Homegrowmen (Farming and Gardening) Thread #64

US Farm Income and Taxes:
http://www.hobbyfarms.com/farm-marketing-and-management/farm-income-taxes-14991.aspx

US Grants and Loans for Small Farms:
http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/usdahome?navid=GRANTS_LOANS
http://afsic.nal.usda.gov/farms-and-community/grants-and-loans-farmers
http://www.nal.usda.gov/afsic/pubs/funding.shtml

Managing Risks on Your Small Farm:
http://agr.wa.gov/Marketing/SmallFarm/managerisk.aspx

Chicken info and forum:
http://www.backyardchickens.com

Rabbit guide:
http://www.agriculture.gov.tt/publications/manuals/rabbit-production-a-producer-s-manual.html

A public access seedbank for many types of rare or endangered plants; both edible and ornamental:
http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/index.htm

Organic and heirloom selections:
http://sustainableseedco.com/
http://www.seedsofchange.com/
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/

Potato, Sweet Potato, and Tubers seed bank (free, but requires filling out forms and waiting in line):
http://www.cipotato.org/

Awesome interactive plant/gardening maps for USA, Canada, France, UK, BC (frost dates, temp zones, etc):
http://www.plantmaps.com/index.php

Sprout seeds and info:
sproutpeople.org

Insect Habitats for attracting pollinating bees, predatory/parasitic wasps, hibernating ladybugs, butterflies, etc.:
http://www.inspirationgreen.com/insect-habitats.html

Toad and Hedgehog Habitats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JetkWtw7Jc
http://familycrafts.about.com/od/frogcrafts/a/How_To_Make_A_Toad_Village.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/breathingplaces/hedgehog_home/
http://www.britishhedgehogs.org.uk/leaflets/L5-Hedgehog-Homes.pdf

Chili Peppers:
http://www.fatalii.net/
http://www.chilepepperinstitute.org/

More on Aquaponics & Aquaculture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=26xpMCXP9bw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=_WgfaJjvfxA
http://www.appropedia.org/Aquaponics

Sourcing plants from the grocery:
http://www.diyncrafts.com/4732/repurpose/25-foods-can-re-grow-kitchen-scraps

Pumpkins

My potatoes have started to sprout flowers. how much longer should I have before harvest? I was thinking sometime next month. Zone 5b, planted about 2 weeks late I think, red potatoes.

>>812247
Harvest when the tops die.

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I have these tiny insects in the soil of my indoor potted plants.

They come out when I water, but don't jump like springtails. Are they good or bad? should I kill them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABdSpAofzBA

>>812278
They should be fine.

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Corn/garlic seed guy here. I'll have an update for /out/ in a few days on that stuff. For now, I want to talk about Tepary beans, a nice little crop that few have heard of.

First off, they're a dry bean only, so if you're looking for green beans, you might as well skip this post. They are also often considered the most drought tolerant crop in the world. Some of those plants are on a raised walkway. They're volunteers from seed that I harvested late last year, and many of the pods had already opened. What is notable is that, except for a very small amount of rain that caused them to germinate, they have received no direct water. They're thriving with having stuff near, but not on them get water.

Where I live, 100f days aren't uncommon during the growing season, and my average annual precipitation is around 8.5" (22cm) per year. If I water them once every one to two weeks, I can easily get a 200 to 1, if not greater, return on the seed planted. If there is no rain likely for two or three weeks, I can simply not water them and watch some of the weeds go bye-bye while they still survive. Some of the cultivars are incredibly tough:

>In 1912, ethnographer Carl Lumholtz found small cultivated fields primarily of tepary beans in the Pinacate Peaks area of Sonora. In the Pinacate, with an average annual precipitation of 75 mm (3.0 in) and temperatures up to 48 °C (118 °F), Papago and Mexican farmers utilized runoff from sparse rains to grow crops. In the 1980s author Gary Paul Nabhan visited this area, and found one farm family taking advantage of the first large rain in six years, planting seeds in the wet ground and harvesting a crop two months later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaseolus_acutifolius

Tough, as in dry farmed in the Sonora Desert.

>>812286
(continued...)

I also like them better than most common (p vulgaris) beans. They are also reported to have more protein than most other beans.


Here are a couple of sources for seed:
https://plantsofthesouthwest.com/collections/vegetables/products/sonoran-tepary-bean?variant=16735329093

http://shop.nativeseeds.org/collections/tepary-beans

I've dealt with both and they have always given me good service, been friendly, and they carry things that most seed catalogs don't.

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>>811652 #

Does this guy look like a good candidate for cutting? Just noticed it the other day. I didn't plant it, so it must have been Mr. Bird doing his job.

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>>812169

Here's my biggest atm. Not quite big enough to eat the neighborhood children yet.

>>812314
That looks like an Acer platanoides, which is a shitty weed you should remove ASAP, it manages to seed itself literally everywhere, even on cement cracks in balconies 5m above ground

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>>812317

Also have a few growing near my compost that must have come from last year's jack-o-lantern.

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>>812318

Not the poster you responded to, but it looks more like one of these.

>>812318
Whoops, I though you were responding to the post below the one that you responded to.

>>812318

Shit you're right. I was comparing it with my neighbor's raspberry patch, but they must just have a bunch of those mixed in.

>>812285
cool i want to make sure they're not fungus gnats or anything bad like that

>>812338
If you're not germinating seeds, fungus gnats actually have no consequences

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Found this wild parsnip while /out/ing last weekend. I'm bringing a shovel next time to harvest a few of them.

>>812461
>>812461
careful some wild Parsnip can leave Nasty blisters

>>812525
Before I knew that, I tried pulling a few up by hand. I only had mild irritation that lasted a few minutes. Poison Ivy doesn't affect me either.

>>812527
Feels good to know that, doesn't it?

>>812387
No consequences besides killing or stunting your plants

>>812649
Maybe he will also learn to harvest in the appropriate season

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Watermelons took long enough to start setting fruit, but now they're accelerating a lot (has been quite warm the last few days though)

I put some tomato plant cuttings in a pot outside to grow new tomato plants from them, and they all wilted within the day.

Is that normal? Will they bounce back if I keep watering?

>>812748
If you aren't in super wet climate (>90% humidity constantly), you should either let it root in a water glass or, if you directly put in soil, at least wrap a plastic bag around it
Also, keep it out of direct sun during the process

>>812752
Can I just submerge it in the water glass, or should I make an effort to keep the leaves above the water?

Is it too late for the ones that have wilted already? They're still green.

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>>812753
Leaves above water, also even when using that method, it's not a bad idea to use a plastic bag too to slow evaporation

You could try continuing with the wilted one, but if you have access to better cuttings/suckers, use those
The time to get roots varies extremely in my experience though, anything from 2 weeks to 3 months, so depending where you live it might be a little late now (or early if you want to clone over winter which I did last year), unless you're in the tropics of course

This is how it'll look like when roots appear, at this stage I put it in a pot (very carefully add the soil/press on to not damage the roots), which I thought might have been a bit early so I wrapped around a plastic bag for 10 more days (it was in very dark January behind window though at 50°N, so everything goes slower)

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One of my 3 zucchini plants died today from vine borer. It is the non-climbing type zucchini so I can't use the buried stem method to prevent it. At least I have some pretty big zucchini I've harvested already.

Looks like nothing is going to stop this years pepper harvest. I'm going to rev up my food dehydrator for them this year I think.

Does anyone know of a chart that shows the nutrient levels of various composted animal manures? All I can find are results for pre-composted fresh. Specifically, I'm looking for calcium content of fully-composted chicken manure. I want to know if it is higher/lower/unchanged versus fresh chicken manure.

my zucchinis havent even started putting out fruit yet even though my neighbor gave me a fully grown one is it too late for zone 6?

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>>812770
>>812787
Tomatoes and potatoes aside, the only other nightshade I have are bell peppers, still small and far away from turning yellow/red

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>>812740

Nice

I've got some Charleston Greys growing that I planted about 3 weeks ago, they're coming in slower than I expected but I'm looking forward to 30lb fruit.

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Root knot nematodes strike again!

I had been complaining in one of the earlier homegrow threads about my plants seeming nutrient deficient. While under watering was definitely stressing the plants out and making matters worse, the main culprit was the roots being too damaged to suck up any of my deliciously amended soil.

I planted tons of mustard and marigold throughout winter-- how else are you supposed to combat these shits?

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>>812806
Is there a point at which I should snap new setting fruits, like limiting it to x fruits per plant? (Hard to tell the single plants apart though at this stage) Or snapping fruits setting after date X?
First frosts are on average in early November here (getting later though over the last years, 2014 it didn't freeze before just after Christmas), but highs above 20°C already become increasingly rare by late September and sunshine rapidly drops (50°N)
It is a special hybrid ("Red Star") though tailored for our cooler climate and won't make too huge fruits (shit was expensive yo, seed pack had cost around €2.80 and had 10 whole seeds in it, only realised that later)

>>812803
Mine are all Hungarian wax peppers. They do turn red when fully ripe. I harvested most now to help promote more growth and more peppers later. I wish I had room indoors for all of them to overwinter. I'd never run out of peppers!

>>812823

No idea, this is only my second year planting melons.

>>812807
are you that guy with the sickly/stunted tomatoes and such?

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>>812832
Nah, my squash and cukes were the real issue. My tomatoes are all volunteers and babies atm and are not in the nematode infested bed.

I'm barrelguy-- one of the like 5+ Floridians in here. I guess nematodes are pretty normal for this state.

>>812832
I'm one of the sick tomato guys. Moved mine into the shade. Think it might be getting too much sun.

>>812907
ah ok, i don't lurk /homegrowmen/ too religiously so was just trying to get it sorted-out in my head

>>812911
well best of luck with that anon, hope it helps

>>812913
If they don't look great by tomorrow I'm going to buy some manure.

>>812317
Mine aren't even that big yet. I'll get anew pic tomorrow

>>812740
My watermelon is super slow growing. I planted it at the end of may, and the vine is maybe 40cm at most

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The yellow indicates a switch between crops every four years. The green shows an annual rotation. I currently don't have a farm or garden, but I grew up working on a farm and really liked gardening as a kid. So I guess this is for fun. What do you guys think? I think it would be ideal for a landowner with some animals.

>>812907
What do you use the barrel for?

There's a fruit or a vegetable that makes big leaves that used to be in my grandfather's garden long ago. I want to say it was egg plant but I'm really not sure.

Anyway the stem of the leaf was hollow on the inside and he would cut the leaf in a way that when you blew into it it made a horn sound.

Anybody help me out with what this plant might be?

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>>812926
dissolving dead bodies for the mafia

>>812948
Summer squash can make big leaves and has a hollow stem.

>>812702
More like fertilize and aerate the soil

Fuggg, I lost another squash plant today. It was doing find yesterday, then came out and it was totally wilted today. That's the 2nd one this year. One to squash bugs. This one probably caught some virus, because it was sudden and there was no sign of squash vine borers whatsoever. Also, all of the other plants next to it were just fine. Oh well, that's just more room for beets next month.

Funny thing is, the best squash plant that I have is a volunteer. I think it's 3'4 yellow straight neck and 1/4 white scalloped bush squash. It looks like gigantic yellow straight necks, except they're white, and I did have a straightneck/white scalloped cross 2 years ago that made these 2L coke bottle shaped and sized squashes.

I'm definitely saving seed from it.

>>813100
Sadly, the seeds probably won't breed true-- save and plant them anyways for science!

You should check the roots and bottom of the stem and look for discoloration or galls. A lot of the sudden killers have some signs on the roots or internally.

>>812949
Basically,

It's working great now that it's hot! I got easily 20 lbs of compost out of it last week. Two or three weeks with good weather and constant turning and I'll have more black gold. The barrel makes compost much faster than a pile in the corner of the yard.

>>813120
This was most likely an F2 hybrid, so most of the fun stuff for science has already happened. I will tell you that I found out the hard way that the bushing trait in bush squashes is recessive. Try planting veining squashes at bushing squash spacing, and see how that works out. Fucking jungle.

The other thing is that, for plants like squashes and melons, you have much less to worry about with inbreeding depression than you do with other plants, because most of the harmful recessive alleles have already been selected against. This particular plant is far enough away from my other c. pepo plants that I'm not too worried about it crossing with others, and it should be fine crossing with itself.

>>813127
I was more worried about passing on specific traits rather than an all around failure.

None of my volunteer grape tomato seeds are making grape tomatoes... I have another batch ready to plant and try again. They seemed to make something like a VFN Roma which surprised me. The thing looked sickly and ugly, but when I pulled it up yesterday it had zero nematode damage. I planted VFN Roma seeds last year and had the same ugly, unreliable plants that got sick from everything but those three it was bred to resist.

I planted some honeydew seeds from a melon I got from the grocery store for shits and giggles and I got one watermelon and two honeydew plants! The watermelon lost its fruit due to goddamned nematodes and a resulting calcium deficiency, but the fruit and seeds looked just like the Charleston gray I had been growing last year.

I'm very new to seed saving, so this is all learning and experimenting for me. I didn't even know about "breeding true" until last year.

>>813120
I prefer my compost piles. Just pile and forget until next year. Added bonus is that I put the piles in my raised bed so I never have to move it again. Once it is done composting I just plant in it.

>>813225
The watermelon was a volunteer from something else, guaranteed. Watermelons and honeydews are different species. The stuff from the grocery store could very well be an F1 hybrid. It may or may not be true to its parents.

>>812151
I'm gonna be growing elderberries and I was wondering if it was a good idea to put down some cardboard and then mulch with some grass that I just cut today. I'm very new to this. I'll have amended the soil to get it to the right ph level and fertilized it before putting the mulch down. I'm just wondering if this will cause any issues for my nascent elderberry.

>>813262
I have never grown elderberries, but with mulch, the general answer is, so long as it isn't causing the ground to heat up enough to cook the roots, and the plant itself is not covered, you should be fine. I will say that with squash, mulch is a bad thing, because goddamned fucking squash bugs will hide in it.

>>813321
Thanks senpai.

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Why is everyone putting their avocado in a tiny ass pot? Is that really enough for such a massive plant?

>>813329
big enough for a seedling. When I grow I move my plants to larger pots as they get root bound. I start off with a shit ton of seedlings in a small space and cull the weak ones. In the end I get strong plants in larger pots and get to recycle the dirt.

>>813331
Thanks

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How feasible is it to grow a selection of common herbs (basil, coriander, parsley, rosemary, lemon balm, thyme stuff like that) in a small city apartment? I mean really small my kitchen only has a little more than one cubic meter of floor space and one counter so it would have to go on the wall. The living room has more space on the walls but would the direct sunlight all day be harmful?

The fresh shit is way too expensive here and I'd like to stop using as many dried herbs.

>>813444
If you have a spot in your apartment that gets sun all day you can grow most herbs inside.

>>813444
Fairly easy if you have a window either facing east or west where it will get more sun. It's not required but a lot of herbs need a good bit of sun to grow fast and proper. They also grow okay together, but I'd still look up what plants are good companions with each other.

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>>813451
>>813456
Thanks. I get sunlight all day from dawn till dusk. I read somewhere that too much light "dries them out". Is that not true? I live pretty far north so even at mid day it's not that hot in the sun (rarely above 25c).

Also based on the picture I drew which would be better A or B?
>They also grow okay together, but I'd still look up what plants are good companions with each other.
I was thinking of having one "box" but separate pots/dividers in the soil to keep the plants separate. Is that a good or a bad idea compared to just having one shared compartment?

>>813465
if two plants do not get along, a small divider will be fine but honestly putting them all in one box is alright as long as they're herbs because most if not all herbs get along. It really depends on the herb, but many culinary herbs are mediterranean and would thrive in full sunlight if they could get it. They'll only dry out if you water during the day, as this washes away a substance on the leaves that protects the plant from sunlight. Water either in the morning or at night.

>>813444
You could get an aero garden idk what out thinks of those.

What is a good dwarf tree that produces fruit that can grow in a container indoor/out. I get full sun if I keep it on my second floor but it will be fully indoors then. Zone 7.

Note: I would like to have several trees maybe two upstairs and one that is outside or okay in part sun (if it needs to be brought inside in winter)

Does anyone ITT have any experience with growing tea leaves? I just want to grow black tea since I love making iced tea.

Live in zone 8b if it matters

>>813252
Google says you're right, but it's so strange I got one watermelon volunteer right where and when I planted my two honeydews. Hmm... Thank you for calling this to my attention!

I was surprised too! If I never got a melon off the vine, I wouldn't have believed it. It was just starting to get pink when the back caved in from lack of calcium. At this point, I'm not sure what to expect from the other two.


>>813230
Imagine a world where compost takes less than a month to go from your food to plant food. This is barrel life.

>>813551
>Imagine a world where compost takes less than a month to go from your food to plant food. This is barrel life.
You've piqued my curiosity.

Do you have a link to a guide for how you built it?

>>813551
Two years ago, I had tracked down some seeds for melon cultivars that were local. One was originally bred less than a mile from me, another within 5 miles, and a third about 15 miles from me. One of them mysteriously popped up before I had planted them.

It turns out, that I was going to plant them one afternoon, and threw the seed packets into my shirt pocket. Then, for whatever reason, I didn't plant them that day and waited about a week to plant them elsewhere. The conclusion is that a seed or two fell out of my shirt pocket when I was picking a weed or something.

Volunteers can show up at strange places for strange reasons. I have quit questioning it and often let them live. I, myself, have a volunteer watermelon growing in with my Zuni Gold and Anasazi beans, and I have no idea what kind it is. I grew Tohono O'odhams and Navajo Winter Watermelons last year, so it could be either of them, a cross between them, or some seed from a store bought melon that made it into the compost and somehow managed to not get destroyed or sprout.

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It's happening! Fresh habaneros soon.

>>813546
Seconded. I want to start a tea garden next season and would like some tips, zone 5b

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many more to come

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my serrano plant didn't start out too well, but it's finally started popping out some peppers. it's pretty small, but i should still get at least 50-60 peppers before the last frost

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cayennes turning red

>>813569
Cayenne pepper makes a nice home herbal remedy for muscle and joint pain

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Update
Carrot going to flower
Avocado in need of trimming

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these will make some nice hot pepper flakes

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Orange
Lemon
Orange
Avocado that was pruned last year

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Orange going to flower after 4 months(was potted in worm compost)
Oregano
Garlic chives

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got a huge zinnia bed going this year. the monarch butterflies will appreciate it in a couple of months

>>813575
Very nice.

>>813562
Holy hell anon! You missed an opportunity for some Spurdo talk that played on HABanero, and you missed it!

IT'S HABBENING! :DDDDDDD

Anyway, good work. The super hots are supposed to be harder to grow. Half of my peppers are either stunted or gone because I didn't have time to tend the bumper crop of weeds early on in the season.

>>813571
>>813573
How long did it take your avocado to grow that tall (first pic)?

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Hibiscus syriacus starts flowering

>>813552
I used this link for the most part, but found it had needless things added and a few tips missing. Read it over and make judgement calls where necessary. PRO TIP: Use screws, nails are dumb. I used nails.

http://www.wikihow.com/Build-a-Tumbling-Composter

You need to get it HOT and have a proper balance of green and brown to get read- to-use compost in less than a month. This took me some time to get right, but now I have it down pat.


>>813559
Squirrels are the bane of my existence, but have also provided me my favorite plants. I have a pair of yellow mini bell peppers and four awesomely productive grape tomatoes thanks to them.

>>813572
By far the best thing I did with mine last year,

>>813583
2 years. I didn't prune it like I did the other 2. I live in an apt. so I have to during winter time. I'm surprised the 2 orange plants have flowered so quickly desu.

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Hello everyone, longtime lurker here.

I have a bunch of vineyards in my neck of the woods and by the good graces of farmers, i have acquired a few handfuls of different varieties.

They all have seeds and i plan on starting the seeds to then remove less robust plants and plant certain varieties in different parts of my back yards(patio terrace and along my brick wall). None are for raisins like, Thompsin seedless.

Anyone have an idea of kinds some of these are?

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>>813600
I know that pic related are Barbera or however its pronounced.

>>813600
I apologize the pic is distorted on its side.

Is it possible for an avocado tree to fruit in Canada? I don't have a green house but somebody is selling a 6ft tree for 30 bucks, said it's never fruited but has flowered every year

Hey guys, I have a quick forage question. There are wild raspberries here, and right now they're mostly green but have some pink to them. Will they be ready to eat by Friday next week? I want to do a forage activity with my campers, but I'm pretty sure the blueberries won't be ready to eat, which means if the raspberries aren't either, they're pretty much just eating fox grape tendrils and sucking honeysuckle. There's yarrow and pickle grass too I guess, but they should have something on offer that actually tastes good.

>>813600
>>813603
>tfw you live in an area with high heat and ultra high humidity where everything with a surface gets a dusting of black mold on it and all your grapes rot.

I had 1 year I actually got a crop. They are concord grapes. Best grape juice I've ever had in my life. That was like 10 years ago.

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I noticed something today when I was watering. I was spraying with the hose and watering the leaves too. I normally water once then go back and water again. About 5 minutes pass between waterings. When I got around to the 2nd watering for the zucchini plants I noticed all the squash bugs were trying to escape the water at ground level. They were climbing up to the tops of the plants.

Normally, when you try to catch squash bugs by hand they see you and drop to the ground immediately. well after being sprayed and soaked the squash bugs were desensitized and moved slower. They didn't drop when I tried to catch them. I caught and stomped about 50 or more of them. I'd catch them, stomp them, water the plant a bit, wait, repeat.

>>813622
Don't know where you live but a friend picked some wild blueberries last week in northern GA. I would say the raspberries would be ready from 1 1/2 weeks to 3.

>>813638
I'm in Nantucket, but not from here which is why I'm unsure. I know how blueberries mature and they could easily have another three weeks to go, they won't be ready in time. The raspberries, I'm less sure about because they usually go pretty fast when they start getting color. I think I'm probably going to assume that there will be at least a few ready to eat, if nobody has better info than me.

>>813624
Well thank goodness im nowhere near high humidity, i live in central california

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A fucking rabbit cut my watermelon vine right by the root and killed like 50cm of my plant

>>813639
Ishmael?

>>813644
That's why I shoot the little fuckers with a pellet rifle.

>>813644
sleep tight meller

>>813539
The price ain't worth it. Herbs are easy to grow in regular pots on the windowsill, you do NOT need such an expensive setup for them.

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>>813644
A few years ago, someone weedeated my entire garden in the height of the growing season.

>>813541
Petite Negri fig and meyer lemon. I have both and great luck so far. I live in zone 6 so they live indoors most of the year, but they put up with it remarkably well. VERY productive, the lemon especially. You will have more lemons than you can handle.

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>>813661

>>813661
>someone
senile family member? neighborhood kid? day laborer drunk with power? wife decided to "help out"?

>>813546
You will have to grow a LOT of plants to supply yourself. You only pluck the top shoots, and it shrinks down a lot too. Not something you could grow on a small plot. You could try a nice hedgerow along your property, they would make a very nice one.

>>813645
Nah, it's less whaling now and more tourism, though I'm involved largely with conservation.

>>813672
it's me Queequeg senpai

>>813563
Tea plants can't grow in your zone. And don't try growing them in a pot, you need a lot of dried tea to make, well, tea, and a potted specimen wouldn't provide enough.

>>813661
That would send me into a murderous rage.

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>>813668
Not getting into it, this is a Homegrowmen thread, drama doesn't belong.

>>813671
It can't be any worse than growing other plants for herbal teas and such. I do that all the time. I have a rack of mint drying right now and a large stockpot of already-dried mint leaves ready to be processed into teabags (same as pic related from last year.)

>>813563

Here are some herbal tea plants that would grow in your zone:

Mint-leaves, careful it spreads

Passionflower-leaves, thiers a type that good to 20 below, which is awesome. Fruit is fucking delicious too.

Rose — hips once the bloom has expired, boost of Vitamin C

Lemon Balm — Leaves,

Chamomile — flower buds, roman type is an annual

Echinacea — flower buds

Milk Thistle — flower buds,

Angelica — Root,

Catnip — Leaves,

Raspberry — Leaf, flowers

Lavender — flowers, obviously. Grow in a sheltered location, like near a sunny wall

Nettles — wear gloves to harvest, and only use the leaves

Red Clover — harvest the flower buds, also an attractive plant

Dandelion — the root, once toasted and then ground, tastes remarkably like coffee

Linden — Flowers

Feverfew-flowers, leaves

Anise- leaves

Motherwort - leaves, flowers. Spreads like mint, use caution.

Skullcap - all parts. Use with caution, overdoses can make you ill

Mugwort-leaves

Yarrow - leaves and flowers

The best thing about pretty much all of these is that their low maintenance, and if they aren't annuals they usually reseed themselves.

>>813693
Nice setup bruh, I like it.

>>813708
Oh shit thanks this is pretty nice list

>>813664
>meyer lemon
Is that on a dwarfed stock?

>>813664
I'll be sure to add them to my list. Lemons have so many uses and I would never mind having to many.

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I was out killing slugs because it was raining earlier and I almost treaded on this absolute bro. I put out a toad house about 2 weeks ago and toad spirit must have heard my call and visited me in his own time. You can tell its a spirit and not a regular toad because of how blurry the picture is.

I decided to leave the rest of the slugs to him.

>>813739
The best part of lemon trees is that they can be made to be more than just lemon trees. You want some oranges? Same tree. Limes? Slap a branch on there. Mandarins? Shit yeah. It's great, it sounds like fun, I can't wait.

>>813693
Looks like a neat process you've got there. I'm jelly. How many have you made from that so far?

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>>812703

>>812776
I reckon that would depend on what you're feeding your chickens lol Chicken poop is whatever they aren't digesting.

>>813619
They take years before they fruit anyhow.

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Found a few squash bugs in my garden. First time I've seen them. What's your favorite way to get em? Seems early in the infestation.

Anyone here garden at night? It's been hot as shit in NC and fuck going out in basically 100f. I've been gardening at night when it's nice and cool with a decent light.

Way better than during the day till it cools off.

>>813728
No, its a natural semi dwarf. Thier max height is 10 ft, but they grow extremely well in a pot and in a pot they generally run about 6ft, max. Mine is about 4ft.

>>813748
Oh definitely. I've been wanting an orange and a lime, but I just dont have the room.

>>813788
Neem. Works really well on everything, and it isn't so harsh like insectidal soap.

>>813619
Are you able to bring it inside with enough lighting and heat? If yes, go for it.

>>813804
Late, late evening is my time, when the sun has gone below the trees but hasn't set quite yet. Still enough light to see by but it isn't glaring on me directly.

>>813804
Late, late evening is my time, when the sun has gone below the trees but hasn't set quite yet. Still enough light to see by but it isn't glaring on me directly. I'm very fair, so I'm trying to avoid sunburns. It's ironic, I LOVE the outdoors, but I burn so easily!

>>813710
Take pics of your tea garden bro, love to see it.

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>>813870
I'll go to the local head shop and grab some today.

>>813748
I am really confused. I now some trees are hybrids and can grow several types of fruit. I thought one had to gene slice these trees to achieve this..?

I just moved to NC and was wondering if it was to late to plant a potato plant? I was told by a neighbor it was to late to plant however an old lady down the road said 'do it son'. /out/ which ol' bugger is right and who is fucking with me?

>>813941
Some types of trees are closely related enough that they naturally hybridize, like the meyer lemon which is a cross between a lemon and madrian orange. Others are grafts, where you take the top half and fix it onto the roots of another type. Plants are weird like that.

>>813941
The types that grow 7 or more fruits have had branches from other fruits trees stuck on. They're not hybrids, more like how Frankenstein's monster was made of stitched-together parts.

>>813948
Depending on the type of potato, they both could be right. Some have a long/short growing season. What type do you have in mind?

>>813948
Jeez may be you could spare the 10 cents to plant one you indecisive nu male

>>813575
Nice. You use Benary's?

>>813639
Anon, sounds like a fun little camp. Check out David Spahr on fb. He accepts most everybody. HUGE forager up in Maine. Tell him what you;re doing and he'll probably be able to tell you a dozen things to look for on ACK.

>>813764
That one run, in the photo, made 40-50 tea bags. I may get 3-4 times that much this time around.

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Harvested my first tub of potatoes today. Got another tub where the plants are dying back, should be good to harvest in a few days.

>>814097
Sweet. What kind are they?

>>814099
No idea. My friend gave me 4 spare seed potatoes he had. I sent him a text asking and he doesn't know either.

>>813941
Grafting, son. My grandpa has an awesome mirabelle tree which also grows about half a dozen varieties of plum.

>>813957
Hybrids don't give you different fruits on the same tree though, they just give you hybrid fruits. And it doesn't have to be a half and half graft, that only nets you the fruits of the top tree, and thus is only worth it in a few specific cases (eg walnuts).

>>813948
Old ladies usually know their shit. I'd be willing to wager a few eyes that she's the one who's right. It definitely depends on type of potato though. Ask her what kind she plants.

>>813992
Cheers, thanks for the recommendation.

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Who /hotpeppers/ here?

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>>814097
Similar here
Got a total of about 120m^2 of potato, and picked up less than 1/10 of the area today where the plants had wilted most, will gradually pick the rest because I'm too lazy to do it all at once and I prefer to do it at around 7-9pm when the sun doesn't blaze any more (I sweat excessively way too easily)

>>813948
There's early cultivars that only take about 90 days, so it should be doable if you take those

>>814162
Not this year sadly. I'm saving my chocolate Scorpio and yellow bubblegum seeds for next year. I was requested to grow only stuffing peppers so marconi peppers it is:)

>>814097
>>814167
looks good!
how much harvest does 1sqm generate on average?

I've been looking into getting some houseplants, and maybe starting on some bonsai at some point.
For the houseplants I'm assuming I'd just go to a garden store and buy some.
I've taken a liking to pacific yew (taxus brevifolia), and I'm planning on growing it from seeds. What would be the best way of getting seeds? I've got no issue with going innawoods to find some. I live in washington so they shouldn't be too hard to find.

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>>814252
wanna grow a pepper plant inside? Mine did really well over the winter. I'll mail you some seeds

>>814259
this is the same plant outside for summer
>>814162

>>814259
Clean your room, Anon.

>>814264
that's my desk of things though

>>814266
Your desk is part of the room, Anon.

>>814267
yeah but its my desk of things. I keep my things on it, like little statues and stuff

>>814162
/Bitchpepper/ reporting. My jalapenos aren't princesses and are still hot enough for my cat's tongue. Feels good enough, man.

>>812740
sleep tight meller

>>812740
My watermelon was cut by rabbits

>>814336
My Serranos are at least 15000 on the Scoville scale

>>814252
Try >>814259 anon's seeds. Peppers can make some beautiful bonsai, and thier a bit easier to work with than the traditional species, which are actually meant to be outdoor specimens (they aren't meant to be indoor decorations, despite what you might have seen) I've been growing a succulent myself as a bonsai.

Also, it'll flower, AND produce peppers, which are not only visually attractive but useful. Win-win, I think.

>>814510
>AND produce peppers
You need to manually pollinate the flowers inside tho

>>814531
True, but still: peppers!

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>>813728
Here's my tree. It's already done flowering and has little fruit buds on it.

>>814540
Here's the fruit bud. This plant is prolly 3-4yrs, and its just barely 3ft, most of that height coming from the pot.

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>>814542
Sorry, here's the pic.

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>>814510
My succulent bonsai. Needs a trim, but you get the idea. I might try a pepper.

>>814229
It really depends on the potato variety, care, soil, growing conditions, and method used to farm them.

You might only get amazing green tops with no potatoes or as much as 16lbs per square meter.

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>>813948
Never measured it but like the other guy said, it depends. According to Wiki our German average is about 4-4.5 kg/m^2, but this is commercial farming, plus mine were early ones (put them in mid-April so about 90 days), so I guess I get a bit less than half of that
*goes measuring mid-post 'cause fuck it*
Turns out it was only ~5m^2 I picked and around 11kg, so yeah. Maybe the plants that aren't wilted yet will deliver a bit better

>>814419
Kek, I'm not that one, but the one with the indoor November start plant, which almost died to sunburn in May, then recovered in June - that one is still a bit behind the 6-ish other ones (started in March) though
Pic biggest fruit so far
>3 days ago
95g
>2 days ago
150g
>today
350g

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Squash borers hit me pretty hard, I hate them. I cut out the ones I found today, we'll see what happens.

At least I got visited by this big ol' hawk, he kept on screeching.

If you want pepper seeds email

[email protected]

I'll do my best to mail them
Preferably North America

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...it begins...

>maybe 4chan won't eat my image again

>>814167
Oh nice that looks like a solid haul. My harvest was from a 40-50 litre tub filled about 3/4 of the way (after mounding). I've got a similar, likewise tub that I'm going to let die back a bit more and starve of water for a while to thicken the skins.

Are you planning on curing yours, or do you get through them quick enough that storage isn't a problem?

>>814653
What's your plan for that mound of rocks?

>>814599
Nice, hope that bird sticks around. Great for rabbit and vole patrol.

>>814599
Switch to some more resistant squash brah. My tetsukabuto and argonaut laugh in the face of most squash pests. Not a single borer, and not even fazed by striped cucumber beatles or squash bugs.

>>814634
What kind of pepper seeds do you have?

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>>814749
Walkways between and around the raised beds. Like in this old pic.

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This pepper wasn't totally ripe, will the seeds still germinate? I have some riper ones I'll get seeds from too

Who wants seeds?

>>814773
Serrano
See
>>814162
>>814259
>>814794

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Is it a problem my lemon tree is growing like this?

>>814800
Stake it lightly, to keep it upright. It is probably just a light issue.

>>814823
it's outside right now

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>>814162

Bought a jalapeno this year to try it out but he hasn't done shit.

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>>812317

Update on this guy. I think I'm going to name him Napoleon because he seems intent on taking over my entire garden.

>>814886
That's normal for any member of the squash family.

>>814882
Looks like some tasty purslane you have in the background and in the foreground here >>814886

>>814905

Huh, I didn't know that was edible I was just happy to have it around as ground cover. I'll have to try some the next time I notice it creeping in on one of my plants.

Is there any way I can process weeds pulled from a garden so that they can be turned to mulch, but won't just grow again after I've spread it?
I just figure that what's left of the root in it will replant itself.

Do I have an idea, or am I retarded?

>>814955
full retard
Dry the weeds out completely and let them break down for at least a year. Any weed which has flowered, don't use in compost because the seeds will be dispersed

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I'd like to get into gardening, but its a bit difficult because I'm in college. I still want to go for it though. My home (Texas) has a climate of 8b, while my college (Delaware) is 6b. At home I'm interested in growing:
>Okra
>Sweet potato
>Tomato
>Corn
in June, in December
>Asparagus
>Onion
Back in college, in September I can grow
>Garlic
>Turnip
>Spinach
In April I can grow
>Cape gooseberry
>Carrot
>Onion
>Sunflower
>Tomato
How can I make this feasible? Also, how much of a constraint is climate really? I'd really like to grow strawberries, pistachios, grapes and blackberries but they aren't suited for either climate.

>>814008
Great. Sounds like you've hit the spot on mint tea heaven.

>>814923
Purslane's awesome and a good dose of vitamin C

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Second harvest of the year. Serranos, Cayennes, and a Jalapeno for good measure. Gonna make some fajitas tonight.

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I got some cardboard from some walmart employees doing stocking amd i'm wondering if i should cut and peel off the black ink or is it fine? I'm leaning toward cutting it out. I plan to use it as mulch for my berries.
>pic not related

>>815116
You don't let your serranos go red?

>>815121
It's the first round so I'm harvesting them early to spur production later in the season. The last batch is coming off red and it's gonna be yuuuge.

>>815124
this is my plant now
>>814162

I'm going to let a couple go red so I can get viable seeds out of them, but maybe I'll pick the rest green for salsa

Any peppers that form after late August are unlikely to reach full maturity, so make sure you pick the plant near empty before that time. When the heat of the summer breaks, the plant will explode with flowers.

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>>815127
>Any peppers that form after late August are unlikely to reach full maturity

Tell that to my February yield

>>815128
Ah, I grow them as annuals in the southeast so my growing season is April - November.

>>815130
I'm in Canada, so I brought my plant in for the winter and it did really well

My jalapeno plant is a monster. 5 gallon pot and it's nearly 5 feet tall with over 40 peppers on it. If there's a candidate for overwintering this year, that's the one.

>>815132
decent
My serrano is only 2feet tall and has over 30 peppers now

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Anyone pick up mostly intact roadkill and bury it in their garden?

>>815141
that pic is from Toronto

>>815142
I remember.

>>815143
nevar forget

>>813708
And chicory - can be used as a coffee substitute.

How true is it that putting a plant in a much bigger pot will cause it to focus on root development? I've got a mint plant in a small pot and I'd like to just put it in its final pot now.

>>815150
depends if the plant is rootbound yet.

>>815151
It's not at all.

>>815153
what really affects root development would be to top the plant. It cuts auxens off which then promotes root growth

>>815154
I don't understand.

>>815155
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v93g_g5r3Cw

watch this video, it will explain how plant hormones work

>>815156
I watched it but you haven't answered my question at all. Is it advisable, neither advisable nor inadvisable, or inadvisable to put my mint plant from its non-rootbound state in a small pot into a large pot? Advisable, neither advisable nor inadvisable, or inadvisable? Please respond.

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I want to start learning everything I can about self-sufficiency farming. Does anyone know a good place to start on that?

>>815160
Your local library system. Seriously. I've got at least 5 books about homesteading right now and at least 5 others I've looked through all from my library. When it comes to practical stuff like that your library is a treasure trove. If you particular library doesn't have anything, ask them if they are in partnership with any other counties or townships and see if you are able to borrow from them.

>>815012
well make sure you are spending enough time at one place from planting to harvesting. Or maybe get your parents at home involved if they are interested. Otherwise, just plant something, water it and see how it goes.

>>815160
>>815165
I agree, books are probably the best way to get a comprehensive overview with tactics etc.

There are some interesting youtube channels too, they give nice practical tips and inspiration and show a bit about the daily life of homesteading

>>815158
it depends on the size of the plant. But root growth is largely dependent on plant hormones

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Wonder if I'll see a flower this year. Probably not.

>>815193
>useless reply

>>815198
fucking burn your mint you useless farmer.

>>815158
Mint likes to spread, so if you move from a small to a larger pot the mint plant will develop more roots no problem. In fact, mint will readily root in pretty much anything. I develop my cuttings in just water. If for some reason it is ever root bound, stimulate the root ball by either gently massaging it or cutting a bit of the bottom off. If you do either of these things avoid harvesting from the mint plant for a while because it'll be pretty stressed out. This is pretty much all you need to know about mint, it's a very hardy plant.

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found a dark nasturtium seedling in my garden earlier this year, didn't think much of it and put it in a pot of it's own so I could monitor it, thought the color would fade but it didn't.

it still has black leaves, even the stems and seeds are dark.

it's darker than any known varietion on the marked as far as I'm aware.

should I patent it?

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>>815232
also I'll be growing it from seed a few times first.

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>>815234
the flowers are also red as fuck.

it's way darker than 'empress of india'

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Have a bunch of this bug all over my hot pepper plants. Can anyone identify and advise on what action, if any, that I should take?

>>815239
Kinda looks like a stink bug. Either that or a squash bug. Check the leaves for clusters of small brownish eggs

>>815239
Looks like a common stink bug.

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/galveston/beneficials/beneficial-31_rough_stink_bug.htm

Try not to bother them if they are. They're harmful to pretty much everything BUT you and your plants.

>>815244
>>815239
Squash bug for comparison.

http://www.almanac.com/pest/squash-bugs

>>815222
>being this useless
>being this dumb
>being this bootybothered

>>815231
Thanks!

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>>815257
>being this dumb
if you can't even grow mint without help you lose all right to criticize others.

>>815263
I asked if putting it in a large pot would harm the plant and dud gives me an autistic spiel about AUXINS and then doesn't answer the question at all. My mint is doing just fine I just want to put it in a bigger pot because the bigger pot is self watering.

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Will this pepper survive and produce?

I have abused it . Burned it with fresh manure, it started coming back and then it got shaded by tomatoes so I'm trying it in a pot.

>>815264
bigger pot means more soil, means more nutrients, means more mint depending on whether the soil is actually fertile or not.

I have some mint in the corner of my herb garden, it's sending shoots above ground all over my pavement, mint is a weed.

>>815117
Are you also going to cut off the glue that holds the cardboard together?

>>814955
If your compost pile gets hot enough, the heat can kill the seeds, but it has to be HOT. like, steam-coming-off hot. Composting in a blk barrel in full sun and turning frequently can result in this-it worked for me-and it has the added benefit of killing pathogens and breaking down stuff in RECORD time.

>>815245
But it clearly is eating the plants my retarded cousin

>>815245
That definitely looks like what they are. Thanks. I'll just let them do their thing then.

>>815266
I normally grow the various NuMex cultivars and not many others, but, my experience is that, once established, peppers are tough. I wouldn't be surprised to see it produce, but the toughness could be a pepper thing, or it could just be that the NuMex cultivars do well in New Mexico, which is a brutal place for plants.

>>815146
Oooh, yeah, I forgot. Such a nice looking plant too.

>>815232
That's an attractive plant there. Breed ot first, and make sure it's not just a fluke, then yes, patent it. I'd buy seeds from that.

>>815235
>>815234
>>815232
Now that's a pretty plant.

>>815165
>>815170

I will do.

Do you know if homesteading books are all about full-time farming in order to fully sustain a family of six or can it also be about less than full self-sufficiency?

>>815322
Yes to both. I've found an UNBELIEVABLE amount of stuff on this subject at the local library. Thiers books on urban homesteading on less than an acre, thiers books on preserving soil quality for commercial farms, seriously. Everything.

Also, many local colleges will have an agricultural dept. that are more than willing to entertain your questions. My local MSU actually has a toll-free number specifically set up for people to ask random gardening questions.

Many state governments may even have grants available for you to start your farm.

>>815272
just because a bug is on a plant doesn't mean it's eating it. Many insects are hunters. Chances are there's a different insect eating it and this guy has come to eat them. I linked both sites because he needs to physically pick one up and compare it. No use killing something that's going to help you

>>815263
>>815264
Mint is a good starter plant because no matter how much you fuck up it'll probs pull through. Layoff and be more constructive. Some plants do require to be potted special so it's always best to ask

>>815322
>>815328
What this guy said. You'll find books on from city apartment homesteading to starting you own farm for profit.

It's unbelieveable how useful your local library is when you are doing real-world stuff with real-world consequences. Its easy to brush off your library's extensive catalogue when you're just reading the latest fiction.

But about you question I suggest you just get a bunch of books and pick and choose. When I want to dive into a new topic I get practically as many books as I can carry on it. Sometimes making two trips, then I sort the old from the new, the relevant from the irrelevant, the definitely-read cover-to-cover from the skim-the-interesting-bits from the return-immediately. If your library has no limit do not be shy about getting armfuls and armfuls of the books you like. Just be mindful of returning the ones you won't read or skimming the skim-the-interesting books first to be pro-social about it.

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>>815268
Nope. Just ended up cutting of the ink and thats it. Here's one of my elderberry plants I just put down. I mean to put grass over it but it been raining, which is nice.

Is there a ground cover (zone 8) that I can plant next month that will do some good for my heretofore unused garden plot? It's a bit clay-y so maybe something with a deep taproot?

Does anything grow over the winter?

>>815447
Red or white clover is good for zones 4 and warmer, so maybe look into that. It can be harvested as feed for animals or used for tea as well.

>>815447
Is this just going to be fallow this year, and are you planning on planting there again? Do you want something permanent? If you just want a cover crop for the winter, you can wait until fall and plant winter rye or winter wheat.

When we get to #65 of the gardening thread, I'll post an update of my corn and true garlic seed. There is some interesting stuff going on. Then I'll post some pics of this year's peppers to show you why I want locally adapted, genetically diverse crops, because my peppers are fucked up this year.

Will chicken wire keep out hares? I think they keep munching on my eggplants.

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>>815315
if it doesn't grow from seed I could just take cuttings, it's technically a perennial plant anyway.
>>815352
>Some plants do require to be potted special
name one that isn't an orchid.

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>>815612
>name one that isn't an orchid.

Rhododendron catawbiense

>>815644
it's the same as every other Rhododendron or any 'foresty' type of plant for that matter.

well-drained organic garbage.

>>813562
>>813564
>>813566
>>813569
>>813572

Beautiful.

>>815494
Yeah. I tried planting okra seedlings and nothing happened. When I got my soil test back I saw why. very acidic and not as fertile as I thought by half. Now that I'm saying this out loud I don't think anything would grow there if I tried. So never mind. I'll just lime, fertilize, and wait until next year.

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>>815369
And elderberry 2. Now with grass mulch and slug traps.

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>>815658
Now with correct orientation. BTW, does this mulch look okay? Not too thick or anything?

How do I know when a bean is ready to harvest?

Do I just wait until it stops getting bigger?

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I got this pepper plant on my birthday, and i think its beautiful.
But the proper name was nowhere on the tag.

So could some Anon here identify it for me?

>>815612
>name one that isn't an orchid..

Cacti

>>815659
So long as it doesn't block all air and it allows water it should be fine. Though, make sure your mulch isn't chemically hot as to cause root burn. Yard clipping typically need to be spread out and dried in the sun until they are a crispy golden color. Then apply them. Applying them while still green can cause thermal cooking too.

Pine needles should be applied when brown, but they don't seem to have the thermal cooking effect when green and thinly layered.

>>815663
lol when I was scrolling past this I thought it was a bird of paradise plant. That's a pretty neat pepper.

It is most likely some cultivar of C. frutescens.

>>815669
Thank you

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>>814653
Getting further and further. Soon the gravel will be done. I still need to get some landscaping timbers for the edging.

>>815667
what's so special about sandy dirt?

>>815654
>acidic

You can grow something that I cannot. Blueberries. I have very alkaline soil. They like very acidic soil. For a lot of plants, the listed PH range is way to narrow, but blueberries really do like a low PH. Try some.

>>815677
Well I've already limed it so I'll see next year if it's still in range. It would be pretty dope if all I grew were berries of one form or another.

>>815612
>name one that isn't an orchid.

Lotus

>>815680
do you mean Lotus sp or water lilies?

not that it matters, either isn't very demanding when it comes to soil.

>>815678
Just FYI, a lot of times when you see a PH range listed on seed packets, nobody has actually tested this. I've seen cultivars that were developed in my area with listed ideal PHs of between 6 and 7, when the soil that they were bred in had a PH of 8-8.5. Blueberries are one of the plants that PH really does matter, however, so those values are not always full of shit.

>>812907

Whatup fellow Floridiot

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anybody know how to save my blackberries?
its a wild one that i just found in some woods and brought home
have checked for bugs and couldn't find any signs of them, so its probably a disease or something

>>815675
Looking good. The timber's going to cover up those bricks right?

>>815743
How long has it been in that pot? Like did you transfer it last week or is this one you've had nearly a year?

Kinda looks like magnesium deficiency, but with less yellowing. Keep in mind that a blackberry cane only lasts 2 years. the 1st year is all growth and only in the second year it fruits. Then that cane will die, but during the fruiting year, new canes will pop up to replace the one that will die later.

>>815612
>name one that isn't an orchid.

Wasabi

>>815763
they literally grow in gravel.

>>815768
>>815689
>>815676
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>>815612
Orchid literally grow in bark and moss. What's so special about that?

Nothing. Everything needs its own environment if you are to take it out of its normal environment and put it into a pot.

>>815768
>"name one that isn't an orchid."
>multiple examples are given
>"lol what's so special about that?"
m8

>>815762
its just last week i got it, its actually 2 small bushes so its probably from this year.
are you sure it could be defiecency? 75% of the soil is from the forest i got it and none of the plants over there showed sign of it. it would however explain why its spreading to the other small bush in the pot.

>>815774
Length of time is what I needed to know. It could just be tranplanting shock or improper drainage or overwatering.

Also, are you sure it is a blackberry? Looks like more like a Black Elderberry in >>815743

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>>815770
the special thing about orchids isn't their soil, it's the lack of it, many are epiphytes.
>>815772
none of the examples I've been given so far are even remotely tricky to grow, they'll do fine in regular potting soil.

I can't help that you suck at growing plants.

>>815777
overwatering sounds pretty likely, i really suck at plants
and im confident its blackberry, because the nearby blackberry bushes already had some berries beginning and because i have never seen elderberry grow in that forest

>>815612
>name one that isn't an orchid.

Tillandsias

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>>815782
You can't run away from your mistakes.

>>815783
No sense shitting on a guy for cleaning up after himself.

>>815612
>name one that isn't an orchid.

Drosera

>>815612
>name one that isn't an orchid.

Billbergias

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>>815782
tillandsias aren't even potted m8.
>>815786
grows in any shitty soil.
>>815788
grows in literally everything.

am I this good at growing plants or are you guys just that bad at it.

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Anybody from Ontario here?

>>815790
Orchids are epiphytic plants along with many other types of plants which all normally require special growing mediums. A lot of which have been listed.

Funny thing is, orchids can be grown in just about anything to since it is more about what you feed them than what the growing medium is. which completely negates your entire point.

>>815797
most orchids have some stupid specific way in which they like to grow.

I honestly can't think of any plants that are hard to grow in a pot.

>>815800
Your stupid

>>815802
kek

>>815800
You're an idiot. How shallow, dirt composition, and drainage are all important considerations when potting a plant if you want it to be healthy. Yeah you can stick anything in a jar of dirt and it might grow but that isn't the same as growing well. You're the sort that puts a deep rooting plant in a shallow pot and wonders why it does shitty. Shouldn't you be out landscaping some grass or whatever

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>>815806
potting plants isn't rocket science.

all my potted plants do extremely well.

>>815809
It can still be difficult for someone who's new. After you learn a handful of things you'll be alright 95% of the time. I'd rather people ask questions, get answers, and learn than you name fag around shooting people down. If you know so much contribute to the thread rather than be condescending. It doesn't impress anyone.

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>>815811
I almost forgot /out/ is almost entirely beginners.

I'm constributing pictures of my plants, don't you like them?

Can we back off of the autism a bit here? A little can be fun, but this is just cruel.

>>815818
This is what happens every time someone tries to contradict bugguy. He sees himself as an expert and can't handle being wrong, like most tripfags, so the best thing to do is just let him be and ignore him.

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>>815819
>He sees himself as an expert
those are your words not mine.

>>815809
kys

>>815813
Shut the fuck up bugguy

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The I was bored in my backyard raised bed hasn't collasped. I overcrowded everything and also planted late but it was all leftovers material and sticks. So no loss.

>>815829
what is this abomination

>>815840
Looks like an african farm to me. Maybe anon wanted to try something exotic.

>>815829
If it works, go for it. I did much the same thing with some volunteer tomatoes one winter. I gained a lot of useful information and experience.

>>815844
those are some weird looking watermelons

>>815746
No, it will only ring the very outside. The cinder blocks with the red bricks on top are what the finished product. Though, a few of them just need leveled, dressed, and restacked.

>>815857
>a few of them just need leveled, dressed, and restacked.
No, a few of them (all of them) need to be covered with either cement or wood. Make that shit look good.

>>815819
This is true. There is no exception when it comes to people who with to be known amongst the anonymous.

Deutschland Deutschland über alles

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>>815840
I didn't realize how much 12 cy of gardening soil would be. So I've been experimenting (otherwise know as playing in the dirt) with raised beds. I'm broke so it's just whatever I can salvage.

>>815867
The entire thing needs to be fluid and moveable/adjustable. It doesn't need to look good one bit.

>>815894
Cozy

Out of 50 seeds one of my bambos sprouted. Any tips on caring for the seedling? I want to keep this piece of shit alive.

>>815920
You don't have to try with bamboo. That shit will stay alive whether you want it to or not.

>>815933
I figured that the sprouts are fickle or something. I've been trying for months and this is the only one to sprout.

>>815920
You've already done the hard part. Nothing special left to do.

>>815940
This one will send out roots and soon there'll be fifty stalks anyway.

>>815940
Once it is pretty tall you can divide it up (google how) and make as many plants as you want. If it is a running invasive species then you are already doomed and you need to move to Canada to avoid the coming bamboo apocalypse..

What is the scientific name of the one you are growing?

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>>814592
>>812740
2 days later, exactly 666g
Really fascinating to see such fast progress for the first time, though the last few days have been considerably cooler (highs of 20-25°C, lows down to 10-15°C)
Think I'll continue going full autism and documenting the progress, but thinning out the measurement intervals eventually

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>>815990

>>815989
Phyllostachys nigra. I'm pretty sure it's a running species and not a clumper. But it's considered non-invasive from what I've read.

I plan on keeping it in a pot until it's a bit large. I want to then condition the rhizomes in a trench so I can have a bamboo fence. I'm in zone 5b though so I don't know how realistic that is.

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