can't find shit around me. Everything is Fiskars or HD/Lowe's brand garbage.

Council Tool, Wetterlings, Hults Bruk, Gransfors Bruks... a 36" single or double bit axe from any reputable manufacturer will serve you well.

Collins is no longer reputable.

If you're buying an axe at a brick and mortar store, check the grain structure at both ends. The closer it is to parallel with the edge orientation, the better.

>>886315
Another option is to refurbish a vintage axe head, and hang it on a new handle.

Flea markets, antique/junk shops, scrap yards, eBay... all are good places to find quality axe heads for decent prices. You might need to clean it up, remove rust, grind away any mushrooming, and fix a mangled edge.

Then, new handles can usually be found at any decent mom-and-pop hardware store. HD carries Ames handles, which are VERY hit or miss (and tend to require a lot of material to be removed for a comfortable grip). Link handles are good, but you still need to know what to look for.

House Handles primarily deal in bulk, but they do sell to individuals with a hand-picked option. Lots of handle types. I've heard complaints, but mostly good products from their website.

>>886315
>>886321

Thanks for the advice. Currently looking at Council Tool's 3.5# Jersey Classic w/ Forged Bevels; 36″ Curved Wooden Handle. $75

I have a high interest in hanging axe heads I can find locally but I'd like something ready to go so I won't be delayed in chopping this winter and have a reliable tool while I get the hang of things.

>>886489
It quickly becomes an addiction.

Check out the Axe Junkies group on Facebook. A huge collection of knowledge and inspiration.

What kind of axe can I use to open a Pepsi?

>>886569
Cold Steel of course

I have an estwing camp axe. I got it on sale at Home Depot. I used it all summer living in a river camp in Alaska, as well as the road trips up there and back.

Pretty solid axe for the money. It got some rough use this summer but with only a few knicks on the blade.

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>>887986
Some old axe heads.

Can somebody recommend me a good axe for breaking through ice?

>>885551
Blew air through my nose, kek.
It's true.

>>885519
What's with the holes?

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>>888022
They're speed holes, stupid.

>>887986
w2c?

>>888290
kek

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I'm contemplating a Husqvarna 13 inch axe. Very cheap at $40 and only a 2 lb head. I hear many good things about it.

Anyone have personal experience with their axes?

>>888290
I figured I'd get that for an answer.

>>888512
I've seen other anons speak highly of them.

>>888512
dunno but fiskers x7 is going to run circles around it (based on the reviews i watched and my personal exp) and only 1.1lbs total

>>888903
The Fiskars X7 is a good hatchet, yes, but it's not going to run circles around anything beyond >>885907

>>889393
the husq13 is overbuilt very heavy and not that good at either cutting or splitting due to blade geometry. all the youtube reviews i saw about it were utter disappointment and people swearing they only don't send it back because it's so cheap.

>>888854
>I've seen other anons speak highly of them.
and i have often heard the term
>handforged beater!? what is the fucking point of that??

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What do you guys do when your head starts to get loose? I've always just hammered a horseshoe nail in there and it holds it steady for a few years. As you can see though im running out of space.

>>889819
Rehandle it obvously

>>889819
On YOUR case, remove the handle and rehang the head on a new one.

For small loosening issues (which you are far beyond), adding nails is the wrong way.
Step one would be applying boiled linseed oil, liberally, to the eye. This will swell the fibers and tighten the fit. Same idea as the "dunk the head in a bucket of water" trick, but water is bad for the handle.

Next step, is the first failed, is to gently attempt to seat the head slightly further down onto the handle. Then tap the existing wedges in a bit further.

Step 3 is to add a steel wedge PARALLEL with the wooden wedge. The job of a steel wedge really into take up space, that's the wood wedge's job. The steel wedges are for locking the wooden one in place. Hammering them in perpendicular or angled can cause splitting through the handle.

Recommend me a good axe.

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>>892243
Just sharpen it. You won't need anything more expensive or snowflake than this.

>>892243
I can't recommend a vehicle if I don't know it's intended function. Maybe you need a large off-road vehicle, maybe you need a subcompact with great gas mileage.

Same goes for axes. What are your requirements and expectations?

>>892360
Wood cutting and maybe field dressing
>>892245
Tell me more, papi

>>892363
Wood cutting? You're still being very vague.
Are you talking about felling large trees, bucking them into logs, and splitting them into firewood and kindling?

If so, any 3.5lb single bit on a 36" handle, from a quality manufacturer will do the job. Council, Hults Bruk, Gransfors Bruks...

If you want a quality hatchet for general work, I love my Stihl Universal Forestry Hatchet. All my other hand axes are vintage.
The wooden handled, store-brand hatches from Lowes and Home Depot seem OK for the price. Good starters, though I'd about their full size axes.

>>892367
Mostly bucking them into logs tinder, splinting fire wood, maybe some field dressing.

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Just bought this to go with my brand new Fallkniven A1. Did I dun good?

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>>893487
I was thinking about getting this one, instead I got this one, did I do good too guys?

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>>865490
Welcome to the Alt-Right's dwarf-headed FAS fitness minister. "The Golden One".

>>860079
Anyone ever used a Helko Axe? They are beautiful and have some good prices for Made in Germany and "The German's always make good stuff" - Shamwow Vince

>>874944
Any where worth going does.

/k/