What do your packs look like?

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>>793802

>>793802
Is that a banchee?

If so how do you like it?

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MR ASAP

>>793817
Nope, Terra 45, pretty nice, very little extra storage for smaller things.

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No school like the old school.

>>793842
interesting. I am so torn on TNF- some of this stuff is really great and great on the price point but they diluted their brand with so much garbage that its hard to make heads or tails of whats what.

looks like its held up nicely though.

Hey guys does anyone knows the reason why all this patch flags are made without the actual flag colors? like in >>794089

>>794102
It's an infrared reflector so it shows up on night vision goggles. Basically for friend-or-foe identification.

>>794108
Oh ok. So it's not just colorless, most be made with some special thread or something. Thanks for taking the time anon

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looks like this most of the time,
but with waterbottles on both sides

>>794089
I have no beef with old school style but that does seem like a high center of gravity. Have you had any issues with balance?

>>794122
The valise on the top is all light squishy stuff: sleeping bag, bivi bag, spare clothes, raingear, etc. Bottom pack is heavy stuff: food, water, fuel, pots, stove, filter, etc.

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>>793802

Mine is a bit stacked but gets the job done.

>>794531
Might want to get some thick rubber bands or little velcro loops to tidy up those loose straps. They might end up getting caught in branches and whatnot as you hike. Just roll them up and put something around them to keep them from flopping around.

>>794557
Cheers, yeah most are tidied except for the ones I actively use daily for compression.

>>794531
>>794158
>>794120
>>794089
>>793832
>>793812
>>793807
>>793802
For day trips these packs are not necessary, something smaller should be used, around 15L -25L

>>794604
Maybe these packs sent all being used for day trips, why would you assume that?

>>794604
>>794609
>imblyign my tackle bag is too large for a day trip

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I carry a lot less these days and replaced the mat with folding egg carton type.

>>794604
Mine is a canyon guiding pack.
>>794531

>>794089
r u in da army?

I wish I would stop being a pussy and just invest in a 64 ruck.

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>Day pack, has a laptop pocket, use it to/from work
>Ancient backpacking pack, it did Philmont in '99. I've probably had it for 20 years. Don't use it much anymore, mostly when I take all my camera gear out on the moto.
>Avalanche airbag pack for snow use, along with all the other rescue gear
>Moto pack for day/evening rides. Toolkit, camelbak, radio, FAK, fieldbook/registration/insurance/etc, survival stuff. (It's actually an old snowmobile pack.)

I've got another avalanche airbag pack (Highmark Pro) not pictured, in addition to the Highmark II in the photo.

>>794604
Who the fuck said they were for day trips you autist lol

>>794089
How does the 64 compare to an ALICE pack?

The spacing and kidney pads on the 64 look more comfortable but the straps look like they'd chaffe your shoulders.

>>794817
Never tried an ALICE pack, so I wouldn't really know. My understanding was that the 64 was originally the American 62 pattern lightweight rucksack, which was replaced by the ALICE because the ALICE was cheaper. Simpler construction, less aluminum and more steel. With LBJ's expansion of the Vietnam war they couldn't afford to equip everyone with the 62s, and needed something cheaper. Canada bought the used 62s, upgraded all the components for winter use by changing the hardware and kept using them until the 80s when they started running out of replacements. Airborne and recce troops kept using them up until a few years ago though.

The one I have is mostly aftermarket components. The originals are 50+ years old and have seen really harsh use so it's basically impossible to find a serviceable original. The frame, A7As, and valise are original though. Pretty much impossible to destroy those.

The suspension system I have on it is really comfy. No complaints about the straps or anything. Best thing about these rucks is that all your gear is held together really tightly so there's no jostling or bouncing as you move. Makes things a little easier on your back and shoulders since your load isn't flopping all over the place as you move.

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Simplicity is key.

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My base camp day bag. Full size pack is back at my tent atm.

>>794978
burton makes my favorite "normal" backpacks for sure. quality is great. warranties are amazing. custom service is top notch.


i broke a zipper called them up and they sent me an even better one with an apology.

>>793807
That's a fancy car you've got there, BOY.

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>>794604
not for day trip friendo

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>>795086
>4 x spam singles cooker
noice

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>>794978
just got the Burton kilo camo today, used it for gym.

seems like its going to be a good day pack and I can use the skateboard straps for a camera tripod like >>793811 did.

might take pictures tomorrow in the light if I remember.

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Just got the pack a couple days ago, can't wait to take it out.

>>795086
Is that an Aether 85? How you liking it? Been looking at one myself but when you see it empty on the rack at the store it's hard to tell if I'll be able to fit all my shit inside of it.

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>>795168
no, its the Atmos 50 ag.

most comfortable pack ive ever owned, fantastic weight displacement, good layout, love that the rain cover is velcro attached to the top not the bottom like on other packs, the 2 position water bottle sides are nice and easy grab in theory but i dont know what kind of snake-like contortionist you would have to be to put it back.

the suspension system is fantastic and it rides like a dream, literally my only 2 complaints is t side bottle thing and that the larger models couldnt be adjusted to fit my back
10/10 pack would recommend

>>794907
Sounds like the 64 is about the same pack then.

ALICE packs have a problem with the frame where it causes your pack to sit about 3" off your back/waist, which is some unpleasant leverage.

I'm considering nabbing a 64 Ruck frame to replace with: is there any similar spacing issues with them?

I appreciate the info by the way

>>794089
I could strap that on a pattern 82 webbing, more air flow to the back

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>>795244
The 64 pattern doesn't have the weird V-shaped spacer and shelf that the ALICE has. The curve of the frame is right against your back with very little gap.

This pic is the kidney belt I have (not the bag or straps though). As you can see it's belt, frame, bag with very little gap in between.

>>795263
Sacrilege.

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not my picture, but same setup.
HPG Ute with Connor pocket

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Over nighter

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My downsizing now that I live in the tropics.

>>795266
Cool, thanks mate!

>>794640
What do you ride

>>793802
Thumbnail looks like droopy dog

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>>794930

>>796294
rundown on this setup plz?

>>796299
$45 frame pack from Cal Ranch store.
65L Accend dry bag from Bass Pro Shop.

Pack has a very awesome waist belt, is very adjustable (for my long torso) and the whole setup is far superior to the A.L.I.C.E.frame pack I was considering.

Basically change out the drybag to any size or option from fire wood to elk quarters.

Me like.

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>>796304
Added motorcycle helmet bungee web after first pic.

>>796304
>>796329
thats a dope setup man

>>793811

How do you like those fetheads? I've got one and it seems to change the tone a bit (maybe my imagination). Not that that's a bad thing - sometimes I like it.

>>796510
I freakin love em! I'm using them with condenser mics though (this model is intended for dynamic mics) but I haven't noticed any real change except the sweet ~22dB gain. What mics and preamp/interface do you use yours with? It could be changing the tone simply by supplying a different impedance to your pre/interface than the mic itself would. I've tested mine with my dynamic mics and doesn't seem anything objectively different to me really, just less noise.

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Heres my usual gear although I need new bolts for the xbow

>>794102
Because bright colors like the red in the Canadian flag aren't good for camouflage

>>794108
>>796840
Both of these are correct.

How in the shit do you folks organize your gear within your bag? I always see people posting BOBs that have 100 little items, so they just throw that shit inside and hope for the best?

I have a daypack that i use for kayaking and to carry my main gear when i go on a longer venture but it doesnt have a ton of smaller pockets so when i pack for a long trip it hets sort of messy. I usually pack within it for the longer treks;
-leatherman surge
-firestarters
- mcirofib towel
-ferro rod
-fillet knife
-regular knife ( prolly gonna ditch this soon, already have the leatherman to do most tasks )
-headlamp
-lantern
-batteries
-lifestraw
- first aid
-small duct tape roll
- coupe lighters

Among some other shit i just cant think of atm. What do you guys do to organize?

>>799389
>How in the shit do you folks organize your gear within your bag?

Ziplock bags for the most part, but most bags have multiple pockets and compartments to help with this.

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Ready for tomorrow

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>>796507
Thanks. From last Jan @ +9600'.

>>799961
You going to secure that hammock more than dangling it from a karabiner? I feel like I wouldn't get far with it swinging so much.

>>800049
Ill probably move it somewhere more comfortable along the way

>>795340
5.11 tac, lovin it

>>800461
As someone with a 5.11 48hr and an osprey kestrel 48L i can tell you 5.11 is fucking innappropriate for innawoods

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A manly pack doesent have modern luxuries.

>>801834
Shit, that's a comfy as fuck look

>>801834
I choose my gear based on functionality, not feels.

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>>801929
> being this edgy

Danm dude. Let people choose their /fa/g gear the way they want to!

>>793802
What kind of gun is that?

>>794120
osprey

>mah nigga

>>793802
What is the smallest size pack for a week, or two week hike? How many Cubic Centimeter do I need?

>>801965
You could manage with 40L if you pack well

>>801968
Is not carrying a stove possible?

>>794120
is this an AG? How do you like it?

>>801968
I was thinking of going with the Gregory Deva 60
I am 5'2", female 110 lbs, without getting measured I am thinking I see a small. which would give me 54ls

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>>795363
How the fuck did you get your pack lid on the bottom like that?

Anyone who has a ULA circuit, what do you guys think of it? Thinking about grabbing one for when I want to do a thru-hike soon. But if the Atmos 65 AG is significantly more comfortable and durable, I feel like I'd rather grab that instead and just take the 1.5lb hit.

>>801968
>>801965
A week in 40L is not going to be possible unless a) you are going super ultralight b) you are going to be hiking in a place with absolutely ideal weather all the time.

Just 7 days worth of food is going to take up a lot of space.

>>802058
If making a small fire every time you need it is possible then sure.

>>802063
Should work out. Don't pack it full of stuff you don't need and you'll be fine

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>>802058
Look up "bushbox" on google. Very small folding woodstove which is much more efficient than open fire.

>>802058
Can you eat non cooked food?
The answer is yes.
Some thru hikers go for months without cooking/stove. You just eat stuff that don't need cooking.

>>802069
>Just 7 days worth of food is going to take up a lot of space.
As someone who has hiked with food rations of up to two weeks it surprised me how little place food actually took compared to what I imagined it will beforehand.
40L is pretty constrictive if you carry a tent, sleeping bag and cold weather cloths+rain gear.

Alternatively in warmer climates you'll probably need to carry a lot more water...

>>801968
If you're asking this here, then the answer is probably no, for you.

>>793832
Holy fucking unnecessary. That's a lot of fire power my man, where you headed?

>>801929
That's probably why you look like a retard in the woods. Aint nothing wrong with looking good.

>>802119
A gay bar.

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>>802099
>>802069
>>801965
It really depends on your gear. Folks with very high quality tents, rain gear, and sleeping gear miiiight be able to do a 40L for extended trips, but it would still be pushing it. If you have an older model large tent, or a bulky synthetic sleeping bag, or rain gear that doesn't roll up well, then forget about it. (I'm aware you can stash some of that outside the pack)

It also depends on what kind of food you're bringing. If you can afford to buy all dehydrated/freeze dried meals in pouches, then 1-2 weeks worth of food is doable as it is so light. But if you are like me and pack rice, sardines, GORP, stuff from the international food isle at the super market, then 1-2 weeks worth of food is going to weight a lot more.

Honestly I use a 70L for all my trips. I always have, I probably always will. I have extra space for shorter trips, and sometimes that allows me to bring some fun stuff I wouldn't normally like a bag of popcorn, a kite, whatever I feel like.

Also I just don't want to buy a smaller bag if I have something that works already. Although they do look nice.

>>801834
Metrosexual male detected

>>801834
>>801929
>>801943
>>802123
>>802145

lol. by woods do you mean the forest of gay boners that'll be entering you? how about you take the first step towards being manly or just being not a bitch and actually use that shit. Your pack is too clean. All your shit looks like it went directly from the UPS box into this ridiculous picture. If you have a pot/kettel packed away in that bag, that mug is still too clean to have ever been used near a open fire. Ya can't even be bothered to take that shit to a park to take a picture with a tree or some grass in it.

Goddamn. You got all your shit strapped to the only strap on the pack "modern luxuries". All you've done is inconvenience yourself if you want to grab anything. It's a fucking DAY PACK and you're hauling an expensive axe like your gonna go bushcraft your ass some shelter and all that youtube shit. Can't fit too many days worth of food in there. Can't fit much of anything but you've got an axe and a rediculous mug.

I'm not against being a beginner. I'm not against bushcraft or axes or fjallraven or even tin mugs. In fact I wouldn't be against this picture if you hadn't included some bullshit statement about eschewing luxuries.

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>>802161
>by woods do you mean the forest of gay boners that'll be entering you?

jesus christ i'm dying

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>>802161
Dayum bro.

>>802066

I'm on the PCT right now. I'd say the vast majority of hikers are carrying either the Circuit or some type of Osprey, with the Circuit being a fair amount more popular. It's really a great pack and was pretty much designed for thru-hiking. As for fit/comfort, the only way you'll know is by trying them on. Tons of satisfied hikers using either pack. I'm using a Circuit, kind of wish I got the Ohm 2.0 though because it's smaller and lighter.

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>>802161
couldn't have put it better myself

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>>802161
Did a 10 day bush camp stint with this pack in northwest Maine so yes bush crafting ready, and please explain how none of that is used I wash it after it gets rain water on it you plebeian. Also just bought that mug yesterday my old one is pic related you faggot

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>>802161
This ones for you, 3 posts in one day, go back to /b/ you faggot, man up and get your tacticool head out of the mud.

>>802161
I have the same mug as that guy how is it ridiculous?

>>802640
Lool buddy i already explained in my reply that i know a little*lot* more than you when it comes to operating in the woods you fucking scrub

Take your shitty mug and stick it deep in your auchwitz while you beat off to bear grylls and his shitty gerber contract of faggotry laiden knives.

Youre a festy little tumour kid ill tell you that


1/10 for making me reply

>>802649
If you think that I would own anything made by Gerber you're a fucking idiot and don't mix the words operating and woods you tacticool mall equipped fag.Put your money where your mouth is and post your pack fag.

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>>802161
Is this you anon? go back to /k/ you inexperienced loser

>>802301
How is it? How far have you gotten? When did you leave? How much did it cost? What gear do you have?


Sorry for all of the questions, I want to do it so bad, unfortunately I still have another 2 years before I'll get my chance.

>>802640
Damn I wish I wasn't such a poorfag. Gimme dat cash bruh.

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>>802649
>operating in the woods

I wish the Houston County Sheriff's Response Team would just leave /out/.

>>802639
>google image search

nice pinterest mug

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Kelty coyote 80. This pic is from when I just bought it. Stuffed with a pillow. I don't keep my tent on the bottom anymore either.

>>803085
do you put it on top or inside? I have trouble deciding where to put stuff on my pack. I have an external frame...

>>803088
I put it inside and out my puss pad on the bottom

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>>803088
>>803092

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>>803088
>>803092
>>803094
Hmm yeah that's kinda what I've been doing. Here's the only pic I could find of my pack all packed-up I think I wanted my hammy on top to keep it better protected (it has arch poles to hold the canopy up and I didn't want to damage them by dropped my pack down on the ground.

Trouble is, I only brought my light fleece sleebin bag because it was hot this time but if I had to bring my bigger winter bag I'd have quite the conundrum. Always bring my little sidehammock too because it's such a joy to be able to sit on it and hold all my stuff alongside my regular hammock.

>>803052
Who do you think posted it to Pinterest shithead?

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>>803052
Want my login info fag?

>>803104
just take a nap and calm down friend

>>803104
lol, pinterest under sports on iphone. is that full contact pinterest or two hand touch?

lil bitch has too much time on his hands arguing with ppl on the internet.

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Made it myself :)

>>803173
sheeit that's some handsome work anon

>>795340
We have the same sleeping bag :^)

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>>803170
>lil bitch has too much time on his hands arguing with ppl on the internet.

Irony: The Post

>>803173
Very impressed, almost jealous. Beautiful bag.

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>>803173
must have taken a long time because you seem to have fallen behind on your general car service anon

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>>801834
>manly
>looks like this
nah

>>803173
How much does it all weigh? Just curious.

>>803012
Awesome. Beautiful terrain, cool people from all over the world. I'm at mile 907, Mammoth Lakes, about a third of the trail. Left May 6 ( a little late but I'm a little fast). I haven't been tracking costs thAt much but gear, including clothing, was probably around $1,500-2,000 for me. Costs per mile for food, fuel, occasional motel stay... Maybe $1.50/mile? There are better cost breakdowns out there from pct bloggers.

I have pretty typical pct gear. Ula circuit, tarp tent moment dw, enlightened equipment quilt, mh ghost whisperer jacket, running shorts, darn tough socks etc. Wearing Altra lone peak shoes... EVERYONE is wearing these, they're so damn comfortable. Let me know if you have other q's. Heading back to the trail tmrw so it might be a few days before I can respond.

>>803096
I wouldn't mind going Broback with you

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>>803173
>>803178
>>803259
>>803268
Last I remember, it was around 45 lbs for an overnight including water, excluding the shovel. I haven't weighed the pack by itself, but yes it is very heavy by modern standards.
Pic related is a day pack I recently made, although it is more /fa/ than /out/
Right now I am working on a large pack with modern materials. Cordura, zippers, plastic buckles etc.

>>803280
What other tents do you see on trail? Been eyeing the BA Fly Creek UL 2. I'm not a big fan of anything that uses trekking poles to set up. I want to be able to use it after the PCT and I don't use trekking poles often

>>803323
Big Agnes tents are very common on the pct, esp the fly creek and the copper spur. With the fly creek, I've heard many complaints about the the front entrance, most seem to prefer the side entrance of the copper spur.

>>803096
Where'd you get that hat, senpai?

>>803302
Beautiful bag though. Looks like something for the more 'matured' outdoorsman.

>>795340
which one is this?

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No too bad. Pretty oversized, but lightweight
Usually take one of the guns, my buds will take other

>>793807
Is there any board you don't trip on

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>>804358
from what i can see the only one trippin' ITT is you anon

>>802119
> A rifle in an intermediate cartridge
> HOLY UNNECESSARY
I want to believe this is a joke

>>800461
5.11 is garbage for actual use mate, I had one last deployment because I'm a lazy piece of shit and didn't bother buying a decent assault pack, it broke on me within three weeks.

Of course, I was in the desert, with all my shit on my back or strapped to a humvee 99% of the time, so there was very little time it wasn't supporting it's own weight


Varusteleka's Sarma assault packs are fucking great, especially for the price
I'd buy those instead

>>802910
> /k/
> Swords
> Not knowing their shit about packing

/k/ is about combat loads, not hiking for funsies
Stay mad anon

>>802130
kek

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Mystery Ranch ASAP at the range. Ooh yeah :)

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>>804567
Fuckkk, round two!

>>804553
I beg to differ sir. 10.5 pounds dry pack over here.

>>804363
What's the hate for pepsifag? I like this guy. I've been enjoying his posts for a couple years now. Godspeed anon.

>>804575
Idunno, I think Peps' is a good guy too. A lot of anons just have this automatic vitriol for name/tripfags. I think it comes from being an overshadowed beta in school.

>>793832
arsenal?
i use the slr 107
sexy piece my friend.
<3 /k/ovs

>>795167
thats like the perfect hat. ive been looking for a hat like that that doesnt cost 100's of dollars.

>>802132
that's pretty. where is that?

>>804583
it's because it's an anonymous image board, an d shitty tripfags ruin the ambiance

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>>804640
>ambiance
oh lel

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>>793802
Is that a famas?

>>804701

I always thought your room would look cooler without those metal signs.

>>793802
I almost bought a backpack today at the camping store outlet. Some good deals there, like 70% off. I didn't get it because I wasn't sure what I needed, figured I should look into what I need first.

>>804701
Is that fast food?

>>801945
Clearly that is a Famas

>>804708
In-n-out is more than just fast food. It's quality you can taste. That's what a hamburger's all about.

>>799389
Bags in bags.

Use the cheap, shitty MOLLE bags for categories of things.
>cooking
>food
>tent tools
>fire making
>fishing
>first aid
>hygene
>clothes
>electronics/solar panels
>tools misc (tape, knife, torch, etc)
>Nav (Maps, compass, wireless hotspot if travelling in urban areas)
>gun shit probably (live in Aus, so nofuns)
>whatever the fuck else you want (playing cards, books, pens/pencils, lube, zip ties, condoms, duct tape, candy)

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>>804358
I post on 2 boards...

I posted on /k/ once, and /asp/ like twice, and it's funny seeing how butthurt people get when a new trip shows up.

>>801834
>buying a $200 small axe

Good lord. Not gonna lie though, if I had money to blow I'd buy the highest quality stuff too

>>804757
I just organize first aid, fire, and water/cooking
Everything else just gets tossed together in whatever pockets will hold them with the tent strapped to the bottom
But I'm not nearly as experienced as most people on this board so I'd probably be no help

>>803284
Hell yeah bro same.

>>803602
I got it at an outdoors store in Tulsa. It's a Patagonia hat though you could probably find it on their website.

>>803602
Patagonia

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>>795470
Polaris 800 Assault, KTM 525.

>>804835
Nice

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FILBE actually super comfy. Not a huge fan of the Molle wank though

>>804768
Yeah, as you can see I like to invest in quality. I haven't chopped down that many trees with it yet, but I think it pulls the pack together nicely.

>>804585
Thanks, I trip as either centralflfag or SynSerp. It is an Arsenal. xm55 batch too but I've had only minor bbqing action after dumping 120 rounds.

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>>805455
ty comfy br/o/s

>>804929
>hates Molle
>has MurderKube patch
I like you.

>>805455
Points for glorious Fjällräven products

>>805070
>I think it pulls the pack together nicely
As long as it looks good, that's what I always say. Form > Function.

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>>794089
>>800048
>>803173
cool af
>>795086
I need to cop that cooker
>>805459
I fucking love the cup so much

this is a week pack, plenty of room I've left for food and hunting/fishing/trapping gear if needed

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>>805795
anon you live in a world we all dream to be a part of

>>804640
>ambiance
Are you an actual gayfag? That seems like something a gayfag would say...

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>>805918
Not him but anon I'm a gay and I would never utter such faggotry

>>805918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

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No frills set up for me weekend/3 day pack. The estwing is new but I love this pack with a passion.

>>804760
>reddit is that way

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Pretty fucking stoked just picked up pic related for 35 dollars slightly used at this huge garage sale.
Kelty 'Red Cloud' 6650 Backpack

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>>806585
>tfw Reddit is too confusing

Been linked to a couple articles on there before and I'm just totally lost. I think I'll stay here for the time being.

>>806214
w2c those shoes friend?

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>>793802

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>>806863
Durr

High peak pocatello 70L

In some of the reviews the reviewers criticize the lack of a side-loading zipper. I guess they just overlooked them because mine has one on each side, it's just hidden under a pleat.

>>806761
I bought mine at Academy. Merril Moab mid. They come in at 1 other color that I know of but that's the most common one I see. They're amazing for the price and I switched out the insoles for a little extra comfort and support. Worth every penny.

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contents:
3 fedoras
1 crack pipe
1 "King" brand disposable butane lighter (rigged for ~6" of flame)
1 cotton sock found beside a dumpster (for personal hygiene)

>>806891
Euphoric

>>804701
no windows in shot

>confirms living in his mom's basement and pretending it's a bunker. the illusion is broken only when a delivery of fresh tendies arrives from upstairs

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it works ok

>>801834
Wanna know how I know you don't really innawoods

>>793812
why camo tarp and hat
but neon orange/yellow backpack?

>>807291
lets hear it

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>>807291
c'mon anon we're waiting here

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UL for the win

also: why does /k/ always wreck /out/ threads ?

>>807310
because they're inherently degenerate. and being muhguns nuts isn't in itself what makes them degenerate, it's just another symptom

>>793832
352/386?

>>802061
i love it

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>>795165
i forgot to take a full photo of the bag but you can see the top here.

that counts, right?

>>807310
Like you UL fags aren't worse than vegans at a pig picking when it comes to anything you take with you weighing more than a pound? Right...

>>804567
>>804569
This in Florida?

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Finally upgraded, the Kelty is on its last legs

>>807310
how has this thread been wrecked? >>807316

>>808036
It hasnt. Its just another way for them to try claim superiority for no real reason.

>>801945

AK47

Zastava N-PAP to be precise. They're okay AK rifles, but they only accept Zastava parts. So they don't accept common AK parts, barrels, and furniture. Correct me if I am wrong, but I did see N-PAP on the side.

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>>804585

>tfw too cheap to buy a good Saiga or Arsenal, but are in love with the AK platform.

Seriously nigga. When will the Russian arms embargo end. I want my $700 Izhmash AK. Ruskie weapons are the ultimate outdoor rifle.

>>802640
>>802640
W2c that cap

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>>808075
> build a kit 922r

>>806214
Jesus fuck, why would you voluntarily use that Swedish crap?

They're standard issue for the National Guard here - no one who has a dollar to their soul will use it more than once.

I even tried attaching a waist belt and new straps to the frame - it is still a miserable thing.

>Fucks your back
>No room for everything
>One compartment for everything
>Heavy for its 35L capacity
>Frame does nothing, except creak against the back straps, which provide no comfort, just frustration

I mean, I guess it's not too bad for a day pack - but again, the frame should be of use when carrying heavier weights, but it's not, and is completely arbitrary for smaller weights, just adds weights.

The ALICE pack was a massive improvement over this - that's saying a lot.

>>808383
Because it seems half of /out/ is comprised of role playing kids that don't actually go out enough to realize milsurp gear is shit 95% of the time.

>>808427
I got my ALICE pack because it was cheap (35 euros). Had to go olive/woodland as it actually is my service backpack - and has to endure being thrown in/out of the trucks we ride in, have people pile theirs on top of it, and sometimes sit on it.

>Is it light?
No.
>Is it comfy?
If the straps don't twist, if the waist belt doesn't get caught on the flak jacket or chest rig, if the chest strap hasn't slid down to the waist strap where I can't reach it with the pack on. Then still mostly no.
>Why do I use it?
Because I've already spent like 700 euros on gear the government hasn't provided me with in an adequate fashion. Got a MOLLE II in the mail now, hopefully that will be an improvement.

Whenever I see those brand-spanking-new chest rigs on /k/ or the neat-and-tidy out of the box gear on /out/ I always wonder. After a single weekend of field exercises none of my new gear looks like that anymore. The conclusions are not flattering.

>>808457
Not sure if you're arguing with me or against me.
Back when I started hiking I used to use plenty of milsurp equipment back from my army days.
High quality gear is quite a financial commitment. Nothing wrong with using it.

But statements like these: >>806214

>The estwing is new but I love this pack with a passion.

No one that ***uses*** milsurp loves it.

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>>808463
With you, mate. A crucial part of using military equipment is hating most of it in one way or another. Might have something to do with the physical strain you use it under - but I have issues with almost everything I use. When given half a chance, I upgrade to something lighter, more ergonomic and easier to use.

Picture to prove I know what I'm saying about those Swedish """rucksacks""". Here's the two I was issued - and my ALICE pack, which I at least somewhat hate.

>>808463
I enjoy the pack. It's not an osprey or anything but it's mine and I enjoy it. I'm not sure why that's such an impossible concept but believe what you will. Doesn't really bother me.

>>808476
You bet your ass it's not an Osprey.

It's a shitty Swedish milsurp pack with a useless frame, no waist belt, and no compartmentalization.

From the looks of it, you've never even used it for any extended period of time, or carried any weight in it. I liked mine too, before I began using it.

If you carry the bare minimum - sleeping system, spare change of clothes, water and spare boots, it already becomes unbearable.

>>808482
Like I said, believe what you wil.

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>>793802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAtzN_ScKXY

>>808487
I believe you proclaim love for a bit of gear that is objectively shit - because you've never used it.

>>801834
Looks neat, but pretty feminine.

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Kelty Eagle 128 liter pack

>>800723
the fuck is that

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>>807291
Ya still here fucking waiting on you anon...

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>>807291
Ya headed out this morning tell me how I don't innawoods please.

>>809080
you're going to post a pic of you outdoors when you come back, right?

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brand new abisko 65, love the front access

>>809080
>>801834
What happened to the mug?

>>809125
Ironically he got mugged and the mug was stolen.

>>809080
What's the quality of that cap like?

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>>809080
>>802639
>>802640
>>801834
>>805070

this has got to be the most elaborate troll ever. Or home boy really has some fun lessons to learn out there.

>I haven't chopped down that many trees yet
>pulls the pack together nicely

>the way you attach that axe attachment be like...
>paracord bracelet attached to pack (?) at best your a try hard, at worst you actually bought that to unravel it.
>always changing the pristine little fag caps
>unused pack meant for school
>unused mug(why?) and the pinterest fake mug
>unused axe "chopped down trees with it" KAK

I'm sure you can fit "ten days" worth of food in there, along with sleeping gear, shelter, rain gear, spare socks, first aid and water. Going out with that is about as "manly" as it gets, if we're viewing masculinity in terms of the shit you own.

>don't forget ya axe buddy!

Seriously though, I may be a stranger yelling at you over the internet, but just don't die out there sempai. You'll probly be able to figure your way through a night or two with that silly set up albeit uncomfortably and probably taking chances you didn't know you were taking. Just take lots of water, bring an extra emergency blanket or sweater and always have a back up plan. Definitely let as many people possible know where you're going and for how long with as much detail as possible.

Godspeed.

>>809254
Cheer up - we'll have a fresh news article to shitpost about.

>>793802
>no sling on the AK
Nah m8 you don;t carry that.

>>801834
lmao those command hooks only hold like 5 pounds

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>>809084
You obsessed with me huh

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>>809125
>>809134
Mug is packed up cause I don't like the clanking when I go solo, hat is great quality super breathable

>>809254
I put food in a drybag because I canoe you fag you have some shit to learn if you think fjallraven is just school bags

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Mine is on the right

>>809343
Finally back on topic

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>>809343
What did you climb?
That rope really doesn't look good enough to take a dynamic fall, hope I'm wrong.

Also, what kind of sleeping bag is it? looks huge, or just uncompressed?

>>809337
>posts a pic with a paved path a spit distance away.
Did you go to the zoo?

>>809341
This has nothing to do with fjallraven as a brand. But the design of the school bag you bought.

>>804547
Don't underestimate the asspain and ignorance of eurofags and/or australians, etc. Remember the only guns they've ever seen are on movies and TV.

>>809374
Climbed the Indian Fort Lookout trail at the Pinnacles in Berea, KY. Bag is a 10°F mummy, uncompressed. The rope is just to hang our tarps and bags up, just general utility.

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what type of pack is this? looking for something similar if not the same thing

>>809714
thats a MOLLE vest with bags strapped to it

Is a sleeping bag a must or could I get away with wool blankets for overnight camping?

First time hicking, im missing only a tent and then i will go traveling to the south of Chile.

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>>809760

>>809760
>>809761
wait, first time hiking and you need a helmet and ice axe?

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My favorite thing about these people posting rifles with bags they are all /in/

>>809773
You are correct, these cave dwellers how fucking dare they enjoy the outdoors without taking selfies 24/7 or such as your picture so they can place on facebook/twitter to brag and feel accomplished

Yeah fuck those who enjoy the outdoors without being a $15 coffee drinking hipster that takes a picture of every step (and make sure to include just enough of their Danner red lace boots included in the pictures before they put an instagram filter on it no doubt)

We get it, you might have been outdoors once and are just projecting your fear

What is wrong with you all, get pictures of the outdoors ASAP; make sure you include your gear so you can prove to the anonymous people on this Vietnamese trading card board that you are so much better than the rest of them because you went on a 500meter walk and have pictures to verify

What the fuck am I doing with my life, I should have been taking pictures of my gear outdoors this whole time

>>809080
w2c hat or similar hat?

>>809412
>Climbed the Indian Fort Lookout trail at the Pinnacles in Berea

Sounds like fun.

>The rope is just to hang our tarps and bags up, just general utility.

Makes much more sense... hahaha I guess to a hammer everything is a nail.

>>809798
>they just dont feel like photographing their adventures ever
Trust us, its not like that. Although yours is the more comfy idea, it strays from the truth

>>809820

>w2c that masculinity

rofl son. if it's in hats, axes or bags you won't.

swedish swedish,
all i need is one dish
my mug, that is, you see?
I try hard to impress,
and cry "more is less"
but its always into the wind that I pee.

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>in b4 poorfag
yes, I am poor

>>809714
>>809721

That's the "lower back pain" from 5.11 tactical

>>809994

wtf is that excuse for a sheath on the hatchet? Is that a bandana??

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eh. If you've never even used your gear, don't bother posting it.

>>809879
>>they just dont feel like photographing their adventures ever
where did he say that

>>810022
>that center of gravity
oh boy i pity the poor sod who has to hike with that

>>810022
Are you able to stand up with a straight back with that setup? or are you constantly hunched over?
Looks uncomfortable as hell.

>>809820
http://www.roots.com/us/en/take-it-easy-baseball-cap

>>809879
>us

>>809980
Kill yourself desu
>>810451
Thanks senpai

>>809994
I like the setup but what's with the dual carry?

Are you in bear country?

Also: what bag do you use?

>>810024
they are briefs

PSA: the word "gun" is nowhere in the sentence "what does your backpack look like?". Refrain from posting your guns unless they're INSIDE or at least ATTACHED to the pack.

>>810765
GUNS ARE SCARY!!!!!!

>>810779
he makes a decent point though. guns have just as much use out as a dildo. some people need it for their /out/ activities and some don't, but if i spammed every photo i post of my dedicated /out/ gear with my dildo in the shot it would get tiresome and be, arguably, off-topic

>>802640
nice axe

>>810785
Unless you use the dildo while out... Then it's relevant. Like people posting naked wives next to their pack. Any takers?

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>>810785
>needing anything more than an EDCorndog

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>>809866
It is pretty fun!

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>MY PACK WEIGHS 3.2KG COMPLETELY EMPTY

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I just reconfigured my pack last week for a recent outing
fuck why didn't I take a good pic?
Kelty btw

>>809714
Molle vest with bags
by all means distribute all the weight directly on your L-spine

>>811027
Christ.
post a pic

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>>811096
It's a Kelty Falcon 66L.

I took the hood off to save 0.45kg.

Total weight including food and water for two overnights is 16.5kg

Military bags are memes.

I'm looking to upgrade to a 80l pack, but that is 2.9kg. It has a better harness though.

>>811100
I have a Kelty Coyote 80. Sure it's a little heavy but its comfy and I can fit all my gear for a week in it no issues.

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>>811133
>>811100
My bag weighs more than yours, while being less comfortable and having less space.

Military packs are meme garbage.

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did the mug hipster went innawoods and died?

>>810838
> naked /out/ wives

I estimate 3/10 are even passable.

That said, I'd let 8/10 suck my cock.

>>812559
Rofl. You didn't see the pictures of his trip to zoo?

>>798126
Where do you people get those patches?

>>812847
However, we have no further information what happened to the mug. This both concerns and infuriates me.

The aluminum supports in a backpack are supposed to be rigid right?

You're not supposed to bend them?

Or are they supposed to be bent to match your back?

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>>813256
they're not sposta be bent to match your back, anon

I saw someone suggest a while back that a gp5 gas mask bag is good for holding kindling like birch bark shavings sounds pretty neet to me

>>799381
pics in this format give me a boner.

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>>813271
they are pretty neat bags. but for holding kindling, why not just tie it into a faggot? and if its birch bark, why not have a big enough tinderbox so you can pack some birch bark in it? thats what i do atleast

pic related, gp5 bag set up as ultra small daytrip + camera bag

but, i guess if you can find one of the bags without a gasmask or just sell the mask unless you want it, go for it i guess

>>799381
>all this flawless never used gear

My fucking cellphone case looks like it has spent more time outside than any of this gear.

>>803302
>>803173
Hey anon not sure if you're still around but if I wanted to get into designing backpacks, where do I start?

>>809335
backyard.jpg

>>804548
5.11 boots are pretty comfy though m8

Haven't been /out/ with them, but I'd imagine they'd do just fine here in Illinois.

>>802064

It was pretty simple. I could post photos if anyone is interested.

>>814768
some people take good care of their things and some people think dirt and filth make them men
i bet your bed sheets also look like they've been outside more than anon's pack too

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>>809773
I've got a photo of the one time I took my shotgun along for a multi day hike.

Nowadays I don't take a rifle along because I typically am not hunting while I hike, and I fucking hated dragging that heavy piece of shit along. I used to walk long distances with a rifle for a living and I forgot how much I had hated it

>>809714
that looks like a molle plate carrier with some australian ampliflage rain slicks... just get a plate vest or a something and throw a bunch of shit on it.....

>>812873
kommandostore

>>816922
>Leaning your firearm against a wall

That's a paddlin.

>>795179
I got the Atmos 65. So bomb.

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>>816263
I'm here for you buddy :)
The first step to starting is getting inspiration. Look around for packs that you like, but aren't super complicated. For a long time, I was obsessed with Duluth packs and I would just browse around and look for designs to essentially copy.

>>803173
this pack was made with a ton of inspiration from the bushcrafter pack, and this >>803302 pack was based off the roll top scout.

Templates would have been nice, but they don't exist, so just look at the dimensions of the pack listed in descriptions and base the main bucket off that, then add everything based off what looks right. You learn a ton as you go, don't be afraid to jump into a project without a complete plan. My first pack was a complete mess, but I learned a lot making it.

It is possible to make packs with cheap modern sewing machines, but you'll have to use very lightweight materials. If you don't already have a sewing machine, ask your mom, grandma, gf, etc.

I HIGHLY recommend actually using a high power machine though. I found a perfect condition singer 15-91 on craigslist for $80 that can sew several layers of leather. These vintage machines are very powerful and can be found for very cheap. look around craigslist.

For materials I mostly work with canvas, and I really like http://www.bigduckcanvas.com/ I reccomend not going below 12 oz for packs. I mostly use 18 oz.

http://www.rockywoods.com/ is great for general materials you need like webbing, buckles etc.

In short get a sewing machine, some fabric, thread, and literally just fuck around, it's the best way to learn.

>>817863
>>816263
Not the backpack anon but I do some MYOG myself. If you're looking for more modern materials for a good price, ripstopbytheroll.com is a good source.

>>817863
>>817883
Thank you!

>>793832
fucking americans decked out like theyre heading to iraq for a trip to the local lake

>>799389
>microfibre towel
Why not use linen? It dries faster and doesn't smell like ass after one use like synthetic stuff does.

>>803173
Looks great

>>818326
Yeah fuck those Americans, they should allow trucks to run them all over and get a life/bin that knife.

How dare they believe/uphold their constitution and enjoy their freedom/rights!

I too throw temper tantrums when I see scary black military a salt rifuls with heat seeking baby killer boolits and HIGH CAPACITY CLIPS; WILL SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!?!?!!!!

>>809400
>asspain and ignorance
it truly pains me so much that i dont have to carry unnecessary shit
all you little insecure faggots who think they need an ar and a glock while out so the boogeyman doesnt get them holy shit

>>809994
>a handgun with three magazines
top keke my man do you think the bear will involve you in a prolonged firefight?
all you gunfags are literal jokes

>>818363
look friend i know you easily get scared when someone mentions muh secund amendmunt but if people point out the obvious uselessness of carrying a rifle and handgun all becausee youre such a cool guy who needs muh protetcion from all the scary scary outdoors stuff, theres no need to get that upset. Ive got nothing against firearms i just think taking two camping is useless and unjustifiable. But sure keep getting triggered easily butthurt amerifat kiddo

>>807352
I'm that anon but I'm struggling to know what your asking lol

>>810765
I'm guessing your the mod that banned me for posting my bag and Arsenal AKM. OK! /out/ I will try to not post my rifle unless it is inside of another bag. People say that Axe's have no purpose in the wilderness unless your up north, one could argue that a rifle is about the same (ol grizz) bear made is nice but it doesn't help with food procurement. FYI an axe is a weapon as much is a rifle

>>818399
The rifle is for hogs and bears (welcome to Florida) and the pistol is for the fucking rainbow tribe in mah Ocala national forest. Ask anyone about the rainbow family and you'll hear about the punk scum that follows them

>>818422
*bear MACE, damn autocorrect

>>818422
>>818426
Stop being logical, the people that complain about rifles being so scary and unnecessary live in lies. People like yourself and others take what precautions are necessary for activities.

Noguns will always be afraid of haveguns, the loud noise and strong recoil of a .22LR is enough to break their feminine Soymilk bones.

I know too many noguns that have panic attacks if someone mentions a firearm in any method. Too many times I hear, "IS THAT LEGAL? OMG IS THAT ILLEGAL????"

Firearm in question was 28" barrel 12 gauge shotgun, REMOVING pistol grip for Elmer Fudd stock. Somehow in retard minds that means illegal, not the reverse however but going from pistol grip to standard wood stock somehow is seen as "illegal".

If that does not tell you how uninformed/ignorant/afraid noguns are, then maybe these cunts can enlighten us on how ignorant they are as well as WHY? My father did not teach me how to shoot and I did not end up a faggot like the rest of these fucks.

>>802119
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>>818399
>lol at amerifat kiddo, do they ever come up with original comments

>>818363
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>>818396
gentlemen, let us not quarrel amongst ourselves and get back to the task at hand- ridiculing the mug hipster.

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>>818439
I'll post pictures of how close I get to nature from my camera from just yesterday. Did I shoot my gunz? No. Did I keep them on hand? Hell yes, I've waded thru water with gators close before and felt fine. I'm not some internet try hard but I have a right to be there as much as any animal. So why should I avoid an area or crossing completely because of my reptilian friends. (Oc gator pics inbound friends)

>>818441
K, KEEP ME POSTED