Homegrowmen (Farming and Gardening) Thread #68

>>829517
Cute rabbit.

>>829540
I lol'd pretty hard at that. I had a groundhog do the exact same thing and I've had deer walk up on my porch and eat flowers before. Nothing is safe.

Right now I have raccoons/opossums eating my tomatoes while my electric fence is down. They've wiped out 1 bushel of tomatoes so far. I put a 6 feet tall fence around just the tomatoes, but they still climb over.

Can't wait to get the new fence up.

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>>829596
Can I borrow him?

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>>829596
I had to chase a jackrabbit out of the backyard yesterday. They do less damage this time of year than earlier on, as they like eating the leaves off my bean plants.

For the past 4 days there has been a baby robin running around the yard. Yesterday evening it almost got taken out by a falling apple during a wind storm.

When I planted in the spring I used miracle gro shake and feed fertilizer around all the plants. It seems to be doing a good job since I haven't had to fertilize at all since. Even the corn plants are nice and green with not the least bit of yellowing.

About a week until my bean plants finish producing. Getting some decent sized carrots already. Many good sized tomatoes, but none have ripened yet. Adding grass clippings between the rows early on did a good job of keeping the weeds down.

im at hitler levels of hate with these squirrels

>>829682
Pellet gun. Enjoy your target practice.

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Pumpkins

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>>829751

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>>829753

>tfw wife leaves you for something with more girth

Did I get cuked?

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>>829765

More pumpkins. They have completely taken over the compost heap. Gonna have to be more careful to remove all the seeds before I dump them this year.

>>829765
kek, has she been spending 10 minute intervals in the backyard and then taking naps?

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>>829773

Jalapeno revival! I had written this plant off since it did nothing for most of June and July.

>>829604
>>829619

go on craigslist and ask around for someone with a beagle or coonhound to take care of your rabbit problem. The dogs absolutely love doing it, it's what they're bred for and it makes them so happy. Might dig a few holes and make some noise but it's fun to watch.

>>829777

I'll get the last laugh when I pickle that fucker, put him back out in the yard, and hide the vagisil.

>>829619
beautiful garden m8

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>>829765
Doesn't need to big if where you are sticking it is tight.

Didn't plant cukes this year so I'm unencumbered.

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the first super hot of the season. it is a "black naga". it is super hot and i made the mistake of peeing after handling the inside seeds without gloves. mighty tasty too.

>>829780
that plant looks very healthy. good luck!!

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>>829884
You're not lived if you haven't rubbed one out after processing super hot peppers.

>that week after processing my trinidad moruga scorpion peppers

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>>829884
you should always wear an anti-pepper condom anon. every. time. you gotta be vigilant.

>>829899
You can't do pepper sounding with a condom on.

>>829908
https://youtu.be/VKcAYMb5uk4

>>829899
this happened to me a few weeks ago. I cut open a seranno pepper to get the seeds. Put the seeds on a plate then washed my hands.
Went to my room with the seeds on a plate to dry out, handled the seeds a bit.
Pulled out my fellow for a wank, and the capsaicin was on my fingers from the seeds. Holy fuck that was unpleasant.

>>829922
yeah not too pleasant at all

>>829898
how are the morugas?
classic chinense taste or are they a little different? i may pick up some of them seeds next.

>>829957
>how are the morugas?

They are really sweet-fruity tasting and ungodly fucking hot. When you bite into one it is like, "Oh hey that is really ---BLARGE!!!!"

>>830003
yummy. have you tried any 7 pots? i ask because they are carribean too.

>>829891

Thanks, I put him in with the tomatoes because I read somewhere they get along, but honestly I think they've just been robbing him of sun since they grew way bigger than I expected. Do you companion plant with your peppers at all?

>>829773
Volunteers are fun. But, if you don;t want them, then don;t sweat the seeds too much. Just pull seedlings, or turn your compost more. Most piles don;t get hot enough to kill seeds. You'll always have them.

>>829846
nice. I always thought about doing some of those cases for cucurbits. Make faces on them, etc.

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I've been growing the same type of Porcelain bulbs for at least 6 years. Maybe 8? I always get around 10% doubles, 30% triples, and 60% quads. I replant each year from the biggest of each clove, and record whether dubs, trips or quads give more, what they give, etc.
I pulled all my garlic a couple weeks ago and just began to sort, weigh and record it. The bulbs this year are 7% quads, 16% quints, 56% hexes, and 21% hepts. No dubs or trips. What the hell??!!

>>830420
Selective breeding, yo.

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Water spots or fungus?

>>830451
Insufficient data for a meaningful response. Wait longer.

>>830475
You made this reference yesterday.

>>830482
I don't know what you mean.

>>830487
http://multivax.com/last_question.html
Someone made a reference to this in the last thread. I may be misremembering though.

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My Jalapeno plant is showing something. Can anyone tell me what I'm looking at here? Nutrient burn or deficiency?

>>830490
I've read that, but that wasn't me and don't even remember the last time someone said that. But, it is the correct answer since the photo is too inconclusive.

>>830451
dilute with water or scratch it?

>>830491
Maybe simply an old leaf. Could you show the pot size besides the plant?

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>>830497
Here's the plant as a baby. The pot is between 3-5 gallons, not exactly sure.

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Some more Dragon Cayenne's. I've harvested almost 40 in the past month and the plant is loading up with more. Might need to overwinter that sucker.

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Balcony gardener, I had a coupe pots of peas that seemed to be doing real well up until this started happening. The leaves and stems that aren't totally yellowed and dry have a weird white film or powder on them, and whatever it is started at the bottom and is working its way up.

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>>830544

Here's a closer photo. Some of the leaves have these circlular chomps right out of them, but I searched high and low for some sort of crawly or beetle and found nothing. I've got aphid problems with my basil and green pepper, but I've never seen them on the peas so I'm pretty sure it's not that...

>tfw seeing all those successes with Capsicums ITT
I only have bell peppers, and they're slow as fuck. All the plants do have various fruits now, but none show signs of reddening so far, even though some fruits have been out for 6+ weeks now
Weather has been atrocious though lately, >10h of drizzle everyday from Tuesday to Thursday and not a single ray of sun, today there was at least some sun in the morning/early afternoon until the grey drizzleshit came back again in the evening for 6 or so hours. Also way too cold for the time of the year, barely reaching 21-22°C highs (17 on Tuesday), and it's supposed to get even cooler soon, I guess summer is pretty much over here at that point, so I'll probably have to pick the bell peppers green before they rot away...

>>830573
RIP
Everyone else probably isn't growing in Britain or whatever shithole you live in.

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>>830603
Germany, similar shit (it's a relatively """dry""" region with """only""" 540mm of rain per year, just that it's concentrated in summer and doesn't fall in short intense thunderstorms as it does in the Mediterranean, but in long, dragged-out drizzles)

>>829790
^^

I'm green with envy.

>>830430
Man, you must be kidding.

Same selection each year (big cloves from 2s, 3s and 4s) and same return each year of 2s, 3s, and 4s. This year that's all out the window?!>>830544

looks like the powdery mildew that squashes can get. Can peas get it?

>>830603
you ever try growing in plastic to get hotter soil temps? Once i tried it (Vermont) I never looked back.

>>830133
i just plant my peppers with other peppers . but they do need ample sunlight and regular watering. some think if you starve the plant from water the peppers will ne hotter.

>>830515
are they spicy

>>830610
dont worry there is a reason red bells are more expensive they take a very long time. but once some color does show it will be a matter of days until it attains a full hue. im growing carolina reapers and it is the last to get a fruit. in fact right now.its all flowers no fruit. but i know theyre coming. but sunlight and proper soil temp (as someone else mentioned) is key to growing peppers

Springtime soon. Winter gardening sucks, though my radishes, kohl rabi, and chinese cabbages look damn fine.

>>830637

>mildew

Oh shit fuck. I hope not. Anyway I've got
No clue. Still those weird circular holes in the leaves also.

>>830649
Yeah, I'd say they're a bit spicier than the 30,000-50,000 they're rated at. I think it's a cayenne/thai hybrid. Great plant; I'm going to get 2 or 3 of them next year.

>>830646
This is only true for certain peppers like Jalapenos and Nu Mex varieties. Bell peppers need consistently moist soil.

>>830700
likewise my dude
potatoes are going mighty fine though, and I'm hoping these fucking hazelnuts will have the dignity to sprout come september

>>830735
hence why i said regular watering, and then added that counterpoint
lrn 2 read.
and the technique i described is more commonly applied to chinense.

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>>830747
I've just prepared some seeds in containers ready for spring.

Got a hell of a list here.

Cherokee Wax, Borlotti, Green beans
Aji Fantasy, Ebony Fire, Cayenne, Caribbean Mix, Orange Wonder chillies
Brandywine, Hillbilly, Indigo, Pineapple tomatoes
Red and Black goji berries
Bloody Butcher, Sweet Berry and some other purple corn that I forget the name of
Thai eggplant
Burgundy Okra
Spinach
Cucamelon
Cornflowers
Yellow Turnips
Tah Tsai
Red Giant Mustard Greens
Hollow Crown Parsnips
Red Fortune, Moulin Rouge, Velvet Queen and Evening Sun Sunflowers
And a fuckload of Amaranth varieties for tasty, colourful salads.

Also got some potatoes I'm growing in buckets.

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>>830490
That was me the other day. Not this guy you're talking too.

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Hey /out/ists.

Some time ago I decided to try out growing something simple in the pots I had lying around.

I decided on two most popular herbs/weed around, broadleaf plantain and dandelion.

Im getting scared of how fucking many Plantains came up, should I somehow separate them, or say 'fuck it' and let them grow as they please?

Also, little tomato I planted after finding it already growing inside tomato fruit.

All pic taken with potato web camera.

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>>830951
The bigger leafs are from the root I decided to bury, little leafs from seeds.

Platain from seeds only.

>>830951
Survival of the fittest. Clearly the one that survives the longest will also be the tastiest.

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>>830952
And a tomato. I dont have a huge hopes for him, probably will wither in a month or two.
Still gonna keep trying, right?

I water all of twice, them every morning and night.

Will gave to separate Plantain to something more spacious and deeper, current dish thingy wont suffice for much longer, I think.

>>830954
Dunno about taste, Its mainly medical weed, so I would rather gave a quantity available.

>>829619
>For the past 4 days there has been a baby robin running around the yard. Yesterday evening it almost got taken out by a falling apple during a wind storm.

What a way to go.

>>829765
>got cuked
>>829846
>unencumbered

lel

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>>829532
What is a good set of flower i can grow and cut for vases etc all spring/summer?

Out last evening harvesting male squash blossom because I have a ton and my neighbouring plots have squash that pollinate my female flowers for me. To my suprise, I found bees sleeping in a couple of the closed flowers, and it made me jump about a foot in the air when the flower in my hand started BUZZING. Apparently its common for bees to sleep in them which is...kinda adorable, but terrifying when I have to run the fuck away from a pissed off bee. I will have to remember to gather earlier on in the day.

>>830984
I see bumble bees do that all the time. If it is a honeybee, it is more than likely diseased and won't be allowed back into the hive.

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Could someone help me identify these mushrooms growing in my lawn?
I live in southern California if that helps

>>831113
Google, "mushroom identification key" and learn how to make a spore print.

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>>831113
I think it looks like the Chlorophyllum molybdites but not sure

>>831118
I looked up some stuff and I'm almost sure it's Chlorophyllum molybdites
But I'm not 100% sure and would like someone who is an expert or at least better than me give me their opinion

>>831122
>>831119
I agree with, "Chlorophyllum molybdites". It pops up all over the place from coast to coast. Foreigners often eat it thinking it is something from home and of course this is poisonous instead. Do a spore print, bruise test, and smell it really well. It should be "phenolic" in odor.

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Cherokee Purple

>>830956
>tomato
Unless you're from Straya or some tropical place, this the worst time to start them desu, I usually do so at the opposite side of the year (i.e. February)

>>831113
>California
You will never get a positive ID. Professional mycologists often have trouble with California shrooms.

>>831119
Agaricus campestris is my guess. Are the gill pinkish when small/young, with the bigger and older ones having brown gills? And does it turn brown when bruised.

>>831193
About 5 days ago I ran a small patch of 3 over with the lawnmower. The chopped up mushrooms bruised brown/blackish

The big ones are about the size of my hand and if not then they are larger.

When I get home I will take some better pictures and I'll rip one from the ground so you can see under

However I think they look closer to the Chlorophyllum molybdites than the agaricus campestris

>>831200
Mmm, that does seem like a pretty likely candidate as well, them and Chlorophyllum molybdites do look a lot alike. Post pics of gills too, if you can.

>>830978
>all spring/summer

Spring peonies and irises
Summer, lilies

Warning with irises is you can't cut too much stem or it won't flower the next year

>>830812
fuckin nice

>>831406
>secure tripcode
Autism

>>831149
Looks rotten..

Does potato growth time affect the size or the number of the potatoes more?
It's only been two months since I planted, and the Internet says to harvest after three, but the vines are starting to get long and wild and I'd prefer to get rid of them now if they'd be usable.

>>830544
White stuff is mostly likely Powdery Mildew. Not too difficult to get rid of. Knock it off with water or spray with your choice of fungicide.

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tomatoes growing in scandinavia. I have about 30-40 plants. Pick maybe 1kg of tomatoes per day. Loving the impact that tomatoes are having on my life atm senpai.

>>831496
why does that trigger you? maybe you fall in the spectrum?

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>>831406
Planted even more seeds today.

Bergamot, Purple Frilled mustard greens, Pink Sprouting kale, Red Velvet sunflowers, Moon and Stars watermelon, Sugar and Turkish Turban Pumpkins, Kiwano, Turkish eggplants, Kangaroo Paw flowers, Meadowsweet and Willow Herb, and some dandelions for tea.

Really want to make my own tea, and I've been buying tea herbs and seeds for tea herbs.

>>831678

Hnnngh. I'll have to go get some fungicide, never thought that'd be a problem up on a nine story balcony. It's weird, this happened the previous year and I figured it was just likel, trauma from wind damage in a storm or something.

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Can I grow something on this?

>>829685
This.

>>832438
You can grow anything you want, just follow your dreams, Anon.

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>>832441

>>829884
>>829898
>>829922
>>829941

Next time you make this mistake: put olive oil on a tissue and wipe your penis with it. Capsaicin is fat soluble. Been there, done that, worked like a charm.

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My mound is doing ok. I put a pine log in there so I'm going to either plant blueberries next year or just dismantle it.

>>832502
thanks for the tip.
but imma need someone to livestream them doing this.... for research obviously

>>829751
>>829773
Those look like ornamental gourds to me.

>>830729
Should I wait til mine get red? I have these in New Hampshire and tried them when they were green and kinda thought they were shitty.

>>832678
They are exponentially better when fully ripe.

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Next year I want to maximize my garden. Anyone have a preferred method to get the most out a small space.

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>>832821
This pictures out pointing south west. The sunniest parts of my yard

>>830501
>Bonnie Plants
Why even bother? You missed out the joy of growing from seed. Your plant is most-likely rootbound and won't grow to full potential. Worse of all, you just lined their pockets for what should only cost $0.25 cents at the most.

>>832822
nice car and girl in your picture

>>832825
Its not hard to un-rootbound a plant anon

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>>832822
Did my best.

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>>832857
Not much to comment here. Get your support fixed so you don't have problems.

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>>832835
She's made out of plastic.

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>>832821
>>832822
>>832884
Pretty much this. It is all about layout and accessibility. Green areas are gardening areas. Brown is chicken coop. You can move it over each of the garden beds, to rotate your crops, and fertilize the ground. Grey areas are permanent walkways.

>>832838
They put down hormones in the soil that slows further root growth. So even after you break it up a bit it won't root as much or as quickly. This could be beneficial if you're nearly at the biggest size pot since you don't want as much energy going into roots as tops, often that is how plants react too as long as they're well watered.

>>832821
>>832822
You call your giant yard "small"??

>>833089
It is small by most standards. At least in America. I have a 3.5 acre yard. It is a bitch to mow because there's so much stuff to mow around.

>>833098
If you don't want to mow around it, just get rid of it.

>>833098
>three and a half acres
>small

Only if you live in a rural area. I'd love to have so much space, but it's impossible in the city.

Why not just leave the city?

>>833121
>city

I have no pity for people who live in a city and complain they live in a city. Move.

>>833101
I'm a farmer. The things I mow around are my chicken coop, fruit trees, pond, vegetable gardens, fences, etc. I got rid of all the useless flower beds long ago. Everything is spread out nicely though, the larger open sections are quickly mowed.

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>>833089
Half of it is a septic field so I'm just going to make it a gaint chicken run.

Spring is about 3 weeks away and I'm wondering whether there is anything I should be doing to my habanero plants to prepare? They've all lost 95% of their leaves in the first weeks of winter and don't seem to be growing at the moment, should I use this time to trim them? What about repotting? Should they be wet during this time?

>>833987
They should be watered properly and normally all the time. No drying out, no soggy mess. You can trim it back until it is about 12 inches/30cm around in shape. You can repot them when you trim them.

If you have frost in your area, wait till about 1 week after the last frost before starting to harden the plants off outside. If you don't have frost, wait until soil temps are about 55F/13C or higher before setting them out into the ground. If you are keeping them in pots, only set them out when the air temps are like that at night.

>>833987
Water your plants an hour before repotting-- this gives them a last drink before possible shock or root damage.

It has rained so much here that everything is drowning and my shroom logs are visibly covered with baby fruiting bodies... but I don't think it's what I inoculated them with

>>834139
>my shroom logs are visibly covered with baby fruiting bodies... but I don't think it's what I inoculated them with

My ancient shiitake logs have given up the ghost. They are as light as paper now and you can lift them with one hand like nothing at all. They got too wet and started growing blue-green mold all over them. One partially fruited, but 1 banana slug ate most of those.

I was going to make more logs with those, but since the mold moved in, I'll have to toss them and start from stretch.

They had a good run though, for being rather small logs. I inoculated them back in 2011.

My test logs for chicken-of-the-woods got fried. Someone moved them and put them all on the south side of my house right near the wall where the white siding reflected the sun and they dried out 100% and baked. I soaked them, but only new fungi of a different type started colonizing it instead. I'll probably get some chicken-of-the-woods plug spawn when I get some shiitake plug spawn.

Got any photos of the fruiting bodies on your logs?

who else grows cacti

I just got a san pedro from lowes. gonna need some extra lights to keep it happy in the winter since I live in MA.

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I've got a decent pumpkin patch this year, despite the borers, about 10 of these guys.

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>>834358
About a dozen of these.

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>>834359
and here's a neat lookin one.

>>834361
He's a big guy. Is that a normal size?

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No one has smashed it yet

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>>834390
Beats me, I don't keep track of anything.

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>>829532
I found a colony of bugs like this in my potted plant. They're maybe around 1 mm in length, max and white to dark grey in color. They're not springtails.

They're too small for any of my cameras to capture.

Any ideas what they could be?

>>834416
They are springtails.

>>834361
Whoa. Awesome. Never seen a pumpkin that big. What are you planning on doing with that?

>>834392
Maybe you live near a school full of good children who aren't prone to acts of wanton violence.

>>834392
>>834482
>smash
>wanton violence
But why would they do that to the pumpkins?

>>834504
Teenagers, man. They just do shit because they think it's epic.

>>834504
It is a youth tradition in most places to smash the pumpkins.

>>834507
Is it because of that one band?

>>834514
No, it is literally a tradition since the 1800s. The band is probably named after it.

>>831496
it's probably bugguy desu

>>834392
you live in a respectful neighbourhood

Just bought 1.5 acres of untamed rural farmland in southern Oregon. What should I grow, fellas?

>>834670
pot

>>834673
Nice meme

>>834675
grow Elm Trees

>>834677
For lumber or sale as saplings?

>>834687
Saplings
They're making a comeback since the disease has passed. Municipalities want them and new development areas too because they provide huge canopies.

>>834690
Good to know. On the topic of saplings, are japanese maples a meme?

>>834694
idk, man. Just grow native trees imo

So I want to grow some potatoes vertically and maybe some tomatoes (horizontally) but my garden's soil is not so good. What kind of soil should I buy to grow these things?

>>834825
Vertical soil

>>834825
oh and horizontal soil for the tomatoes too if you can find any

>>831763
I'm very envious.

>>834827
>>834828
Fuck you tbhqfam

How am I supposed to use peat moss? I've got a bag of it however it seems extremely hydrophobic and when I get it wet by massaging it with water, it dries out hard. I know people use it in mixes but I can't help but feel that it's not very useful.

I already garden outside but I was wondering... I'd like to have some plants in my room year round. I live in NE Ohio and have a South-facing window in my bedroom. What plants could I harvest from year round (like herbs and such) that would survive the winters in my window?

>>834839
It is only good if you have very sandy soil that needs to be able to hold some moisture. Putting it into your other soils just robs them of nitrogen when microbes start breaking it down. I found that it was better to just compost it with my other stuff and stopped buying it.

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>>834862
It just depends on light levels from your window. You can have peppers, tomatillos, tomatoes, etc if there is enough light.

As for herbs, you need ones that don't bolt and taste nasty. That way you can harvest from them year-round.

Garlic shoots: they come up all the time, just have enough planted to take care of your needs and have a few more.

Mint: can't go wrong with mint, but it loves light.

Watercress: get an aquarium air pump and air stone for these.

Lamb's Quarter (aka Magenta Spreen from seed catalogs): like spinach, but doesn't taste horrid when it bolts. It grows massive, plant in succession, so that you always have 12 inch or smaller plants to eat. Gets woody as it gets older, but leaves are still great.

Thyme: grows easily enough, likes lots of light.

Purslane: great for hanging pots, but likes lots of light.

Lettuce, collards, spinach, etc: most do well indoors, but having a cheap shop light over them helps a lot. When they get too warm they tend to bolt and taste horrific.

Sprouts: You can have sprouts year-round even in the dark (unless the seeds are light-triggered for germinating). Sprouts go great with many recipes and salads. Just keep everything clean and fresh, make smaller batches instead of like 1-gallon jars of the stuff.

How should I plant out taro tubers? I can see some eyes forming extremely slowly but half of the thing is just rotting into mush so I'm not sure that just straight planting it would be a good idea. Also I've read about people cutting tubers around the eyes in plants like jerusalem artichokes and taro's, how is this not just going to create an easy vector for disease and mold to ruin the plants.
>>834945
>tomatillos
Do you have any experience growing these? I love growing peppers and tomatoes and tomatillos seem like great fun. Are they worth the space?

>>834948
>Do you have any experience growing these? I love growing peppers and tomatoes and tomatillos seem like great fun. Are they worth the space?

I've grown them every year for the past 5 or so years. If you love good salsa, I highly recommend them. They will replant themselves for years too, if you let a few fruit ripen and drop off into the soil. I found a dozen or so plants coming up randomly in my yard where a fruit had been hit by the lawn mower or something.

I find their best use is for fresh salsa. Canned salsa they are so-so, but canned salsa is never as good as the fresh stuff. I have canned them alone, but I don't like them in that form very well. Drying them works well and are nice to add to soups and such.

Growing them is easy enough, but they come up after the soil is rather warm and tend to be the last volunteer to pop up. Thus, they are late starters. Once they are growing, you should stake them as they tend to grow into acacia-style "bushes" where the limbs break and lean over to the ground to root.

For processing the fruit, I highly recommend using a mild soap on them after removing the paper husk. If you don't they can often have a foot-like odor contained in that stickiness on the outside of the fruit and inside of the paper husk.

Tomatoes, Peppers, and Tomatillos are the best combination you can grow. They really complement each other in dishes.

Would it be viable to fill in a salt chlorinated pool to grow plants in?

>>834825
50/50 Garden Soil and Compost

>>831149
How is the taste

>>835462
So long as you remove the chemicals and their residue, yes.

>>835524
Those taste great. I grew some one year, everyone loved them.

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My potted beets have these white spots. How fucked am I?

i planted ornamental cabbage seeds today to display them next to mums this fall in PA

did i plant them too late?

>>835524
Excellent. The skin is a bit tough tho if you want to be picky

>>834694
Pretty much.

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wondering if I should pull that pumpkin plant on the right, isn't looking as good as the other one and would probably clear up valuable root space

>>836094
Yes.

What's /out/'s favourite variety of tomato to grow for cooking? Are there any varieties that are better than san marzano?

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Anyone know what is doing this to my sweet potato?

>>836575
Your plant has cancer.

Many of my plants have mites eating the leaves. They are not fussy at to what plant they attack, although some plants seem to be strangely immune. Any ideas? This problem is years long desu. Horticultural oil seems to be not that good for controlling it, and with dense plants it's hard to apply it. I sprayed a succulent with the oil last week and all the leaves with mites on them died after a day, the oil just sped up the plants demise.

Seems like generally a healthy plant will resist it well enough, a heat, cold or moisture stressed plant can be killed by the mites.

>>836590
Mites or aphids?
Either way, try spraying them with water mixed with dish soap and cayanne pepper

>>836610
Mites. I can't even see them usually. Obviously not aphids as they are huge and attack stems, not leaves.

>>836588
serious answers please

>>836575
Needs some fertilizer or you're watering it way too much.

>>836407
I have good luck with smaller ones- Juilet and Varona from Johnny's seeds.

There are many heirloom ones that I used to grow, but I have too mnay blight problems now. Opalka and amish paste were good.

Any tips for shipping mushrooms? I know they're pretty damn delicate so I was thinking of vacuum-packed bags surrounded with Styrofoam beads.

>>836637
Thanks! Should I remove the damaged leaves?

>>836723
They will fall off on their own.

>>836722
When sending 1lbs samples to fungi.com I was told, "When preparing the sample please wrap the fruitbody in wax paper and put that in a paper bag. Do not put it in a plastic bag." and "standard overnight shipping".

This was for living tissue, not dehydrated.

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What is this bug?

>>836757
Looks like a tiny strawberry.

>>836757
Probably a beetle, not a bug.

>>836732
Thanks for the tip friend

>>836764
But is it harmful to fruit or plant? There's a couple of them on my strawberry plants

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I'm transplanting my dragonfruit seedlings today and it's hard to decide which ones are strong enough to live

>>836757
>>836764
>>836832
Now that I can look at it better, it is a shield bug nymph. Kill it.

>>836890
Well, that's a shame. There are also a handful of bugs that prey on other bugs like spiders and katydids which I like, but since there are a lot of those shield bugs they must not be doing good enough of a job.

Time to get spraying.

>>836931
Wait, I phrased that slightly wrong, take katydid out of the description

>>836931
I find that if there are tons of pest insects, the predator arthropods will then move in. If there are low levels, the predators don't really show up. You have to attract or place the predators.

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I went on a tour of a small local orchard today.

The owner also grows strawberries, but varieties that aren't hardy enough to survive the prairie winters. So they are all in grow bags sitting in a trough using a float valve for self watering. In late fall they all get hauled inside and stacked on shelves. Last year he said his ever bearing varieties produced until November by covering them at night.

He also has peach trees in large bags that get kept in a storage shed during the winter.

His entire vegetable garden was setup in bags, most of which were on waist high troughs for easy access. Except the large section of potatoes. Neat setup, low maintenance.

>>837017
>low maintenance.

Neat yes, but that stuff is higher maintenance than anything else other than hydroponics.

>>832821
clear cut everything and start over with an organized layout of precast concrete planter boxes.

So has bugguy officially killed himself?

>>835941
yeah mine too, just clip the leaves off with really big spots. I think it's bacterial leaf spot. My beats did this last year too but I still got a decent yield. Also thin yours out, they look wayu too close together

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>>837107
probably not. in fact he probably just toned it down and posts stuff like >>837102 now.

>>837109
Thanks senpai Pretty much every single leaf has spots. What should I think it out to? Should I toss the soil when after harvest?

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>>832821
i think blocking it out with so there are more defined barriers might make it more manageable and aesthetic, just to begin with. au naturál is cool but it all just starts to wash together and compete

anyone know anything about aquaculturing some seaweed?

>>835662
>So long as you remove the chemicals and their residue, yes.

How?

>>837366
Use clean water and towels. Scrub and scrub the surfaces. Use a 5-gallon bucket like a mop bucket. It shouldn't take long.

>>837127
That's a good point. A rock or log border would work if he wants something that looks more natural but still aesthetic.

Hello please?
Anyone here any good at math?
I'm making a bed 1 meter deep, 1 meter wide and 7 meters long.
I'm putting several layers if different organic matter with each layer being 18 centimeters deep.
I want to work out how much in liters I need to fill that 18 cm using the figures above. I'm too retarded to work it or how to ask Google, feel free to flame me but please add an answer and the formula so I don't have ask again.
7 meters long
1 meter wide
18 cm deep
= ? Litres
Anyone help please?

>>837601
Well if you already have metric then it's easy. 1 m^3 = 1000 l
Your total would be 7 m^3 and your sub-things 7*0.18 = 1.26 m^3

Be aware though that it will settle down/compress over time

>>837611
So I'm looking at 1260 litres, thanks for helping out, I can work out the other beds of different depths from this, also it's going to be cheaper than i initially thought.
The finished beds will be around 20 cm higher than ground level to allow for over winter settling. Thanks again :)

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Almost all of my watermelon plants have died off now (leaves drying out and crumbling, I was worried at first but after some research apparently they do that when fruits get ripe), so I picked up most of the fruits and let only one stand where the leaves are still somewhat living
Here a photo from yesterday, shortly before picking

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>>837678
It was only 6 fruits in total (so I guess 1 per plant), of the 5 picked the lightest one was 680g, the heaviest 4.8kg, and a total of about 13 kg.
A heavy one still needs a few days to ripen and it's at about 4kg I guess, so I'll end up a total of 17kg from about 6 m^2 patch
Here a pic of 4 of the 5 I picked today

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>>837682
And finally a pic of the 5th one sliced open (medium one of 2.5kg)

After all I'm rating my first watermelon experiment as semi-success
The variety I plnted (Red Star F1) has apparently been selected for early ripening so that it also grows in cooler regions of Germoni (there it probably would ripen in Sep/Oct) but has relatively low yield.
So for me in a very favourable microclimate on the Upper Rhine, it's been sort of a waste and I could have gotten more out of the season with a different later, but bigger, variety, so it can use the remaining late summer/early autumn heat too.
Next year I think I'm gonna try Crimson Red, even if it means an October harvest, but it'll be bigger

>>837678
>>837682
>>837685
Very nice, anon.

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>>837690
Thanks, but next year I wanna do better
Oh and BTW while I don't exactly remember which plant was which, I'm pretty sure the biggest, 4.8kg fruit grew on my November watermelon (if someone remembers) which first got sunburn upon planting out in May but then made an amazing recovery in June


Also my bell peppers are finally making some progress.
Pic related is the most advanced fruit yet (it popped op in fucking mid-June and took a loong time to go further, but in the last few days it's been reddening very quickly as we're finally having some nice semi-warm late summer weather again - almost full sun and highs of 28°C the last couple days), an unnamed "Hungarian paprika", on one of 2 plants I bought from store in late May because I still had some open space in the garden
The fruits are so heavy the tiny plants tipped over (I'm amazed how they can manage to pop out and carry such huge things relative to their size)

The other ca. 20 bell pepper plants are "California Wonder" and while they're popping out even bigger fruits, only a few are now in the progress from slowly changing from green to yellow, so they'll be very late
I think next year I'll do for bell peppers the opposite to the melons - I'll save seeds from the Hungarian ones and replant these, while cutting down on the California Wonders

>>837685
RIP meller

>>837715
I wish I could save seeds from those to let em live on, but they were a very expensive F1 hybrid (€2.80/10 seed pack), so I won't re-use the new seeds as they'll have random properties

>>837127
At some.point I'm going to build more raised beds like the other ones. But I ran out of money. So everything on that the images side of rhe cherry tree is scavenged. I plan on turning the spot with the chair on it into strawberries.

>>837709
is that a mangoe

>>837737
>mango
Kek no, they'd freeze to death here even in "summer"

>>837743
liar

>>837752
It was 8°C just two nights ago

Anything tropical like coconut, avocado, pineapple or mango would've died

>>837756
not if you keep it warm

Anyone have any experience growing cotton indoors? I got some seeds and figured It'd make an unusual houseplant.

>>837769
tell me they cant grow weed

>>837771
They can't. They buy it from whites and Mexicans and just re-sell.

>>837769
nails? hair? *dingdingding*

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Went cheap on the irrigation, but it does its job. Very late for tomatoes, but I live in southern California so maybe I can squeak some out before November.

>>838384
Kek are those Erigeron canadensis? They really seem to grow everywhere (Rhinefag here, so apparently the span a wide range of climates and continents too), even out of cracks in the mortar between the tiles on my balcony (the fuck did they get there? It's 3m above ground), only other weed that does this is Solanum nigrum, but at least that one has edible fruit
>>838390
If you're in a frost-free area (I assume so) you can grow the tomatoes as perennials anyway and only need to replace them every 3 or so years once fruit production slows down

>>838384
>>838631
>Kek are those Erigeron canadensis?

I've been wondering what that plant is, I see it growing wild around here and I'm on the opposite side of the continent from Southern California.

I'm planning on growing some plants. Unfortunately right now I have no real outdoor space and I'm out and about most of the day. How viable would it be for myself to grow plants on a bike trailer? Would constant movement and wind affect plants negatively?

>>839012
Don't grow on a trail, grow in a sunny patch off the trail...the hardest thing would be watering and keeping animals away

>>839022
Trailer as in a cargo trailer hitched to my bicycle.

>>839027
Wait wtf, so you're going to bike around with plants attached for 8 hours everyday?

>>839035
That sounds like an absurd and fantastic idea.

Is it doable?

>>839046
I guess if your cart has enough root space and you can be on your bike for 8 hours a day I don't see why not

>>839035
Yes, basically. With the trailer I have in mind I can easily fit 3-4 dwarf fruit trees. Or I could just make a wooden planter box put proper drainage, planting soil, and have a decent spread of smaller vegetable varieties. I also have the option of placing things in a pannier and handlebar basket like herbs.

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First little harvest!

>>839064
>>839046
>>839035
To do something like that I recommend starting a plant from see and allowing it to grow up in such conditions. A fully grown plant many not take well to the physical abuse. A new;y sprouted plant will be marginally tougher, thicker, and shorter; thus able to withstand the treatment.

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>>839098
Same here with peppers. I've been getting tomatoes for a month now though.

>>839098
nice! jelly

>>839125
What kind of pepper are the ones in the center, top row, picture? They look delicious.

>>839122
Okay, I'll try it. If all else fails I'm just gonna make a cart of sod so at least I can have some nice greenery to take a nap on.

>>839159
Sweet "Yellow" Banana Peppers

They turn red when fully ripe, but like "green" peppers, most people don't let them do that.

>>837017
That looks like at least $75,000 in OSHA fines in that pic

>>839368
Really, why don't you point them out mr know it all?
What is the point in making a BS post like that?

>>837121
>I toss the soil when after harvest?
maybe a good idea, or just mix in some compost and other new potting soil

>>839376
It's probably Bugguy without his trip

>>839414
this is a good guess but OSHA is a US agency and Bugs McGhee wouldn't know anything about anything outside of Denmark or wherever the fuck he is. only that American gardens are shitty "French Style".

>>839414
Entire thread is Bugguy without his trip.

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>>839432

is bugguy=plont=mod?

>>839376
All employees deserve a safe working environment friendo

Anything wrong with using my piss as a fertilizer?

>>839569
Too heavy on nitrogen and especially too much unnecessary sodium

>>839571
What if I eat a low protein and salt diet?

>>839574
Meh, still the wrong NPK ratio
Maybe add some ash

>>839125

>tfw my sunflower got beheaded by a storm right when he was about to bloom

Yours looks great though. Love where you placed it in your garden too.

>>839577
what if I use a small amount of piss and compensate with a counter balacing substrate you fucking faggot nothing is impossible follow your fucking dreams bro>>839569 piss on whatever the fuck you want don't let nobody tell you otherwise

>>839368
>>839537
I don't see anything unsafe in that image that OSHA would care about.

>>839479
>>839432
>>839414
Probably got banned again.

>>839816
You need to let them flower and then pollinate them.

>>839828
i thought you were shpposed to avoid pollenating them

>>839816
Kill yourself you fucking druggie.

>>839816
REEEEE GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD YOU DEGENERATE STONER

>>839830
misconception. Definitely want to pollinate so the resins start flowing.

>>839835
>>839836
im making rope

>>>840081


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>>840086
>>840081


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>>840086
The fuck are you doing, we're far from bump limit, the times where we had one new thread every 10 days due to most of the "content" being trip-related autism are luckily gone

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>>840090

new thread

>>840081

>>832438

Test the soil fertility (homekit you can buy) and see what plants might survive....you could always dig up 3feet and mix-in/replace with soil.

OR

you could create a raised bed around that area with wood.

>grass is growing there so some other shit could too

>>840100
>>840089
>>840086
Why? we still have 32 posts left in this thread before it starts its 5+ day journey to being dropped off the board.

>>839912
Plant Dogbane (Apocynum cannabinum) then,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocynum_cannabinum

>A very strong and good quality fiber obtained from the bark is a flax substitute that does not shrink and retains its strength in water.[5] It is used for making clothes, twine, bags, linen, paper, etc.[5] The plant yields a latex which is a possible source of rubber.[5] Apocynum cannabinum was used as a source of fiber by Native Americans,[6] to make hunting nets, fishing lines, clothing, and twine.[4] It is called qéemu [qǽːmu] in Nez Perce and [taxʷɨ́s] in Sahaptin. The Concow tribe call the plant pö (Konkow language).[7]

hwthaveanyexeriencegrwingbberriesindrs

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>>829532
Dear plant fags,
I live in a relatively temperate climate in the US at latitude 37.387 and I just bought a handful of common herb seeds to plant. I looked at the package and there was some bla bla bla wall of text about planting around the last frost and yadda yadda yadda summer season. So I was like "it rarely get's that cold here, so like as if I'm going to wait a half a year just to plant some faggy plants" and put them in pots anyways. Then I realized I know nothing about plants. So I thought I'd ask you. How badly did I just fuck up?

Sincerely,
Anon

>>840335
if you don't reach freezing at night you should be fine

>>840086
>>840089
>>840100
fuck your stupid generals with the non general picture

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>>840368
I see, that's good news. Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.

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I need to buy a soil riddle/sieve for potting soil. I have seen steel, wood and plastic types in 3-4mm. Do you have any suggestions or recommendations?

The wood one is like $20 and the metal one is $15. I can't find the plastic one anywhere except alibaba.

>>840596
also spotted a 3 in 1 bonsai sieve that lets you place the mesh within a steel frame. reviews seem good but concerned about the longevity of this design. also spotted a 2mm/4mm japanese sieve which I expect would be higher quality.

>>840335
Most vegetable plants die or suffer when temps start to dip below 55F. Low soil temps also hinder them. Some don't like growing at all when it is cool. Frost normally kills them.

>latitude 37.387

East coast that is too cold in winter.
West coast you can normally grow year round with a row cover.

>>840596
Why do you need it so fine? Normally, you need small and large pieces to help prevent compaction.

>>840371
Not only that but he made 2 threads 12 mins apart, >>840071 & >>840081

>>840613
at the garden i volunteer at they said the 6mm sieve was too wide for potting soil. we grow a lot of stuff, don't seem to have compacting issues.

>>840666
Like potting in pots or in ground?

>>840670
pots, yeah. yoghurt pot sized things. they only go in the ground once they're a several inches tall.

>>840613
West coast you can normally grow year round with a row cover.
Oh sorry I forgot to say, yes I'm west coast, I'll cover them with some sheeting and stuff then when the nights start to get colder. Thanks for the information.

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>>840613
I'm from 50°N, temps can sometimes dip below 10°C/50F even in some colder July/August nights
However I planted out my still tiny winter pre-grown (indoors) thyme and oregano seedlings in the garden late February, they all survived (were exposed to -2 in early March), though growing rather slowly in the beginning.
Sage went out mid-March and grew quickly (see pic)
Tomatoes followed late April and were also exposed to almost 0°C but didn't mind (exception is one plant I had to set outside already mid-March because it had become too huge and leggy, that while heavily damaged, in the end survived too, but I don't blame cold here, instead sunburn cause I never hardened it off at all)
tl;dr depends on the species, but generally perennials can take more of a punch than annuals that are grown in the same area.
So while I wouldn't start tomatoes or peppers now any more, herbs like thyme, rosemary, oregano etc shouldn't be an issue to plant out now

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>>840910
More current pic of the sage from a few days ago shortly before I pruned it back a little, that tiny cutting has become a huge ass shrub in just half a year

>>840910
It really depends on variety too. Some are far hardier than others. General rule is 55F though.

>>840916
Aw man. Look at all that sage. I'm envious. They look great.

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Fuck these guys. I'm glad I killed it and all its family.

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>>840971
Also fuck these guys.

>>840959
>They
It's still the very same single cutting I rooted back in February!
I do have 2 more seedlings in other places around the garden though, which are slightly smaller yet

>>840992
Yeah. It sure is neat. Your rosemary seems to be growing well too. I can't wait to get some cuttings done on my rosemary so I can grow more.

>>841013
My personal experience is that the low sun months are much better for cuttings of rosemary (and also sage)
Last year September I got rosemary cuttings to root in 10 days (pic) and in January sage in 4 weeks
I tried again to make some more of both in May this year - nothing happened at all
So I suggest you wait a couple more weeks to start them, or artificially reduce daylight exposure to 12 or less hours

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>>841017
Forgot pic. Actually, looking at the timestamp it was just 7 days for the first cutting to grow those roots

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>>837709
...and the first red pepper was picked yesterday, finally

>>841602
Very nice. Like 90% of mine start to rot just before they turn red.

Sucks that the outside, uncovered growing season is nearly over here.

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>>842939
Here we can start seeding winter stuff now
>tfw seeded corn salad a couple weeks ago, now I don't know which are the right seedlings and which are the weeds that also popped up

>>842958
whats corn salad?
95% sure all the ones with the jaggarded edges are just sow thistle (sonchus oleraceus)
small ones with pointed leaves look like a chickweed to me too.

but hey, im probably wrong on both counts.

>>842961
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerianella_locusta

>>842961
And yeah I'm also pretty sure about the chickweeds, and also galinsogas are sometimes popping up

>>842965
>galinsogas
Those would be what I was thinking may have been a nightshade (i was thinking solanum nigrum). Half way down on the left edge.

>>842964
Thought so after googling - but you can never be sure. Seeing as there looks to be about 6 different species there, I wasn't sure if "corn salad" was a type of leafy seed mix in some parts of the world.

>>842961
>>842965
Sonchus oleraceus is edible.
Chickweed is amazingly edible.

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>>842966
>solanum nigrum
Yeah they're also everywhere in the garden, especially on the now fallow potato field, but also pop up in the strawberries, tomatoes, peppers...
Thinking about cultivating them some time, as they're so undemanding, flowering until November, apparently resistant to potato blight and despite common misbelief, ripe fruits are nearly free of solanine, interesting taste (somewhat like a mix of grape and bell pepper, hard to describe)
So little info about them on the net though
Pic is one growing wild in a crack between tiles on my balcony last year, 3 meters above ground
>>842969
Yeah but this spot shall be dedicated to the corn salad, if I want chickweed etc there's plenty other corners in the garden I could farm from all year round

>>842969
Oh yeah they're both nice. I prefer to get rid of Sonchus though.
>>842970
>ripe fruits are nearly free of solanine
yep! I've heard if you can gather enough they make a nice addition to salads/ oatmeal(?) and other things. I dont know whether I would bother particuarly much with them though besides just picking off a few handfuls when they're around.
I would double check your identification though if you're even a little unsure, not worth the risk! (thankfully here in Aus its easy, as we dont have any similar looking nightshades - but ive heard thats different for the states, etc? assuming thats where you're from). Cute af pic too

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>>842970
>>842966
>solanum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanum_nigrum#Culinary_usage

I have some sort of Solanum in my garden too. It only got this big because when I was weeding I mistook it for the volunteer tomatilla right next to it. Then I let it get big just to see what it was going to turn out to be. Most likely Solanum nigrum. Here's some pics.

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>>842972
Europe, and that's why they got that bad reputation. Apparently some people confused them with the also native, butactually super toxic Atropa belladonna (doesn't help the latter one is also sometimes called "black nightshade"), but you'd have to be really stupid to confuse these two, the similarity is extremely vague at best

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>>842981
Even normal tomatoes were thought to be poisonous when they arrived in Europe due to belladona fruit looking similar.

http://www.rootsimple.com/2012/07/black-nightshade-solanum-nigrum-is-edible-and-delicious/

You have to remember that most people (oddly enough) have something I call "detail blindness". Meaning they actually don't see all the differences between a lot of plants, objects, things, etc. Which is why you get lots of myths, deaths, etc from eating wild things. Very few things in the wild that are poisonous actually look like edible varieties when you actually sit down and look at them properly.

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>>842980
>Most likely Solanum nigrum.

Seems to be "Solanum ptychanthum", now that I've sat down and fully identified it. Still as edible as Solanum nigrum.

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>>842987
Not exactly out but I guess you guys would know best:

When I dry my (halved) peppers in the oven, they kind of "roll" into thin sticks?
Is this normal? I thought they are supposed to look different.
How do I prevent this/what am I doing wrong?

>>842994
Yeah, that is normal because you sliced them. The same thing happens to apples when you leave the skin on them and dry them. The small sections of the apple slices that have mostly skin on one side and flesh on the other side will curl towards the flesh side. All fruits do the same thing, including peppers.

There's not much you can do to prevent that from happening if you want them sliced in that manner. You can cut the peppers into wide rings instead. It just depends on what you'll be using them for. If you are grinding them, just cut them however you want. FIY, that curling up can increase drying time.

>>843004
>FIY, that curling up can increase drying time.
Yeah, guessed that.
Thanks for the info. I will dry the next batch whole and see how that will work.

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>>842984
Oh I'm not much of an ID pro at all, especially not with apoids, they're arr rook arike for me and are really hard to tell apart so I don't even bother with anything I haven't personally planted
Parsley for example has been selected for curle leaves for exactly that reason too, to not confuse it with pic related

But again for S. nigrum vs belladonna, they're really easy to tell apart
>Fruit
The leaves hulling it are much bigger in belladonna (as apparent in previous pic)
Fruits are singular while in nightshade they form bundles
>Flowers
Belladonna's are pink, nightshade is white/yellow
>Leaves
B. is flat, S. is dentated, at least the variety growing here

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>>842958
In the meantime, I found and isolated the proper ones I wanted
Really tiny yet though at this stage

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>>843021
...and to make it easier for the 2nd batch, I did the good old potting soil trick

A couple of stupid questions:

Is it possible to grow a bonsai tree from a cutting of a regular tree?
How many watts per foot would be needed to grow peas and beans indoors?

>>843024
Some trees can be done with cuttings easily (willow), others not at all (oak)

>>842970
>>842972
>>842980
>>842981
>>842984
>>843020
Do you guys have any tips on how to tell the difference between Solanum Nigrum and Sunberries (Solanum Retroflexum)?

I used to assume all the plants growing wild around my city were black nightshade, until I grew Sunberries in my garden and noticed they looked exactly the same.

>>843011
That will take forever. If you don't have high enough heat and air flow they may start smelling like old gymsocks. If that happens, toss them out. In my area the climate causes that. If you live in a low humidity area you may have better luck with whole dried peppers. I had to get a big stainless steel dehydrator to prevent that.

>>843021
>>843023
I love seedling pics. I'm compiling a list and photos of ones around here so to differentiate wild and cultivated.

>>843024
All bonsai start as normal trees. The best varieties are those with naturally small leaves. However, some people do use large leaf variety trees. when they design how they look they take into account the large leaf and make it look like it is a cluster of leaves. It is a hard style to get right. You can start bonsai from seed, cuttings, layerings, or dig them up. The latter is the most common for quick bonsai.

I've no clue about lighting needs vs wattage. I do know that those two plants need full sun, so go with that in mind. That's around 100 watts of solar energy per square foot of solar energy, but I suspect lighting will need more to properly substitute full sun. Though the type of light (LED/Halogen/etc) will determine wattage.

>>843042
Solanum retroflexum have slightly fuzzy stems when compared to Solanum ptychanthum which has smooth hairless stems. Both are also referred to as Solanum nigrum and both are of course edible. A wide variety of various Solanum are labeled Solanum nigrum because they are so difficult to differentiate from each other.

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