What do you guys think of the Scouting Movement?

Good intentions
But i didnt enjoy it.

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>>834756
Got started as a Tiger, stuck with it through Eagle.

Learned a lot along the way... outdoors obviously, but also business, life, career, friendships, people, etc.

Not really one of those things I go around telling people, but when the topic comes up and someone finds out I'm an Eagle, it's typically "Cool, I didn't know that." Turns out two other coworkers are Eagles as well.

There's good troops and bad troops. Fortunately I was in a good one. Know a bunch of guys that tried it and went with not-so-good troops, and didn't stick with it long.

Cub scouts was run by the den mothers.... so arts and crafts was a big part of that, with the occasional "camping" trip (local YMCA or something, *maybe* a state park/campground).
Boy scouts was generally scout-ran, with adult guidance.
>Let's do Philmont!
>but you need money
>Let's do a fundraiser!
>okay, here's some options
>Let's do this one, here's how it's gonna happen
>made it happen
>did Philmont
>was awesome

>lol early-2000's digital cameras
>pic related, from my eagle project

>>834756

Not much. Organized pedophilia should remain with religious organizations.

Gay

>>834789
>Implying it's not a religious organization of sturdy, glistening, god-fearing bois

>>834756
My father put me through it since he didnt finish to eagle. Started at cub scouts and had loads of fun.
Then boy scouts got really sad for me since all the other boys avoided me (being an introvert and all that didnt help much more) but I pushed through to star scout and then dropped out because to progress I would have to take a leadership role and I dislike being a leader of rowdy kids. My excuse was because I had church on the same day/time as our weekly meetings.
I honestly now regret leaving since the most fun I had was on camping trips up in the Sierras and Joshua Tree.
Too bad Im too old to rejoin again and finish it out. Look back on my old handbook from time to time and chuckle at the early 2000 stock pics and to brush up on medical info here and there.

>>834756
Pussy namby-pamby stuff. Where is the hunting badge? Field dress badge?

The scouts are good intentioned but a scout won't survive without a father showing how to really do the stuff that matters. It's not a substitute for a father.

>>834756
Its good but at the unit level the quality of the program can range from excellent to garbage. What a kid can get out of it is largely down to how good the adults in charge of the unit are. I've work resident camps for the past 6 summers and the difference in how the units are run and what the kids get to experience varies so much that the only thing the units really have in common is the uniform. I'm eternally glad that I had a good unit. Scouting allowed me to in no particular order do shit like:
Go Rock Climbing
Go backpacking in the middle of the desert with no trails and only a map and compass to navigate cross country
Go on a high ropes course. (And later become certified to run High Ropes course programs)
Go shooting
Fly a plane
Go Scuba diving
Tour a US Super Carrier, Amphibious assault ship and submarine.
Tour a nuclear power plant


Who here Eagle sc/out/?
8/16/2010 OCC

Yeah, IDK, I started as a tiger scout, but I didn't really stick around past webelos. I imagine for some kids it was pretty great, but part of the problem for me was just that I didn't really like a lot of the kids in my troop so it wasn't really as fun as just going out in the woods by myself, and we actually didn't do a lot of /out/ type stuff in my troop, which focused more on community service. So I was hoping we'd do things like learn how to camp, start fires, identify trees and shit, but whenever we went in the woods, we would be picking up trash (which is not a bad thing, but pretty boring after a while for a 3rd grader). We went "camping" a few times, but being an elementary schooler, all of the "dangerous" camp-type stuff was left to the adults, and the cub scouts just kind of would wander around the campground (which was more of a glorified parking lot). I suppose if I stuck around we would have started to do the things I wanted, but I was kind of just over it. It may have just been my troop, but that was how the experience was for me so I don't really have a favorable view of scouting.

It's shit, almost every scout group is shit too. Every time they come to a park they're the ones who leave the biggest amounts of trash and destruction. It's like latinos except without any fear of authority figures.

I didn't need anyone else to start fires, I was out on the sidewalk lighting leaves and stuff all the time.

My father did the Eagle Scouts before he joined the Army then went SF. He signed me and my brother up read through the hand book then quickly took us out and that was in 95. I can only guess how chill it is now. He ended up taking us camping for sometimes two weeks at a time when he was home.

I remember one time he told us if building a bird house could save your life he would have a government issued bird house building manual. He then taught us how to clean and maintain fishing gear.

Fantastic. Great fun.
Learned plenty of skills and did tonnes of outdoors stuff that I otherwise wouldn't have been able to do.
I go to meet all sorts of people and even go overseas because of Scouts.

>>834756
The idea is good, but the implementation sucks. The teachers are shit, the administration is shit and the stuff they learn is shit.

>>834756
>Scouting
Cult.

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Although I was only in for a couple of years as a kid it give a sense of pride looking back at it and it gave good practical skills for hiking and camping.

Good leaders are definitely important. We had basically two leaders. One a bit older, well liked and respected (calm, strikt and fair) and the other one a cunt (short temper) that most, if not all, disliked.

>>834756
>Scouting Movement

Considering I've never heard of it outside of this thread, not much.

>>834756
>Scouting Movement
Isn't this a NAMBLA type thing?

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>>834756
>Scouting Movement

Is there in political agenda behind them in the US?
In europe the scout movement always has been a kind of training camp for the kids of the reactionaries. Working class people have their own version of it called the red falcons, who do exactly the same, but with socialist agenda.

Was in Scouting in Canada for 9 years. Our group was excellent. our leaders were great in the beginning but the last two years the leaders were useless so most of us quit. to this day I use tons of the skills we learned. we also did firearm training every year. also learned how to set up small game and fish traps. I heard the leaders now treat it like a day camp and the kids don't learn much or mature.

>>834985
in the US it's basically a politically conservative organization. gays are discriminated against, blacks and other minorities don't signup in droves, you have to pledge an oath to God (with a capital G) and country, the meetings and ceremonies are always at Churches and other Catholic Institutions, etc.

Plus it's lame as fuck.

Scouting in america sounds so different to here in the uk. Tbh all i temember of ventures was hikes and getting wasted - if you got caught youd wesr another units necker

>>835043
>in the US it's basically a politically conservative organization.
Many people in it are politically conservative, but that's hardly an organization wide thing.
>gays are discriminated against
Not anymore. At least officially. Probably some dickhead Mormon troops out there who are still doing it though.
>blacks and other minorities don't signup in droves,
That's very region dependent. There's a lot of troops where I am that are made up entirely of minority groups. Usually they're some of the cooler troops.

>you have to pledge an oath to God (with a capital G) and country,
That's a cermony thing. The only actual religious requirement is to "believe in a higher power". Literally the only incorrect answer is not believing in god, you can claim to worship the flying spaghetti monster and there's not a thing they can do.

>meetings and ceremonies are always at Churches and other Catholic Institutions, etc.
While most charter organizations are churches, there are plenty of non-religious organization like f Rotary Clubs that sponsor troops. Also half the time the charter organization just provides the meeting place. In my troop of 40-50 kids I think maybe 2 or 3 of them attended the church we met at.

>Plus it's lame as fuck.
It's really not if you get a good troop.

>>835058
The only answers that aren't cop outs are the first two and the last one

>>834756
I was wirh a bunch of fucking mormons and wanted to beat the shit out of at least 8 of them. Complete pussies, dad's were like personal babysitters, they had fucking patio heaters between tents. Glad I gtfo and spent the rest of my childhood doing my own shit.

>>834756
I'm better by default because I browse /out/. Haven't been innawoods tho.

My troop leader killed a hooker. Not even shitposting. I never made it to high school levels etc obviously. If it was meant to fill the gap of nondad it didn't. But I can see why some people like it. And then there was a trail of men in adjacent schools/sponsoring schools or whatever getting caught buying hookers and one molesting elementary students at a "prestigious christian school"

>>835660
Story tiem.

>>834789
>>834797
Anti-social haters AND fedora wearing militant-atheists. Who would have thought those two things have something in common.

>>834789
E D G Y

Parents never put me through it, looking back on it I regret not asking them to.

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>>835058
>Literally the only incorrect answer is not believing in god


That leaves out huge numbers of people.
In Los Alamos NM where I grew up, everyone's dad was some sort of scientist. No one believed in god in my school. Guess thats why I never remember anyone being a scout.

My troop was awesome up until my scoutmaster quit. I was just starting into my Eagle, new scoutmaster was such a cocksucker I walked away from it without a backwards glance.

>>834756
I used to read stories on the gay section of nifty on what would happen during jamboree and WOW.

>>834765
Pretty much the same as this guy. My dad could have taught me everything scouts did. Other people may have learned more from it than I did.

>>834756
I hope they use condoms.

>>834977
no it's mormon/christian indoctrination

>>834784
I wish I had access to a good troop back then.

Mine was terrible. Dad wanted me to do it because he thought it would be good to get survival skills, and build character.

My troop was full of the shittiest kids man. Fuckers would get dumped there by their parents, so that the scout leaders could watch them while they went off and smoked method or something. They never bought uniforms for them or anything. The scouts were all either autistic or scum of the earth shit bags.

I guess that's small town Indiana for you.

I made it to Star before I quit and did Civil Air Patrol. So much better, but there are shit units in that organization as well.

>>836180
are you me?

I'm an Eagle Scout. I thought it was stupid and easy and didn't appreciate the conservative social indoctrination. I'd rather just go camping.

>>834784
Same here, started when I was six, finished when I was eighteen.

I think it's awesome. I was raised by a single mom and rarely saw my betamax nu-male father so it was pretty much my only opportunity to get out of the house and be exposed to masculine role models.

I learned a lot about how to be an adult and got tons of experience with real leadership that I'm still thankful for.

>that great feeling when you can organize dozens of people to get things done your way and virtually no one questions you

>>834808
Shit OCC? Me too, what district?

>>839134
but they act like it's not true.

>>839134
>gays are discriminated against, blacks and other minorities don't signup in droves
Making America Great again, that's also with a capital G

>>834756
I like the idea of kids learning to be self sufficient and scouting and such.

However most that I've met have been unbearable faggot nerds.

>>838993
>CAP
You had a good experience with CAP? My squadron was the cliquiest shit. In order to promote you and both your parents had to lick about 8 boots each. Made it to staff sergeant before I gave up on progressing further. The only thing we ever did outside of the minotony of regular weekly meetings was a 3-day fundraiser.

>>834799
In Germany ther are grobs alsow for older peopel

>>834756
>movement
im pretty sure its dead in the water.

>>834953
Wtf is that gay shit? Is that the law and oath now??

On my honor, I will do my best
To God and my country
To obey the scout law
To keep myself physically fit, mentally awake, and morally straight.

>ftfy

>>834756
Great place to meet hot young singles

It used to be God tier, but it's been cucked. It's a shame, I'm an Eagle Scout and I really enjoyed it

>>841079
>>834953
Of course they had to change it

>>835905
I honestly can't name any of my childhood friends who weren't Christians. Different places I guess

>>834917
Not at all senpai

Tried it as a kid. I guess it's different in the UK because all we did was play football and do some gay teamwork shit. No real outdoor stuff. Got bored and taught other kids how to light fires and shit then I got kicked out because apparently that's dangerous.

Is there any shit like this for college kids? I'm 21 in uni but can't seem to find anything like it

I joined my uni's adventure club but they rarely go out

>>834756
In my cub scouts we had a woman leader and we just did arts and crafts and learned nothing

Don't know who thought this was an okay idea

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>>834784
This is exactly what happened with me. I'm glad I was in a good troop the for my entire scouting years. Literally just run by the scouts parents including my own, which was nice because whenever there would be a campout, it was just good bonding time with me and my pop. And honestly, I really miss how easy everything was back then. Just go to school and every Wednesday night go to Scouts, then once or twice a month go camping for a weekend. Now I have to schedule everything around work and I barely ever get out in the wilderness anymore. I miss the good old days guys.

>>834756
>Take something people will do instinctively, like being in nature
>Combine it with hierarchical militaristic conformity
>Call it a tradition

For a self regulating population of gamma soldiers.

You are now aware that the scout movement is entirely carried by Christian church institutions to indoctrinate the next generation.

>>841424
>the scout movement is entirely carried by Christian church institutions to indoctrinate the next generation.
Maybe in the USofGAY

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>>834985
There's a worker movement relic called the Naturfreunde. They mostly do youth camps. Their agenda is social skills and healthy living. No badges or uniforms, just people. The skills they endorse include climbing, canoeing, camping, it's mostly babby's first pocket knife.

>>841426
My personal experience comes from Europe.

Try booking a group camp site in the summer without a bible quote dogwhistle. Good luck.

>>841424
I grew up with scouting and I could give a rats ass about the church. I did it to get closer to nature and to have fun camping with friends

>>841430
I went to cubs and all we did was Macramé and pasta art in a church community center under supervision of the junior cleric. I had my parents look for alternatives and the only option was to leave the protestant group and join the catholic one.

>>841429
I dunno man, here in Australia, Scouts whilst officially 'spiritual' was pretty secular in practice and I never experienced any contact with a church whilst I did it.

>>841430
>rats ass about the church
This guy gets it and probably had good leaders. I honestly don't remember any reference to god or religion other than the oath and the fact we met in a church's basement. We camped, canoed, hiked, did service projects. It was a blast and I learned a shitton.

>>841470
Awesome!

There's a scout troupe with an oath to Allah who meets in a mosque basement. Is your son attending?

>>841478
>Is your son attending?
Why, is your son looking for a friend?

Used to be good until they went all political. Now they have to let girls in and there is only so much they can do because of risk of being sued.

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Order of the Arrow master race in the house. Some Scout units are based - some not. Quality of your scouting experience starts with the quality of the troop leadership. I was fortunate and had excellent leaders.

>>841513
Are you afraid of women?

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Girl scout leader in europe here.
I love hanging /out/ with the kids and teaching them life skills and shit.

Eagle here

Best outing I've had with the scouts was a tie between an 80 mile river canoe trip or ocean kayaking camping on a new island each night.

Also Jambo 2005 and NOAC 2006

>>841975
This is very true, I got lucky. It takes just one bad leader or fellow scout to turn a new kid off forever. Even a boring meeting or a shitty outing will make a kid hate everything about it.

>>841141
Volunteer as a leader and make your troop as great as you can imagine it to be.

I plan on doing this as soon as I'm through with college and settle into a life.

>>834756
I went to the first meeting and my parents learned they would be involved. I did not go to another meeting. I'm not totally bitter. My dad was not an outdoorsman at all, and he probably knew there would be a competitiveness factor from the other parents or some bullshit like that (there was a lot of that kind of stupidity in the area).
I still wish I had been able to do it. My grandad was a park ranger and avid outdoors man beyond that, so getting to go on trips with him was almost certainly better than anything the Scouts had to offer. I did not get to go on trips with him often, but I remember all of them vividly.

>blogpost edit out:
Wanted to do it, better things exist.

>>838993
holy shit identical experience to mine and i'm also from a small town in Indiana...Jerimiah is that you?

>>841513
The one thing I don't get about the situation is that Scouts is mixed gender and yet girl guides is still a thing.

I did it while living in eastern Long Island and it sucked.

Anyone here ever do a outward bound trip?

>>846662
>outward bound
Isn't that the program for juvenile criminals?

>>841143
Economic and educational differences are the biggest factors.

>>843269
Do you suck off those hot shotas and teach them what it feels like inside a woman?

>>839134

>hurr durr one form of brainwashing is better than another

swallow acid :D

>>846986

>he thinks girl scout leaders can lead boys

wtf is wrong with you

if anything is going down it's going to be some sweeet sisterly rug munching

>>846662
Yeah, pretty good. I was surrounded by so many useless fucks though.

I love it. I'm an eagle and my sons will be eagles.

The only thing that bothers me is the ostratization of gay men. My husband and I are gay, but we are men. We love the outdoors and we have a healthy lifestyle. We are not the club sluts that the media and the liberal pop culture loves.

Makes me sick.

The scouts produce quality men.

>>846999
>He thinks cub scouts are boy scouts

Scouts has gone downhill since they went full NAMBLA

>>836412
i went to the nat'l jamboree a number of years ago and it was gay as fuck. lots of weird stuff going on. a lot of kids from the south tried to steal patches constantly.

>>834756
Heretics who deserted the original Boys Brigade

Brtibong here
I did the Army Cadets, the only other option was a thing called the Brownies (More inline with USA Scouts I think).

It was pretty shit. Lots of kids confused the idea of being a higher rank with "Scream at literally everyone and be an utter cunt to anyone who isn't the same rank or higher than you".

>>834756
is that the christian semi militant shit heavily infused with pedophilia scouts or the other?

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Who here NESA?

>>847038
German scout here. I wasn't aware that this is an actual issue in scout organizations. The consensus here that discrimination in any way is a no-go. Scouts aren't supposed to be an organization of religious nutbags or conservatives. In fact, the group I'm part of is pretty much apolitical.

>>848020
It's not really.More the opposite.

Non gay or tranny boy scouts are ostracized and shamed until they give in or quit.

>>848020
>>848020
The Wandervogel was staunchly conservative moron, learn your history before spouting off nonsense the media told you

>>834756
It's a great program, definitely putting any kids I might have in it

>>835043
The conservative part is right, and I like that shit. Idk what you're talking about minorities not signing up though, we never had a problem with that here

>>847038
>The only thing that bothers me is the ostratization of gay men. My husband and I are gay, but we are men. We love the outdoors and we have a healthy lifestyle. We are not the club sluts that the media and the liberal pop culture loves.

If you're a gay man then either you or your husband should have experienced enough to realize that many gays believe Age of Consent is basically a rule for Breeders and that no harm is done when a man has sex with underage boys.
There is definitely an observable trend among gays where they first had sex when they were quite young, even younger than 13, and feel it did them no harm and was even beneficial.
If they believe this then how far are they from buggering 12 year olds in their adulthood if they decide the kids is up for it?
Two "celebrity" examples of what I'm talking about would be Milo Yiannopoulos and Justicar (on youtube).

When put under a magnifying glass you will see something rather interesting about pedophilia in the Catholic Church.
*Almost all of the pedos were active homosexuals.
*Almost all of the victims were pubescent boys, not prepubescent.

A blanket ban on homosexuals is very prudent at least until such time as we can say homosexuals adopt and internalize the sexual norms of heterosexuals.

>>850660
>A blanket ban on homosexuals is very prudent at least until such time as we can say homosexuals adopt and internalize the sexual norms of heterosexuals.

i kekked anon same line could be used for so man things: islam, smokers, niggers, gypsies whatever you want.

i think in principle discrimination is bad especially when legally enforced, but you can't expect people to throw in their young kid to camp with a bunch of homos in the woods away from civilization. trying to ban homosexuals from anything is a waste of effort btw. there were always gays everywhere even when they burned them at stake for buggery. so i'm guessing this ban is all about putting the minds of soccer moms at rest.

>>841978
you're the type of fuccboi who invites a bitch to "guys night out"

>>848020
In the US, scouts are basically controlled by the Mormon church. Since they heavily encourage membership, it's the single organization with the biggest stake in scouts, and it gets them a lot of say.

>>852141
Yes but troops are changing that on an individual basis. You must believe in god in some form or whatever by bsa standards but if your troop doesn't care then kids are fine.

>>841975
OoA Hiawatha District here. I still have my sash and badges and everything even years later

>>834809
Speaking of Webelows, who decided that'd be a good name for a group of young boys?

Overall good experience, can be shit if your troop's inactive or full of literal weirdos and autists.

Working as a camp counselor and camp admin, the worst of it are adult leaders. A lot are great, but many are power hungry twats and had very little patience.

I have a few stories if there's any interest.

>>852538
sure

>>852241
It's an acronym for "We'll be loyal Scouts" or something. But yeah, it sounds kinda corny.

>>852701
>>852241
We below a scout. Neophytes.

I don't know anything about this movement but it looks like it is kind of militarized with the uniforms, badges, trooping stuff.

that reminds me too much of hitlerjugend which fucked with the minds of a whole generation.

i think its cool that they go out and learn a lot but it would be nicer in a civilian, unorganized way.

I better like summer camps.

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My experience in the Scouts was pretty shite.
Despite being in a rural part of South West Scotland, a stones throw away from the Southern Uplands, we never actually went out. The scout leader was just some guy who liked to talk about going hiking but never did.Mostly it was sitting in an old asbestos hut doing knots for 3 hours.The most exciting trip was going up to the local woodlands next to the village, something I did just about every day as a child anyway.

The Scout Leader was pretty friendly with my Dad and we all ended up going for a walk in Galloway one January. A blizzard blew in so scout leader decided to show us a route he'd taken before to get us into a valley and out of the worst of it. He forgot to mention the valley was a vast sphagnum bog. I hate that guy.

It seems to vary a hell of a lot depending on the troop you were in.
I was lucky because mine was fairly small and we didn't really worry about the more ritual and formal stuff.

But I've heard some real horror stories.

Went for a couple of months. There were rumors that the adult in charge of the group was into boys. One day he invited me over to his place to watch the playboy channel and drink beer (I was 13). Never went again after that. Now I'm a normal adult, I've been in a long term relationship with a female who's the same age as me and I'm not into boys xD. If I was to see this man again I would punch him in the face for being a cunt.
I also had enjoyable moments while being into the boyscouts.

>>853288
>and I'm not into boys xD
Who are you trying to convince champ? Us or yourself?

>>834784
Same here.

Tiger to eagle . OA vigil

My Eagle project was 10,000 man hours. ( we built a out door class room at a local school) my troop wasn't mormon so we did big projects .

Some other eagle projects, we built 4 houses ( habitat for humanity) built a playground , built a park.

We did Philmont every year. Snow camped, did a 50 mile anual bike ride through death Valley , did primitive camping, backpacked the most of the western national parks

I learned how to shoot, fly an airplane,sail, ski, climb, ride horses, first aid ( which we used all the time on other hikers, I remember saving a guy in Utah after he fell , free climbing, broke his legs and arms in the fall, his climbing partner was a 120lb woman. We splinted him, put a cervical brace on him ( 3 of our leaders were doctors and always had medical bags) and hiked out on a makeshift back board for 8 miles until we could get a cell signal, then an additional 2 miles to the ambulance. )

Hell I even lost my virginity in the scouts, at summer camp to an Australian girl.

>>853330

Another Tiger > Eagle here.

>>834756

Britbong here, first time posting on /out/

Loved cubs, boys scouts and scouts. Gave it up because I was moved to an older troop (explorers) and didn't know anybody so gave it up. I think how much you enjoy it really depends upon the leaders running it.

>>835905
Fuck yeah LANL
Can you get me a job there?

>>853330
>lost my virginity
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>852703
kill yourself, faggot.

Made it to "life" scout. Could not be bothered sith the family life, personal finance or personal fitness merit badge. Liked all the trips though. Being a venture scout would have been cool. Still go camping with friends who all made eagle to this day. They call me an "honorary eagle"

>>853288
This reeks of bullshit

>>835839
>militant-atheists
You, friend, are the reason I keep coming back.


>>834808
>Go shooting
So, what's offered above a regular US schooling experience?
I considered joining, but was deterred by the whole religious aspect, which basically gave me the vibe that this organization was saying that you can't be a good person without spouting some delusion of how there's some personal God out there in the world. I don't subscribe to pseudoscience, quackery, and the degradation of humanity and its ability to follow morality without succumbing to fear of an imaginary boogieman.


>>835905
Thanks guys. You prevented WWIII, at the time.

>>834985
The Scouting Movement, such as it is, actually got kicked off the the UK with Robert Baden-Powell's Aid to Scouting, which was mostly military in nature and not strictly intended for boy in 1899. In 1908 he published Scouting for Boys which omitted much of the military origins and focused more on the survival skills and heroes.

All the unnecessary fluff came later.

Impressed by all the fellow eagles in here.

I think scouting is great and if I was ever going to have kids, I'd be pretty happy if they showed interest in it.

My actual story of being in scouts is pretty fucking lame though. Raised in southern US to a very christian family. Started having tranny feelings around age four and once I got older I became near obsessed with church, scouting, and JROTC in high school because I thought that being a exemplary, proper God-fearing man was going to make those feelings go away. Basically ensured that I was the most generically boring cliche super boy scout imaginable.

Dutch scout here, joined when i was 5 years old, left when i was 11 years old and recently rejoined.
I love it, still know a lot of people from the wolf scouts. But it's more a youth club/beer drinking here when you get older.
It's also not a religious organisation here, we're very tolerant (soft drugs, smoking, drinking under legal age etc.) heck we even have a gay leader.

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>>855887
other dutchman here
Scouting in high school was for autismo's who couldn't make friends. and while tolerant for drugs and alcohol use it still didn't make you cool
don't ever make your kids go through with it, even if they want to. Glad I quit when I was 8.
I'd rather see my kids drink and do softdrugs with snobby kids ('kakkers') than dirty scouting future NEETs

>>834795
Jelly?

>>855948
Sounds like you had a shitty group then :^)
My group
consists of normal middle class people, and some even study at university.
All the autists at my scouting left when they were wolf scouts (quite sad actually because they were nice and intelligent guys).

The thing with my scouts group is, it's in the middle of the neighborhood, and it's the only youth club in the area.
Most people joined when they were little and have grown up with it because either one of their parents lived in the neighborhood and was a scout. Most peoole already knew each other from school etc. It's a really close-nit group.

>>834789
This.
Seriously though. Scouts was pretty bullshit here. More praying and stuff than actual /out/ stuff.
Sad really. They could be a good organization.

>>856212
>Praying
I recall the only time we prayed at scouting events was during the occasional service we would have at camp if ever, and before eating sometimes depending on the group.
Scouting is what you make of it. Retarded kids who didn't set themselves up to go out never would.

>>856212

>implying that prayer is bad
>implying that Scouts is only about /out/ stuff

The outdoors are a huge component, but if that's all you're looking for, you don't need to be in Scouting for that. If you're looking to be well-rounded in many ways, including spiritually, Scouting is a fantastic program. The problem is when people who aren't well-rounded lead a group of young boys to be complacent.

Was a Scandinavian Blue Scout for 8 years. Basically it was just heading innawoods, build fires, build shelters, survive in crappy and cold weather, and learn how to handle and use sharp tools. It laid the foundation for my /out/ lifestyle. No political bullshit or kiddy fiddlers. From age 16 it'd basically just be you and others your age in a troop, so we'd go on long hikes and get fucking wasted on cheap vodka.

I miss it, but I'd have to be a leader if I were to join again, and I don't want to deal with dickass kids.

>>856386
>implying prayer is anything but bad
>implying christianity=spirituality

>>856448

We'll have to disagree about prayer. And spirituality means many things but for me, it'll always stem from God.

>going out in the woods
>surrounded by tight butt white boy butts
>whats not to enjoy

just watch les stroud and do 4-H and grow up to not be a pussy

i did it and didn't learn shit. when they started wanting me to do weird camps that cost money and u gotta travel and jump in a freezing lake and it started getting all in-crowd and shit i left

parents were faggots and also didnt teach me shit. i just googled some shit, bought some shit off amazon, went to the forest. wow magic, im not a faggot now.

>>834756
I was in it cub scouts though eagle, I was fortunate enough to get an awesome troop. It was pretty small, and we where almost all atheists. It was actually really weird hanging out with other troops because of the heavy religious vibe. Nothing against people believing whatever they want to believe, but scouting would be a better place without religion in its doctrine.

>>856448
"spirituality"<christianity desu
all of the superstition and none of the society improving values and traditions

>>847105
oi oi oi

>>834756
My master said our troop was a "boy ran program".

So yea nothing ever happened.

>>846986
You are confused.
I'm a male scout leader.
My scouts are girls.
We teach them real skills, none of that inane US girl guide shit.

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>>834756
>What do you guys think of the Scouting Movement?
bunch of slack jawed faggots...

>>834756
Had a great time as a kid, but then it got taken over by a cult of Christianity when I was 14 and my friends and basically every other previous family left

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Order of the Arrow is a way better scouting organization than actual scouts. Anyone else in the OA?

Eagle/OA here. Scours was mostly fun..learned a ton of stuff while i was there. Quit after i made eagle..the kids didnt respect me nor did the adults..so i mostly just stood around bord as hell. The whole organisation went to shit after i left

>>853330
>>834808

>reading all this stuff

In the meantime the most exciting thing I've done over 5 years of scouting was digging latrines, setting up 10 man tents, carrying shit all day every day and occasionally being yelled at. Ironically my scouting experience spoiled my military career plans as I assumed it's going to be more of the same. Such is the life in slavland I guess.

The social aspect was great and I met some good people, but I didn't learn a single thing.

I still use the knots i learned everyday.

but honestly, when you're 17 and have to deal with 13 year olds, it gets really annoying and hard to stick with the program.

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>>834756
no offense to anyone who is or has been in scouts but i can and will out-hike each and every one of you with ease.

>>841420
Me too, anon. Me too.

>>843584
I want to volunteer, too.
I dropped out of scouts after my mother's death. Never made it past first class but had been in it from the time I was a cub to 16. Now looking back on it I wish I had stuck to it. I really want to volunteer at a local troop but being unmarried, not having any kids, and not attending a church in afraid I'll be viewed as a potential pedo.

>>865484
If you're still under 21 you can try and find a venture crew.

>>843584
>Volunteer as a leader and make your troop as great as you can imagine it to be.
>Get sued for breaking contract by teaching the kids something deemed "too dangerous"

Eagle Scout here. Dont remember troop number much less group or whatever.

Pretty much hating scouting 95% of the time. Why did they have to make it so embarrassing?