Can /o/ recommend me a small hatchet?

>>785183
pic is awesome. If you're looking for something similar for a smaller price check out hultafors.

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Fiskars X7 I have one and I Love it.
Haters gonna hate but it really is a fine hatchet.

>>785183
I personally have the blackticool estwing ebdba. I like it.
>one piece forged steel
>double bit (has its own pros and cons)
>rubber grip

Husqvarna 13 in. Curved Handle Hatchet. It's a hatchet, does hatchet things, and isn't $100.

>>785188
>>785199
>having a hatchet without a wooden handle
Do you like breaking your wrist?

>>785255
Or 'Sportman s Hatchet'. Highly rated little hatchet with a $30 price point. Not sure why OP pic related is $80-$100. Seems way too high for a simple hatchet.

>>785260
legacy shit

>>785183
>Can /o/ recommend me a small hatchet?
i dunno why a board about cars would know about hatchets but go ahead and ask

Why not make your own for free?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN-34JfUrHY

>>785259
Can you explain how the material of a hatchet handle would cause someone to break their wrist?

>>785316
>strike a knot in a log the wrong way
>one thing breaks: the handle or your wrist
A wooden handle is weaker than your wrist, and will break, releasing the energy that could hurt you. A metal handle will carry the energy into the weakest part of your arm and shatter it.

Wanna know how I know?

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OP keep an eye out for vintage hatchets. They're dirt cheap and are easy to restore into something that ends up better that you'd have to buy premade for $40

worst case scenario all you need is a mustard file to sharpen, small bottle of white vinegar to remove rust, and a log that you can cut down and sand into a handle. Easy peasy.

this thing cost me $15 and two hours work and its literally the best axe

>>785259
lol where did you get that? x7 is perfectly fine handle is short no vibrations.
>>785188
frankly best one for the price value.

>>785344
You sound like a skeletor pussy.

>>785344
noo... wtf man?
you strike a knot here is the two things that happen:
1) you cut right thru that shit as i have more than once
2) your axe gets stuck a bit

>>785405
You've never seen a wooden handle break?

OK, lad.

>>785412
i use fiskars and it never broke
i'm trying hard to remember any wooden handle i saw broken irl but can't.
my father had tools that were 50 yo and they didn't break.

>>785442
Are you incredibly weak?

>>785344
I dunno what your deal is, but anecdotal evidence such as yours is easily countered by anecdotal evidence of my own: I've felled, chopped and split trees with hand tools for about 25 years (not every day, just every time I process wood) and I've never broken a handle or my wrist. I've had my ebdba for a couple years and used it to process wood for dozens of fires, as well as a couple basic structures; my wrists are fine, and I've hit a few knots. Worst that happened was the hatchet jumped sideways when I was chopping in the dark, didn't bite me though. I don't need to ask how you know what you "know" -- it's obvious: you were doing it wrong.

>>785459
>I've never broken a handle or my wrist
Yeah, and I cut wood toward my belly because I've never cut my gut open yet.

>>785304
That dude is surprisingly jacked for what I expected.

>>785292
The sportsman's hatchet or OP pic?

>>785450
most likely i'm stronger than almost everyone here

>>785459
this!

that dude obviously don't know how to cut wood or use an axe in general if he exerts any serious force on the handle when it impacts.

the fuck seriously boggles my mind.

>>785344
Only if you have anime powers.

>>785484
lol, ok m8

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>>785188
I got the same but didn't like the sheath so made my own.

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>>785498
Also, you can't see it in the first pic, but carved the leather too

>>785499
Noice. Why did you pick that design?

>>785260
Not a bad little axe, will last you a long time.

>>785344
Senpai maybe try drinking milk once in your life and weighing more than 80 pounds.

How did you break your wrist swinging a hatchet?

>>785580
my guess would be hitting your other wrist with the shaft or back is the only way to go about it

>>785344
Are you retarded?
Only reason to chose wood over other handle types is that it helps cut down on impact force and vibrations felt in the hands.

>A wooden handle is weaker than your wrist
I doubt that is true for a well made hardwood handle with the proper grain alignment.
Bones are strong, but wood is surprisingly strong too when used right.

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>ITT

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Vaughan, Estwing, or bust I says

>>785502
Figured the beaver spirit would be a good choice for an axe considering it's use. Plus I'm Canadian

>>785792
Too heavy.

>>785188
I can confirm this is a god tier hatchet

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the Hultafors mini is a surprisingly capable super small axe

would recommend

>>785183
I own a Gransfors Bruk mini axe, and prefer to process sticks/tinder with a 4" tactial fixed blade knife.

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Wranglerstar recommends Marble's axe if you want something cheap and good, it's only $25.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM_EoTTcdJE

http://www.marblesknives.com

Smoky Mountain Knife Works is their only retail seller.

https://www.smkw.com/marble-s-camp-axe

Marble's also makes single and double bit hatchets, but they're out of stock on the SMKW website. Their regular camp axe looks to be about the size of a hatchet anyway.

https://www.smkw.com/marble-s-single-bit-hatchet

https://www.smkw.com/marble-s-double-bit-hatchet

>>785793
Should have carved a leaf senpai

>>785994
What do you need all those axes for?

>>786186
This is what I use.

Got it for $15 on amazon.

>>785499
>>785498
That's awesome

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>>786187
fun, work, novelty.

variety is the spice of life as they say, they all have different characteristics,

but theese 3 are my main "woods" axes, i need to buy myself a felling axe, not that i need one really, but i want one

>>786220
Nice looking tools.

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>>786224
thanks man, axes really are my favorite /out/ tool,
i know its blasphemy but sometimes i really feel
axe > knife

>>786236
I'm with you 100%

I appreciate your tools of choice-- that's what I bring, too.

>>786253
its a great trio, im probably gonna look for a saw where you hand is perpendicular to the sawblade insted of in line with it, might indulge in building a buck saw. ..

anyone here know what kind of blade the Gransfors Bruks kubben has? from pictures on google. it looks the same as basicly all their other axes but im not sure

>>786236

I got that same folding saw. That thing is a fucking buzz saw. Best thing I ever bought.

Personally I don't know why you guys carry axes. I just have a Ontario RTAK II fixed blade knife strapped to my belt. Big ass knife that rides very comfortably.

I tend to do most of my cooking over a stove when I'm backpacking. When I do make fires its more for recreation than anything. So I don't really see why I'd carry an axe.

Maybe if I had to make 3 campfires a day for a group of 3-5 people, maybe then I'd consider packing a dedicated tool for it. But as I see it my knife + saw combo can do everything an axe can.

>>786312
well. i guess its because people on out do different things, i dont like to hike for distance, i like to arrive at a spot and then stay there for 3-4 or more days,

more base camp sort of thing, yea if i was hiking from place to place every day i probably wouldnt bring an axe, the Hultafors mini maybe, but certainly not a full size axe or hatchet,
different strokes for different folks.

if you are going to build a more lastin camp an axe is invaluable, also, an axe is a wonderful demolition tool, so you´ve build you lean-to with raised bed tied togehter with spruce root, all that delicout faggoty-bushcraft shit. now with the axe just chop that shit down my man

>>785344
>Wanna know how I know?
I know that you are a limp wristed faggot. Wanna know how I know?

How heavy in grams should a hatchet be? Is 300 grams OK or is it too light? Is bigger axe more safe?

>>786854
or he is the negro from the Unbreakeable (2000)

>>786878
fiskars x7 is 600g i think and perfectly serviceable
bigger axe is not safer imo that's a meme but with bigger axe bigger work is more efficient no doubt about that.

>>785345
>mustard file
da fuh?

>>786911
>>>785345
>>mustard file
>da fuh?
Shit meant bastard file

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>>785187
Yeah, I haven't used a Hultafors as such but I own an older HB and I can't see why they would have changed that much.

>>786896
A bigger axe can be safer, it is easy to put a short hatchet into your thigh or knee if you fuck up your swing.
But, like everything else it depends more on proper technique then anything else.

>>787029
>>786896
I lookd a bit into it and apparently saw is a lot safer. would it be practical to carry around 53 cm long bow saw around with you? is that a smart idea?

>>787044
Look into foldable saws, not the little 30cm ones used for garden pruning but foldable bow saws.
Also lighter than a full size axe and much more efficient.

>>786940
that makes more sense

it would have been a terrible waste of good mustard

>>787044
i carry a 35cm bow saw but i'm thinking of getting a 50 cm, preferably fiskars/bahco just because of the brand name

>>787029
>it is easy to put a short hatchet into your thigh or knee
meh this meme again, i say bullshit you must be retarded or a woman to do that

>>787162
You have never had a swing glance of what you are chopping?
Ok then, guess you are either the terminator of wood chopping or you don't really do much of it.

>>787177
i did some i mean i don't do it for a living.
but most of my hatchet work is in a position and angle it's impossible to stick it in my anything.
when it's not then i use more caution every strike is planned and if anything shitty happens like a glancing blow you let go of the hatchet and it will not hit you it will hit the ground.

>>787187
Ah, good.
Never mind then, thought you were one of those "i split firewood once so i know what im doing" experts that you see on youtube or here on /out/ once in a while who really have no idea what they are doing.

I agree proper technique will save you from 90% of all axe related injuries.

>>787192
also you can choke up on a hatchet better than an axe especially a larger axe and do fine work safer. i often just push the axe through the wood i want to split instead of chopping.
the critical part is when you whack the wood with the axe, here is how you do it wrong:
https://youtu.be/-_41mG-Mops?t=1m16s

how i do it is i choke up on the axe head real good and do it standing up not sitting like an idiot so i have perfect control over the sharp steel and use small controlled whacks to start the split then take my hand away and then whack and push through holding the wood from top behind the bit.

>>787233
Yeah i saw that video too, i just can't believe how anyone can be so stupid.
I mean she already had enough wood split and the fire was already burning good.
I guess exhaustion and lack of food must have been a big factor ut damn that's a retarded way to lose the competition.

>>787247
if she simply batoned the hatchet this wouldn't have happened. it's an other thing i like to do, very good precision work very safe.

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You could try the Knives of Alaska Brown Bear cleaver.

It is beastly rugged, and the D2 steel holds the edge insanely well despite using it as a hatchet to split wood and bone, and it can be use to skin and process game. It's a bit on the pricey side but once you use one you'll never regret it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNr2Ev3ch-w

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>>787233

Pic related, this technique is safe and would have kept her in the game.

>>785183

Bro, you need to dump that rust bucket and get either the '12 12" Subaru Hakker or an '82 10" Toyota Slyce. If you plan on keeping that rolling turd then at least replace the handle with carbon fiber so you can reduce the overall weight.

>>787891
I already drive a slicer civic.

>>785188
best lightweight hatchet - i use mine at work every day. they're like $30 at canadian tire and never need to be sharpened

>>787365
this post was me anon >>787297
you really don't need to tell me.

>>785345
How do I find them, yard sales?

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Are pic related any good?

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>>785183
/o/

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heres an awesome little hatchet
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/162095512838?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true

How do you find someone to put a handle on an axe? Or are you better off doing it yourself?

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>>790584
Dude it's fun! You can do it yourself, it's not hard.

You can either buy a handle online or carve one yourself as a custom fit.

The actual handling is just a knife to carve the handle top to fit the eye, then a thin saw to cut out a slit that a wood wedge can be driven into to secure it hard.

You have lots of options to improve the axe, like linseed oil to give extra security in the head wedge but there's no real need to buy any of them if you do a good job getting a good fit with the rehandling.

>>790617
So I carve the handle so it just fits into the head, then I hammer it in, and then wedge it?

>>790617
minimal effort:
>use angle grinder with abrasive disk to get the rough shape formed
>use sandpaper to get a fine finish
>use linseed to impregnate the wood
>let that shit dry it's toxic and can be absorbed through skin
>once dry you can assemble your axe

>>786186

They were impossible to find for about six months. Then, starting at the beginning of the year, they started trickling back in, but much more expensive. Since then I'm seeing on Amazon a lot of negative reviews. It seems like they switched to a cheaper overseas manufacturer to meet demand and so quality has gone downhill.

Has anyone gotten one of these in the past few months? Are they still great?

>>790629
Don't listen to >>790617 or >>790974 which are both retarded hillbilly ways of doing it. Reference this axe manual put out by the USFS here: http://www.fs.fed.us/t-d/pubs/pdfpubs/pdf99232823/pdf99232823Pdpi300.pdf

Buy a handle and use a rasp, not an angle grinder.

https://youtu.be/_3J5wkJFJzE?t=308

Is this why a carpenter is called an axeman in Finnish?

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Bear grylls survival hatchet

/thread

>>792593
angle grinder can do the same job in fact most blacksmith i know uses it for rough shape.
takes minutes to get the shit done.
nothing wrong with it.

>>785183
>Can /o/ recommend me a small hatchet?

Yes!, get a small hatchet anon, they are very handy.

>>786236
>>786312
can you fellows or anyone that recognizes the saw say the brand or name? I've been looking into a hand saw as well but I just have no idea who to trust or what to look for in one. Thanks in advance.

>>793359
lel

>>793702
I think I just found it... BAHCO Laplander Folding Saw, 8-Inch Blade, maybe?

>>793682
What can a hatchet do that a knife can't?

Oh, right, it's nothing.

>>793728
...chop?

>>793728
>>793735
Hammer in pegs and wedges
2/10 made me reply

>>793728
it can hatchet things as opposed to knife them

>>793822

uhh and why can't you use your knife as a hammer? I use my khukri all the time as a hammer.

>>794162
isn't the stated advantage of a khukri that it's a knife that has the shape and thickness to be able to function like a hatchet?

I know you thought it's advantage was looking mean and sounding foreign

>>793355
that was satisfying to watch

>>794168
not quite. a hatchet is still heavier and thicker than a khukri.

Any knife over 4'' can be reasonably used as a hammer. Saying you can't use a knife as a hammer is retarded, anything with a bit of weight can be used as a hammer...

>>794168
it's more like something in between.

when it comes to processing a lot of wood a kukri will outperform knife, a hatchet will outperform a kukri, an axe will outperform a hatchet basically.

but for certain tasks you are better off with the lesser item.

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Why the fuck would anyone craft a hatchet like pic related, Germans no less, and why do I want it?

>>794162
Because the average 200gm knife is as useful for hammering as a hammer is for cutting, I'd be better off hitting the pegs with my hand.

>I use my khukri all the time as a hammer.
>a hatchet is still heavier and thicker than a khukri.
My Kukri and Hatchet weigh within 10gm of each other. Claiming a knife is useful as a hammer by citing the use of a Kukri as such isn't much of an argument anon, less than 1% of the worlds knife population weighs as much as the average kukri.

>>789111
My brother has an axe like that. Its lived its whole life on the ground in the backyard. Almost rust free, only a handful of nicks in the edge. Absolute zero care given to it, just like all the knives/axes my brother owns.

>>785792
I have a little eastwing that has served me well, it's a little heavy but I feel comfortable knowing I can build a shelter and make a fire anywhere with wood.

>>793725
yes

>>794946
cause it looks interesting

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>>794946
they say it's much easier to make a new handle for it. also you can vary your axe head weights or use the same bit with a longer or shorter shaft if you want.

seems a bit overthought to me. traditional exes served mankind well enough.

>>785793
That's a pretty cool reason. You seem pretty based.

>>786236
>>786312
>>793702
>>793725
Can confirm. Have a laplander, I could cut down a fucking tree with it with enough will and leisure time.

>>786186
Does /out/ like Wranglerstar? He seems like the kind of guy that really knows his shit but is also really egotistical about it. I don't know if it's just his tone or what but at the same time he seems like a decent guy.

>>795758

I trust his opinion more than nutnfancy.

>>795765
To be fair, do you trust nutnfancy on ANYTHING?

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>>795768

I used to when i was a dumb teenager 6 years ago.

https://youtu.be/D8k_SbSPlqo?t=5m21s
The Nitecore D20 didn't perform nearly as well as he claimed. The piston actuation system was flimsy and it would turn off if shaken. It would get really hot after being on for just 2 minutes. The multi-mode brightness "feature" was annoying to use with a non-clicking button. And the pocket clip was held on by tiny screws that were easily stripped if tightened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbs69ial0j8
Then i got the Leatherman Supertool 300. It was rugged, but i couldn't access the knife without first opening up the tool. A Chinese counterfeit Swiss Army Knife turned out to have better ergonomics for daily use than that thing.

I know i was stupid for buying overpriced shit. Thankfully i learned my lesson and sold both on ebay and only lost about $10. I haven't watched any of his videos since then.

Wranglerstar, Survival Lilly, and Matthias Wandel are the only reviewers i trust now.

>>795768

I'd trust him to know how to make a decent donut, maybe even coffee after SHTF.

>>794946
Putting a new handle on that thing would be easy as pie.

>>795758
I loved watching his stuff at first but now I only watch the odd thing now and then, he goes on to long talking about pointless shit, and the way he fucking goes on and on about how everything was so much better in the old days gets on my fucking nerves now, I mean it took him 14 fucking videos to make and put up a mail box, Jimmy DiResta would have knocked that shit out in one.... and it would have been more informative too!!

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This is what I use, kind of a meme tool but I got it on clearance for a screaming deal and besides the saw handle being a little small I haven't found a reason to dislike it yet.

>>785188
honestly I've had one of these going on 5 years and it's fine. It has a particularly hard edge though which means it can chip but also doesn't need to be sharpened too often. It's also fairly cheap. The only kind I wouldn't buy is one of those solid metal hatchets.