Bear baiting interfering with coyote/Fox trapping?

>>834107
Put up warning signs in all the parking areas and within range of the traps that there are coyote traps that could potentially injure hunting dogs.

Mark the traps well for humans to see.

>>834107
If one of the hunting dogs bites your face off, oh well, it's not your land, it's owned by your road association. You are a dick just by virtue of trapping. I'm a hunter but trapping is a slow painful death for the animal. We're not living in 1700

>>834349
this

>>834349
/thread
Fuck you and your traps OP.
Only reason to trap these days is if you're in some kind of survival situation. Use a firearm or bow like a normal person

>>834349
seconding this

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>>834458
ITT: PETA troll samefags thread to show that she has no clue about how modern traps work.

>>834349
Foot traps are specifically made to target a certain sized animal and rarely break skin or bone Conibear traps break the neck or skin instantly. Fuck off.

>>834458
Tell me PETA fag how much money have you given to conservation efforts? My hunting, fishing and trapping tags all contribute to conservation efforts that preserve wild spaces and wetlands. Get fucked yuppie faggot

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>>834701
>that one mad redneck mad that people have evolved past the 1800s

>>834704
Mad as in sick in the head? I think you mean angry, which this redneck knows the difference from mad. But you wouldn't, yuppie chuckle fuck.

>>834720
>calls himself a redneck
>doesn't understand what informal english is

lmao

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>>834272
OP DO NOT listen to this guy. Your traps will end up stolen.
>>834349
True b8, ever hear of BMP studies? Ever hear of a conibear?
>>834400
Go back to Cali and kys, trapping was one of the first things man did in the field of engineering and will be around much longer
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That trap that's on the guy's leg, look at the springs, not even pushing up on the jaws. Thanks for the b8
>>834458
Tell me, which one is more natural, clearing land, setting up oil fields, destroying habitat for wild animals, pumping the oil and end up processing it at another facility and eventually coming up with synthetic material that will not deteriorate for some time. Or a guy trapping fur, putting it up and shipping it off to be tanned/made into a garment for warmth. Man has been wearing fur for thousands and thousands of years, it isn't going anywhere.

My trapping association builds hundreds of nest boxes to aid in building pine marten populations, what do you do for conservation? Shitpost on /out/?
>>834107
OP, best of luck to you this season, may your traps be full.

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>>834704
haha nice retort, would you like to posit an actual argument now?

>>834881
>wearing leather shoes and belts
>self righteous bullshit about fur

>>834272
Thanks moron who wants my stuff stolen.
>>834349
Road association land is owned by the members, i.e me idiot. It exists as common hunting and trapping land.

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>>834912
Who gives a fuck what some animal rights nut thinks? You people know nothing about game management, population control or anything to do with the outdoors. Not only are your people absurdly uneducated about actual science you get laughed off by the 95% of humanity that does use animal products.

You eat anything with flavor in it, wear perfume or any kind of makeup? Every one of those uses trapping products. I'd say you are a hypocrite but most vegans are ugly and smell like shit so probably not.

>>835286
stop bumping your shit thread faggot

>>835288
the petafag did a great job getting it to the top

Ever have artificial strawberry flavor? Congrats, you likely have consumed beaver castor which was obtained by trapping. It is used because you will not find anybody that is allergic to it.

>>834693
Yes, because a PETA troll hunts as is clearly stated in the post. I think you need to revisit reading comprehension

>>834699
Foot traps leave the animal to suffer. It doesn't matter if it break skin or bone. How about you put your foot in a vice and tighten it down to the point that you can't escape then either starve or freeze to death? That seems very sporting

>>834959
most (99.99%) leather comes from farm raised and domesticated animals that are instantaneously killed by a bolt gun rather than left to suffer

>>835286
so you're a member of the road association yet have no respect for the other members. you sound like a solid, stand-up guy with many people that have likewise respect for you

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>>835286
The problem with trappers is they're motivated by only one thing CASH. With the possible exception of beavers, furbearers don't need population control, their numbers are always in balance. Every trapper I've ever meet is a loser who can't hold down a regular job and wants unreported income. They carry garnishments and back-support that make normal employment unprofitable. I see no reason that nature should pay the cost of supporting these lowlifes

Your collection of radicalized memes has completely changed my position in a way a real argument never could.

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>>835616
I trap and have never sold anything. >>835600
Traps are typically checked everyday. Most times early in the morning. Majority of fur bearers are nocturnal so they don't spend that long inna trap.

>>835616
>Don't need population control
Even if this were true and people didn't trap because of it all these fur bearers would still probably die. Why? Because the number one cause of death is automobiles for these animals. I just see it as I'm saving them from getting hit by a car and being wasted to rot away in the sun on the side of the road.

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>>834911
>Protest fur
>Leather shoes.

>>834458
This

>>835616
This

>>835600
this

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This one anti trapper is persistent.

>>836110
This

>>835600
Starve to death? How long are you waiting to check traps? Majority of states require a 24 hour check on sets that would leave the animal alive.
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>>836009
Redditfag detected, learn to contribute to a post. "This" does nothing, literally nothing to contribute to a post. You don't supply anything to help backup a post, just go "this"
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>>836017
Stop bumping, contribute

>>835616
I've met hundreds if not thousands of trappers, your post is far from the truth. If they were so motivated by money, why are they still trapping in the current fur market? They all are losing lots of money.

Trapping is one of the oldest trades known to man, it is one of the most /out/ activities and it's a shame that redditfags have to ruin everything. This is the 5th or 6th post on trapping I've seen on this board and it's flooded with memes and macros with poor arguments against it. Can't wait for the next post, only going to be more reddit fags. Time to make an /out/ board on &_chan

>>836215
this

>>836257
Vandalism, imagine I think people shouldn't cut down trees so I burn down your house. How would you feel?

It's rare that you get to see a mentally ill person have a meltdown in real time.

>>836313
>Humans aren't animals
God, you're pathetic.

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>>836316
this

>>835604
You mean "Are raised in captivity and factory farmed for their skin"

Haha and you're fine with that. How's that higher moral ground going faggot?

>>836375
this

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that

>>836387
paddy-whack

>>836389
give a dog a bone

>>835775
>changed my position
my life's work is complete

>>836287
start another thread, I've got a couple thousand more images to post

>>836395
this

>>836396
that

>>836262
I'd feel like a fag... is that how you feel?

>>836401
this

>>836215
I don't trap therefore I had no need to check traps. I worked with a hillbilly technician that used to give too much information about his trapping excursions. He checked them only on the weekends; i.e. 168 hours hence causing suffering. Trappers are heartless trash

>>836262
If I lived in a society that revered trees to that extent then I would understand that it was I who transgressed. The vast majority of people are against trapping and the more they learn about it the less they support it. You don't care cause it's traditional, so is raping and pillaging neighboring people. Society has moved on. I abide by the norms of the society that exists today you don't cause you're a sub-human piece of shit. What part of that flies over your head like a 7 fucking 47?

>>836395
What's funny is you never express these views in person. You sit quietly, raging, imagining what you would say if you only had the testosterone to say it. I think there's a school shooting with your name on it.

>>834107
>attempt to snare a bear and spear it.
Faggot.

>>835782
>modern traps are ethical!
>that circular patch of bare dirt, that terrified facial expression

>>834107
"In his 1933 book Game Management, Aldo Leopold, one of the pioneers of wildlife management as a science, defined it as "the art of making land produce sustained annual crops of wild game for recreational use"."

Yup, this is basically the extent to which rednecks care about wildlife and wildlife management. Deer, coyotes, beaver, these species are valid targets of population control, but what the redneck really cares about is bloodlust. He will kill any small furbearing animal, and what is his reasoning? "To protect muh pheasants and wabbits!" But what is he really trying to protect? Just another form of bloodlust recreation. He wants high wabbit and game birds species so that he has more small animals to kill, not because it is ecologically necessary. He wants more pictures of terrified animals caught in traps to masturbate to similar to a serial killer photographing his victims. OP says he wants to spear a bear, this is illegal and psychopathic, then he expects us to believe the rest of the foul sophistry he spews.

>>836781
>burn circle
You expect the animal to not try to escape? It's pretty obvious to haven't spent much time around wild animals.

>facial expression of a fox
Mysides

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>>835616
>Every trapper I've ever meet is a loser who can't hold down a regular job and wants unreported income.

You all must live in a cubicle like me and only hunt 1 once a year for a week.

That is how life is supposed to live.

The only people that can make money of animals are farmers not hunters.

t. petafag

>>837273
Yeah fur trapping hasn't been profitable for over a decade.

>>837278
Then why are people still doing it?

>>837279
Muskrat and Beaver taste delicious and they make cool hats. There's not really any other way of getting them and I understand that you disagree with 'getting them' at all, but I don't think anybody really cares honestly. It's just not significant or prevalent enough to be an issue with any momentum.

>>836797
There is absolutely nothing wrong with enjoying hunting. There is everything wrong with condemning someone because you disagree with something basic as hunting. Are you a vegan? Because if you aren't the thousands of animals I've killed had a fair chance, unlike those from factory farming in those chicken nuggets you love so much.

>>837278
HA BULLSHIT, 4 years ago people were making BANK. One guy caught a thousand fox in 50 days at a 60+dollar average. Several people caught 1,000+coon at a 30+dollar average plus all the mink and rats they caught. Some were catching 300+ marten at a 150+ average. "No money in the past decade" haven't laughed my ass off that hard in a while. The ONLY thing thing people will still have a chance of making money at is muskrats but very few will do it, very, very few.

>>837279
Why do people still hunt after market hunting was banned? Why do people fish for fun if they aren't making money?

>>836554
Wow, you met one guy out of hundreds of thousands that is unethical, they must all be unethical. You're one anti, out of hundreds of thousands, and you make a blanket statement off of experience with one individual, I suppose all antis are as stupid as you.

>>837523
Problem with this statement is its scewed by those up north that have animals with higher fur quality and density. It should also be noted just because some sells something at some perceived high price that isn't all profit. Fuel, lures, depreciation, and baits all cost money. Lets not forget about thw time it takes to find a good place to set, checking and maintaining the trap line, then skinning and fleshing after a catch. I wish coons around here were worth $30. I've heard some going that high, but these aren't the norm. I've caught somewhere around 50 coons and only one would have the potential to have that high of a value.

>>837540
Yet again, 4 years ago people were making money. Even with expenses they were still making money want to know how I know this? Because I know these people. They aren't hobby trappers like you, they do it for a living. Even with southern fur people were making money. Let's say an average day on a professional southern line is 5 beaver, a grey fox, a coyote, a bobcat, an otter and 5 coon. At that current time the beaver could have easily gotten 20 each, the grey 20, the bobcat 50, the otter 70, the coon 15. That's 315 dollars a day ON AVERAGE. I have no idea what kind of expenses you have but there is no way it's over 150 bucks a day. So thats 165 bucks a day profit. 7 days a week and that's 1155 a week.

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>>837549
I think your problem is you been around these so called "pros" and you somehow think you are one too. Regardless hearsay isn't something I make a habit of believing.

Also the NAFA averages from 2012 disagree with your statements. I would post them in a SS but thread reached image limit.

>>834884
hello

>>836797
Spearing a bear that has been caught in a foot snare is perfectly legal.

>>837580
4 years ago was 2012, the fur caught in the 2012 season was auctioned February of 2013. The averages I gave aren't far off one bit considering the smart people that put up those numbers are doing so in January-early march before they move back up north and rack up numbers of spring beaver.
http://www.nafa.ca/wild-fur-auction-reports/

Actual trapper here. Got in this line of work after being screwed over by lawyers. The bac meter was rigged and I had no insurance. Anywho things were grate then fur prices fell rock bottom. I supplement my income selling live yotes to a outfit in Tenn. They got dog fightin down there and city slickers pay to shoot them.

>>836652
So if the majority of people don't like it, you shouldn't do it? Literally tyranny of the masses.

Also it's laughable that you're arguing that people should care about trapping but shouldn't care about deforestation.

The double standards of you idiots is hilarious and you will never argue further than 'muh feels'

>>837417
>there is absolutely nothing wrong with enjoying killing and death and suffering

Difference between vegans and you is that they do the best they can and they feel bad about the imperfections of the way things are; you on the other hand revel in death, its pretty much your lifes purpose.

>>838029
>complains about lawyers
>participates in a kidnapping, torture, and murder ring
>"but thur animuls so they dunt count!"

>>838104
>death is life's purpose
word

>>>/his/

>>838104
So basically what you're saying is that Vegans go around moping about how they can't do anything and hunters revel in coming face to face with their food. I can't even tell which side you're on.

>>838105
You're a huge pussy, man.

You're here for a minute and then you're not. Same for animals, same for you. Get. Over. It.

>>838104
I think you were trying to insult me, but it was a compliment.

>>838029
This is hilarious, obviously a non American (poorly) trying to fake being from the south.
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All the same person as the first, having a 3 way conversation with themselves.

>>838552
Wrong. Image limit reached or id post screencap.

Only the 3rd one is me.

>>838552
The only person samefagging is the antis. Believe or not they are the mentally unstable ones, not the barbaric unhumane trappers.

>>838179
Are you like the nihilists in big lebowski that are all "nothing matters we're only here for an instant" until shit doesn't work out their way?

>>839093
It isn't nihilism it is science. It has nothing to do with your insecurities about being a living creature.

>>839094
>It isn't nihilism it is science
like I said, one of those faggots who pretend to be all objectivist until something doesn't suit them

>>839097
No. Nihilism is a very clear lack of emotional connotation to information. Science applies this data for a function, this function relates to you. You choose how effective you can be with this information. Nihilism would lead to no reaction to data while with science this is not the case. How effective will you be knowing you will be part of the earth one day, cupcake?

>>834349
>he thinks there is a difference between choking on a snare or choking on your own blood after a lung shot
lel

>>839101
Wildlife management is 10% protection of nature for its own sake, 90% protection of easy targets for sociopath bloodlust nodick no love rednecks.

>>840630
Aw, you made something up. How cute.

>>834912
Looks like a good catch. I don't get it.

>>839101
>Nihilism is a very clear lack of emotional connotation to information.
No, nihilism is the acceptance of the lack of any objective meaning structures you hippy dippy faggot. Nothing more nothing less.

>>835286
>You eat anything with flavor in it, wear perfume or any kind of makeup? Every one of those uses trapping products.
Lol wut?

With the exception of a handful of animal derived base products (which come usually from farmed animals and not trapped ones) the majority of products traditionally derived from animals have been switched to synthetic sources with the rise of industrial chemical engineering and scales that go far beyond what could be supplied by wild populations.

>>840868
False. Acceptance is a reaction. Logical fallacy.

>>840911
'kay.

>>834107
Use foot snares this will allow dogs to get free of the device on their own and will still catch bears just fine.

>>837278
Dude just two years ago the average northern raccoon was bringing in $30.

>>839101
What does science have to do with trapping for profit?

If you followed your own advice, you'd know that science is at a point where we know animals suffer tremendously in traps.

Funny story.
Friend caught a fox in a trap.
Went up and popped its neck.
Was carrying it out and had to climb over a fence.
Tossed the fox over the fence, soon as it hit the ground it must have popped his neck back into place- fox jumped up and ran off.
Friend has seen the same fox a few times, I swear the bastard taunts him. Pretty funny.

>>842714
No they don't. Also, don't bring science into an idea like suffering. Suffering is not empirical. Aswell, the culling is only allowed if the environment is deemed, by biologists to be able to support such a cull. The value from the cull has nothing to do with the environment as it is a free market and people simply wish to buy from sonething that is clearly not permanent i.e. a good deal

There is nothing evil about it.

Also, did you enjoy your 24 hour ban?