knoife general

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>>826354

>TOPS

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>>826375

>>826375
grail knife

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mostly for fancy occasions but sometimes /out

>>826393
i own 57 knives but honestly those 3 are legit all you need. chuck an axe or a saw in there and you are set.

What do you guys think about this condor knife
https://www.amazon.com/Condor-Bushlore-4-375-Inch-Walnut-Leather/dp/B002CC6BPM/ref=sr_1_123?srs=7926256011&ie=UTF8&qid=1469803747&sr=8-123

>>826400
Hard to beat for the money anon, good workhorse.

does anyone know where to get a better handle for the ock RAT 5, like wood or something

>>826407
pretty easy to make your own anon

>>826398

I own 74 and you can skip the knife and the sak

The multitool is the only thing you really need

>>826412
yeah desu when i was in new zealand last year i had one fixed blade which i used for food prep and my LM wave was my only edc for 18 days. surprising how good it actually is.

>>826400

Fine

I like the look of the blade shape of the Bushcraft (4/5") better, but that's just me.

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is it even a good knife? like for stabbing sure, but would it be a good camping blade? its so fucking sexy i hunger for it

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what is the best bushcraft knife i can get for about 230$?

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Mai knaifu

>>826422

Google Pasi Hurtilla

>>826425
Canadian Belt knife!

How much did you get it for? I've been thinking of making one from some spare O1, I love the design of it

>>826436
was 80CADs + tax

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>>826422
Helle utvaer imo

>>826420
honestly i have heard so many people talk about those things breaking. they're cheaply made and then get a big price tag because usmc bullshit

>>826393
is that a helle or an enzo trapper?

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Is there any reason not to just use a pairing knife while out?

What are you guys doing that you require such large knives?

>>826457
Your pictured Wusthof is about the same length as my hunting knives but lacks any sort of belly, 1.4116 is a pretty lacklustre steel too.

>Would not /out/ / 10

>>826462
I just took a picture of a standard pairing knife. I don't understand why people need a specific knife for going /out/ if they already have kitchen cutlery.

Unless you are skinning an animal, what is the benefit? There has to be some reason because outdoors knife companies seem to have a larger market than just hunters.

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>>826354
Use you're ferro rods like pic related and you can start a fire and keep that edge sharp at the same time!

>>826467

1) Sheaths. Kitchen knives don't come with any.

2) Thicker blade stock so that the knife is suitable for harder use tasks than a paring knife.

3) Scandi grinds are better suited for wood carving, for people who focus on that.

4) Wanting steels with good toughness (rules out most ultra high hardness Japanese kitchen cutlery) and good heat treats (rules out most utter dogshit heat treated Western kitchen cutlery).

5) A desire for more hand filling high traction handles and better hand-guarded designs for hard use.

Should I continue?

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>>826467
Generally kitchen cutlery is made of pretty rubbish steel, low carbon, soft temper - unless people go out of their way to buy nice kitchen cutlery. It's nearly always thin stock and ground with a very shallow edge angle which is great for slicing kitchen duties, and would work well for game dressing purposes(blade shape is another matter) it's not exactly designed to be durable though and any sort of rough work will give the average kitchen knife a hell of a time.

So in short it's a combination of design, blade shape/edge angles and materials, highly stain resistant but soft steels, designed to handle the rigours of dishwashers and expected to be pulled through kitchen V notch sharpeners.

If you wanted a cheap outdoor knife you'd be better off with something like an Old Hickory from Ontario, a Dexter Russel or a Mora depending on your intended use. All of these have steels and HT better suited to rougher outdoor use, they're all also significantly lighter on average than similar sized kitchen knives if that's a concern.

>>826476
Thanks, but what exactly is the "rougher outdoor use." Personally the only time I use a knife while out is for food prep.

Are you telling me people are using stuff like this >>826420 to whittle?

>>826478
you need to stab bears /out/
your kitchen knife will snap if you attempted

>>826478
>but what exactly is the "rougher outdoor use." Personally the only time I use a knife while out is for food prep.
I think you've answered your own question to a degree, outdoor use depends on the person to a large extent. For me rougher outdoor use would generally consist of game prep, others like to practice firelighting skills or as you mentioned whittle objects.

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Jeff White, hand made bushcraft. Blade is 3/16 thick

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just bought this

i wish they had better knives at the store but it was either this or a bear grylls one

they had some leatherman ones but they were really small

>>826400
I have the same one and its great. The blade stays sharp and is really thick and durable. The leather sheath is also good as well.

>>826534
Where did you go? I have that same problem too. Dick's has a few Kershaws. Bass Pro has a decent selection and lots of CRKTs which I don't mind but they are a little expensive. And then there is a big gun shop I stopped in one day and they actually had a few Esees and other cool shit but very limited selection and prices were kinda high.

I want to check out more gun shops but when you go into them and aren't jerking off on the new Glock, the people working there are useless and no help at all. Seems like that at every gun shop I have been to.

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>>826354
Family photo

RAT 7 has seen wear and tear now since the photo was taken so

>inb4 doesnt /out/

Theres literally nothing wrong with the RAT that ive come across, and im more abusive then a trailer park stepfather after his footy team lost.

Also
>Post ACTUAL pictures of your knives not just stock google image results

>>826422
Go fallkniven S1

>Then tell me how it is because i want one.

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Heres a nice afteraction shot of the RAT 7 after a little while on a mountain. Only complaint i have is the fucking sheath, cunts fucked.

>"Kydex" insert doesnt firmy grasp the knife so it rattles
>Nylon
>The dropleg cord is a fucking shoelace

If you were to get this, source a proper molded kydex sheath/

>>826598
a place called mountain equipment coop

i was pretty dissapointed with the knives they had for camping there, i think i might have made a mistake getting the one with the serrated bit

>>826669
who make this?

What is the best way to sharpen a serrated knife?

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>>826692
ceramic rod

>>826478
>
generally i either like to have a smaller knife like a helle paired with an axe and an auger. while im out i use all of these things to build shelter and then make things like a chair and a bench.

as for bigger knives some people prefer not to carry an axe and dont require the precision of a small knife so they just use a kukri or something

>>826693
I think a tapered sharpening rod is what you'd need, not a ceramic straight one like that.

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>>826641
Decided to take a family photo.
on the left are my three most heavily modified blades and on the right are the 3 most recent blades which i have made myself.

>>826534
>at the store

there is always amazon

>>826842
i dont have time my trip is on wednesday

>>826534>>826598

I found a quite nice crkt at home depot for $20. It came shaving sharp out of the package. So far i have been testing it for EDC Tanto with about an inch of serrations 3.5 inches blade length. Very usable and for $20 i think its a great deal. CRKT is my favorite folding knife company

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>>826851
I just think CRKT has some of the coolest designs in that price range, especially for fixed blades. Kershaw has a lot of cool folders in that range but I don't see many fixed blades from them. Gerber doesn't have much that caught my eye and the Bear stuff is what you see most often. And then there is SOG with their tacticool stuff.

There are a few other smaller brands in the $25-$50 range but most of it is online and I prefer to see stuff like that IRL before I buy it.

>>826534
looking at the blade closer... jesus ch*st this shit sucks

it isn't even sharpened evenly

>>826457
Gr8 b8 m8

>>826845
plan....ahead

and sign up for a free prime trial for 2 day shipping

>>826672
that's upsetting, does that clean easily?

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What does /out/ think of the Ka-bar Crewman?

>>827146
>shit grip
>shit sheath
guess its "sharpened crowbar"

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bought it for the sheath desu

suggestions for a sharpening jig to use with various stones?

I guess there's always the cut-a-wedge-of-wood

>>826375
Dam she thicc...and heavy...and overpriced...and useless

>>826470
Fuck this meme just gets funnier every time

>>826845
Christ go to a hardware store like Lowe's or home depot. Tractor Supply is pretty gud too. Avoid harbor freight at all costs

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I'm getting pic related (8 3/4'') for camping / skinning small game and I was wondering if lockblades are good / bad at accomplishing the tasks I had in mind.

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Hey /out/ which 2 should I bring on my overnight solo in 2 days?

>>826381
gay

>>826381
What's wrong with that knife? Why does it have a giant hole in the blade?

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>>827506
Mora or victorinox or both.

>>827528
You put your finger in it.

>>827548
Why not just use a thumb stud like every single other reasonable knife? Why would anon drill a hole like that in his knife? It ruins a perfectly good knife.

>>827528
it is a sacred adonement, it's a portal, an opening through which all light, goodness, rejuvination, joy and ecstasy may enter the user's body

>>827554
So you're saying it's just a gimmick?

>>827553
oh gee billy, whats marketing? whats brand recognition?

>>827556
I used to be like you
then I realized that thumbstuds are not all powerful

>>827558
So anon didn't drill that hole himself? He actually bought a knife with a giant fucking hole in the blade instead of a simple thumb stud?

>>827553
It's hardly ruined and if you manage to break it you're certainly abusing the knife. It's quite smooth to use if the knife is easy to open. I like to flick it up with my middle finger, I find it less awkward than using the thumb.

>>827564

>being in a knife thread
>never seen a spyderco before

>>827494
its okay i think the knife is good enough for my trip, I'll but a better one later if this one breaks

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>>827089
Yeah mate, a few grades of sandpaper tidy it up just fine

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>>827580

is that metropolitan iceream or ur leg?

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>>827528
>>827528
>>827564

>>827500
generally i avoid folding knives when im hunting as you will most likely get blood and dirt in the mechanism.
small fixed blade would be better

>>827528
>>827553
>>827554
>>827556
>>827564

not sure if meme or not. strange space knife with thumb hole owner here.
hole is there as an alternative to the thumstud. many prefer it including myself. it's also brand recognition

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>>827692
i also carry another alien space thumb hole knife

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>>827664
is that uhh... what?

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>>826835
>Hnnnnnnged forged knives

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>>827664
ice cream!?

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>>827711
thanks dude. this is what i'm working on now. WW2 gurka kukri

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>>827714
>Kukri

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Here we are lads- my EDC

best sharpening system that can do things like mora scandi grinds?

preferably available on like amazon

>>827500
if you're only skinning rabbits and squirrel the problem of getting blood in the mechanism, isn't much of a worry.

>>827975

Freehand.

Scandi grinds are really easy to freehand because you have such a wide bevel to lay on the stone.

What types of stone(s) would be appropriate depends on how coarse or fine you typically prefer your edges.

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>>827973
>mjolnir
>paracord
>notepad and pen when you have a smartphone
>railroad spike looking thing
>tanto

>>827978
i have problems, my hands are shaky as fuck for fine tasks like that, so as much mechanical assistance would be preferred

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>>827664
>Metropolitan ice cream
It's Neapolitan you autist

>>827979
>Mjolnir
It's common for blacksmiths to wear Mjolnir, and I happen to like vikings a lot.

>Paracord
I use the bracelet to keep all my hair ties on, and also my watch looks kind of weird on my wrist by itself for some reason

>Notepad and pen when smartphone
Quickly drawing out project ideas or scribbling a quick note on paper is usually quicker than getting out my phone and unlocking it then opening the drawing/notepad then clicking "New" then tapping it out. especially so in the case of drawing an idea.

railroad spike thing is in there for my work. bottle opener and a little pry bar. I stonewashed it myself.

>tanto
"stop liking what I don't like"
It works well for opening boxes, which I do a fuckload of. Also I like how it looks.

>>827982
what wallet senpai?

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Todays pocket EDC. changes around from time to time but it's usually this. then i have some other less immediate things in my pack.

>>827987
Maxpedition CNC wallet. I think that's what it's called... It's got some nice little elastic pocket things on the inside

>>826422
If you need to ask that question the answer is Mora Companion carbon.

If you're going to buy an expensive knife make sure it has all the things you want. Otherwise the money is wasted. I'm not sure what other 'bushcrafters' are doing with their knives but the longer I use my Mora the more I feel I don't need anything better. There are some custom knives I'd like to have, but they all cost more than $230.

>>827990
>cell phone case with no phone
At least you will look important

>>828018
gee billy maybe he took the picture with his phone

>>826692
You need a special stone(s) for that. If you have a serrated knife maybe you should sell it to some retard and buy one with a plain edge. A Lansky kit I have has a stone for serrated blades, never used it since I have no serrated knives.

If you have no money, wet sanding paper can be used if you can find or make an object with the right shape. If you have an old plastic ruler just round the edge and use duck tape or similar to keep the sanding paper on place.

>>827980

In that case I'm fairly certain that the Edge Pro Apex is probably the only viable choice for a fully guided system that can go to low enough angles for Scandi grinds, which are typically done at around 10 degrees per side.

>>826420

Fine

I have a beater one that I've abused to all hell and back and it's still going strong. I baton anything and everything with it and it's held up.

Edge is good enough for shaving kindling

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>>826534
MEC is one of my favourite stores tbqh. Their prices are typically very competitive. I am kinda a gear nut though, so I typically don't buy stuff like knives, multitools, and flashlights there (although MEC actually does carry some decent flashlights). I'm assuming your Canadian, so id recommend Amazon. Start with a Mora companion, use it, see what you like about it/dislike about it, and make your next purchase accordingly.

t. Someone whose spent thousands on knives.

Pic related, just a thin sampling from the bunch.

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>>827506
Just the Mora IMO.

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>>827975
If you have the money, a wicked edge is a BEAST of a sharpener. Sharpened expensive customs when I first got the sharpener and it paid for itself in months.

>>828105

Unfortunately, I don't believe the WE can get to low enough angles for most Scandi ground knives (I.e. ~10 degrees per side( without buying the low angle adapter on top of the regular WE kit.

I would assume an Edge Pro Apex would be a more cost effective solution for this use case, since the standard EP can hit those angles.

>>828029
>>828105
>>828138
moneys not really a hurdle, i just want the sharpest i can get, so, which one is a better system?

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>>828148
I've never used the edge pro apex, but have some pretty extensive use on my Wicked Edge. I have never *so far* ran into a knife that I couldn't sparpen to my high standards. And the other anon is right about the edge angle. Idk if my w.e. would be able to sharpen a Mora to match the factory's edge, however if the blade was considerably larger, (I.e. the blade sits taller when mounted in the sharpener) I don't think it would be an issue. I chose to spend a little more on the w.e. because I wanted that dead accurate consistently, and I also wanted a dry sharpening system. The stones on the w.e. are diamond stones and will last you a lifetime (supposedly), where as the edge pro's system requires some maintenance to re-flatten the stones after they've gotten some use. Since I use my sharpener a lot, I like the benefits of the w.e. and the super quick re-sharpenings I can do once I have sharpener the knife once and have recorded the angles used.

>>827506
dont bring any of the flippy ones

>>828101
the guardian is one of my favorite knives, sucks that customs will rape me if I buy one from the US. How do you like it?

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>>828263
I think it's a fair value. I'm from Canada btw, the prices weren't terrible when I bought, even with the exchange and tax. The handles are a little rough around the edges, Espicially for the price of the knife. The sheath is pretty terrible also, but you can get upgraded sheaths afterwards, or you can also make one is you were able to. The blade shape is my favorite, and I like the steel a lot. Overall it's a nice knife for the money. It's a little rough around the edges (quite literally), and the sheath sucks, but other than that, it's a great knife.

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>>827982
ah dont pay no mind to the autists

/out/ has decayed to a point where its all about

>Muh mora
>Muh sawyer filters
>H-hamocks? REEEEEE

>>828269
that pic makes me moist, but I could never justify spending that much

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>>828274
I posted a free add online about "Knife sharpening services", plus I knew a couple custom collectors, so within a few months of sharpening, the sharpener paid for itself which was my initial plan.

>>826835
very nice mate

>>828288
care to share any more details?

apparently there is a place that does it within just a few miles but I can't find any other info on them

>>828334
I did it just within the GTA in Ontario. I haven't sharpened anyone elses knives as of lately because I've been busy with school.

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>>828269

Nice pic.

Here's one of my new M4 PM2. Reprofiled the edge to ~8-10 degrees per side freehand. It's finished on 16 micron CBN on suede.

About the Guardian, honestly I would expect better than a crappy sheath and poorly rounded handle at that price.

Most of the handmade knives I've bought have not had any issues like that at all, but I also don't mind the kinds of steels most small makers use.

>>828417

how hard would it be for me to learn knife sharpening, invest in a sharpener and clean up in the GTA?

>>828018
it was to show that i edc i smart phone. which can be quite handy when /out and /urbex.
i needed to use the phone to take the picture. I'm sorry that in doing so i triggered you.

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>>828270
>hole instead of thumstud? REEEEE
>expensive instead of budget? REEEEE
>Budget instead of expensive? REEEEEEE
>batoning? REEEE
>medium weight hiking? REEEE
>different gear to my gear? REEEE
>knives that aren't clean? REEEEEE
>knives that are clean? REEEE

... it goes on.

>>828417
I was talking more about pricing, who you advertised to

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Love me my boker in 1095

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>>826354

getting pic related, anyone have any opinions?

> total length of 10 5/16"

suggestions for metal polish products for getting that sexy mirror shine?

>>827482
bumping

>>828564
it's a shame to see older folders at sales...there was one over the weekend in the $0.25 box, but it was practically rusted shut

>>828569
2000 grid sand paper.
buffing compound

>>828566
Looks like a nice design for game.

>>828611

yeah I am mostly getting it for rabbits / coyote but also woodwerkn.

Got a Byrd Meadowlark in the mail today

Never had a Spyderco-style knife, and I wanted to try a cheaper version of such first

Seems solid enough

Lots of wasted metal due to the thumbhole, but it's not heavy anyway

Kinda prefer thumbstud openers and flippers, but I can see why people like these things

>>828629
lmao

I was JUST thinking about suggesting it since I recently got a few of them too. I definitely like it better than the cara cara; the blade size is just right. It's much closer to the delica, just with a lesser steel (which is still perfectly fine).

The lockbacks are not as easy to take apart, but they do lock pretty solid. I kind of wish they had better scale options though.

If you want something you can flick open, the frame lock style ones can do that pretty easily. If you want one of those I'd suggest the persistence or tenacious.

>>828641

It seems like a solid knife so far, and the price is good

The black handles (feels like polymer of some type) aren't bad

The belt clip seems like the worst part to me; it's quite obnoxious and sticks into your hand; it's small enough that you can just throw it in a pocket anyway, so I wouldn't use the clip when carrying it

It's razor sharp

The Hawkbill looks like a decent boating EDC knife; I use a serrated Mora for that at the moment, but something that can be thrown in a pocket looks quite handy

Yeah, the Cara Cara looks good; looks similar to the Delica in size, as you said

>>828579

Really? Any tips?

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>>828646
I think the scales are the same material as on the other models, but the texture is better. I think I bent the clip on the cara cara I used to use to make it a bit looser.

I meant the Meadowlark is about the same as the delica; the cara cara is essentially a larger version.

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>>828650
to compare

>>828641
Meadowlarks come in FRN, G10, Stainless and Titanium - there's not a lot of knives with more options than that.

>>828676
wtf....so if you want a metal one with screws you either have to choose the heavily marked up version or one only made with a partial serrated option

>>828649
glue 2000 grit to a wood block and sharpen like normal. then glue leather to another block and rub buffing compound into it (get the green stuff) and you'll have a mirror edge in no time

>>828694
orig anon here

I was talking about the entire blade, not just the edge

>>828697
right. in that case gut a buffing weel for a bench grinder or a drill attachment and green buffing compound. then buff

>>828692
wut

>>828701
duly noted

>>828702
the only two models with metal scales (and screws) are the titanium version (why anyone would require titanium scales I will never know) for $54 (from knifecenter) and the "black blade" version that is only available in a partial serration, for $27 (knifecenter or amazon)

the stainless steel version is only $23 but it cannot be taken apart....why the F should I have to pay twice as much for a fine edge that I can take apart?

>>826393
Enzo Trapper? What steel are you using?

>>826457
Steel, edge angle, also not ergonomic enough to use for hours on end

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I might get one of these
>AISI 425
>walnut handle
Is it worth it for 200 eur as a general outdoor knife?

>>828709
>part
What are you going to need to take apart a $20 knife for?

>>828709
>why anyone would require titanium scales I will never know
Because they're significantly lighter than SS but don't damage like Al, most of my knives have metal handles and if I can afford the Ti option, I'll go for it, otherwise the Al version.

>the stainless steel version is only $23 but it cannot be taken apart
You can't take apart the $65 Centofante either, still an awesome knife, haven't needed to take mine apart yet.

>>828739
the same reason you'd take apart a $200 knife, to properly clean and lubricate

>>828730

If you are paying 200 eur for a bland and unremarkable knife you have been taken in by marketing.

>>828745
Is it really that mediocre?

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Celling for BTC only on Steam

I'm thinking of getting a Camillus Cuda Carbo Nitride Titanium Knife for fishing/everyday knife anyone got any better suggestions or good experiences with this?

>>828751
not that anon but defo not what I'd consider an /out/ knife. I wouldn't carry because of that sheath alone - looks like it'll drop the blade if you even look at it funny let alone have it on your hip up down and over hills.

Looks more like a pairing knife, or a light edc knife.

Get it if you want but 200eu seems a bit excessive. You could buy 2 or 3 decent knives for that much.

>>828251
you just sold a wicked edge my friend, thanks for taking the time to elaborate on it,

>>828763
Then i'll get a more "bushcrafty" knife like a TBS Boar for 140 since it'll probably suit my purpose better anyway

>>828496

If you are buying a guided system it isn't really hard at all to learn how to sharpen with it.

Since you are in the GTA though, you should also consider taking the freehand sharpening class at the Japanese kitchen knife store in Toronto called Knife. They give a decent introduction to waterstone use freehand.

I bought a few waterstones from there, owner of the store is a good dude. He let me try a few of the store waterstones to see if I liked them before buying.

>>828569

Mothers Mag & Aluminum Polish on denim will give a mirror shine, but will polish the apex to the extent that there is little or no "tooth" or "bite" left in it, like a straight razor.

The only two ways to get a mirror polished edge bevel but still have an apex with some slicing aggression are to use waterstones to achieve the mirror (an ~8k-10k finish will still have *some* slicing aggression), or to mirror polish the edge bevel and then apply a microbevel at a higher angle using something like a Spyderco F ceramic or an Arkansas stone.

>>828791
>>828697

Whoops nevermind then. Replied before I got to this post. For whole blade buffing a paper wheel type set up is probably more sensible.

>>828494
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU I WANT THAT KNIFE FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

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>>828797

Knifeworks appears to still have some of their CPM-M4 PM2 dealer exclusive with CF handles available, if you want an M4 PM2.

It's not cheap though, the BladeHQ version with natural g10 was considerably cheaper.

I ordered one of each personally.

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>>828496
As the other anon said, it isn't difficult to learn proper sharpening technique on a guided system.

The main factor is time/knife. Since the w.e.'s stones are diamond, they will *never* wear out. So you don't necessarily have to worry about wear and tear on your system.

For shitty kitchen knives, the steel is extremely soft, and can be sharpened up nicely. I would charge $5 /kitchen knife, and if one was particularly large, I would increase the cost accordingly.

But for modern folding knives and fixed blades with some of the more advanced steels (S30v, s35v, s90v, s110v, m4, d2, 01 etc etc) it can take quite a while to sharpen out chips in the blade and such. So I would charge $10 ~ $40 a knife... Keep in mind though, some of the knives I sharpen cost >$2000. Always remember, it's easier to keep an existing client than find new ones, and the repeat sharpening are the best way to make money.

>>828757
I'd advise against that. I've read some bad reviews. Consider getting a Spyderco with the H1 steel. The H1 steel is "completely rust proof". It's been my primary fishing/swimming knife for years and no rust I'm site for me. Also it sharpens really easily. It doesn't have the same edge retention as VG10, 154cm, or s30v, but is darn good enough when you consider how short of time it takes to bring the edge back to razor sharp.

>>828767
Wow, where tf's my commission lmao

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I do good?

I'm from /pol/

Go easy on me

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>>828797
lolapalooza michael?

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>live in UK

>not allowed knives longer than 1 picometre

>>828807

nutin wrong but nutin fancy.

>>828727
Right, I forgot line cooks switched to ka-bar in the 50's. You honestly use your knife for hours on end while /out/?

>>828906

Oi mate, better clean your hard drive out before the bobbies catch you with pictures of knoifes on your "looky at nudie lady picture box" and ship you off to Austrailia.

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>>828906
Keep a stiff upper lip.

>>828906
are you american or just stupid

>>828954
>american or just stupid
that's redundant mate.

>>828912
If I'm doing fire prep, yeah I do use my knife for hours. It depends heavily on what else I'm carrying too.

>>828954
No, it's true. In the UK we aren't allowed knives that are 1 trillionth of a centimetre.

I was being completely serious when I posted that.

Dull cunt.

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>>828772
If the knife you wanted has good steel and the shape seems more useful than a traditional bushcraft shape then go for it. Don't be stopped by someone saying it doesn't look that good. What can one tell from the look of something? That said, the tbs boar is a fantastic knife. Brilliant steel (O1's little brother with fewer 'ingredients' like vanadium and chromium added). Great heat treat, comfortable handle, perfect thickness, good length, the edge geometry is a perfect compromise of strength and cutting ability. One gripe is that the k720 will rust even more easily than o1 in my experience so if you keep an oil pen and a cloth in your kit just incase it gets wet you will be perfectly fine. (Pic related, mine)

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another recent acquisition

feels cheap but it seems to be decently made

>>828998
You'd be surprised how many brits are fucking idiots. Also, 1 trillionth of a centimetre would be 10^-14, 1 trillionth of a metre = 1 picometre.

>>828998

You can own them, just not carry without a genuine reason

How is the Ontario SP2?

>>829071
One thing that does get me a bit nervous about the Boar is the edge angle because it looks very steep and like it lacks a bite

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>>828998
Of course we can - pic related

Do I carry them in the city? No. Would I carry them in the city if it were legal? No. Does the law constrict my gear lust? Yes. Does the law constrict me on a practical basis? Not in the slightest.

So stop being a whinging child.

>>829455
you can always put a micro-bevel on it to thicken the edge a touch. Any 0 degree scandi is pretty fragile and prone to rolling.

>>829462
I'm not concerned about the edge being too thin, i'm concerned about the edge angle being too obtuse and that it wouldn't bite very deep

>>829455
Yeah, I was concerned about the very same thing. But, when I used it, it worked surprisingly well. Not as well as something with the angle of a puukko, but still very good

>>829465
Then the grind is too shallow not too steep.

How thick is the steel stock? That's a large factor in it too.

>>829485
The steel is 4mm thick

>>827990
What is the short piece of metal in the top left corner used for? The one that looks like a cut down woodboring bit?

>>829071
>>829465
>>829486

Wait, wait, are you saying that knife is made of 4mm stock with THAT shallow of a Scandi grind?

Jesus, why don't you just hit whatever you are trying to cut with a fucking crowbar instead, it will be just about as effective!

Throw that useless brick away and go buy a Mora Companion (NOT the HD). It will literally be better at everything.

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>>829547
Why not the Mora Companion Heavy Duty? I have both myself, but wanted to get a stainless Companion because all of my other ones are carbon and they rust after a simple meal prep: s

>>829551

Two reasons:

The HD will not be much thicker immediately behind the edge than the regular version, and this will be equally susceptible to any type of failure that starts at the edge and propagates upwards.

Secondly, because a 2mm stock Mora is already easily strong enough to survive anything short of batoning, so making the blade thicker is just throwing away cutting performance for no reason at all.

Go ahead and see how many people online have managed to break the blade of a 2mm stock Mora who weren't batoning.

>>829562
It's usually the blade to handle junction that fail on Moras anyway. The 2mm versions are nice, not sure if I'd get on with a Scandi style grind on thicker stock.

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>>829562
>>829563
Just remembered I saw this today as well, check out this geometry. Looks like it'd make a decent splitting wedge desu.

>>829515
that is my Damascus Mjolnir.

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These are the two that I use most often when out.

>>829515
I think it's something to do with drumming. Used to tighten the skin or something? I'm a string fag so I've not used one myself.

>>829568

I should become a knife maker and get in on this idiotic "hard use" trend.

You could make that splitting wedge masquerading as a knife out of the cheapest martensitic steel available and have them heat treated by drunk spider monkeys and none of the customers would be able to tell the difference.

>>829568
what's that knoife?

>>829639
Damn, can I film these drunk spider monkeys attempting to work a furnace? I see the makings of a highly successful Youtube channel.

>yo dawg u got dat spider monkey knoife?!
>ya know I do! Haz burned fur stuck to it!

>>829551
Damn son, you fucked that cheese up. Legit.

>>827973
what's the pen?

>>829639

You're sorta right

The price of most "bushcraft" knives are way out of proportion to what you get

A BM Bushcrafter isn't going to do anything better than a Condor Bushcraft/Rodan, or even a Mora Companion (you won't break a Companion by batoning wood)

>>829785

looks like the hardcore hardware pen

>>829792
>s30v, 1075 and 1095/12c27 in different thicknesses.
Yea, they'll obviously equal at everything.

>>829819

No, certainly not.

Condor and Morakniv aren't clinically retarded enough to use a brittle steel like s30v in a supposed bushcrafting knife, nor to make one out of 4mm thick stock, nor to they have the audacity to charge $215 for an objective shit knife that a Mora Companion will BTFO at every single cutting task.

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My ZT just arrived yesterday. Took a while but Amazon finally delivered despite their price fuckup. Not bad for $55 I'd say.

>>829828
>Not bad for $55 I'd say.

Yeah, what happened? They accidentally listed it for $55?

>>829828
You fucking upside down EXIF-ignoring cocksucker 4chan

>>829829
yeah exactly

>>829832

that's pretty funny, grats on catching that

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>>829828
I ordered 2 during the price mishap, I called them the other day, and they said end in August maybe. Do you live in Ontario?

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>>829850
Also, can anyone name my two blades sitting behind my girlfriends legs?

>>829785
Almost looks like the Gerber tactical pen

>>829584
funny enough im actually also a drummer. but no this is not a drum key.

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>>828913

>>829852
victorinox soldier is the folder. as for the tan kydex sheath im not too sure. could be an esee

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>>829921
Yeah m8, it's an Esee 6!

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>>829584
>drum key
Nah, that's what I have on my keychain. In that one pic, it almost looks like certain strikers for fire steel.

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Svord drop point hunter for gutting/skinning wallabies and rabbits. Keep it razor sharp using 3000/8000 grit stone and a leather strop with 0.5micron diamond compound.

Leatherman skeletool cx for everyday everything. Keep it sharpish with an EzeLap ultra fine diamond steel.

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>>829967
Need to get a Svord one day, been eyeing this one for a while.

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Current EDC line up. Para 2 in M4 is SICK!

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>>830045
>2 leathermans
>2 folders
>goofy ass lighter
But where is your tactical sausage?
See >>829956

>>829977

They're pretty good for what I need. None of that 'tacticool' wank and it gets wickedly sharp. Handle and weight is ideal for game cleaning.

Don't have any experience with the quality version you posted but if the blade steel is the same you can't go wrong.

>>830048
Yeah same L6 steel, same grind pattern and everything else.

>>829584
>>829956
it's a mjolnir kids

>>829547
I don't know whether to laugh or cry because i'm gonna either end up getting the Boar or a Falky F1/A1 and i'll just sell it if i don't like it

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Hello, can someone please identify the knife in the picture and tell if its any good. Thanks in advance.

best knife for canoe or kayak trip?

>>829568
THICC!

>>829967
Those are breddy good pens.

>>830045
You carry 4 knives? Do you live near Nutnfancy or something and are hoping to bump into him for a gear check?

>>830168
Need more information m8. Do you bring a saw? What is the knife used for? Etc, if you've put any thought into it at all, these questions could help you succeed...

>>829582
Demo knoife? Those things are tits. Also, what is the other blade? Is that a sc/out/ carry sheath?

>>830157

Well, at if you don't need a Scandi grind specifically, at least the F1 or A1 has a much taller grind and shouldn't be quite as thick right behind the edge.

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In a few days I'm going to camp for weeks in the alps with hundreds, maye thousands of hippies.
I don't know much about /out/ things, and I want to keep my expenses as low as possible. I bought a tarp, planned to get a sleeping bag somehow, and made myself a knife.
I took an old pair of pruning shears, sharpened and lengthened the blade, replaced the missing hinge with an old bolt and nut.
I thought it would be useful to be able to use it as a knife and as shears.

What do you think ?
Also, should I make myself a sheath and carry the knife part alone ?

>>830233
oh yeah, made the handle too. Drilled a hole of the rough shape of the metal part, hammered the wood over it, and added a screw in the hollow of a S shaped curve on one side of the iron (like is kinda visible on the other part under the shoelace). Then shaped it.
I don´t think the screw touches the iron, so it is probably not useful to keep the blade and handle from moving, but it's hammered in tight.

>>829850
Alberta. Hope yours arrive soon anon.

>>830233
lmao @ that bent top down pic of the "knife" cool but just spend 10 bucks on a mora

>>830211
I've tried the F1 today because a friend has one, and i'm now wondering why anyone would want one, it lacks any distinct bite, handle is uncomfortable because the "diamond" shapes and it's sooo heavy for a 4" blade, i'll just get the Boar or some other decent priced "bushcraft" type knife, maybe i'll order a Pekka and just wait the 6 months

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Whats your excuse for not owning the greatest knife created by the gods?

>>830450
Is that first inch supposed to be a ricasso, choil or just a waste of blade?

>>830450
it doesnt look like it would be good for the things i need it to do
hows that excuse?
>dat ricasso
top kek

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>>830450

>>830455
>>830462
>>830465
>implying ricasso is a bad thing
when would you ever need to cut that close to your hand ?

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>>830467
>when would you ever need to cut that close to your hand ?
>cut that close to your hand
this has to be bait, right? right!?

>>830471
typical trip not answering questions

>>830467
Ummm the first inch is only the part of the blade that can apply the most force and accuracy, but yeah you never need to cut that close. A few mm's of ricasso is good for sharpening, but anything over a quarter of a cm is too much

>>830402

Just try to find a bushcrafting knife that isn't overly thick. 2mm at the spine is plenty for a Scandi ground knife.

Worst comes to worst, you could literally get a Mora, meme though it is.

What's a good hard use spyderco under a $100

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>>830450

Why do those cost thousands and thousands of dollars? I have a couple of the maxpedition knives that have the similar style and find them to be kinda shitty ergonomically.

>>830467
>when would you ever need to cut that close to your hand ?

https://youtu.be/juFHJbFi49k?t=305

get learned, son.

>>830516

Define hard use

The Salt Water series is good if you are talking about water

Delica and Endura are find for basic pocket knife stuff

Folders aren't really good for "hard use"

>>830568
True , its a gift for someone and their a trademen

>>828807
I like the general looks of it, but don't like ricassos anywhere near the working edge. I like an edge that uses the full length of the knife and has a consistent grind all the way along the blade. If not for the ricasso, I'd very much want one of these.

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>oil it they said
>It will develop a gradual patina they said
>Patina is developing in a fingerprint pattern from where my fingers touched the blade and rubbed off the oil
Help

>>830574
https://youtu.be/RLZD7aaxDfc

>>830233
doesn't want to spend money

will probably spend $100+ on weed from the hippies

>>830618

rub it. cut a bunch of citrus, rub it, repeat

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I'm the only one here that owns a BORR?

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>>830289
Thanks man, me too!

>>830516
>>830574
Manix 2.

If they can carry fixed, an Enuff is just over 100.

>>830621
Probably, if I wanted to spend money. And if I enjoyed weed, and if that gathering didn't make it a point to avoid drug and money use.
But it's not the case.

>>830761
must have gotten a 2nd hand high, cause none of that made any sense

>>828650
how do th byrds compare to the normal endura/delica? of course the steel composition, but is there really anything else? Debating getting a Cara Cara while waiting for a neato sprint run endura

>>828725

Yeah, I went with the 01. It's alright.

>>830803
the scales are a bit different, but otherwise they're pretty close...the more expensive ones might be a tad smoother...I haven't had any issues with not locking solidly though

the cara cara is about $1 more for another 1", but I'm liking the size of the meadowlark

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>>830618

use mustard. Just cover the whole blade in it, leave it for 10 minutes, clean it off. Repeat as necessary. Pic related.

>>829568
Who makes that knife?

>>830233
So you're making some of your own gear to avoid losing money if it gets stolen by the aforementioned Hippies? Smart.

>>830743
Thanks , they refuse to carry fixed

>>830495
implying i don't own literally 4 moras and a convexed bahco and am getting another one to regrind to FFG for shits and giggles, i just want a knife for the meme value since i already own a puukko, i'm just curious if the woodlore design is as good as they say

>>830648
That looks suspiciously like a Pohl Force Kilo One

>>830810
I heard that the blade bites poorly compared to most "bushcraft" knives like Moras

>>830833
That's one of the expected advantages. But mostly it's because I currently travel around with just a small suitcase which I sometimes take on planes. In cabin cause it's cheaper.
So any knife I get must be expendable enough to give it away before my next flight.

>>829640
>>830832
Gravelle knives

>>830889
>"I believe in American exceptionalism"
What a moron

>>830849
a, some second hand subjective opinion on an ill defined metric of 'bite', must be true eh.

>>830959
I never said it's true, i personally don't care since i have no intention of getting an Enzo Trapper for unrelated reasons

>>830959

Well, seeing as the Enzo Trapper has 3.5mm blade stock vs 2mm blade stock on a Mora Companion, I don't see why you would be surprised at its inferior cutting ability (I.e. "bite").

Thinner blades with similar height grinds will definitionally be thinner behind the edge and thus have higher cutting ability.

>>831021
I do not disagree with that, as that is actual logic and not ''some guy said - ''

Are the bevel heights the same on both knives?

Are they both equally sharp?

fwiw I'm not a fan of Enzo knives

>>830849

Works pretty darn well for everything I used it for. I reckon I must keep my edges a bit sharper than most because I've had that and a TBS Boar as mentioned above and also called out for having a shallow grind and not biting as well. Both seemed to function just as well as, if not better in carving than either of my thinner Moras.

My only criticism of the Enzo trapper was it having a fantastically sharp spine which can really do a number on your thumb in certain carving scenarios.

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Hey /out/ i'm trying to get a new knife, i'll be using it for hunting and skinning and generally outdoor shit

so can you give me an option that isn't garbage?
price is irrelevant

i've been thinking about the buck 119, is it a solid choice?

>>831079
Well in that case i will most definitely get a Boar since it seems to fill out all the check marks i want it to, i might end up comparing it to my puukko

>>831087
More info would be great, but go with something small, a sub 4.5" blade will do you good, Fällkniven F1 is supposedly a bad choice but the WM1 seems to be pretty good, Bark River are great all-round knives if you have $300 or more to spend, the 119 will do you good, there's thousands of designs out there, go to a store, handle some knives and look at the different materials and competitive options and then decide.

Can ananyone recomend a good fleshing knife? It will be used for goat skin if it matters.

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New (old) knife I got, it says BELL HI-CARBON on one side, and on the other it says Pakistan. Anybody know the brand?

>>831095

I reckon you'll be pretty happy with it. I kind of wish I'don't bought another one to replace the one I lost but I mouth to a Trapper instead.

>>827973
not meaning to shitpost but why 2 mjolnir? if your not showing it off I think its pretty awesome to have one, just wondering why the hell have 2 and where the hell you keep 2 on your person for edc

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>>830450
>Whats your excuse for not owning the greatest knife created by the gods?
>stock photo

Every time

>>830450

because the knife you posted is actually shit?
How's that for a reason?

>>831570
It looks like it's got at least an inch of non useable blade, wtf would a person think this was useful?

>>831331
>it says BELL HI-CARBON on one side
>it says BELL... on one side
>on the other it says Pakistan
>Anybody know the brand?

Are you for real?

>>831592
why?

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>>831608
Many knives have the maker and location stamped on the blade. If Pakistan's the location then the maker's fairly obvious. Not that it matters much anyways since Paki shit is almost universally terrible.

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Just bought this bitch, did i do gud?

>>831661
Nah uh. Superman does good, you're doing well.

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>>831669

>>831661
It's a good budget knife, not the best on the market, but a great choice for a budget woodlore design knife

>>831661
A knife named condom ?


"the only 100% effective birth control method"

>>831741
I kek'd

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Am I wrong?

>>831811
Pretty much but I think the point of diminishing returns is far before $250. Closer to $100.

>>831811
Also you have the axis(es?) wrong. $$$ should be where quality is.

>>831811
Looks decent to me. I have a couple knives that cost about $150 but my favorite user was about $70, and that's for a fixed blade. One of my $150 knives is a folder but the most I've paid for a folder that I actually use was like $30.

>>831661

Good enough for anything you need for a bushcraft knife

>>830402

I have a F1 and a Chink copy of the F1

The Chink copy is better due to the cheap grind

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These two are generally what I use on a day to day basis. The CRKT seems to hold an edge pretty well.

>>827979
I know im replying to bait but anyone who works in things like construction/out type jobs have an actual use for pen and paper.

>take phone out to record some measurements
>drop it in concrete
>fugg

>take notepad out
>drop it in concrete
>nothing of value is lost

also if you start pulling a phone out on a job site you'll look like an actual autist

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>>831862
This guy gets it. Please sir, I would like to gift you this wonderful Golden Orb Weaver that I found while /out today. Don't spend it all in one place.

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Victorinox master race

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>>831816
Oops good catch

>>831862
Especially if they see your anime wallpaper

>>831877
>the first to die

>>831878

that's wrong. The chart should be a quadratic function, to show diminishing returns - ie a 200 dollar knife is only slightly better, than a $100 one (and i carry 200-250 dolaryddo blades on a daily basis, so i'm speaking from experience here).

>>831936
>you need to carry a full length ka-bar everywhere you go because reasons

>>831741
not sure if srs... but it says condor

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>>831937
Tru, point of inflection at (x=100) which is where the diminishing returns begin imo

>>832307

why the point of inflection though? Just a simple quadratic function with price on the Y axis, and quality on the X axis.

The way you drew it, implies a big increase in quality for a small increase in price below $100, and it really doesn't work that way.

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>>831862 <<
^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>831422
I forged one, and the other I've been wearing every day for like three years so I can't bring myself to stop wearing it.

>>829785
>>829802
Yeah, it's one of Hardcore Hardware Australia's pens. The one without the little silly touch screen stylus on the end.

This is my stuff. I don't think I could conceivably need anything else.

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>>832371
Oops.

>>832371
>>832373

except some actual quality

>>832435
Like?

>>832435
>>832511
I suppose I should be more specific, what's wrong with what I have currently?

>>832513

to be fair, my only real gripe was that rambo wannabee fuckhueg knife at the top - it's 120% silly.

Functionally, the other two are not bad at all. You might want to get something high end because nice things are nice, but that's pretty much it.

>>832519
Fair enough. That fuck huge knife is a Bowie, I only use it to cut through foliage and other big annoying things.

Are muelas good, i was thinking if getting a scorpion. Its 50 euros in shop?

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>>833171
Scorpion 18n

>>831862

I'm all for this. Plus best thing about pen and paper, you can write shit down and then hand it off to some one.

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Who else here makes their own?

>>833602
>Who else here makes their own?
>open image
>maker's rollmarks on the side

Making a handle =/= making a knife. Still, that looks pretty nice.