Primitive Technology

YES!

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Holy shit this guy is a genius. Can't wait to see what that giant mud thing is being used for.

Highlight of the week for me, familia

I don't come here often, but its nice to see people on a board not hating on a youtuber.
this is literally the first time i've seen this happen on 4chan where you all like him.

just look at what's happening to a book reviewer on lit right now:
>>>/lit/8326097

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>>825151
Microchips when?

>>825173
To be fair Primitive Technology does the exact opposite of all of the annoying youtubers. He lets his work speak for itself, no need to insert his opinions or "marketable personality".

>>825165
>Can't wait to see what that giant mud thing is being used for.

That should be a bloomery. It means he's planning on getting usable quantities of iron.

He should really just cut to the chase and build a working steam engine out of twigs and mud.

That or out of all the iron he's going to be refining.

>>825151
Im honestly convinced the dude who makes these viseos is the poster of these threads... Nobody in their right adult mind would get excited this hard over some white aussie playing in fucking mud.

>>825180
are you kidding me?
the man is everything i want to be

>>825179
Technically, the first things he needs to make a blacksmith's tools. Like hammer, spike, tongs, anvil, all made of metal and all made in that order. From there you are off to the races, so long as you have a good supply of iron. Getting the iron is a pretty monumental chore.

>>825180
Do you have disappointed parents in your life, kid?

>>825180
He's the very embodiment of /out/ itself.

Shit I'd rather have him shill his videos than some of the shills on /v/. Because at least this guy doesn't post his videos every fucking day.

>>825184
I've been trying to figure out what the easiest form of engine is to make with simple tools.

Obviously, he could make a watermill, and use that to power shit.

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>>825173
See
>>825175

>>825180
Op here, I've made the past two and I can assure you I'm too lazy to be him.
Stop being salty and enjoy his comfy vids.

>>825202
It's pretty hard to make it run properly, you need to align everything properly and grease the gears.

Maybe this is less of an issue if he makes a small one though.

I honestly didn't expect him to start smelting bog iron. Since his channel name is Primitive Technology I figured he'd just use stone tools forever.

>>825205
I dunno, I think if he made some basic woodworking tools he could get a small one going.

Nothing tremendous, but enough to run the bellows on his furnace or make weaving fabric a lot easier.

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>>825208
Well so far he only succeeded in making tiny amounts and next time he needs to layer more iron to actually get a bloom

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>>825211

>>825180
>Nobody in their right adult mind would get excited this hard over some white aussie playing in fucking mud.
Assmad negro detected.

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>>825205
>>825202
>>825210
A water wheel or windmill. The former being better for power stability.

You can make wood cogs and lantern gears easily enough. They don't' need to be massive either.

>>825233
What I've been wondering is whether there's any kind of coal powered engine he could reasonably build.

But yeah, watermill will go a long way.

>>825212
>dat massive hammer
>no ear protection

>>825211
>>825208
I Think next episode will be for:
>>825165
That's probably the larger furnace design he talked about in his blog/the video description.
It looks like it's still curing, but that spacer underneath is definitely for air intake; I'm just wondering how he'll keep it supplied with oxygen, as this blower probably won't cut it.

i know he'll need a crucible at least and i'm stumped on how he's going to do then.

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>>825236
ear protection is for people who can still hear anon

>>825235
You mean like a clay-based one or one made from the pig iron?

The stuff he needs to build are things listed in the Gingery books series. With enough iron, he can make an entire machine shop housing "modern" tools. He can build pretty much anything then.

But, he doesn't have enough iron resources to do that.

>>825241
Either or.

I want him to eventually get to something totally silly like electric lighting or a refrigerator or something

Although pot in pot refrigerators are actually easy to make.

>>825238
It is a Bloomery and uses forced air from the chimney to feed itself. Pretty old smelting tech. The device he made and showed in the video is a forge for working metal, not smelting.

>>825241
>But, he doesn't have enough iron resources to do that.
He's in the NT or North QLD (haven''t figured out which yet), he should be able to get his hands on some ore.

>>825243
Got you, still I thought to melt iron you'd need way higher temps than what an unpowered furnace could provide.

>>825208
>I figured he'd just use stone tools forever

Well, with as much iron as he should be getting, the best uses for it will be stuff like a knife. He could do arrowheads too, but there's no need for that since he can make those out of other materials and be effective enough at bring in food.

But a knife and axe head would be the best uses for keeping things as low tech as possible. The instant he starts making a metal hammer, spike, tongs, etc then he's going way past primitive tech.

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>>825236
0:22

https://youtu.be/OVmF6Nsf77Q?t=21

As you can imagine anchor smith was not a job for the faint of heart.

>>825246
I believe even natural draft will work under the right circumstances.

/out/ists might enjoy this vid too.

Hand powered bellow at 12:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3rjjpuhCLI&feature=youtu.be

>>825246
The draft will be enough. He technically can make sponge iron with a bloomery. The next step is a blast furnace like you are thinking of and is what he used in the video to make tiny pig iron pellets.

He'd basically smelt in the bloomery to get sponge iron then use that small forge to make pig iron and anything else he wants to do.

>>825249
Yeah, I have built a few forges before and worked with blacksmiths. No one but me wore ear protection. I couldn't even take a single hammer blow ring on an anvil. It is amazingly loud and ear destroying.

>>825253
You don't got to music festivals enough bruh.

But yeah I agree kind of, metal on metal ringing really gets me.

>>825240
Did you just make that pic?
>>825248
>The instant he starts making a metal hammer, spike, tongs, etc then he's going way past primitive tech.

I guess it would defeat the purpose of his channel but it would be cool to see the progression.

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>>825257
maybe

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Am I the only one who binges his videos every time there's a new release?

>>825258
Sweet

>>825262
We all do that.

Load up that shit on a tablet as you're drifting off to sleep, and it's maximum comfy mode.

>>825265
Put those on while playing those comfy recordings from those audio general thread fags.

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>>825151
really amazing, now build a sword and do a crusade

>>825262
I have my laptop on a hospital table so I can watch shit in bed without sleeping on top of a laptop/tablet.
PT is in my comfy playlist.

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>>825269
>Dues vult
>>825270
next level max comfy

>>825271
Dunce vult for you

>>825208
in the description for his charcoal video, he does imply he intended to use it for working metals since charcoal was kind of overkill for just cooking food.

>>825248
>>825257
If he can get enough, he might also consider making some primitive cooking wear since that should be a better conductor and cooking surface than his stoneslabs, open fires, and such while still remaining 'primitive' technology, right?

>>825279
So I I transposed two letters, sue me.
>>825289
Whatever he has in mind I know he does his research. Looking forward to seeing what he comes up with next.

>>825180
>white Aussie

Buttmad abo detected. Are you rustled that this average white Aussie had made more technological advances in a year than your people made in 40,000?

>>825310
hahahahhahahhahahah
this desu

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>>825180
Fuck off, abbo

>>825244
>He's in the NT or North QLD (haven''t figured out which yet)
He mentioned it in comments several videos ago. North Queensland.

>>825165
its metal, FUCKING METAL MAN

>a single white guy in australia has just entered the fucking iron age

>africa

>>825248
he cant go hunting for food

>>825165
Watertank

>>825255
Im a Carpenter and even a hammer against a pry bar is too much.

>>825339
>there is no genetic deficiency holding them back
>it's the evil white man holding them back.

>>825151
He's made tile, when's he gonna move on to bricks?

>>825151
I really liked the progression from fanning the flames to full on blower with fan

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>>825380
WE

>>825339
Igbo invented Iron by themselves

>>825180
>Im honestly convinced the dude who makes these viseos is the poster of these threads
I don't think that's too farfetched. After all, something like 1 in 10 Aussies is a 4channer, and I doubt old fucks and toddlers use the internet, so that number jumps up to 10/10 Aussies in his age group.

>>825403
WUZ

Can someone explain this a little to me? I thought iron was naturally occurring, was introducing the charcoal to the top him making steel, as in using the bits of iron in the clay and introducing carbon?

The man has skipped bronze age. Hes now technologically superior to aborigines. The man is on iron age now. Soon he will have steel knifes. Then black powder. Industrial revolution soon. Agriculture. In a few years time he will have computer and then he will shitpost on /out.

When can we expect him to tan leather and build a watermill operated bellows?

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>>825431
Look at this finn.

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>>825310
Kek
>>825339
>woo loo loo

>>825420
KANGZ

>>825328
Read his faq m8
https://primitivetechnology.wordpress.com/about/
He's from Far North Queensland

>>825151
Kek I just came from the thread on /pol/
Love this guy

>>825450

I don't think he can hunt the area he's in because it's owned by a farmer

>>825484
Kek, I just found this thread on /pol/
I'm the anon that said I had just come from /out/

His vidsv are max comfy and it's actually neat that he doesn't talk. He explains why and it's annoying when comments ask him to talk. That's one of the reasons why it's so great, he lets his work do the talking.

>>825451
Does he have videos?

>>825490
It's a she..

>>825492
Well does she have videos?

>>825493
He has a deviantart

http://jarkko1.deviantart.com/

>>825492
Jarkko is a mans name.. It's he.

>>825499
>a mans name
Keep your gender-normative bullshit on /pol/.

>>825500
Funny
But seriously it says 25/male/finland in his deviantart page. Don't know why some1 said "she"

>>825502
He will succeed at whatever he puts his mind to.

If at first he fails he will try again and again until he gets it right.

The only real question is if he is going to start to cheat a bit and bring in iron or other materials from the outside.

Do you think he is going to start cheating.

I mean he obviously has a tremendous work ethic but the ammount of charcoal he is going to need is huge. He has proved he can make it himself so surely getting a few bags at the hardware is the next step.

>>825506
He proved with the grass hut that he is capable of doing extremely repetitive tasks for long periods of time.

He could probably make a huge pile of charcoal.

>>825506

I don't think so, he built his house over 2/3 of a year so if he has to make a load of charcoal and it'd take forever he'll probably just to other small things like tools between videos

>>825506
I dont think hes willing to cut corners. Don't think he wants to stand next to his achievements and think"yea I cheated there a little bit"

>>825506
>>825507
>>825508
i have a suspicion that one of his reasons for doing this kind of stuff is getting away from the " just buy it" mentality

>>825180
>Im honestly convinced the dude who makes these viseos is the poster of these threads... Nobody in their right adult mind would get excited this hard over some white aussie playing in fucking mud.

Meanwhile the video has nearly a million views already

>>825184
I can see hammer but why spike at no.2? Tongs should be 2.

>>825310
This desu

>still clean shaven

cmon PT, my immersion can't take it

>>825547
>implying he doesn't shave with a self-made stone razor

>>825547

He's got a real job too

>>825552
I understand, but in his videos he looks like he literally shaved with a razorbalde before filming

that doesn't make his videos less great of course, but in the era of """"lumbersexual"""" posers who never saw a forest it would be nice to see him sport some facial hair when he builds houses and furnaces out of mud

just a nickpick I guess

>>825252
good vid

>>825547
>wearing shorts

muh immersion

>>825559
ugh, you see the bark fiber mats he's made so far? try to imagine needing to wear those for a fucking weekend then you tell me if you wouldn't just say "fuck it".

>>825506
>>825507
>>825508
>>825520
>>825518
Closest I recall is that he did buy some sweet potatoes in his garden plot video.

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>>825506
He could just make a bigger charcoal burner. The one he showed was pretty small. One burn like in the pic and he would have enough charcoal for a year.

>>825568
He'd have real legal issues starting a massive charcoal burn in Australia, private land or not.

They have very strict laws about fire safety because of the bush fire danger.

>>825570
I doubt they would even find him or notice the burner. There's a lot of nowhere in Australia.

It's not really that dangerous either if you make a cleared dirt ring around it like in the pic. The one in the pic isn't even particularly big.

>>825568
He's not starting a steelmaking industry. Just showing off neat /out/ shit on youtube for patreon shekels

>>825572
>for patreon shekels
That is unfair. He only started the patreon recently and he doesn't advertise it much.

>>825151
1.2mill views since yesterday

>>825506
Making charcoal is actually really fucking easy.

>>825538
A spike makes holes in metal for all sorts of tool making. Everything from arrow heads to tongs to needles and the anvil itself.

>>825570
An open fire is more dangerous than that thing. However, there's no need for something that large since this is primitive tech, not steam engine tech. He doesn't need to process 1 ton a iron ore.

>>825571

They'll notice when a video goes up with millions of views of an Australian man doing a massive illegal burn

>>825451
So it is steel? Also why add ash in addition to charcoal?

>>825609
Ash is a flux. Flux are added during smelting to remove impurities from the metal.

>>825609
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_(metallurgy)

>>825613
Alright that's what I thought. Pretty neat.

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Hammer
>Rock
Anvil
>Rock
Tongs would certainly be useful but I think everyone fails to grasp just how time consuming it will be to make larger iron objects. Simply grinding out a large amount of consumable wooden tongs to make one implement will save ridiculous amounts of time long run. And with everyone saying he should make a knife honestly that's a stupid thing to have with what PT does generally. I would think IF he can actually make a half pound of iron or so first on his list should be a stick tang axe. It's the most efficient tool you could possibly make. AND if he makes something with a sharp edge, he will still have to carbonize the iron, which requires holding the object at red heat for over 24 hours.

Holy shit I've been waiting for this for years

I do not want to discredit him, but with the size of the channel I could imagine, that he has a crew now helping him along with these crazy endeavours.

>>825679
A wooden hammer and stone anvil are all you need for making your first tool, a metal hammer.

You need to be able to go from one material to another in order to make better tools and devices. You don't use rocks for hammer forging, it is the wrong material for forging. It breaks up very quickly and tends to shatter in ways that can injury you permanently. Wood, while lessening the impact of the strikes, will still perform well enough and hold together long enough to make the first metal hammer. The anvil can be stone, only because it can be very large and tend to not shatter like a stone hammer does.

The reason you don't make wooden tongs is because they go up in flames extremely quickly when holding hot metal. The wood hammer doesn't since it just bounces off quickly, heat transference is minimal. By "hammer" I mean a round log. You don't need to make a nice mallet for this type of thing.

A metal tool head with a hammer for the face and the axe for the peen would be best. You get a tool you can forge with and work wood with. Carbonizing the iron isn't really needed with an axe. It is best for sure, but soft iron can hold a well enough edge for long enough that it isn't that much of a problem sharpening it now and then.

>>825715
Highly doubtful.

Only making the grass hut would be patience and time consuming to the point of, "fuck this". And, that is pretty much nothing.

>>825165
That's the kiln he used to make the tiled roof hut, dingus

Accurate summary of my timeline watching this video
>oh huh, that's pretty neat
>oh wow now he's making a housing for it to direct the air, that's neat
>oh man, adding a bow to it to make it even easier, what a lad
>wait what is he doing with that weird colored mud- oh
>OH
>ABSOLUTE FUCKING MADMAN

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>>825151
Seems to me that if you want to be king of the forest, there are 2 primary skills you need to be able to just goinawoods and do:

Make Cordage
Make/Use clay

everything else is just sticks and stones!

>>825868
Good observation and very true. I would add,

Knapping
Hunting
Food preservation

>>825805
same kek

>>825489
he's on /sci/ and /diy/ too.

>>825757
Its far bigger than that and the mud isn't dry, dingus

So the stream by my house is full of iron in the form of iron-rich sand, which is easily mined by dragging a magnet through the creek. When I was a kid, I threw a crucible full of the iron sand in the fire, hoping to smelt some metal. Of course it didn't work, so I gave up.

This video has renewed my interest in primitive metalurgy. I might have to go make myself a forge now.

>>825913
You can typically get pretty good results with a simple air blower, some kind of heat reflecting container, and charcoal.

Propane and electric arcs work too. Firebrick is your friend.

Does anyone know what kind of clay he's using? Is he just getting mud out of the stream, or is he refining it in some way?

>>825165
Compost bin

>>825917
For the iron, he's been using bacterial sludge that's rich in biological iron.

>>825921
That's not what I was asking (I was wondering how he refined the clay to make the forge itself), but that's very interesting. I've seen that orange sludge before, and always wondered what it was. Figured it was some sort of pollution--I had no idea it was natural.

>>825939
He just uses clay heavy soils and beats the shit out of them with rocks.

>>825151
we iron age nao?

>>825556
>just a nickpick
Ya think? You have a beard fetish or something? The point of his videos is to showcase techniques.

>>825609
It's like you didn't even read his description.

>>826014
To be fair, Primitive Technology guy does go barefoot and shirtless, which are both impractical given his fair skin and the general dumbness of being barefoot in the bush, so he is obviously making some effort at matching his physical appearance to the more primitive state.

>>825715
It's all him. If he had a crew he'd release videos a lot more often and his filming would be different.

>>825805
It was fun watching the progression.

>>825883
Haven't been to /diy/ in awhile. Didn't know that was a /sci/ thing.
>>826024
I think you're reading way too much into it. The guy isn't deep in the bush. He's just doing his thing on his friend's land.

>>825202
It really depends on your resources and location. Watermills are great if you have a big and strong enough stream. I personally think that animal driven mills are awesome, but many people (including myself) do not have a donkey/mule/draft horse/ox.

>>825180
You are just mad because he is living proof that whites beat the negroes to the iron age.

>>826052
I had a German shepherd dog I trained to sled logs. I'm sure it'd be easy to train a dog to happily run around in circles or run in a wheel.

However, with enough cordage and lantern gears he can make a gravity weight to drive the bellows. Just lift a stone when it gets to the bottom to reset it.

>>826024
Going barefoot feels nice, makes you more aware of whats on the ground, and is quieter. He's not trying to make a statement.

>>826059
anyone good diagrams? sorry im a newfag

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>>826069
Presumably something like this.

>>826078
god idk what turns me on more: your handwriting or your diagram

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>>826069
I don't. Just look up pulleys, gears, cogs, and lantern gears. It is pretty old tech, but the new stuff like the "Gravity Light" are still being done. It is the same thing in a grandfather clock that uses weights.

>>826078
>>826079
kek very bad gearing ratio, but yeah.

>>826062
>He's not trying to make a statement.
Of course he is. He wears the exact same thing in every video.

>>826092
There wasn't even a gear in that diagram, just a drum on an axle, with a rope spun around it.

I'm left handed...

>>826093
That's because jeanshorts are cheap.

>>826059
That is genius. I remember reading in an old book about how the early settlers of Virginia would use a section of log on the end of an angled pole to pound corn into flour and grits.

>>826094
Yeah, which is why it has bad gear ratio, it is a joke, but not about your art skillz.

>>826104
It's not genius. I always have to remind people that "old tech" doesn't mean "no tech". Newer technologies only replace old ones for economy of manpower, energy, or material. Not because older technology didn't get a jobdone.

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>>825180
buttmad darkie detected

>>826094
Why don't you use your mouse left handed? All you gotta do is swap buttons 1 and 2.

>>826170
Fancy logitec mouse.

>>825173
He's not loud, annoying, doesn't beg for subscribers, and he doesn't show anything unnecessary. You can just watch him work and get comfy.

>>825151
He's gonna make a mudpie fleshlight.

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>>826252
>doesn't beg for subscribers

just shills these threads all over the fucking internet.

>>825679
For an axe, he could do a sort of socketed axe head or have the entire thing be solid and have it work in a way that's similar to his stone axe.

Though I don't know how he'd be able to make a socket like this without so,e sort of mandrel or horn. Maybe if he found a properly shaped stone and prevented that from cracking due to the heat?

>>825151
>0:55
Was that a pterodactyl?

>>826320
Point me to any part of one of his videos that asks for subscribers? Sure he probably throws them on reddit, but you have to get noticed somehow.

And considering he regularly hits 1 million+ views you'd have to be stupid to think that every thread ever talking about him is just him shilling for himself.

Roggan?

>>825151
that moment you realise he just went from stone age to the fucking iron age.

>>826327
>he probably throws them on reddit
There is fierce competition among the reddit plebs to post his videos. They literally get posted 10 times by ten different users within one minute of being uploaded.

>>826320
Everyone see
>>>/diy/1030660
and
>>>/diy/1030683

For more logical and sane posts by this anon.

>>826093
>He wears the exact same thing in every video.
The video is shot over a duration of weeks/months. I appreciate the consistent clothing because it makes the cuts more seamless.

>>825180
Fuck off faggot. That aussie does very /out/ stuff and isn't annoying.

>>825565
>Closest I recall is that he did buy some sweet potatoes in his garden plot video.
He used sweet potatoes from civilization and wild yams.

>>>/diy/1030772

>>826396
>>1030800
>I'm starting to worry he might be a vegan

Oh no.

>>825151

First time I visit /out/ and already found something worthwile, holy shit.

Didn't know this youtuber. His video made me feel so comfy and amazing

>>825547
He burns the hair off of his face with a clay and streamwater solar-powered laser that he made with spit and grass.

>>825552
He doesn't need one now, heaps of YouTube ad revenue and a bunch of Patreon supporters.

>>825165
Thats the shitter, he collects it and rubs it on arrow heads to soften the turtle meat he catches.

>>827212
>Thats the shitter, he collects turtle heads. to soften the meat arrow he rubs on it and catches it

>>825151
arrowheads?

This circle jerking is absolutely disgusting

>>827422
>how dare people like something

>>825339
>White man create civilization out of nothing.
>50 years later natives demand evil white man to give back their land.

>>826320
Are you retarded? That's a normal rise in subscribers. Notice how there's no erratic jump like he was buying subs or shilling for subs. It's normal subscriber growth you moron.

>>826349
Graph shows linear growth in subscribers.
Organized shilling would tend to produce an exponential spike.

The material is comfy and way better than a lot of what's out there.

I work at a consulting firm that assists manufactures in designing machined to make their products. We take the end product, brake it down into components and figure out how to make each part than make the tools to make that part. Than make tools to turn parts into products. It could be biscuits, power line insulators or carburettors, we do anything.

In a slow period a few weeks ago all us tech types met up in the conference room and the boss gave us a task.

Build HMS Victory at a green field site. No legacy tools or equipment. Just wood, wool, pitch, hemp, iron ore, copper ore, lead and tin.

He than handed us the ships guide book, the RN Handbook of Seamanship and the full set of plans.

We broke the ship down into parts. Sails, spars, masts, rigging, details, minor hull and major hull.
We than took each part and figured out how it was made then what tools it took.
We than worked on making the tools and so on down to what could be made with hands,teeth and fire alone.
We failed.
At every turn we found that we needed blacksmith tongs.
You can't make tongs without tongs.
You can manipulate the bloom with green sticks and hammer it with a rock but you can't punch the hole for the rivet without tongs.
Making tongs by casting copper can't work either. Copper conducts heat too well and softens before you can start hammering the bloom.
We went into the workshop and started mucking about with iron.
We managed to make an iron bar with just charcoal, iron ore and two rocks.
We bent it into a set of BBQ tongs but when it cooled it was brittle. We tried again with six different styles of tempering and the one piece tongs where either too brittle and snapped or too inflexible to be used.
Another job making a factory to make LED lights came I and the Victory project was shelved.

There is a legend that the first tongs where given to man by the gods. I'm sort of believing that.

These threads are pretty damn interesting "how it's made" but prehistoric.

It's pretty funny seeing people taking the time to hate on this. There's nothing to hate here...you either find it interesting or you don't.

People that hate on things like this pretty much are what's wrong with the world. So wrapped up in your own little minds.

>>825252
>literally the stereotype of a fat homely middle-aged medieval housewife

>>827594

Obviously you CAN make tongs without tongs. Otherwise tongs would never had been invented.

Stop being retarded.

>>827594
Couldn't you just make a piece of metal that was v shaped and slide it onto things until they got stuck?

Also, what about clay tongs?

>>827604
https://youtu.be/F3rjjpuhCLI?t=361

>>827594
1: You use a stick or mallet for the hammer and a thick rock for the anvil to make a rudimentary hammer. You don't need tongs for that, just something thick enough to carry it from forge to rock and back. You beat it to hell and back with the stick/mallet until there is enough of a shape to have 1 flat side and area to tie it to a handle. (don't use a rock as a hammer, it is too dangerous)

2: You'll need a cheater stick to act as a "tong". Just bend a stick around like a pair of tweezers, flatten the tips, this will work and is easy enough to make. It won't last long but you can make many of them. Use this to make your spike and each side of the metal tongs.

3: Use the spike to make holes in the tongs. Use wood to make a temp rivet and use the tongs and hammer to make a metal rivet.

4: Start making a square anvil.

Now you are ready to build anything.

Additional tip. You can make metal tongs that look like the BBQ tongs, but they are just 2 spikes with flat ends lashed to a green bent stick as the spring in the back. You can replace the spring stick as much as is needed. With this, only the metal parts will touch the hot work peice.

>>827611
We used two pieced of granite for the hammer and anvil.
Woots steel to make a mandril to make holes in two pieces of bar iron.
We tried wood as a temp rivet and it failed under the stress. Cast copper and brass rivets softened under the heat transfer.
Iron chopsticks could not hold an iron rivet when you started pounding it,
We did not think of bi material tongs.

The best plan we had was making a very thin bar to fit in the holes in the tong pieces than cut to length and round over cold but we got a paying job before we got that far.

We seldom get our hands dirty doing prototype work, we usually just cad everything and run it in sim. If it works we send the data to a workshop to produce.
Once installed we than trouble shoot any problems that pop up on site.

>>827628
What about wooden tongs with a fired clay cover?

>>827628
>We tried wood as a temp rivet and it failed under the stress. Cast copper and brass rivets softened under the heat transfer.

You don't use wood for long than it takes to make a small iron rivet.

This shit is mentally easy as cake to do, it just takes hard work slamming this shit out.

>>825180
Stop projecting Jamal

One small question I have, as I'm not entirely familiar with the basics of metallurgy. At the end of the extraction process in the furnace, he wound up with a lump of slag and iron. How do you separate that shit out?

>>827716
He probaby just smashed the slag. And used a magnet. I mean. He is a shill anyway.

>>827716
He smashed it and then picked for the parts that were iron.

Iron is harder than slag.

>>827716
Probably broke it up and then used a magnet, this was just a proof of concept, he will probably make the iron in his bloomery and then refine it by wroughting it.

>>825208
I think iron tools are still pretty primitive, but this is completely subjective topic. He already used medieval techniques to build roof tiles, so there is that. Personally I would prefer to see iron tools in his channel from now on instead of stone age things, because stone tools are too easy. It's industrial technology that starts to get too high for being primitive imo.

But I want to know, how does one make an anvil from scrap? I mean the iron part is easy, but how to make into an anvil? Can it be just cast and then hardened (Altho that would make pretty bad one).

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>>827858
YOU don't. early anvils where often made from hard stone like dolomite. if you get a big enough cut of stone, you could easily hammer on it with 5lb hammers without any sort of cracking. and I don't know why everyones getting a hard-on about him making iron.

he should be making bronze, or copper first, as its much easier... I'm not sure what Australia has as far as minerals and metals for his area.. natives would know tho.

>>827866
There's very little copper in that area, but it is literally awash with iron.
Northern Australia is so full of iron that the ground is blood red in dry parts.
>Natives would know.
No, they wouldn't.
Look up our natives and see for yourself.

The only resources they could scout for you would be the nearest Shell servo.

>>825506
>Has proved he can make it himself
>Get some at the hardware
Pick one

>>827871
Natives. As in the people who grewup/live there. You dongle.

>>827927
Ahhhhhhh, they're just known as normal people.
>Dongle
Nice try.

>>827871
>Look up our natives and see for yourself.
they use wooden clubs, they can set everything on fire and bite stuff between the eyes. that's the extent of their technology.

>>825339
actually africans had steel long before white man came over. their process of making it is shitty and labor intensive tho. but very interesting.

>>827858
It depends on the scrap used. If you have tool steel scrap then you can proceed in a few ways.

The best way is to have a solid chunk of tool steel in which you chisel/cut down through physical damage until you have what you need. Like a piece of rail road from a turn.

2nd best is to have a flat plate of tool steel you place on top of iron.

3rd best is just a small chunk of tool steel embedded into a log or stump.

4th is just iron, preferably wrought iron, not cast iron.

The idea is to apply the force to your work piece with as little energy entering into the anvil. That is why you take a ball bearing and bounce it off the anvil to see how high it rebounds. The higher it bounces the better.

Things like stone anvils and wood anvils can work, but are not nearly as good as just a piece of metal.

>>825151
the thumbnail sorta looks like hes cooking tarantula

>>828158
Well, he lives in Australia, that would make sort of sense.

>>827946
Shh, you're disturbing the Nazi circlejerk.

>>828607
>Nazis
We're just saying that it's remarkable that such a resource rich continent, with established inhabitants didn't progress technologically.

>>826055
This is false

>>825339
>it's a 'people who have never read a book about africa talk about africa' episode

>>825484
>>825489
wait please tell me this guy isn't a fucking /pol/tard because that would ruin so much of this for me.

>>828839
It has been posted on every board on 4chan I think.

>>826055
incorrect

>>828659
The first resource you need before you can tap any of the others is food.

Savanna and Sahel aren't great for that.

You got what you call cattle kingdoms, like the ones that built great Zimbabwe, but the population density you need for literacy wasn't really possible.

>>828839
What's wrong with pol you kike

>>829129
>answering your own question

>>828995
I'm talking about crazy resource rich areas, like Ghana and The Congo.

If you can't grow something in the Congo, you can't grow anything.

>>829154
You say that, but it takes a lot of effort to get shit growing in the jungle.

People in Southeast Asia managed it, but only because they directly bordered China, and even then the Khmer civilization folded like a house of cards.

Through in a desert separating you from the rest of civilization, forget about it. Nobody is going to take the first step when hunter gathering is so much more efficient.

>>825151
Discovered this guy's channel only recently, and this man is amazing.

I'm not an outfag myself, so I have a few questions;

Realistically, if a man like him was stranded and thus had nothing else to do, how much time would it take him to be at the same point as he is now in his videos?

And would a man without his experience would be able to survive as well, given time?

Isn't being so lightly clothed a problem in the outdoor? I mean he's barefoot and shirtless, wouldn't the weather, bugs or even small rodent be a problem, especially in Australia?

>>826055
He has knowledge on how to do it, it's like trying to make a cold fusion generator today for us compared to metalurgy for natives of other countries. Blacks back in the day had to come up with this stuff themselves. It's hard to invent, easy to adapt knowledge.

>>829321
He's had the huge advantage of having food and shelter already taken care of while he's doing this stuff, and the ability to use books/google to pick up tricks.

He seems like the kind of guy that could get a lean-to and some snares done if you sent him into the woods with a knife, but there's a reason humans tend to operate in packs in areas that they know extremely well.

>>829321
I think the tiled roof shelter he made took over 60 days from the description

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>tfw will never unironically live this life

>>829401
>ironically living this life

>>829408
that's what he does, he says it is only a hobby
I don't want it to be a hobby

>>829409
>hobbies are ironic
Mate you need to learn english

>>829410
Mate you need to lurk more

>>829411
Damn, been a long time since anyone told me to lurk moar
Thanks man, the memories come flooding back

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>>827422
>>826320
>>825180

NEXT VIDEO WHEN

His videos are so comfy man. I would donate to him, but he's well off as it is. I'm glad, he does good shit.

>>829443
He does about one video a month.
He's got his Patreon set to one payment per product and doesn't want to oversaturate it with crap.
He's about quality more than quantity.

Any other YouTuber would milk it for all it's worth; they'd post vlogs, pad out videos with pointless commentary and would turn single videos into series.
I think he spent like 2-3 months just making the tile roof video, and just did it in one video, rather than spreading it across multiple videos.

>>829450
What a great guy

>>828664
but I've seen black hawk down. i know all about Africa.

>>829895
frankly you know more than you even need to

>See /out/standing gentleman make fire like it's nothing.
>Try for hours with spindle and fireboard.
>Get a tiny, beautiful little ember.
>Arms tired.
>Accidentally tip over my ember.

I would die in the woods, wouldn't I /out/?

>>830337
As with ALL skills and devices you are to use while on a trip, you must learn how to use them fluidly and effectively. Practice practice practice, until you can do it in your sleep without even thinking about it.

>>830349
>spend hours practicing bowdrill
>still can fail if can't find the right wood

spend 60 cents to buy a candle and bring a few waterproofed match or a lighter you will have fire if you can have fire at all.

>>827866
>Dissapointment

Someone in Japan turned him into BGM

http://nicovideo.geo.jp/?sm29380997

>>829450
>I think he spent like 2-3 months just making the tile roof video, and just did it in one video, rather than spreading it across multiple videos.

Lets be honest, this is the best way to produce videos. Huge projects like the tiled roof building make for a major attraction to the channel, but the smaller videos, like the charcoal video, or this most recent one, take a day or two at most, and provide interesting content in the meantime.

>>825373
carpenterbro, i feels you. building house atm, 2300 sq feet for two stories, w/ a fuckhuege 2000 sq foot deck. half done sheeting the roof of the deck now.

>>825262
yes you weird fuck

>>825151

Back on topic....

What the fuck is that thing he made? Can't see videos.

>>830375
You really don't get the joy of learning a skill do you?

>>828664
>it's a "useless namefag mistakes the board he's in for /co/ " episode

>>831461
no i get joy out of results.
doing it the hard way if you don't have to is insane to me.

>>825431
iron isn't that strong and rusts a lot
by mixing it with tiny amounts of carbon you get steel, much stronger, flexible and rusts less

>>831480
There is no, "hard way". That is an opinion. In addition to that, doing things the "hard way" gives you additional perspective on your life.

>>825175
>WHHHHAATS UP GUYS? It's yo boy _____ coming at you with ____.

-Every faggot youtube intro ever.

>>831490
what? carbon content in steel only makes rusting worse. way worse. you need alloying elements like chromium to make steel corrosion resistant.

>>827594
draw 1 tong part in the sand / mud and fill it up with iron. Do same with other part. The hole in the tong ist just a little sand hill.

It's not magic

>>831480
Then dont go /out/ your house is far better shelter and your stove will cook better. Shopping is easier and quicker than hunting.

>shitposting on /out/ is better than playing with mud and sticks outside
>somehow shitposting is more revered by society than what PT is doing

I question the logic of the detractors.

>>831701
indeed if quality shelter and easy cooking is what you want you shouldn't go out.
but if you want to go out and want fire then bring a lighter and some matches and a candle just in case.

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>>827866
>natives would know tho
kek, good one. They might tell where you can find petrol.

The nips are onto him.

http://nicogame.info/watch/sm29380997

>>831799
>They might tell where you can find petrol
You can always rely on a booga to tell you where the nearest servo is

>>832477
>2000 views

Weaksauce.

>watching his videos
>all parts of the sweet potato are edible
Whoa.

>>825180
>t. A nigger who is mad that a white guy has made more progress in a few days than than the shitskins have made in millions of years

How does he expect to Smith iron tools without iron tools?

Copper would make far more sense, it melts down and you can make a clay mould of an axehead for the molten copper to be poured into.

Could you Smith iron tools using copper tools, or is copper too weak?

>>832732
Well he'll figure it out. The first iron tools had to be made by something

>>832517

That's a mirror site. It's got over 200k in 4 days on the main site.

>>832748

Also someone finally uploaded it to YouTube if the moonspeak scares you

https://youtu.be/GHjocrEWRV4

>>832732
>How does he expect to Smith iron tools without iron tools?

Hard rock anvil, hardened wood tongs, hard rock axe to hit with.

>>829274
>China
No. Khmer empire and other Southeast Asian states basically fed off Southern Indian states which in turn were fed by Indo-European civilization.

Sub-Saharan Africa was unfortunate to not have been nurtured by a greater culture aside. In parts where there wasn't an influence barrier, like Nubia or Ethiopia we see otherwise. Had white man not stepped in, maybe the Arabs over time would have nurtured most of Africa into being more civilized (relatively).

>>832753
I wonder what his exposure is in Japan.

>>832817
>Arabs
>Nurturing civilisation
You've been drinking the wrong koolaid.

>>832846
Notice how I said relatively in paranthesis? Yeah, the Arabs are shit, but they were starting to take hold into West Africa and introduce writing and math. Who knows what the Africans would have made out of it?

>>832852
Judging by what they did to colonial schools and infrastructure after colonial powers left, it would not be much difference from now.

>>826320
You're retarded
>>825180
(you)

>>826328
Erectus
>woo loo loo

>>832874
It's not as simple as that. In colonial era, the natives weren't in position of power and most of them were uneducated anyways.

See what happened with Apartheid? The uneducated and backwards people moved in and turn many neighborhoods into hellholes. In such type of situation, it would be tough for the few educated natives to revamp their society. You need a long time for it to sink in. Europe didn't advance overnight, it was thousands of years of progress and setbacks.

>>832846
>You've been drinking the wrong koolaid.

ts a strange mix of anger, disappointment and a maniacal laughter that I am feeling right now.
The wrong koolaid. As in, come drink our koolaid instead. Its just as bullshit, but its more peer approved on 4chan!!

Disgusting.

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>>825405
>Igbo invented Iron by themselves
Fun fact, Igbos are part white.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadioha#Consort_to_Ani

>Amadioha is typically depicted as a fair-skinned, titled gentleman of cool temper who is the patron of "light skinned Igbos" and "men of exalted rank."

>>833439
Sort of.
Under the systems in Rhodesia they were intending to introduce a gradual transition of power, ensuring that the new caretakers of the country were educated and knew how to maintain the carefully balanced systems of the country.
Look at Zimbabwe today though, after being railroaded by Western Powers and the UN into an immediate transition of powers - the country turned into a dictatorship overnight, with widespread voting fraud to this day, the breadbowl of Africa has turned into a region in famine and the economy has failed.
Not to mention the genocide of the Matabele people by the Mugabe regime.

But for a different example, look at the Congo, that spent generations educating indigenous people and getting them ready for a transition of power - today the country is still reeling from the transition, recovering from genocide, corruption and failure.

>>833511
I meant the wrong koolaid, as in the jug that has just been handled by the creepy guy in the semen stained trench coat.

>>833511
>>833586
>>832846
That term-twist comes from Peoples Temple back in 1978 where 900 some people drank Flavor Aid/Kool-aid in a massive murder-suicide.

>>825180
dats racist

>>827866
>natives would know tho.
they didn't get past sticks anon

>>828839
/pol/ did nothing wrong

>>833612
Jonestown massacre right? I saw the pictures, spoopy as fug. iirc people were dying before everyone was served. Can you imagine knowing you have no choice? (Guns pointed at them)

>>825151
Magnificent

>>825151
can you just find coal on the surface?

>>835326
Charcoal, nigga.

>>835327
wow duh, my bad

>>827229
chuckled

>>825180
*complains about whites*
*sips battery fluid*